1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: The families of the victims of the park Land shooting massacre, 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: enraged when the mass killer, Nicholas Cruise does not get 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: the death penalty, speaking out begging for justice. To top 4 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: it all off, to add insult to injury. Now the 5 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: court of shame in the last hours, Nicholas Cruise's lawyer 6 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: investigated for flipping the bird in court, right in front 7 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: of the victims families. I mean, Nancy Grace, this is 8 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at 9 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Fox Station and Serious X one eleven. That's right, Tamera Curtis, 10 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: one of the lead lawyers in the fleet of attorneys 11 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: defending mass shooter Nicholas Cruise, was actually recorded shooting a 12 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: bird in court. Listen. A member of Parkland school shooter 13 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: Nicholas Cruz's defense counsel is under investigation by the Florida 14 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: State Bar tomorrow. Cruz was caught on camera during a 15 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: pre trial recess hearing where she appears to flash a 16 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: bird at the court. In footage, Curtis appears to catch 17 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: the sight of a courtroom camera and waves. She makes 18 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: an inaudible comment to a woman sitting next to her. 19 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: That woman seems to suggest the gesture flashing a brief 20 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: middle finger herself while looking at Curtis. Curtis then raises 21 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: her middle finger, looking at the camera, placing it flat 22 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: against her cheek, then rubs it up and down her cheek. 23 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Curtis is laughing and sitting beside a smirking Nicholas Cruise. 24 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: What prompted the gesture isn't known, but Ed Guttenberg, the 25 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: father of fourteen year old victim Jamie Gutenberg, has said 26 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: that the attorney has been frustrated by how the judge 27 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: was responding to her courtroom arguments. Little is known about 28 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: when the investigation began, but an investigation has indeed been 29 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: confirmed by the Florida State Bar. Now, the last time 30 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: I've actually seen that happen was when Jodi Arias, who 31 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: was convicted of murdering her lover, Travis Alexander, twenty nine 32 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: stabs we think. I think there were thirty plus a 33 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: shot to the head, left to decompose in a damp shower. 34 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: She shot a bird at me that Arizona courtroom. But 35 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: an attorney is held to a higher standard than a killer, 36 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: a convicted killer. An attorney, as the officer of the court, 37 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: you are bound to at least try to always do 38 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: the right thing. Now, let me jog your memory. Nicholas 39 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: Cruz murdered seventeen people and injured seventeen more when he 40 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: went on a shooting a rampage at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas 41 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: High in Parkland, Florida. Parents raw with emotion, furious other 42 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: family members. Not only does Nicholas Cruz escape the death 43 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: penalty after mass and murder of children, his lawyer is 44 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: shooting birds in court. Family members call it disgusting and 45 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: also slammed her for being so chummy with the man 46 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: who murdered high schoolers. Why because she is recorded on 47 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: camera joking and laughing in court. Listened to Fred Guttenberg, 48 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: the father of a fourteen year old victims the defense 49 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: to be in defense attorney in a situation like this, 50 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: I get it, you have a job, but it doesn't 51 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: mean you need to lose your humanity towards the victims, 52 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: which they did, okay, and they their inability to ever 53 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: for a second, either in the courtroom or outside of 54 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: the courtroom, have a human moment with us, a civil 55 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: moment was despicable. Looking at attorney Tamerack Curtis take her 56 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: middle finger and rub it up and down her cheek 57 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: once she lost an argument in the courtroom, and then 58 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: to start laughing with the killer over it like an immature, 59 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: punk child. I will never ever ever forgive that moment. 60 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: But that's who they were. So I will tell you 61 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: the state did its job. Now, remember, will you try 62 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: a murder case? The jury and everyone in the courtroom says, 63 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: on display the dead bodies of the victims, possibly autopsy photos, 64 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: bloody cloth recordings of parents screaming trying to find their 65 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: children that day, everyone running around the high school trying 66 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: to figure out what had happened, and these two are 67 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: yucking it up in court. And then to top it 68 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: all off, Tamra Curtis, an officer of the court on 69 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: the defense team, shoots a bird. Now, the defense team 70 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: actually complained they were being unfairly attacked by the victims families. 71 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: That prompted the judge, Thank Heavens got a smart judge, 72 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: Judge Elizabeth Sherer, to defend the victims families. What you 73 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: are doing right now is highlighting something and making more 74 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: of a spectacle. So if your office in general does 75 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: not want to facilitate any or incite violence, then we 76 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: need to just sit down and move on. That's it. 77 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: There were eighteen witnesses. Sixteen or eighteen witnesses are testified today. 78 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: There was nothing that was said until miss McNeil made 79 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: her point me and you know we're moving on to 80 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: anything about stains. When these people are upset about specific 81 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: things that have gone on from that table, like shooting 82 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 1: the middle finger up at this court and laughing and joking, 83 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: Miss McNeil, be quiet. When these people have set in 84 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: this courtroom and watched this behavior from that table and 85 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: they want to say that they're not happy about it. 86 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: What is the problem. How did the jury end up 87 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: letting this guy who murdered so many children escape the 88 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: death penalty? The jury said it could not unanimously agree 89 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: Chris should be executed, and that's kind of a default 90 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: in our law. Let you win by default. If they 91 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: can't agree on the death penalty, it defaults to life 92 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: behind bars again. I mean, I see, Grace, this is 93 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here at Flex 94 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Nation in serious XM one eleven. How did the whole 95 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: thing begin? My thigh is in filming Dogess High School. 96 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: He said he heard noises in top and he thinks 97 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: there they're shooting going on at the school. Police. Okay, 98 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: we do have police on senninee. What is your emergency? 99 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: I think I hear gunshots? When is the ads S? 100 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm at the in parkmoud O Isisles. 101 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's over Tooyage of High School or 102 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: George Douglas underbring gunshots maybe fifteen minutes ago. So then 103 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: I just heard four or five right in a row 104 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: just a few minutes ago. Let you don't want to 105 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: hear a nine one one call about gunshots near a 106 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: high school. Listen nine one one? What is your emergency? More? 107 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: Such a sting, Douglas, So we're shooting up the school 108 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: at I'm sorry, I can't hear you. What's happening? So 109 00:07:54,440 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: one is doing wood Hello, Hello, Hello, A couple of 110 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: high schools is being shot up? Are you at the school? 111 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: I can't hear you. Are you at the school? To 112 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: NIM one one call or trying to whisper into the 113 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: phone that the school is being shot up and then 114 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: hangs up, joining me an all star panel. At first, 115 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: I want to go to David Vae, crime reporter in Miami. 116 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Harold David, thank you for being with us. Why was 117 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: the nine one caller whispering? Well, the name one one 118 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: caller was whispering because there was a shooter inside that 119 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: was shooting up the school. And of course, you know, 120 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: and just like we saw a new bal day in 121 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: other places where we have people who are desperately calling 122 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: NIM one one from inside the premises on these school shootings. 123 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: So that nine one caller is actually inside Marjorie's time 124 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: and while trying to call nine one one, and he's 125 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: trying to whisper so the shooter doesn't see him. He's 126 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: trying to not attract the shooter's attention. Yes, and you know, 127 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: this was obviously a huge stunning event for a lot 128 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 1: of the students that were there. So there was a 129 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: lot of confusion about where where the shooter was, where, 130 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: um you know what, when help was coming, whether you know, 131 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: whether there was more than one shooter right, So there 132 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: was a lot of confusion, So that's why they hence 133 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: the whispering. Take a listen now to our friends at ABC. 134 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: At two of the afternoon, gunshots ring out in the 135 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: South Borda High school, Terrified students hiding in classrooms during 136 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: the gunman's rampage. Oh my god. The shooter reportedly first 137 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: pulled a fire alarm to get more students out of 138 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the classroom, maximizing potential victims. As soon as the fire 139 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: joke got pulled, the firelarm got pulled and kids were evacuating. 140 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: I heard five pops. He was just very focused, going 141 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: to focused on what he was doing. Let's yeah. I 142 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: was in the classroom and all of our air was shocked, 143 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh my gosh, I'll tapmaning 144 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: and we're just sitting on the floor and we're just 145 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: panicking crime stories with Nancy Grace. How did the jury 146 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: end up letting this guy who murdered so many children 147 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: escape the death penalty? The jury said it could not 148 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: unanimously agree Cruise should be executed, and that's kind of 149 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: a default in our law. Let you win by default. 150 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: If they can't agree on the death penalty, it defaults 151 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: to life behind bars. Take a listen to our friends 152 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: at ABC, Ladies and gentlemen, it's my understanding that you 153 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: have reached a verdict in this case. Nicholas Cruz spared 154 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: the death penalty. A Florida jury instead recommending the Parkland 155 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: gunman spend the rest of his life in prison without 156 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: the possibility of parole. One by one, the judge reading 157 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: the jury sentencing recommendation for each of the seventeen victims, 158 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: many of the families angry and stunned, some walking out. 159 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: But it says to me, what it says to my family, 160 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: what it says to the other families, is that his 161 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: life meant more than the seventeen that were murdered. The 162 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: jury's foreman says three voted against it. Prosecutors argued Cruz 163 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: was a sociopath and that the massacre was premeditated. In 164 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: the end, the defense appears to have convinced at least 165 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: some jurors that Cruz was mentally ill after his mother's 166 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: drug abuse and drinking while pregnant. The evidence this jury 167 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: hearn in this court heard, and the spectator's hearn is 168 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: just beyond your worst nightmares. Speaking of the evidence, our 169 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: friends at ABC the juries, seeing graphic security footage showing 170 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: victims shot multiple times at point blank range, fucking Oliver 171 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: also shot in the head. Did fucking get justice today? No? 172 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: He did not. He did not. The only one who 173 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: got the way to get out of this was the 174 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: defendant dening Julia five. I have the gunshot victor. I 175 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: have the gunshot victim by the by the entrance the 176 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: west glade on the west side of the school, or 177 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: acting out a pipe. And what I am we don't know. 178 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: I am the thirteen building. Building thirteen will form a 179 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: copper entergy? Did anybody have both? Card? I can get this, 180 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: get out of the friend. He's fucking a friend. I 181 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: eat both with me now. Michelle, Michelle did Meyer, who 182 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: was barricaded trying to save her own life inside the school. Michelle, 183 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: what happened? So we are in class, there was about 184 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes left in school, and the fire's alarm 185 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: went off and we're all thinking, like, what is happening 186 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: because we had a fire drill earlier today And in 187 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: my class, like the students are trying to convince my 188 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: teacher that we don't have to go because schools ending students, 189 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: but she said, no, it's an emergency, we have to go. 190 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: And if that student didn't try and convince my teacher, 191 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: I probably would have ran towards the area where the 192 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 1: shooter was because that's where my evacuation zone is. But 193 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: since there was a little later, there's a security guard 194 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: downstairs telling us to run the other way. At that moment, 195 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: I still thought it was a fire drill, so I 196 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: then atoms the red gates at them. Our assistant principal 197 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: told me to come back inside and go in the auditorium, 198 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: and as I'm walking in, my aunt calls me because 199 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: my uncle is an emergency personnel, so he knew the 200 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: news right away, and they let me know what was happening. 201 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: Every single person around me, including the teachers, thought it 202 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: was an active shooter drill because they were told we 203 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: were going to have one soon, just so we kind 204 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: of know what to do in that situation. And I 205 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: was the only person there who knew that it was 206 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: not a drill, and I how to tell everybody know, 207 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: like let everybody know to like tell their family members 208 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: they love them, because there is a shooter. It's real. 209 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: And in a minute, Michelle, so you find out because 210 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: you have a relative in law enforcement or emergency personnel, 211 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: and you start telling everybody, guys, this is real, what 212 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: was happening around you, what was everybody doing, and saying 213 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: everybody was just like acting calm, like it wasn't serious. 214 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Then they were telling everybody, like even the teachers were saying, 215 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: like it's just a drill, like remaining calm, And I 216 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: had to tell a teacher, I'm like, it's not real. 217 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: My aunt just called me and let me know what 218 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: was happening, and you know, we just need to stop 219 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: speaking and get down and like quiet so that way 220 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't know that we're in here. And I it 221 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: broke my heart having to tell all these people that 222 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: it was on campus, like I was the one who 223 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: had to do it, and I just just sat there 224 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: on the auditor and splore shaking for the whole entire 225 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: two hours that I was there. When did you hear? 226 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: What could you hear? In the background, there was a 227 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: security guard in our room, so he was like giving 228 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: us updates about what's happening, and like there's just a 229 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: bunch of cops outside and they would come in and 230 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: scream at us to get down because some students weren't, 231 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: and then cops came in to search behind the stage. 232 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: And it was just all very scary of everything that 233 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: was happening. So you were lying, you were lying on 234 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: the floor. How were you barricaded? Yeah, like we were 235 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: in between the seats of the auditorium on the floor. 236 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: Take a listen sound of the shooting. Joining me right now, 237 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: John Limley, Crime Stories, investigative reporter, John. What do we 238 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: know about the shooter? Nicholas Cruise? He had been expelled 239 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: from Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School, which is a small 240 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: little city about an hour north of Miami. For months. 241 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: Students teachers had been told that if he was to 242 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: enter the campus, step foot on the campus, especially with 243 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: a backpack, that students teachers were to immediately alert security 244 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: because he had been posting for quite some time, especially 245 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram, photos of this arsenal of weapons he had 246 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: at seventeen, these posts about how he was going to 247 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: take down law enforcement, how he was going to shoot 248 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: up the school, and as we now know, that is 249 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: exactly what he did. I don't understand this how everybody 250 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: at school knew about a teen boy having an arsenal 251 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: and posting about shooting up the school, but the parents 252 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: didn't know. And another thing I don't understand, Joining me 253 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: is Wendy Patrick, California Prosecutor. If the school knew about it, 254 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: how come the parents didn't know about it? You know, 255 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: what if I had a gun in this house, it 256 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: would be out in the trash jump pronto. How did 257 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: they not know about it? If the school knew about it? 258 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: And another thing, Wendy Patrick, when you post photos and 259 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: threats about blowing up the school, that is what we 260 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: call in the law a terroristic threat, and that is 261 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: a felony. Why was this kid just walking free making 262 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: all these threats? Wendy. Yeah. One of the things Nancy, 263 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: you and I know from our careers is it is 264 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: tricky when you talk about how to analyze things that 265 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: are posted online and distinguishing between free speech that is 266 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: completely offensive and crime threatening crime, something that's actionable, something 267 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: that can be acted upon. You know. The problem One 268 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: of the problems I should say with cases like this is, 269 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: first of all, we have to assume people saw what 270 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: was being posted online, because, let's face it, that's wait 271 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: a minute, wait, wait wait, Wendy, we just heard that 272 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: from Limley that the school was already on alert if 273 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: they saw the guy come on campus, So they knew, right, 274 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: But that's only the first step. Secondly, they've got to 275 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: analyze whether or not it's something they can go arrest 276 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: somebody for. So it sounds like it's stalled with the 277 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: first step. People saw this, they knew about it, they 278 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: knew that he was a threat, and they actually worked administratively. 279 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: The question now is was there sufficient evidence? And we're 280 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: now seeing it, We're going to be seeing more of 281 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: it to actually decide, well, this is something we can 282 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: charge criminally and then we'll be able to arrest him, 283 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: we can get restraining order. So it seems like it's 284 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: stalled between steps one and did it? And when I 285 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: hear stall, that's the worst thing you want to hear 286 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: with me is Michelle Ditmeyer, who actually a team girl 287 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: who had to barricade herself to Michelle Ditmyer also joining 288 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: me her friend Sarah Derby. Michelle, did you know this 289 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: guy or know of him? I have seen him around 290 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: school before, but he got expelled before I was in 291 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: the school for a long amount of time. But everybody 292 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: like at the school would call him and like just 293 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: kind of knew he was free being psychotic, I mean, 294 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: mass kill or Nicholas Cruise does not get the death penalty. 295 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: To top it all off, to add insult to injury. Now, 296 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: in the last hours, Nicholas Cruz's lawyer investigated for flipping 297 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: the bird in court. She should have been held in 298 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: contempt immediately. How did he get to that? Why wasn't 299 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: she held in contempt? Now she's being investigated by the 300 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: Florida Bar. I don't know what they're going to do 301 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: with her. One father, Fred Guttenberg, the father of a 302 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: fourteen year old victim, Jamie Guttenberg, says he will never 303 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: ever forgive the moment that attorney Curtis laughed with Cruz 304 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: in court, laughing, likening her behavior to quote an immature 305 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: punk child. Another parent of a victim accused Cruiz's defense 306 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: team of quote losing their humanity toward the victims last month. 307 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's so painful in court. I mean, I've 308 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: been there so many times. It's so painful what the victims' 309 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: families are going through. I know I went through it 310 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: myself in court as the family of a loved one 311 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: that had been murdered. You're raw, you're upset, can't think straight. 312 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: And then deceive the defense attorneys shooting birds seemingly at 313 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: the victim's family and then laughing about it like Beavis 314 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: and butthead. It's so painful in court. Listen on the 315 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 1: day of the medical examra of visits where they discussed Jamie. 316 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: I need you all to know because this who gets 317 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: back to the word indoor, what we endure that while 318 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: I was sitting there, I was having chest paints and 319 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: shortness of breath. And you want to know, I didn't 320 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: say a word because I didn't want to hear you 321 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: called to the judge because it happened in front of 322 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: the jury and asked for a mistrial if I sat 323 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: there with chest paints and the second the public I'm sorry. 324 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: The second the medical exam or finished talking about my daughter, 325 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: my wife immediately got me out of the rule and 326 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: I ended up with weeks of testing from a cardiologist 327 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: and thankfully I am okay of a broken heart. But 328 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: I am okay. You don't know me, but you tried 329 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: to kill me. I will have a scar on my 330 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: arm and the memory of you quainting your gun at 331 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: me ingrained in my brain forever. The Florida Supreme Court 332 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: should look at the law that was changed in twenty 333 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: sixteen that allows the minority rule in the case of 334 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: a death sentence verdict. If killing seventeen innocent people and 335 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: wounding seventeen more does not warrant the death penalty, and 336 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: what possibly does I hope you're ever breathing moment here 337 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: on earth is miserable and you repent for your sins. 338 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: Nicholas and burning Hell. Christopher Brent Hickson was an extraordinary man. 339 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: He was a father, He was a husband, He was 340 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: a son, a brother, an uncle, a cousin, a godfather, 341 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: and friend so many. He was stolen from us by 342 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: an unimaginable act that you plans and executed. You stole 343 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: him from us, and you did not receive the justice 344 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: that you deserved. The evidence this jury heard, in this court, 345 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: heard the spectators heard, is just beyond your worst nightmares. 346 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: We understand that a math teacher, Jim Guard, who taught crews, says, quote, 347 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: we were told he was not allowed on campus with 348 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: a backpack. There were problems with him threatening students. He 349 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: was asked to leave campus. Apparently he had been suspended. 350 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, other students claim quote, I knew it was 351 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: going to be him. To dodger Bethany Marshall, LA psychoanalysts 352 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: joining us. You know, I've had so many victims say 353 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: I knew this was going to happen. I talked about 354 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: it We knew this was going to happen. Everybody knew, Bethany, 355 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: I find it very difficult to believe this guy was 356 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: not already behind bars. I don't care if he's just 357 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: a team. All of these school shooters, in fact, math 358 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: shooters in general, always break about it to somebody. They 359 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: write a letter, they post online, they have pictures of 360 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: themselves on Instagram and Facebook. They their own crimes. So 361 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: these do not come from out of the blue. It's 362 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: very easy to tell who is going to become a 363 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: mass shooter because they do not keep it to themselves. 364 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: Even though often there are loaners. They do share their 365 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: thoughts and so the idea that somebody just snaps, or 366 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden they just go crazy 367 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: and grab a bunch of guns is not a very 368 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: sound way to think about all of this. They contemplate 369 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: it unconsciously and consciously for months, if not years. Look, 370 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm not looking for anybody to blame. That's not what 371 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm about. I'm trying to figure out why this happened, 372 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: what could have been done to prevent it so it 373 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: won't happen again. And to me, they're all the signs. 374 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: Vincent Hill Priba, an investigator joining me. I mean online, 375 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: this guy shared photos of him brutal animals. He literally 376 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: had posted on Instagram pictures of animals he killed gruesomely. 377 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: He physically assaulted other students, and from what I'm understanding, 378 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: Vincent made threats on the school. I mean, when you 379 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: tell a kid you can't come on the school with 380 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: a backpack, it's because you think they've got a gun 381 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: in it. Yeah. Absolutely, Nancy, and I think Wendy touched 382 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: on this. You have to question what you can make 383 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: a rest for what you can investigate on social media 384 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: because people live bicariously through social media. But I think 385 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: there's a much bigger issue that no one's touching on. Yes, 386 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: the school was unnoticed. Yes the school said he can't 387 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: come on with the backpack. But you're talking about a 388 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: very large structure that holds about thirty two hundred people. 389 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: With two school resource officers, that is a lot of 390 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: ground to cover, a lot of bodies to watch to 391 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: try to prevent one person from getting onto that school. 392 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: So we need to start talking about how do we 393 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: secure our schools or to prevent this, or if it 394 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: does start to happen, how do we make it go 395 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: away a lot faster, you know, and more oafuly with 396 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: less lives taken. Also with me, in addition to Michelle Dittmyer, 397 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: who had to barricade herself in the school as the 398 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: shots rang out, is Sarah Derby her friend Michelle, What 399 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: was going through your mind as you're in there barricaded, 400 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: knowing there's a shooter stalking the campus opening fire right 401 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: right at that moment, right, my mind was blank. I 402 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: just was thinking about all my family members. I was 403 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: trying to not let my grandma in New York know, 404 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: but the news reached there. I just I didn't want 405 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: my family members to worry about me, even though they would, 406 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: And honestly, that's all I was thinking about with all 407 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: the people outside of that school, that I might never 408 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: see you again. Can you even imagine the desperate parents 409 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: of these students still in lockdown, rushing to the scene 410 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: to find out if your child is one that was 411 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: shot dead. I can barely even put words to it. 412 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: Sarah Derby, what is your recollection of what happened? Dear 413 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: to like disgusted it. I was driving home and we 414 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: got a call and I said, someone, there's been a 415 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: shooting at Stoneman. So I automatically get on the phone 416 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: to call Michelle because we've been texting five minutes before 417 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: any of this happened, like we've been we were in 418 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: contact all day. And she didn't answer, and I was like, Okay, 419 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: maybe her phone's dead because the phone's never charged. I 420 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: was going through these things and I called by the 421 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: phone Samantha, and she said, no, this is this is real, 422 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: this is happening. And my first instinct was truly like 423 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: I started like had booking at home, Like I was like, 424 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: I have to get home. I have to get home, 425 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: like this is I have to do something. And it's 426 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: just like this hottest feeling of like both like discussed 427 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: and just like anger that like someone like I knows 428 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: multip people, I know this clothes, how to deal with 429 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: something that, like you said, who senior year is not 430 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: going to be the same. That's why I thought it 431 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: was like now who Sheenias just to close someone that 432 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: she survived in that shooting, which should never have happened. 433 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace seventeen dead when a teen 434 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: boy opens fire with a semi automatic rifle at a Parkland, 435 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: Florida high school, fourteen others wounded. The teen boy, Nicholas Cruise, 436 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: concealed himself in a crowd fleeing Marjorie Stone and Douglas 437 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: High School. He clearly had planned this, even wearing a 438 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: gas mask to cover his face when he went in. 439 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: Can you imagine your child sitting at school looking up 440 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: and seeing a man with a gas mask covering his 441 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: face wielding a semi automatic weapon. He took uber to campus. 442 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: That's how we know how he got there. Seventeen dead, 443 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: fourteen wounded for this guy wielding an a R fifteen 444 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: semi automatic. On YouTube, he says, I'm going to be 445 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: a professional school shooter. I'm going to be a professional 446 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: school shooter. Insult heaped on injury. That's what we have here. 447 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: Not only does Nicholas Cruz escape the death penalty after 448 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: mass and murder of children, his lawyer is shooting birds 449 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: in court. Family members call it disgusting and also slammed 450 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: her for being so chummy with the man who murdered 451 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: high schoolers. Why because she has recorded on camera joking 452 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: and laughing in court. These families dealing with the loss 453 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: of their children and others now have to have Nicholas 454 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: Cruz's lawyer, Shooter Bird in court. Really after hearing painful 455 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: testimony and the graphic nature of that testimony, Nancy started 456 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: on day one, take a listen to this from our 457 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: friends at WPBF. Prosecutors opened this trial by promising the 458 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: jury they would show Nicholas Cruz planned this attack, wanted 459 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: to kill students, quoting Cruise from a video Cruise made 460 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: three days before the massacre, Oh my name is Nick. 461 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to be the next school shooter of two 462 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: and eighteen. The jury then heard from three witnesses, a 463 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: teacher and two students. All were in three different classrooms 464 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: when crews opened fire. I heard what I described is 465 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: just allow this noise. You could possibly imagine. We were 466 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: just sitting kind of like sitting ducks. We had no 467 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: way to protect ourselves, no way to stand up for ourselves. Eventually, 468 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: the shooters started shooting through the window and boots were 469 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: flying through. Almost instantly, I called nine one one, just 470 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: out of instinct. They couldn't hear me over the sound 471 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: of the gunshots. I looked over and to be bored dead. 472 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: And most of the people were shot. But the most 473 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: emotional part of the day came when prosecutors played two 474 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: videos of the shooting, the most graphic parts where you 475 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: hear gunshots and hear students screaming and calling for help. 476 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: During that part, many family members were sobbing in the gallery. 477 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: A few had to walk out. Crews sat with his 478 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: head in his hands as he watched and listened to 479 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: himself shoot thirty four people, killing seventeen. Among other things 480 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: that jurors heard was testimony about how Nicholas Crews pulled 481 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: the fire alarm to send students out into the hallway 482 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: and his firing. David Kat's CEO of Global Security Group, 483 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: what does that mean to you, David? Well, you know, 484 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of things that we just mentioned too. 485 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: There's one of the things going back to the same 486 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: room multiple times that happened to Vision to Tech, so 487 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: that's not uncommon. The you know, a bunch of things 488 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: that that stand out. Number one, as a former student, 489 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: he knew how to gain access to the building. Number two, 490 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: he knew that by pulling the fire along, he knew 491 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: exactly the response. Number Three, he knew that there is 492 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: a protocol in place that probably he was able to 493 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: exploit because of his knowledge of their procedures and able 494 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: to and able to gain access to potential victims before 495 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: they could react. You know, there's a there's a bunch 496 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: of things that that I mean here in New York City, 497 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: for example, the NYPD to Fire Department, they've mandated actor 498 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: shooter response and high rise buildings in in public assembly 499 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: venues and hotels. In addition, there are school mandates and 500 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: everything that we teach, every bit of the curriculum is 501 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: exactly diametrically opposed to what was done in this case. 502 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: To John Limley, I'm reading about all the acts of heroism. 503 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: One coach dies trying to save other people. One math teacher, 504 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: a Miss Shanty Viswanaphone known as Miss V to her students. 505 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: When she heard a second fire alarm that day, she 506 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 1: knew something was wrong. They had had a fire drill 507 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: earlier that morning. Instead of letting her students out of algebra, 508 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: she made them all get down on the floor in 509 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: the corner of the room, put paper over the windows 510 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: so nobody could see in. She wouldn't even let the 511 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: swat team in. John, they had to come in through 512 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: the windows because she would not let them in. She 513 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: didn't know for sure it was a swat team for 514 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: real John exactly and another teacher, Scott Bigel, a geography teacher, 515 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: was killed as he was trying to usher students back 516 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: into his classroom when the shooting broke out. One of 517 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: the students told CNN that he was shot outside the 518 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: classroom door, right after he locked all of the students in. 519 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: It's stories like this that make all of this all 520 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: the more heartbreaking. Killer Nicholas Cruz does not get the 521 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: death penalty. Insult heaped on injury. That's what we have here, 522 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: with evidence like what that jury heard, what spectators heard, 523 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: what the court heard. How can a veteran defense attorney, 524 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: lawyer Tamer Curtis shoot a bird? How can they sit 525 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: there and laugh as court is. It's it's just so callous, 526 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: so disheartening to see a member of the bar carry 527 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: on like this. It's so painful. The families of the 528 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: victims of the park Land shooting massacre enraged when the 529 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: mass killer, Nicholas Cruise does not get the death penalty. 530 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at NBC. I thought 531 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: that the devil did not assist until death. Puddh us 532 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 1: in front in this all day the pain poured out. 533 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: You are a revolting entity. Parents, family members, survivors, speaking 534 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: without restrictions on time or subject directly to the man 535 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: who killed their loved ones. I wish no peace for you. 536 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: I wish nothing but pain. I am disappointed and disgusted 537 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: with the verdict that was handed to you. You do 538 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: not deserve the best case scenario. The deadliest mass shooting 539 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: in US history to reach trial ended without a death 540 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: penalty verdict because there wasn't a unanimous decision, as Florida requires. 541 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: My brother Chris, on February fourteenth, died a hero. You, however, 542 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: you will die as nothing because you are nothing. Ultimately, 543 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: those here left with one simple feeling, emptiness. I am groken. 544 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: I am broken, and I am broken. Some parents using 545 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: the time to lambast the defense, which they say misrepresented 546 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: the killer's lack of access to mental healthcare. This individual 547 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: didn't fall off the grid. He was the grid. He 548 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: was getting every service that they offered that total hundreds 549 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: of hours of therapy. Salt poured in the wound. These families, 550 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: dealing with the loss of their children and others, now 551 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: have to have Nicholas Cruz's lawyer, Shooter Bird in court 552 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: really The defense action of seeming to throw a middle 553 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: finger at the court had parents reacting, including Manuel Oliver, 554 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: father a victim, Joaquin Oliver. Four times you blew his head. 555 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: He's marvelous brain and ideas and dreams to destroy them. 556 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: Shut him four times you needed any or fifteen to 557 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: do that, because soliwise quinbu have been in this of you, 558 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: so you were a coward enough and you can't be 559 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: cowards in his life, hiding your actions at the middle 560 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: finger day apologizing put a middle finger. You need to 561 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: be learned how to do a middle finger, so you 562 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: don't need to apologize to anyone. At this point, Oliver 563 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: can be seen giving his own demonstration of flipping the bird. 564 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: If this lawyer is not remprimanded or thrown out of 565 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: the bar entirely, it will be a travesty at a 566 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: moment like this and these victims family's lives, to see 567 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: her shooting a bird and yucking it up in court 568 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: with the killer is just beyond the panel. We wait 569 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace grim Story signing off Goodbye friend,