WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc and Ocho react to Shedeur Sanders practicing with the backups and not the starters 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:02.080 The volume. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.079 As the Cleveland Brown quarterback competition progresses into mandatory mini camps, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.360 Shador Sanders has often found themselves practicing with the backups 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:28.360 while team other passes Placo Picket and Dylan Gabriel have 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.920 received first team reps. Shador said he's unbothered by practice 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.320 reps instead of looking to take advantage of every opportunity 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:34.559 to give. 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.880 Life is just based on how you view different things. 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.720 So you can view things if you're not getting reps 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.800 in a negative way, or you can view it as Okay, 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:44.279 it's my time to get out there. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.760 Let's be proactive and let's get warm. Let's get going. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.800 So there's no excuses because when you get out there, 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.360 nobody cares how many reps you got whenever you got 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.200 in the game. Nobody cares if you took a snap before. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.560 Everybody cares about production. So that's the main thing. When 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.840 you get out out there, you got to be able 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.880 to produce. Oh Joe, see I love this response. See 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.240 now you got me questioning whether or not he was 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.040 unprepared when he came to those meetings. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:12.759 I think y'all tried to salt that man up. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.840 I've only heard responses like this all the press conference. 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:18.280 Yeah he had. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:19.600 I mean when he was in college, you know, he 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.440 was a little facetious at times. But I did never 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:29.800 I never got the inclination that he was unprepared. If 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:33.080 the one thing that he was going to be, it's prepared. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.440 His father prepared him. He understands his dad. Although he 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.480 didn't play quarterback, he understood what comes along with playing 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:41.479 the quarterback. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.080 Right. I just I love the way he's answered the 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:46.279 answered that question. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:48.360 He's answering the questions perfectly. 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.480 And the funny thing about it that you know I 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.440 got I got a couple of young bulls out there. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.800 You know I told the Denzel Award. You know I 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.600 told some but let me sham I say the name. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.840 But anyway, I didn't talk to some people. He looked 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.160 there's a difference when that young buller is out there 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.120 spinning that ball. Yeah me difference I'm talking about. I'm 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.000 talking about football. I ain't talking about no media and 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.360 all that, all that hoopla and all them you know 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.639 on Twitter, they putting up the numbers something people ten 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.919 for twelve or two touchdown. I'm talking about when he's 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.280 at the Ham. He looks different. Whether he's going with 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.320 the first team, second team or third team. It don't matter. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.360 You know, I understand getting drafted in the fifth round, 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.760 all that means nothing. When it's time to play football 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.119 and that whistle blows, he looks different than the rest 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.760 of the competition. That's that's what I heard. And I'm 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.120 talking about I'm talking from from from a not brother water. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.520 I'm just talking about from sources that's in that room, 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.200 that's on that field, that's playing the sport. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:43.560 Man. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.120 Come on, man, I just say something that I can 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.080 relate to. Yeah, you can't relate to this. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.160 You a second round draft pick, so you was probably 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.240 at worst case scenario was running with the second the 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.480 two's as soon as you stepped foot in the camp, 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.160 it's somebody. But it's somebody that was a seventh round 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.200 draft pick in that was with the third, fourth, fifteen, 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.280 the last guy to get a rep. Some days, Oh, 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.800 yoll I get one rep? What I get one rep? 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.760 That's all I got? Yes, that's it? Oh that's it? 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.760 Or I would have cut up. Well you got me, man. 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:17.240 I just I just remember having a conversation with my brother. 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:18.800 My brother would tell me and say, man, how it's 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.480 going I susplained, man, I ain't man, they ain't gonna dang. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:23.920 I got like one rep. I got like two reps. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.399 I didn't even get in today. He said, don't worry 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.480 about that. He said, one day, John Elwig gonna call 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.200 on you. Yes, sir, just make sure when he called 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.800 on you, you answer. Just make sure you're supposed you 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.000 where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be there. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.440 That's all they told me. He said, A man, they 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.520 messing over you. He never said, hey, you know what 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.880 you can do. Now, you're gonna get your opportunity. It's 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:51.480 gonna come. Yeah, and when it comes, swo. I was 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.800 with the threes swollen, but surely I was with the two's. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.880 Hey now all of a sudden, hey, shark, get in there. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:06.600 I'm in the slot, but I'm running with the ones. Okay, yeah, okay, 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.680 So make the team mainly special teams. But you know, hey, 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.200 they called it want somebody if we ran them all 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.920 a bunch. So you know, I'm big receiver. I'm blocking, 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.360 you know, hey, it didn't matter. I'm blocking forcher Ronnie Lott, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.440 you know, Eddie Anderson, all them big time, big time hitters. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.880 But that's the only thing that my brother told me. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.560 He didn't tell me they messing over me. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:27.120 He didn't say. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.040 All he said is like, you know what, John there, 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.400 We're gonna call your number one day. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.120 Just make sure your answer. And I was like, you know, 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:35.840 I would go, I would go ask John, man, what 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:36.720 can I do better? 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:36.880 Man? 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.240 I just I just want to be I just want 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:39.880 to be like when you when you call them, I 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.760 want to be there. He's like, hey, just. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.880 Make sure you get your head around, make sure you 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.440 get your depth on your routes, blah blah blah. You 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.839 know we run certain drills. He's like, hey, I like that. 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:54.200 I like that effort slowly but surely, so if I 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.400 could give I can't give you no advice how to 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:00.960 play the quarterback position, but I say just keep doing that. Yeah, 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.440 just keep just keep doing what you're doing. That's all 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.520 you gotta do. And people like, man, you always turned 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.400 it in. I said, No, What I try to do 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.320 is that in situations, what Ocho or now we try 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.320 to do is that if we've been in those situations before, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.560 we can tell you how we handle it. We can 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.080 get go inside because you're talking to people that was 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.400 in the huddle, not somebody I didn't cover the game. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.120 I cover the game now, But you're talking about somebody 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.440 that was in the huddle. Know what it's like on 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.520 fourth and three. That's know what it's like when it's 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.159 first in gold and you're down six. So I ain't 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:34.680 tell you what somebody told me to say. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.880 I'm telling you through firsthand knowledge. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:41.080 Yeah, first hand knowledge, being in the locker room, being 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:46.679 in those meeting rooms. I love what your door said. 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:50.159 I love the way he's handling it. I don't know 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.080 when that time is gonna come on, yo. Yeah, because 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.559 the man say you don't know when I'm coming. He said, 0:05:55.600 --> 0:06:01.039 you better make sure you be right when I return. Sure, 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.520 Door doesn't know when the opportunity will present itself. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:09.160 He gonna be ready. Hey, I want to get back 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:10.200 to this one rep man. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.440 Now that that's that stuck with me out of everything 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:16.359 you never said, because but they about to raise Hell. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.120 Oh Joe, I'm a seventh a round draft pick. I'm 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.040 a body Oh ship, Okay, my bad ain't no. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:21.360 Yeah. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:22.720 If I was the first round draft pick and I 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.960 ain't getting but one REP or second round draft pick yet, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.280 I will I will have some issues too. But I'm 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:32.279 a seventh round draft pick. And you know the thing 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.640 is with me, I played well, I played, I played. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:36.679 I was the Z receiver. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:37.680 Yeah. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.640 So now you know, oh Joe, you coming to the rookie. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:44.760 You see you slot you X they throw you in 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.920 a couple of players the type role. Can I learn? 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.240 Let me learn one thing? Right, come on now, let 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.520 me let me let me. I'm trying to write cursive 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.480 and you try to get me to do triggonometry. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:07:00.000 Huh man, one rep, two reps? Show, that's all. I 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.440 we out there for two hours. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:04.200 You know. 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:08.400 He everybody else getting called to get in there. Hey, 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.200 turn to get in there. Johnson, get in there, y'all 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:15.080 get in there. Everybody get in there. Last play Sharp, 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.720 get in that disease man, listen. Huh, let me tell 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.640 you something. Let me take that back. It was called 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:24.680 It was not called to Z. It was called the wing. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.480 Right sharp, you at the wing? 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:35.240 Hey, huh, you gotta think. And twos man TJ was 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.800 on here with us. Remember he told you, Yeah, I 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.000 take I was taking scout. I'm talking about two thousand 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.280 and five, two thousand and six. I'm talking about my 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:48.480 whole career. I ran our place, and I ran scout team, right, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.600 I'm I would purposely the gun on special teams. I 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.480 would purposely go on special teams just to keep myself 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:59.440 running through the whole practice. And I purposely took the 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.680 scout team whoever the number one receiver based on who 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.000 we're playing. Let's say we're playing the jag you know, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.640 we're playing the Jags. I'm Jimmy Smith on the scout team, 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.400 and I'm taking every rep because now I get to 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.920 work with the number one dB on our team and 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.560 gave him good work so he'd be ready for Jimmy 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.800 or keeping Keeny mccarr there on. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.200 Sunday yep, And I'm man Marvin and. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.000 You Jackson would have to pull me the f out 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:24.680 of practice. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.680 But you know, training camp, it ain't really no scout team. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.800 It's one versus one one. Yes, you don't get you 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.920 don't really get to the scout team until like that 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:39.000 first preseason game because now, okay, offense, you going against 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:43.560 the twos, uh, defense going against the two offense, things 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.360 like that. And then obviously when you get to the 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.520 regular season, the scout team you know, go to get 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:51.560 given that. So yeah, now once once the regular season 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.439 came Yeah, I was, I was that's me. I follow 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.280 the ball right. Whoever had been that best receiver? It 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:03.640 was Tim Brown. I'm Tim Brown, I'm him Brown, Old 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.760 Timmy Man. Rod Smith came in. He said, Man, he 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.480 was walking right across from mind, and he every day 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:14.920 he absorbed everything of everybody that was another offense that 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.599 I've ever been around. Rod Smith probably was probably my 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.000 greatest student because he absorbed everything. He said, Man, I 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:22.880 just want to said, he said, Man, I want I 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.400 want that. I said, what you what he said, Man, 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:29.040 the way crowd cheer you, the way everybody respects you. 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.840 He said, I want that. I said, tell you what, when. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.800 The scout team come, whoever the best receiver is, you 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:35.640 get that jersey. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.080 I don't care if your ex, I don't care if 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:38.400 you'r Z. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.480 You get that jersey, and you go out there when 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.120 they say hey, man's look, you bust their ass. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:46.880 I like that question. Man. 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.800 The first time Fudds got in the game, we played 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:57.920 Washington Endeavor three by one. We down hold React He's 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.200 an ex receiver. They put it into a side by 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.600 him filth by hisself. He got Darren Green matched up 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.480 on it. John throw in the football. He jump over 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.120 with Drren Green and catch it. We win the game. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:17.240 Oh right, lady, Yeah, yeah, I talked to fust Of 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.920 all the time. Yeah, yeah, we ate him. You know, 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.880 I still it's a few guys I stay in touch 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.960 with a lot. Obviously, Burns, I talked to the house 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.640 who's about backup tight end Chock Eye with another backup 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:28.480 tight end Foots. 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:30.520 But you know, it's a few guys I still keep 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:30.880 in touch with. 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.719 Yeah, but that's what I tell guys, and a lot 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.800 of you know, they say there are a conspiracy theory 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.680 circling that Cleveland trying to force the early piace. Yeah, 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:44.600 they're gonna do everything they possibly can because they draft. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.160 They don't want to look bad. Oh Joe, if I. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.040 Draft Gilan Gabriel, how did I drafted shru Door and 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.160 your door out playing? But they we looked bad. If 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.240 he gets in there, I signed the Knny Pickett as 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.800 a free agent. If he gets in there, he out 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.280 played for Borns Kenny Picktt. That makes me look bad. 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:05.560 So I'm going through give these guys every opportunity to 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:10.240 succeed because I don't want you all to make me 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.640 look bad. So you can say, oh yeah, we didn't 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.280 have this grade on him. The matter the grade, because 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:17.720 at the end of the day, you gotta play. You 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.680 can give that guy a plus or B whatever the 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.720 case may be. But when we get in there, yeah, 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:23.480 something got. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:29.800 To give, all right, but him some good days Bay. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:33.719 Oh yeah, oh yes, but I love I love the 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.640 way your door answered the question. It's like, look, first team, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.560 secondeen thirteen, when they call my name, I'll be ready 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.280 because they're don't nobody care, didn't nobody care the a 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.199 all the tight ends got hurt, and they putting a 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.040 seventh round draft pick in there from Savanna State. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:50.160 Any nobody care, no about that. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.880 All the song was number eighty one, sharp man, that's 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.559 Sterling's brother. I wonder if he's as good as his brother. Hell, 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.160 if I was, they better had to take it. They 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:58.560 took me to the seventh round, and I'm just as 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.480 good as my brother. Somebody do some poor a scouting, 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.640 But I thought I was. Oh Joe, you couldn't tell 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.520 that I wasn't as good as my brother. I'm on 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.400 all his records. I did everything that he did, everything 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.960 he did now, but he more physically like I was 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:15.760 more talented. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:20.679 Right. He was a harder worker. Right. So once I 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.840 got to college, I was like, man, sh. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:31.240 I'm like, man, scouts say't really come because he was 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.600 telling me, Man, we had all the scouts from every 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.040 team I think the title of like twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:38.760 Every scout was here today. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.840 Oh yeah, y'all having scouts Like now we have no 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:42.640 scouts down here. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.079 So I know the opportunity. 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.160 So I got to I got to do something to 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:52.800 make the scouts come, right, that's it should do. 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:54.960 Or keep doing what you're doing, bro, I love it. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.839 I know you're not your your dad dealing with a 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:03.480 little some health problems right now, but you've gone through 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.720 it versus before when you did Jackson State and your 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.960 dad had that had those blood clots. You built for this. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:15.000 You are absolutely one thousand percent built for this. Head up, 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.600 prayed up, Stay up. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:29.000 So o. Joe Pooka Lakoua is an ig name. 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.160 Pooka is dead because his mom discovered that he had 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.800 Instagram in the eighth grade and changed the name. My 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.400 mom eighth grade. In my eighth grade year, didn't know 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.160 I had Instagram. My mom found my Instagram, my gin 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.199 changed it. She made it Pooker is dead to let 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:50.840 me know I was in trouble. What is the most 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.520 memorable time you got caught, Ojoe. 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:55.640 Oh Man, Listen. 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.839 Honestly, I don't know if I told the story and 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.240 the most memberable time I got caught if it had 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.160 nothing to do with obviously, back then I was, I 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.040 was young, is man. I had to nerve my grandma 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.480 and my grandfather. They done went to church, and I 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.240 had the nerve to pull that goddamn car. I had 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.560 the nerve to pull one of their cars out the driveway. 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.000 You know, we had an old steel fence back in 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.160 the day, the old steel fence that just that slide back. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.560 Yeah, let it open and. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:23.520 Put the car reverse. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.680 I'll never forget it was a five hundred five hundred 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.000 bins but it was Diesel. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.920 Oh yeah, okay, okay, old school. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.160 I done pulled the goddamn car out the driveway backwards, 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.240 and don't know how to drive, and don't know how 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.200 to differentiate how far I am from the rift, from 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.960 the from the rails, man and court the goddamn right 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.080 fender on the on the on the rail, trying to 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.640 get out. So I'm looking, well, if I if I 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.720 just keep going. It's gonna loose to itself, the whole. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:57.040 I'm off the whole right front, bump off. Un Man, 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.040 let me tell them people came home from church. But 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:00.560 I ain't never got out like. 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:01.120 That ever again. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.240 Oh yeah, never got wore out like that ever again. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.640 Never had a whooping like that ever from both of them, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:11.640 never again. 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.360 Mind how y'all coming from church, but y'all beat me 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:15.000 like the devil. 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.200 Yeah yeah, we are. We already we are done, told 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.440 the Lord forgive us for our said. We already know 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:22.280 we were gonna do something. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:22.880 Yeah. 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.280 I would never I will never forget that day ever. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.800 Oh yeah, man, But you know what, out Joe, them 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:31.960 old people didn't play man. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.480 Uh huh. They didn't play. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.920 Mind boy like I said the bast The worst whooping 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.440 I ever got from my grandfather is that we were 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.760 going fishing. All of my cousins had done came down. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.840 We was going fishing. My Grandma's gonna get off. My 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.720 grandma wore from seven to three. So by the time 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.760 my sister go get a Noble wasn't driving then she 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.480 was driving, but she did have I don't think she 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.040 had license. Dear my aunt, I think it might have 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.920 been gladdest, might have been gladest of Papa might have 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:10.800 wouldn't pick the up. But anyway, all my cousins arn't 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.840 Eugene lande uh me, Spanky. 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.800 We all gonna go fishing. It's it's we're the oldest. 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.440 We're the oldest grands so we always gon we're gonna 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.560 go fishing that Saturday. Grant ain't getting no baits, everybody. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.080 Oh Joe, I done got me a milk cause I 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.120 already know we going fishing. You know that was our 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.880 thing Saturday. I done got a milk jug, done cut 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.760 it half it too. Hey, there got me some good 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.920 old wet dirt. I'm down there in the ditch. I'm 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:41.200 digging them jumping jacks, losing, you know, red wigglers, whatever 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:42.960 y'all want to call it. If you're from the southe 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.040 you go fishing, you know, by baby. Oh Joe, oh yo, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.160 I'm telling you, I got it, Oh Joe. When I 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.280 say I got them baits, I got him. I'm talking 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:56.640 about if you went to the store as many bas 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.480 I had, that probably cost you three dollars. Three dollars 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.080 in nineteen e seventy five seventy six, was a lot 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:07.159 of damn money. Yes, sir, So, Louisiana pinks cost you 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.960 the most money. They were long, long base, and like 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:11.280 I said, if you go fishing, you know what I'm 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.800 talking about. Louisiana Pink's they had regular wiglers, jumping jack, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.159 knight fall, whatever you want to call them. You get crikets, 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:21.440 you can get sawr worms, you get a what was 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:25.399 the mother counter. But we fished with you know, we 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.679 go find the old rotten stump and we get those 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.400 drug worms out of there. We fish you with those 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:33.240 twoards us. So you know me, So I done got 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.760 my thing. Everybody. You know, my brother and them they 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.679 got a little better. They they ain't got like I 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.440 got cause I got him. Cause you know me, o Chargers, 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.680 I'm the youngest. I gotta have a post right. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:44.320 Uh. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.200 Papa bought me a cane pole, got me a cane 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:49.080 pole for a quarter. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.200 Your boy could Ah, I'm good, can't keep. 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:58.360 You know what I said. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.919 I don't, y'all. I pull a bed. Yeah. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:03.400 Uh. 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.639 So we get to the lake. We ride in the 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.840 back of the truck. We got out. My cousin them 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:15.080 jump out. They they just got it gone. Shallna give 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:19.760 me your babes mm hmm. Nah, Grant ain't gonna be 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:26.280 do that. Mm hmm, you don't. 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.560 She didn't want to get me. She's like, she's like, boy, 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:29.359 give me them baths. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:38.119 I said no, Granny Barney, Yeah, that boy won't give 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:38.720 me them baits. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.240 Huh. 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.200 Nah, Barnie. I told him, I told him to give 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.080 you them baths. He said no, he wouldn't give them 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:53.679 to me. Oh Joe, I don't know what possessed me 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:54.200 to say no. 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.120 To this day. Wait. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.000 Why she wanted you base though she didn't have any 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.960 and she is still instead of instead of like taking 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.359 something from my cousin's them, she wanted mine. 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.159 Because I was the youngest. I couldn't have been no 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:09.800 more than right. 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.639 But man, man, you beat me so bad, Joe, Oh Joe, 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.000 I didn't even want to fish, no more. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.040 Better outside the back of the truck. 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:26.720 I don't even want to fi, I started, Oh Joe, 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.080 because I used to get mad. I was a poor spot. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.880 I used to get mad like my brother make me mad. Hey, 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:39.720 I start throwing rocks in the water. Boy, my grandma boycatter, Yeah, 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.240 one stopped talk. I'll be talking. My grandmother boy stopped talking. 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.080 You gonna scare the fish away. I can't hear that underwater. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:47.840 I can't hear nothing in the water. I can they 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.280 hear man, I get mad man. Oh Joe, that jn 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:56.720 beat me so bad, Joe, oh jo aldy alrighty fish. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:57.760 But that's classic. 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:00.320 But you know them they didn't play back there. They 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.520 busshell out you. I was surprised. It really surprised me 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.040 that I said no and she didn't do nothing, because 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.000 my grandma didn't play either. My grandma get close to 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.400