Speaker 1: The volume.
Speaker 2: As the Cleveland Brown quarterback competition progresses into mandatory mini camps,
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders has often found themselves practicing with the backups
Speaker 2: while team other passes Placo Picket and Dylan Gabriel have
Speaker 2: received first team reps. Shador said he's unbothered by practice
Speaker 2: reps instead of looking to take advantage of every opportunity
Speaker 2: to give.
Speaker 3: Life is just based on how you view different things.
Speaker 2: So you can view things if you're not getting reps
Speaker 2: in a negative way, or you can view it as Okay,
Speaker 2: it's my time to get out there.
Speaker 3: Let's be proactive and let's get warm. Let's get going.
Speaker 2: So there's no excuses because when you get out there,
Speaker 2: nobody cares how many reps you got whenever you got
Speaker 2: in the game. Nobody cares if you took a snap before.
Speaker 2: Everybody cares about production. So that's the main thing. When
Speaker 2: you get out out there, you got to be able
Speaker 2: to produce. Oh Joe, see I love this response. See
Speaker 2: now you got me questioning whether or not he was
Speaker 2: unprepared when he came to those meetings.
Speaker 3: I think y'all tried to salt that man up.
Speaker 2: I've only heard responses like this all the press conference.
Speaker 3: Yeah he had.
Speaker 2: I mean when he was in college, you know, he
Speaker 2: was a little facetious at times. But I did never
Speaker 2: I never got the inclination that he was unprepared. If
Speaker 2: the one thing that he was going to be, it's prepared.
Speaker 2: His father prepared him. He understands his dad. Although he
Speaker 2: didn't play quarterback, he understood what comes along with playing
Speaker 2: the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Right. I just I love the way he's answered the
Speaker 3: answered that question.
Speaker 4: He's answering the questions perfectly.
Speaker 5: And the funny thing about it that you know I
Speaker 5: got I got a couple of young bulls out there.
Speaker 5: You know I told the Denzel Award. You know I
Speaker 5: told some but let me sham I say the name.
Speaker 5: But anyway, I didn't talk to some people. He looked
Speaker 5: there's a difference when that young buller is out there
Speaker 5: spinning that ball. Yeah me difference I'm talking about. I'm
Speaker 5: talking about football. I ain't talking about no media and
Speaker 5: all that, all that hoopla and all them you know
Speaker 5: on Twitter, they putting up the numbers something people ten
Speaker 5: for twelve or two touchdown. I'm talking about when he's
Speaker 5: at the Ham. He looks different. Whether he's going with
Speaker 5: the first team, second team or third team. It don't matter.
Speaker 5: You know, I understand getting drafted in the fifth round,
Speaker 5: all that means nothing. When it's time to play football
Speaker 5: and that whistle blows, he looks different than the rest
Speaker 5: of the competition. That's that's what I heard. And I'm
Speaker 5: talking about I'm talking from from from a not brother water.
Speaker 5: I'm just talking about from sources that's in that room,
Speaker 5: that's on that field, that's playing the sport.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, I just say something that I can
Speaker 3: relate to. Yeah, you can't relate to this.
Speaker 2: You a second round draft pick, so you was probably
Speaker 2: at worst case scenario was running with the second the
Speaker 2: two's as soon as you stepped foot in the camp,
Speaker 2: it's somebody. But it's somebody that was a seventh round
Speaker 2: draft pick in that was with the third, fourth, fifteen,
Speaker 2: the last guy to get a rep. Some days, Oh,
Speaker 2: yoll I get one rep? What I get one rep?
Speaker 2: That's all I got? Yes, that's it? Oh that's it?
Speaker 4: Or I would have cut up. Well you got me, man.
Speaker 2: I just I just remember having a conversation with my brother.
Speaker 2: My brother would tell me and say, man, how it's
Speaker 2: going I susplained, man, I ain't man, they ain't gonna dang.
Speaker 2: I got like one rep. I got like two reps.
Speaker 2: I didn't even get in today. He said, don't worry
Speaker 2: about that. He said, one day, John Elwig gonna call
Speaker 2: on you. Yes, sir, just make sure when he called
Speaker 2: on you, you answer. Just make sure you're supposed you
Speaker 2: where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be there.
Speaker 2: That's all they told me. He said, A man, they
Speaker 2: messing over you. He never said, hey, you know what
Speaker 2: you can do. Now, you're gonna get your opportunity. It's
Speaker 2: gonna come. Yeah, and when it comes, swo. I was
Speaker 2: with the threes swollen, but surely I was with the two's.
Speaker 2: Hey now all of a sudden, hey, shark, get in there.
Speaker 2: I'm in the slot, but I'm running with the ones. Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So make the team mainly special teams. But you know, hey,
Speaker 2: they called it want somebody if we ran them all
Speaker 2: a bunch. So you know, I'm big receiver. I'm blocking,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, it didn't matter. I'm blocking forcher Ronnie Lott,
Speaker 2: you know, Eddie Anderson, all them big time, big time hitters.
Speaker 2: But that's the only thing that my brother told me.
Speaker 2: He didn't tell me they messing over me.
Speaker 3: He didn't say.
Speaker 2: All he said is like, you know what, John there,
Speaker 2: We're gonna call your number one day.
Speaker 3: Just make sure your answer. And I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I would go, I would go ask John, man, what
Speaker 3: can I do better?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I just I just want to be I just want
Speaker 3: to be like when you when you call them, I
Speaker 3: want to be there. He's like, hey, just.
Speaker 2: Make sure you get your head around, make sure you
Speaker 2: get your depth on your routes, blah blah blah. You
Speaker 2: know we run certain drills. He's like, hey, I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that effort slowly but surely, so if I
Speaker 2: could give I can't give you no advice how to
Speaker 2: play the quarterback position, but I say just keep doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just keep just keep doing what you're doing. That's all
Speaker 2: you gotta do. And people like, man, you always turned
Speaker 2: it in. I said, No, What I try to do
Speaker 2: is that in situations, what Ocho or now we try
Speaker 2: to do is that if we've been in those situations before,
Speaker 2: we can tell you how we handle it. We can
Speaker 2: get go inside because you're talking to people that was
Speaker 2: in the huddle, not somebody I didn't cover the game.
Speaker 2: I cover the game now, But you're talking about somebody
Speaker 2: that was in the huddle. Know what it's like on
Speaker 2: fourth and three. That's know what it's like when it's
Speaker 2: first in gold and you're down six. So I ain't
Speaker 2: tell you what somebody told me to say.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you through firsthand knowledge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first hand knowledge, being in the locker room, being
Speaker 2: in those meeting rooms. I love what your door said.
Speaker 2: I love the way he's handling it. I don't know
Speaker 2: when that time is gonna come on, yo. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: the man say you don't know when I'm coming. He said,
Speaker 2: you better make sure you be right when I return. Sure,
Speaker 2: Door doesn't know when the opportunity will present itself.
Speaker 4: He gonna be ready. Hey, I want to get back
Speaker 4: to this one rep man.
Speaker 5: Now that that's that stuck with me out of everything
Speaker 5: you never said, because but they about to raise Hell.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I'm a seventh a round draft pick. I'm
Speaker 2: a body Oh ship, Okay, my bad ain't no.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If I was the first round draft pick and I
Speaker 2: ain't getting but one REP or second round draft pick yet,
Speaker 2: I will I will have some issues too. But I'm
Speaker 2: a seventh round draft pick. And you know the thing
Speaker 2: is with me, I played well, I played, I played.
Speaker 2: I was the Z receiver.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So now you know, oh Joe, you coming to the rookie.
Speaker 3: You see you slot you X they throw you in
Speaker 3: a couple of players the type role. Can I learn?
Speaker 3: Let me learn one thing? Right, come on now, let
Speaker 3: me let me let me. I'm trying to write cursive
Speaker 3: and you try to get me to do triggonometry.
Speaker 2: Huh man, one rep, two reps? Show, that's all. I
Speaker 2: we out there for two hours.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: He everybody else getting called to get in there. Hey,
Speaker 2: turn to get in there. Johnson, get in there, y'all
Speaker 2: get in there. Everybody get in there. Last play Sharp,
Speaker 2: get in that disease man, listen. Huh, let me tell
Speaker 2: you something. Let me take that back. It was called
Speaker 2: It was not called to Z. It was called the wing.
Speaker 3: Right sharp, you at the wing?
Speaker 5: Hey, huh, you gotta think. And twos man TJ was
Speaker 5: on here with us. Remember he told you, Yeah, I
Speaker 5: take I was taking scout. I'm talking about two thousand
Speaker 5: and five, two thousand and six. I'm talking about my
Speaker 5: whole career. I ran our place, and I ran scout team, right,
Speaker 5: I'm I would purposely the gun on special teams. I
Speaker 5: would purposely go on special teams just to keep myself
Speaker 5: running through the whole practice. And I purposely took the
Speaker 5: scout team whoever the number one receiver based on who
Speaker 5: we're playing. Let's say we're playing the jag you know,
Speaker 5: we're playing the Jags. I'm Jimmy Smith on the scout team,
Speaker 5: and I'm taking every rep because now I get to
Speaker 5: work with the number one dB on our team and
Speaker 5: gave him good work so he'd be ready for Jimmy
Speaker 5: or keeping Keeny mccarr there on.
Speaker 4: Sunday yep, And I'm man Marvin and.
Speaker 5: You Jackson would have to pull me the f out
Speaker 5: of practice.
Speaker 2: But you know, training camp, it ain't really no scout team.
Speaker 2: It's one versus one one. Yes, you don't get you
Speaker 2: don't really get to the scout team until like that
Speaker 2: first preseason game because now, okay, offense, you going against
Speaker 2: the twos, uh, defense going against the two offense, things
Speaker 2: like that. And then obviously when you get to the
Speaker 2: regular season, the scout team you know, go to get
Speaker 2: given that. So yeah, now once once the regular season
Speaker 2: came Yeah, I was, I was that's me. I follow
Speaker 2: the ball right. Whoever had been that best receiver? It
Speaker 2: was Tim Brown. I'm Tim Brown, I'm him Brown, Old
Speaker 2: Timmy Man. Rod Smith came in. He said, Man, he
Speaker 2: was walking right across from mind, and he every day
Speaker 2: he absorbed everything of everybody that was another offense that
Speaker 2: I've ever been around. Rod Smith probably was probably my
Speaker 2: greatest student because he absorbed everything. He said, Man, I
Speaker 2: just want to said, he said, Man, I want I
Speaker 2: want that. I said, what you what he said, Man,
Speaker 2: the way crowd cheer you, the way everybody respects you.
Speaker 3: He said, I want that. I said, tell you what, when.
Speaker 2: The scout team come, whoever the best receiver is, you
Speaker 2: get that jersey.
Speaker 3: I don't care if your ex, I don't care if
Speaker 3: you'r Z.
Speaker 2: You get that jersey, and you go out there when
Speaker 2: they say hey, man's look, you bust their ass.
Speaker 3: I like that question. Man.
Speaker 2: The first time Fudds got in the game, we played
Speaker 2: Washington Endeavor three by one. We down hold React He's
Speaker 2: an ex receiver. They put it into a side by
Speaker 2: him filth by hisself. He got Darren Green matched up
Speaker 2: on it. John throw in the football. He jump over
Speaker 2: with Drren Green and catch it. We win the game.
Speaker 2: Oh right, lady, Yeah, yeah, I talked to fust Of
Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah, yeah, we ate him. You know,
Speaker 2: I still it's a few guys I stay in touch
Speaker 2: with a lot. Obviously, Burns, I talked to the house
Speaker 2: who's about backup tight end Chock Eye with another backup
Speaker 2: tight end Foots.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a few guys I still keep
Speaker 3: in touch with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what I tell guys, and a lot
Speaker 2: of you know, they say there are a conspiracy theory
Speaker 2: circling that Cleveland trying to force the early piace. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're gonna do everything they possibly can because they draft.
Speaker 3: They don't want to look bad. Oh Joe, if I.
Speaker 2: Draft Gilan Gabriel, how did I drafted shru Door and
Speaker 2: your door out playing? But they we looked bad. If
Speaker 2: he gets in there, I signed the Knny Pickett as
Speaker 2: a free agent. If he gets in there, he out
Speaker 2: played for Borns Kenny Picktt. That makes me look bad.
Speaker 2: So I'm going through give these guys every opportunity to
Speaker 2: succeed because I don't want you all to make me
Speaker 2: look bad. So you can say, oh yeah, we didn't
Speaker 2: have this grade on him. The matter the grade, because
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you gotta play. You
Speaker 2: can give that guy a plus or B whatever the
Speaker 2: case may be. But when we get in there, yeah,
Speaker 2: something got.
Speaker 4: To give, all right, but him some good days Bay.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yes, but I love I love the
Speaker 2: way your door answered the question. It's like, look, first team,
Speaker 2: secondeen thirteen, when they call my name, I'll be ready
Speaker 2: because they're don't nobody care, didn't nobody care the a
Speaker 2: all the tight ends got hurt, and they putting a
Speaker 2: seventh round draft pick in there from Savanna State.
Speaker 3: Any nobody care, no about that.
Speaker 2: All the song was number eighty one, sharp man, that's
Speaker 2: Sterling's brother. I wonder if he's as good as his brother. Hell,
Speaker 2: if I was, they better had to take it. They
Speaker 2: took me to the seventh round, and I'm just as
Speaker 2: good as my brother. Somebody do some poor a scouting,
Speaker 2: But I thought I was. Oh Joe, you couldn't tell
Speaker 2: that I wasn't as good as my brother. I'm on
Speaker 2: all his records. I did everything that he did, everything
Speaker 2: he did now, but he more physically like I was
Speaker 2: more talented.
Speaker 3: Right. He was a harder worker. Right. So once I
Speaker 3: got to college, I was like, man, sh.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, scouts say't really come because he was
Speaker 2: telling me, Man, we had all the scouts from every
Speaker 2: team I think the title of like twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: Every scout was here today.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, y'all having scouts Like now we have no
Speaker 2: scouts down here.
Speaker 3: So I know the opportunity.
Speaker 2: So I got to I got to do something to
Speaker 2: make the scouts come, right, that's it should do.
Speaker 3: Or keep doing what you're doing, bro, I love it.
Speaker 2: I know you're not your your dad dealing with a
Speaker 2: little some health problems right now, but you've gone through
Speaker 2: it versus before when you did Jackson State and your
Speaker 2: dad had that had those blood clots. You built for this.
Speaker 2: You are absolutely one thousand percent built for this. Head up,
Speaker 2: prayed up, Stay up.
Speaker 3: So o. Joe Pooka Lakoua is an ig name.
Speaker 2: Pooka is dead because his mom discovered that he had
Speaker 2: Instagram in the eighth grade and changed the name. My
Speaker 2: mom eighth grade. In my eighth grade year, didn't know
Speaker 2: I had Instagram. My mom found my Instagram, my gin
Speaker 2: changed it. She made it Pooker is dead to let
Speaker 2: me know I was in trouble. What is the most
Speaker 2: memorable time you got caught, Ojoe.
Speaker 4: Oh Man, Listen.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't know if I told the story and
Speaker 5: the most memberable time I got caught if it had
Speaker 5: nothing to do with obviously, back then I was, I
Speaker 5: was young, is man. I had to nerve my grandma
Speaker 5: and my grandfather. They done went to church, and I
Speaker 5: had the nerve to pull that goddamn car. I had
Speaker 5: the nerve to pull one of their cars out the driveway.
Speaker 5: You know, we had an old steel fence back in
Speaker 5: the day, the old steel fence that just that slide back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let it open and.
Speaker 4: Put the car reverse.
Speaker 5: I'll never forget it was a five hundred five hundred
Speaker 5: bins but it was Diesel.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, okay, old school.
Speaker 5: I done pulled the goddamn car out the driveway backwards,
Speaker 5: and don't know how to drive, and don't know how
Speaker 5: to differentiate how far I am from the rift, from
Speaker 5: the from the rails, man and court the goddamn right
Speaker 5: fender on the on the on the rail, trying to
Speaker 5: get out. So I'm looking, well, if I if I
Speaker 5: just keep going. It's gonna loose to itself, the whole.
Speaker 5: I'm off the whole right front, bump off. Un Man,
Speaker 5: let me tell them people came home from church. But
Speaker 5: I ain't never got out like.
Speaker 4: That ever again.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, never got wore out like that ever again.
Speaker 5: Never had a whooping like that ever from both of them,
Speaker 5: never again.
Speaker 4: Mind how y'all coming from church, but y'all beat me
Speaker 4: like the devil.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, we are. We already we are done, told
Speaker 2: the Lord forgive us for our said. We already know
Speaker 2: we were gonna do something.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I would never I will never forget that day ever.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, But you know what, out Joe, them
Speaker 2: old people didn't play man.
Speaker 3: Uh huh. They didn't play.
Speaker 2: Mind boy like I said the bast The worst whooping
Speaker 2: I ever got from my grandfather is that we were
Speaker 2: going fishing. All of my cousins had done came down.
Speaker 2: We was going fishing. My Grandma's gonna get off. My
Speaker 2: grandma wore from seven to three. So by the time
Speaker 2: my sister go get a Noble wasn't driving then she
Speaker 2: was driving, but she did have I don't think she
Speaker 2: had license. Dear my aunt, I think it might have
Speaker 2: been gladdest, might have been gladest of Papa might have
Speaker 2: wouldn't pick the up. But anyway, all my cousins arn't
Speaker 2: Eugene lande uh me, Spanky.
Speaker 3: We all gonna go fishing. It's it's we're the oldest.
Speaker 2: We're the oldest grands so we always gon we're gonna
Speaker 2: go fishing that Saturday. Grant ain't getting no baits, everybody.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I done got me a milk cause I
Speaker 2: already know we going fishing. You know that was our
Speaker 2: thing Saturday. I done got a milk jug, done cut
Speaker 2: it half it too. Hey, there got me some good
Speaker 2: old wet dirt. I'm down there in the ditch. I'm
Speaker 2: digging them jumping jacks, losing, you know, red wigglers, whatever
Speaker 2: y'all want to call it. If you're from the southe
Speaker 2: you go fishing, you know, by baby. Oh Joe, oh yo,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I got it, Oh Joe. When I
Speaker 2: say I got them baits, I got him. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about if you went to the store as many bas
Speaker 2: I had, that probably cost you three dollars. Three dollars
Speaker 2: in nineteen e seventy five seventy six, was a lot
Speaker 2: of damn money. Yes, sir, So, Louisiana pinks cost you
Speaker 2: the most money. They were long, long base, and like
Speaker 2: I said, if you go fishing, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. Louisiana Pink's they had regular wiglers, jumping jack,
Speaker 2: knight fall, whatever you want to call them. You get crikets,
Speaker 2: you can get sawr worms, you get a what was
Speaker 2: the mother counter. But we fished with you know, we
Speaker 2: go find the old rotten stump and we get those
Speaker 2: drug worms out of there. We fish you with those
Speaker 2: twoards us. So you know me, So I done got
Speaker 2: my thing. Everybody. You know, my brother and them they
Speaker 2: got a little better. They they ain't got like I
Speaker 2: got cause I got him. Cause you know me, o Chargers,
Speaker 2: I'm the youngest. I gotta have a post right.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Papa bought me a cane pole, got me a cane
Speaker 2: pole for a quarter.
Speaker 3: Your boy could Ah, I'm good, can't keep.
Speaker 4: You know what I said.
Speaker 3: I don't, y'all. I pull a bed. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: So we get to the lake. We ride in the
Speaker 2: back of the truck. We got out. My cousin them
Speaker 2: jump out. They they just got it gone. Shallna give
Speaker 2: me your babes mm hmm. Nah, Grant ain't gonna be
Speaker 2: do that. Mm hmm, you don't.
Speaker 3: She didn't want to get me. She's like, she's like, boy,
Speaker 3: give me them baths.
Speaker 2: I said no, Granny Barney, Yeah, that boy won't give
Speaker 2: me them baits.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: Nah, Barnie. I told him, I told him to give
Speaker 2: you them baths. He said no, he wouldn't give them
Speaker 2: to me. Oh Joe, I don't know what possessed me
Speaker 2: to say no.
Speaker 3: To this day. Wait.
Speaker 2: Why she wanted you base though she didn't have any
Speaker 2: and she is still instead of instead of like taking
Speaker 2: something from my cousin's them, she wanted mine.
Speaker 3: Because I was the youngest. I couldn't have been no
Speaker 3: more than right.
Speaker 1: But man, man, you beat me so bad, Joe, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: I didn't even want to fish, no more.
Speaker 3: Better outside the back of the truck.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to fi, I started, Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: because I used to get mad. I was a poor spot.
Speaker 2: I used to get mad like my brother make me mad. Hey,
Speaker 2: I start throwing rocks in the water. Boy, my grandma boycatter, Yeah,
Speaker 2: one stopped talk. I'll be talking. My grandmother boy stopped talking.
Speaker 2: You gonna scare the fish away. I can't hear that underwater.
Speaker 2: I can't hear nothing in the water. I can they
Speaker 2: hear man, I get mad man. Oh Joe, that jn
Speaker 2: beat me so bad, Joe, oh jo aldy alrighty fish.
Speaker 4: But that's classic.
Speaker 2: But you know them they didn't play back there. They
Speaker 2: busshell out you. I was surprised. It really surprised me
Speaker 2: that I said no and she didn't do nothing, because
Speaker 2: my grandma didn't play either. My grandma get close to
Speaker 2: you and hit you dad in your mouth.
Speaker 5: Quick, quick, creak, backhand. I'll never forget that backhand.
Speaker 2: Oh yo. You know if you got a fire square foot,
Speaker 2: I mean the HoTT ain't but so big. My grandma
Speaker 2: be a mess. Frank can be in the living room
Speaker 2: and granted, be in the kitchen cook it and I
Speaker 2: will say something and grat to say.
Speaker 3: I show wish I was close to that boy so
Speaker 3: I could hit him in his mouth. Hm. You know
Speaker 3: a and what got you in trouble? Oh yo? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think Jamaicans and Caribbean people call it kissing your teeth.
Speaker 2: We call it sucking your teeth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Grandma, I ged him.
Speaker 4: I need something all right, all right, you play play.
Speaker 5: If you want to and stopping it, boy, dude, take
Speaker 5: you and you better not slam my goddamn though. Oh hey,
Speaker 5: when I sit back and think about it, man, I
Speaker 5: think about all the all the times I've gotten gotten
Speaker 5: in trouble, all the times I've gotten beaten. But I
Speaker 5: do anything, my God, I swear for God, I do
Speaker 5: anything to hear my mama curse.
Speaker 4: Me out one more time.
Speaker 5: And I do I do anything to hear my grandma
Speaker 5: say chatty, to have her scream chatty real loud right
Speaker 5: when them light when them when them light poles come
Speaker 5: on out there in Liberty sitting when they come on,
Speaker 5: and she would scream my name just to make sure
Speaker 5: I'm in the area, to.
Speaker 3: Let you know it.
Speaker 4: Well, I do anything to hear it, just to have
Speaker 4: them teemok us.
Speaker 2: Again, you don't think about it at the time, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: that you're gonna miss those moments you just like man,
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get grown and get away from here.
Speaker 2: I'm tired of all this yelling, and I'm tired of
Speaker 2: all this screaming. I'm tired of all these ass cuttings.
Speaker 2: I just hey, and I didn't get a whole lot
Speaker 2: because I was the youngest. I didn't get a whole
Speaker 2: I didn't get, but the ones there's sometimes I got.
Speaker 3: Somebody didn't think I deserved. I deserved them.
Speaker 2: Not looking back at it, but you know when you
Speaker 2: you five, six, seven years old, you're think you deserve boy,
Speaker 2: I please, and uh but you like, like I said,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, it took all that. It took all of
Speaker 2: that to to to get us to where we needed
Speaker 2: to go, because that's what they say. There's no doubt
Speaker 2: in my mind. My grandmother didn't know me and my
Speaker 2: brother was gonna turn out to be professional athletes and
Speaker 2: accomplished what all I knew. I don't think my grandmother
Speaker 2: and we didn't want that. My grandmother dropped out of
Speaker 2: school in like the second grade. Grandfathers dropped out of
Speaker 2: the second grade. School wasn't big on them, you know, like, son,
Speaker 2: just don't be no dummy. Yeah, okay, that wasn't gonna
Speaker 2: take much. But I looked back at that time and
Speaker 2: then me and Spanky, my brother, we get on the
Speaker 2: phone and we just talked about that. Said, man, you
Speaker 2: remember that? Do I remember it? He's like, man, you
Speaker 2: remember everything? Is that any Did you forget anything? I
Speaker 2: was like, Nah, not really, not really because we just
Speaker 2: him and I. Yeah, just him and I. And like
Speaker 2: you said, oh, Joe, I don't know if I want
Speaker 2: to go back because that was hell back then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hell.
Speaker 2: Uh the limited resources that we had. We had love,
Speaker 2: but food was on short supply. You know, love was
Speaker 2: in abundance. We you know, boy, I would who but
Speaker 2: I would give anything for my grandfather and my dad
Speaker 2: to actually physically I know the spirit o Joe. I
Speaker 2: know they saw, but the physically see what me and
Speaker 2: my brother became. Just one game, my granda, have my dad,
Speaker 2: my grandfather there, Have my dad on the sideline, Have
Speaker 2: my dad come in the locker room, have popa see see.
Speaker 3: What we became.
Speaker 2: Because I remember one night, it was probably about nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy probably about nineteen seventy five, might have been early,
Speaker 2: might have been seventy four. Like I said, I slept
Speaker 2: with Granny Spanky s level Papa. Spanky slept on the
Speaker 2: back of Papa. I slept on the back of Granny
Speaker 2: and they were talking. It had to be about two
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. And I remember, like yesterday he
Speaker 2: was like Mary.
Speaker 3: She was speaking. He's like, yeah, Barney, he said.
Speaker 2: He said, Mary, i'm'll probably be dead and gone, but
Speaker 2: them two little fellas gonna make something.
Speaker 5: Mm hm.
Speaker 2: She said, yeah, barn and they they so smart. There's
Speaker 2: some good fellas. They they ain't like our boys.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He said, yeah, Mayor I'll probably be dead and gone.
Speaker 2: He said, but that little one, he said, that little
Speaker 2: one don't forget nothing.
Speaker 3: Mary. You're talking about me, Yeah, and I did. I
Speaker 3: hung everything.
Speaker 2: My grandfather said everything, my grandfather, my grandfather, my grandmother.
Speaker 2: You know back then, oh Joe Day, by the back
Speaker 2: of your head, come you know, just right down there, Hey,
Speaker 2: come on, come on boy.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, they didn't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't remember my grandfather. My grandfather died in seventy seven,
Speaker 2: so I was almost nine. I was eight years old.
Speaker 2: I was about to be nine. He died in February.
Speaker 2: I have been nine that June. I don't think my grandfather.
Speaker 2: They would call me my name. It was always boy's son,
Speaker 2: boy boy to. I mean that's what that's what old
Speaker 2: people called you. Then they didn't call you your name.
Speaker 2: Hey boy, come here, hey son, come get this, Hey Libby,
Speaker 2: where them boys? At Okay, take these to the boys.
Speaker 2: I missed that. I missed that. Granny got an opportunity
Speaker 2: to see it. You know, she came. She came to
Speaker 2: my last my last game in Samanna State. She got
Speaker 2: an opportunity to witness.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: She came to my college graduation. She came to my
Speaker 2: high school graduation. She got a witness a lot of faiths. Obviously,
Speaker 2: my mom is still alive, So my mom got to
Speaker 2: go to everything. But if I could, just my dad
Speaker 2: and my grandfather, Barney Porter, my dad, my grandfather, he
Speaker 2: was a lie.
Speaker 3: I think he saw Yeah.
Speaker 2: He died in ninety No no, no, no, no, he
Speaker 2: died before the and he died when I went to college. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I remember the last time I saw him alive.
Speaker 2: I ended up taking my UH. I took my girlfriend
Speaker 2: from college up there Threesville. There was some times on
Speaker 2: Joe you won't catch Joe flack On dancing on TikTok
Speaker 2: anytime soon, flat On chime down on players getting on
Speaker 2: TikTok and doing dance moves, saying no TikTok dances. This generation,
Speaker 2: the fact that people want to get out their phone
Speaker 2: to show people like that's embarrassing.
Speaker 3: You're an adult like be an a dog.
Speaker 2: I can't wrap my head around that well till you
Speaker 2: you big into TikTok.
Speaker 5: Don't you now my kid? My kids are? My kids
Speaker 5: are huge. My kids are huge on TikTok I have.
Speaker 5: I have a TikTok uh I don't know how to
Speaker 5: work it. So all I do is I use TikTok
Speaker 5: as if it's a GQ magazine, Right, that's it. It's literally,
Speaker 5: a matter of fact, a chat me and everybody in
Speaker 5: the chat follow my TikTok. Matter of fact, let me
Speaker 5: type it in the chat, and y'all follow my y'all
Speaker 5: follow my TikTok because I don't know how to work it.
Speaker 3: Well, what it's gonna do it? If you don't know
Speaker 3: how to work it, what does it follow you for?
Speaker 4: Because I just post pictures and be fly.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 4: I just post pictures and be fly.
Speaker 3: Aren't you supposed to do something on TikTok.
Speaker 5: It's supposed to be like some video, but I don't
Speaker 5: know how to work it. People know how to edit
Speaker 5: and do all I don't know how to do all
Speaker 5: that stuff. I don't know how to do.
Speaker 2: All that ash wants to know who is a bigger curmudgeon,
Speaker 2: flack O or Shannon.
Speaker 4: A bigger who?
Speaker 3: What was the word curmudgeon? What do that mean? Huh?
Speaker 4: What curmudgeon means?
Speaker 2: That's good. I can't tell you. We're gonna ask you
Speaker 2: to spell it next time. A cranky, grouchy me.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, black of flack of flack
Speaker 5: of old head. Now he how old flack o forty? Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know flack o And he not. He not with that,
Speaker 5: He ain't with that.
Speaker 4: Understandable though understandable.
Speaker 3: Oh oh.
Speaker 2: Joe Kiya White kept it short and sweet on the
Speaker 2: big difference between the Patriots this season. He said, now
Speaker 2: I feel like I have a coach.
Speaker 3: Who what? But what that? What that I mean? What?
Speaker 4: What's that supposed to mean?
Speaker 2: You dating somebody? And she said, now I feel like
Speaker 2: I got a man in my life. And the last
Speaker 2: person she dated was you. What that's supposed to mean?
Speaker 3: Ship?
Speaker 2: The same thing if you said, hey, now I got
Speaker 2: Now I feel like I got somebody that hears me.
Speaker 2: I got somebody that listened to. I got somebody that
Speaker 2: that's my best be'st that got your boy?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't like that.
Speaker 3: Listen, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't. I don't like what brother
Speaker 4: Butro but Butter Dion said. I don't like.
Speaker 3: What's white white.
Speaker 4: Hey, I don't mean to be rude.
Speaker 5: Hey man now, man now man, I mean, I don't
Speaker 5: that's that's that's called.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he meant because I don't like
Speaker 2: the speculator on Joe. But you know how it's going
Speaker 2: to be perceived, right, I.
Speaker 4: Know it's gonna be perceived, you know.
Speaker 5: But I know when it comes to on field play,
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes it's okay. Sometimes you know, you have
Speaker 5: coaches that elevate your players play, and you have players
Speaker 5: regardless of who your coach is, you do what gotta be
Speaker 5: done with you in between them lines, there's two different
Speaker 5: types of players.
Speaker 3: Like you might have to talk.
Speaker 5: About quarterbacks need a supporting cast and in their quarterbacks
Speaker 5: that can elevate the people around them.
Speaker 4: Now, which player are you now?
Speaker 5: Depending on who the depending on the player that you are,
Speaker 5: you know, who's coaching you really don't matter because you're
Speaker 5: gonna have an your business anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't like them worries though, I don't. I don't
Speaker 4: like like that.
Speaker 3: Uh. I was always a guy O Joe. I never
Speaker 3: wanted somebody to lose their job on my watch.
Speaker 5: Nah, but shoot if if, if I'm responsible, boy, you're
Speaker 5: gonna work forever.
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs had high praise for Mike Brabel, saying I
Speaker 2: can tell he was a part of championship teams. I'm
Speaker 2: a huge fan of him. I can't wait to play
Speaker 2: for him. He got that edch like you want to
Speaker 2: run through a wall for him. Look when he was
Speaker 2: at Tennessee. All the guys love playing some some coaches,
Speaker 2: don't shoe you love playing for It's really that simple.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just love playing for.
Speaker 4: You just do Yeah, Hey, and you know what, what's funny?
Speaker 4: If you can look at the inn.
Speaker 5: I'm not even playing no more. And I could tell
Speaker 5: you the coaches. I'll probably run through a wall for
Speaker 5: right now. Sean McVay, Shanahan yep. Mike Tomlin yep, He
Speaker 5: Carrol yep, Brother Vabel Rabel, break Mike, Mike, I'm trying.
Speaker 3: You did I did? He's the Steelers first. He was
Speaker 3: at the Steelers first.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 5: He show was, The show was a still at first.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's just that's that's five players. I'm
Speaker 5: talking about players, coaches, players, coaches that can that can
Speaker 5: can relate to you and understand exactly what you're going through.
Speaker 3: Around the game.
Speaker 2: Definitely be one of my favorite. He'd probably be the
Speaker 2: first coach Andy Reid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh you know you know who I left off?
Speaker 4: God Damn Dan Campbell.
Speaker 3: Boy, Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: He might keep it key to geeked, though, I say'd
Speaker 2: be geeked all the way through the week.
Speaker 5: O Joe, listen, listen, boy, I couldn't play for that
Speaker 5: Lion's team right now.
Speaker 4: I got my coach talking ship too.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, ain't no telling, oh Joe. Yeah, we're in
Speaker 3: the clear.
Speaker 2: Nikki saw her apology and she tweeted, lo o l
Speaker 2: Well we got a funny little rap bar of it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Shannon, because I was like, what I've done?
Speaker 2: I did now, Uh you never cleaned it up with
Speaker 2: the barb, so we had so I had to avenge them.
Speaker 2: Oh Yoe. You know, it's a whole of love for life.
Speaker 2: But you know you laugh when I heard it.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. You know, listen, that's a friend of mine,
Speaker 5: been in front of mine for a very long time. Obviously,
Speaker 5: that whole young money side. But I'm glad, I'm glad
Speaker 5: things are sorted out. I'm glad things are sort out now.
Speaker 5: This is a step in the right direction. Yeah, and hoping.
Speaker 5: And then I'm gonna tell you I listened said that
Speaker 5: word in the cist like getting her to come on,
Speaker 5: come on, come on on home clubs say say you
Speaker 5: have a nice sit down, hash out your differences, talk
Speaker 5: about everything she has going on.
Speaker 2: And I think, Nikki, when you have an album dropping,
Speaker 2: come on, come on, sit on down. Yeah, everybody normally
Speaker 2: people to have projects coming out, we come, sit down,
Speaker 2: we talk about it.
Speaker 3: You get to tell your story without interruptions.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 4: That's done.
Speaker 2: I like that. A guy posted a video with the
Speaker 2: caption when it's your first time getting a section in
Speaker 2: the club.
Speaker 3: But the math at Mathing watch this video with your prices.
Speaker 4: Oh, he comparing the price.
Speaker 3: So he's praying the price.
Speaker 2: He playing the price, Like, Okay, if I were to
Speaker 2: buy it at the store versus what it's like at
Speaker 2: the club.
Speaker 3: Oh, they marked that thing up three.
Speaker 4: Hundred percent, bro, absolutely.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you could buy a bottle out at
Speaker 2: a at a bottle of wine. Say you buy a
Speaker 2: bottle of wine for fifty dollars, it's three hundred dollars
Speaker 2: in the club, excuse me, or the restaurant. Or you
Speaker 2: buy a bottle in fifty dollars bottle, it's four hundred,
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars at the club because guess what you're
Speaker 2: in at that store.
Speaker 3: And if you want a drink, you got to pay
Speaker 3: you that price.
Speaker 5: Listen, I don't I don't understand how people do it.
Speaker 5: Un I understand the markup. Listen, and then mark up
Speaker 5: certain everything everything, whether it be clothes, whether it be
Speaker 5: jewelry in the club, shoes it is, it's ship. But
Speaker 5: in the club, with my understanding, the markup on alcohol
Speaker 5: is outwards.
Speaker 3: That's where you make your money, Joe.
Speaker 5: And then they go in there, they got to know.
Speaker 5: They buy bottle, left the bottle, bottle left the bottle.
Speaker 5: And then you have something I see on Twitter and
Speaker 5: I see on Instagrams. You got certain certain dudes. They
Speaker 5: going to the club and spend all this money and
Speaker 5: they have bottle wars, huh, to see who's gonna spend
Speaker 5: the most money on alcohol.
Speaker 4: And then they be the you know, they be pouring
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it ain't never been one of those guys.
Speaker 4: What kind of man?
Speaker 3: What is your?
Speaker 2: We will compete, but it's gonna be. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: on the field, it's gonna be. You know, it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: I don't compete trying to spend the most money. I'm
Speaker 2: good you win.
Speaker 4: It makes no sense.
Speaker 3: It doesn't. It does not who you trying to impress.
Speaker 4: And it beats me. It beats me. I just damn man.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I don't understand it because I don't drink alcohol.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's the problem. I don't understand it. So it's
Speaker 5: hard for me to wrap my mind around going to
Speaker 5: a club having a section h buying bottles, having him
Speaker 5: come out with the sparklers and you know the It's just.
Speaker 4: Everybody has advice.
Speaker 5: I'm sure people look at me and say, well, your
Speaker 5: your black ass smokes.
Speaker 3: Send you the cigars? Yet?
Speaker 4: Nah, oh Na, How we're gonna send them to what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: What address?
Speaker 3: I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Somebody might have got him, somebody might be smoking on them.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Mag Listen, you know what, I'm me and Ken, we're
Speaker 5: gonna have to tussle. So I don't really want to
Speaker 5: do nothing to him, but that that's my boy. I love,
Speaker 5: I love Kenyon, but that's my boy. But I might
Speaker 5: have to put him in the giote.
Speaker 2: Uh time now for our Vinyl segment, even if it's
Speaker 2: time for you an a.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah all right, Oh you're still okay?
Speaker 3: Back Kepper? Nor what Jr? Said?
Speaker 2: Which rapper duo would you choose from Little Wayne and
Speaker 2: Gorilla or Little Baby and Cardi B?
Speaker 3: Is this a true question, Kepper? That's a light one.
Speaker 3: What were you going? Mass stop?
Speaker 4: I'm asking.
Speaker 1: Oh little Wayne and Ash, Little Wayne and Ash? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who are you taking?
Speaker 3: Hold on?
Speaker 4: Give me, give me, give me.
Speaker 2: Which rap duo would you choose from Little Wayne and
Speaker 2: blow Riller or a little Baby and Cardi B.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going Wayne.
Speaker 4: I'm going Wayne D.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Listen, this ain't ain't nothing, ain't nothing wrong with a
Speaker 5: little Baby and Cardi.
Speaker 6: Now they they look Wayne a goat. Oh yeah yeah
Speaker 6: yeah I didn't. You ain't got to tell me. I've
Speaker 6: been I've been in a lab with Wayne. Now she's
Speaker 6: talking about yeah.
Speaker 3: And I like glow. I like little real country ass.
Speaker 4: He funny.
Speaker 2: Hey, don't give me, let me clarify, because everybody goes
Speaker 2: Now they gonna run till CARDI b shouting like gorilla
Speaker 2: bettery like you.
Speaker 3: I had glow on the show. Yeah, she was unbelievable.
Speaker 4: She was great's funny.
Speaker 3: Shared a story.
Speaker 2: So cause you know, now, O Joe, if you say
Speaker 2: you like somebody, that means you hate somebody else.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh Joe, you like bananas? Man?
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, oh yo hate oranges. No, he just said
Speaker 2: he liked bananas. That don't mean he hate oranges.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You see.
Speaker 2: So now if you if you like something, that means
Speaker 2: you gotta hate. No, that's not But if I had
Speaker 2: to choose, you got you gave me two choices.
Speaker 3: You got A or B. I choose A.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean I hate B. That just means I
Speaker 2: chose A. I think A is better.
Speaker 3: Right. I mean, well, you gotta have for clarification now,
Speaker 3: o your Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean you you do? You know people people like
Speaker 4: to take things and wrong with it.
Speaker 3: You bought a car. Oh oh, so you you don't
Speaker 3: like Mercedes?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Because I bought a BMW, that means I don't like Mercedes.
Speaker 2: Or I bought a gas card. I don't mean I
Speaker 2: don't like evs. So oh Joe jans Rivalo said, oh yo,
Speaker 2: two million subs by the weekend, and hey, you give
Speaker 2: unk money to so work from the chat? Hold on,
Speaker 2: jan what the hell you're talking about? Give hunks money
Speaker 2: to somebody prot the chat? The hell you say give
Speaker 2: unk money?
Speaker 3: Kill? How about that?
Speaker 4: I got you? I got That's that's a good one though.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Nick Mars said, I feel bad for that, rooking sensey.
Speaker 2: If oil represents sency, we know that they don't pay right.
Speaker 2: You know what, Joe, you just like the bingles they rubbed.
Speaker 3: Off on you. But they don't want to pay their players.
Speaker 3: You don't want to pay me.
Speaker 4: That ain't got nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3: They do. You a representation of Cincinnati. I am.
Speaker 5: I am like if I cut myself right now, I
Speaker 5: bleed black and orange, you hear me.
Speaker 2: But I'll make sure they get somebody get I'm call
Speaker 2: nine on one so they can get you. So they
Speaker 2: get over there and save you, so I can get
Speaker 2: my fifty nine hundred. You got you gotta understand.
Speaker 5: See Mike Brown and Katie and Troy they run a
Speaker 5: billion dollar enterprise.
Speaker 4: You know I ain't. I ain't got that kind I
Speaker 4: ain't got that kind of money. It's different.
Speaker 5: So they run their bit. It's a little bit different.
Speaker 5: So I got a hold on the mind.
Speaker 4: Until I get extra. When I got actually and I
Speaker 4: can send you yours, let's do it me.
Speaker 2: Hell chat how that works? So you owe somebody, so
Speaker 2: you owe your car. So you got a car payment,
Speaker 2: or you got a mortgage, so you tell the mortgage
Speaker 2: company you know what, I ain't got that. So when
Speaker 2: I get extra, I pay you. It's okay. Let's sixty
Speaker 2: days pass and you ain't got that extra. We got
Speaker 2: something for you.
Speaker 4: And that's different.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 4: That's different, though different.
Speaker 3: The mortgage company won't their money. I won't mind. Okay,
Speaker 3: I got you.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna send it to you. You you done added
Speaker 5: interest anyway, So I got you.
Speaker 2: I'm Glenn for real said love you uncle, Oho, great show.
Speaker 3: We appreciate that. Doctor Frank L.
Speaker 2: Bellaman said, Hey, fam, can y'all please give me a
Speaker 2: birthday shout out to him My amazing son, Xavier. I
Speaker 2: can't believe he's twenty nine years old. Thank you, Love
Speaker 2: at happy birthday. Man, I know your mom and dad
Speaker 2: extremely proud, great parents. Man, your mom and dad been
Speaker 2: so supportive. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Doc, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: You've been a lord, been down from the very I
Speaker 2: remember seeing doctor Frank L. Bellaman looking at looking down
Speaker 2: and seeing it our first show. We allied that Sunday,
Speaker 2: that Sunday, Oh Joe uh. And when I was in
Speaker 2: New York and I looked down and I saw doctor
Speaker 2: Frank L.
Speaker 3: Bellaman.
Speaker 2: And she's been I mean, she came to the Bager Show,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your support and happy birthday, Xavier.
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