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Speaker 3: U leash the fjord, Ron Wolfley. I have a question.
Speaker 3: Are you familiar with the NFL name Sonny Weaver Junior?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: You are?
Speaker 1: Yes, He's a scout, isn't he someone?
Speaker 3: Sonny Weaver Junior is the fictional character Kevin Costner played
Speaker 3: in the Draft Day movie twenty fourteen. He was the
Speaker 3: GM Sonny Weaver Junior.
Speaker 1: That's why I know it. Paul, there you go, I
Speaker 1: was right about it, but it's make believe. I guess technically.
Speaker 3: You've already defied the critics. Wolf. You actually had somewhat
Speaker 3: of a knowledge or notion of who Sonny Weaver Junior was.
Speaker 3: Is He had a saying in the movie and the
Speaker 3: quote went something like this, Okay, Sonny Weaver Junior in
Speaker 3: that movie like to say, the great ones always find
Speaker 3: a way to slow things down. He liked to say
Speaker 3: that in the war room. And I throw that out
Speaker 3: there because not only are we getting close to the
Speaker 3: NFL Draft, but I I'm here to say that I
Speaker 3: do believe over the next ten days, two weeks, there
Speaker 3: will be change, a lot of change at lightning pace
Speaker 3: at times. And so the great ones find a way
Speaker 3: to slow things down, not unlike Joe Montana and the
Speaker 3: Clutch with a super Bowl on the line and make
Speaker 3: those sort of decisions, those sort of game breaking plays
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes in this last super Bowl just a couple
Speaker 3: of months ago here in the az So who can
Speaker 3: slow things down and make those money decisions in the
Speaker 3: Clutch when oh, I don't know, you're on the clock,
Speaker 3: or you got to figure out if you want to
Speaker 3: make a franchise changing trade. It is all part of
Speaker 3: our discussion here tonight on the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 3: by santan Ford and Gilbert we Are. Santane Ford, Paul
Speaker 3: I would say this that the great ones know how
Speaker 3: to mess things up. Okay, I mean mess things up
Speaker 3: in terms of what is it you think we're going
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: What is it you think we're going to do? You
Speaker 1: think we're going to do this? We're going to do
Speaker 1: the exact op This is this is right now the
Speaker 1: height of draft subterfuge. I've been talking about it for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, but this is it right now.
Speaker 1: There is misinformation, and there is disinformation, and disinformation is
Speaker 1: the wanton, wilful desire to mislead Paully. Do you think
Speaker 1: there are general managers that are out there right now
Speaker 1: that are trying to mislead other gms as to what
Speaker 1: they're going to do?
Speaker 3: Are you seeing the Houston Texans, for example, have Davis
Speaker 3: Mills and Kyle Allen as their two quarterbacks right now.
Speaker 3: They have the number two pick overall, and we're supposed
Speaker 3: to believe they're not going quarterback at number two.
Speaker 1: Ding Ding Ding. I think we have a winner.
Speaker 3: Okay, so there's an example, and we're going to get
Speaker 3: into all this couple of headlines from today. Here we go, Wolf.
Speaker 3: According to the Insiders, guess who has been visiting the
Speaker 3: Cardinals today. Nolan Smith, Georgia linebacker with the ridiculous athleticism
Speaker 3: six two, two thirty eight, the guy who ran the
Speaker 3: four three nine forty at the Common. Nolan Smith has
Speaker 3: reportedly been visiting with the Cardinals today. Will Anderson has
Speaker 3: been visiting with the Seahawks. CJ. Stroud has been visiting
Speaker 3: with Atlanta. If CJ. Stroud is still on the board
Speaker 3: of number three, do you think Atlanta might trade up
Speaker 3: with the Cardinals at number three?
Speaker 1: Oh, PAULI I think anything is possible. Are you kidding
Speaker 1: me right now? Yes, I could see the Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 1: looking at a CJ. Stroud and just drooling all over
Speaker 1: the place. Once again, there's a couple of scenarios, and
Speaker 1: I know we're going to talk about this in more detail,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to get too far down that
Speaker 1: rabbit hole right now, but yes, to answer your question,
Speaker 1: I could see Atlanta being all over three.
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson visiting Baltimore. Really hmm, They've yet to get
Speaker 3: a deal done with Lamar Jackson, obviously, so that's intriguing.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Baltimore, we're gonna hear for ourselves a little
Speaker 3: bit later, but pac Man Jones, the latest NFL insider
Speaker 3: to rival Ian Rappaport and Adam Schefter, has news that
Speaker 3: there is a quote strong possibility that d Hop might
Speaker 3: go to Baltimore. Von Miller also has had something to
Speaker 3: say about d Hop. We'll get into that a little
Speaker 3: bit later. And then we got news this afternoon that
Speaker 3: the Niners have been in trade discussions with other teams
Speaker 3: around the league regarding Trey Lance because brock Perty apparently
Speaker 3: is the future with the San Francisco forty nine ers,
Speaker 3: and they are more than willing to engage trade talks
Speaker 3: on Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: Ron Wofully, Oh my goodness, Paul, can you imagine that
Speaker 1: right now? I feel so bad for Trey Lance. It
Speaker 1: wasn't his fault that the San Francisco forty nine Ers
Speaker 1: moved up to number three and actually gave up three
Speaker 1: number one picks to do that, Paul. It wasn't Trey
Speaker 1: Lance's fault that the forty nine ers and John Lynch
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan loved him so much that they gave
Speaker 1: up three number ones to move up. But Man Paul,
Speaker 1: that may go down as one one of the worst
Speaker 1: trades in the history of the National Football League.
Speaker 3: No doubt. And now there's all the news and noise
Speaker 3: out there about whether the Cardinals might somehow truly consider
Speaker 3: trading away Buddha Baker after Buddha Baker made it known
Speaker 3: that guess what, he either wants a new deal and
Speaker 3: or he wants out. Is that a possibility. Here's Ian
Speaker 3: Rappaport on the Pat McAfee show recently.
Speaker 6: I learned about the trade request over the last several days,
Speaker 6: but this has quietly been a reality for Arizona for
Speaker 6: much longer. Really wants a new deal, and I do
Speaker 6: not believe the Cardinals want to trade him, Like we
Speaker 6: don't plan to trade you. We want to keep you,
Speaker 6: and like he is, like he is the heartbeat of
Speaker 6: that defense. That's the guy you want to build around.
Speaker 6: You know, you don't want to use the second round
Speaker 6: pick to replace him. You want to build with him.
Speaker 6: So we'll see what happens. But I don't believe they
Speaker 6: want to trade him at all.
Speaker 3: And he is the heartbeat of that defense. He is
Speaker 3: the heart beat of the locker room. Everyone saw that
Speaker 3: for themselves hard Knocks this year, NFL Films documented that
Speaker 3: behind the scenes. Here's the reality. He has no guaranteed
Speaker 3: money left on his deal. Ron Wolfley, Buddha Baker has
Speaker 3: due thirteen million this year, fourteen million next year. Obviously
Speaker 3: he's handsomely paid, but he's the seventh highest paid safety
Speaker 3: in the league. And how many safeties can you see
Speaker 3: in this league are better than Buddha Baker Maybe Derwin James,
Speaker 3: Minka Fitzpatrick. I mean, you can count on one hand
Speaker 3: how many guys are in Buddha's class.
Speaker 1: Boy, This is really a tough situation right now, Paully,
Speaker 1: because if you're the Arizona Cardinals, you're not going to
Speaker 1: trade Buddha Baker. You're not going to trade him. This
Speaker 1: guy is a walking, talking model of what Jag wants
Speaker 1: inside that locker room. I don't see them trading him yet.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I'm willing to admit you've got
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker saying that he wants to be traded, he
Speaker 1: wants a new contract, or he wants to be traded.
Speaker 1: The two and just how resolute is Buddha Baker When
Speaker 1: it comes to that saying just how resolute is he?
Speaker 3: Paul, he has the same agent as Derwin James. Derwin
Speaker 3: James missed the first three weeks of Chargers camp last
Speaker 3: year a holdout, slash hold in, and then got a
Speaker 3: record breaking deal that averages about nineteen million per year.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if that's a potential game plan.
Speaker 3: Here's what I do know is the decision makers of
Speaker 3: the Cardinals truly value Buddha Baker. And here's a maniasin
Speaker 3: Fort had to say about Buddha at his introductory press conference.
Speaker 5: I was with the Patriots at the time and Buddha
Speaker 5: came in. We interviewed Buddha at the Combine for our
Speaker 5: twenty minute interview. After the end of that twenty minute interview,
Speaker 5: I think I was ready to run through a brick
Speaker 5: wall for Buddha Baker and Buddha Baker represents everything that
Speaker 5: we want this organization to be and I am excited
Speaker 5: to be on a team with him.
Speaker 3: Here's the question, does he want a new deal or
Speaker 3: does he want out? Yeah, I'm inclined to think he
Speaker 3: wants a new deal, that he wants to be paid
Speaker 3: close to a Derwin James, which is a big ask.
Speaker 3: Nineteen million per year. That's big money. Not as if
Speaker 3: he isn't already getting paid significant money thirteen this year,
Speaker 3: fourteen next year. Does he want some of that guaranteed somehow,
Speaker 3: some way. I'll just put it this way. There have
Speaker 3: been plenty of other Cardinals who have requested a trade
Speaker 3: in their cardinal careers and they were not accommodated, whether
Speaker 3: it was Patrick Peterson, Chandler Jones recently, Jordan Hicks played
Speaker 3: that final year after requesting your trade, Andy Isabella, and
Speaker 3: then Wolf We've been around long enough to remember at
Speaker 3: kwon Bolden. Yeah, so there is precedent of star players
Speaker 3: who want a deal, but guess what, they're considered too
Speaker 3: vital to the operation and at least not immediately or eminently.
Speaker 3: A deal is not going to be entertained by the
Speaker 3: front office.
Speaker 1: Right. And you know, even though Kyler Murray never asked
Speaker 1: to be traded, he did say, hey, listen, you know what,
Speaker 1: I want a brand new deal, and the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: didn't have to give him a new deal. Can I
Speaker 1: just say this, You've got a new regime in with
Speaker 1: mantiasen Fort. PAULI, you got a new regime with mantiasin
Speaker 1: Fort and Jonathan Gannon, of course, and that means to me,
Speaker 1: you've got a new opportunity to lay down a new
Speaker 1: set of rules that says we're going to be an organization.
Speaker 1: That's when we sign you to a long term contract.
Speaker 1: Don't come back in two years into that long term contract,
Speaker 1: maybe even three years into that long term contract, and
Speaker 1: say that you're underpaid. This is something that the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers do and have done with their best players. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, they set precedents of saying we're
Speaker 1: not going to do it. We're not going to renegotiate
Speaker 1: a contract with you once we signed you to a
Speaker 1: five six year contract. They did it with Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: and they did it with leve Bell. Would you say, Pauli,
Speaker 1: those two guys right there are good football or war
Speaker 1: good football players, all.
Speaker 3: Pro caliber players in their prime.
Speaker 1: Yes, some of the most talented players in their prime.
Speaker 1: And the Pittsburgh Steelers just let their guys know, look
Speaker 1: at once you sign this this long term contract and
Speaker 1: we give you guaranteed money upfront because you're signing that
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth year contract. Because you're doing that and
Speaker 1: we're giving you more guaranteed money upfront. Don't come back
Speaker 1: in three years or two years and say you're underpaid.
Speaker 1: And maybe the last year of your contract, we'll start
Speaker 1: talking about an extension. But not when you've got two
Speaker 1: or three years left on that contract. And I think
Speaker 1: Manti asin Fort and Jonathan Gannon and Michael Bidwell in
Speaker 1: the organization, they have a opportunity to set that precedent
Speaker 1: right here. The problem is it may cost them. Maybe
Speaker 1: the most popular player in the history of the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 3: And I get it to a degree. Jesse Bates just
Speaker 3: went from Cincinnati to Atlanta and he's averaging sixteen million
Speaker 3: per year. Jesse Bates ain't no Buddha Baker. I get it.
Speaker 3: Over the last four or five years, Buddha Baker's a
Speaker 3: leading tackler among all safeties. And it's not even close.
Speaker 3: Buddha Baker, who in a blowout playoff loss, had to
Speaker 3: be carted off the field in the fourth quarter. That's
Speaker 3: how hard he was playing, how he played through that
Speaker 3: high ankle spring. Buddha Baker who finished a game with
Speaker 3: a busted shoulder blade this year, right, So I get
Speaker 3: the sort of player is what he means to the team.
Speaker 3: He knows his value, so he's in his prime in
Speaker 3: age twenty seven. That's the way a business of football
Speaker 3: tends to work.
Speaker 1: Hey, Baulie, I'm just saying right now, you know I
Speaker 1: am for the player. But having said that, listen, you've
Speaker 1: got to set a precedent as well if you're an organization.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll talk draft when we come back. Who
Speaker 3: is it going to be? A number three? And beyond
Speaker 3: it's the big red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 7: Takes a shot back son when he's picked up the
Speaker 7: set up Christian Getzalas.
Speaker 3: This is a bigger, longer corner, dude.
Speaker 8: But why they are continuing to test him is beyond me.
Speaker 7: Right side and it's biped top again it's Christian Gonzales.
Speaker 7: Go the second intersection this code, find.
Speaker 3: Out where zero is and go the other way.
Speaker 7: M Christian good Zalas man, she had a great here.
Speaker 3: He has the size, he has the speed, he has
Speaker 3: the production and the pedigree plane at oregon six foot
Speaker 3: one and a half, one hundred ninety seven pounds. Christian
Speaker 3: Gonzalez the four, three, eight, forty, and he might be
Speaker 3: the first corner off the board. Could he be an
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinal by the end of next weekend? Think about
Speaker 3: the possibility Christian Gonzalez. Could he go to the Cardinals
Speaker 3: if they trade down to seven with the Raiders. Could
Speaker 3: he go to the Cardinals that they trade down to why,
Speaker 3: I don't know what Atlanta at eight. Could they be
Speaker 3: a member of the Cardinals that they trade with Tennessee
Speaker 3: at eleven? Or could he actually go to the Cardinals
Speaker 3: at number three overall? Maybe? Now I have your attention,
Speaker 3: Ron Wolfley on the Big Red Rage presented by santan
Speaker 3: Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul Kelvic, and
Speaker 3: this report out there Michael Lombardi, longtime NFL front office man.
Speaker 3: You're familiar with Michael Lombardi, former GM. He's on with
Speaker 3: Pat McAfee this past week and he says he does
Speaker 3: not believe that Houston will draft C. J. Stroud. This
Speaker 3: narrative is gathering steam. Ron Wolfley. In fact, he went
Speaker 3: on to say, Michael Lombardi, I'm quoting. I think teams
Speaker 3: are now starting to accept that Stroud is not going
Speaker 3: number two. So if Stroud doesn't go to, Will Anderson
Speaker 3: goes to and if for some reason teams have cooled
Speaker 3: on CJ. Stroud overall, maybe the Cardinals don't get that
Speaker 3: blockbuster trade offer at three, and if Will Anderson and
Speaker 3: is off the board, and I consider this a worst
Speaker 3: case scenario for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Wolf.
Speaker 3: So we'll start here and we'll work our way in
Speaker 3: reverse order. But what do you do if you're Mani
Speaker 3: ausin Ford in that situation. You're sitting at three and
Speaker 3: Will Anderson has already been taken a pick before by Houston.
Speaker 1: That's a great question right there, Pully. But can I
Speaker 1: just say right now that I'll believe all this draft
Speaker 1: supterfuge when it actually happens. Michael Lombardi, he was Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick's right hand man as a matter of fact, when
Speaker 1: I was there in Cleveland in nineteen ninety two and
Speaker 1: ninety three. And somebody's feeding him that information. Somebody is
Speaker 1: he might even be repeating that information to help a
Speaker 1: buddy in the industry, You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, let's see Nick Asario, the Texas JYM. Where did
Speaker 3: he work before that in New England?
Speaker 1: Hello, That's what I'm talking about Pully. So you never
Speaker 1: know about this stuff, whether it's true or not. I'll
Speaker 1: believe it when I actually see it. That CJ. Stroud
Speaker 1: suddenly is not coveted by some of these quarterback needy teams.
Speaker 1: I believe that they that he is. I believe there
Speaker 1: is still an awful lot of interest in CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe the Houston Texans love themselves a
Speaker 1: little Bryce Young. Maybe that is true, and because of that,
Speaker 1: they love Bryce Young, but they're not crazy about CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 1: So if the Panthers are gonna take Bryce Young number one,
Speaker 1: maybe they're letting people know that pick is gonna be
Speaker 1: for sale. If you give us a blockbuster deal right there,
Speaker 1: we'll trade out of there, or we'll just take Will Anderson.
Speaker 1: That to me, is not the worst thing that could
Speaker 1: happen to the Arizona Cardinals. It isn't Bully. I'd love
Speaker 1: to see the Cardinals get Will Anderson at number three.
Speaker 1: But if they had to trade out of that spot,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a truck low from somebody, somebody not
Speaker 1: named the Indianapolis Colts. They're gonna get an awful lot
Speaker 1: and because of that, it might not be the worst
Speaker 1: thing to happen to them.
Speaker 3: By the way, Bryce Young he canceled all visits after
Speaker 3: meeting with Carolina and Houston, so Bryce Young obviously not
Speaker 3: getting past number two and most likely going number one
Speaker 3: based on all the reports from the likes of an
Speaker 3: Adam Schefter who, by the way, this week on NFL Live,
Speaker 3: he commented on the possibility of Houston potentially passing on quarterback.
Speaker 4: What if the run on quarterbacks gets a little bit delayed,
Speaker 4: what if it's a little bit later to start then
Speaker 4: people thought, we've been hearing about quarterbacks going one, two, three, four,
Speaker 4: that's not gonna happen. I don't believe. And we've seen
Speaker 4: Carolina make them move up right away, right away for
Speaker 4: a quarterback at one, But we haven't seen anybody trade
Speaker 4: up to two when Houston's open to listening. We haven't
Speaker 4: seen anybody trade up to number three. Because you know what,
Speaker 4: I think, Indianapolis thinks there's a real chance right now
Speaker 4: that they could sit right where they aren't for and
Speaker 4: get potentially the second quarterback in this draft, or or.
Speaker 3: Or they could get the fourth quarterback in the draft.
Speaker 3: So are they willing to take that chance? We're talking
Speaker 3: about it. It's Indianapolis Colts team that has started a
Speaker 3: different quarterback each of the last seven season openers. Let
Speaker 3: that wash over you. If you're GM Chris Ballard and
Speaker 3: the owner Jimmersay, who's been openly tweeting, by the way,
Speaker 3: about getting a franchise quarterback in this draft, the thing is,
Speaker 3: are you going to get the guy that you truly
Speaker 3: cove it? And you're telling me that as CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 3: for example, there's a lot being made to the fact
Speaker 3: that CJ. Stroud apparently has the same agent as Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 3: And because there's scorched earth between Houston ownership and management
Speaker 3: and the agent for Deshaun Watson for obvious reasons, then
Speaker 3: that might be a deal breaker with CJ. Stroud. Now
Speaker 3: I'm not buying that whatsoever. Houston has done a heck
Speaker 3: of a job though, getting this narrative out there and
Speaker 3: making people bite on it and get it and maybe
Speaker 3: speak it into existence. So somebody makes someone off for
Speaker 3: a number two, I'm not sure exactly what their objective is.
Speaker 3: I do know that mel Kiper and Todd McShay, they
Speaker 3: just in the last forty eight hours combined on a
Speaker 3: mock draft and they had Bryce Young going one, c J.
Speaker 3: Stroud two, and then Will Anderson three to the Cardinals
Speaker 3: with Anthony Richardson going forward to Indy because of thinking
Speaker 3: is Shane Stike and he went and worked with Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 3: so he's gonna go with an Anthony Richardson to develop
Speaker 3: him with the Colts.
Speaker 1: Matt, I love all this, Polly. This is what it's
Speaker 1: all about. This is the best time of year. If
Speaker 1: you love being an armchair general manager right now and
Speaker 1: you're talking about drafts Upterfuge and the Houston Texans. Listen,
Speaker 1: if if the Texans wanted Bryce Young, and I believe
Speaker 1: this is the case. The Texans really love Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: They really like c J. Stroud, but they really loved Bryce.
Speaker 1: They were confident in him and totally committed that he
Speaker 1: was going to be the guy he was going to develop.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of intangibles that Bryce Young brings
Speaker 1: to the quarterback position. In tangibles like smarts and an
Speaker 1: innate feel instinct for the game. At the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: they're so rare to find guys like that. I believe
Speaker 1: they loved, they love Bryce Young, and now they know
Speaker 1: Bryce Young is going to be going to the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence. We're starting to hear
Speaker 1: this story now that hey, maybe that pick isn't going
Speaker 1: to be CJ. Stroud. Maybe they're going to put that
Speaker 1: pick up for sale, and that's exactly what they have done.
Speaker 1: And if you just like CJ. Stroud, like them a lot,
Speaker 1: but just like them, why wouldn't you do that. Why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you hang the for sales sign to see if
Speaker 1: you might be the team that actually gets a truckload.
Speaker 1: Instead of LOVINGJ. Stroud, you just like him. I think
Speaker 1: that's a real possibility as to what happened here, Paul.
Speaker 3: And that's one of the reasons why the reports were
Speaker 3: that love Smith was fired immediately when he came off
Speaker 3: the field Week eighteen, winning that final game with a
Speaker 3: two point conversion and costing them the number one pick. Overall,
Speaker 3: that love Smith was unceremoniously canned right away because they
Speaker 3: wanted themselves some Bryce Young and now most likely will
Speaker 3: not end up with that. Let me ask you this, Wolf,
Speaker 3: most of these mock drafts still have Jalen Carter going
Speaker 3: to the Seahawks. So if so the Cardinals will be
Speaker 3: looking to the possibility and going against Aaron Donald twice
Speaker 3: a year, Nick Bosa now Javon Hargrave twice a year,
Speaker 3: and Jalen Carter twice a year. If for some reason,
Speaker 3: Will Anderson has gone and the Cardinals are sitting there
Speaker 3: at three, do the Cardinals entertain taking Jalen Carter out
Speaker 3: of Georgia?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that is a great question, Paul.
Speaker 3: They need defensive line help something fierce.
Speaker 1: Paul, are you okay? I'll ask you, Paul, since you've
Speaker 1: got a strong opinion on this, what do you think,
Speaker 1: because I don't think they're going to touch Jalen Carter
Speaker 1: at number three? What do you think?
Speaker 3: Does the D and D line stand for dire need? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: But no, I agree there's too much. There's too much
Speaker 3: being put into the culture right now and the rebuild.
Speaker 3: From that perspective, there's too many off the field headlines
Speaker 3: over the last year and a half. I don't think
Speaker 3: you can risk a Jalen Carter, especially for a team
Speaker 3: that just recently experienced Robert Kiindichi, who was also arguably
Speaker 3: the most talented player in that draft pound for pound. Yes,
Speaker 3: it was a massive flame out and I also think
Speaker 3: that Seattle learned that the hard way Robert Condicci was
Speaker 3: with the Seahawks for a short cup of coffee. And
Speaker 3: they also once upon a time drafting Malik McDowell at
Speaker 3: Michigan State really high. So I'm very curious whether John
Speaker 3: Schneider and Pete Carroll whether they have an appetite for
Speaker 3: a Jalen Carter in their camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you know what, Polly, I think you're right
Speaker 1: about that. I think Seattle I could see them doing that.
Speaker 1: But for me right now, I don't see that being
Speaker 1: a possibility. For Monti Austin for it, I think he's
Speaker 1: looking for something a little bit more concrete. And that's
Speaker 1: why Will Anderson to me, at number three is still
Speaker 1: the front runner. And if the worst case scenario happens,
Speaker 1: where the Cardinals sit there at number three and they
Speaker 1: don't get what they want and they got to take
Speaker 1: will Anderson, I'm sold on that. Now. If you believe
Speaker 1: some of the rumors that Houston might actually take Will
Speaker 1: Anderson instead of drafting CJ. Stroud or trading that pick,
Speaker 1: they might just go ahead and draft Will Anderson at
Speaker 1: number two, I think that really kind of clears the
Speaker 1: picture up for MONTI assen for it in regard to
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do, and I think what he would
Speaker 1: do is trade down in that situation and maybe just
Speaker 1: gather a vivy of picks that would be impossible to
Speaker 1: turn down.
Speaker 3: By the way, Will Anderson update desk, he was on
Speaker 3: Good Morning Football this week, said he had a top
Speaker 3: thirty visit recently with Houston and Demiko ryans Uh. He
Speaker 3: was asked about the narrative that he's the safe pick,
Speaker 3: that if you want upside in this draft at his position,
Speaker 3: you go Tyree Wilson, or if you want a game
Speaker 3: wrecker on the defensive line, you go Jalen Carter, and
Speaker 3: his answer was, I'm not the safe pick. I'm the
Speaker 3: right pick. So let that hang out there.
Speaker 1: Lost ball to Oh my goodness. I just love that
Speaker 1: guy for the tangibles of course on the field in
Speaker 1: between the white lines, but also the intangibles that he
Speaker 1: brings the fact that I think he's going to be
Speaker 1: a transcendent player that makes his teammates around him better.
Speaker 3: Once again, Will Anderson visiting the Seahawks today. Reportedly, the
Speaker 3: Cardinals had in Nolan Smith on one of their top
Speaker 3: thirty visits. So there's that, and then C. J. Stroud
Speaker 3: visiting Atlanta. You know, Atlanta's been too quiet in this thing.
Speaker 3: You can't tell me that they're not thinking quarterback and
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Speaker 9: I asked Mini, I'm like, Money, what you doing with
Speaker 9: that pick? What you doing with that pick? He's like,
Speaker 9: you know what I'm doing with that pick? I don't
Speaker 9: know what you're doing with that pick. But a lot
Speaker 9: of flexibility I think that we have with that because
Speaker 9: of where we're at, and I know he's got all
Speaker 9: the different options, how he wants to do things, and
Speaker 9: what we're looking to get out of the certain options
Speaker 9: if he chooses to move out of it.
Speaker 3: There you go. Jonathan Gannon last month in the media.
Speaker 3: So let's focus on the middle of that sound bite
Speaker 3: where he's impersonating money Asinport, who supposedly retorts to JG,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm doing with that pick? Really has
Speaker 3: it already been decided? Has it already been dealt?
Speaker 8: Hmmm?
Speaker 3: Ye, PAULI big red rage presented by santan Ford and
Speaker 3: Gilbert That is the big red question out there, Ron Wolfley,
Speaker 3: what do you think is it? Is there still a
Speaker 3: decision to be made or has it already.
Speaker 1: Been Paulie, I honestly think that it already has been made.
Speaker 1: Having said that, though, what are they gonna do? Are
Speaker 1: they gonna actually pick at number three? Are they gonna
Speaker 1: trade down? You know what? Yeah, they'll get rid of
Speaker 1: the pick, They'll go to number four to the Colts,
Speaker 1: and they'll take will Anderson. This is what I think
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. Pack. I continue to say that's what
Speaker 1: I think is going to happen. Until it happens, I
Speaker 1: won't believe anything else.
Speaker 3: Hey, we found out later that the deal Hollywood browned
Speaker 3: the Cardinals for the Cardinals first round pick last year
Speaker 3: was a deal done early in the offseason January February
Speaker 3: between Steve Kim and Eric Tacosta. The Ravens's right, it's possible,
Speaker 3: it's plausible, it is feasible, and you really can't believe
Speaker 3: anything anyone says in these thirty two war rooms. I mean,
Speaker 3: here's my favorite of the week so far. Because most
Speaker 3: of the teams are doing these pre draft press conferences.
Speaker 3: Carolina's gim Scott Fitterer, who wants by a time spent
Speaker 3: time in Seattle John Schneider when they drafted Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3: So we get at the questions about Bryce Young and
Speaker 3: the size and all that, and he cited out Russell
Speaker 3: Wilson his senior year, Wisconsin only had three batted balls
Speaker 3: of the line of scrimmage all season. Bryce Young had two,
Speaker 3: So he doesn't make anything of the five foot ten statue.
Speaker 3: I thought was interesting when you think of Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: as well. But somebody asked him if he had asked
Speaker 3: his head coach, Frank Wright, who he prefers as the
Speaker 3: number one pick overall, and Fiterer told the media with
Speaker 3: a straight face, he still hasn't asked his head coach
Speaker 3: who he prefers in this draft.
Speaker 10: You, but come on, that's exactly what I'm talking about, though.
Speaker 10: That's exactly what I'm talking about right now. See to me,
Speaker 10: why would you ever give any aid, comfort or shelter
Speaker 10: to anyone else? Why would a general manager ever tell anybody.
Speaker 10: That's why when all these leaks come out, I question
Speaker 10: it immediately. I really do.
Speaker 1: Why would a general manager ever ever tell somebody something
Speaker 1: unless it was one false Why would you do that?
Speaker 1: Why would you ever want anyone to know what it
Speaker 1: is that you're doing. You wouldn't.
Speaker 3: All Right, So we go back to his introductory press
Speaker 3: conference the new gym Montiassin Ford, and let's listen to
Speaker 3: what he told the media on just you know his
Speaker 3: main focus in team building.
Speaker 5: We're going to institute a thorough and exhaustive scouting process.
Speaker 5: We are going to turn over every stone to find
Speaker 5: the right players for this team. We are not just
Speaker 5: collecting talent. We're going to build a team. We're going
Speaker 5: to look for the right type of players. Ego will
Speaker 5: not be tolerated in this organization. We are going to
Speaker 5: look for focused, driven, and people that are willing to
Speaker 5: put the team first at every step of the way.
Speaker 3: I would say, when you look at the Cardinals free
Speaker 3: agent signings, the Kaiser Whites, you know Zach Pascal, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: these sort of guys who aren't just position players, they're ballers.
Speaker 3: They're football players that are physical, They have that sort
Speaker 3: of attitude. I would say what Mani just explained. There
Speaker 3: is introductory press conference. He has spoken to existence with
Speaker 3: a lot, if not most of his free agent signings. Now,
Speaker 3: the challenge, right Ron Wolfley, is to do that in
Speaker 3: the draft because these are college players, yeah, who have
Speaker 3: been coached up in the interviews at the combine for example.
Speaker 3: They don't have a proven NFL track record like some
Speaker 3: of these free agents you signed, most of whom, by
Speaker 3: the way, Cardinals assistant coaches had already worked with it
Speaker 3: other teams, so they had that interaction and that personal
Speaker 3: knowledge is said players. So there's where the margin of
Speaker 3: eric can get extreme because you're really projecting onto these
Speaker 3: college players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you are, Pauli. There's no doubt. Every team, though,
Speaker 1: is made up of talent, paul and toughness. And that's
Speaker 1: what your team is made up, the percentage of talent
Speaker 1: you have on your team and toughness. And a lot
Speaker 1: of times there are players that combine both, Paulie, they
Speaker 1: combine that talent and the toughness. And when you find
Speaker 1: guys like that, that's when you bring them into the fold.
Speaker 1: That's when you go out and you identify them as
Speaker 1: free agents you want to bring them into your locker room,
Speaker 1: some guys that have been around, some veterans. You want
Speaker 1: to bring those guys in, and you want to draft
Speaker 1: those guys as well, guys that have that toughness, that
Speaker 1: mentality already down. But you need talent as well, Paully,
Speaker 1: and that's always the difficulty if you're a general manager.
Speaker 1: What percentage is talent that's inside that locker room and
Speaker 1: what percentage is toughness In the combination, they're off.
Speaker 3: And don't think the head coach doesn't value both. He
Speaker 3: knows from a first hand experience, not only as a
Speaker 3: coach but as a former scout. So when JG joked
Speaker 3: earlier about pestering maniasin Fort, you know about the pick
Speaker 3: and what he's going to do exactly. You know they
Speaker 3: can have some pretty advanced, in depth discussions. Because Jonathan
Speaker 3: Gannon has been part of a personnel room back before
Speaker 3: he got into coaching full time, and he was asked
Speaker 3: just about his confidence in Manteasin Ford's plans.
Speaker 8: You know, the conversation every day, money, every day that
Speaker 8: we have about that is good and he's not going
Speaker 8: to make a move without having We've talked through the
Speaker 8: pros and cons of that, but I feel very confident
Speaker 8: with a couple different plans that he's laid forth, and
Speaker 8: I'm behind him one hundred percent. I know he's going
Speaker 8: to do whatever he can in his role to help
Speaker 8: our group win.
Speaker 3: So let's it zoom out beyond number three overall. You know,
Speaker 3: we've talked about that exhaustibly, right and we're still not
Speaker 3: exactly sure what's going to take place when you come
Speaker 3: out of this draft. Right now, the Cardinals have eight picks.
Speaker 3: I fully expect them to have a number of more
Speaker 3: picks in this one. Whether it's a trade out at
Speaker 3: number three, whether it's a trade a d hop, which
Speaker 3: we'll get to here shortly, whether I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: something out of left field, Isaiah Simmons is dealt before
Speaker 3: they have to pick up his fifth year contract option,
Speaker 3: or at least make that decision. Whatever, I think the
Speaker 3: Cardinals end up with more than eight rookies, what position
Speaker 3: groups would you like to see them address first and
Speaker 3: foremost beyond number three overall?
Speaker 1: Oh, paully. For me, right now, it's still the offensive
Speaker 1: and defensive line, the line of scrimmage. I've been talking
Speaker 1: about it all off season. Of course, you know, That's
Speaker 1: where I think this continued rebuild needs to happen right
Speaker 1: now on the line of scrimmage. Whether you're talking about
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman, this is where
Speaker 1: I think I want to see them start. How about you, Paul,
Speaker 1: what's your take on that.
Speaker 3: Well, there's no question you need defensive tackles. You just
Speaker 3: lost JJ Watt and you lost Zach Allen. That has
Speaker 3: to be addressed. I think a top round two that
Speaker 3: might be the option. The place where you do that.
Speaker 3: Cornerback would be great, and I think it's in your
Speaker 3: top three needs, but offensive and defensive line is first
Speaker 3: and foremost. I also believe a lot of the noise
Speaker 3: out there about Cardinals getting a receiver at least on
Speaker 3: Day two.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For example, that Kuiper and mcshae combo mock draft has
Speaker 3: the Cardinals at number sixty six atop the third round
Speaker 3: going for Tennessee receiver Cedric Tillman, who hasn't got a
Speaker 3: lot of run this year because he only played a
Speaker 3: handful of games. He had a high ankle sprain and
Speaker 3: really ruined his senior season, But as a junior at Tennessee,
Speaker 3: he had a breakout year he's six ' three, he
Speaker 3: runs a four five four forty, had twelve touchdown catches
Speaker 3: at Tennessee's two best games. Arguably we're against Bama and Georgia,
Speaker 3: so there's a lot I can see them doing that.
Speaker 3: A bigger receiver. Yeah, Quinton Johnston out of tc just.
Speaker 1: Gonna say that ball. I was just gonna say Quentin
Speaker 1: Johnston out of TCU right now. With the size he's got.
Speaker 1: He's six three over six three and a two hundred
Speaker 1: ten pound guy. I mean that is a big wide
Speaker 1: receiver right there, and he's got wheels ball. He's got
Speaker 1: some speed as well over the top, and that's one
Speaker 1: thing I think they're gonna need. Even with Hollywood Brown.
Speaker 1: As fast as Hollywood Brown is, we know he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of verticality in terms of height. So
Speaker 1: I think that is something that could possibly be around
Speaker 1: on day two right there. I'm with you on that pall,
Speaker 1: But still I want to see them focus on the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. And
Speaker 1: if they happen to do that and rebuild the offense
Speaker 1: and defensive line, that's where this team needs to improve
Speaker 1: I think the.
Speaker 3: Most, and specifically center. What are they gonna do at center?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Is there a veteran center that they bring in that
Speaker 3: they their eye on that they're gonna execute after the draft?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Pauly like Ryan Kelly. Yeah, like Ryan Kelly
Speaker 1: or Indianapolis Golds okay.
Speaker 3: Or even a Ben Jones from Tennessee who was let
Speaker 3: go and MANTIASA. Ford has that sort of knowledge of him. Now, look,
Speaker 3: cornerback is really loaded in this draft. You could get
Speaker 3: a viable starting cornerback a top round three that's from
Speaker 3: most accounts. And you know, the sleeper position is still
Speaker 3: tight end. To me, it's a really deep draft and
Speaker 3: tight end and if you get more picks, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be surprised if they went that direction. All right. If
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Speaker 3: day issues. Next on the big red rage in the
Speaker 3: middle of the finger that bulls into the plate. Wow
Speaker 3: Off covers the helmet of the attendant.
Speaker 1: Receiver as he gets crushed back there by Pat Tillman.
Speaker 1: Pat Tilman.
Speaker 10: The blade pass goes to Hayes and he gets hammered again.
Speaker 3: By Pat Tillman throws for Mickens.
Speaker 1: He hates the Pats at the thirty and gets blasted
Speaker 1: by Pat Tillman out of the thirty.
Speaker 3: One, but he gets a first down. That's what Tilman
Speaker 3: is all about.
Speaker 1: Runningham winds up and throws it down a bit locked
Speaker 1: the way in complete at the forty seven yard line,
Speaker 1: Pat Tilman knocks it away.
Speaker 10: Patt and Tilman talk about a guy with a lot
Speaker 10: of heart.
Speaker 3: He just challenged the rock.
Speaker 1: And the guy, the fastest guy in the field that
Speaker 1: Tilman came up the winner.
Speaker 3: I like that two hundred and twenty sixth overall. That
Speaker 3: was the draft position Pat Tillman on this day, nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety eight, former seventh round pick of the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 3: Ron Mopefully. It's almost a rhetorical question as a seventh
Speaker 3: round NFL draft pick ever made an impact not only
Speaker 3: in the game but on this country like Pat Tillman.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Paully. What's amazing about Pat is
Speaker 1: he was never a man that was defined by his
Speaker 1: number or numbers. Numbers cannot define Pat Tillman. Only the
Speaker 1: human spirit can actually look at Pat and understand what
Speaker 1: he was all about.
Speaker 3: Incredible pac ten defensive Player of the Year at Arizona State.
Speaker 3: As fans around here many of them know, and he
Speaker 3: was considered a tweener. So he fell. He fell in
Speaker 3: the draft. He was a linebacker who was going to
Speaker 3: have to be converted to safety, and we all know
Speaker 3: what he did to make that first team. Cardinals went
Speaker 3: to the playoffs, won their first playoff game in almost
Speaker 3: fifty years with Pat Tillman as a rookie on that team,
Speaker 3: along with Jake Plummer and company. So you know, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: I saw another story, as we say, welcome back into
Speaker 3: this edition of The Big Red Rage, presented by santan
Speaker 3: Ford and Gilbert We are Santane Ford. Former New England
Speaker 3: decision maker Scott Pioli is on the NFL new work.
Speaker 3: He told a story recently Wolf. When he was in
Speaker 3: a personnel office, they used to keep a frame photo
Speaker 3: on their desks of two thousand New England draft pick
Speaker 3: in year two thousand and fifth round tight end Dave Stakelski.
Speaker 3: Do you know what do you know? Do you know
Speaker 3: why they had a frame photo of Dave Stakelski.
Speaker 1: I don't, boy.
Speaker 3: He was he was taken one round ahead of Tom
Speaker 3: Brady by New England, and it was a reminder to
Speaker 3: the front office that you're not as smart as you
Speaker 3: think you are because they took Steve Stokelski ahead of
Speaker 3: Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Polly. It's one of the great things about the game
Speaker 1: of football, it really is. You cannot measure a person's heart.
Speaker 1: You can see it on tape, you can watch it.
Speaker 1: And I think this is what is happening in the
Speaker 1: NFL though. I think you're you're starting to see it
Speaker 1: come back once again, not so much on the the
Speaker 1: the numbers at the combine, not so much the measurables,
Speaker 1: but coming back to a player on tape. Think about it,
Speaker 1: that Pat Tillman two hundred and twenty sixth overall, and
Speaker 1: when you watch Pat Tillman play the game of football,
Speaker 1: even at ASU, you watch him play, you knew there
Speaker 1: was something special in this kid. You could see it
Speaker 1: on tape. Now the emphasis is coming back to that
Speaker 1: once again. Paully and Pat will once again never be
Speaker 1: defined by numbers.
Speaker 3: All right, So look, there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff happening between now and the Draft twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: and whether that includes DeAndre Hopkins remains to be seen,
Speaker 3: but it won't be for a lack of chatter and
Speaker 3: noise out there. How about NFL insider pac Man Jones
Speaker 3: on the Pat McAfee show. He's had some things to
Speaker 3: say and report, and this week included here's pac Man
Speaker 3: on de Hop.
Speaker 10: Our source says have said that there's a chance d
Speaker 10: Hop still ends up in Bothwell.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, that's what I was supposed to say.
Speaker 3: Is is the strongle possibility? Strong?
Speaker 1: Really? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Strong possibility?
Speaker 2: That's an update.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, go ahead, AJ, that's breaking this strong possibility?
Speaker 1: Whoa is this strong possibility to mean that Lamar is
Speaker 1: probably going to be their pack? I can't speak on it.
Speaker 2: I'm just my sortis sizz It's a strong possibility.
Speaker 1: It is a strong possibility right here. You know why
Speaker 1: I know that, Polly, because it's West Virginia's West virgin Look, no,
Speaker 1: if pac Man says that it's happening.
Speaker 3: So you're telling me that Baltimore is going to go
Speaker 3: from having arguably the worst receiver room in the league
Speaker 3: to signing obj to fifteen million guaranteed worth up to
Speaker 3: maybe eighteen million, and then meeting the price on a
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins who's not gonna come cheap and those I mean,
Speaker 3: you know they're all in for Lamar Jackson if they
Speaker 3: end up signing those two receivers and trying to entice
Speaker 3: their quarterback into a long term deal.
Speaker 1: No, I think you're right about that, Paully. I don't
Speaker 1: think the Baltimore Ravens are expecting Lamar Jackson to go anywhere, Paul.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have the franchise tag. They have it
Speaker 1: on him. Now. It's the non exclusive, of course, but
Speaker 1: they've got the franchise tag and he's going to play
Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens or he's not going to get paid.
Speaker 1: He's not going to get any money. I think there's
Speaker 1: going to be some type of resolution here, and maybe
Speaker 1: they're trying to talk a little bit of sense into
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson if they go out and do get d
Speaker 1: Hop or promise to get d Hop.
Speaker 3: So another NFL insider, Von Miller, he went on the
Speaker 3: Pat mcabee show this week and he said the Bills
Speaker 3: are going to be adding another big time weapon. Those
Speaker 3: are his words. He didn't name names there, but earlier
Speaker 3: forty eight hours earlier to the Buffalo News, he said
Speaker 3: that I talked to Hop all the time. Apparently they
Speaker 3: work out together as well. And according to Von Miller quote,
Speaker 3: Hop said he wanted to be a Buffalo Bill ha ha.
Speaker 3: And I mentioned that because you might have seen the
Speaker 3: Brian McFadden video podcast that Hop appeared on and on
Speaker 3: video without saying anything. Brian mcfahnen said, you know what,
Speaker 3: used facial expressions to tell us whether you'd like to
Speaker 3: play for a certain team or not anything.
Speaker 1: I saw it.
Speaker 3: He threw out four possibilities. So when he said Chiefs
Speaker 3: and Bills, d Hops smiled and nodded accordingly. And when
Speaker 3: he brought up the Jets and Patriots, it was sort
Speaker 3: of what the kids would say, eh right, yeah, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: I saw that as well, and that was not lost
Speaker 1: on me, the fact that it was the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills, because you know what, Paul, logically,
Speaker 1: that makes the most sense. It does. You got two
Speaker 1: teams that are super Bowl caliber, obviously the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: You have two teams that are super Bowl caliber, super
Speaker 1: Bowl ready right now. And because of that, d Hop
Speaker 1: would would make them the favorite. If if the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs to sign d Hop, they'd be the favorites
Speaker 1: once again to win the Super Bowl, Paul, if it
Speaker 1: was the other way around, you know, now, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the Bills might be the favorites to come
Speaker 1: out of the AFC and win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: See, and that restores my faith that the Cardinals are
Speaker 3: going to get value for DeAndre Hopkins. All these narratives
Speaker 3: out there put out by a lot of the teams
Speaker 3: maybe who are pursuing DeAndre Hopkins, that he's only worth
Speaker 3: a fifth or sixth round pick. No, I think there
Speaker 3: will be two teams, especially the Chiefs and the Bills,
Speaker 3: who value a DeAndre Hopkins to the point where they're
Speaker 3: gonna pay him his number or at least something reasonably
Speaker 3: close right, and give the Cardinals significant compensation. And by
Speaker 3: the way, I'm still not ruling out the Jets going
Speaker 3: after him. They need a receiver. Patriots I think are
Speaker 3: truly interested. And then what about Tennessee and even the Giants.
Speaker 3: I think there are more than two teams who are
Speaker 3: gonna seriously pursue d hop up until the draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Polly, I'm not saying you're wrong, but
Speaker 1: whenever you bring up the Patriots and no Nuke in
Speaker 1: the fact that he does not like to practice. I
Speaker 1: just I will never see Bill Belichick agreeing to bring
Speaker 1: a guy onto a team that is telling him I'm
Speaker 1: not going to practice on Wednesday. I just don't see
Speaker 1: that under any circumstance right now. But d Hop is
Speaker 1: going to be traded at some point in time. The
Speaker 1: ultimate pressure point of the offseason is coming up in
Speaker 1: the form of the NFL Draft, and that is next week.
Speaker 3: And by the way, d Hop not long after that
Speaker 3: video podcast tweeted out and I quote Hopkins doesn't want
Speaker 3: to raise signed nuke, so he went third person in
Speaker 3: his own tweet, and then not long after that he
Speaker 3: deleted the tweet. So I'm like, is that sort of
Speaker 3: the social media version of back in nineteen ninety three
Speaker 3: when Charles Barkley once claimed that he was misquoted in
Speaker 3: his own autobiography. I don't know, but it was hop
Speaker 3: being hop on that front.
Speaker 1: You know what, Paul, honestly right now, he is a
Speaker 1: game changer. He is He is still a wide receiver
Speaker 1: one in my opinion, Yes, I understand he's getting a
Speaker 1: little long in the tooth. I get that, but there
Speaker 1: have been many many receivers his age that have been very,
Speaker 1: very productive in the National Football League, and DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: is just one of those guys. He's got all the
Speaker 1: tools you could possibly want from a wide receiver to
Speaker 1: be a wide receiver. One. Yes, he's not the fastest guy,
Speaker 1: I get that, but all he does is run by
Speaker 1: people and catch deep passes down the field that are contested.
Speaker 1: He's d hop, He's still got a ton of value.
Speaker 3: So when Jonathan Gannon said recently in response to reporters
Speaker 3: question that everything is a competition, quote end quote, the
Speaker 3: Cardinals need a competition for d Hop multiple teams. They
Speaker 3: need a competition for that number three pick overall. And
Speaker 3: if sol Man eight picks could to eight or maybe
Speaker 3: even twelve picks come the draft, and the Cardinals might
Speaker 3: truly be able to hit the reset button here in
Speaker 3: this offseason. Ron Wolfleel Paul Calvic special thanks as always
Speaker 3: to Jim Almahundro and Mitch Barreldis. This has been the
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