WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - What's In The Cards During Draft? 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.240 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:06.480 He got jacked. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:11.360 This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:12.040 in Gilbert. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.480 Mary's gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by Buddha 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.880 Baker Like a torpedo. He came flying into the back field. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.400 The rage is brought to you by santan Ford in Gilbert. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:29.760 Are you santan Ford State Farm? Talk to an agent 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:35.440 today at eight hundred State Farm? Hand by Arizona Cardinals podcast. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.640 Visit Hazycardinals dot Com, slash podcasts. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.920 Red scenes rising up. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.480 Temperaturizing vision, flurry, rage taking over. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.560 Here's Paul Calvic. I'mready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.239 telling you abready. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:53.920 And Ron wolf Sleep. 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:55.880 It doesn't get any better than that. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:01.480 U leash the fjord, Ron Wolfley. I have a question. 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:08.280 Are you familiar with the NFL name Sonny Weaver Junior? 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:10.000 Yes? 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:11.160 You are? 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.560 Yes, He's a scout, isn't he someone? 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.400 Sonny Weaver Junior is the fictional character Kevin Costner played 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:23.360 in the Draft Day movie twenty fourteen. He was the 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.480 GM Sonny Weaver Junior. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.319 That's why I know it. Paul, there you go, I 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:34.280 was right about it, but it's make believe. I guess technically. 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.679 You've already defied the critics. Wolf. You actually had somewhat 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:40.320 of a knowledge or notion of who Sonny Weaver Junior was. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.920 Is He had a saying in the movie and the 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:47.640 quote went something like this, Okay, Sonny Weaver Junior in 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.880 that movie like to say, the great ones always find 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.320 a way to slow things down. He liked to say 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.400 that in the war room. And I throw that out 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.400 there because not only are we getting close to the 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.040 NFL Draft, but I I'm here to say that I 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.720 do believe over the next ten days, two weeks, there 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:08.200 will be change, a lot of change at lightning pace 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.239 at times. And so the great ones find a way 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.280 to slow things down, not unlike Joe Montana and the 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.760 Clutch with a super Bowl on the line and make 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.720 those sort of decisions, those sort of game breaking plays 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.720 Patrick Mahomes in this last super Bowl just a couple 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.280 of months ago here in the az So who can 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.480 slow things down and make those money decisions in the 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.480 Clutch when oh, I don't know, you're on the clock, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:33.880 or you got to figure out if you want to 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.079 make a franchise changing trade. It is all part of 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.520 our discussion here tonight on the Big Red Rage presented 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.160 by santan Ford and Gilbert we Are. Santane Ford, Paul 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.000 I would say this that the great ones know how 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:50.440 to mess things up. Okay, I mean mess things up 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.839 in terms of what is it you think we're going 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:53.200 to do. 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.200 What is it you think we're going to do? You 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.680 think we're going to do this? We're going to do 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:03.560 the exact op This is this is right now the 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.600 height of draft subterfuge. I've been talking about it for 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.280 a couple of weeks, but this is it right now. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:14.400 There is misinformation, and there is disinformation, and disinformation is 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:18.120 the wanton, wilful desire to mislead Paully. Do you think 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.120 there are general managers that are out there right now 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.880 that are trying to mislead other gms as to what 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:25.720 they're going to do? 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.720 Are you seeing the Houston Texans, for example, have Davis 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.280 Mills and Kyle Allen as their two quarterbacks right now. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.720 They have the number two pick overall, and we're supposed 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.119 to believe they're not going quarterback at number two. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.320 Ding Ding Ding. I think we have a winner. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.680 Okay, so there's an example, and we're going to get 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.200 into all this couple of headlines from today. Here we go, Wolf. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.320 According to the Insiders, guess who has been visiting the 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:56.320 Cardinals today. Nolan Smith, Georgia linebacker with the ridiculous athleticism 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.160 six two, two thirty eight, the guy who ran the 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.119 four three nine forty at the Common. Nolan Smith has 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:06.480 reportedly been visiting with the Cardinals today. Will Anderson has 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:11.800 been visiting with the Seahawks. CJ. Stroud has been visiting 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.760 with Atlanta. If CJ. Stroud is still on the board 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.640 of number three, do you think Atlanta might trade up 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.360 with the Cardinals at number three? 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.200 Oh, PAULI I think anything is possible. Are you kidding 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.800 me right now? Yes, I could see the Atlanta Falcons 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.320 looking at a CJ. Stroud and just drooling all over 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.520 the place. Once again, there's a couple of scenarios, and 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.320 I know we're going to talk about this in more detail, 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.200 so I don't want to get too far down that 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.960 rabbit hole right now, but yes, to answer your question, 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.440 I could see Atlanta being all over three. 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:45.320 Anthony Richardson visiting Baltimore. Really hmm, They've yet to get 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:49.640 a deal done with Lamar Jackson, obviously, so that's intriguing. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.400 Speaking of Baltimore, we're gonna hear for ourselves a little 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.080 bit later, but pac Man Jones, the latest NFL insider 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.840 to rival Ian Rappaport and Adam Schefter, has news that 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:05.000 there is a quote strong possibility that d Hop might 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:10.080 go to Baltimore. Von Miller also has had something to 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.160 say about d Hop. We'll get into that a little 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.040 bit later. And then we got news this afternoon that 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.200 the Niners have been in trade discussions with other teams 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:23.520 around the league regarding Trey Lance because brock Perty apparently 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.320 is the future with the San Francisco forty nine ers, 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.040 and they are more than willing to engage trade talks 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:30.960 on Trey Lance. 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.000 Ron Wofully, Oh my goodness, Paul, can you imagine that 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.000 right now? I feel so bad for Trey Lance. It 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.440 wasn't his fault that the San Francisco forty nine Ers 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.400 moved up to number three and actually gave up three 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.160 number one picks to do that, Paul. It wasn't Trey 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.560 Lance's fault that the forty nine ers and John Lynch 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.719 and Kyle Shanahan loved him so much that they gave 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.040 up three number ones to move up. But Man Paul, 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.720 that may go down as one one of the worst 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.039 trades in the history of the National Football League. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.320 No doubt. And now there's all the news and noise 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:12.680 out there about whether the Cardinals might somehow truly consider 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:18.000 trading away Buddha Baker after Buddha Baker made it known 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.120 that guess what, he either wants a new deal and 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:25.080 or he wants out. Is that a possibility. Here's Ian 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.880 Rappaport on the Pat McAfee show recently. 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.400 I learned about the trade request over the last several days, 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.440 but this has quietly been a reality for Arizona for 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:39.520 much longer. Really wants a new deal, and I do 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.479 not believe the Cardinals want to trade him, Like we 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.480 don't plan to trade you. We want to keep you, 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.680 and like he is, like he is the heartbeat of 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.080 that defense. That's the guy you want to build around. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:51.720 You know, you don't want to use the second round 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.600 pick to replace him. You want to build with him. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.080 So we'll see what happens. But I don't believe they 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:57.520 want to trade him at all. 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.680 And he is the heartbeat of that defense. He is 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.960 the heart beat of the locker room. Everyone saw that 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.800 for themselves hard Knocks this year, NFL Films documented that 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.080 behind the scenes. Here's the reality. He has no guaranteed 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.360 money left on his deal. Ron Wolfley, Buddha Baker has 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:15.320 due thirteen million this year, fourteen million next year. Obviously 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.200 he's handsomely paid, but he's the seventh highest paid safety 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.360 in the league. And how many safeties can you see 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.160 in this league are better than Buddha Baker Maybe Derwin James, 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.760 Minka Fitzpatrick. I mean, you can count on one hand 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.520 how many guys are in Buddha's class. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.440 Boy, This is really a tough situation right now, Paully, 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.640 because if you're the Arizona Cardinals, you're not going to 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.840 trade Buddha Baker. You're not going to trade him. This 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:46.080 guy is a walking, talking model of what Jag wants 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.880 inside that locker room. I don't see them trading him yet. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.920 At the same time, I'm willing to admit you've got 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.640 Buddha Baker saying that he wants to be traded, he 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.280 wants a new contract, or he wants to be traded. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:05.000 The two and just how resolute is Buddha Baker When 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.080 it comes to that saying just how resolute is he? 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:12.800 Paul, he has the same agent as Derwin James. Derwin 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.680 James missed the first three weeks of Chargers camp last 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.840 year a holdout, slash hold in, and then got a 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.760 record breaking deal that averages about nineteen million per year. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.960 So I don't know if that's a potential game plan. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.480 Here's what I do know is the decision makers of 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.440 the Cardinals truly value Buddha Baker. And here's a maniasin 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.640 Fort had to say about Buddha at his introductory press conference. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.320 I was with the Patriots at the time and Buddha 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.280 came in. We interviewed Buddha at the Combine for our 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.040 twenty minute interview. After the end of that twenty minute interview, 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.320 I think I was ready to run through a brick 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:50.760 wall for Buddha Baker and Buddha Baker represents everything that 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.240 we want this organization to be and I am excited 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:55.320 to be on a team with him. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.800 Here's the question, does he want a new deal or 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.560 does he want out? Yeah, I'm inclined to think he 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.520 wants a new deal, that he wants to be paid 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.600 close to a Derwin James, which is a big ask. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.240 Nineteen million per year. That's big money. Not as if 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.080 he isn't already getting paid significant money thirteen this year, 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.319 fourteen next year. Does he want some of that guaranteed somehow, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.440 some way. I'll just put it this way. There have 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.240 been plenty of other Cardinals who have requested a trade 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.760 in their cardinal careers and they were not accommodated, whether 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:31.800 it was Patrick Peterson, Chandler Jones recently, Jordan Hicks played 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.040 that final year after requesting your trade, Andy Isabella, and 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.000 then Wolf We've been around long enough to remember at 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:41.840 kwon Bolden. Yeah, so there is precedent of star players 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.679 who want a deal, but guess what, they're considered too 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:48.160 vital to the operation and at least not immediately or eminently. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.440 A deal is not going to be entertained by the 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:51.199 front office. 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:55.640 Right. And you know, even though Kyler Murray never asked 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.600 to be traded, he did say, hey, listen, you know what, 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.080 I want a brand new deal, and the Arizona Cardinals 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.560 didn't have to give him a new deal. Can I 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.160 just say this, You've got a new regime in with 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.559 mantiasen Fort. PAULI, you got a new regime with mantiasin 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.400 Fort and Jonathan Gannon, of course, and that means to me, 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.840 you've got a new opportunity to lay down a new 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.479 set of rules that says we're going to be an organization. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.280 That's when we sign you to a long term contract. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:29.400 Don't come back in two years into that long term contract, 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.600 maybe even three years into that long term contract, and 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.120 say that you're underpaid. This is something that the Pittsburgh 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:40.400 Steelers do and have done with their best players. As 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.840 a matter of fact, they set precedents of saying we're 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.920 not going to do it. We're not going to renegotiate 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.760 a contract with you once we signed you to a 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.880 five six year contract. They did it with Antonio Brown 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.760 and they did it with leve Bell. Would you say, Pauli, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.960 those two guys right there are good football or war 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.160 good football players, all. 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:03.520 Pro caliber players in their prime. 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.000 Yes, some of the most talented players in their prime. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.200 And the Pittsburgh Steelers just let their guys know, look 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.640 at once you sign this this long term contract and 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:19.000 we give you guaranteed money upfront because you're signing that 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.400 fourth and fifth year contract. Because you're doing that and 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.400 we're giving you more guaranteed money upfront. Don't come back 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.040 in three years or two years and say you're underpaid. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.720 And maybe the last year of your contract, we'll start 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.160 talking about an extension. But not when you've got two 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.200 or three years left on that contract. And I think 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:45.600 Manti asin Fort and Jonathan Gannon and Michael Bidwell in 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:50.319 the organization, they have a opportunity to set that precedent 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.440 right here. The problem is it may cost them. Maybe 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:59.560 the most popular player in the history of the Arizona Cardinals. 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.160 And I get it to a degree. Jesse Bates just 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.040 went from Cincinnati to Atlanta and he's averaging sixteen million 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.440 per year. Jesse Bates ain't no Buddha Baker. I get it. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.280 Over the last four or five years, Buddha Baker's a 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.440 leading tackler among all safeties. And it's not even close. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.680 Buddha Baker, who in a blowout playoff loss, had to 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.559 be carted off the field in the fourth quarter. That's 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.280 how hard he was playing, how he played through that 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.160 high ankle spring. Buddha Baker who finished a game with 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.840 a busted shoulder blade this year, right, So I get 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.240 the sort of player is what he means to the team. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.640 He knows his value, so he's in his prime in 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.160 age twenty seven. That's the way a business of football 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:41.280 tends to work. 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.439 Hey, Baulie, I'm just saying right now, you know I 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.520 am for the player. But having said that, listen, you've 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.479 got to set a precedent as well if you're an organization. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.480 All right, we'll talk draft when we come back. Who 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.200 is it going to be? A number three? And beyond 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:00.440 it's the big red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.559 Takes a shot back son when he's picked up the 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.160 set up Christian Getzalas. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.960 This is a bigger, longer corner, dude. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.520 But why they are continuing to test him is beyond me. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:20.800 Right side and it's biped top again it's Christian Gonzales. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.719 Go the second intersection this code, find. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.920 Out where zero is and go the other way. 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.560 M Christian good Zalas man, she had a great here. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.319 He has the size, he has the speed, he has 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:43.320 the production and the pedigree plane at oregon six foot 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.760 one and a half, one hundred ninety seven pounds. Christian 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:50.360 Gonzalez the four, three, eight, forty, and he might be 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.240 the first corner off the board. Could he be an 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:57.080 Arizona Cardinal by the end of next weekend? Think about 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.280 the possibility Christian Gonzalez. Could he go to the Cardinals 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.280 if they trade down to seven with the Raiders. Could 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.080 he go to the Cardinals that they trade down to why, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.600 I don't know what Atlanta at eight. Could they be 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:08.760 a member of the Cardinals that they trade with Tennessee 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.079 at eleven? Or could he actually go to the Cardinals 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:16.320 at number three overall? Maybe? Now I have your attention, 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.840 Ron Wolfley on the Big Red Rage presented by santan 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.720 Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul Kelvic, and 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:27.440 this report out there Michael Lombardi, longtime NFL front office man. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.560 You're familiar with Michael Lombardi, former GM. He's on with 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.400 Pat McAfee this past week and he says he does 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:37.400 not believe that Houston will draft C. J. Stroud. This 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.400 narrative is gathering steam. Ron Wolfley. In fact, he went 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.760 on to say, Michael Lombardi, I'm quoting. I think teams 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.080 are now starting to accept that Stroud is not going 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.960 number two. So if Stroud doesn't go to, Will Anderson 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.040 goes to and if for some reason teams have cooled 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:57.160 on CJ. Stroud overall, maybe the Cardinals don't get that 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.120 blockbuster trade offer at three, and if Will Anderson and 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.840 is off the board, and I consider this a worst 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.520 case scenario for the Arizona Cardinals. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:04.760 Wolf. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.680 So we'll start here and we'll work our way in 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.680 reverse order. But what do you do if you're Mani 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.600 ausin Ford in that situation. You're sitting at three and 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.480 Will Anderson has already been taken a pick before by Houston. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.080 That's a great question right there, Pully. But can I 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.320 just say right now that I'll believe all this draft 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:29.080 supterfuge when it actually happens. Michael Lombardi, he was Bill 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.920 Belichick's right hand man as a matter of fact, when 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.880 I was there in Cleveland in nineteen ninety two and 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.800 ninety three. And somebody's feeding him that information. Somebody is 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:43.560 he might even be repeating that information to help a 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.520 buddy in the industry, You know what I mean. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.280 Well, let's see Nick Asario, the Texas JYM. Where did 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.760 he work before that in New England? 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.120 Hello, That's what I'm talking about Pully. So you never 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.560 know about this stuff, whether it's true or not. I'll 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.080 believe it when I actually see it. That CJ. Stroud 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:07.440 suddenly is not coveted by some of these quarterback needy teams. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:12.320 I believe that they that he is. I believe there 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.640 is still an awful lot of interest in CJ. Stroud. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:20.640 I don't know. Maybe the Houston Texans love themselves a 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.760 little Bryce Young. Maybe that is true, and because of that, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.280 they love Bryce Young, but they're not crazy about CJ. Stroud. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.040 So if the Panthers are gonna take Bryce Young number one, 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.640 maybe they're letting people know that pick is gonna be 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.640 for sale. If you give us a blockbuster deal right there, 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.200 we'll trade out of there, or we'll just take Will Anderson. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.160 That to me, is not the worst thing that could 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.880 happen to the Arizona Cardinals. It isn't Bully. I'd love 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.160 to see the Cardinals get Will Anderson at number three. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:57.640 But if they had to trade out of that spot, 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:02.640 they're gonna get a truck low from somebody, somebody not 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.360 named the Indianapolis Colts. They're gonna get an awful lot 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.560 and because of that, it might not be the worst 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:09.520 thing to happen to them. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.760 By the way, Bryce Young he canceled all visits after 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.800 meeting with Carolina and Houston, so Bryce Young obviously not 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.360 getting past number two and most likely going number one 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.760 based on all the reports from the likes of an 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.840 Adam Schefter who, by the way, this week on NFL Live, 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:29.119 he commented on the possibility of Houston potentially passing on quarterback. 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.960 What if the run on quarterbacks gets a little bit delayed, 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.919 what if it's a little bit later to start then 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:42.000 people thought, we've been hearing about quarterbacks going one, two, three, four, 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.800 that's not gonna happen. I don't believe. And we've seen 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:49.399 Carolina make them move up right away, right away for 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.080 a quarterback at one, But we haven't seen anybody trade 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.200 up to two when Houston's open to listening. We haven't 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.840 seen anybody trade up to number three. Because you know what, 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.400 I think, Indianapolis thinks there's a real chance right now 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.320 that they could sit right where they aren't for and 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:12.920 get potentially the second quarterback in this draft, or or. 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.320 Or they could get the fourth quarterback in the draft. 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.800 So are they willing to take that chance? We're talking 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.280 about it. It's Indianapolis Colts team that has started a 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:24.360 different quarterback each of the last seven season openers. Let 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.840 that wash over you. If you're GM Chris Ballard and 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.480 the owner Jimmersay, who's been openly tweeting, by the way, 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.440 about getting a franchise quarterback in this draft, the thing is, 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.600 are you going to get the guy that you truly 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.359 cove it? And you're telling me that as CJ. Stroud, 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.200 for example, there's a lot being made to the fact 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.680 that CJ. Stroud apparently has the same agent as Deshaun Watson, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:47.160 And because there's scorched earth between Houston ownership and management 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.960 and the agent for Deshaun Watson for obvious reasons, then 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.320 that might be a deal breaker with CJ. Stroud. Now 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.400 I'm not buying that whatsoever. Houston has done a heck 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.280 of a job though, getting this narrative out there and 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.760 making people bite on it and get it and maybe 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.320 speak it into existence. So somebody makes someone off for 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.479 a number two, I'm not sure exactly what their objective is. 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.280 I do know that mel Kiper and Todd McShay, they 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.240 just in the last forty eight hours combined on a 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.159 mock draft and they had Bryce Young going one, c J. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.360 Stroud two, and then Will Anderson three to the Cardinals 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.800 with Anthony Richardson going forward to Indy because of thinking 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.119 is Shane Stike and he went and worked with Jalen Hurts, 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.439 so he's gonna go with an Anthony Richardson to develop 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:30.280 him with the Colts. 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.480 Matt, I love all this, Polly. This is what it's 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:37.480 all about. This is the best time of year. If 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.399 you love being an armchair general manager right now and 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.800 you're talking about drafts Upterfuge and the Houston Texans. Listen, 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:50.000 if if the Texans wanted Bryce Young, and I believe 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:54.240 this is the case. The Texans really love Bryce Young. 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:59.960 They really like c J. Stroud, but they really loved Bryce. 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:04.200 They were confident in him and totally committed that he 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.160 was going to be the guy he was going to develop. 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.760 There were a lot of intangibles that Bryce Young brings 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.640 to the quarterback position. In tangibles like smarts and an 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:20.240 innate feel instinct for the game. At the quarterback position, 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:24.640 they're so rare to find guys like that. I believe 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.760 they loved, they love Bryce Young, and now they know 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.679 Bryce Young is going to be going to the Carolina Panthers. 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.880 I don't think it's a coincidence. We're starting to hear 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:38.080 this story now that hey, maybe that pick isn't going 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.560 to be CJ. Stroud. Maybe they're going to put that 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:45.080 pick up for sale, and that's exactly what they have done. 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:49.119 And if you just like CJ. Stroud, like them a lot, 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.360 but just like them, why wouldn't you do that. Why 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.360 wouldn't you hang the for sales sign to see if 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.520 you might be the team that actually gets a truckload. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.720 Instead of LOVINGJ. Stroud, you just like him. I think 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.600 that's a real possibility as to what happened here, Paul. 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:08.840 And that's one of the reasons why the reports were 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.680 that love Smith was fired immediately when he came off 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.119 the field Week eighteen, winning that final game with a 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.639 two point conversion and costing them the number one pick. Overall, 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.199 that love Smith was unceremoniously canned right away because they 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.760 wanted themselves some Bryce Young and now most likely will 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.320 not end up with that. Let me ask you this, Wolf, 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.480 most of these mock drafts still have Jalen Carter going 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.840 to the Seahawks. So if so the Cardinals will be 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.119 looking to the possibility and going against Aaron Donald twice 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.360 a year, Nick Bosa now Javon Hargrave twice a year, 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.760 and Jalen Carter twice a year. If for some reason, 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.119 Will Anderson has gone and the Cardinals are sitting there 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.800 at three, do the Cardinals entertain taking Jalen Carter out 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:48.520 of Georgia? 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.160 Oh boy, that is a great question, Paul. 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.959 They need defensive line help something fierce. 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.640 Paul, are you okay? I'll ask you, Paul, since you've 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.800 got a strong opinion on this, what do you think, 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.200 because I don't think they're going to touch Jalen Carter 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:04.640 at number three? What do you think? 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.679