1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson show. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: On your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollie. 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: He has met Williamson and uh well, it's a beautiful 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 3: Wednesday here in Pittsburgh and getting used to saying that 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: now at this point, like saying beautiful days here in Pittsburgh. Steelers, 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: Uh well, making some making some roster moves here, Matt. 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 3: We talked about, you know, them meeting with Kauant Alexander. 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 3: That has not gone anywhere at this point. I've been 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 3: asked about that a bunch of worse. What what's going 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: on with cot Alexander? Just because a guy comes in 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: to visit doesn't mean they're gonna sign him right right, 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: you could be just kicking the tires seeing how it goes. 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: How healthy is this guy too? 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: Right, especially for you know, a guy who's been around 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: the league for eight or nine years. But the Steelers 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: did make a couple moves announcing the signing of Mason 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: Rudolph to a one year contract. That's something that you 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: and I kicked around a couple of different times. Also, 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: Luke Barku cornerback and Hikeem Butler wide receiver. Both of 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: those guys had been in the XFL, but both have played, 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: but they've had more than a cup of coffee in 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: the NFL. 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Butler, Well, let's start with Barko because he was 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: a name I didn't know until this morning, so I 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: did a little bit of thumbnail scouting on him. He's 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: six to one, he's one ninety five. He was an 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: All Pro for the XFL. He was one of the 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: best corners in that league. This past year. His head 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: coach is heinz Ward. Coincidentally, you know, and I saw 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: something and I can't verify this, but I'm regurgitating this 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: information that heinz Ward's defense played the most pressed man 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: coverage and the most single high safety in the entire XFL, Which, folks, 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: we say this all the time. Teams tell you what 36 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: they think how they want to play going forward. They're 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: getting pressman coverage corners and they're gonna play a lot 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: of single high I mean, that's what the Steelers do, 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: even though the league is going the opposite direction. 40 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know you so fans might look at that, go, well, 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: if everybody else is doing this, Why are you doing that? 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: Because then you're harder to play again, You're not the norms. 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, two years ago and nobody was running the football, 44 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: but the you know, the the Browns and the raven Oh, 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: look look at how they run the football. Everybody else 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: is throwing the ball. 47 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: Okay. 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: You know when the Steelers were playing their three four defense, 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: you know, back in the day, and they were one 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: of like four teams doing it. Yeah, you know, it 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: made it so much easier for you in the draft 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: to go. You know, hey, you get Joey Porter in 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: the third round. He get you know, Jason Gilden the 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: third round. You don't got to take those guys, you know. 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: So you know, it's all about zigging when everybody else 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: is zagging just because well, hey, everybody's you know, everybody 57 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: offensively is doing what the Rams do. 58 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Now, well they were and now they're not. Now they're not. 59 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 2: So let me extrapolate on that. I mean, the defense 60 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: that's sweeping the nation is the Vic Fangio too high 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: gap and a half up front, and that's great, and 62 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: nobody wants to give up the big play. I mean, 63 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: that's the theme here is don't allow big plays, make 64 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: them matriculate them all down the field. And the Chiefs 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: and Bengals are the best examples ever. You know, they 66 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: were big play teams, huge play teams, especially the Chiefs. 67 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: Two years ago, Tyreek Hill bombs away. Well, they took 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill out of the equation and Mahomes learned how 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: to dink and dunk, and Burrow did too in a 70 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: very Brady like manner, making great quarterbacks even greater. They 71 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: added another club to their bag. So of course the 72 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: Steelers also do that. You know, teams do both with folks. 73 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like we just play man every snap, 74 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: we play zone every snap. I mean these are thirty 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: percent verse forty five percent. I mean it's ten plays 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: a game difference than other teams. 77 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: The difference, though, man is if you're a pressman cornerback, 78 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: yeah you can play zone coverage. If you are a 79 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: zone cornerback, you really can't play pressman coverage. 80 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: And say it's much harder to find man coverage corners. 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: I say this all the time. One of the first 82 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: things I was taught with the Browns watch every stap 83 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: of college man coverage for receivers and corners because there's 84 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: not many of them out there that do it, especially 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: at the college level. But this is why you pay 86 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: make if it's Patrick, because if you have Ed Reid, 87 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: if you have Earl Thomas, if you make if Fitzpatrick, 88 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: you can get away with a lot less too high 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: shelves and put someone near the box or blitz somebody, 90 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: you know. So if you have an elite single high safety, 91 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: let them play single high, you know what I mean. 92 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're paying again. It goes back to we got 93 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: red paint. We're gonna paint to barn red, right, all right. 94 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: We have a great player. He allows That's why his 95 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: contrast's good, because he allows the other eleven to do 96 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: another ten to do more, you know, like I always 97 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: talk about, like in that Tampa or that Seattle cover three, 98 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: Earl Thomas is really a hockey goalie. You know, if 99 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: you have a great hockey goalie, your defenseman can be 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: a little more aggressive offensively. You know, Paul Coffee can 101 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: go skate up up the ice and be a offensive 102 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: weapon because if he gets beat, well, my great goalie 103 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: might bail me out, you know. And I think that's Mika, 104 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 2: that's Earl, that's ed you know, I mean, and that's 105 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: really valuable. And it's not like man coverage has gone away. 106 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: It's just more situational now. And the situations are the 107 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: high the highest downs, yeah, downs, red zone, you know, 108 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: that type of thing. But if you can do it 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: on first and ten, that's an advantage of other teams 110 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: don't have. 111 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Well. 112 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: And the other thing is if you have a really 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: good pass rush, you can you can do it that 114 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: you can play more man, right and you know, because 115 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: your guys, the quarterback has to get rid of the 116 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: football quicker. Well, if you're playing nothing but zone coverage, 117 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: the quarterback's just gonna sit there and throw five yard 118 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: outs all day long, right right, screens like that, you're 119 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: gonna come up and you're gonna make the tackle when 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: you know, great, fantastic. But if I'm playing, if I'm 121 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: playing fresh man and I've got corners that can get 122 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: up in the in the opposing opponent's face and keep 123 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: them from getting off a line of scrimmage or disrupt 124 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 3: their route timing, I'm gonna get to the quarterback a more. 125 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: And b I'm the quarterback isn't. 126 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: Gonna know where to go with football, Like we're gonna 127 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: get more interceptions, tip passes, things of that nature because 128 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks getting rid of the football before he. 129 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: Wants to it, before anybody's open. 130 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're disrupting the timing of routes. You're 131 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: beating up receivers at the line of scrimmage. You know 132 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: that they know blitz is coming or they can't block PJ. 133 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: Watt and Cam Hayward even with the four or man rush, 134 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: so they're getting the ball out of their hands in two 135 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: point four seconds. Well, that's harder to do with a 136 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: corner at the line of scrimmage. And of course at 137 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: least things compliment one another. That I also as the corner. 138 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: I can't even the great ones. I can't play man 139 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: coverage for three point five seconds, you know the past 140 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: get home to. 141 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: Help me, you know well, And the rules are set 142 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: up against it being able to do that. 143 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the reality of it. You can't. 144 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: It's impossible in today's NFL, with the rules the way 145 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: they are, with illegal contact rules, to play coverage for 146 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: three point five or four seconds. 147 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: You can't do it. You can't do it. 148 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: And you actually there's a shortage of man coverage corners. 149 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: I mean, there aren't many that come into the league 150 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: every year. 151 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: The other part of the equation is, so if I 152 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: start looking at some of the teams to beat in 153 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: the AFC, and we'll just look at the AFC, what 154 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: you know outside of Cincinnati, which has multi to very 155 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: good receivers. Yeah, who's the receiver. Who the receivers with 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: Kansas City that scare you Kelsey? 157 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: They got one. Who are the receivers with the Bills 158 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: that scare you? Digs? They got one. 159 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: They're hoping they drafted their second five, right, meaning Kincaid. 160 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: But he's gonna be a rookie tight end. So if 161 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: I look around the Okay, the Dolphins have two good receivers. 162 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: They do. 163 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: But if I can match up, if I could take 164 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: if I could take Waddle out of the game with 165 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: with a cornerback, then I can double Tyreek HM and 166 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: vice versa. So if I can if I'm playing the 167 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 3: Bills and I can double, you know, I can give 168 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: give help over the top against Digs, but my other 169 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: cornerback is completely taking you know, gave Davis out of 170 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: the game. 171 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: That's a win for me. 172 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: Like and and so you know these press man cover 173 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: corners again, if I you know, Gabe Davis is a 174 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 3: deep threat, that's what he is. He's not going to 175 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: catch eight passes for fifty eight yards against you. 176 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: He's not gonna Nickel and Dimia Day. 177 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not gonna happen, you know, kind of the 178 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: same way with some of the guys that the Chiefs 179 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: have always had, and then Nicole Harbman's. 180 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: And guys like that. 181 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: They're not going to catch six passes against you. You 182 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: just have to keep them in check until your pass 183 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: rush gets home. 184 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Diggs will have eight for one twenty 185 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: you know, and hurts you time again, just a style 186 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: of receiver. So I know, we want to talk about 187 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: Rudolph and Butler too, because I think they're very noteworthy 188 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: additions as well as we often do we go down 189 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: an alley and historical. 190 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, we started this off by talking about Luke Barkhu, 191 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: who's and to your point, Matt, I mean, if you 192 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: start looking at that cornerback room, they're all big guys 193 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: who are pressing in corner, all of them. 194 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: They're all big, right exactly, They're all length, they're all 195 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: of height. You know, why's my let gone? 196 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: Well? 197 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: You look like the rest of them either, you know, 198 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: I mean, right Weatherspoon Weatherspoon is you know, on his 199 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: way out apparently too, and that he was. 200 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 3: Probably i mean, the expense part of that was. I'm 201 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: sure there was some some money factor to that. Yeah, 202 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: you could get you can pick up four million dollars 203 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: by letting him go. 204 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that might go to a linebacker, ed rusher 205 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: or who knows, you know, I mean, or you know, 206 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: Rudolph or whomever. So that that's made sense all along. 207 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: It was a crowded room. But you added another guy. 208 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: I mean, if Barku Barkoo to me is in the 209 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: throwaway camp body, I'm excited to see him. Maybe he 210 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: even makes a team. But he's six to one and 211 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: he plays tons of pressman coverage. That's where we were 212 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: going with this, you know, right right him up. I 213 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: wonder not the divulged secrets. You know we're gonna be 214 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: at O Ta's. Of course, we're going to be a 215 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: training camp. I wonder, are we gonna see a lot 216 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: of one on ones of porter versus pickings right in 217 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: his grill? 218 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: You know, Oh, I guarantee you're going to see that 219 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: for us, right like that that's a Mike Tomlin staple 220 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: to beget. 221 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, when you when you bring in. 222 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 3: A high profile guy, you're gonna you're gonna se Keanu 223 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: Benton probably do a lot of pass rushers against Broderick Jones, 224 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,479 Speaker 3: even though Keano is really a nose tackle, but they're 225 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: gonna look at him as an end as well. And 226 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: you're gonna see some one on ones. 227 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: With those guys. Yeah, Okay, here here's our two pie 228 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,479 Speaker 1: pedigree guys. Go at it. 229 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: And if one of them starts winning consistently, Okay, now 230 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: go gonch Cam Heyward. 231 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they now go against you know, chuks 232 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: or whatever. You you'll take a step up in class. 233 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: Hey, Ardie Burns, welcome to the league. You can cover 234 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: ab all practice. Yeah, Like, we saw a lot of 235 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Where I was going, is I mean, 236 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: of course we'll see that, and of course we'll put 237 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: good on good and pedigree on pedigree. Souse, You're dead on. 238 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: Tomlin does that all the time. But I bet we 239 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: see even more practice reps of cornerback X just getting 240 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: his hands at the line of scrimmage, beating up on receivers, 241 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: which is good for the receivers too. They don't get 242 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: a lot of reps of a verse man in practice 243 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: in most you know NFL cities there. 244 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, I think that's there's definitely something Again, 245 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: as you always say, teams tell you what they're thinking 246 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: with the moves that they make. Well, I mean, every 247 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 3: cornerback they've every cornerback they've acquired this offseason has to 248 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: be big enough to ride to ride. 249 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: And they're man heavy guys. You know, they're not off 250 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: dude zone guys, you know, and they're not bashful about 251 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: tackling or being physical. 252 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: So let's talk now about Butler talking about a guy 253 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: who was a former fourth round draft pick out of 254 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: Iowa State in twenty twenty or twenty was it twenty No, 255 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 3: it wasn't twenty twenty, it. 256 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: Was twenty nineteen. I'm sorry. So fourth round draft pick 257 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: had some pedigree there. 258 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 3: He had a broken hand that caused him to get 259 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: released by the Cardinals who originally drafted him. Went to 260 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: the Eagles as a tight end, right, and then I 261 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: switched since switched back to being. 262 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: A wide receiver, but a big body wide receiver. 263 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: Yes, another theme. I mean I actually wrote an article 264 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: about this two weeks ago that every addition they've made 265 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: is a big body guy. You know, Peterson's big, Salomallo 266 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: is big. I mean everyone has been big enough to 267 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: ride the ride. As he said, they all can ride 268 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 2: the thunderbolt. And this is another example. So I love 269 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: this signing. And I don't know if he'll make the team. 270 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: Who the heck knows? I mean, you gone for nothing. 271 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: He was either my favorite or second favorite wide receiver 272 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: in that draft. But like, I love this player. I 273 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: thought he was gonna go late first early two. Didn't 274 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: run great and frankly was not a good NFL player. 275 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: I was wrong, you know. I mean he had he 276 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: had trouble separating, but he was a big slot. He's 277 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: very physical. His heights aras college tape was impressive. Again, 278 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: He's beating people at the catch point. He's plucking the 279 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: ball over their heads, going over the middle, shrugging off tacklers. 280 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,239 Speaker 2: Just not super explosive, super fast, and struggled to get separations. 281 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: So he tried to invent himself as Evan Ingram. You know, 282 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: but yeah, blocker and I mean so he kind of 283 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: was neither. 284 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: Right. 285 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: So he goes to the XFL catches fifty one passes 286 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: for five hundred and ninety nine yards and eight touchdowns. 287 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 3: Certainly that's a step down in competition, right, but again, 288 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: this costs you nothing, and. 289 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: You want to see him dominate, of course, and he 290 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: looked like he did and he was one of the 291 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: best receivers in that league. 292 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, nothing ventured, nothing gained. You know, you 293 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: bring him in. And I know people were asking last week, 294 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: I thought he was signing and he's going to come 295 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: in for a rookie tryout. Well, he and Barkou were 296 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: in the same boat. The XFL guys couldn't sign until 297 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: that season. 298 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Was officially over. Oh okay, which happened on Which happened 299 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday. 300 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: So they weren't eligible to sign with an NFL team 301 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,119 Speaker 3: until the fifteenth. 302 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so let me still have talks with them apparently 303 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: or rumors or whatever. 304 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they agree, you know, you have you talk 305 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: to the agent. 306 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure as soon as those seasons were over for 307 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: a lot of those guys, you know, the teams are 308 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: calling their agents and saying, hey, we'd like to bring 309 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: him in. 310 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: But again, couldn't do that until the XFL season was 311 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: officially over. Which it now is so. 312 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: Okay, And you would think those guys are in football 313 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: shape compared to even NFL counterparts. I mean, they've been playing, 314 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: and you know they're they're going to come in, you know, 315 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: jump on the be there ready and in a role 316 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: when all these guys too are going to be ridiculously hungry, 317 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I'm sure Butler as a draft 318 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: prospect thought, I mean, I'm speaking for the guy. I'm 319 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: gonna make a team. I'm a pretty highly sought after guy. Wow, 320 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: i fell a little more in the draft, but I'll 321 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: still make this team. And then all of a sudden, 322 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: you're scrambling and you know, in desperation mode. 323 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you take a job, and you know, 324 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: in the XFL you reinvent yourself a little bit, you 325 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: regain a little traction in your career, and you're still 326 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: a young guy. 327 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: So Butler, I'm not saying he's chasing Cleaypool or Robinson, 328 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: but I think it's also pretty apparent that they want 329 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: a big slot. You know, I think that I don't 330 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: think Butler is going to go line up on the 331 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: outside against pressman coverage and win a lot. But if 332 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: you put him in the slot. It's kind of a 333 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: move guy, a blocker. He will throw his weight around. 334 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: I think that's what they're looking for from their slot receiver, 335 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: you know. And they did that with Claypool, you know. 336 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: I mean, and I think that's what Alan Robinson's. 337 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: Biggest role is going to be. Yeah. Absolutely. 338 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: So that brings us now to Mason Rudolph, and I 339 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: see no downside whatsoever to sign him. 340 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: Re Signing Mason Rudolph is your number three. In fact, it. 341 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: Makes all the sense in the world. You're not paying 342 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: him what you paid him last year. You know, I'm 343 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: sure this is a veteran minimum deal. He's got experience, 344 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: he's got experience in your system. He's he's the most 345 00:16:54,240 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: experienced guy in your system. And he's your number three. Like, right, 346 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: you know, I where's where's the downside this? I see 347 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: people killing them for this. I'm like, are you nuts 348 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: you'd rather go into it? 349 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: Did you? Did you not watch the NFC Championship game 350 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: last year? Right? 351 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: But right? Or sixty nine starting quarterbacks in the league, 352 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: or go ask the Rams or Panthers or somebod these 353 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: teams that went through four. You know, they would have 354 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: killed for Mason Rudolph in November, you know, I mean, 355 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: not even like as late as the NFC Championship game. 356 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, but you know, I know people also say, well, 357 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: nobody else signed him, So that doesn't mean he didn't 358 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: have nobody else talk. 359 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: To him, all right, or even had offers or what. 360 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: Teddy Bridgewater is still sitting out there. You could what 361 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: the way this happens. It happens very you know, kind 362 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: of the way the things did with trell Emans last year. 363 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: You go into an off season with a set price, 364 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: and I'm looking for a multi year deal and teams 365 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 3: start calling you. 366 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: He said, no, I want a multi year deal. Well 367 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: we're not gonna we're not offering a multi year deal. 368 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 3: Well then I'm not interested at this time, and they 369 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: go sign somebody else, right right right, And then the 370 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: next next thing, you know, everybody signed, and you're like, okay, 371 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 3: well I guess I will accept a one year deal. 372 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: And then he gets. 373 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: Signed, and I'm sure, and I know we're gonna get 374 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: to this at some point. I bet Mason did not 375 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: want to be a three. You know, I'm speaking for him, 376 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: of course, but I bet he looked at this saying 377 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: I'm a backup at least all day long. I don't 378 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: want to accept a role as a three, but there's 379 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: some value to I know this system. Hey, I do 380 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: know I'm the three here. I mean, Mitch is going 381 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 2: to be the two, Kenny's gonna be the one. I'm 382 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: aware of all this stuff. 383 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: I know. 384 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: I don't even know if there's any guarantees that like. So, 385 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: for example, in twenty nineteen, Rudolph went to campus the 386 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: number three behind Landry Jones. Okay, well he played better 387 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: than Landry Jones, who was a more established guy, and 388 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: so he beat him out. There's no guarantee that that 389 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: Mitch Trubisky's the number is automatically the number two. Now 390 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: we think that's what's going to happen because of his 391 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: starting experience. But if Mason Rudolph comes in and lights 392 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: the world on fire and outplays him in the preseason, 393 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: yeah it could. 394 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you're always competing. 395 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: That's just that's just you know, you know you're not 396 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: You're not competing for number one, because that's that's I'm 397 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: not just gonna say Kenny Picketts an established guy, but 398 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: he's gonna get every opportunity because he's a former first 399 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: round draft pick, and he finished last year as a starter. 400 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: But those backup roles, those things change all the time, 401 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: they do. 402 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: I was comparing it, I guess more to last year, 403 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: where the pecking order wasn't nearly as clear. 404 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's more clear. 405 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, But you know, for example, so Montrevius 406 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: Adams replaces Tyson and Luilu a few games into this 407 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 3: into the season last year in the pecking order at 408 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: nose tackle. 409 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Those things happen, and they usually happen organically. 410 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 2: True, Absolutely true, But I mean, I'm I'm sure the 411 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: conversation was, Mason would love to have you back. As 412 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: it stands right now, you're the three. 413 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna, yeah, you're gonna start his number three. 414 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: We'll give you an opportunity to be number two, like 415 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: I bet. 416 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: He gets a lot of preseason snaps though too. 417 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And first and foremost, you're gonna you're gonna 418 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: you're gonna compete against Tanner Morgan for the for the 419 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: number three job. You know, we we feel pretty confident 420 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: that you'll be number three, and we'll give you a 421 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: chance to get some second team snaps. And who knows, 422 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: I mean, Mitch is only here for this year, as 423 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: are you. 424 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: If things go well, we could resign you. 425 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: As is the number two next year, where if somebody 426 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: else offers you a better deal, wants to give you 427 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: an opportunity to start, you know, so be it. But 428 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 3: you know those things, none of that stuff has ever 429 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: written in stone, especially for backup jobs. 430 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, not great news for Tanner Morgan. No, no, that's 431 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: for certain. Yeah, he's gonna get kind of the way 432 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: licon treatment. I have a feeling this year maybe gets 433 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: more reps. 434 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: He probably gets a few more because again, you know, 435 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: you kind of know what Mason is. You know at 436 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: this point what Trubisky is. You're gonna give pick it 437 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: as many snaps as you can in camp this year. 438 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 1: M hm. 439 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: And maybe you know, you let Tanner Morgan go out 440 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: and play the second half of the last preseason game. 441 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. 442 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, But there's also ratifications. I mean there's also well, 443 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: if Kirk Cousins gets hurt or whoever sears, might get 444 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: some calls, you know, like you have assets there now, 445 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: you know, like yeah. 446 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: You know I've seen some stuff about that. 447 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 3: Well, the Steelers, you know, they could trade Mason or 448 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: they could trade Mitch Trubisky now since they've resigned Mason. 449 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: Real what you don't do it just to do it? 450 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: No, right, right, right, right, like no, you know, having 451 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: having this kind of quarterback depth is very. 452 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: Nice, very nice. 453 00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 454 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: You don't just give it away. 455 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: Mitch is on the market now, he's got to go 456 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: get him out of here, you know, save the cap space. 457 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: I don't think that at all. I just think that 458 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: you'll be one of the first team's teams call whenever 459 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: their rookie doesn't look good or their starter goes down 460 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: or whatever. There's a lot of tape of Rudolph and Trubisky. 461 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: I would think Tribisky's more of the target if you're 462 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 2: that type of team. That's now all of a sudden. 463 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: Steelers might have said in the offseason, now you can 464 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: have Mitch for a fourth, but no one's biting. But 465 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: now it's like, wow, you can have for third. 466 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: You know what, We're not gonna We're not gonna give 467 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: him away, but you know, if you want him. And again, 468 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: as you mentioned previously, sixty nine starting quarterbacks in the 469 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: league last year. Yeah, you know, so let's let's talk 470 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: about that in the next segment here, Matt, let's let's 471 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: go over the quarterback depth charts around the league and 472 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: figure out where the Steelers room ranks in that in 473 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: that hierarchy. And when I say room, I mean the 474 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: entire room. I'm not just just judging the starter because 475 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: I think it's I think quarterback rooms especially go much 476 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 3: much deeper than that, because it's just such an important position. 477 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: So Hey, you can now listen to Steelers Nation Radio 478 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 3: anytime anywhere through your smart speaker. Just say Alexa, play 479 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio from my heart, and Alexa will take 480 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: care of the rest. He is Matt Williamson. I am 481 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 3: Dale Lallie. You're listening to the Driver here on Steelers 482 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 3: Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this