WEBVTT - I Wanna Be Bootsy, Too!

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, Elizabeth Dutton in here, Saron Burnett's name and joking

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<v Speaker 2>around McGee.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, I was hanging in here with the new

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<v Speaker 3>new intern Rosie.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh god, don't don't move quickly in front

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<v Speaker 2>of her.

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<v Speaker 3>No kind of she is.

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<v Speaker 4>She's buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm glad you're here because that'll distract your a

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<v Speaker 3>little from my hands. So I got a question for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>do you know what's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 4>I do? I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of covering some road. I've already covered Pokemon, Pokemon.

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<v Speaker 3>Pokemon, Oh yeah, yeah, Pokemon.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've also talked about Cheetos before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes you have, I have two of your great lovestional mashup. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a Cheeto that looks like Pokemon Charizard

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, and yeah it looks like Charizard, which I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose it does.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Flaming hot ones flaming hot jar.

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<v Speaker 4>So I guess everyone was like, oh my god, this

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<v Speaker 4>looks like good Pokemon.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this first in Goal Collectibles got a hold

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<v Speaker 2>of it sometime between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>They're being cagy about it. And they they fixed it

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<v Speaker 2>to a customized Pokemon card encapsulated in a clear card

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<v Speaker 2>storage box.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh those are the best kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then it you know, it surged in popularity

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<v Speaker 2>on social media platforms in late twenty twenty four. According

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody, oh the auction site anyway, it went up

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<v Speaker 2>for auction.

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<v Speaker 4>It just sold. The bidder bid seventy two thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't And then with the buyer's.

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<v Speaker 2>Premium it goes up to eighty seven and forty dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for a Pokemon Cheeto Cheeto card in a nice collectible case. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that one, I think it came from maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of people, But the one that was forwarded to

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<v Speaker 2>me was from Monica on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you Monica.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Monica. Well that's a good one. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 3>that and Monica. But you know what else is ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>I got something for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Please please tell me when you.

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<v Speaker 3>Look like someone famous? Yeah, why not have fun with it?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>It's all fun and games, well right up until you

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<v Speaker 3>decide to get criminally ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure is ziggy.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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<v Speaker 3>and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent ridiculous. Yeah, I know you feel me

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<v Speaker 3>on that, Elizabeth. You also love a good story like

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<v Speaker 3>me about criminal celebrity lookalikes.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, Oh, completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, they're always fun. Well, boys, howdy do I have

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<v Speaker 3>some fun ones for you today?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, really, it's anyway you'll see. It's it's a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of them. But they're all kind of it's simple. They're

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<v Speaker 3>related to well, I don't want to ruin it. First up,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to tell you about a woman who was

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<v Speaker 3>hired to perform in Sorry noam Okay, that's fun. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not common. That's like worth taking a trip right now.

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<v Speaker 3>The woman's name is Trina Johnson Finn, and the story goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Trina was a career backup singer, the kind you find

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<v Speaker 3>in Las Vegas, right, that's where she was working in

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<v Speaker 3>before her adventure in Surry nom Now. Over the years,

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<v Speaker 3>she'd performed like with Barbara streisand as a backup singer.

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<v Speaker 3>She toured with EMPs Hammer for five years.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a singer and a dancer, more.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a backup singer. Okay, now, She had her own

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<v Speaker 3>one woman's show that ran through a cavalcade of song. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a musical history of Las Vegas. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>a tour of the American songbook. She sings songs by

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<v Speaker 3>Gladys Knight and the Pips. He'd cover songs by Tina Turner.

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<v Speaker 3>She had range, right, and apparently she sang a wicked

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<v Speaker 3>proud Mary. Now this is why she gets hired to

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<v Speaker 3>go down to that little country there just north of Brazil.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Trina was booked by an outfit called Events for Surreyname,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was run by this shady promoter named Angel

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<v Speaker 3>Ventura or on hell Ventura, which totally sounds like a

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<v Speaker 3>made up name, right, it sounds like the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>name you would expect for like, I don't know, professional wrestler.

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<v Speaker 2>All yes, totally Anyway, this cat Ventura.

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<v Speaker 3>He books Trina as the singer for a Tony Braxton

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<v Speaker 3>tribute show. So she flies down for that, except he

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<v Speaker 3>told the crowd it would really be Tony Braxton. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so Tina didn't know the real score, or so she claims. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>she flew down to surreynam When she got there, ready

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<v Speaker 3>to perform, she learns that the audience is expecting Tony Braxton.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, break their hearts, Sarah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You feel me now, This poor woman, she's got a

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<v Speaker 3>moment to decide. She's all made up, right, What will

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<v Speaker 3>she do? Would she go out on stage and pretend

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<v Speaker 3>to be Tony Braxton? Or would she keep her integrity

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<v Speaker 3>tell the promoter to go get bent and fly back

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<v Speaker 3>home to the US. I think you know what choice

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<v Speaker 3>she d Trina decided to go out on stage. This

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<v Speaker 3>crowd in Surryna was expecting Tony Braxton. Damn it. She

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna give them Tony Braxton. Problem was they knew

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Braxton because they were fans of Tony Braxton. So

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<v Speaker 3>she goes out there, she takes the stage, she performs

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<v Speaker 3>her set right, her first song is apparently solid, but

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<v Speaker 3>something just ain't right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm guessing it's not a huge venue.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's a stadium, but it is. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like a tiny club. It's like a stadium. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>a little distance between her and the crowd. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 3>can kind of pull it off. But like Tony Braxton,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if she's known for her dance moves.

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<v Speaker 3>It's mostly her voice and her persona.

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<v Speaker 2>And the balaklava I would hope with hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. So she's out there and she can see the

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<v Speaker 3>crowd's faces and they do not look like they're into

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<v Speaker 3>this show. Some look confused, others look upset, some are

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<v Speaker 3>just mad. No one's smiling though, right, So Trina tries

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<v Speaker 3>to shake it off. Maybe her second song will win

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<v Speaker 3>them over. So this is when the booze now start

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<v Speaker 3>to rain down on her. Folks. In the first few rows,

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<v Speaker 3>they're shooting daggers with their eyes at her. Trina, though,

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<v Speaker 3>keeps singing she's committed, you know, she's the show's got

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<v Speaker 3>to go on, and she's on now the show, So

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<v Speaker 3>trying like hell, she tries to win over the crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>Then she gets hit with a glass of beer. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a plastic Yeah, luckily it's a plastic cup, splashes

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<v Speaker 3>its contents all over her. That's bad. It's also very

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<v Speaker 3>fun for the crowd. So now a glass bottle comes up.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's bad. That's yeah, that's worse. Then another plastic glass,

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<v Speaker 3>and then another bottle and another. The crowd is fully

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<v Speaker 3>turned on her, right, so the Trina waves for the

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<v Speaker 3>DJ cut the music. Cut the music, right, he does.

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<v Speaker 3>She turns to the crowd and tells them we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>stop the show now, which they did that exactly that,

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<v Speaker 3>and Trina cuts out. Not only does she leave the stage,

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<v Speaker 3>she leaves the venue.

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<v Speaker 4>Just who made a promise?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly Also I forgot to mention, but once she was backstage,

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<v Speaker 3>she looked for the promoter on Hell Ventura, and ode

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<v Speaker 3>On Hell had disappeared. He was gone, right, he got

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<v Speaker 3>the money from the gate and was whooped gone. The

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<v Speaker 3>next day, Trina and her husband they get confronted by

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<v Speaker 3>the local police. They're like, you know, this was straight

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<v Speaker 3>up fraud. You got to give these people their money back.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, we don't have the money. They get arrested,

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<v Speaker 3>taken to the police station, interrogated. The day after that,

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<v Speaker 3>oh wow, it was definitely. This is like in the

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<v Speaker 3>early two thousand, so it was like an expensive ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the day after they get initially interrogated, they're feeling

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<v Speaker 3>like they're pressing their luck hanging out in Surinam. Once again,

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<v Speaker 3>they do not have the money to make this right. America,

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<v Speaker 3>Las Vegas is essentially right, So yeah, that's in America.

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<v Speaker 3>They trying to make a break for it. They flee

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<v Speaker 3>to the airport. In this desperate attempt to escape Surinam

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<v Speaker 3>right her and her husband, the couple, they reached the

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<v Speaker 3>airport and that's where they're confronted by police. Yet again,

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<v Speaker 3>they're detained at the airport. They don't make it out.

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<v Speaker 3>The promoter Ventura, though he's pulled a full Harry Houdini.

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<v Speaker 3>Cops can't find him. He's gone. He did not go

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<v Speaker 3>to the airport, he went some other way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So the police though, since they have training, and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just throw the law look at her, and so

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<v Speaker 3>they do that. Now Trina's on the hook for all

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<v Speaker 3>the sins of on hell. Ventura. Her husband also though,

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't know, he's just her husband, he gets arrested,

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<v Speaker 3>also detained for two weeks. He's locked up. Finally, after

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks are like, we have nothing on this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So they send him back to America. But meanwhile, in

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<v Speaker 3>that two weeks time, he lost his job because he

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<v Speaker 3>was a realtor and his employer was like, man, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't need a realtor who's like cooling his heels into

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<v Speaker 3>jail and Surinam. Yeah, so he gets back and then

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<v Speaker 3>what's he has to do now is get his wife

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<v Speaker 3>freaked because she's still detained and the authorities have no

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<v Speaker 3>immediate plans to let her go because they do have

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<v Speaker 3>charges on her. So her husband flies back to America

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<v Speaker 3>without her. Once he's home, he begins selling the couple's

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<v Speaker 3>few assets to raise money to fight her case.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, so, Elizabeth, I don't know if you've ever spent

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<v Speaker 3>time in jail, or specifically jail and surinam, but I

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<v Speaker 3>know you don't. I didn't want to put you on

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<v Speaker 3>the spot an embarrassing front of producer Dan. But let

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<v Speaker 3>me tell you it's no country sleigh ride right Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>Trina caught all kinds of hell when she was locked

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<v Speaker 3>up or calling her time behind bars. I found a

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<v Speaker 3>quote from Trina she explained how a quote, it was

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<v Speaker 3>like being locked up in a very poor country like Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can imagine that, it was very nasty, run down.

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<v Speaker 3>The toilet was not working, so it's said, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>instead of her proper john, though, Trina was forced to

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<v Speaker 3>use a small metal bucket as her toilet. A bucket, Elizabeth, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I have?

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<v Speaker 3>Really? Is that what that is in your car. Well, see,

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<v Speaker 3>I always wonder where do you empty the bucket? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you throw it out the cell window like you live

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<v Speaker 3>in a medieval castle, or did this someone come around

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<v Speaker 3>with like a honeywagon. You go like empty it twice

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<v Speaker 3>like a day, Like how does that work with the bit.

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<v Speaker 4>In the corner of a Walmart parking lot?

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<v Speaker 3>Not your bucket, fair bucket, their bucket.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I'm gonna guess they throw it out

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<v Speaker 4>the window.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the prison or the jail. Well, anyway, back to Trina,

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<v Speaker 3>enough bucket. She also remembered how bleak the living conditions

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<v Speaker 3>were in her cell, and she wanted to talk about that,

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<v Speaker 3>so she focused on the shower. She was very liquid focused,

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<v Speaker 3>so she Trina said, the rooms were just nasty. I

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<v Speaker 3>had an old bed that was extremely hard. You showered

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<v Speaker 3>by catching water coming out of the faucet in a

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<v Speaker 3>bucket and washing down that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Their buckets buckets, and the buckets are multipleower your bucket.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, oh man, yeah, my shower.

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<v Speaker 4>But I wonder what was the lighting like? Was that

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<v Speaker 4>tough to imagine?

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<v Speaker 3>It was diom So Trina's time in jail seems like

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<v Speaker 3>a rather excessive punishment for pretending to be Tony Braxton.

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<v Speaker 3>But despite what she had, she had to suffer for

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<v Speaker 3>putting on this fake show. Trina tries to survive her

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<v Speaker 3>new life after lock up. Now after she and her husband,

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<v Speaker 3>they keep trying to fight her case, right, so he

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<v Speaker 3>pays for lawyers. She gets herself some local lawyers. She

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<v Speaker 3>is also hoping her story of wrongful incarceration might go

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<v Speaker 3>viral and help her to get free. That did not happen, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>So she's down.

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<v Speaker 4>There because something went wrong there.

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<v Speaker 3>You go, well, worse than that for her, since you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she's not getting viral fame for her suffering, and and

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<v Speaker 3>they started on. No one seems to care about the

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<v Speaker 3>fate of this phony Tony Braxton forre and a half

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<v Speaker 3>months behind bars. Finally, Trina's case goes to trial in

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<v Speaker 3>May of two thousand and nine. That's when a miracle occurs.

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<v Speaker 3>A miracle. Elizabeth, the ever mysterious long presumed disappeared promoter

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<v Speaker 3>on Hell Ventura reappears on the scene. Oh really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>better than that. He shows up in court. Trina tells it. Quote,

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<v Speaker 3>they said they found him, but I think he just

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<v Speaker 3>turned himself in and had probably paid a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people off to avoid taking responsibility for this. Well, so

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<v Speaker 3>when paying people off failed, he finally agreed to face

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<v Speaker 3>the music. So back to Trina quote, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>there's any big man hunt for him, but the prestice

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<v Speaker 3>was generating internationally forced them to take a look at

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<v Speaker 3>the real evidence. And we had a contract specifically stating

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<v Speaker 3>that I was a tribute act. He basically got called

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<v Speaker 3>out and had to turn himself in.

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<v Speaker 2>So where was this contract? Couldes she show the police?

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently I don't ask. I guess maybe he still hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>his BF case and she's like, look at his briethdays

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<v Speaker 3>find the contract. I do not know the details were

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<v Speaker 3>scarce got it? Got it? So once they do have

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<v Speaker 3>this slippery promoter on the witness stand, as I am

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<v Speaker 3>imagining it, he confesses to his part in the fake

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Braxton scam concert, gets convicted, sentenced to two and

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<v Speaker 3>a half years in prison. Wowrin sur on prison with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Buckets of bucket.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you like buckets, buddy, so is Trina. She

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<v Speaker 3>gets sent home to America, where she returns to Vegas

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<v Speaker 3>and her one woman tour of the American songbook, So

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<v Speaker 3>they're happy ending for her, right, Yeah, Trina, Now I've

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<v Speaker 3>got a much bigger surprise for you, and this one

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<v Speaker 3>that was about to tell you. It's a series of stories,

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<v Speaker 3>but they all involve a very famous man who is

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<v Speaker 3>Snoop Dogg's uncle.

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<v Speaker 4>Is Snoop Dogg's uncle is famous?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's take a little break and after these beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful lads we will be back. I'll tell you about

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<v Speaker 3>this famous man who is Snoop Dogg's uncle.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Elizabeth Zaren do you figure out who Snoop

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<v Speaker 6>Dogg's famous uncle was?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you really don't know? You have any guesses? U? No, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the stories will be about folks who pretend to be

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<v Speaker 3>Snoop's famous uncle, not actually about Snoop's famous uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>That was it his uncle on his mother's side or

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<v Speaker 2>his father's side.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't examine his last name, Brotus. I didn't examine

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<v Speaker 3>the actual genealogy. They just both claim each other as

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<v Speaker 3>nephew and uncle.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh was it like play uncle?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's real. I don't think it's play.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's real. I'll give you a hint. His

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<v Speaker 3>name rhymes with cutesy rawlins. What, Yes, Bootsy as in

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<v Speaker 3>Collins Uncle, the Calvin brotus aka Snoop Dogg.

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<v Speaker 4>How in the what I know?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Everything I found that I could find online. It

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<v Speaker 3>could not find like their sestry dot com, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Found I don't know what you're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of time. I will go on to ancestry dot

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<v Speaker 2>com after this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you should. Yeah, I don't even have it like

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<v Speaker 3>a log in. So bootsy seks to be the word

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<v Speaker 3>bootsy is slang that you use all the time. What

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<v Speaker 3>does bootsy mean to you?

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<v Speaker 2>To me? When I say something is bootsy, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a less than high quality.

0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.200
<v Speaker 4>It's it's kind of janky.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, another one, all right, so that's a synonym for bootsy.

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<v Speaker 4>Think you know, uh poor quality? Gross?

0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Okay, now we got a definition. Yes, I guess all right,

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<v Speaker 3>Well I feel I feel like whenever you say it,

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<v Speaker 3>I totally get what you mean. But then also I

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<v Speaker 3>obviously think of Bootsy when I hear it, I think

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<v Speaker 3>of Bootsy Collins. So when I say bootsy as in

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<v Speaker 3>Bootsy Collins, what do you picture? What do you imagine?

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine huge platform boots, and like star shaped sunglasses. Yes, Bootsy.

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<v Speaker 3>How about his star based that he nicknamed space.

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<v Speaker 2>Bas Yes, space based?

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<v Speaker 3>Well a little just about Bootsy. He was born William

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<v Speaker 3>Earl aka Bootsy Collins. He was born nineteen fifty one.

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<v Speaker 3>His mama nicknamed him Bootsy. He once asked her, like,

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<v Speaker 3>why did you name your baby boy Bootsy?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I imagine like you was. It doesn't sound like

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<v Speaker 3>it's exactly a compliment. His mama told him, and I

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<v Speaker 3>quote because you looked like a Bootsy And he said,

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<v Speaker 3>I left it at that, you know, mama said, So

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<v Speaker 3>Bootsy's Collins. He's He first came to prominence in James

0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Brown's band, the JBS. Right now. He played on a

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<v Speaker 3>raft of James Brown's legendary songs. Hey, I'll tell you

0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.440
<v Speaker 3>a couple of them. Get up. I feel like being

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<v Speaker 3>a sex machine. He was on super Bad, He's on

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<v Speaker 3>Soul Power. So like right when James is getting funky,

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<v Speaker 3>he's there. He's the one who introduces or helps introduce

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<v Speaker 3>the funk. He gave those tracks. That's super funky. So

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<v Speaker 3>him and his brother Catfish Collins low End. Yeah, Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as you might imagine, working for James Brown was no

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<v Speaker 3>picnic in the park. Her stories, I imagine right now

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<v Speaker 3>it is. Bootsy remembered it in one colorful story about

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<v Speaker 3>his time with the Godfather's Soul. He said, and I quote,

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<v Speaker 3>he treated me like a son, and being out of

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<v Speaker 3>a father this home, I needed that father figure and

0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.600
<v Speaker 3>he really played up to it. I mean, good lord.

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<v Speaker 3>Every night after we played a show, he called us

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<v Speaker 3>back to give us a lecture about how horrible we sounded.

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<v Speaker 3>Not on that son. I didn't hear that one. You

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<v Speaker 3>didn't give me the one. He would tell me this

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<v Speaker 3>after every show. One night we knew we wasn't sounding

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<v Speaker 3>really good. We were off, and he called us back

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<v Speaker 3>there and he said, oh, now that's what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all was on it tonight. You hit the one. My

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<v Speaker 3>brother and I looked at each other like this mother

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<v Speaker 3>has got to be crazy. We knew in all heart

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<v Speaker 3>and soul that we wasn't all on that show. So

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<v Speaker 3>then I started figuring out his game. Man by telling

0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.320
<v Speaker 3>me that I wasn't on it, he made me practice

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<v Speaker 3>hort up. So I just absorbed what he said and

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<v Speaker 3>used it in a positive way. So that was about

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<v Speaker 3>how he did it.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I needed a father figure, someone who would criticized him needless.

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<v Speaker 3>A real tough, hard hand is what I'm looking for.

0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.640
<v Speaker 3>James Brown, like I keep my hands strong. So he

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<v Speaker 3>got this tiny tyrant James Brown, right, who's just like

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<v Speaker 3>a bound muscle of aggression on stage and off right.

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<v Speaker 3>So in the meantime, Bootsy, he's trying to handle the

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<v Speaker 3>stress of dealing with his boss and now he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, newfound and growing fame as a musician, so

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<v Speaker 3>he chooses to self medicate. His medicine of choice was LSD. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's an interesting as Bootsy tells it, LSD was a

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<v Speaker 3>big part of why I left James Brown's band. I

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<v Speaker 3>promise myself I'd never do it during a show, but

0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.040
<v Speaker 3>we had a father son relationship, and he pestered me

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<v Speaker 3>so much not to do it that one day I

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<v Speaker 3>just did. My base turned into a snake and I

0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:43.399
<v Speaker 3>can't even remember playing. After he called me in the

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<v Speaker 3>back room as he always did and was explaining how

0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.639
<v Speaker 3>terrible I was, even when I wasn't taking LSD. I

0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.640
<v Speaker 3>laughed so hard I was on the floor. To him,

0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.480
<v Speaker 3>that was very disrespectful. He had his body God throw

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<v Speaker 3>me out. So he's high in LSD and he gets

0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:02.320
<v Speaker 3>thrown out of James.

0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Brown's the tech bro micro dos.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he's doing MAXI dosing MAXI do. Yeah, He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>how many he did? He says he did elist every

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<v Speaker 3>day for two years.

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:16.520
<v Speaker 4>What, yes, Bootsy, I don't think that's healthy.

0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.840
<v Speaker 3>No, but it helped him decide it was time to

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<v Speaker 3>move on from James Brown. Okay, Boots it is. It

0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.360
<v Speaker 3>helped him to see things in a new way, give

0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.560
<v Speaker 3>him new perspectives and insights. He stayed with James bound

0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.359
<v Speaker 3>for about a year, but I think it's like eleven months. No,

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<v Speaker 3>he and his brother, Catfish Collins, they split from the band.

0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.800
<v Speaker 3>What a great pair of names, right, these are my sons,

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<v Speaker 3>Bootsy and Catfish. So next up the brothers Bootsy and Catfish.

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<v Speaker 3>They joined George Clinton's band, Parliament Funkade. Now that's where

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<v Speaker 3>Bootsy becomes a superstar, right, that's where we think of

0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.200
<v Speaker 3>him with the star shaped sunglasses, the yeah, you know,

0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.560
<v Speaker 3>the platform heals. So George Clinton, obviously he appreciates all

0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.399
<v Speaker 3>the way out there antics in the funky bass of

0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy Collins. So Bootsy stayed with George Clinton in Parliament

0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Forkadelic for the rest of the seventies and into the eighties,

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<v Speaker 3>and together they make the funkiness into a cultural revolution.

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<v Speaker 3>So over the years, Bootsy tries on many many personas,

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<v Speaker 3>like there's boots Zilla, right aka quote the world's only

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Ryan Stone rockstar, mon still of a doll. So because

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<v Speaker 3>of course, you know, Bootsy would see himself as an

0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.200
<v Speaker 3>alien rock star. Sure has come to Earth to spread

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<v Speaker 3>the gospel of funk. It's all that makes sense, right,

0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's right there, Elizabeth. So over the years,

0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.399
<v Speaker 3>obviously there are other personas. One that was all mentioned

0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:34.520
<v Speaker 3>was Casper the Funky Ghost. Okay, that's me, Yeah, Bootsy Collins.

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<v Speaker 3>He's always on. He was one of a kind basically, right,

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<v Speaker 3>which makes it super wild that there were a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of people who tried to impersonate him, like a bunch Yeah,

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.800
<v Speaker 3>they called him almost Bootsies like. Some did it well

0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.320
<v Speaker 3>and some were surprisingly successful, others not so much. So

0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.120
<v Speaker 3>it started off when Bootsy heard about this one cat

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<v Speaker 3>out there who kind of looked like him, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was charging money to sign autographs at events. Like he

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<v Speaker 3>would go to some small city and he'd find a

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<v Speaker 3>nightclub or a Ants Club and he posts up there.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he'd start to like greet his fans and he'd

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<v Speaker 3>shake some hands and if anyone wanted an autograph, he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be five dollars or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:13.880
<v Speaker 3>So his manager, Bootsy Collins manager Archie Ivy recalled quote

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<v Speaker 3>there were Bootsy sightings all over the place where Bootsy

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't So now what was Bootsy's initial response, Well, according

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<v Speaker 3>to Ivy, we just shrugged it off and said, boots

0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.280
<v Speaker 3>he's a real star. Now, we didn't take things seriously.

0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, that is a good point. That shows what a

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<v Speaker 2>star you are.

0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:32.399
<v Speaker 3>That totally people want to be you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I think because he doesn't like if you

0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.359
<v Speaker 2>asked me to pick his just plane face with no

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<v Speaker 2>hair out of a lineup.

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:41.840
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't do it.

0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Be very difficult. He usually's wearing a sequin top hat. Yes,

0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.119
<v Speaker 3>star shaped sunglasses. You just see a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>slender black face.

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So if you have the same build, then yeah,

0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.560
<v Speaker 2>you just put the accessories on and yeah, speaking come Bootsy.

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.720
<v Speaker 3>George Clinton tried it on for a weekend.

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.399
<v Speaker 4>It's maybe it's like santy Claus.

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Kind of Bootsy clubs George. As I was saying, George Clinton,

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<v Speaker 3>his bandmate been Parliament falcadelic. He found it all hilarious

0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.480
<v Speaker 3>that people wanted to be Bootsy, so you know he

0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.199
<v Speaker 3>would he said, and I quote, I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>funny that someone got away with it that far, right, now,

0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 3>George Clinton, he also tried to, as I said, be

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<v Speaker 3>boot become Bootsy, and to see what he could get

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:20.520
<v Speaker 3>away with. So, as he remembered it, one time he

0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.960
<v Speaker 3>was backstage and he tried to make some young woman

0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.880
<v Speaker 3>laugh and he put on the Bootsy costume. And George

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Clinton tells the story and I quote, somebody came to

0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:30.200
<v Speaker 3>see Bootsy and they had never seen him up close.

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<v Speaker 3>And I put on the star glasses and said yeah, Bubba,

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.960
<v Speaker 3>which was one of the trademark catchphrases of his persona

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.200
<v Speaker 3>boot Zilla. So I was with the girl for two

0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 3>or three days before Bootsy showed up. I told Bootsy

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.679
<v Speaker 3>I was him. So he says right to boss face, and.

0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.920
<v Speaker 2>He's just like, oh wow, okay, No, of.

0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Course everybody in the story is kite high.

0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:52.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's like.

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.359
<v Speaker 2>When I was little and growing up, we'd be driving

0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.640
<v Speaker 2>and if we saw a car exactly like ours, same

0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 2>make model color. My mother would say to us, Oh,

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's us and we just don't know it, And

0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:05.120
<v Speaker 2>that just messed with my.

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Head so badly sent your little head slide right.

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'd be like, oh what if it is?

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:13.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, parallel universe right there. I hope we make it.

0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 4>You know, she got there.

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Now speaking about there. But my man Bootsy, as you

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 3>point out right, he was a bit easier to imitate

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 3>because his look is so iconic and so people it's

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 3>largely a costume. People just need the star shape, sunglasses

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:31.120
<v Speaker 3>and uh. As his manager Ivy points out, it wasn't

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.080
<v Speaker 3>like impersonating prints where he had to worry about height.

0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 3>With Bootsy, you make yourself tall with platform boots, put

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:39.639
<v Speaker 3>on a top hat and the star glasses and a

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.720
<v Speaker 3>lot of shiny stuff. Bootsie's voice is basically a cartoon character,

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.440
<v Speaker 3>so if you had the right phrase and attitude, I

0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 3>can see it being pulled off.

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 3>So, now if you ask Bootsy what he thought about

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 3>all this sudden wave of imitators, he'd tell you, as

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.400
<v Speaker 3>he once told Rolling Stone, and I quote, at first,

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was funny until some close friends started

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 3>to tell me about how the almost Bootsy started to

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.760
<v Speaker 3>rip people off because he's very positive. It's fun when

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.440
<v Speaker 3>people are having fun. But now they're out there trying

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 3>to like scam in his name. He's like, that ain't

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 3>right now, that ain't Bootsy. So Bootsy did he get

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 3>to have some fun with it? Right? He even offered

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.480
<v Speaker 3>his fans their very own Bootsy costume, like his nineteen

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:21.399
<v Speaker 3>seventy eight album he had was called Bootsy Player of

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 3>the Year right. That album included a pair of fake

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.400
<v Speaker 3>star cut cardboard sunglasses. A fan could cut them out

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 3>and become Bootsy. So this obviously led to Bootsy saying

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 3>at the time, it seems that in the past year

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 3>there's been a lot of fake teers running around almost

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 3>Bootsies who's been trying to.

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Be me.

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Bakaders. Yeah, because obviously the funketeers is to play on.

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.919
<v Speaker 3>So Bootsy Uh. The very next year, for his next album,

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 3>This boot is Made for Funking', he had a song

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 3>called she Jam parenthetical almost Bootsy show. So he addressed

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 3>it directly and in the lyrics Bootsy sang and I

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 3>quote without singing, said everyone they were almost Bootsy decked

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 3>out in the staw shaped shades, little boys and girls.

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 3>They were almost Bootsy shining all over the place. So

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 3>there you go. That was some cute fun for Boots.

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 4>That's great.

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, one of the almost Bootsies that we've been

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, teasing out, they walked into the headquarters of

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Warner Brothers Records in Burbank. The almost Bootsy he told

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 3>someone in Warner Brothers office, I'm Bootsy and then said

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm luck my next royalty check.

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, like it didn't get delivered to the house.

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 4>I guess can I just can I cancel that one?

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 4>Just issue me a new one.

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 3>I was traveling, I thought I just come right to

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 3>the office.

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 4>To make it easier on you.

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 3>So the folks at Warner Brothers, they were used to

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 3>odd behavior from Bootsy, right, Oh yeah, but this was unprofessional, right,

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 3>and a little more than sus So the folks at

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 3>Warner Brothers they call Bootsi's manager, Archie Ivy, and the

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 3>manager when he hears that Bootsy is in a Burbank

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 3>in the Warner Brothers office asking them run me my check.

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 3>He thought it was because Bootsy knew his royalty checks

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.679
<v Speaker 3>were distributed by his company and not by Warner rog

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 3>so yeah, the manager recalled that he'd just spoken with

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 3>the funketeer himself just two days prior in the Cincinnati area.

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Then the reason why this matters, Elizabeth is that Bootsy

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 3>was afraid of flying. He would avoided at all costs. Yeah,

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 3>so he would have driven across country from Ohio to California,

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 3>and that most likely would have taken longer than two days.

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 3>So Ivy the manager, he had the execs Warner Brothers

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 3>stall this almost Bootsy who was asking for the royalty

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 3>check that the execs from the label. They did as requested.

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 3>They stall him, but they left him alone. Right, So

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 3>then they go they go back to the call. Okay,

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 3>we stalled him, and then they go back to him

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, wait, where'd he go? Yeah, he took

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 3>off gone almost Bootsy, he bootsied out the door. But

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 3>he was not the last almost Bootsy because there were

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 3>actually there were quite a few. As George Clinton recalled,

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 3>there was this funny thing was how when he wasn't

0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:00.200
<v Speaker 3>on stage, Bootsy was not so outsized. You know a

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 3>lot of performers, but people always imagined he was Bootsy

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.120
<v Speaker 3>twenty four to seven. So Bootsy was actually rather shy.

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 3>So it was kind of the tell if you knew

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 3>boots he was if he's being outsized when he's not

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 3>in a stage setting, it's not Bootsy.

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.679
<v Speaker 2>That's like me, you know. It's like, I'm so hyper

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 2>infrenetic on this show.

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:21.439
<v Speaker 3>So exactly the place I'm like, Elizabeth climbed down from

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 3>the walls.

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 4>Right, and so we're scaring in the in the world.

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 3>May meet you, and you're just a very calm today.

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Kashmir sweater.

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't believe it.

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wearing track pants exactly. George Clinton framed it. Bootsy

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 3>was shy. He couldn't have been to all those parties,

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 3>but people wanted to see Bootsy and be with them.

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 3>I went to a few places and people would say,

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I just saw Bootsy. They might have been a couple

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 3>of them. So they're just Bootsies popping up everywhere. Yeah,

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I just showed up with the glasses, the hat. I'm Bootsy.

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 3>So just imagine a world with a multiplicity of Bootsies, right,

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 3>would that be good? And that's like we need one? Yeah,

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 3>that'd be kind of insane. But rather than picture that, Elizabeth,

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 3>I thought I'd take you up run and personal to

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 3>your very own almost bootsy sighting. Yes, Elizabeth, I'd like

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 3>you to close your eyes. I'd like you to picture it. Elizabeth.

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 3>It's the early nineteen eighties and you were seated at

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 3>a corner table in a nightclub in Washington, DC. The

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 3>crowd is a mix of the hip and the hangers on.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 3>All around you, you can hear men and women's laughter,

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 3>low conversations, glasses, plank lighters, spark to life, to burn,

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 3>the business end of a cigarette. At the moment you're

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 3>seated at the corner table, the coolest people in the room.

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 3>Most of the folks with you are musicians just like you.

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 3>You're the drummer in a local funk band, and at

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 3>the moment you and the rest of your band are

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 3>absolutely giddy because seated with you is the one and

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>only Bootsy Collins, the master of the space bass himself.

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 3>He's wearing his signature star shaped sunglasses, his sequin top hat,

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 3>and at the moment he's telling you stories about hanging

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 3>out with the famous folks whose names you know. In

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 3>the music you revere, He's mentioned playing gigs with James

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 3>Brown and the JB. He talks about his time with

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 3>the Atomic dog George Clinton playing in jams with Sly

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 3>but without the family stone. The weird part, though, is

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 3>how Boots he keeps bad mouth and everyone he's ever

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 3>played with or worked for. At the moment, Bootsy is drunk,

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 3>loud talking. Bits of spittle hit your face as he

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 3>tells you how James never understood that Boots he ain't

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 3>from planet Earth. Boots is from planet for Gozella, the

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 3>known home planet of the one and only boots Zella.

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 3>You dig babies now, ignoring the bits of liquor up

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 3>the spittle as he talks, It's fun to take a

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 3>trip down memory lane with Bootsy. Here's someone who seems

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 3>to note just about everyone in music. However, it's still

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 3>a bummer how he has almost nothing good to say

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 3>about any of them. His mood switches on a dome

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 3>with a great flourish Bootsy holds up a credit card

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 3>and waves it around like a composer's baton Boots, he

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 3>says loud enough for all the nightclub waiters to hear,

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have fun with this plastic Yeah, now, indeed

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 3>you all do. Another round of drinks is ordered, more

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 3>food is ordered. When the flaming drinks arrive at the table.

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 3>You blow out yours and take the first sip. You

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 3>think to yourself, it sure feels good to party with

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 3>music Royalty. There's a band getting set up on stage

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 3>in this little nightclub. Someone in your party spots this development.

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 3>It says to Bootsy, you should get up and grab

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>a base and funk this place up. Bootsy laughs at

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 3>the idea, ha ha, like it's a big joke, but

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 3>you won't let the idea go. You keep nudging Bootsy

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 3>to take the stage into unleash the Bootzilla on this crowd.

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 3>Boots he just keeps laughing.

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Ah.

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 3>But it's like it's the funniest idea is ever heard.

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 3>But it's not that funny anyway. Bootsy turns to you

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 3>and asks, how are you fixed with cash? Now? He

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 3>says he happens to be caught riding low on the greenbacks.

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>He says he just has his credit cards on him,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 3>but he needs some walking around money for Bootsy. Now,

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 3>could you loan boots Is some bucks? The question throws you,

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>and you hear yourself say, without thinking, what about your royalties?

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Can't you just like ask for a line of credit

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 3>at a bank against them? Boots He laughs off the idea,

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 3>ha ha ha, same as when it was suggested that

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 3>he should play the bass on stage. Boutsi just says,

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 3>does anyone else in your band have any cash? A

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 3>little something to help out Bootsy? Now you're getting annoyed.

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Why is this rich rock star trying to pull dollars

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 3>out of your band's gas money? So you say to Bootsy,

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 3>aren't you loaded? You're Bootsy? That elicits another big Bootsy laugh.

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Bosieck loves that. Now the master of the space base says,

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 3>if that's right, baby Rom Bootsie Tom next up Planet

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 3>funk Azilla. He excuses himself to go to the bathroom.

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 3>The band is nearly set up. Now you wonder what

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy will think of them. But you never find out

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 3>because boots He never comes back to the table. In fact,

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 3>you never see him again. And it turns out, even

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 3>though he waved his card around, he never actually paid

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 3>for all the drinks and the food that he ordered

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 3>for the table, which means you and the band have

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 3>to pick up the tab for Bootsy. So much for

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 3>the band's gas money. Oh man, So, as you might guess,

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 3>that was not the real Bootsy Collins. Did you party

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 3>with in DC, Elizabeth? You spent the night with a

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 3>high dollar almost Bootsy. Did you have fun? Right? There

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 3>was a lot of fun though. Yeah. Sure, Okay, let's

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 3>take a little break and after these messages we'll be

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 3>back with more fake bootsies, Elizabeth. As we've covered Bootsy,

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 3>my man Bootsy, Your man Bootsy a bit outsized, also

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 3>a bit shy. You enjoying the stories of I am

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 3>the dichotomy of the Funkozoa. Now, when Bootsy obviously was

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 3>off stage and feeling shy, he was still Bootsy that interestingly,

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 3>though he would be dressed as the space alien funketeer,

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 3>he would just tone down his behavior and use his

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>normal talking voice. He'd be at home wearing his star

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 3>sunglasses and some outrageous shiny outfit. His booking agent actually remember,

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 3>and I found this quote from him. He said, I

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 3>never saw him running around in Bermuda shorts and a

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 3>tank top. He was always Bootsy, So you know, bermudas

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 3>and a tank I don't know what's why he goes

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 3>with right, it's very early eighties, I guess you know,

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 3>you can make sure a lot.

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Of people, well, you can either dress like that or

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>you can dress like Bootsy. Those your only choice.

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen eighty two, that was the choice, that was

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 3>the law. So as you can probably hear, it's not

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 3>easy to become such a character and not lose kind

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 3>of like a sight of yourself or part of your humanity.

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 3>And the even more extreme cases, which is what Bootsy

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 3>was worried about, was happening to him. Yeah, Plus he's

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 3>taking acid every day for two years. So eventually, by

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 3>the early eighties, after a decade at the Heights of Funk,

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy decided he was over it. Right as he told

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Rolling Stone, and I quote, I got so tired of

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 3>living up to the Bootsy character. I'd become a so

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 3>called star. I just didn't know how to handle it.

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 3>So it was a real crisis for the residents Space

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Alien And as he later told The Guardian, and I quote,

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I got worn out from being Bootsy going into the eighties,

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I was trying to get away from him. He was

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 3>hitting up the festivals, the stadiums, headlining for one hundred

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 3>thousand people. He was like a monster. The business side

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 3>got really big and ugly because I didn't know what

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I was doing. I was just there to play music

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 3>and the next thing I knew everything had turned around.

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Now this leads to a crisis for Boozy. Right at

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 3>this point, he's still gobbling acid like you know, like

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.719
<v Speaker 3>it's Flintstone vitamins. So this is becoming a problem for him.

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Eventually he has a bad motorcycle accident. Now he may

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 3>or may not have been asked on acid at the time.

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I could not get that straight. But could you imagine

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 3>crashing on a motorcycle on LSD?

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 3>God, right, are you just tripping and all of a sudden,

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 3>like I just can't imagine. I was thinking about that. Yeah,

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 3>And it slows down fat and then you just like

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 3>then you feel your skin grab against the pavement and

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 3>then it's like, oh my skin, where did it go?

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 3>So the shame of all this is that while others

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 3>were out having fun being almost to Bootsies, the real

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 3>deal is stuck being Bootsy and he felt like it

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 3>was a private hell to be Bootsy, And unlike the

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 3>almost Bootsies, he can't take off his costume and stop

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 3>being Bootsy because it's now a part of him, right,

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 3>all right, So, but he did step back from the

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 3>character he creates nineteen eighty two, he leaves the party

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.240
<v Speaker 3>life behind. He settles down on the twenty three acre

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 3>ranch back in Ohio near Cincinnati. Yeah, his mama told

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 3>him to take off his top hat and his star

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 3>sunglasses and just be her boy Bootsy again, be himself, right,

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 3>you beaus up, baby boy. Now. Two years later, nineteen

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 3>eighty four, he decided he should probably also stop doing drugs.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Probably not just the ranch.

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 4>Advisable when you're on the ranch, the drug.

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's basically what he came to, he said, and

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 3>I quote, I throwed all my drugs away and I

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 3>stopped taking them. That's when it started to become clear

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 3>what I needed to get back to, which was the music.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 3>So what meant for him keeping the costume off was

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 3>that Bootsy was seeing walking around his home in the

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 3>bermuda shorts and the tank tops. Eventually worrying what people

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 3>might call normal clothes, right, so he puts the star

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 3>sunglasses of the rhinestone top hats in a spare room.

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.479
<v Speaker 3>But not only that, he locked the door. Oh really,

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 3>he shuts his past self away behind a padlock. Meanwhile,

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 3>the almost Bootsies don't know this, so they're still going

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 3>around the world being full tailed Bootsies, still claiming to

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 3>be him and one of his new musical collaborators around

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 3>this time, he recalled his early eighties phase Bootsies, and

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 3>he described all these almost Bootsies, and he recalled what

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy told him. And this is a quote of Bootsy

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 3>from somebody else. Okay, so yeah, those mothers tried to

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 3>impersonate me, but they didn't get too far with it.

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 3>He would laugh about things like that. He was telling

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 3>everyone to be Bootsy, but so when somebody did it,

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 3>he didn't really bother him much. Yeah, but the strangeness

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 3>of the almost Bootsies persisted. Right now, we're into the eighties,

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 3>go go, let me see what I can get away with.

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 3>Sure it starts getting to leaving the uglier right. So,

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 3>one of the almost Bootsies, well, this is probably one

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 3>of the last silly moments. He dropped off some laundry,

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 3>said he claimed to be Bootsie Collins. I guess he

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 3>just wanted laundry. Yeah, he wanted Bootsy to pay for

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 3>his dry cleaning. I guess, like I think he thought

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 3>maybe Bootsy had like an account there. Maybe he saw

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy go there and he's like, let me just drop

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:08.240
<v Speaker 3>off my drag.

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 4>Cleaning, the getting like a sparkly pants drike clean.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do not know, but it was. It was

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.240
<v Speaker 3>one of the stories mentioned that I thought was interesting.

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Another one that was a kind of ticklish was they

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.399
<v Speaker 3>had a fax machine in their home in Cincinnati because

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 3>it's nineteen eighties, and so someone faxes them and wanted

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 3>to perform a Bootsy check. It was someone in La

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.479
<v Speaker 3>telling people that there was Bootsy Collins, right, So someone

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 3>faxed over to the house his Bootsy home, right, And

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 3>so the almost Bootsy had checked into some luxury hotel

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 3>like I'm imagining, like on Wilshare Boulevard, right, and they

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 3>were demanding a free room and free room service. And

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 3>his wife, who receives this fact, right, she calls back

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 3>to La and it's like, no, he's here at home.

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 3>He is not there, right.

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 2>So meanwhile, when he doesn't sound like the type who's like,

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>give me a free room exactly.

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 3>But people don't know, like the person who's working the

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 3>front desk, the this is this is star behavior. They're

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 3>all like this or whatever, and they move along and

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 3>they approve it. So the the guy gets away with it.

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 3>The almost Bootsy gets a free night, a hot meal

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 3>and everything else. And his wife not as amused as

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy would have abused. She was super annoyed by this

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 3>right because now they're starting to make it's a bad name,

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 3>it's a bad look. The press may get confused. So

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.320
<v Speaker 3>another call comes to the house, this time from Vegas.

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 3>There were reports of yet another almost Bootsy. His wife

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 3>super annoyed with this one because the Vegas Casino hotel

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 3>had complied and given Bootsy the free room the room service.

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Once again bad behavior on his parts. And now she's like,

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 3>that's not Bootsy, it's the impersonator. She's like yelling at people.

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 3>She wants there to be like a Bootsy block. So

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 3>my favorite almost Bootsy was in nineteen eighty eight. They

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 3>went to the New York Music Awards. He went as Bootsy.

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 3>He proceeded to hang out with other celebs, music stars,

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 3>gets in, He parties with Lou Reed, he laughed with

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Paul Simon, he posed with ll Coolja. Yes, there was

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 3>another enclosed encounter with this same almost Bootsy in a

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 3>hotel in Manhattan. A bass player who knew Bootsy heard

0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 3>his friend was in the hotel. So he comes over

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 3>to the law and he's like, and he sees Bootsy

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 3>because you're gonna see Bootsy and Apel lobby, right, So

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 3>he goes over to him and he's like, and I quote,

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I knew what Bootsy looked like. I see it all

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 3>the interviews and had the poaches on my wall as

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 3>a kid. He's staying in the same hotel as Miles.

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like, God, damn it, it's him. It's got

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 3>to be him. So he goes over to him, right,

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 3>he tries to speak to Bootsy and he sits his hero,

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 3>and his hero is acting funny, not quite like Bootsy.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 3>This almost Bootsy is like trying to like, oh, is

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 3>there a bathroom around here? Right? So he tries to

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 3>like slip away, and he manages to get out right.

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 3>But that's not the end of this story, because that

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 3>same almost Bootsy tried to like cad your ride with

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 3>the young bass player and his band. He did get

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 3>in the van with him and rode with them all

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 3>the way from New York to Washington, d C. So

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, this is our Washington d C. Almost boots.

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 3>They get to d C, the almost Bootsy and the

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 3>young musicians, they hang out. They're like, hey, he's like, oh,

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 3>what where are y'all staying? Right? So maybe didn't notice

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 3>it at first because there's so stoke that Bootsy wants

0:38:58.520 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 3>to chill with them, They're like, oh my god, he's

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 3>still wants to hang This is dope. So time passes though,

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 3>they're like, hey, darting to divvy up beds or whatever,

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 3>and people are like, hey, Bootsy, you're gonna go to

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:08.879
<v Speaker 3>get your own adort? Should we call you a cab?

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 3>The keyboardist in the band, who also meanwhile hero worship Bootsy,

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 3>he recalled how and I quote, I'm thinking, here's this

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 3>established famous musician, what's he doing hanging with us? Why

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 3>aren't we going out to a proper dinner and then

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 3>saying goodbye? Like normal, if you ran into one of

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 3>your heroes, you'd hang out. Who wouldn't turn into a

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:30.879
<v Speaker 3>twenty four to seven thing? This almost Bootsy much time

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 3>with the hero exactly? Dude? Do you never want to

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 3>meet your heroes, especially when they're not really them, like

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 3>a fake one of your heroes? Even once? Yeah, so

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 3>this almost Bootsy. He wants to talk, of course, industry gossip,

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.399
<v Speaker 3>so he starts running down people. He wants a dish

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 3>about how James Brown screwed him and George Clinton screwed him.

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.479
<v Speaker 3>Then he asked this young band, oh, do you guys

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 3>have a little cash for Bootsy? And then of course

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 3>he disappears, never to be seen again. Yeah, smash cut Annah.

0:39:56.800 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm California at the Annual Music Convention, which is a

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 3>national association of music merchants. Yeah, there's a guy there

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 3>who damn sure look like Bootsy. But not only that,

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 3>he's telling everyone he's Bootsy. So he's going around this

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 3>convention of music basically people selling guitars and basses and drums.

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 3>So this friend of Bootsy's who is there at NOM.

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 3>Here's the people shouting, Oh, Boots, he's here, Boots, He's

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 3>over there. I just saw a Bootsy. He's like, oh,

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know Bootsy was in Anahem. I thought he

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 3>was back in Cincinnati. So, as the friend tells it,

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:28.320
<v Speaker 3>I would say, what are you talking about. He's in Cincinnati,

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 3>he was here five minutes ago. So the friend tries

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 3>looking all around this Noom and he never catches up

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 3>to the almost Bootsy, but he did find the trail

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 3>of fraud that the almost BOUTSI left bey, Yes, this

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 3>fake funketeer got away with about ten thousand dollars worth

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 3>of even as guitars. Yeah, he had them. He arranged

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 3>for them to be sent to a po box in Louisiana.

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.800
<v Speaker 3>There were also invoices from Limo companies. And then y

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy's wife finally hears about this one. She's pissed again.

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 3>She tells the story, quote, he got away with a lot,

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 3>from what I'm told, thousands and thousands of dollars negative energy.

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 3>It was very disheartening. Yeah, So despite what his wife said,

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy still remained a little amused by all the crime

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 3>and hijinks to being done in his name. One former collaborator,

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.240
<v Speaker 3>he was telling the story to Rolling Stone. He said, quote,

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 3>we used to talk about that constantly, and every day

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 3>someone to say we heard he was in this place,

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 3>so he was here, and Boots he was always smiling

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 3>about it. And then when everyone found out that guy

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 3>was pulling a lot of endorsements, meaning he was getting

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 3>a lot of gear, everyone was sinking, Well, maybe that's

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 3>not cool because he couldn't sell that stuff. I don't

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:35.320
<v Speaker 3>know why that's the line. He could sell that stuff,

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 3>like we don't want him profiting off being almost Bootsy.

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:41.240
<v Speaker 3>So this same New York based Washington d C Corridor

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Almost Bootsy, Yeah, he would continue to contribute to the

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 3>growing legend of the almost Bootsies around the country. One time,

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 3>another friend of Bootsies was in New York City and

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 3>the friend was convinced, or rather conned by Almost Bootsy.

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 3>This guy was that good, This guy actually knew Bootsy

0:41:58.400 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 3>hanging out with him.

0:41:59.280 --> 0:41:59.879
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you're kidding.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 3>The musician, this guy, Freddy Perez, said, quote, you couldn't

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>tell the difference in his appearance and the way he spoke.

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:09.359
<v Speaker 3>He used the same words Bootsy used, even the sound

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 3>of his voice everything. It was wazing. So since he

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 3>was convinced, and since he was a musician, Perez was like, hey,

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy man, why don't you get up there and slap

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.359
<v Speaker 3>your bass around? So, as he put it, I said,

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 3>I want to hear the funk. So the response was

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:24.959
<v Speaker 3>he declined, very.

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Strange, ahead and decline.

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. What was stranger is while he was in DC,

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 3>this New York based Almost Bootsy did sit in with

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 3>a band. There's reports of him going up on stage

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 3>and sitting in, but he didn't play his bass. Instead,

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 3>he just sang because you know, everyone wants to hear

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy sing. No one's like, hey, sit your bass down

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 3>for this one. Come on, Bootsy, give us those those

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 3>velvety tones. You know, what do you know of the

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 3>American songbook. So this same almost Bootsy he continues rampaging

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 3>up and down the Eastern Seaboard, hopping in vans with

0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 3>young bands, playing shows as a singer. So finally the

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 3>real Bootsies team has to spring into like legal action. Yeah,

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 3>and they tried to put the kaibosh on this almost Bootsy.

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 3>So this is what the basically the point, This almost

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy goes to the mattresses right like like they say,

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 3>and the Godfather. So now that they know it's a war,

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:18.840
<v Speaker 3>so they're trying to get CAGI, so they try to

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:20.800
<v Speaker 3>catch up to them in a New York and a

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 3>night spot. Almost Bootsy was there. He was celebrating the fans, right,

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 3>and then he's like he was sitting on a complimentary

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 3>champagne that he was getting from the management. The whole bit, right.

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 3>The DJ was there playing his new song because boots

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 3>he had a new song out, and it's just like

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 3>in this dance club, a couple of days later, an

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.720
<v Speaker 3>executive calls that club and it's like, hey, how's Bootsy's

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 3>new song? Doing DJ's like, I got the craziest news

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy was in the club, and the labels X like what, Yeah,

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 3>that's impossible. What are you talking about? Are you kidding?

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 3>So he calls Bootsy's wife. He's like, was Bootsy in

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 3>like whatever club? And she's like, no, he was in

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:59.240
<v Speaker 3>a whole other stage. Yeah, exactly disconstantly is this Bootsy

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 3>the one eight hundred numbers she's got set up? So

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 3>the exact he calls back to the DJ, right, and

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 3>the DJ's like, well, I got that guy's number. I

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.360
<v Speaker 3>got Bootsy's number because I asked him, right, he was exactly, Oh,

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>give it to me. I'd like to talk to Bootsy

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, of course, right to DJ, he's now.

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 3>The exec gets the number from the DJ, slips it

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 3>to the authorities. The authorities like top up and they

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 3>call it up dead end. There was it was a

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 3>fake number he had slipped them. They're like, oh, yeah,

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:27.439
<v Speaker 3>he's my number, right. So Bootsi's people at this point

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.800
<v Speaker 3>they're really trying to like close their net on the

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 3>New York and Washington DC area, they find someone who

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 3>knows them or says they know him. They pass a

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 3>message like this is like back channel US Soviet nuclear negotiations. Right,

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 3>So they find somebody who says they know him. They're like, well,

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 3>give them this message. Meet us at this time. They

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 3>arrange a meeting. He shows up. Yes, one of Bootsy's

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 3>people is there, and they took it well, a couple

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 3>of people, and they took it very personally. What the

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 3>almost Bootsy had been up to. Yeah, right, as his

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 3>manager Ivy tells the story, the man from there was

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 3>another man there from Bootsy's team, this guy named Waller, right,

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 3>and so Bill Waller he goes medieval on this almost

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Bootsy like he was. Ivy tells it. Bill was from

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 3>the old school, and I'll just say he used.

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 4>Old school rules.

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Like Bill definitely wasn't Shug Night, but he wasn't anybody

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 3>you'd wanted to take lightly. So Yeah, there was some

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 3>talk later about getting the FBI involved. Rolling Stone even

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 3>submitted a Freedom of Information Act. I found a request

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 3>that they submitted one of their reports on this, and

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 3>the reporters were told by the FBI that the bureau

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 3>could quote, neither confirm nor deny the existence of such records,

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 3>So I'm going with the idea. There was some investigation

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 3>almost now, the reports of his appearances. They started to

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.800
<v Speaker 3>calm down in the late eighties, they seemed to go away,

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden, nineteen ninety rolls around

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Reggae Sunsplash festival in Jamaica, Elizabeth Bootsy gets spotted bringing

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 3>the funk to Reggae Sunsplash. Yeah. The next year there

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 3>were reports Bootsy was in la He was allegedly trying

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.320
<v Speaker 3>to put on a benefit concert for veteran into the

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 3>First Gulf War. He contacted a British band called The Alarm,

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 3>and he tried to ye right, and so he tried

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.439
<v Speaker 3>to coordinate their participation, and so they grew suspicious though

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 3>when he asked them to pay for his hotel room

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 3>and all his expenses, He's like, you could cover that

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 3>f a Bootsy right grocery. Meanwhile, the Internet is becoming

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 3>not quite common in nineteen ninety, so it existed, but

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 3>it was not like the band couldn't look him up. Yeah, exactly,

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 3>so they couldn't. They didn't know that d Light was

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:34.320
<v Speaker 3>on tour and Bootsy Collins was with them playing the

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 3>groove is in the heart on international stages. They're like,

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 3>there's no way that's Bootsy trying to put together a

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 3>benefit concert for the veterans of the First Gulf War.

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 4>The Alarm.

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:48.720
<v Speaker 3>The band they were suspicious about this concert, right, this benefit,

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.879
<v Speaker 3>So they booted the almost Bootsy off their band bus

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 3>right and he leaves with his luggage. And my favorite

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:57.919
<v Speaker 3>note is he also had with him a very large dog,

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 3>possibly a pet wolf. People in the b and could

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 3>not decide if it was a dogs. So was Van's

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 3>going around with luggage in a possibly Penny's that tight rolls.

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.839
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, the band kicks this almost Bootsy off their bus.

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:16.359
<v Speaker 3>He angrily yells at them, you will be hearing from

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 3>my lawyers. You will regret this, babies, Elizabeth, that was

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 3>not to occur. That was the last time ever heard

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 3>anyone ever heard from this guy. It was the last

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 3>time anyone ever seems to have heard from almost any

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 3>of the almost Bootsies. The trend passed on. So what's

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 3>that ridiculous takeaway here?

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 2>I know, I thought it was interesting when you were

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 2>saying that Bootsy was like, I just want to play

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 2>the music.

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know what I was doing in terms of

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 4>the business.

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 2>And that's you know what happens all the time. You

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 2>get musicians who they're not they're artistic souls, they're not

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 2>business minded folks, but yet it becomes a business. They're

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 2>they're not a businessman, they're a business man.

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Well said easy.

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 2>So I just feel for them and I feel for

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 2>him because it's like, that's how they get taken advantage of.

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, they want to focus on the Artaren.

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 4>What's your ridiculous takeaway.

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 3>That I have never been Bootsy Collins for Halloween?

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh? That is a crying shame, right, I mean.

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 3>How did I miss this one? I've got a lot

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 3>of fun costumes here. I've got something to look forward to,

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 3>all right, Well, as we wash away all of the

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 3>funket's here? And yes, can I get a talkback produce

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<v Speaker 3>a d.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh God?

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I love je.

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 7>Saren Elizabeth? Can I just say how amazing you guys

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 7>are one of my favorite podcasts ever. I stumbled on

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 7>you back in the time when you did the Frank

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 7>Sinolfred Junior kidnapping story, and I literally almost wanted to

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 7>pitch my pants. It was so funny and so ridiculous

0:48:57.719 --> 0:49:03.760
<v Speaker 7>in these times. I have to say, I respect everything you've.

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:09.800
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0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes you do love that, Yes I do. I do well.

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:16.360
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0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 4>need to we need to keep it loose these days, guys, we.

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.920
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