Speaker 1: Welcome back to Golden Hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Kathy, and Susan's here as well. How are you girl?
Speaker 1: Okay? I am great. I am loving World Cup, all
Speaker 1: things World Cup. I've never watched so much TV in
Speaker 1: my life. But I just have to say real quickly.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been caught in an elevator? Yes?
Speaker 2: I panic.
Speaker 1: I got caught in one last night. I was pounding
Speaker 1: on the door trying to get out. I was at
Speaker 1: Cindy's place in downtown Austin in the W Hotel. W Hotel.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, get your damn elevators fixed. It was
Speaker 1: the worst thing, Susan. I started panicking and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden I couldn't get outok.
Speaker 2: Enough to see if there was a trap door. Yeah,
Speaker 2: then you think I'm alone? How am I getting up there?
Speaker 1: No? And then I hit the help button and it
Speaker 1: kept dialing and going please hold, please hold, and like
Speaker 1: the fifth time it said, I'm sorry, there is no
Speaker 1: one to answer your call. I started wedding. I thought
Speaker 1: I'm going to die in an elevator, and then the
Speaker 1: thing shot up like like a jet. It just shot up,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh my god, now I'm going to
Speaker 1: go through the roof of the building. It stops at
Speaker 1: floor twenty and mister Adonis eric is his name, walks
Speaker 1: out and he walks into the elevator on the other side.
Speaker 1: It has, you know, two sides to get in and
Speaker 1: out of. He saw the panic in my eyes. He goes,
Speaker 1: I'll take you up, and he literally got in there.
Speaker 1: I literally thought, I've never been caught in an elevator before.
Speaker 2: It was scaryc It's scary. And then I keep thinking, well,
Speaker 2: you know, I have to have snacks. There's always snacks
Speaker 2: in my purse. What if I'm here for hours? What
Speaker 2: if I have to pee? I got to peel on
Speaker 2: the floor. I mean, what goes through your mind you're inside.
Speaker 1: It was brutal. Anyway, I'm fine today here.
Speaker 2: I'm just dealing with a lot of storms. My pool
Speaker 2: is at the very tippity top. I'm waiting for Dicky
Speaker 2: to come over and help me out and put the
Speaker 2: dream thing on. I don't even know how to do it.
Speaker 2: The pump it's about to overflow. We had so much
Speaker 2: rain in the last two days. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: But you know what World Cup takes, takes precedents of your.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, and fourth of July. How was
Speaker 2: your fourth?
Speaker 1: It was great. I had my son, Susan, don't fall
Speaker 1: over to dead thing. Guess what I did on July fourth?
Speaker 2: I already know you made food, Kathy. He called me
Speaker 2: about the Brussels sprouts.
Speaker 3: Out.
Speaker 1: That's all I need to I mean they were edible
Speaker 1: and for me, that's coming out I made. I made
Speaker 1: homemade brownies and Brussels sprouts and sweet potatoes. And then
Speaker 1: my son, wait, and my son who was a firefighter,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't know if I told you this.
Speaker 1: The grill caught on fire, like flames, and my daughter
Speaker 1: in laws looking at me and she's like, she said, Kathy,
Speaker 1: usually that panic you. I said, you kidd me. He's
Speaker 1: a firefighter. He'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: Literally, grills do that though. That's not your fault. You
Speaker 2: are excused, not your fault.
Speaker 1: Well, I did clean the grill yesterday top to bottom.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like all brand new again. All right,
Speaker 1: So what are we going? What do we do now?
Speaker 2: Moving right along, let's get into Bachelor Nation news. Okay,
Speaker 2: we had a really big week. First and foremost, let's
Speaker 2: talk about Katie Thurston. I mean, she's opening up talking
Speaker 2: about her cancer battle. What that girl has been through, Kathy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean Mark goes out.
Speaker 1: I gotta say for cancer. Yeah, I mean, well, her newest,
Speaker 1: her newest interview that she did, she talks about turning
Speaker 1: pain into purpose. Yes, and you know, here's my thought
Speaker 1: on this life. I have not had cancer, but my
Speaker 1: my very good friend, my neighbor beat breast cancer. And
Speaker 1: I think that her helping other women to get early detection. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh is a gift. It's It's one of those She's
Speaker 1: a public personality because of Bachelor. She's fighting her own battle,
Speaker 1: and yet she is saying how grateful she is to
Speaker 1: be helping to save others lives.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what she said. I saved somebody's life because
Speaker 2: people have actually DMed her and said without you saying
Speaker 2: these things, I would have never checked. It's the same
Speaker 2: when we came not the same, we're not talking cancer.
Speaker 2: But when we came off the show, how many people,
Speaker 2: how many women in this world that we spoke to
Speaker 2: saying that life is not over over sixty, like, you
Speaker 2: still have a lot more life to live. Sharing a
Speaker 2: message because we were given that platform is so important
Speaker 2: and everyone I know is still praying for Katie and
Speaker 2: she's still going along with this battle, and our hearts are.
Speaker 1: Our hearts with her. And let me tell you, if
Speaker 1: the more advocates we have to fight this dreaded disease,
Speaker 1: you know, my hat is off to you, Katie, keep
Speaker 1: fighting the good fight, and really thank you for being
Speaker 1: a voice for all the people that don't have a voice. Okay.
Speaker 1: Our next one is my Michael Alio. He discusses overcoming
Speaker 1: addiction after his late wife's passing. He said I was
Speaker 1: lost and he so. I have interviewed him on another podcast.
Speaker 1: He wrote a children's book. I did not know in
Speaker 1: the interview I did with him. I didn't know this
Speaker 1: until I read this article about him. He he talks
Speaker 1: about being a caregiver twenty four to seven and that
Speaker 1: he had to be the strong person. And then his
Speaker 1: wife Laura dies and he's kind this spot boy thirty three,
Speaker 1: he was thirty four. He's got this vast void and
Speaker 1: a two year old, and you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it's like, but I know you go from constantly
Speaker 1: carying like Joan, same thing with her Nancy. You go
Speaker 1: from constantly caring for your spouse taking him to a
Speaker 1: doctor's appointments to nothing, and so he got addicted to painkillers.
Speaker 1: And and he said it was a well kept secret.
Speaker 1: You know what blows my mind, Susan. He sent his
Speaker 1: son to a relative's house, locked himself in a room
Speaker 1: for a week, and went through the whatever you call
Speaker 1: DT's the detox by himself. He said he couldn't imagine
Speaker 1: that he would be a good father like that is
Speaker 1: a strong person. Yes, right, so I mean I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine, you know.
Speaker 2: The depression. I mean I could see it leading to
Speaker 2: other things and then realizing she's gone. I'm addicted to pills.
Speaker 2: I have a two year old I have to raise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Yeah. The other thing he said that blew
Speaker 1: my mind was that he was completely And I get
Speaker 1: this because the first year after my husband died, I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you what time it was. Literally I lost
Speaker 1: a year of my life. And he says the same thing.
Speaker 1: The first year he was numb and he doesn't remember anything.
Speaker 1: And he said actually having the pain come back made
Speaker 1: him feel alive. And I thought, you know, in a
Speaker 1: twisted way, that made total sense to me. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: Anyway, you know, we're glad that he has overcome that
Speaker 1: and his two year old son is now ten.
Speaker 2: And we're actually going to have him on a podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's going to be a lot more.
Speaker 1: We're going to know a whole lot more. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: going to move on into talking about one of my
Speaker 1: favorite topics, Susan, age gap relationships.
Speaker 2: Here we go, people.
Speaker 1: Ready, and so we're going to be talking about you
Speaker 1: know the right person if you know they are the
Speaker 1: right person. And one of those things in determining is age.
Speaker 1: So you know, an age gap relationship. You know, Susan, this,
Speaker 1: I've been very vocal about this. Yes, when we talk
Speaker 1: about age gap relationships, it's usually correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: An older man dating a much younger woman, do you agree?
Speaker 2: And nobody has a problem with it. Nobody, I mean
Speaker 2: unless it's like, excuse me, ridiculous, like it could be
Speaker 2: his daughterw some but nobody says too much. But when
Speaker 2: a woman dates ten fifteen years younger, I mean, they
Speaker 2: used to call them cougars. It wasn't cougar twenty years.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that the I don't know, I don't I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure it was twenty I don't even know if they
Speaker 2: used the name cougars anymore. But everybody has something to say.
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 1: Why? Listen, I'd love to be a cougar at that's
Speaker 1: something I have to I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, more power to her.
Speaker 1: Really, here's here is one of the things I think
Speaker 1: everyone has has an opinion, right, And I think when
Speaker 1: it comes to men, if you ask a man what's
Speaker 1: his age range?
Speaker 2: And I've seen it, if he's what sixty sixty five?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about our generation. If you say, hey,
Speaker 1: what's your age range? Susan, I will buy you a
Speaker 1: house at the beach. If I'm wrong, the answer you
Speaker 1: to the answer, but I'll be standing there with you.
Speaker 1: The answer always is, oh, you know, I'll go to
Speaker 1: fifty years old. If he's sixty five, you know, fifty
Speaker 1: is about his young As all date, they never say
Speaker 1: what the oldest woman they will date.
Speaker 2: They won't even say my age, right.
Speaker 1: That's right. But when you ask a woman, this has
Speaker 1: been my experience, when you ask a woman, they'll say, oh,
Speaker 1: i'll date a guy five years younger or five years older,
Speaker 1: like women will put a number around it. I think
Speaker 1: have you noticed that too or not?
Speaker 2: No? No, I haven't, Okay, we have it. I think
Speaker 2: most people would say, yeah, I'll date younger, but never
Speaker 2: give an exact and like you, if it were you,
Speaker 2: you'd say, well, how much younger?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And I used to think ten years, But I think
Speaker 2: when you're in your six or at least sixty five,
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters as much as like if
Speaker 2: you were younger, like when you're real young. Obviously we
Speaker 2: weren't allowed out with guys five years our senior, but
Speaker 2: after fifty even then that doesn't become as important. After
Speaker 2: sixty or sixty five, I don't think it matters.
Speaker 1: But well, I don't think it matters. But I think
Speaker 1: I'm standing on this one, and your house at the
Speaker 1: beach depends on it that men will date younger always
Speaker 1: if I and women will look at the guy like
Speaker 1: I don't like dating men my age, not because I
Speaker 1: have a problem with their age. I have a problem
Speaker 1: with their mobility. You know, I don't care if they
Speaker 1: have gray hair. I don't care if they're bald. I
Speaker 1: care that they can only walk from the couch to
Speaker 1: the refrigerator to get a beer and move back to
Speaker 1: the couch. Again, that's my.
Speaker 2: Problem, but I will sorry, go ahead no, you go ahead.
Speaker 2: I think it's funny because if it's somebody on TV,
Speaker 2: like a star and they're dating a younger, no, oh, everybody,
Speaker 2: that's cool. But if it's your next door neighbor, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a lot to say about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so not cool. You're right, and it's so funny.
Speaker 1: You said that because I did you know me? Kathy
Speaker 1: loves to research. Prianna Chopra. Chopra and Nick Jonas are married.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, guess who's older? She is by ten years? Yes,
Speaker 1: by ten years. And then how about Alec Baldwin there
Speaker 1: and Hillary Hillary, they're twenty six years apart, happily married.
Speaker 1: And then my favorite French president, Macrone with Bridgete. I
Speaker 1: think it's how you pronounce your name. They're twenty four
Speaker 1: years apart. Although I thought they got separated, but maybe
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: And they've been together. So what do you what's your
Speaker 2: thought on whether it lasts?
Speaker 1: My thought is I have to be famous and then
Speaker 1: I can find a younger guy.
Speaker 2: Or how much money there is involved?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I do think large age gaps can work,
Speaker 1: I truly do. But I think I think at our age,
Speaker 1: do you want I don't want to data guy. I
Speaker 1: would love to date a guy in their fifties if
Speaker 1: he's retired, even though that would be a big age difference.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to data guy who's working nine
Speaker 1: to five because I want to be able to travel
Speaker 1: and do stuff. That's where the age comes in for me.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And also I've always said if you go too young,
Speaker 2: you don't share the same values or the same you know,
Speaker 2: when you talk about your past, whether it's music. I
Speaker 2: think I've said that before, you don't have the same
Speaker 2: likes because it was a different error. Yeah, okay, So however,
Speaker 2: the younger is a good thing.
Speaker 1: We agree. Younger can be good. Age gap relationships can work.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to hit you with another one, Susan
Speaker 1: double standards. Why is it? Tell me why when an
Speaker 1: older man is with a younger woman, the guys give
Speaker 1: them a high five? You go, you know, you go, guy,
Speaker 1: But it's different than an older woman. What is the
Speaker 1: what's that doubley?
Speaker 2: I tell you? Okay, I don't think it's as much today.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, give me ten, twelve, fifteen years ago,
Speaker 2: it was taboo. You were like we said, the cougar
Speaker 2: and everybody's going to chat about it today. I don't
Speaker 2: think it matters as much. I mean, this world has
Speaker 2: changed so much, so.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, but I feel like the
Speaker 1: double standard is still out there. Maybe it's a little less, but.
Speaker 2: It's a little less, okay, I mean maybe because me personally,
Speaker 2: I have dated younger and nobody had anything to say
Speaker 2: about it, or at least I didn't hear it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I know people that you know what I will say, friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. And I've had a couple of younger guys,
Speaker 1: significantly young.
Speaker 2: Reach out to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, reach out to me, and you actually have encouraged
Speaker 1: me to date them, and I've said, are you kidding?
Speaker 1: Even though I was interested. They have kids at home, and.
Speaker 2: That's why that's the whole another. Yes, we can't be
Speaker 2: raising somebody else's kids in our sixties or seventies.
Speaker 1: I agree. But I do think women over sixty, to
Speaker 1: your points is and are are more interested now than
Speaker 1: they were ten fifteen years ago in dating younger men.
Speaker 2: And I love the person that says, well, I would
Speaker 2: never do that. You don't know, Darling, until either your
Speaker 2: spouse passes or say you get a divorce until you're
Speaker 2: looking again. That's only then are you allowed to make
Speaker 2: that statement. Do you know what I'm saying? Because you're
Speaker 2: not out there, you're not trying to meet somebody, and
Speaker 2: it's not that easy.
Speaker 1: Okay? So do you think I agree with you? Do
Speaker 1: you think there is an age gap that you would
Speaker 1: raise your eyebrows and go, oh, come on, this is
Speaker 1: over the top?
Speaker 2: I mean yes, when you get the little sugar mama,
Speaker 2: the sugar daddy thing, when they're girl's twenty seven and
Speaker 2: he's seventy seven. That's when.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean like Bill Belichick, who is my age?
Speaker 1: Who's dating a twenty four year old? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I'd raise an eyebrow too. But you know what,
Speaker 2: you know who I am Kay's.
Speaker 1: Granddaughter, You do you? I don't care if I'm being
Speaker 1: honest here, and you know I is m How do
Speaker 1: you think that makes women like me feel? What chance
Speaker 1: do we do I have.
Speaker 2: Since for somebody to look your way? Because going after
Speaker 2: all the young girls also though when they're getting older
Speaker 2: and more tired and slowing down, they're the young girl
Speaker 2: still in her prime and she might not want that.
Speaker 2: You know that you have to think a long term.
Speaker 2: But maybe that's they're not thinking.
Speaker 1: They either are thinking long term or they're looking at
Speaker 1: the last checkbook number in the chats.
Speaker 2: But moving right along it. We'll be lucky. Look, I'll
Speaker 2: be happy if anybody comes you know of us, Amen, girl,
Speaker 2: We're going to get into the Golden hotline.
Speaker 1: Now, you know.
Speaker 2: Each week, everybody we do answer questions from our listeners
Speaker 2: and we try to give them our expert golden advice. Kathy,
Speaker 2: would you like to start with the first one?
Speaker 1: All right, I'll go with the first one. This is
Speaker 1: from anonymous. Hi, ladies, please keep this anonymous. I've been
Speaker 1: living with my boyfriend for almost two years, now together
Speaker 1: almost four He makes I guess they've been together for
Speaker 1: four years, but living together for two years. Okay, he
Speaker 1: makes significantly more than I do. We are both in
Speaker 1: our fifties. Every summer he pays for a weekly beach
Speaker 1: rental for his kids, and always in fight my kids
Speaker 1: as well. I brought up recently how we may want
Speaker 1: to look at another week next summer as my best
Speaker 1: friends and is getting married and it will be the
Speaker 1: time he usually books a rental for his beach week.
Speaker 1: He likes doing the same week every year. He was appalled,
Speaker 1: Oh god, I would ask to change his weeks. He
Speaker 1: said that he pays for the vacation and I should
Speaker 1: not have a say in changing the weeks. I felt
Speaker 1: money shamed, as if I can't speak up about our
Speaker 1: vacations because he pays for it. Am I being too sensitive?
Speaker 1: Should I sit back and not bring this up again?
Speaker 1: He actually said that I should go to the wedding
Speaker 1: by myself and to come to the vacation rental after
Speaker 1: the wedding. I'm hurt. I feel unheard. What would you
Speaker 1: do in this situation? Susan's mouth is wide open, and
Speaker 1: while she's thinking, I'm gonna say, dearie, two years you've
Speaker 1: been with this man. Two years too long living with him?
Speaker 1: Wait to boot him to the curb.
Speaker 2: For her to say I feel unheard. Scratch that off
Speaker 2: and erased that you were heard?
Speaker 1: Man, you were honey.
Speaker 2: What I want to know? Is it one of her
Speaker 2: friends or their friends that's say it's a mass son?
Speaker 2: Well no, but I'm going I'm trying here. This is
Speaker 2: me trying. Okay, this is me trying because my first
Speaker 2: thought you don't want to know, but my glass is
Speaker 2: on for this one, because I cannot freaking believe that
Speaker 2: this dude, if it's not I mean, if they were
Speaker 2: friends together, all of them, let's reread that. Go back
Speaker 2: to where.
Speaker 1: Let me make this really simple.
Speaker 3: He has my.
Speaker 2: Best friend's son. It's her best friend, so he could
Speaker 2: give a shit less because it's her best friend and
Speaker 2: I don't like to day to that. No problem, honey,
Speaker 2: I'm going to rent a place a different week. Well
Speaker 2: that's not that's not cool at all.
Speaker 1: She said. He makes significantly more money. Here's my take
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 2: Obviously, he he.
Speaker 1: Earns a lot of money. He brings this kid for
Speaker 1: the same week. This is why I'm single. This would
Speaker 1: I would see red. I would be like a bull
Speaker 1: on it's running the you know, running the pemplone in pemplone.
Speaker 1: I would just be going for the friend. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who the friend is. He rents it for his
Speaker 1: children to come and invites her children to come. He
Speaker 1: sounds like a guy who is rigid beyond belief and
Speaker 1: an anonymous. What I would tell you is you, as
Speaker 1: Susan said, you were well heard and you really got
Speaker 1: to look at Are you willing to put up and
Speaker 1: shut up? Or do you want to make a big
Speaker 1: thing about it, I personally would not would would make
Speaker 1: a big thing of it because.
Speaker 2: I would have the discussion again. Yeah, but if you
Speaker 2: don't win, I look so hot when I left that
Speaker 2: beach house for that wedding, and I might have to
Speaker 2: get a room because I'm not driving all the way back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but understand that this sounds to me like she
Speaker 1: said she was money shame, Susan.
Speaker 2: He sounds like an asshole.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Anonymous. The OZ has spoken. It is time
Speaker 1: to get back on the yellow brick road and move
Speaker 1: away from Emerald City.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, Anonymous. But yeah, good And if you
Speaker 2: put up with that, you're gonna put up with a
Speaker 2: lot more.
Speaker 1: What did I say to you when I said why
Speaker 1: you had your mouth hanging? I said, here's the answer, Anonymous.
Speaker 1: Kick him to the curb. But here's what I'm guessing, Susan,
Speaker 1: before we move on real quickly, this is typical of
Speaker 1: many women, many couples at different ages. One and it's
Speaker 1: usually the man. It's you know, the old the old
Speaker 1: it's glass ceiling for women. The man earns the money
Speaker 1: and she I'm guessing I'm reading between the lines. She's
Speaker 1: got to stick around because she can't make it on
Speaker 1: her own.
Speaker 2: That I'm saying. She can't make the vacation.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He earns significantly more so living
Speaker 1: together with him, they have a comfortable life.
Speaker 2: Maybe pants.
Speaker 1: He wears the pants because he earns more money. And
Speaker 1: just say, know what, what about the babe? Seriously, this
Speaker 1: is my best friend. Honey, have a little.
Speaker 2: We could go the week before the week after, please, babe.
Speaker 1: You know, Susan, I don't care if it's the postman's
Speaker 1: cousin getting married. If you're invited to a wedding as
Speaker 1: a couple, and he won't change the week a year out,
Speaker 1: give me a break. You have to move on. I'm
Speaker 1: getting I right here.
Speaker 2: I wish you luck, honey. Let us know how you
Speaker 2: made up, all right. The next one is from Hailey. Hi,
Speaker 2: Susan and Kathy. My name is Haley and I am
Speaker 2: twenty one. I have a thing that I need some
Speaker 2: advice on. So there is this guy who in the
Speaker 2: past I have talked to and liked being around, but
Speaker 2: I had to break it off twice. Nonetheless, I felt
Speaker 2: like we didn't have a connection, liked the same things whatever,
Speaker 2: and he was also overly religious, which I am not
Speaker 2: bad mouthing that. I mean, it's normally a good thing.
Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden he reached back out
Speaker 2: to me asking how am I doing and wants to
Speaker 2: reconnect with me again, And I feel like I want to,
Speaker 2: but then again, I am afraid if something goes wrong again,
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to feel like I'm hurting him.
Speaker 2: I love your podcast so much. This is greatly appreciated.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think, Susan?
Speaker 2: First? My first thought is is she's sitting home alone
Speaker 2: and didn't meet anybody else. Is that why she's giving
Speaker 2: this another chance? Like, don't do it for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 2: But if you think he changed, I don't think that's
Speaker 2: the case because I'm learning and it took me sixty
Speaker 2: nine years to know they don't change, right, trust me?
Speaker 1: And Haley. Let me just add on to Susan's wisdom
Speaker 1: here by telling you that when a man, I don't
Speaker 1: care if you're twenty one, forty one, sixty one, or
Speaker 1: eighty one plus, when a man shows you who he is,
Speaker 1: believe him the first time. So you I love you, Haley. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, you're a beautiful twenty one year old, but
Speaker 1: I would say you might be slightly delusional if you
Speaker 1: think that he is, you're going to go back for
Speaker 1: the third time and it's going to be the charm
Speaker 1: it isn't he is who he is. I think you're
Speaker 1: Susan's right that you guys don't share the same values.
Speaker 1: The religion bit, that that you're not connecting with him.
Speaker 1: I think Susan's right. I think maybe Haley, you need.
Speaker 2: To love hearing that. By the way, do you hear that?
Speaker 1: Say it again, Susan, you're so right today, right his rain.
Speaker 1: But I honestly think that you're right Susan that, Haley,
Speaker 1: I think you're probably lonely because why would you go
Speaker 1: back with the guy where you don't share values, You
Speaker 1: don't connect. He's overly religious, which, as you said, not
Speaker 1: a bad thing, but it's it doesn't match up with
Speaker 1: what you want. So I would say to you, something
Speaker 1: goes wrong again. Yeah, if something goes wrong again, it
Speaker 1: will go wrong again, Haley. So why don't you take
Speaker 1: your adorable twenty one year old personality and get out
Speaker 1: and find some activities and move on. And you know what,
Speaker 1: write him and say I'm really sorry whatever your name is,
Speaker 1: but I've moved on and I wish you only the best,
Speaker 1: and then block his number, block him on social mem
Speaker 1: Yes you do that, but oh I.
Speaker 2: Do unless he's harassing because you know what.
Speaker 1: Happened, Susan. You get drunk one night and you go
Speaker 1: help maybe because called drunk Hilly.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for enjoying our podcast number one
Speaker 2: and sharing that with us.
Speaker 1: And thank you so much for allowing Susan to be
Speaker 1: right on one.
Speaker 2: Of these Okay, moving almost a time.
Speaker 1: I know, I know I'm hurrying. I'm all hurry. This
Speaker 1: is a story and no advice. Okay, people will totally
Speaker 1: know this is me. But whatever. One ex who broke
Speaker 1: up with me right before we were supposed to move
Speaker 1: to an island together during the pandemic, I still moved
Speaker 1: into the place we rented because I needed to quarantine,
Speaker 1: but then found my own much smaller apartment a couple
Speaker 1: of blocks away, thinking he would just change his plans
Speaker 1: and not move there, but instead he still moved there
Speaker 1: with his new girlfriend that he got immediately after we
Speaker 1: broke up, moved her into the place we had rented together. Then,
Speaker 1: after dating her for about a year and seeing me
Speaker 1: daily on this small island. He planned to move with
Speaker 1: her to Europe, and a couple of days before their move,
Speaker 1: he broke up with her to date her now ex friend,
Speaker 1: and then she still went to Europe like I had
Speaker 1: gone to the island, and he went to Europe with
Speaker 1: his new girl. This man has a crazy pattern. And
Speaker 1: now me and the first girlfriend after me are friends.
Speaker 1: So all worked out great for us. And the story
Speaker 1: she has shared with me about what he told her
Speaker 1: about me are crazy?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, isn't that so typical?
Speaker 1: Though? You know what this sounds like to me, Susan,
Speaker 1: it's happen. It sounds like an episode of Bachelor and
Speaker 1: Paradise Gone Awry gone absolutely?
Speaker 2: How about the two girls remaining friends? That that's what
Speaker 2: happens because there was nothing wrong with the women. It's
Speaker 2: that man and the poor one that went to Europe
Speaker 2: with the ex ex girlfriend. Good luck, baby, Now you
Speaker 2: got to move from Europe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what you're gonna be out the
Speaker 1: door next to. So good for you girls for being friends,
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that story.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you and you know everybody how to do this?
Speaker 2: Submit your burning questions to Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour,
Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about.
Speaker 1: Them, okay, and we love hearing from you, so yeah,
Speaker 1: please do Okay, Susan, Yeah boy, we're back this week.
Speaker 1: We are the gals, the Mimi and Kiki of the world. Googling.
Speaker 1: It's the slang word of the week we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about. Okay. The first one is and really are
Speaker 1: people using? This would be my question? But the first
Speaker 1: one is called standing on business, which means following through
Speaker 1: on what you say. Well, hell, I've been standing on
Speaker 1: business since my kids were You don't eat your dinner,
Speaker 1: you get no TV boy. I followed through with what
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 2: What you see is what you get. If I say
Speaker 2: I'm doing it, I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: Okay, But I have to give you can I just
Speaker 1: give you the best example as an adult?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: And then I want to hear yours. I stood on
Speaker 1: business when Keith and I were on Bachelor in Paradise
Speaker 1: last summer and money got introduced, and do you remember
Speaker 1: because I showed it on TV. Keith and I sat
Speaker 1: and talked and we were like, we are not taking
Speaker 1: money out of these kids' hands now. I kind of
Speaker 1: wish they did. By the way, I see them money,
Speaker 1: I see them traveling to the hell all over Europe,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what that was I thinking? But that's
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. I stood on business, meaning I
Speaker 1: followed through. We said we weren't going to take the
Speaker 1: money out of those kids' hands, and we didn't.
Speaker 2: We start to the same thing as keeping your word,
Speaker 2: you're standing on business.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just it's pop culture, Susan. We can't.
Speaker 1: We have to change things that mean the same thing,
Speaker 1: but give it a new word.
Speaker 2: Show me some kids that stand on business. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they got that.
Speaker 1: Yes, Who can you think of anybody in the reality world.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I don't know.
Speaker 3: No Brown when she moved the podium, huh did you
Speaker 3: ever see that, Hannah Brown moving the podium?
Speaker 2: No, moving the podium to adjust her.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, We're going to circle back on
Speaker 1: this later.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, because I do want to know that
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, the best example I can think of reality
Speaker 1: TV is like Dotton and Charity getting engaged. Katie and
Speaker 1: Zach they said, and and uh.
Speaker 2: Joey and they say.
Speaker 1: They're getting married, and they're getting married. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I can't. That doesn't hold true for the Goldens.
Speaker 2: But okay, well, why don't you try this one? That's
Speaker 2: my Roman Empire? Oh, something that you're constantly thinking about?
Speaker 1: Kathy? No, I actually haven't. But you know what came
Speaker 1: to my mind when you read that Rome was not
Speaker 1: built in the day and and you know I always
Speaker 1: the cutest men in Rome, and that could be my
Speaker 1: Roman Empire. Yikes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think about constantly. Would be food? Food be my
Speaker 2: Roman Empire.
Speaker 1: Food? What would mind be?
Speaker 2: Yours would be non food? You're walking getting five miles
Speaker 2: in that. She thinks about it constantly, about her weight,
Speaker 2: about her size, about her strength.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget my horrible hair. Oh I've never heard that.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of Susan?
Speaker 2: I really haven't.
Speaker 1: No, that's my Roman Empire. I mean all I can
Speaker 1: think of is with I think about constantly, like i'd
Speaker 1: like to have a date with a nice guy. I
Speaker 1: don't think about it constantly, but I think about it.
Speaker 2: They're saying a few years ago they found out men
Speaker 2: think about Roman Empire all the time. So men have
Speaker 2: a one track mine is.
Speaker 3: That I'm going to give you a little lore on
Speaker 3: the Roman Empire. So it was all over social media
Speaker 3: because girls would ask guys like what they think about
Speaker 3: all the time. Most of the time a man will
Speaker 3: respond with the Roman Empire. I don't know why they
Speaker 3: do that, but I think a lot of women have
Speaker 3: responded that, and things that they thought about online were
Speaker 3: like Princess Diana, they think about the Titanic, they think
Speaker 3: about you know, all of those types of things are
Speaker 3: like their big Roman Empire that they consistently think about
Speaker 3: from the past or in general. But men have like
Speaker 3: a track record of only thinking about the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2: Men think about one thing and one thing only sex
Speaker 2: now themselves. Women are softer, strong, but softer and more emotional.
Speaker 2: We lead with emotion. Men lead with I don't think. Okay,
Speaker 2: So on air, with that being said, I want to
Speaker 2: tell everyone thank you so much for joining us today,
Speaker 2: and I think this is going to be a wrap.
Speaker 1: I would like to say that I need to go
Speaker 1: because I need to go build my Roman Empire. But
Speaker 1: in the meantime, make sure to rate, review and subscribe
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Speaker 2: And you can follow Golden Hour on social media, at
Speaker 2: Batler Happy Hour, end at Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 1: Until our Roman Empire is built.
Speaker 2: I'll be thinking about the Titanic now. I'm gonna want
Speaker 2: to watch it again.
Speaker 1: Have a good week, everybody.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,