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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season to fifty five,

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Speaker 1: episode four of Dirt Da l'sy guys, stay production of

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Speaker 1: I heart radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is

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Speaker 1: Thursday September twenty two. My name is Jack O'Brien AK

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Speaker 1: popping this vowl, though it's as big as a whale

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Speaker 1: and it's about to set sale. You want a new car,

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Speaker 1: we got about twenty so come on and use your

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Speaker 1: kids school money. Well, the LEA's shack is a little

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Speaker 1: old place where we fuck Jack O'Brian, get fucked Jackie,

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Speaker 1: get fucked Jack Abe. That is to see. UH lex movie,

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Speaker 1: Mr Lububi, is based on my recent I'm coming to

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Speaker 1: the end of my current car are and new leases

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Speaker 1: hard to come by, very expensive, and they did in

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Speaker 1: fact sing this song when I when I entered the

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Speaker 1: Volvo leasing. I didn't realize volvos are like crazy, wild,

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Speaker 1: expensive cars. So, anyways, I will not be driving a Ballbo.

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Speaker 1: I can tell everybody that much. I'm thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined by a very special guest, Co host, the producer

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Speaker 1: behind shows like fake doctor's real friends and welcome to

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Speaker 1: our show. You've heard her on pop culture, Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: a comic Com metapod. It's the brilliant, the talented Joel Mon. Hello, hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I have excited news for the listener.

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Speaker 1: Bass you guys actually help send me to the Toronto

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Speaker 1: International Films I saw a bunch of movies and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to report on them here very soon. Reporting back.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get the woman king you. You're getting

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Speaker 1: a very spicy, my police man interview where I don't

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Speaker 1: usually dunk on a movie so hard unless it absolutely

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Speaker 1: deserves it. So I cracked my knuckles on this one.

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Speaker 1: I said, here we go, it's time to a viscerate

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Speaker 1: a film. That fellow being Harry styles massive. All right. Well,

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Speaker 1: what I love about movies movies feel like movies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you know you go watch a movie, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you just like this for you not like a movie.

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Speaker 1: It feels like I'm reading a book. But now this

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Speaker 1: movie felt like a movie when you watch it. Wow,

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Speaker 1: this moving film. We usually we don't bring in audio,

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Speaker 1: but that that is this early. But that that is

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Speaker 1: audio of a recent Harry styles quote. He sounds smart. Hey,

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Speaker 1: who's that? In our third seed, a very funny comedian,

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Speaker 1: the host of the podcast the prodcast, pod yourself a gun,

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Speaker 1: and now pod yourself the wire. It's Matt, I'm here, baby,

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Speaker 1: I'm here and uh, you know, good to be back

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Speaker 1: and you know, I was here just the other day

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Speaker 1: and you guys, we're just like man, Matt, you've got

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Speaker 1: to come back immediately because you just crushed it in

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Speaker 1: the the guest leave. Yeah, you know, more leave, more leave,

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Speaker 1: the better. So the time that I can get a

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Speaker 1: little more lead time on that yet. And thanks for

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Speaker 1: plugging the you know, the pod pod yourself the wire,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, you were on pod yourself a gun,

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Speaker 1: our Sopranos Rewatch Podcast, and Uh, we did all the

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Speaker 1: episodes and now we're at the wire. So, uh, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna need both of you guys to come on and

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Speaker 1: talk about the wire at some point. It is my

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Speaker 1: favorite shows. It's a great show. It's a great show.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing. If you're listening to this right

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Speaker 1: And if you're like, I don't want to listen to

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Speaker 1: the podcast, that's fine. The most important thing is just

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Speaker 1: giving us five stars in a review on the apple

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Speaker 1: podcast store. That's all I care. Press play on the

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Speaker 1: episode and then muted and then walk away, because it's

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Speaker 1: literally it's an act of charity to do those things.

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Speaker 1: Please help. I have a baby. Yeah, there. There aren't

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Speaker 1: that many movie TV podcasts that I will give the

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Speaker 1: go ahead and listen to this even if you're not

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Speaker 1: watching the show, but yours is one of them, because

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Speaker 1: it is a comedy show and it's fun. It's fun

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Speaker 1: to listen to, although you should watch the fucking wire

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Speaker 1: in the S, absolutely watch it's get into it to

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Speaker 1: not watch those shows just because it's like, well, I mean, what, what?

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Speaker 1: What else are you watching? What's in the way of those?

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Speaker 1: Nothing you're watching is as good as either the Sopranos

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Speaker 1: as good as those two rewatch podcasts. Bought Yourself of

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Speaker 1: God and bought yourself the wire. So please help. With

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Speaker 1: I don't want to start a beef here, Matt, but no,

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Speaker 1: there's no beef, but it's like, you know, you guys,

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Speaker 1: seen in various dailies guys comments sections like how come

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Speaker 1: misunderstanding it as a wire rewatch podcast. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: any of these episodes about the wire where the Queen

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Speaker 1: But there's plenty of the wire goes hey wire episodes.

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Speaker 1: the segments where you could be coming on telling us

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Speaker 1: that that will all be happening soon. And Matt, we're

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Speaker 1: they did all use talcum powder and slowly by slowly,

420
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: they've kind of done an investigation into this and turns

421
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: out Johnson and Johnson in the industry at large, has

422
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: kind of known that this was happening for a long time,

423
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: since the sixties and Seventies. It's it wouldn't be quite

424
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: right to say they ignored the risk for years, because

425
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: they actually, you know, paid lobbyists, one who was making

426
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: four point five million dollars a year. who were going

427
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: to come back to that guy to help fight attempts

428
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: by the FDAT to limit the amount of asbestos in

429
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: their baby powder. So Smit in baby powder limited. Don't

430
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: take it all out, but just, you know, have like

431
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: a just a little bit of asbestos as a tree. Yeah,

432
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: and it really is that. This pieces kind of eye

433
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: opening about how the U S citizens are uniquely unprotected

434
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to being abused and killed by corporations

435
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: for profit. In this case, the F D A and

436
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: government organizations are just so vastly underfunded compared to these

437
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: massive industry lobbying firms. So, just to quote from the article,

438
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: the responsibility for regulating the eight five billion dollar cosmetics

439
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: industry falls to the F D A's division of cosmetics,

440
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: which has thirty employees and an annual budget of less

441
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: than ten million dollars. Oh my God, Oh Lloyd. And

442
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: then when you compare how how much is that, lobbyists

443
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: got paid? Yeah, you got paid half that, half of

444
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: the FDA's entire budget, and that was one lobbyists. They

445
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: have the entire cities of lobbyists working on making whatever

446
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: they do as profitable as possible without any regard for

447
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: the customers of the you know what happens the ethics

448
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: of the situation. It's all just sweeping ship under the rug.

449
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: When when you look at the results of of what

450
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: that budget mismatch results in. So in other countries, more

451
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: than eighty countries, from the United Kingdom to Cambodia to Mimr,

452
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: have enacted stronger cosmetics regulations than the United States. And

453
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: whereas some countries regulators have banned more than twenty four

454
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: hundred cosmetics ingredients, from parabins to from how to hide,

455
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: the FDA has banned or restricted fewer than a dozen. Wow, wow,

456
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like you get to a point

457
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: with the FDA where you're just like, I'm not sure

458
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: if you can just defy having a building that you know,

459
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: that you go to work in every day, that you

460
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: know like cut a little bit of the the excess

461
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: fat on on rent and just put that towards having

462
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: more people to do regulations or properly fund them in

463
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: the first place, like oh well, that's never it's super maddening,

464
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: I think, especially when it's kind of so clear just

465
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: as like an average consumer, people are like eager to

466
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Speaker 1: purchase you know, Japanese sweets or sweets from the UK,

467
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: because they actually make sure that you're not eating just

468
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: process junk all the time, thought and consideration, very little

469
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: formalde hide and British chocolate for some reason. It's really strange.

470
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: It also wouldn't check all the but so I'm making

471
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: the argument this is the most American story I've ever read.

472
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely it wouldn't check all the American boxes if it

473
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: didn't involve human caging and J and J too, baby

474
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: powder and baby shampoo on prisoners in Philadelphia, both by

475
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: giving them little cuts and putting the products in there

476
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: were dripping baby shampoo directly into their eyes. Oh Great God,

477
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: what love to hear that. They tested it like that.

478
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: That's how they tested it, and paid them like small,

479
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: small amounts of money, like criminally. But it's been good. Yeah,

480
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: it's been proven that Johnson and Johnson new TALC probably

481
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: caused cancer. The article repeats these stories where a tumor

482
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 1: is found, they biopsy it, they find that the tumor

483
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: has talc in it. has talked in the tumor and Johnson,

484
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: Johnson and the industry is repeatedly like, yeah, your sample

485
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: was corrupted. Sorry, we. Yeah, just like that happens repeatedly.

486
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: They find TALC in the tumor. They say you're sample

487
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: is corrupted. Yeah then, no, that's on you. That's on you.

488
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: That's there's no way that it could be our delicious

489
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: Talco powder filled with asbestos. Yes, their internal documents where

490
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: somebody WHO's pretty high up is like, Hey, this actually

491
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: doesn't really make financial sense at this point because we

492
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: are going to get sued. It does look like this

493
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: causes cancer. Let's switch to corn starch, which is cheaper

494
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: and basically as effective. And then nobody like replies to

495
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: that and instead, like the next thread is all about

496
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: like them doubling down on marketing it too black people,

497
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: overweight people and women. Yeah, here's some fun stuff. NBR

498
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: reported on so, according to so, they were being sued

499
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: by like the deligration of Negro women. That showed like

500
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: six black women used baby powder in two thousand six

501
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: as opposed to of the overall population, which is nuts.

502
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: They wanted to market to southern US people, for the

503
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: curvy southern woman, and considered signing Patty labelle or Aretha

504
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: Franklin as spokespeople, which is just so frustrating. I mean

505
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: and they went after people they systematically usually cannot file lawsuits.

506
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: They went exactly after a population that was, you know, like, Oh,

507
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: they'll die and it'll be fine because no one will

508
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: blame us, or their lives aren't valued in the United States.

509
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: They specifically, when you talk about the like how popular

510
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: it is in black communities, they specifically went to market

511
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: it at churches, like giving doing giveaways at churches to

512
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: reach that demographic but, and they're probably so. There have

513
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: been these billion dollar lawsuits that some of them, Johnson

514
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: and Johnson is lost. Like they don't lose all of

515
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: them because they have, of course, just massive, massive legal

516
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: teams that are able to, you know, just shoot holes

517
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: in all these things and claim the samples are corrupted

518
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, just call into question the idea

519
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: of DNA evidence, you know, that sort of ship or

520
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: reality or reality. What? What do we know about anything really? Yeah, exactly.

521
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: What the bleep do we know? You know, quantum physics,

522
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: that ship. So the the other thing there they did

523
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: this thing where they created a new company that they

524
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: then like made responsible for all of the lawsuits and

525
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: legal liability and then that company declared bankruptcy Bonson and

526
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: is responsible for. Basically, they like put on a mask

527
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's it makes the idea of Lee. It's

528
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: called the Texas, two steps and legal circles, and it

529
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: basically makes the idea of legal liability useless. It was

530
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: started by the Koch brothers in their comody. So you know,

531
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: you know it's good, but don't you think they have

532
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: just like a little evil boardroom where they get together

533
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: and they're just like, you got any more scams that

534
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: will harm the world? And they're like yeah, I got

535
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: a few more. Straight up, that is what that is,

536
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: what most like, that is what most jobs are and

537
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: United States it's not just that there's an evil boardroom,

538
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: it is that that that is where people make their money.

539
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: That is the money behind wealthy people, and when you

540
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: don't know where the wealthy people's money is coming from,

541
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: there's usually a good reason for that. But so what

542
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: they do is they created that new company to like,

543
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, hold all the legal liability and then that

544
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: company essentially that company, that company, then declares bankruptcy. And

545
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: so you know, Johnson and Johnson is in the with

546
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: respect to these lawsuits, is technically bankrupt. If this goes through,

547
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: Um meanwhile, their most recent quarterly report shows twenty four

548
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: billion in sales, but they can, you know, continue to

549
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: kill people with impunity. Once that, once this case goes

550
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court, which has repeatedly, over and over

551
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: and over again, found for, you know, corporations having more

552
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: rights than human beings and, in this case, finding for

553
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: corporations to be able to sell a product called baby

554
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: powder that causes cancer. Fuck me, yeah, but I do.

555
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: So I want to go back to that original lobbyist

556
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: who came on in the seventies. When they were first seeing,

557
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: seeing this possibility that this was a bad thing for

558
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: them and that they might be in trouble, they hired

559
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: this Um lobbying firm. It was like a conglomerate of

560
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: like lobbyists that this person came together and like became

561
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: the head of, and he, you know, came up with

562
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: all these ingenious legal strategies to make it so corporations

563
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: could poison women's reproductive organ organs and other other ship

564
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: that that person's name, who's making four and a half

565
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: million dollars a year to do, you know, literally the

566
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: Devil's work was e Edward Kavanaugh, and when he would

567
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: come home from his job of, you know, helping these

568
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: companies poison people with impunity, his son would be lifting

569
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: weights in the garage. No, Tobin, because his son was

570
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh. God fucking it's a thing wrap. Yeah, Oh, man,

571
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: this family has to we need okay, he has to

572
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: come and answer some questions. Kavin, Nah, I say NA,

573
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: like can we just Oh, oh, I'm not gonna say anything.

574
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: That would give me in trouble. But this just like

575
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: a line of evil. Like, how many generations of evil

576
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: are we talking here? Did you this is now? What

577
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: do his dad do? A great question. was part of

578
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: that whole group of people who try to take over

579
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: behind states in World War Two? They tried to hire

580
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: Snidgley whiplash too. What was that Guy's name? It wasn't

581
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: snidgy whiplash, but yeah, it was something close to that. Dude.

582
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: They tried to hire a general to overthrow FDR because

583
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: they thought he was too hard on businesses. But we

584
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: we actually don't know if they're related to that person

585
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: or not, but it is. You know that he gets

586
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: paid absurd amounts of money, makes all these connections and

587
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: I do think like not only is it just nepotism

588
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: of him being extremely wealthy getting to send his son

589
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: to the best private schools, but also he is doing

590
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: dirt behind the scenes for very powerful people. He knows

591
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: where the bodies are buried and therefore that like I

592
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: think it's underrated how much that goes into it. Is

593
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: By being like a team player who knows where the

594
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: bodies is buried. Maybe helped you bury some of those

595
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: bodies or was the architect of like your your plot

596
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: to just bury bodies all over all of America. You

597
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: know that that adds extra stuff like that adds extra

598
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 1: credit to your name. Like there there's a theory out there.

599
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: You know George H W Bush was hadn't really like

600
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: done much with the CIA before he became the head

601
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: of the CIA, but what he like the only mention

602
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: of his name in association with the CIA was on

603
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: the day JFK was killed, like they were like we

604
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: have a man in Dallas, George Bush, who like was

605
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: somehow involved, and so like that that always kind of

606
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: added some extra texture to just his whole story. And

607
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: like like the people who do help you get away

608
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: with the worst stuff then get to be the most

609
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: powerful people where their kids to be the most powerful people.

610
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: And now this person who helped Johnson and Johnson literally

611
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: like poison the ovaries of women is now has now,

612
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, become a Supreme Court justice and is regulating

613
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: and systemically dismantling protection for women's health. Yeah, it's like,

614
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, if you're willing to do dirt to, uh,

615
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: you know, help big business, yeah, you can make it

616
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: really far in America. You know, they love that, they

617
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: love they love a good team player and uh Oh, yeah,

618
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: the only thing I can find on Edwards Sr is

619
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: that he went to Yale, and Brett Kavanagh perjured himself

620
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: when he said he had no connection to Yale, because

621
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: he was in fact a legacy. Of course, Edward E.

622
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: Edward Kavanaugh senior. Yeah, GRANDPA, his GRANDPA, got it. Yeah,

623
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: because it's his dad is junior. Got It. Okay. Yeah,

624
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: so that's something to keep an eye on, is whether

625
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court allows this Texas two step thing, because

626
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: once they do, it's really not safe for anyone in

627
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: the United States because corporations will be able to kill

628
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: us with impunity and no liability. And Yeah, I mean

629
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: right now. Johnson and Johnson, like I said, their most

630
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: recent quarterly reports. Just four billion dollars in sales. They've

631
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: declared bankruptcy and are essentially off the hook for all

632
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Speaker 1: the people they're killing. And One woman a day has

633
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: died waiting to find out if their case against the

634
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: company would ever be heard. So super good, super good.

635
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Speaker 1: I looked up to see if I could boycott Johnson

636
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: and Johnson. The answer is yes, you obviously could, but

637
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: with difficulty. They own Thailand all and in all fandom

638
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: being bye. I know they do a Vino just skin loves.

639
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: I know it's good. It's good stuff. Unfortunately, God damn it.

640
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: All right. Well, see, this is why I do a

641
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: TV rewatch podcast. Man, God damn depressing. Oh Man, I

642
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: find it invigorating, though. Like's, they're so openly that, like

643
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: it is what you think when you're a kid and

644
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: you're like the bad guys and good guys, and then

645
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: when you come around and like they teach you, Oh,

646
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: it's actually, you know, pretty complicated, and then you learn

647
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: more and you're like no, it's actually not. There are

648
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: bad guys there, I remember. So I started watching the

649
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: new Lord of the Ring Show and uh, and then

650
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: I re watched the Lord of the rings movies. And

651
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: I've heard some people critiques of Lord of the Rings

652
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: in general as being like kind of like not, it's

653
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: just war for the sake of good versus evil. There's

654
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: no like, you know, it's not about a particular power struggle,

655
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, for a throne like game of thrones. It's

656
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: not about like, Um, you know, it doesn't get in

657
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: depth as to understand that the main motivation is evil. Yeah,

658
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: like why are the over why are the ORCS the

659
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: way that they are? Wise, you know, sour on the

660
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: way is. But then, you know, in rewatching it, I

661
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: remember I just realized I was like no, but that's

662
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: because there are ORCs, there are ghouls and they do

663
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: run things. Do need to all band together and destroy

664
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: more Goth and yeah, alright, well, we are gonna come

665
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: back and talk TV and movies. We'll be right back.

666
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: And we're back and we recently, as recently as a

667
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: few episodes ago, when Matt you were on. We we

668
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: talked about movies verse TV. My feeling that I am

669
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: missing out because I just have this bias against TV,

670
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: like down to the frame rate, just down to like

671
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: what TV looks like versus what movies look like. I

672
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: will give a movie more weight than I will TV.

673
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: Just like off the job. Even though I've watched the

674
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: wire and been like that's better than any movie I've

675
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: ever seen, I still will get excited when a movie

676
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: is coming out. Don't really get excited for a new

677
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: TV show coming out. Here you go cape in for

678
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: big movie again, I think, but I get met. I'm wrong,

679
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: or probably I'm wrong. So there's this new star wars

680
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: series and or it dropped. It drops today, I guess,

681
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: as you're listening to this, and according to Diego Luna,

682
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: who is the star, it's kind of like a very

683
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: long movie, which I think has connoted a level of

684
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: class in the past. But critics are starting to be like, Hey,

685
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: that's that's not good. Yeah, you did good thing. Yeah,

686
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: you don't really want that. I mean they tried that

687
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: with the Godfather Saga and it didn't work out good.

688
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: Did you guys ever watch the Godfather Saga? No, I

689
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 1: like parts one to answer. It was. It was they

690
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: decided to make the Godfather into a TV friendly edition

691
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: by taking one and two, this is before three came out,

692
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: and putting it in chronological order and then basically making

693
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: it episodic and fun editing assignment. It's a fun editing assignment,

694
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: but when you watch it you're like, Oh, you've ruined it.

695
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: That's the thing is wrong, the the the entire I

696
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: mean godfather too, works because you go back and forth

697
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: in time. It's like crazy. Yeah, no, you don't. Movies

698
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: and TV are actually two very different mediums and to

699
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: be like Oh, man, you know what we should do

700
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: is make a really like that's like saying a mini

701
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: series is just a long movie because you can watch

702
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: it in one sitting. It's like, no, that's not what

703
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: a not what a movie is like. If your episodes

704
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: do not have an arc and you're like well, that's

705
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: because it's a really long movie, it's like well, okay,

706
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: then that's not a show. Yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree.

707
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: There's I mean, there's so much to consider when you're

708
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: looking at the two art forms. I think no one

709
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: would stand for a ten hour movie because you'd be

710
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: exhausted by it, because a film almost by definition, is

711
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: supposed to move more quickly than that. Like you, the

712
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: case of events, you're by rule of thumb, you're entering

713
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: as late as possible, and entering is quickly. I'm sorry,

714
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: you're entering as late as possible and leaving as quick

715
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: as possible. Like you're not supposed to be spending extended

716
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: amounts of times with these characters. Usually you're like looking

717
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: at one theme. It's can be character driven, but mostly

718
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do is get like encapsulate a

719
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: moment or an event and explore that and then get out.

720
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: That's that's one of movies about. Television is all about like,

721
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, loving the characters and the journey. It's supposed

722
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: to be an extended piece of media and you know,

723
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Speaker 1: before streaming, which I think is when a lot of

724
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: this we came muddled, it was supposed to be, you know,

725
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: serialized and that you're coming back every week to enjoy,

726
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, this thing again. You get a week of

727
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: time between screenings to contemplate and dive into the thoughts

728
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: of it and and like hypothesize about what's happening next,

729
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: like it's a whole active experience even after the show ends,

730
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: and that's something that film. You might talk about a film,

731
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: but you're not like what happened next? If the movie

732
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: is good, uh, you're like, okay, that's the end. So

733
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: I think trying to conflate it and also, I think

734
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: cheapens television, which really frustratings me of somebody who really

735
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: enjoys TV, loves writing television and screening it. Like to

736
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: constantly be like it's not TV, it's a movie. It's like, okay,

737
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: this is not HBO and it's not the nineties. We

738
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: can evolve this idea that television, which is out of

739
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: its golden era. Like we we lived through this huge

740
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: balloon of like Oh, TV can be prestige. We came

741
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: out of that being like, oh well, we want to

742
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: make movies, the naked damn movie. What are you doing here?

743
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: This is TV space. It's weird. Yeah, calling it, calling

744
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: something you know. Oh you know, that TV show is

745
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: just like a is a very long movie. Is just

746
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: kind of an insult to TV shows that are just

747
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: like no, we're a TV show and we're better than

748
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: your movie. You know what I mean? Like people, I

749
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: think it's way of saying like movies are better than TV.

750
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: So if you watch this TV show, it's more like

751
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: you're seeing a film. It's like, man, funk off, it's

752
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: a it's a TV show. We all know what TV

753
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: shows are. You can't lie to me. That has been

754
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: the belief within the film and TV industries, right, is that?

755
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: Like you have to level up two movies from TV

756
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: for for a long time and they're only now coming

757
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: back around to the idea of t TV being worthwhile.

758
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: But but they're doing it kicking and screaming. I feel

759
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: like this is one of those kicks and screams. is

760
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: like Diego Luna being like yeah, this is like actually like,

761
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: don't think of me as a TV actor because this

762
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 1: is actually more of a movie. Strange to me because,

763
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: like Brian Kranston really kicked down that door with breaking bad.

764
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: You know, Brian, you were like, Oh, this guy, you

765
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: can put them up against any actor and he's going

766
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: to perform beautifully. It doesn't matter truly the material and

767
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: what you see. If that is like a slash movie,

768
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: starts being like Oh, I love to do TV, we

769
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: got regular ass hours, just come go perfect, look, I

770
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: would I would like to do that. And it's like

771
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: it's weird to me because it's like you have people

772
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: have already forgotten about Fargo, a series that constantly brings

773
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: in a new very talented film actor to eat a

774
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: season of television and has done so beautifully. You have

775
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: like your Olivia Coleman's of the world who constantly just

776
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: slipped back and forth. She doesn't care where she lands,

777
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: she's just looking for an interesting role. I don't understand,

778
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, acting as a profession, but you can do

779
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: it on stage or in the street or in a

780
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: movie or on television. Like there's no limit to where

781
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: you can perform. But there is a limit to how

782
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: you constructure a television series. Even if you're looking at,

783
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, an instant bin Stream versus your weekly like

784
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: network thing, you still need a pilot which still has

785
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: a pretty strict formula or a set of rules. So

786
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: you're trying to achieve which is different than your three

787
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: act structure of a film. It's again just to try

788
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: complate these two things as being the same or to

789
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: diminish one by trying to be the other. I think

790
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: you're seeing the kind of thing. This is what took

791
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: us out of the goal and age of television. These

792
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: people got too excited about being pristige. They forgot like, Oh,

793
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: we're making TV. Yeah, right, exactly. I mean it's just,

794
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, once they started realizing, like you know, you

795
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: have these like premium cable channels that were just like, oh,

796
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: we're not, we're not doing this for the ad break.

797
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: So that means we can really focus on just the content,

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Speaker 1: just making it good and, you know, well filmed and

799
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: wealth thought out, and that was, I think, you know,

800
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Speaker 1: that brought us into like this golden age of television.

801
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: Um and then now, because we're flooded with all streaming

802
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: services having their original content. And when Jack, what are

803
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: you talking about? The frame rate? I agree with you.

804
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: When I watch a Netflix original series, I'm just like,

805
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: why does this look like trash? I don't understand why

806
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: this looks weird, like some of it looks fine, but

807
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: just some of it just feels like they all use

808
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: the same goddamn camera and just actually do yeah, Netflix

809
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: is like really strict. I mean they do. They have

810
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: strict rules about which kind of cameras you can use

811
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: because they're streaming and foreseeing the eight K revolution their processes.

812
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: You need to be filming with these types of cameras

813
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: and you need to have these kinds of shots, like

814
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: it's almost a network Bible as opposed to a show Bible,

815
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: which does create a lot of homogeny, and I think

816
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: Netflix should change that. But yeah, but yeah, because of

817
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: how homogeneous all of the shows look, you kind of

818
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: like you've gotten to the point now where I feel

819
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: like movies being a separate thing, being like Oh, movies

820
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: are like back to in a way, being like, I

821
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: think more I don't know, it's looked at. It's more

822
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: prestigious in television. I mean they always was, but I

823
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: feel like now the idea of being like we're not

824
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: just another screaming show. No, we're a streaming show. That's

825
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: a movie streaming show. It weren't movie, the TV show.

826
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Speaker 1: Watch us. It's great, titanic over and over. But not

827
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: to be too capitalist about it. But I also think

828
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Speaker 1: post pandemic is having an effect on all of this,

829
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Speaker 1: because theaters are opening back up and they really, really

830
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: need people to come see movies. And what you're seeing

831
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: is a very distinct uh effort to elevate films. You

832
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are being choosier about which

833
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: films are going to green light. You have, you know,

834
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: your billion dollar blockbusters were really leaning into action post pandemic.

835
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Speaker 1: Bring back the ROM com, I say I think. I

836
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: think especially Disney, if we look at what they're trying

837
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: to do a star wars and marvel is trying to

838
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: capture that intelligion as a way to tide you over

839
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: in between film releases. I think it's and effective overall strategy,

840
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: particularly for that fan base. But I also think, you know,

841
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: television has that instant accessibility in your home that makes

842
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: it you know, there's something about the element of time

843
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: and being able to like paste it at your own

844
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: leisure as opposed to spending a lot of money and

845
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: for an event on a giant screen, and so I

846
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: think we're trying to discover, you know, what is the

847
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: balance between these two different venues and how do we

848
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: service audiences who have sort of come to get the

849
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: same level of special effects and performance that you could

850
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: get in a theater in their home. What is now

851
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: our dividing factor for these two services? And I don't

852
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: really know what the answer to that is. Just yeah,

853
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: I think it's going to come down to storytelling and

854
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: I think what we're gonna want to see more on

855
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: been are like larger emotional moments, you know. So, yes,

856
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: the giant actions. Yes, you're big ROM com swing, sort

857
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: of like we had the nineties. You're I'm envisioning a

858
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 1: return of comedy Duos, just because typically in times of Um,

859
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: thank you, and then times of depression, we reach we

860
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: return to comedies. That's what we like as a people.

861
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: Times of yeah, exactly, and we'll look at home is,

862
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, much more like a slew of like more nuanced,

863
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: slow paced journeys, which I sort of think is how

864
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: it has to be. But I don't know, I really

865
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: don't like conflating the two. Yeah, I would love it

866
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: if we got the return of comedy duos and that

867
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: the and and where the entire goal was just to

868
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: be funny. I do feel like there's been one of

869
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: the big downsides of Prestige TV has been the comedy

870
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: that is mostly drama and like sometimes it's perfect, like Barry,

871
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: and some times I'm just like, Oh, why is this?

872
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: Why is this called a comedy? It is this is

873
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: not this is just a bunch of therapists crying, you know,

874
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: and it's just like there are just some shows that

875
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: I just can't it's like I don't want Abbott and

876
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: Costello to be like who's on first, and he's just

877
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: like my bipolar disorder and it's like come on, man,

878
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: I think comedy is at a good place and in movies,

879
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: my favorite comedian is the rock and I think that

880
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: like those, those are some great comedies. I so I'm

881
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: gonna say something that's gonna get people mad, but I do.

882
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: How are you guys both watching the Lord of the Rings? Serious?

883
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: But I haven't seen the latest episode. I've only I'm

884
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: like ten minutes into the second episode. I'm having I

885
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: just want to preface this by saying like it not

886
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: only do I have like a movie bias, I have

887
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: a teen Wolf Shaped Lens that I watch every every

888
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: entertainment through, because I like watch team wolf when I

889
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: was very young and now I watched it so young that,

890
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: like everything else, is built on top of that and

891
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: I still, like, I still watched teen wolf and I

892
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: have no notes. I'm like, no, that's that's a great movie.

893
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: That's so like I'm an idiot, like, I don't I

894
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: don't have good taste in movies or anything. You're watching

895
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: Lord of the rings like he needs more Teen Wolf

896
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: needs more break dancing teenagers. You're watching Schindler's list. I

897
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't see any wolves playing basketball, but

898
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: I like, I'm wondering and I'm not like articulate enough

899
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: to like figure out what my issue is, but I'm

900
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: really having a hard time making my way through Lord

901
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: of the Rings, even though everything on screen is like

902
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: impressive and like the acting seems good and the effects

903
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: seem amazing and like it's like really thoroughly imagined and

904
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: it has cool stuff, and I'm just like there's something,

905
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: and I am wondering. This story, which was cemented by

906
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: a writer jam, made me wonder if, like it. It

907
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: has something to do with the pacing, which is something

908
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: I'm not great at picking up on. Um, I mean

909
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: my initial thought is that you're watching it and you're

910
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: just furious because you're like elves can't be black. That's

911
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: my it's definitely Jacks Fish. Yeah, that's your first reaction. No,

912
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: I actually I I understand where you're coming from. I

913
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: personally the reason I love the show, Um, is because

914
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: I just I love Lord of the Rings, I Love

915
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: I love the books, I love the Lore. All of

916
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: it is fascinating to me. So as I'm watching it,

917
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like I'm watching on more of a

918
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: nerd level than I think, like a regular viewer. But

919
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: I felt the same way about the movies and to

920
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't understand why the general public like

921
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: the movies either, because the movies are also incredibly nerdy.

922
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: There it's like, you know, the Tolkien use of language

923
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: is so like, it's so fantasy that it's like I

924
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: could see it being completely inaccessible to most people. I

925
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: was surprised that people like Flor the rings, because I

926
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: was like, they speak elvish for like half of it

927
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: and it's and it's it's literally people with pointy ears just,

928
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, being like we must destroy the ring. Like

929
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: for me, I'm a little nerd kid, so I'm like, yeah,

930
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: we got evil, but like, I don't know, I don't

931
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: know about like why anyone who's normal would have liked it.

932
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: So I can't I can't answer that. I don't know.

933
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: The reason you don't like it is probably because it's uh,

934
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: it's not there's not enough teenage world and because very nerdy.

935
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. People like the original for a

936
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. Their names are Vigo Mortenson, lived tyler

937
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: and Elijah Wood. That's what they came for and it

938
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: was good. Bloom. I forgot that hot he was in

939
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 1: it too. Yeah, stacked with hotties. I think a lot

940
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: of the issues for the TV series. It's dense, Jack like,

941
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: I would give yourself some grace and that it is

942
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: extremely dense television material. It's not in any way handing

943
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: you or even like just holding your hand and guiding

944
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: you through the story, like I think a lot of

945
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: pilots do, which is good. Not Doubting that at all.

946
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: I think you know how to say so. I think

947
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: sometimes like stories and we're gonna get, I say, some

948
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: are used to digest than others. And I think a

949
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: lot of times again, when we're in our living rooms

950
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: on our very comfortable couches that we bought specifically for

951
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: their comfort, you know we're in our cozy space, we're

952
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: just trying to chill and watch some good stories. And

953
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, a good pilot is like here's a very

954
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: easy guy to like. Hear the characters here at the

955
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: states enjoy this story. Is All like, here's a bunch

956
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: of philosophy. Maybe that's a bad guy or maybe he's

957
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: the lost traveler. We don't know. You'll find out. It's

958
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: a it's a little chaotic in here. It took two

959
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: viewings for me to be like okay, I'm pretty sure

960
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: I understand everyone's like basic motive. It's dense. I'll just

961
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: say that it's not. It's not kicked back. Watching it

962
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: requires your full attention, which is not something everyone's trying

963
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: to do when they're on the couch and it's it is.

964
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: It is a slow burn, I think, before you get

965
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: to some of the more, I don't know, accessible human stuff.

966
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, once they I mean, I love hobbits. I'm

967
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: a big Hobbit Guy. When I see hobbits on screen

968
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm like fuck, yeah, hobbits. So and I think people

969
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: like hobbits in general, like the general public life and

970
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: because they are relatable. Um People, for sure. Yeah, so

971
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: I think the show, once it gets a little more

972
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: hobbit heavy, I think people will enjoy it more. But

973
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: I love the charming little touches and like villages and

974
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: the like origami boats, the turn into the big like that.

975
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: I love like the little touches. It's like the main

976
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: thrust of the story. I'm just like yeah, yeah, I

977
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: feel you, but like yeahs are coming in the back

978
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: half of episode two and they are freaking to like

979
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: they're fantastic. Yeah, if you haven't you've gotten there yet.

980
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: Then it starts. It does start picking up, but I'll

981
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: admit most of my excitement comes from wanting to see

982
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: people that I know from both Lord of the Rings

983
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: and from like the summarillion. So I'm just W yeah,

984
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. To the point about like things

985
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: being paste as TV versus movies versus like I think

986
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: game of thrones was at its best when it was

987
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: paste like based on what was happening in the novels,

988
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: and like they want able to just like run off

989
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: and be like, okay, now we need a big battle

990
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the this season, and so we're

991
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: gonna have to make it so that he can run

992
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: across the country on foot in order to like get there.

993
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: For the best, you know, they just kind of stuck

994
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: with whatever pacing the novels dictated and that that felt

995
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: better to me than towards the end, where it felt

996
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: like they got more into somewhat generic TV paces right

997
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: and having to you know, they also had to wrap

998
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: things up. So they felt like they the audience was

999
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: craving big battles and they made a choice to do

1000
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: eight episodes in a final season, like some dumbmasses, when

1001
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: you had at least ten episodes worth of drama to

1002
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: adequately wrap up. And then he spent the first tree

1003
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: just at winter. Felt a lot of terrible decisions were made.

1004
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: It was a perfect storm. I mean also, come on,

1005
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 1: the long night is one episode. I mean, come on, wow,

1006
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: it's not. Does the killing? What was this premonition about

1007
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: in the first place? What's going on? We're just gonna

1008
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: do away with all of the mysticism, just none of

1009
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: the where my first children? What's going down there? Just

1010
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: about it. We're done. All right. We could then talk

1011
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: about this. We'll have to cut it there. Matt, truly

1012
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: a pleasure, as always, having you. Where can people find

1013
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: you and follow you? You can find me on Instagram

1014
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: at Matt Lead Jokes and, Uh yeah, follow me there.

1015
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: And please check out pod yourself the wire or pod

1016
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: yourself a gun, or don't check it out, and just

1017
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: give us those five stars in a review and just

1018
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: press Blaine muted, because you know I need it. I

1019
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: need it all right. Is there a tweet or some

1020
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes,

1021
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: this tweet, I think it's from yesterday or a couple

1022
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: of days ago from comedian Andrew Moore at a more

1023
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: or less on twitter. Born has completely lost the plot.

1024
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: I was watching a video where the premise was a

1025
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: girl gets sucked by her stepfather while her stepmother is

1026
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: in the next room. How does someone have a stepmother

1027
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: and a stepfather? I love that. And then you just

1028
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: try to imagine, like why, what the just a confluence

1029
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: of events that would lead to you being raised by

1030
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: two strangers? Yeah, M Joel, as always, so great having

1031
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: you as guest host. Where can people find you and

1032
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Thanks for having me back.

1033
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: Super Fun as always. Uh, you guys know me. Find

1034
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: me all of the Internet. Agile Monique. It's J O

1035
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: e l l E m o n I q u e.

1036
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: Rebecca Werthererspoon, who was a fantastic romantic novelists. Those are words. Uh.

1037
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: She beyonce posted a video congratulating her church on like

1038
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: it's their anniversary. It's very sweet, beautiful, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

1039
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: Rebecca and all of beyonce's fans, and I think she's pregnant.

1040
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 1: It's a face up video, her face real round. We

1041
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: don't have no choreography for this new album yet. So

1042
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: back tweets. This woman is pregnant and we ain't get

1043
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: into the choreography until. I would scream beyonce, but my

1044
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: brother and I want to hear about it. So, beyonce,

1045
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: please come back. I don't know what's happening like. Just

1046
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: give us an information. We're lost in a see of

1047
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: a great album. I listened to it at least once

1048
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: a day, but it's not enough. I need a video,

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Speaker 1: I need a tour date. Give me something, please, please,

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Speaker 1: be pregnant girl. We can't lose you for another year.

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Speaker 1: Video is actually less of a video and more of

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Speaker 1: a movie, length movie. So that's what's happening there. You

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Speaker 1: know what I know about this TV show? A movie?

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Speaker 1: You know, you watch your TV show and you go,

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Speaker 1: I wish this was a movie, and it was right.

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Speaker 1: You know what I love about beyonce's log a movie? Alright, UH,

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Speaker 1: tweet I've been enjoying at the bunk. Queen tweeted R

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Speaker 1: I P to everyone killed by the gods for their Hubris,

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Speaker 1: but I'm different and maybe even better than the gods.

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Speaker 1: And then Carle tennis tweeted tonight's to do list. Hunk, shoe, hunk,

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Speaker 1: and they're listed out in list form. So I realized

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Speaker 1: after I started the tweet that that wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: come across. Hunk, shoe and UNK. Me, me, me, me, me.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on twitter at daily Zychgeist. We're

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Speaker 1: at the daily Zychheist on instagram. We have facebook fan

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Speaker 1: page on a website, daily zycheys dot com, where we

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Speaker 1: post our episodes and our foot note link off to

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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as

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Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Miles is out, super producer. Justin. Do you have a wreck?

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Speaker 1: I do have a wreck. This is a duo from

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Speaker 1: the UK who have recommended before, called Jaddu hearts. This

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Speaker 1: is a song called Harry Brompton's. I see. It is

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Speaker 1: so smooth. Just chill back and listen to some sweet

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Speaker 1: harmonies and have a nice afternoon. Put this on. It's

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Speaker 1: called Harry Brockton's, I see, by Jadu Heart J A

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Speaker 1: D U H e a r t, and you can

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Speaker 1: find that and put notes. Amazing Um. Well, the daily

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Speaker 1: is that, guys. The production of by heart radio. For

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Speaker 1: more podcasts for my heart radio, visit the heart radio APP,

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Speaker 1: apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: That is going to do it for us this morning,

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Speaker 1: back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you all that. Bye, bye.