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<v Speaker 1>affiliates around the world. Chargers in Philip Rivers made it official.

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<v Speaker 1>They announced that the veteran quarterback will hit the free

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<v Speaker 1>agency market this spring. And even if he never plays

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<v Speaker 1>it down another down, Philip Rivers has had an impressive career,

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<v Speaker 1>interesting career. He's always going to be compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>two quarterbacks who went in the draft the same draft

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<v Speaker 1>as him, Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. Rivers doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl rings, the other two do. He's been arguably

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<v Speaker 1>more consistent than Eli and Ben, at least in the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season, which is both a blessing and a curse

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about it, because he's six all time

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<v Speaker 1>in passing yards. He's been named to the Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>eight times, and with the resume like that, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have at least one trip to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>But it never happened for him, partly because the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>ran into Bill Belichick's Patriots at the height of their dominance,

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<v Speaker 1>and partly because of injuries organizational problems, have held the

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<v Speaker 1>team back, so we'll see what happens in free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>As I told you during Super Bowl week, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a text during the show from a source who said,

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<v Speaker 1>as we were talking about Philip Rivers, and I said

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<v Speaker 1>this to you probably six weeks ago. Eight weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>he was not coming back to the Chargers or the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers were not going to have him back. And I

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<v Speaker 1>got a text from a source who said, look for

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers, and the Colts now got some headlines, got

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<v Speaker 1>some play in Indianapolis, and certainly with the Chargers in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. I don't know if he's relocated to Florida

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<v Speaker 1>that means he'll play for Bruce Arians in Tampa. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he wants to play at least one more year,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe two more years. But if I'm Philip Rivers, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably go where the climate the conditions would be more

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<v Speaker 1>conducive to an arm that's not that strong. You can

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<v Speaker 1>play indoors half your games with the Colts, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be the place to go. I don't know what Frank

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<v Speaker 1>Reich thinks of Philip Rivers. I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers has left. I watched him last year. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he had a tired arm, a dead arm. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you make some magic happen with the Colts? You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get better line protection. I will say that with

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<v Speaker 1>the Colts than you did with the Chargers. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>stat I wasn't aware of. If you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers offensive line, this is pass protection. The Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>have finished below average in pass protection for twelve consecutive seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>including thirtieth and thirty first in the last two seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers didn't mess a start. He didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of protection there. So if I'm Tom Brady, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking I'm looking at those numbers, going do I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get behind that offensive lawn or that philosophy there?

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<v Speaker 1>Because this isn't just a one or two season anomaly.

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<v Speaker 1>This is his twelve consecutive season according to Pro Football

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<v Speaker 1>Focus there Seaton. Are you saying, that's a stat of

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<v Speaker 1>the day? Whoa the day? That's stat of the day?

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<v Speaker 1>Stat of the day? Here comes that? What stat of

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<v Speaker 1>the day? Well, it is a stat and today is

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<v Speaker 1>a day. So that's stat of the day there for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're looking at maybe you know destination's landing

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<v Speaker 1>spots for Tom Brady. I think the Chargers makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense for

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<v Speaker 1>both parties there. Brady, he has a home in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chargers desperately need some buzz moving into this new stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a lot of weapons there, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>offensive weapons. You got some defensive stars as well. It's

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<v Speaker 1>probably a more talented team than you have. And with

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots there, Yeah, it'd be kind of hilarious if

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<v Speaker 1>the Charges got hilarious thirty eight year old quarterbacks, new

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<v Speaker 1>year old quarterback, the younger demo. Yeah, but it makes

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<v Speaker 1>more sense for Brady to go to the Chargers, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>than stay with the Patriots, which say our old hall

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<v Speaker 1>of famer for an older hall of famer. Yes, MC

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<v Speaker 1>just say it makes more sense to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers and stay with the Patriots. Yes, if I'm standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have a poll question right here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if I want to go where I've got weapons, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't have a line, as you just said.

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<v Speaker 1>That made me okay. The Patriots line was all banged

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<v Speaker 1>up this past year as well. I just think the

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<v Speaker 1>coachy staff of the Patriots is maybe a more compelling

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<v Speaker 1>reason than Scott. I'll give you that, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he has a coach who wants him back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has an owner who wants him back.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chargers would be welcoming him with open arms there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go to a team that is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>have some kind of identity, you would have that with Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do I want to pay him thirty million dollars? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. If I'm the Patriots, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give him two years at thirty million dollars a piece,

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<v Speaker 1>because this feels a little bit more like the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>with Kobe when they overpaid for Kobe because the team

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't great. Now Patriots are gonna win ten games. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like in their sleep are they going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl caliber team? But MC club, well, there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. That's the reason you're in the AFC East.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you want to go out with Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>in the AFC West. He's not afraid of a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>He's proven that over the last nineteen years. He's good

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<v Speaker 1>beating cupcakes for eighteen years. Yes, can't you just get

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver or two and then there you go? Weapons? Uh, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep saying that, but they've been trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>a running back and a wide receiver. They didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a tight end. They knew Gronk was going to retire.

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<v Speaker 1>They started the season last year stacked and it fell apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it stacked? I bet you if you go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the day that they signed Antonio Brown and we

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<v Speaker 1>started looking at Antonio Brown Edelman, they had Josh Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, they had like a plus nikkil Harry

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be good. At the time. Going into

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<v Speaker 1>the season, the Patriots were thought as like probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best teams of all times if those guys

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<v Speaker 1>had stayed and actually been healthy. Right, But you had

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<v Speaker 1>injured cut cut right, No, exactly, So it fell apart.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that happens, But my point being, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that. So get Himari Cooper and get somebody whoever

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<v Speaker 1>these other free agents are, and then you got weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay done. Do you think he should stay in New

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<v Speaker 1>England and not go to the Charge? Oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go not even close to go to the Charger.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you go to the I think he's considering

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers. Now. Robert Kraft has said go out and

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<v Speaker 1>have fun and free agency. I think Tom has taken

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<v Speaker 1>this as a slight and I think that he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>had some humble pie here with the Patriots. He tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get a contract extension a year ago. They weren't

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<v Speaker 1>giving him a contract extension, and I think he's probably saying,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's see who needs who more? If I go,

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<v Speaker 1>who you're going to get to replace me? Jared Stidham?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Good luck with that, Bill? Yeah, Pa, Any

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<v Speaker 1>chance Brady doesn't look at this like a just a

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<v Speaker 1>football decision and looks at it more as a last

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<v Speaker 1>call for me to make my statement over the Patriots decision,

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<v Speaker 1>where if I could get to a super Bowl with

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<v Speaker 1>another franchise, then the debate off was a Belichecker Brady

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<v Speaker 1>can be settled. And I know it's an uphill battle,

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<v Speaker 1>but the payoff would be huge if he got the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers or another franchise to a Super Bowl, even an appearance. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then go to the Cowboys. Oh no, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Michael Irvin said this, and of course it

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<v Speaker 1>caught fire with the hot take networks that hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hearing that the Cowboys are interested in Tom Brady. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the Cowboys and I want to put a little

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<v Speaker 1>heat on Dak Prescott. That's what it feels like they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're looking for a little bit of leverage because right

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<v Speaker 1>now Dak Prescott has that leverage. You're gonna go, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're interested in Tom Brady. Okay, it's a team that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make the playoffs last year. Tom wants to go

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<v Speaker 1>win a Super Bowl. You want to go to Dallas?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you go to Dallas? Are they gonna they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tag and track Dak Prescott? What do you get in

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<v Speaker 1>return for Dak Prescott? Okay? Is Tom Brady that much

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<v Speaker 1>of an upgrade over Dak Prescott? Now, Dak Prescott I

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<v Speaker 1>think should be taking a little less to stay in

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas because of the value of being the Cowboys quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, it's not my money and it's his future.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you feel like, hey, I'm the next man up,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get paid. And you know that's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with Kansas City. If I'm the Chiefs, I

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<v Speaker 1>get Patrick Mahomes deal done right now, giving six years

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<v Speaker 1>average thirty six million dollars a year, and make it

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<v Speaker 1>all guaranteed. Just get it done and then move on

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<v Speaker 1>because when you have the new collective bargaining agreement, when

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<v Speaker 1>he might look back and go, man, they got a

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<v Speaker 1>bargain for Patrick Mahomes. If I can get six for

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes six years, I sign up right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm Tom Brady share, I'd look at the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're a free agent, you look at everyone. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a free agent. With our TV portion of this show,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to everybody about this opportunity. Some are valid,

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<v Speaker 1>some aren't, but you talk to everybody. If I'm Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to the Chargers. I talked to the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to the Titans. I talked to the Colts.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to everybody there. I mean, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>last roundup for Tom Brady. And if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go out in style, where is the best place I

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<v Speaker 1>could go? I would look at the Colts because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in that division and I play those game indoors half

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<v Speaker 1>of them. I got a really good offensive line, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a running game. I got some skilled position players.

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<v Speaker 1>I could use a couple more wide receivers, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like their skill position guys are as good, if

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<v Speaker 1>not better than the Patriots. I would look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Frank Wright, former quarterback as my head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be that would be a nice landing spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if I'm Tom Brady, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to live in Indiana. He's got that Hunt

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<v Speaker 1>Memal might be a lifestyle change, though his wife maybe saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, if you're gonna play, this is where

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<v Speaker 1>I want to live. They sold their place in New England.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's gonna play for the Jets of

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants because he has a home in Greenwich, Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna guess Tommy can find a home wherever

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<v Speaker 1>he goes. America's his home. He's America's quarterback right now, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>PAULI can you imagine if Josh McDonald's assistant coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots reaction, if Tom Brady went to the call

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<v Speaker 1>he was gonna go, There're gonna have to go and

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<v Speaker 1>tapped out on the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback news is interesting With Philip Rivers, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he has that many options because I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that he's lost something off his fastball. Is he

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<v Speaker 1>still a great leader? Does he love the game, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all those things there, But if I'm trying to win,

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<v Speaker 1>is he that much more of an upgrade over Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Tannehill in Tennessee? I don't think so. Is he that

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<v Speaker 1>much more of an upgrade over Jacobe Burusett? Maybe, But

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<v Speaker 1>if you have him go to where else? Tampa is

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<v Speaker 1>the enoughgrader for Jameis Winston? I think so. Yeah. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be more shocked if I woke up with

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<v Speaker 1>my head sewn into the carpet then if Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Colts that. There's just no way, I

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<v Speaker 1>know all that happened with the flate gate, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way with the flate gate that I'm going there. I

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<v Speaker 1>get it, I get it. But if you're Tom and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go to the best place, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah. The odds on favorites for Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Rivers right now, Vegas odds is Tampa Bay. Tampa's got

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<v Speaker 1>the fourteenth pick of the draft, which puts them a

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<v Speaker 1>little on the outside for getting a top flight quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you want to move on from Jameis Winston,

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers would be cheaper because you gotta pay Jameis

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<v Speaker 1>Winston the full boat. Either keep them or you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They could the fans aren't there. There are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to revolt it. They get rid of Jameis Winston, you

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<v Speaker 1>get Rivers for two years. It gives you the option

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<v Speaker 1>of draft sign. There's no commitment there. That seems so obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have to Eddy Bridgewater. Sure, yeah, mclen. If

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Barr can go to the Vikings, then Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>can go to the Colts. Yeah. I mean the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>and Packarde fans hate each other for a century. I

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, does anyone really care about the plake

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<v Speaker 1>a anymore? That was decades ago? You bring it up

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<v Speaker 1>on a weekly basis, and you do, yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>defend Brady and Patriots on a weekly basis, do you

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<v Speaker 1>say decades ago? Yeah, nobody talks about the plake anymore. Reality.

0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that's moved on. There's like seven more interesting scandids.

0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.480
<v Speaker 1>The turnound to be that, you know, Philip Rivers retires,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady stays with the Patriots, and Dak Prescott resigns

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cowboys. I mean he could meet all of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. Bushell, all this is is us rooting first joy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why the Cowboys thing took off? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I can, I can, I can combine Brady and the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, let's do it. Let's run with it.

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<v Speaker 1>All I need is Lebron to tweet out about about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we've got everybody involved in this, but Brady

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cowboys, Dak Prescott. If I'm the Cowboys, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jerry Jones's son, I want to look at this

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<v Speaker 1>and say, do we want to be smart long term?

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<v Speaker 1>Because if we want to be smart long term, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna sign Dak Prescott. If you're looking for Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>and to give him one more Super Bowl, then you

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<v Speaker 1>look at Tom Brady. I mean, I guess that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the way I would approach it. Yeah. See, I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't find a way that somebody goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>team that is like branded him a cheater. But that

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<v Speaker 1>that front office is gone doesn't matter. Okay, we coach, coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and GM are gone. Same owner. Where that the league

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<v Speaker 1>had to confiscate your phone and put out all of

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<v Speaker 1>like the personal details of your life so that they

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<v Speaker 1>could figure out if you asked the Ballboys to deflate football? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how about the Cowboys then yeah, I wouldn't go there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say in New England if I was him,

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<v Speaker 1>But the Cowboys would be a lot more appealing than

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<v Speaker 1>the well they called. What about the Chargers? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think the Chargers sounds good. I do. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm the Patriots, so I want to spend you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty million dollars over the next two years for Tom

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<v Speaker 1>and that I wouldn't do. Yeah, eleven, two questions are right,

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<v Speaker 1>what about Cam Newton? And is are we assuming Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Tannehill and Jamis Winston resigning ruined our off season. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what Bruce arians thinks that Jamis winstons to

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<v Speaker 1>like him well, but he also had the quote that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever their record was, that you know we

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<v Speaker 1>could have done that without Jamis Winston, Like they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>need Jamis to have that record this year. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's happening in cam Newton. Tannehill no brainer? Kay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so if I'm keeping Derrick Henry, then I

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<v Speaker 1>keep Ryan Tannehill, and if I resigned them, then I

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<v Speaker 1>would have that as a package. I think the Tannehill

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<v Speaker 1>needs Derrick Henry. Yeah, point teamis Winston passed three years,

0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.640
<v Speaker 1>has won thirteen games as a starter in the past

0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.040
<v Speaker 1>three seasons. That's not good. His quarterback rating in his

0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.840
<v Speaker 1>fifth year was worse than his quarterback rating his first

0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.040
<v Speaker 1>two years. There is zero improvement and actual regression. The

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<v Speaker 1>only leads a league in is you know, interceptions and

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<v Speaker 1>yard is because they're always down. I can't imagine get

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<v Speaker 1>paying extra money for that. I mean, if the Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay signed him for anything, that would be nuts. I

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<v Speaker 1>got people tweeting here, Rivers to the Colts, question mark

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<v Speaker 1>no exclamation point, Rivers, old tired arm, glue on the shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>QB ranking last year Rivers seventeen. Jacobe brusaid eighteen. Just

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<v Speaker 1>say no. I'm only telling you what I was told

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<v Speaker 1>by a source. And this source was listening to the show,

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<v Speaker 1>watching the show. When we were in Miami. We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Philip Rivers and he said, hey, don't rule

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<v Speaker 1>out the Colts. That's all. That's all I got for

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<v Speaker 1>question mcloven. By the way, we'll get into the saint

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<v Speaker 1>situation with Taysom Hill, Drew Brees's future, Teddy Bridgewater's future.

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<v Speaker 1>There had that for you coming up. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Jim Jackson this little small ball here with

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<v Speaker 1>what the Houston Rockets are doing. Is it going to

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<v Speaker 1>provide big dividends there come postseason time? Yes, mclove. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna jump the gun right now. I can't help.

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<v Speaker 1>There's too many clicks involved in. There's too many clicks,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what we're all about. Who would you rather

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<v Speaker 1>have a quarterback for your team? Philip Rivers A Taysom Hill?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hang up and listen. Well, wait there, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there are teams competing for either. Phil who had

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<v Speaker 1>a choice. Taysom Hill's a pre agent and he says

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to be a starting quarterback. Why would rather

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<v Speaker 1>have Taysom Hill? That's hot? I don't think so. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Philip Rivers, I think that's kind of hot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Philip Rivers five years ago, four years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>not now. Yeah, see it didn't Taysom Hill on the

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like yeah him five years ago. People don't

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<v Speaker 1>realize Taysom Hill's gonna turn thirty in August. He turns thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, yeah, he's a franchise including him, I

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<v Speaker 1>think saying he's a franchise quarterback. Going people know he's thirty, Yes, Todd,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want a multi purpose quarterback over a proven

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<v Speaker 1>veteran even though his best days are behind him? We

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<v Speaker 1>know what Philip Rivers I think I do. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would take Taysom Hill over Philip Rivers. Yes, Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Rivers has three hundred ninety seven more touchdown passes the

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<v Speaker 1>Taysom Hill. Philip Rivers has three hundred ninety seven career

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown passes. I know you can figure out, yes, Seaton.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that like Philip Rivers has become the new Eli

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<v Speaker 1>Manning in these poll questions of the aging veteran quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe has a good year. Let oh, who who

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<v Speaker 1>do you want? Eli Manning or Teddy Bridgewater? We used

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<v Speaker 1>to do those kinds of things. Now that he's retired,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Philip Rivers is unfortunately in that spot. Gotta move

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<v Speaker 1>on to Uh yeah, gotta have another quarterback that we

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<v Speaker 1>can say, come on down, all right, We'll take a

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<v Speaker 1>break here. Jim Jackson from TNT will join us former

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<v Speaker 1>will be Wednesday. And are we having Pascal Friday? He

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<v Speaker 1>is expected to jost on Friday. All right, about time

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 1>we gave some love to the Raptors. There got a

0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:53.919
<v Speaker 1>great coach, great front office there and they have been

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the big surprise so far this season, certainly in the East. Yes, Pauli,

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't want to watch Hornets Pistons, the Vante Graham

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 1>putting in fourteen and Fonmaker putting in twelve and those

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>you're leading scores last night? Yeah, it's that's not great basketball.

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Not great basketball there. All right, we have a Taysom

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Hill question. We'll get to Jim Jackson, will Joan stnt

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>NBA analyst Mike Florio stepped in it where he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see if I have here here's the tweet

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<v Speaker 1>from Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Taysom Hill is a future star in the NFL,

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you haven't been paying close enough attention to him. He

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<v Speaker 1>was the best player on the field for either team

0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>in the Saints Vikings playoff game. The biggest question is

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.919
<v Speaker 1>can he stay healthy if used all the time? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means that he was the

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<v Speaker 1>best player on the field now for that game, Okay,

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it I mean, I'm gonna guess Michael Thomas is pretty

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>good at what he does. Right meeting had one hundred

0:24:55.800 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and fifty catches. Taysom had a great game. But how

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>many thirty year old quarterbacks have yet to throw their

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>first NFL touchdown pass? Because Taysom Hill hasn't thrown a

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>touchdown pass yet? Can he run? Can he block special teams?

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Wide receiver, maybe a quarterback maybe? You know, is your

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>offense different? You know, Sean Payton loves Taysom Hill because

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>of all the options. You know, there's different things, and

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what this is a drop back offense that

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Taysom Hill changes all of that. But uh, you know,

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>people went after Mike Fourial about this Taysom Hill tweet, Like, okay,

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was the best player on the field.

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Bad day, he really though, I certainly did everything. He

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>had fifty yards rushing and he had two catches for

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty five yards. And like, I mean, I'm looking back

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the game. Adam Teelan went off in that game at

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:56.439
<v Speaker 1>one hundred twenty nine yards, didn't he didn't he throw

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 1>pass in that game? He threw one pass fifty yards. Yeah,

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, I mean it wasn't a great passion. Yeah,

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean and Cook were way to it. Everyone triple

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>teams Michael Thomas, so Ques, you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>covering Michael Tasom Hill. I'd like to see Tastom Hill

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<v Speaker 1>as the primary weapon and see how he does. Say

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to see him as a quarterback who's

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to throw twenty times. Now, maybe you use

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>him in a Lamar Jackson type fashion. But Lamar Jackson

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>led the NFL and touchdowns passes. Yeah, Polly, But if

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you're the Saints with a franchise that's got great offense,

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>great defense, skill position, everything is great. You want to

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 1>bring in a project quarterback who's thirty. Now, that seems like,

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 1>this guy's not played quarterback where he passed the ball

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in six years is back in his by U days whatever,

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and he was not that accurate. Then it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>if this were a transition time for that franchise, then maybe, Yeah,

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand it. If you said I could have

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<v Speaker 1>Teddy Bridgewater Taysom Hills my quarterback, I'd like Teddy Bridgewater

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Taysom Hill. We love the possibility, we love the unknown,

0:26:56.680 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and Taysom Hill is an unknown great athlete here, but

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>he's got seven career completions here. Yes, mclova, maybe is

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>this Sean Payton trying to prove his brilliance. Well, if

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you're going to move on from Drew Brees, you're gonna

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>move on in a different way. Takesom Hill would be

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 1>moving on in a different way. And does he fit

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>the new NFL at that position. I just don't know

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>how accurate he will be as a quarterback. I just

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>got this from my store. So I was talking about

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers to the Occults. The offensive coordinator in Indianapolis

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>was on the staff in San Diego with Rivers. The

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>terminology in Indianapolis is very similar to San Diego. That

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator loves Philip Rivers. So whether it happens or not,

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>I just I've been told that that's the team to

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on. All right, Yes, mclova. That makes

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 1>so much sense in San Diego? Is that how we

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>talk about their head coach? No, the offensive coordinator, the

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator, yeah right, was there too, Yeah, but the whole,

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>that whole offense. Nick Sirianni, Yeah, he was the offensive coordinate. No,

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator with the Colt. I feel like it's done

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the way you No, no, no, don't do that, I know,

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>but it makes so much No no, no, no, no, no,

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>no no no. Nan Patrick reporting. Yeah, let's get to

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Jim Jackson NBA on TNT Tuesday night, and let's on

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the call for tonight's Celtics Rockets game on TNT doubleheader.

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Clippers in the seventy Sixers, thank god that's in Philadelphia.

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>The seventy sixers are horrible on the road. But the

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>great Jim Jackson joining us on the program. Are you

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>a football fan, Jim? You know it? Steelers baby really

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 1>grew up the Steelers Say, yeah, but didn't you grow

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>up in Ohio? Exactly? Did you play football in high

0:28:53.960 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>school women. Hold on, hold on, I lost you on

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>your phone. There, I got him on hold there, Hot'll

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>reconnect with him. Something happened on his phone. He must

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>have hit a button or something. You grow up in Ohio.

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>That's like you saying you're gonna be a Michigan fan.

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>You grew up there. Can you imagine living near either

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Browns or Bengals. I could never be a Steeler or

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>a Pirate fan, but growing up and they were always

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>great competition. The Steelers obviously were a great competition, but

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the Pirates and Reds going back and forth, that was

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>that was awesome. He said, Jim, back with it. Oh okay,

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and you kicked me off. Who was your favorite player?

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>What are your audience? Guys must have been a Brown

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>fan or something. Who is your favorite player? Man? Swan?

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay? Did you play football? Row? Yeah? I did.

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Were you like Lebron unlike? Remember Lebron played wide receiver

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>in high school? Yeah? I was. I played more tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was that was in my neighborhood. I mean

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what we did either before grade school, where we

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>went around to different neighborhoods who played we play in

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>our neighborhood in the snow during the summer. It didn't

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean football was just now. We played basketball, don't

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, but it was something about football. I

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know what it was at that time.

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>It was just the thing to do well in Ohio

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>it is and plus where you're from, you know football

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>is king up there. A couple of things basketball wise here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me start with the Rockets. With the small ball,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it means for the regular season

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and certainly for the postseason season for this team. You

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>can be a matchup nightmare when you're going, you know,

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>night in and night out for a different city and

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a different team. I get you in a seven game series. Now,

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it's different because I put all

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 1>my efforts into stopping you. So Rockets regular seas in

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Rockets postseason. What do you think is going to play

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>out here for them? Then? You know that's a good question.

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna say this.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in ninety five ninety six, when I was with

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<v Speaker 1>the Mavericks, Dick Moondo was a coach. We employed the

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>same kind of strategy. We had Popeye Jones playing the

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>five it was like George McCleod, myself, Jamal was hurt, Mashburn.

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>It was totally doing this Jason Kidd and we didn't

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>We had to do it by necessity because we didn't

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>have any thick man. So we went on this rampage

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>where we just ran basically three guards and two folds

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and just shot a bunch of threes. And back then

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it was a little bit different because the emphasis was

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.239
<v Speaker 1>putting the ball in the post. But when we were

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>hitting threes, hitting threes, it worked okay. And then teams

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>had to try to match up with us, and we

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>figured our threes that I would do the two. But

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>it was a challenge because we just wasn't accustomed to

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>playing like that and matchup that just didn't benefit us

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>very much. Similar like this Houston team did. And the

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>regular season against the Lakers, the Lakers didn't want to

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>just want to play big, so it benisited you know,

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the Rockets. But in the last you know, two games

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>against hut Tall and against Phoenics, when you got perimeter

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>players that can you know, still stress the floor, play

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more defense, it causes a little bit

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>more of a challenge for the Rockets, and in the

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>seven game series, depending on who you're playing, if they

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>have perimeter threats just as much as the Rockets, it's

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be a challenge. I mean, because here's the thing.

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at some stats, like the Rockets are

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>scoring their opponents out scoring opponents like one three, one

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>forty two. I think it is in the post, I

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>mean in the paint, which is great, but they don't

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>get the stops when they need it. And that's been

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the overall question and issue with the Rockets. We all

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>know they can score, but in the playoffs, in the

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>critical situation, can you get two three stops in a

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>row to allow your offense to work for you? And

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that's my biggest thing about about the Rockets. You know,

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>are they going to give up some rebounds, Yeah, but

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>they don't play defense good enough I think in the

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>playoffs to be able to advance to a countference championship.

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>We win a championship because of that. Talking to Jim

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Jackson NBA on TNT Tuesday Night Analysts, he's got Celtics

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Rockets coming up tonight, also the Clippers and the seventies sixers.

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<v Speaker 1>At what point do you think the seventy sixers have

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<v Speaker 1>to make a decision on are they a Ben Simmons

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>led team or Joel and bead lead team. That's a

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>great question because when does management really make the decision

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to say, you know, this is not going to work.

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>That's the question. Some teams do it a little bit

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>quicker than others, but because the franchise went all in

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>on both players, it's a little bit more challenging for

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>them to have to pick and choose. But they're gonna

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>have to make it because right now it's just not working.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially with Unfortunately with Al Horford came out

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and said about some stuff going on in the locker rooms,

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 1>and he kind of felled back and said, but we're

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep it in the house with you. That's something

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that's going on. And you know a lot of blame

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>got put on Jimmy Butler about saying some stuff. But

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it's ironic that when Butler left Minnesota it was issues

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>that he talked about when he left Philly with these

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>two and what's going on, it was issues. Whether that's

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, the two superstars getting not getting along with

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Brett Brown, them not getting along with themselves, it's something

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>going on deeper because there's a reason why this team

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>hasn't you know, gotten better because of the talent and this,

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, the decision to stand. Are we going with

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the hybrid point guards where you know he could do

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>multiple things we can't shoot the basketball or a dominant

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>post player who can pop even though the game is

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>revolving around primative players. That's the biggest question for Philly.

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna be our guy in the future. Okay, where

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna go? And that's something from an analytics perspective,

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, they try to look at but it's a

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.479
<v Speaker 1>tough decision. But I think I think if anything, they'll

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 1>head towards MB But the problem withold inb is, you know,

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>is his durability. You're gonna gonna put your franchise behind. Indeed,

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have to put a mandate on him about

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>getting in better shape and really being more professional about

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>what about his business? And that's gonna be a tough ask.

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>How surprised were you the Lakers didn't do anything at

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline? You know, I was surprised from the perspective,

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, they didn't want to really give up Kuzma

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>at this time um to get and you know, don't.

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>They don't really have a lot of draft assets, so

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>it had to be more given up a key asset

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 1>to one through one do I think the biggest issue

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>is trying to figure out another playmaker. Rondo's you know,

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>played well last night, but on a consistent basis for

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers, I think they really catapulta get past the

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Clippers ultimately if they had to play them and they

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean somebody else. When le bron X again, when

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>everybody talks about it, the production and playmaking goes down.

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>But who was out there that can kind of give

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.359
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<v Speaker 1>market maybe and look at some guys that are available

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's a wing player or another point guard. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't overly surprised because I knew that they covered

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<v Speaker 1>it Kyle Kuzma much more because they think he still

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<v Speaker 1>has the potential to be you know, a dynamic third option,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coming in off the bench. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in the next month with the guys being

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0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>You played for twelve teams in the NBA set right,

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Do you have all the jerseys from all

0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 1>twelve teams? And can you name the twelve teams in order? Who?

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Of course because they all paid checks. But I know

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the name? Okay, none know the name. That's now a

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>jersey I don't have. Damon Stoudemy still has my Portland

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 1>jersey and you know he still hasn't here is a

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 1>sentenceis so I got an issue with that. That's my god.

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 1>But that's the only one. Uma here, Mavericks Jersey, got

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>that right? Got those two? No? You had Toronto in there? No,

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>no Mavericks, no no, I said, uh, Portland, Portland has

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>my that's where I played with that name in that.

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Let me run down, okay, Mavericks Jersey, Philly, Golden State.

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Then I went to from Golden State and went to Portland,

0:37:52.600 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>then to Atlanta, to Cleveland, to Miami, Sacramento, Hugh Euston, Phoenix, La.

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Now Portland was in ninety eight ninety nine, so that

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>lockout year, I think the Nets, I said, the next

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>jersey the second team. Okay, okay, good job I got

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>all of them. So I had some great cities. Man,

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna see the beauty of it. Though, leta say

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the beauty of it then it is that you know,

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>as a player, you don't envision yourself, um, you know,

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>traveling and being on different teams, and after my injury

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>my third year, that kind of set my career back.

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it is what it is. But I

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<v Speaker 1>got an awesome my opportunity to see some great cities,

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<v Speaker 1>play for some great franchises, and more importantly, meet a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great people on and off the court. So

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>things that I do now M having that kind of

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.479
<v Speaker 1>career path that has opened it up to be able

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>to have those friendships, you know, those connections that I

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.720
<v Speaker 1>never would have had. But I have chosen that path myself.

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Of course not you know, but sometimes in life, things

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>happened that you've got to roll with punches, you know, Paulie,

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Can we call Portland? Can we call Damon Sodomar at

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>least get Jim back in his jersey by Yeah, called

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>him all, Bret. He's at the Pacific University. Okay, Todd.

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, see when you get ahold of Damon sonomam

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>On the case you get a judge back. Yeah, I

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>mean you should. I mean you only played like nine

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>games for Portland. Yeah, I played a little bit more,

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more, okay, old jersey nine nine starts

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>doing it. I got your nine starts with Portland, Yeah,

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 1>nine starts. But I played a lot of minute with him,

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, honestly though, you know Dan the bringing a

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>little special about Portland. That was the first time in

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 1>my career I got to the playoffs. Was that year, um,

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and we lost to We lost to San Antonio in

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the Western Conference Final that year, and they went on

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to win their first championship with Popovich that year, just

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks. I didn't mean to be smirched your Portland

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>career there. I mean, I'm sorry, Bun, I'm sorry about that. Hey,

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>but I'll make up for it by talking about how

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 1>great you were at Ohio State hunt that. How about

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>helping me get my jersey? I will. We're gonna work

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:17.359
<v Speaker 1>on that today. All right. That's fun to night. Thank you, Jimmy,

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:22.000
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<v Speaker 1>who would you rather have as your starting quarterbacks? Hilp

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<v Speaker 1>Rivers or Tasom Hell, they're both so random they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be competing for jobs in what a month and eight days? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the question. Now, what is Taysom Hill's contract situation unrestricted? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver return man. You gotta pick one of the two.

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<v Speaker 1>So is he gonna be a starting quarterback Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>running back returnment. Yes, I'm going number two. I see

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<v Speaker 1>him in that slash. I know you do well well

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to see if you do it. Yeah, McLevin, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta remember Jeff Duncan said to us that Sean Payton

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<v Speaker 1>used him as a Steve Young to Joe Montana, Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Duncan fever pomer this for the I think the athletic Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, so, I would lean there will be a

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback, not at all probe necessarily about all right,

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback, I mean Steve Young that's if that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's the number one B reporter, that's pretty high,

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<v Speaker 1>high expectations there in New Orleans. I think Steve Young

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<v Speaker 1>He was not as athletic as Taysom Hill, but Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a backup somewhere, hanging on, hanging on, yeah, fully,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had started about twenty games in his career

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<v Speaker 1>he played in the UNSFL. Yes, then he played in Tampa,

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<v Speaker 1>he played an Ish and like, yeah, he had he

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<v Speaker 1>had about twenty five starts in the NFL. Yeah, before

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<v Speaker 1>he took over. Yes, Like nobody starts their professional quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>career at thirty and very rarely anyway, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that that's ever happened before. And how

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<v Speaker 1>often do these hybrid players ever work out where sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we line them up at wide receiver, sometimes he's at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>That player never lasts a whole career. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>I really love this guy. And look, he may be

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