WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2021 NFL MegaPod Week 14 Preview 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:12.000 Check it down Man, No down Man. Thursday Morning, decept 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:16.759 for nine one. It's the Beating the Book Podcast, Megapod Gill, 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:21.799 Alexander and Crew, Mikey Palm, Todd Wishnev and our guests, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.119 who will reveal momentarily live from the d A's that 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:27.600 I should say a downtown Laws Vegas. I was about 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.720 saying at Circus Circus Sports, at the d UH at 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.600 our Roads. At first of all, Hello, mikey, Okay, good morning. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.760 You were a little rushed coming in here. You are right, Um, 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.120 I'm okay, everything is fine. We're worried about you. I was. 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.680 I was fine. Usually I'd be here so so early 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.559 because I'm doing Follow the Money. But that's right, that's right. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:49.360 Today they had they had Jason Robbins, Jason Robbins. They 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:53.159 were in Connecticut today, Todd wishing from his money. Jason. Wait, wait, 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.160 what did Jason Robbins say? Did you say we we 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.120 don't allow winners. In a hard hitting interview with Mitch 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.760 and Paul or Um, he clarified after after about ten 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.160 minutes of infomercial for DraftKings. In his biography, he clarified 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.280 that what he meant was not that they don't want winners. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:14.160 They don't want professionals like Billy Walters. They feel it's 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.360 unethical for you to bet align one way to move 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:18.760 it and then come in have you on it the 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.960 other way. That's that's not the kind of people. They were, 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.160 just like the people that are manipulating their stock by 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.600 short selling it so that their hedge fund bunnies can 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.960 buy it cheaper. He said that, I just I just 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.080 watched it coming in or listen to it coming in. Interesting. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.760 The subset of Billy Walters like Betters is so very small. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.160 They're rampant. Yes, I was gonna say, by the way, 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:41.920 that was the voice that Todd wished from his mom's 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.440 cork addict in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Yans, are you good, Todd? 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.840 I'm doing great. We've got a big Picksburg Stores game tonight. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.040 So if yen's are thinking anything about that game, YenS better, 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.080 you know, consult with your Pittsburgh story. Ens are crime 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.880 renounced renounced? J Todd wish. Now we are pleased to 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.440 have back on the show. Uh two years in a row. 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.200 Now on the megabody comes on a numbers game and 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:10.760 also on visa everywhere, but thrilled to happen in the megapod. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.000 Not I renounced you, not at all, Jeff Schwartz. Everybody 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.639 from the Jeff Schwartz is smarter than your podcast serious 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.280 x M Fox Sports. I don't know what else you do? 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.320 You do everything? How you doing? Man? I am good. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.000 I am glad to be here. Thanks for having me. 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.040 I'm coming to Vegas to the end of the month. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.280 My wife's coming to usher concert. I am not I'm 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.840 coming to watch football and gamble, so I will be 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:37.000 there the first the second. I am pumped to come 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.839 to Vegas um and just watch sports and my wife 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.480 and her friend do whatever they want to do. Jeff, Jeff, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:48.280 where do you live. I live in Charlotte, Oh, Jeff, 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.519 Jeff has good. I can I share what you told 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.239 us before that you have a commercial a commercial being 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:57.080 shot in his house right now for Toyota, which apparently 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.400 is a regular thing. So Jeff is confined to a 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.519 room do this podcast. I thought that was part of 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.080 the toot. I'm actually in my bath I'm in my 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.440 bathroom right now, so that's where I'm at. I'm tucked away. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:14.440 You can see like those towels, towel, Yeah, I urge 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.359 it in my bathroom and my wife's vanity is where 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.440 I'm at right now. I heard Jeff on the show 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.560 talk about the great time he had at Stadium Swim. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.320 We didn't even know he was there over the summer. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.119 You gotta let us know when you're coming, big guy. Yeah, 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:26.560 I was there. It was a ton of fun. We 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.360 were there kind of with our Fox Digital Gambling crew 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.880 Sammy pe and Jason McIntyre are producer Conrad and oh 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.839 my god, it was it was just a preseason game, 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.640 Like it was so cool being up there. Um, the 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.000 setting is fabulous. What was the crowd, like, Jeff, Because 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:43.720 I hear a lot of stuff from Mike Bomb, but 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.160 you never you never can really tell whether he's shilling 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.000 for the company. I'd like to know what you what 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.600 you think about the crowd was it? Was it a 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.920 incredible stuff to look at crowd? Was it a little 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.560 bit older crowd or was it like, what was the 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.960 crowd from your perspective? Was an offensive line crowd? dB crowd? 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.640 What we got the gist of it. What's an offensive 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.440 line crowd that's a little heafy. It's like an offensive 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.640 line crowd is a little helfier crowd that you don't 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:13.640 necessarily want to see bathing suits, whereas a dB crowd 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.240 is more of a low fat um, you know, nicer 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.960 to look at crowd. We were up in one of 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.520 the cabin is up top, and so the view we 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.960 mostly got were the waitresses walking around, and so I 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.960 would say that's more of a dB crew than office crew. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.440 That's we're going, yeah, that's we're going with it for 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.160 our ratings. Um. But it was just like it was 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.120 a week night, so it wasn't it wasn't wild, but 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.080 it has a cigar with a little bit to eat. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.239 It was fantastic, kind of fun. It's a great idea. 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.880 It's a really cool idea to have. Uh just that 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.240 big old bar outside with all the TVs. It is 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.479 the staple of circa. You can't throw out those dbs either, 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.120 Todd same same sort of thing, just shut down for us. 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:59.400 You cannot like well, I like a wide receiver diva crowd, 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:04.000 and and that's a crowd you're you're looking for, Jeff, 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.800 I've been on Friday night. I love that your wife 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.840 wants to come here and see usher. That's the best 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.680 of detail so far of this show. She loves. Well, 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.600 we've been so she went to E d C two 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.359 years ago before COVID. How old was your wife that 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.600 she goes to A d C six? We and we've been. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.440 We were in Vegas. We saw who do we see? 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.760 We went to, uh what Republican? Saw someone? Um? And 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.120 then we went to last time we were here. We 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.480 went to Encore Beach Club and saw Marshmallow. Before that 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:38.640 was uh was who was it? Someone famous? We went 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.440 and saw it was a lot of fun at what republic? 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.479 A ton of fun? Wow? Good for you man, entire 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:48.440 Vegas experience. Um, yes, all right, So we have to 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:49.800 get a few things out of the way before we 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.320 get to our I want to ask a question. Would 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.280 Jeff be considered the most practicing Jew of the three 0:05:56.279 --> 0:06:00.599 of you? Probably? So? Yes? I am a reform warm Jew. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.080 Todd is a renounced formal Did you eat on your 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:08.240 kipper on, jeffor do you fast on your kipper? I fast? 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.800 I fast on kipor by the way, young kippor by 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.200 the way, my Israeli mom would like you to know, 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:20.600 Jeff Jeff on pisa? Um, do you eat bread? No? 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:26.600 I do not either. Okay, Wow, we're still tied. This 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.359 is gonna be a tough one. Do you know what 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.680 che is? I shot my load. That's it. That's all 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:39.640 I got. Do you know what chevous is? I don't 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.159 think so. Okay, and Gill doesn't know either. We're still 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.400 Todd Todd. Now. Now'll say it in a way that 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:52.440 actual people who know Hebrew could understood. Sony guts. We 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.800 go Todd and I go have homos at the homeless 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:56.839 Grill and there are Sephardic Jews and they speak Keeper 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.599 and they only understand me. They don't know a word 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.160 that Todd is saying, because he has makes this horrible 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.280 giving the Eastern European. I'm giving him the Eastern European. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.240 I feel like that was a word that he butcher completely. Yes, 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.120 I'll just go with that. I mean, it's are you 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.840 trying to say, I don't I don't know what there's 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.600 also an Eastern European Jewish way of talking. That's what 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.320 I was giving. Yeah, but what is it is a 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.800 holiday in in summertime with cheesecake, And I mean, I 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.840 don't want to get into the whole thing. Choose in 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:32.040 their cheesecake. It's a big it's a big cheesecake, whatever, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.800 it's when you want to get I love how you 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.800 don't want to get into anymore. But we're already down 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.760 this road and people, if they do, don't care, they're 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.520 already twoed out so great that you don't want to 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:48.560 get into as they're trying to break the time between 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.840 you and Billy Jewish, as Aaron Shots famously said. Aaron 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.280 Shots also Tribesman, head of Football Outsiders. I'm gonna have 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.080 to get used to the what was the word he 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:04.440 used of this spot guests and he comes back every 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:09.600 year plus he still comes back. It's a J plus podcast. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:16.160 Can't slow listening fascinating to me. Yeah, can't slowed down 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:26.200 for midwesterners. Oh he and Iowan who went to Notre 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.600 Dame with us three. Alright, so uh, let's get this 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.400 stuff out of the way before we're gonna pick. There's 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.200 a few things. We had one survivor down three five 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:39.160 poor Vikings selectors, including your buddy Joe Peter, who also 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.200 won the Booby Prize, come on for next week on 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.320 a numbers So Joe Pete is going to come on 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.800 a Numbers game on Tuesday, and he's going to describe 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.079 because I lived this through him on Tuesday because I 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.320 went to the Raiders Skins game, Raiders watching football team 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.160 game and we had dread zone in front of us, 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.160 and as soon as Golf hit that touchdown pass, I 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.520 just slumped in my chair for Joe, who it's six 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.319 million dollar Survivor pool Jeff at CIRCA and we started 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.880 with four thousand eighty entries. Now there's twenty three left. 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.760 Joe got down to twenty. So he's gonna explain. Now. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.760 Most gambles are like, how do you hedge out of this? 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.440 You don't hedge. Joe is a former Wall Street guy, 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.240 so he did this entirely intricate thing that we're going 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.200 to go through a numbers game, and all while that happening, 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.480 what was happening? He wins the quarterly booby. That was 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.199 my tweet though. When they lost, I said congrats to him, 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:31.000 and I'm sure you made money off of this, but 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.960 most people wouldn't have made anything. Um. I met a guy, Yeah, 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.800 we met a guy after Derek and I did our 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.920 hit with Fami Sunday morning. That was one of they 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.960 and he had the Eagles and I said, have you 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.560 hedged it all yet? He said him and his partner. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.560 This is what they do for a living there from California. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.840 They bet pros, the bet sports for a living. They 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.080 bought six entries together they each put in three thousand. 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.319 They had this one left. I said, have you guys 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.319 hedged it all yet? He said, no, No, I'm today. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.400 I'm my first hedge. I'm gonna bet we bet five 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.559 thousand on the Jets money line today in case they 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.600 have you know that we'll get into I'm just giving 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.920 an example of what those what's going on out? So 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.840 twenty three left. What's the intrinsic values like two hundred? 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.520 I had it written down, but it's it's not quite 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.360 three hundred thousand. Yeah. Uh, the number would be do 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:19.920 do Do do. I'll check it on my phone, but 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.320 it's it's it's a whopping number of the intrinsic value 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.240 of the remaining twenty three. And you would think this week, 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:32.800 by the way, here it is, Uh, everybody has seattle available, 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:39.800 everybody has um, everybody has what else available? Tennessee available, 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.440 twenty of twenty three have the charges available? By the way, 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:47.760 intrinsic value of the remaining is two hundred. I should 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:49.679 have been prepared for this, I apologize, do to do 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.679 do do? Pardon me? Pardon me? I know this is 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.720 very exciting for all of you. Hold on intrinsic value 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.000 two hundred and sixty thousand, eight hundred sixty fifty seven cents. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:04.800 Now there's also those that have the Chiefs and Buccaneers 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.520 available that could possibly win an extra million should they 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.800 get there. They cannot play for the seventh million, well 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.440 they cannot, but they can. They can, but they should not. 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.800 So there's still in place two of the remaining there's 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.440 one different people twenty because two people still have two left. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:22.960 Um and then Todd, how did we do? I did 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.480 terribly last week? How did we all do? Last week? 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.719 Everybody went on and two? Everybody was worth and to 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.960 me and me and Gilly were just inches away from 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.120 going to and one late in the game with the 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.200 back door, but Mattie Eyes, of course, Maddie Ice cannot 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.920 come through for us. So we all go one and two. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.360 So the record stay eighteen and twenty one for Gilly, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.800 Mike eighteen twenty and one, a tiny bit ahead of 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.360 Gil and meet two games back in the lost column 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.200 seventeen and twenty two. However, there is news on the 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.400 teaser front as both Michael and Gilly went with the 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:00.760 Minnesota Vikings, and Jared Off not only knocks them out, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.480 but he gives me the middle because I had the 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.199 Lion's money line with Minnesota plus four and a half 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.840 and I won my teaser. They lost their teasers. I 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.360 now take a commanding lead in teasers. Damn eight and five, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.720 the Mikey six and seven and Gills five seven and one. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.520 I am five seven and one in teasers. That is 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.360 six and seven. You know he should also mention I 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.760 came a swirling wind away from covering with the covering 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.840 with the Bills on Monday. The Bills was not the 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.440 right side. What are you talking about? Wait a minute, 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.559 hold on, I thought the Bills was the right side. Yes, 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.640 So let's factor Bob is like on the year and 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.800 he had the Bills saying watching the game, you didn't 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:43.040 think the Patriots deserved to cover that game. So let 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:44.760 me let me bring Jeff in for this. Okay, So 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.960 yesterday on the radio, so so I have I have 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:52.080 Michael Lombardi on every Wednesday Wednesday on the show. I 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.559 can't remember what data is anymore, So, um, Michael, do 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.319 you mean god? God, okay, God, oh my fault stop. 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:03.959 Let me just sorry. No. So I on Tuesday morning, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:08.240 after the Bills Patriots game, I made the, I guess, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:13.120 rather controversial statement. What I was saying was great game plan, right. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.520 We all knew that New England was going to know 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.280 there are there are a run heavy team to begin with. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.360 With the inclement weather, with the swirling winds, they're gonna 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.880 take even more advantage of that great. My statement Tuesday morning, though, 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:30.000 was that I felt that Belichick did not play it 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.000 completely optimally because I thought in the second quarter he 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.840 went extreme with not throwing it even once, and so 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:42.640 therefore when the wind was behind him, uh, he left 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:46.600 open the door late for Buffalo to beat them seventeen fourteen. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.200 I even texted Todd and you guys during the game. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:50.840 I was like, if Buffalo comes back and wins this 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.120 by a score, let's go back to that second quarter 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.319 where even on that last drive in the second quarter, 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.720 Buffalo gained twenty yards on first down under two minutes 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.439 left it England did's pardon of me, New England did, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.080 and he still figuratively punted on the drive. Then literally, 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.480 by the way, whatever they were doing at the end 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:09.040 of that half, both of those coaches. So that was 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.480 my point again holding the one thought like great strategy, 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.560 but also, yeah, I don't know, maybe he got away 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:21.600 with it, was my phrase. And so Lombardi um disagreed, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.640 which you're titled to disagree with. That he didn't disagree violently. 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.440 He violently disagreed right his words, where he violently disagreed 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.920 with me and said I was wrong. Right, he said 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:36.680 I was wrong, and he violently disagrees and then says that, yes, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.840 Belichick played not to loose, which sounds to me like 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.520 the disagreement was so violent that it's almost an agreement. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.280 So I'm curious where you stand on that, Jeff. That 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.360 was only the half of it, by the way. Yeah, look, 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.480 obviously I think Bill Belichick took a little bit of 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.040 joint winning the game with three passes, right, I think 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.280 like he he loved that. They You're right, I mean 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.360 the Bills threw the ball with the win, then they 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.440 were fine. Obviously, Josh Allen has a cannon and Mac 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.280 Jones doesn't. But there were opportunities, especially how much they 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.120 run the ball to play action passed again, it worked, 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.280 and I think Belichick takes a lot of pride in 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.320 it working the way he wanted to work. But yeah, 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.320 they had lost and I had to build minus two 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:16.880 and a half. So I would have loved if then 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.800 they would have scored and won that game by three. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.760 But I I I think that what happened this year 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.320 is people bash Bill Belichick so much in the off 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.800 season when Tom Brady won a Super Bowl that guys 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.680 like me who loved Bill Belichick and the way he coaches, 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.000 were so like, you guys are wrong about this. He 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.280 can still coach, and now that he's doing well this season, 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.400 all of us are like, see, we told you he 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.760 can still coach. Guys. You know, part of his issue 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.600 had been as a as a as a GM. He 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.240 was not great as a general manager. But he fixed 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:48.640 that this year, right. He brought in players that have 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.600 helped him. Matthew Judon has won a great addition, and 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.560 the guys on defense Hunter Henry Right obviously drafting Mac Jones. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.120 He's always been able to coach, and so I think 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.080 a lot of us are being very loud about how 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.880 wrong people were about Belichick saw seasons. It's an interesting point. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.240 So when it went further was then Michael explained to 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.280 me even when I so, I gave a historical comparison 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:13.400 the nineteen eighties six NFC championship, which you're too young, probably, Jeff, 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.920 to even remember, was after the Giants Washington was the 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.480 Giants Washington NFC Championship. Uh, Giants won the Super Bowl 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.880 that year. Was the Gatorade on every win that year, um, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:26.680 even though the first Gatorading was eighty four, but that 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.760 was the year that it was every game. So swirling 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.360 winds at the metal lands forty mile per hour plus 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.160 and Bill Parcels to this day he said, because I 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.080 remember the game, I was watching it and this is 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.400 where sort of my blink Malcolm Gladwell thing happened the 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.440 other night. Why I said what I said. What Parcels 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.520 did was the Giants actually deferred Washington was with the 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.040 wind in the first quarter. The Giants actually took a 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.280 seven and nothing lead in the first Quartering Parcels says, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.920 to this day, that's why we won that game, because 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.120 we understood how to play it. And then we just 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:56.920 stepped on the gas in the second and we held 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.400 back in the half time and we won seventeen and nothing. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.160 So Lombardi said to me, yesterday, and I love and 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.040 I like Michael Lombardi, but he was very, uh, I 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.760 don't know, very very adamant in his position that I 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:12.199 was completely wrong, and he violently disagreed. What he said was, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.919 he goes, well, what you didn't understand, Kill was that 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.560 it was swirling wins, and so Belichick determined that he 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.480 couldn't do anything. So then my counter was exactly kind 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.680 of what you said about Josh Allen there. I said, well, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.479 then you have to concede that he must not have 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:30.920 trusted Mac Jones completely, which to me sounds like an 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.560 obvious comment that apparently was very controversial, and that sort 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.960 of triggered ahold another thing, which is I won't bore 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:41.000 you with, but um, anyway, I think it's fair to 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.520 say that Belichick would prefer to take the game out 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.680 of mac Jones hands. Yeah, that's not that's not something. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.919 It's not a controversial statement. So I think that again, 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.240 I think that there's a novelty to winning a game 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:58.080 with just three rushing attempt three like he actually loves 0:17:58.480 --> 0:17:59.920 they won this way. Whether or not it was the 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:01.640 right way to do it the wrong way to do it, 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.720 the fact is that Belichick loves that he won a 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.879 game in this manner, and Buffalo's gotta come to New 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.119 England Buffos this weekend, which I think they do. I 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.360 think they are full two games back of New England. Um, 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.879 they're not gonna win the ANFC East in the years. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.240 Can I just say one thing. I bet the Patriots 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.080 forty one to one and thirty two to one a 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.040 couple of weeks ago to win the Super Bowl. I 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.720 am a hundred percent in Euro Camp. Belichick did not 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.359 forget how to coach. This is a man who won 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.600 eleven games with Matt Castle at quarterback. Do you remember 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.800 Matt Castle did not even start at USC and he 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.360 was able to win eleven games in the National Football 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.480 League with Matt Castle at quarterback. Now, Brent Mussburger, who 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.960 was on this megapod, said I'm crazy because he did 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.200 a terrible job with Cam Newton and he's a defensive coach. 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.680 He's not a Well I'm sorry, but I guess we're 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:52.560 seeing right now that the Patriots are a different level 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:56.639 of coaching than anybody else. And I remember reading this 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.639 one time where they had this thing they said every 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.760 assistant coach has to go through every single play and 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.000 tell what each player has to do on every single play, 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:11.280 that the dancing level of detail is what separates Bill 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.560 Belichick from everybody else and is what allows him two 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.040 with a rookie quarterback, put himself in a position where 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:25.119 no one would expect him to at this. I know 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.960 that I don't think they're winning super Bowl though, So no, no, 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.120 but that's fine. But but I can always hedge out, 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.280 Jeff if if they get to the a f C 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.960 Championship game, I can hedge for a lot of money. 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.120 Fair enough. But I understand why Brett was like, I'm 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.560 not sure about by the way, how about you know 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.359 he wasn't He wasn't with the wagers. He was disagreeing 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:48.280 with me that Belichick is making. Matt Jones. I was saying, 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.520 Pat Jones looks good because of faith the Patriots, Tod, 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.560 how's your five? The one ticket on Notre Dame to 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.040 make the playoffs? Is that going very good? That's not 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.800 very good? By the way, I said, look, if they're 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.720 not getting in, I think it was still it was 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.520 not a good bet. No, it's not a good beat. 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.399 How about how about how about man just says that 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.640 Brent was here three weeks ago, and he was super 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.000 open about his stance on all things Oakland Raiders, right, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.960 he spilled the beans on everything, and then nobody picked 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:19.600 up on it. Three weeks later, he goes on j G. 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.160 The Bricket says it, and every outlet is like, oh, 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:26.280 Brett must Burger broke this story. Like I'm like, was 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.640 did this not happen? Or podcast? Any No, we don't 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.240 count anyway. That was great at Brett though, to be 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.080 as open as you want to know whether you count 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:43.600 or not? Why left off the post? Okay, we should 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:46.280 probably do best bets then, huh, let's start with best bets? Um, 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.560 three best bets? Oh, Thursday night, your thoughts on Pits 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:51.080 first of all, doesn't have to be a best bet, 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.720 but just thoughts on Thursday Night football tonight, Jeff. Uh. 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.600 Two teams that are It's not a mathematical elimination game 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:59.520 for Pittsburgh in Minnesota, but it might as well be. 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.320 Pits for six one and one and one score games 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.000 this year, which is pretty amazing. There's six five and 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.000 one on the season, six one and one and one scores, 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.320 and then Minnesota is five and seven. They've lost seven 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.359 games all by combined twenty eight points, each of which 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:17.879