Speaker 1: Check it down Man, No down Man. Thursday Morning, decept
Speaker 1: for nine one. It's the Beating the Book Podcast, Megapod Gill,
Speaker 1: Alexander and Crew, Mikey Palm, Todd Wishnev and our guests,
Speaker 1: who will reveal momentarily live from the d A's that
Speaker 1: I should say a downtown Laws Vegas. I was about
Speaker 1: saying at Circus Circus Sports, at the d UH at
Speaker 1: our Roads. At first of all, Hello, mikey, Okay, good morning.
Speaker 1: You were a little rushed coming in here. You are right, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, everything is fine. We're worried about you. I was.
Speaker 1: I was fine. Usually I'd be here so so early
Speaker 1: because I'm doing Follow the Money. But that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Today they had they had Jason Robbins, Jason Robbins. They
Speaker 1: were in Connecticut today, Todd wishing from his money. Jason. Wait, wait,
Speaker 1: what did Jason Robbins say? Did you say we we
Speaker 1: don't allow winners. In a hard hitting interview with Mitch
Speaker 1: and Paul or Um, he clarified after after about ten
Speaker 1: minutes of infomercial for DraftKings. In his biography, he clarified
Speaker 1: that what he meant was not that they don't want winners.
Speaker 1: They don't want professionals like Billy Walters. They feel it's
Speaker 1: unethical for you to bet align one way to move
Speaker 1: it and then come in have you on it the
Speaker 1: other way. That's that's not the kind of people. They were,
Speaker 1: just like the people that are manipulating their stock by
Speaker 1: short selling it so that their hedge fund bunnies can
Speaker 1: buy it cheaper. He said that, I just I just
Speaker 1: watched it coming in or listen to it coming in. Interesting.
Speaker 1: The subset of Billy Walters like Betters is so very small.
Speaker 1: They're rampant. Yes, I was gonna say, by the way,
Speaker 1: that was the voice that Todd wished from his mom's
Speaker 1: cork addict in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Yans, are you good, Todd?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. We've got a big Picksburg Stores game tonight.
Speaker 1: So if yen's are thinking anything about that game, YenS better,
Speaker 1: you know, consult with your Pittsburgh story. Ens are crime
Speaker 1: renounced renounced? J Todd wish. Now we are pleased to
Speaker 1: have back on the show. Uh two years in a row.
Speaker 1: Now on the megabody comes on a numbers game and
Speaker 1: also on visa everywhere, but thrilled to happen in the megapod.
Speaker 1: Not I renounced you, not at all, Jeff Schwartz. Everybody
Speaker 1: from the Jeff Schwartz is smarter than your podcast serious
Speaker 1: x M Fox Sports. I don't know what else you do?
Speaker 1: You do everything? How you doing? Man? I am good.
Speaker 1: I am glad to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm coming to Vegas to the end of the month.
Speaker 1: My wife's coming to usher concert. I am not I'm
Speaker 1: coming to watch football and gamble, so I will be
Speaker 1: there the first the second. I am pumped to come
Speaker 1: to Vegas um and just watch sports and my wife
Speaker 1: and her friend do whatever they want to do. Jeff, Jeff,
Speaker 1: where do you live. I live in Charlotte, Oh, Jeff,
Speaker 1: Jeff has good. I can I share what you told
Speaker 1: us before that you have a commercial a commercial being
Speaker 1: shot in his house right now for Toyota, which apparently
Speaker 1: is a regular thing. So Jeff is confined to a
Speaker 1: room do this podcast. I thought that was part of
Speaker 1: the toot. I'm actually in my bath I'm in my
Speaker 1: bathroom right now, so that's where I'm at. I'm tucked away.
Speaker 1: You can see like those towels, towel, Yeah, I urge
Speaker 1: it in my bathroom and my wife's vanity is where
Speaker 1: I'm at right now. I heard Jeff on the show
Speaker 1: talk about the great time he had at Stadium Swim.
Speaker 1: We didn't even know he was there over the summer.
Speaker 1: You gotta let us know when you're coming, big guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was there. It was a ton of fun. We
Speaker 1: were there kind of with our Fox Digital Gambling crew
Speaker 1: Sammy pe and Jason McIntyre are producer Conrad and oh
Speaker 1: my god, it was it was just a preseason game,
Speaker 1: Like it was so cool being up there. Um, the
Speaker 1: setting is fabulous. What was the crowd, like, Jeff, Because
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of stuff from Mike Bomb, but
Speaker 1: you never you never can really tell whether he's shilling
Speaker 1: for the company. I'd like to know what you what
Speaker 1: you think about the crowd was it? Was it a
Speaker 1: incredible stuff to look at crowd? Was it a little
Speaker 1: bit older crowd or was it like, what was the
Speaker 1: crowd from your perspective? Was an offensive line crowd? dB crowd?
Speaker 1: What we got the gist of it. What's an offensive
Speaker 1: line crowd that's a little heafy. It's like an offensive
Speaker 1: line crowd is a little helfier crowd that you don't
Speaker 1: necessarily want to see bathing suits, whereas a dB crowd
Speaker 1: is more of a low fat um, you know, nicer
Speaker 1: to look at crowd. We were up in one of
Speaker 1: the cabin is up top, and so the view we
Speaker 1: mostly got were the waitresses walking around, and so I
Speaker 1: would say that's more of a dB crew than office crew.
Speaker 1: That's we're going, yeah, that's we're going with it for
Speaker 1: our ratings. Um. But it was just like it was
Speaker 1: a week night, so it wasn't it wasn't wild, but
Speaker 1: it has a cigar with a little bit to eat.
Speaker 1: It was fantastic, kind of fun. It's a great idea.
Speaker 1: It's a really cool idea to have. Uh just that
Speaker 1: big old bar outside with all the TVs. It is
Speaker 1: the staple of circa. You can't throw out those dbs either,
Speaker 1: Todd same same sort of thing, just shut down for us.
Speaker 1: You cannot like well, I like a wide receiver diva crowd,
Speaker 1: and and that's a crowd you're you're looking for, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I've been on Friday night. I love that your wife
Speaker 1: wants to come here and see usher. That's the best
Speaker 1: of detail so far of this show. She loves. Well,
Speaker 1: we've been so she went to E d C two
Speaker 1: years ago before COVID. How old was your wife that
Speaker 1: she goes to A d C six? We and we've been.
Speaker 1: We were in Vegas. We saw who do we see?
Speaker 1: We went to, uh what Republican? Saw someone? Um? And
Speaker 1: then we went to last time we were here. We
Speaker 1: went to Encore Beach Club and saw Marshmallow. Before that
Speaker 1: was uh was who was it? Someone famous? We went
Speaker 1: and saw it was a lot of fun at what republic?
Speaker 1: A ton of fun? Wow? Good for you man, entire
Speaker 1: Vegas experience. Um, yes, all right, So we have to
Speaker 1: get a few things out of the way before we
Speaker 1: get to our I want to ask a question. Would
Speaker 1: Jeff be considered the most practicing Jew of the three
Speaker 1: of you? Probably? So? Yes? I am a reform warm Jew.
Speaker 1: Todd is a renounced formal Did you eat on your
Speaker 1: kipper on, jeffor do you fast on your kipper? I fast?
Speaker 1: I fast on kipor by the way, young kippor by
Speaker 1: the way, my Israeli mom would like you to know,
Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff on pisa? Um, do you eat bread? No?
Speaker 1: I do not either. Okay, Wow, we're still tied. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a tough one. Do you know what
Speaker 1: che is? I shot my load. That's it. That's all
Speaker 1: I got. Do you know what chevous is? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Okay, and Gill doesn't know either. We're still
Speaker 1: Todd Todd. Now. Now'll say it in a way that
Speaker 1: actual people who know Hebrew could understood. Sony guts. We
Speaker 1: go Todd and I go have homos at the homeless
Speaker 1: Grill and there are Sephardic Jews and they speak Keeper
Speaker 1: and they only understand me. They don't know a word
Speaker 1: that Todd is saying, because he has makes this horrible
Speaker 1: giving the Eastern European. I'm giving him the Eastern European.
Speaker 1: I feel like that was a word that he butcher completely. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'll just go with that. I mean, it's are you
Speaker 1: trying to say, I don't I don't know what there's
Speaker 1: also an Eastern European Jewish way of talking. That's what
Speaker 1: I was giving. Yeah, but what is it is a
Speaker 1: holiday in in summertime with cheesecake, And I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to get into the whole thing. Choose in
Speaker 1: their cheesecake. It's a big it's a big cheesecake, whatever,
Speaker 1: it's when you want to get I love how you
Speaker 1: don't want to get into anymore. But we're already down
Speaker 1: this road and people, if they do, don't care, they're
Speaker 1: already twoed out so great that you don't want to
Speaker 1: get into as they're trying to break the time between
Speaker 1: you and Billy Jewish, as Aaron Shots famously said. Aaron
Speaker 1: Shots also Tribesman, head of Football Outsiders. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to get used to the what was the word he
Speaker 1: used of this spot guests and he comes back every
Speaker 1: year plus he still comes back. It's a J plus podcast.
Speaker 1: Can't slow listening fascinating to me. Yeah, can't slowed down
Speaker 1: for midwesterners. Oh he and Iowan who went to Notre
Speaker 1: Dame with us three. Alright, so uh, let's get this
Speaker 1: stuff out of the way before we're gonna pick. There's
Speaker 1: a few things. We had one survivor down three five
Speaker 1: poor Vikings selectors, including your buddy Joe Peter, who also
Speaker 1: won the Booby Prize, come on for next week on
Speaker 1: a numbers So Joe Pete is going to come on
Speaker 1: a Numbers game on Tuesday, and he's going to describe
Speaker 1: because I lived this through him on Tuesday because I
Speaker 1: went to the Raiders Skins game, Raiders watching football team
Speaker 1: game and we had dread zone in front of us,
Speaker 1: and as soon as Golf hit that touchdown pass, I
Speaker 1: just slumped in my chair for Joe, who it's six
Speaker 1: million dollar Survivor pool Jeff at CIRCA and we started
Speaker 1: with four thousand eighty entries. Now there's twenty three left.
Speaker 1: Joe got down to twenty. So he's gonna explain. Now.
Speaker 1: Most gambles are like, how do you hedge out of this?
Speaker 1: You don't hedge. Joe is a former Wall Street guy,
Speaker 1: so he did this entirely intricate thing that we're going
Speaker 1: to go through a numbers game, and all while that happening,
Speaker 1: what was happening? He wins the quarterly booby. That was
Speaker 1: my tweet though. When they lost, I said congrats to him,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you made money off of this, but
Speaker 1: most people wouldn't have made anything. Um. I met a guy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we met a guy after Derek and I did our
Speaker 1: hit with Fami Sunday morning. That was one of they
Speaker 1: and he had the Eagles and I said, have you
Speaker 1: hedged it all yet? He said him and his partner.
Speaker 1: This is what they do for a living there from California.
Speaker 1: They bet pros, the bet sports for a living. They
Speaker 1: bought six entries together they each put in three thousand.
Speaker 1: They had this one left. I said, have you guys
Speaker 1: hedged it all yet? He said, no, No, I'm today.
Speaker 1: I'm my first hedge. I'm gonna bet we bet five
Speaker 1: thousand on the Jets money line today in case they
Speaker 1: have you know that we'll get into I'm just giving
Speaker 1: an example of what those what's going on out? So
Speaker 1: twenty three left. What's the intrinsic values like two hundred?
Speaker 1: I had it written down, but it's it's not quite
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand. Yeah. Uh, the number would be do
Speaker 1: do Do do. I'll check it on my phone, but
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a whopping number of the intrinsic value
Speaker 1: of the remaining twenty three. And you would think this week,
Speaker 1: by the way, here it is, Uh, everybody has seattle available,
Speaker 1: everybody has um, everybody has what else available? Tennessee available,
Speaker 1: twenty of twenty three have the charges available? By the way,
Speaker 1: intrinsic value of the remaining is two hundred. I should
Speaker 1: have been prepared for this, I apologize, do to do
Speaker 1: do do? Pardon me? Pardon me? I know this is
Speaker 1: very exciting for all of you. Hold on intrinsic value
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty thousand, eight hundred sixty fifty seven cents.
Speaker 1: Now there's also those that have the Chiefs and Buccaneers
Speaker 1: available that could possibly win an extra million should they
Speaker 1: get there. They cannot play for the seventh million, well
Speaker 1: they cannot, but they can. They can, but they should not.
Speaker 1: So there's still in place two of the remaining there's
Speaker 1: one different people twenty because two people still have two left.
Speaker 1: Um and then Todd, how did we do? I did
Speaker 1: terribly last week? How did we all do? Last week?
Speaker 1: Everybody went on and two? Everybody was worth and to
Speaker 1: me and me and Gilly were just inches away from
Speaker 1: going to and one late in the game with the
Speaker 1: back door, but Mattie Eyes, of course, Maddie Ice cannot
Speaker 1: come through for us. So we all go one and two.
Speaker 1: So the record stay eighteen and twenty one for Gilly,
Speaker 1: Mike eighteen twenty and one, a tiny bit ahead of
Speaker 1: Gil and meet two games back in the lost column
Speaker 1: seventeen and twenty two. However, there is news on the
Speaker 1: teaser front as both Michael and Gilly went with the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, and Jared Off not only knocks them out,
Speaker 1: but he gives me the middle because I had the
Speaker 1: Lion's money line with Minnesota plus four and a half
Speaker 1: and I won my teaser. They lost their teasers. I
Speaker 1: now take a commanding lead in teasers. Damn eight and five,
Speaker 1: the Mikey six and seven and Gills five seven and one.
Speaker 1: I am five seven and one in teasers. That is
Speaker 1: six and seven. You know he should also mention I
Speaker 1: came a swirling wind away from covering with the covering
Speaker 1: with the Bills on Monday. The Bills was not the
Speaker 1: right side. What are you talking about? Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: hold on, I thought the Bills was the right side. Yes,
Speaker 1: So let's factor Bob is like on the year and
Speaker 1: he had the Bills saying watching the game, you didn't
Speaker 1: think the Patriots deserved to cover that game. So let
Speaker 1: me let me bring Jeff in for this. Okay, So
Speaker 1: yesterday on the radio, so so I have I have
Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi on every Wednesday Wednesday on the show. I
Speaker 1: can't remember what data is anymore, So, um, Michael, do
Speaker 1: you mean god? God, okay, God, oh my fault stop.
Speaker 1: Let me just sorry. No. So I on Tuesday morning,
Speaker 1: after the Bills Patriots game, I made the, I guess,
Speaker 1: rather controversial statement. What I was saying was great game plan, right.
Speaker 1: We all knew that New England was going to know
Speaker 1: there are there are a run heavy team to begin with.
Speaker 1: With the inclement weather, with the swirling winds, they're gonna
Speaker 1: take even more advantage of that great. My statement Tuesday morning, though,
Speaker 1: was that I felt that Belichick did not play it
Speaker 1: completely optimally because I thought in the second quarter he
Speaker 1: went extreme with not throwing it even once, and so
Speaker 1: therefore when the wind was behind him, uh, he left
Speaker 1: open the door late for Buffalo to beat them seventeen fourteen.
Speaker 1: I even texted Todd and you guys during the game.
Speaker 1: I was like, if Buffalo comes back and wins this
Speaker 1: by a score, let's go back to that second quarter
Speaker 1: where even on that last drive in the second quarter,
Speaker 1: Buffalo gained twenty yards on first down under two minutes
Speaker 1: left it England did's pardon of me, New England did,
Speaker 1: and he still figuratively punted on the drive. Then literally,
Speaker 1: by the way, whatever they were doing at the end
Speaker 1: of that half, both of those coaches. So that was
Speaker 1: my point again holding the one thought like great strategy,
Speaker 1: but also, yeah, I don't know, maybe he got away
Speaker 1: with it, was my phrase. And so Lombardi um disagreed,
Speaker 1: which you're titled to disagree with. That he didn't disagree violently.
Speaker 1: He violently disagreed right his words, where he violently disagreed
Speaker 1: with me and said I was wrong. Right, he said
Speaker 1: I was wrong, and he violently disagrees and then says that, yes,
Speaker 1: Belichick played not to loose, which sounds to me like
Speaker 1: the disagreement was so violent that it's almost an agreement.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious where you stand on that, Jeff. That
Speaker 1: was only the half of it, by the way. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: obviously I think Bill Belichick took a little bit of
Speaker 1: joint winning the game with three passes, right, I think
Speaker 1: like he he loved that. They You're right, I mean
Speaker 1: the Bills threw the ball with the win, then they
Speaker 1: were fine. Obviously, Josh Allen has a cannon and Mac
Speaker 1: Jones doesn't. But there were opportunities, especially how much they
Speaker 1: run the ball to play action passed again, it worked,
Speaker 1: and I think Belichick takes a lot of pride in
Speaker 1: it working the way he wanted to work. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they had lost and I had to build minus two
Speaker 1: and a half. So I would have loved if then
Speaker 1: they would have scored and won that game by three.
Speaker 1: But I I I think that what happened this year
Speaker 1: is people bash Bill Belichick so much in the off
Speaker 1: season when Tom Brady won a Super Bowl that guys
Speaker 1: like me who loved Bill Belichick and the way he coaches,
Speaker 1: were so like, you guys are wrong about this. He
Speaker 1: can still coach, and now that he's doing well this season,
Speaker 1: all of us are like, see, we told you he
Speaker 1: can still coach. Guys. You know, part of his issue
Speaker 1: had been as a as a as a GM. He
Speaker 1: was not great as a general manager. But he fixed
Speaker 1: that this year, right. He brought in players that have
Speaker 1: helped him. Matthew Judon has won a great addition, and
Speaker 1: the guys on defense Hunter Henry Right obviously drafting Mac Jones.
Speaker 1: He's always been able to coach, and so I think
Speaker 1: a lot of us are being very loud about how
Speaker 1: wrong people were about Belichick saw seasons. It's an interesting point.
Speaker 1: So when it went further was then Michael explained to
Speaker 1: me even when I so, I gave a historical comparison
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties six NFC championship, which you're too young, probably, Jeff,
Speaker 1: to even remember, was after the Giants Washington was the
Speaker 1: Giants Washington NFC Championship. Uh, Giants won the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: that year. Was the Gatorade on every win that year, um,
Speaker 1: even though the first Gatorading was eighty four, but that
Speaker 1: was the year that it was every game. So swirling
Speaker 1: winds at the metal lands forty mile per hour plus
Speaker 1: and Bill Parcels to this day he said, because I
Speaker 1: remember the game, I was watching it and this is
Speaker 1: where sort of my blink Malcolm Gladwell thing happened the
Speaker 1: other night. Why I said what I said. What Parcels
Speaker 1: did was the Giants actually deferred Washington was with the
Speaker 1: wind in the first quarter. The Giants actually took a
Speaker 1: seven and nothing lead in the first Quartering Parcels says,
Speaker 1: to this day, that's why we won that game, because
Speaker 1: we understood how to play it. And then we just
Speaker 1: stepped on the gas in the second and we held
Speaker 1: back in the half time and we won seventeen and nothing.
Speaker 1: So Lombardi said to me, yesterday, and I love and
Speaker 1: I like Michael Lombardi, but he was very, uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, very very adamant in his position that I
Speaker 1: was completely wrong, and he violently disagreed. What he said was,
Speaker 1: he goes, well, what you didn't understand, Kill was that
Speaker 1: it was swirling wins, and so Belichick determined that he
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. So then my counter was exactly kind
Speaker 1: of what you said about Josh Allen there. I said, well,
Speaker 1: then you have to concede that he must not have
Speaker 1: trusted Mac Jones completely, which to me sounds like an
Speaker 1: obvious comment that apparently was very controversial, and that sort
Speaker 1: of triggered ahold another thing, which is I won't bore
Speaker 1: you with, but um, anyway, I think it's fair to
Speaker 1: say that Belichick would prefer to take the game out
Speaker 1: of mac Jones hands. Yeah, that's not that's not something.
Speaker 1: It's not a controversial statement. So I think that again,
Speaker 1: I think that there's a novelty to winning a game
Speaker 1: with just three rushing attempt three like he actually loves
Speaker 1: they won this way. Whether or not it was the
Speaker 1: right way to do it the wrong way to do it,
Speaker 1: the fact is that Belichick loves that he won a
Speaker 1: game in this manner, and Buffalo's gotta come to New
Speaker 1: England Buffos this weekend, which I think they do. I
Speaker 1: think they are full two games back of New England. Um,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna win the ANFC East in the years.
Speaker 1: Can I just say one thing. I bet the Patriots
Speaker 1: forty one to one and thirty two to one a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago to win the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: am a hundred percent in Euro Camp. Belichick did not
Speaker 1: forget how to coach. This is a man who won
Speaker 1: eleven games with Matt Castle at quarterback. Do you remember
Speaker 1: Matt Castle did not even start at USC and he
Speaker 1: was able to win eleven games in the National Football
Speaker 1: League with Matt Castle at quarterback. Now, Brent Mussburger, who
Speaker 1: was on this megapod, said I'm crazy because he did
Speaker 1: a terrible job with Cam Newton and he's a defensive coach.
Speaker 1: He's not a Well I'm sorry, but I guess we're
Speaker 1: seeing right now that the Patriots are a different level
Speaker 1: of coaching than anybody else. And I remember reading this
Speaker 1: one time where they had this thing they said every
Speaker 1: assistant coach has to go through every single play and
Speaker 1: tell what each player has to do on every single play,
Speaker 1: that the dancing level of detail is what separates Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick from everybody else and is what allows him two
Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback, put himself in a position where
Speaker 1: no one would expect him to at this. I know
Speaker 1: that I don't think they're winning super Bowl though, So no, no,
Speaker 1: but that's fine. But but I can always hedge out,
Speaker 1: Jeff if if they get to the a f C
Speaker 1: Championship game, I can hedge for a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. But I understand why Brett was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure about by the way, how about you know
Speaker 1: he wasn't He wasn't with the wagers. He was disagreeing
Speaker 1: with me that Belichick is making. Matt Jones. I was saying,
Speaker 1: Pat Jones looks good because of faith the Patriots, Tod,
Speaker 1: how's your five? The one ticket on Notre Dame to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs? Is that going very good? That's not
Speaker 1: very good? By the way, I said, look, if they're
Speaker 1: not getting in, I think it was still it was
Speaker 1: not a good bet. No, it's not a good beat.
Speaker 1: How about how about how about man just says that
Speaker 1: Brent was here three weeks ago, and he was super
Speaker 1: open about his stance on all things Oakland Raiders, right,
Speaker 1: he spilled the beans on everything, and then nobody picked
Speaker 1: up on it. Three weeks later, he goes on j G.
Speaker 1: The Bricket says it, and every outlet is like, oh,
Speaker 1: Brett must Burger broke this story. Like I'm like, was
Speaker 1: did this not happen? Or podcast? Any No, we don't
Speaker 1: count anyway. That was great at Brett though, to be
Speaker 1: as open as you want to know whether you count
Speaker 1: or not? Why left off the post? Okay, we should
Speaker 1: probably do best bets then, huh, let's start with best bets? Um,
Speaker 1: three best bets? Oh, Thursday night, your thoughts on Pits
Speaker 1: first of all, doesn't have to be a best bet,
Speaker 1: but just thoughts on Thursday Night football tonight, Jeff. Uh.
Speaker 1: Two teams that are It's not a mathematical elimination game
Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh in Minnesota, but it might as well be.
Speaker 1: Pits for six one and one and one score games
Speaker 1: this year, which is pretty amazing. There's six five and
Speaker 1: one on the season, six one and one and one scores,
Speaker 1: and then Minnesota is five and seven. They've lost seven
Speaker 1: games all by combined twenty eight points, each of which
Speaker 1: by one score Minnesota by three currently. Yeah, So the
Speaker 1: way I look at this game is Mike Tomlin Trump
Speaker 1: hold the numbers. Now, he's fantastic against the spread, his underdog, right,
Speaker 1: we know that obviously, especially at home. He's not at
Speaker 1: home right now, but he's he's on the road. And
Speaker 1: I look at a lot of games to my eyes
Speaker 1: as offensive linement, Right, who's better in the trenches, And
Speaker 1: right now it's it's Pittsburgh. Right those offensive lines beat up.
Speaker 1: Derrisau is probably not gonna play tonight. Feeling is out
Speaker 1: as well, I believe right now Dalvin Cook might come back,
Speaker 1: but the Vike can actually play fine without him. But
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's pass rush is gonna get after Cousines the entire night.
Speaker 1: Like I just think that you look at where where
Speaker 1: the advantage is in this game, it's the stealer's offensive
Speaker 1: line and defensive line against the Vikings. I think Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: plus three is to play here. I don't feel great
Speaker 1: about it, but that's what I would take tonight. The
Speaker 1: Spurn's offensive line is good, Jeff, because I think they're horrible.
Speaker 1: They can never get any holes for for Naja at all. Well,
Speaker 1: part of the part of what helps them is Ben
Speaker 1: throws the ball very quickly because he's afraid of pressure.
Speaker 1: I like, you just don't pressure very well. They're one
Speaker 1: of the lowest teams the NFL and pressure rate, so
Speaker 1: we won't have to worry about the offensive line and
Speaker 1: being concerned because there are offensive is better than we
Speaker 1: give him credit for. I think teams just don't respect
Speaker 1: Ben's ability to pass the ball, so they load up
Speaker 1: the boss against Pittsburgh, I definitely load the books. Todd,
Speaker 1: you get a play? You have a play here, Todd, No,
Speaker 1: I have no play. I mean, these are the most
Speaker 1: unpredictable teams in the NFL. Every game it comes down
Speaker 1: to something crazy at the end. I happen to have
Speaker 1: the Ravens on the money line last week and that
Speaker 1: ridiculousness with hardball going for two. By the way, it
Speaker 1: is justin Tucker not the best kicker in the history
Speaker 1: of football. Wouldn't you maybe want to go to overtime
Speaker 1: with him? I don't know anyway. Don't you think that
Speaker 1: that was a close decision though, that you shouldn't be
Speaker 1: trashed for that? I could see trashing him. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: not trashing him. I'm just saying I was hoping. I
Speaker 1: was hoping to go to overtime with my Ravens moneyline ticket.
Speaker 1: That's what I was hoping. Weren't you. Weren't you rather
Speaker 1: hoping to convert the two? I didn't want to take
Speaker 1: that chance. I don't want to. I would much rather
Speaker 1: go to overtime with the better team, but with the
Speaker 1: better with the the better team, don't you want to
Speaker 1: go to overtime? And the better kickers hadn't stop but
Speaker 1: they hadn't stopped them the last two drives the others
Speaker 1: there's the Steelers are just terrible on offense. I know
Speaker 1: they look good in the fourth quarter. It's my team,
Speaker 1: we don't. We're not a good team. Come on, it's
Speaker 1: a joke where the Ravens are better. T J Watt
Speaker 1: to serve that play justin just enough. You have to
Speaker 1: play on this I do. This is my third best bet.
Speaker 1: This is the game. I want. I want over, I
Speaker 1: want over in this game. You know why? I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be defensive scoring in this game? Okay over? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Four and a half? Forty four and half. Look, the
Speaker 1: Vikings are not gonna be able to run the football chefs. Right.
Speaker 1: That means they're gonna have to throw the football With Cousins,
Speaker 1: they're gonna make plays, and they're not gonna make plays right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna get sacks and interceptions. They're also going to
Speaker 1: hit some things deep down the field. And I think
Speaker 1: that the Steelers will be able to move the ball
Speaker 1: that the Ravens defense puts much more pressure on than
Speaker 1: the Vikings does. Ben's gonna have time to throw the
Speaker 1: ball around there. I mean he's going to complete some
Speaker 1: fifty fifty jump balls. Uh tonight. I think the Vikings
Speaker 1: are in a very bad way here. I like the
Speaker 1: Steelers to win the game also, but I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be scoring here. I can see this game somewhere
Speaker 1: in that range either way. But I really think the
Speaker 1: Steelers have the advantage even though they're on the road
Speaker 1: on the short week. If you up ship on Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: fuck him. Listen, Tom, I watched that. I watched. I
Speaker 1: watched that whole game last week, that whole game for
Speaker 1: many reasons. Okay, but I watched that whole game. There
Speaker 1: was only one time that there was third or seven
Speaker 1: or longer than he threw the ball. Beyond the sticks
Speaker 1: once in the entire game, everything short, short, short, and punt.
Speaker 1: They might as well punt on third down and hope
Speaker 1: for a role with this guy. He's a joke there.
Speaker 1: They paid him all this money. You finally come around
Speaker 1: that they can't take I can't take it. I can't
Speaker 1: take it anymore. He sticks. You were right when Gail
Speaker 1: had to torn Achilles. You were right on that. When
Speaker 1: we were on with Lobardi and you said, Mikey, Mikey, Mikey,
Speaker 1: how can you bet on Kirk Cousins? You were right, Gil,
Speaker 1: Can I get those tennis balls back? Writhing in pain?
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I want to tip my
Speaker 1: hat to Mikey for a bidding finally coming around. The
Speaker 1: first step in any addiction is to say that you
Speaker 1: have a problem. And he has now finally said that
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is a problem, and I and I have
Speaker 1: to feed him and I give him a round of applause.
Speaker 1: Great job. I'm not there on e yet. This is so,
Speaker 1: This is this is so. As a Washington fan, right,
Speaker 1: this was the issue that they kept signing him to
Speaker 1: the one year deals. He's been on himself for one year,
Speaker 1: worked out beautifully for him financially. But this is the
Speaker 1: this isn't Jeff knows this better than we do. The
Speaker 1: cruelty of the NFL economic system with quarterbacks, right, you
Speaker 1: only want a quarterback with a guy over performing on
Speaker 1: a rookie contract of your Hall of Fame, right, And
Speaker 1: so that it's this weird middle point where these teams
Speaker 1: are forced to make nine figure decisions. In the case
Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousins was eighty four million, but now nine
Speaker 1: figure decisions on guys that you just don't quite know
Speaker 1: yet if they're gonna win you with simer worlds, it's
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, Dak Prescott, like that period.
Speaker 1: And it's so difficult, right, I mean, like it's impossible
Speaker 1: the Browns are gonna to do this with Baker Mayfield, right,
Speaker 1: Are they gonna they're gonna pay Baker Mayfield or are
Speaker 1: they gonna him? Or what do they do? Right? Because well,
Speaker 1: they got dropped. A quarterback does not to drop the quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: It's not the best year for that. So did you
Speaker 1: let him play out? What if he actually plays? All?
Speaker 1: Next is And like a lot of teams are stuck
Speaker 1: on the spot because you're exactly right. There there's a
Speaker 1: lot of good quarterbacks in the the NFL. This is not
Speaker 1: a lot of great quarterbacks that can lead to Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Like that's the big difference between even like a Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott and like a Pat Mahomes. Right. I think that's
Speaker 1: a really good quarterback. But you know he hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to get to that point. He doesn't play an
Speaker 1: NCWY Champshire game. Yet. Um, And that's I think that's
Speaker 1: really good though, and this maybe this's the year for them.
Speaker 1: I don't think it is, but um, you're exactly right.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money, man for these guys that
Speaker 1: are good but probably not elite. Jeff, Jeff, do you
Speaker 1: think it's Um? Do you agree with Stefanski scoffing at
Speaker 1: the question of playing case Keenam? At this point, I
Speaker 1: thought they should have put a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield is now he's off a by,
Speaker 1: so it might it might be a little bit different. Um.
Speaker 1: And then like this week, for example, thanks the Ravens
Speaker 1: are so injured, like the Browns are off of by,
Speaker 1: they're healthier. You have to figure that Baker is a
Speaker 1: little bit healthier. Right, They've got some guys back in
Speaker 1: the run game. You gotta think the Browns gonna win
Speaker 1: this game because the Ravens are so beat up they
Speaker 1: can't keep It's basically the Mark Jackson every week, just
Speaker 1: trying to make magic out of nothing each week. But
Speaker 1: Safancie I like the Fancies covered a game in division
Speaker 1: yet in his time as the brown same coach, Like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things writing on this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he has if if you check the
Speaker 1: numbers on that. Um so I'm curious about this. But
Speaker 1: the Ravens are just so the Browns have to win
Speaker 1: this weekend, Like they don't have a choice. If you
Speaker 1: can't beat this team with twenty guys on injuw reserve,
Speaker 1: just pack things up and get ready for next season.
Speaker 1: And this is the weirdest scheduling Cork where Cleveland played Baltimore,
Speaker 1: has a buy and then plays Baltimore again, which Miami
Speaker 1: and the Jets were supposed to do last year but
Speaker 1: I didn't materialize obviously. By the way back to that
Speaker 1: quarterback thing I said out loud on the show, I
Speaker 1: was like, when the Rams had Jared Golf, they should
Speaker 1: be the first team to to agree to themselves. We've
Speaker 1: got everybody else in place. He's not our guy. Let's
Speaker 1: out right not pay him and redraft a quarterback. And
Speaker 1: of course that would have made people's heads explode, But
Speaker 1: that was the first guy they got bailed out by
Speaker 1: the staffer trade man. I said that by about Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield this off season, I said the Browns should take
Speaker 1: should trade up for one of those quarterbacks in this
Speaker 1: draft because and take off to what the Chiefs do
Speaker 1: with Alex Smith. Yeah, these teams just don't have the
Speaker 1: onions to do it though, for for the reasons, for
Speaker 1: obvious reasons too, I guess yeah. Okay, best bets, Jeff,
Speaker 1: we start with you. We'll start with one. What do
Speaker 1: you got? Okay? So I have I give my three
Speaker 1: best bets for my show later today I'm on on
Speaker 1: Fox Digital. Can I do a teaser for one of them?
Speaker 1: That's what I have for No, because because we have
Speaker 1: a teaser of the week coming later, so it can total. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'll go with the Chiefs and Raiders under this weekend. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, the Chiefs count under a belief six to
Speaker 1: the last seven days. They the Raiders um offensively each week,
Speaker 1: kind of not quite sure. Chief's defense is a lot
Speaker 1: better tell us like forty nine and around give me
Speaker 1: Chiefs Raiders already, Chiefs Raiders under forty eight, Chiefs Raiders
Speaker 1: under for Jeff Schwartz, Michael Palm, Michael Palm, we didn't
Speaker 1: give your We don't give your full credentials. Conciliary to
Speaker 1: Derek Stevens at sirgu Sports, vice president of operations, co
Speaker 1: host of odds On with a mall Shaw, who will
Speaker 1: be the guest next week on this part. Wait a second.
Speaker 1: He's also the part of the on the Board of
Speaker 1: the American on the Board of the American Gaming As
Speaker 1: people to not have high r s tax problems unless
Speaker 1: they get a five to one or some nonsense like that. Mikey,
Speaker 1: do you want to beverage? Yes? Wow, just thumbs up
Speaker 1: and she knows what to bring and they know they
Speaker 1: don't depending on the day at the time. Look at that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the football team, football team straight. He
Speaker 1: always takes my picks, Mike, Mike, Mikey, just guaranteed they're
Speaker 1: winning the games. I mean, that's all the impetus. We're
Speaker 1: going to win this game. I'm confident in that. Well,
Speaker 1: he's been there at land Over and heat. There's clear
Speaker 1: views of the play clock and it's really look looks
Speaker 1: they're better than Dallas. I'm gonna tell you this right now.
Speaker 1: I watched this game against the Saints. I downgrade dall
Speaker 1: Us a lot. On that game. They were playing against
Speaker 1: the guy that a middle finger, that can't even play
Speaker 1: every down. Now, he couldn't he couldn't throw the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, they couldn't do anything. They had one run.
Speaker 1: They tried to run the ball. They couldn't run the ball.
Speaker 1: They had one run where Pollard that did the you know,
Speaker 1: the linebacker took a bad angle there and they let
Speaker 1: Pollard get free. You can't run the ball. The accident accurate.
Speaker 1: He looks very inaccurate, right. He didn't look like he
Speaker 1: wants to run it. I don't like this Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: as a play caller. I think he's a bad play caller.
Speaker 1: Look at what they get the ball with five minutes up,
Speaker 1: two scores and he throws two incomplete basses and bunts.
Speaker 1: He took thirty seconds off. What kind of what offense
Speaker 1: is this? This is like crystal ball. Listen, the football
Speaker 1: team is a better team. Than the Cowboys, and the
Speaker 1: football team is gonna win on Sunday and land Over
Speaker 1: give me four and a half, Juste Mikey, Mike Mikey.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to do this to you, but most
Speaker 1: places have it at four. I'm sorry. I was going
Speaker 1: to take them to but most places have them before
Speaker 1: I said they're gonna win. So what do I care?
Speaker 1: Give me the four? That's fine. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: giving it to you for the rake is. It's all
Speaker 1: by the way, Jeff Oregon in Oklahoma, who you got
Speaker 1: bowl game? Nobody? You should not wager on this game.
Speaker 1: There are there are two intim coaches with like half
Speaker 1: their staff's gone. Why would you Jeff Organ, my Organ,
Speaker 1: my story, Anthony Brown and play they're all freshmen the
Speaker 1: rest of the game. How can you in game? You
Speaker 1: have no idea who's playing that game and how much
Speaker 1: you're gonna play. That's a that's a that's a very
Speaker 1: acceptable answer. But I do like the actually have a
Speaker 1: better chance that pream. That's what you know in game
Speaker 1: for if you I'll say, if you want to take
Speaker 1: a Patch twelve game, take Utah plus the points in
Speaker 1: the rose ball m all right, you tap plus the points, Todd,
Speaker 1: what's your first pick? Okay? How did go when your
Speaker 1: when your mom was out of town? How did it go?
Speaker 1: No one broke into the house. Was everything was able
Speaker 1: to be held down to uh acceptable levels? And uh
Speaker 1: you know it was all good to mail was taken
Speaker 1: in properly, It was all good. Did you have enough
Speaker 1: stamp cereal in the house that you were fed properly? Don't?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't eat cereal gilt. But you know,
Speaker 1: the mocking part of our the the mocking part of
Speaker 1: our megapod is now over. Gilly. Sorry, did you say
Speaker 1: cork attic yet? Yes? It is? Okay. I just want
Speaker 1: to make sure because that really bothers some people, It
Speaker 1: really does. Why do you have to say where Todd is? Sorry? Apologies?
Speaker 1: Are we done? Are we done? Gilly? S? Can we
Speaker 1: move on to some real meat and potatoes football talk
Speaker 1: for a moment? Thank you? Um, I would like to
Speaker 1: take the New York Jets j good good. I'm going
Speaker 1: to take plus five grea five and a half, five
Speaker 1: and a half five speaking five, speaking to your Mike,
Speaker 1: Don it's five? What happened? We can't hear you all
Speaker 1: of a sudden Todd, get that mike right up in
Speaker 1: your mouth. Come on, probably it's mother's making a long
Speaker 1: distance phone call. You Now there you done? Yes, there
Speaker 1: is Now that everybody's had a great time. Okay. The
Speaker 1: New York Jets, Uh, I want to take them because
Speaker 1: if they're going against pace of hill. I don't think
Speaker 1: this guy is a quarterback in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: I watched the game against the other day. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, this is not a quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you want to bring him in inside the
Speaker 1: five yard line for some trickery nonsense. That's fine, he's
Speaker 1: not in every down quarterback that you're giving the Jets.
Speaker 1: Now five points against a team that is not good
Speaker 1: on offense. The Jets, you know, they didn't beat Cincinnati
Speaker 1: at home. Sooner or later they're gonna They're gonna rise
Speaker 1: up and keep one of these games close. I think
Speaker 1: this might be the week. Five points is a lot
Speaker 1: of points to be giving on the road when your
Speaker 1: quarterback is not a National Football leagu quarterback. So give
Speaker 1: me the plus five with the Jets, thank you. Alvin
Speaker 1: Camara will play for the Saints in this game. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: is he playing quarterback. He should play quarterback because the
Speaker 1: other guys thinks, uh, you know the Taysom Hill. Thy
Speaker 1: we're talking about quarterback contracts where they have to make
Speaker 1: a decision on big you know, huge multi year deals
Speaker 1: for these guys. What's the what's the deal with the
Speaker 1: Saints outbidding themselves for Taysom Hill? Like I think Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill might have new pictures of Sean Payne because I
Speaker 1: just don't get it. He doesn't make sense. And ye,
Speaker 1: what would be what what? What would be the problem
Speaker 1: with that? Again? Now I'm just kidding. Get all that money.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you just think, like I'm just
Speaker 1: jealous that I didn't have the pictures of my coach
Speaker 1: who a lot more. Yeah, but it'd say it's amazing.
Speaker 1: My My first play is the is excuse me, the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We're gonna be Oh, is it three
Speaker 1: or three and a half? I believe it's three and
Speaker 1: a half most places. What do you have? I have
Speaker 1: three and a half most three and a half by
Speaker 1: the time we did this show. Um, I don't see
Speaker 1: how Buffalo turns around quickly here and is compete I
Speaker 1: won't say competitive, but I don't think. I don't see
Speaker 1: how they keep it this close against Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: That game against Atlanta, by the way, even though we
Speaker 1: only lost the cover by a score, that picks six
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half was just utter
Speaker 1: nonsense by Tampa Bay. That should have been a blowout
Speaker 1: and we weren't even close to winning that. Really, Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay is about as solid of a team, uh as
Speaker 1: we're getting here Arizona. You know, Green Bay, Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: I think those are the three best teams in the NFC,
Speaker 1: maybe the NFL quite frankly, because everybody else has a
Speaker 1: little flaw right now. Though I love Tennessee at full strength,
Speaker 1: and though I love Indianapolis, but I think, um, I
Speaker 1: think those are the three best teams right now. And
Speaker 1: I think Tampa Bay is just as solid as they come.
Speaker 1: And I think the Bills, listen if if I know,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is not built like New England. New England
Speaker 1: in some respects is built to beat Buffalo. So it's
Speaker 1: not a fair comparison. But I'll take my chances with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady figuring out that defense, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: If the Bills can, if the Patriots can just do
Speaker 1: the rigo drill right when what Washington used to do
Speaker 1: in the eighties and say here's our one back, we're
Speaker 1: running it at you try to stop us. I think
Speaker 1: Tom Brady can figure his way around a defense like that. Um,
Speaker 1: And I just think I just think that line is
Speaker 1: low and I'm taking Tampa Bay minus and three and
Speaker 1: a half. I my, I'll go and show my second
Speaker 1: pick right now, because I was gonna wait till do
Speaker 1: Tampa till the end. But I'm with you on Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay here. Um. I think part of it with with
Speaker 1: Buffalo is there just been a lot of offensive aggression
Speaker 1: this year. They haven't been able to fix a lot
Speaker 1: of the issues, mostly because their offensive line is not
Speaker 1: as good as it was last year and Josh Allen's
Speaker 1: back to being erratic. And when you play Tampa Bay's defense, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the second here is a little bit up right now,
Speaker 1: but that that defensive long especially with Vita Via back,
Speaker 1: is really elite and teams have trouble moving the ball
Speaker 1: on Tampa Bay, especially if you have an erratic quarterback
Speaker 1: on the flip side. The most underappreciated unit in the
Speaker 1: NFL's Tampa Bay's offensive line, who number in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Justin line yards you corned football outsiders their number one
Speaker 1: the NFL and and pressure rate basically allowing the least
Speaker 1: amount of pressure on the quarterback in the NFL. They're
Speaker 1: an elite unit, guys. And right now what they're doing
Speaker 1: exactly at the back half of last season, right they're
Speaker 1: winning and covering games. They're looking a machine right now.
Speaker 1: Boom boom boom. Also, Buffalo now was going from cold
Speaker 1: weather to warm weather. I always thought that was very
Speaker 1: difficult to do at the end of the season. I
Speaker 1: like Tampa here I got in the minus three, but
Speaker 1: three and a half I'll take anyways, Todd point counterboy.
Speaker 1: By the way, Vita Vea is so nimble for his
Speaker 1: size it's unbelievable if you watch film or it's incredible.
Speaker 1: What's the counter did this? Dodd? You are on Buffalo?
Speaker 1: I'm I wanna take Buffalo plus three and a half. Um,
Speaker 1: I just think that. Uh you know, I know that
Speaker 1: the Bucks have looked amazing the last three weeks. They
Speaker 1: crushed the Giants, they beat in Indianapolis, they crushed Atlanta,
Speaker 1: but they also lost to Taylor Heineck. Does anybody remember
Speaker 1: a ten minute drive by Taylor Heineck at the end
Speaker 1: of the game against the team. I mean, woof these
Speaker 1: the w f t s drove it right down their
Speaker 1: throats at the end of the game. I don't think
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is this jug or not by the way
Speaker 1: it should be playing. Okay, fair enough, Look, I look,
Speaker 1: I agree Tampa Bay is a great team. But Buffalo
Speaker 1: is almost a Super Bowl contender. So if you're giving
Speaker 1: me that that hub, I want to take Buffalo plus
Speaker 1: the three and a half I think Buffalo is in
Speaker 1: the NFL, I like to go against teams that have
Speaker 1: had a little nice positive run with the team that
Speaker 1: has had a little bit of a negative run, because
Speaker 1: there's it seems to always be a regression to the
Speaker 1: mean in the NFL. So I'd like Buffalo plus three
Speaker 1: and a half. Do you really think Buffalo is a
Speaker 1: super Bowl contender at this point? Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know about super They're definitely in the top three
Speaker 1: in the a f C, aren't they Who who who's
Speaker 1: better than them in the a f C? Besides you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the Chiefs and the Patriots. Who's who's really that
Speaker 1: much better than Tennessee? Right? Yeah? I said the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and I said, besides the Chiefs and maybe the Patriots,
Speaker 1: Tennessee a full strength. But they're in. They're in the conversation.
Speaker 1: You can't just throw them out of the conversation. Jeff explained.
Speaker 1: Jeff explained to me how you can run the ball
Speaker 1: against an eight in the nine man box like the
Speaker 1: Patriots did on Monday night. Well, so on the touchdown run,
Speaker 1: the Bills just didn't didn't fill that run right from
Speaker 1: their defense or the safety overran. It was a toss
Speaker 1: right and he thought the ball was going outside. The
Speaker 1: linebacker forced it back inside. Hares made a great cut
Speaker 1: and just it was really well blocked inside by the
Speaker 1: right guard. Um and uh and the right tackle and
Speaker 1: you just cut it back on the safety I think
Speaker 1: just ran You watch him. He just ran right out
Speaker 1: the play and then just I mean, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: they had a bunch of efficient runs. They just kind
Speaker 1: of grinded it out right. They ran left, they ran right,
Speaker 1: they ran inside, they ran outside, and they just didn't.
Speaker 1: How are they able to get, Jeff, how are they
Speaker 1: able to get five and six yards to carry when
Speaker 1: when they're loading the box. Most teams can't do that
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Well, I think for a while Buffalo
Speaker 1: just kind of thought that we're gonna eventually not do
Speaker 1: it anymore. And if you noticed in the last couple
Speaker 1: of drives or linebackers just started running through. They're like,
Speaker 1: screw this, flash up, this is not gonna happen. I
Speaker 1: think they just kept thinking, like, there's no way you're
Speaker 1: gonna keep doing this to us. They're gonna eventually throw
Speaker 1: the ball. And the last couple of drives, Matt Malon
Speaker 1: just started running right through because they realized they weren't
Speaker 1: going to throw the ball at all. This was the
Speaker 1: beauty of being raised on the Hogs in the eighties.
Speaker 1: One back, he's getting the ball. The entire stadium knows.
Speaker 1: John Riggins is getting the ball. The defense is is
Speaker 1: can't do a damn thing about it. Get Joe Jacobe
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. A part of it too,
Speaker 1: when you're running itst eight and nine man boxes is
Speaker 1: you always gonna have one free guy on defense, and
Speaker 1: that free guy has to me at the tackle. So
Speaker 1: you you you put your running backs like Harris did
Speaker 1: on that long run. It's him and at the safety.
Speaker 1: If you block everyone up properly, if you count right,
Speaker 1: and you and you do your job. There's always one
Speaker 1: free guy, and that's gone away in the NFL, because
Speaker 1: why would you run into a free I mean, there
Speaker 1: were so many times in my early my career, just
Speaker 1: nine ten when like the free guy just made the
Speaker 1: play and I was like, oh, okay, well I guess
Speaker 1: he just made a play. Now off, I just don't
Speaker 1: run the ball, and the free guys they you know,
Speaker 1: the r p O. And so this was a kind
Speaker 1: of old school style and running the football that game.
Speaker 1: By the way, we didn't even measure the top when
Speaker 1: I was going through all of Jeff all the things
Speaker 1: that he does media wise, For those who don't know,
Speaker 1: Jeff played in the National Football League. Was an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman for the better part of a decade. For four
Speaker 1: we should probably point that out. At the big position
Speaker 1: did you play, Jeff? Did you played guarder, tackle? Both?
Speaker 1: What did you what did you prefer guard or tackle? Oh?
Speaker 1: Guard by far right? Guard? Why? Um at tackle? I
Speaker 1: was on an island too much. I'm not very patient,
Speaker 1: so guard. I like to get my work done as
Speaker 1: quickly as possible, and so the guy was typically right
Speaker 1: in front of me. But I knew like my time
Speaker 1: in the NFL was getting a little bit, a little
Speaker 1: bit long when those three techniques kind of moved a
Speaker 1: little bit further away from me. You know now that
Speaker 1: when I'm so wide, I hated I didn't want to
Speaker 1: play tackle anymore. So I don't know how I would
Speaker 1: do playing football now. But I loved early part of
Speaker 1: my career. And I'm huge, you know, just like guys
Speaker 1: just run into me, and I loved it. Now they
Speaker 1: tried to run around you, Jeff, I, what did you
Speaker 1: play out? What was your what was your height and
Speaker 1: weight in in uh NL, like six six and a
Speaker 1: half three forty six six and a half three forty. Man, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I'm sensing a theme. You like to have your work
Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman done quickly, and you also said,
Speaker 1: uh you like working from home. Not necessarily a coach
Speaker 1: in the future, yeah, ten hour like ten twelve college coaching.
Speaker 1: You have to convince high school kids to like you.
Speaker 1: I'm out. How many calories? How many calories a day
Speaker 1: did you have to eat to stay three forty? Everyone
Speaker 1: asked me this question. I have no idea I did
Speaker 1: this big, like and I was eighteen years old. I
Speaker 1: just eat food. I have no idea how many calories.
Speaker 1: That's probably why I'm still big. Now, what do you weigh? Now?
Speaker 1: What do you weigh? Now? About the same My all
Speaker 1: time highest three people either gain a bunch of weight
Speaker 1: or lose a bunch of weight when they've done playing lineman.
Speaker 1: Like very few, just like me, just like stay exact
Speaker 1: same way. Yeah, we see a lot of those offensive
Speaker 1: line and their shell of their former selves is not
Speaker 1: part six and a half. But he is at the
Speaker 1: net Tennessee. The most I ever weighed, the most I
Speaker 1: ever weighed was I'm six ft one. The most ever
Speaker 1: we was three hundred forty four pounds in June of
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve and currently to eighty four and
Speaker 1: going the wrong way fast. Don't do that. It's football, man,
Speaker 1: It's you just walk up this time of year. I
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, it's a big it's a big problem.
Speaker 1: Jeff's brother Mitchell, I don't know how. You don't know
Speaker 1: how you I don't know how to. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you volume gamble in college basketball. It's incredible. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's the greatest, the greatest, Oh, it's the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 1: Last year I went about four hundred and three hundred
Speaker 1: and a lot of those plays I put on Twitter
Speaker 1: the the because here's the thing, Jeff, no one's really
Speaker 1: studying the first half box scores properly, and they don't
Speaker 1: realize that Ace has a tremendous uh, a tremendous determinant
Speaker 1: and over under beds. Why why is that? Sorry? Just
Speaker 1: like the idea of you study like the first half
Speaker 1: box score like Monnith and like, oh it's fantastic though
Speaker 1: there's cham's in there like yesterday trade believe. Oh it's fun,
Speaker 1: it's so much fun. The best that Mikey isn't Drake
Speaker 1: from Iowa. Okay, yeah, yeah last night Drake. First half
Speaker 1: the game was playing way too fast. I took the over,
Speaker 1: second half easy over against so funny. Bring a Monmouth
Speaker 1: my ex so my my when I used to call
Speaker 1: my nephew but when I was married. Right, Um, he
Speaker 1: plays football at Monmouth. You know these n I L stuff.
Speaker 1: So all these guys are getting all these deals. So
Speaker 1: he plays at FCS school in Monmouth, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you, like, are you modeling clothes? Now? What's your story?
Speaker 1: He goes, well, I figured I just call I wear
Speaker 1: these people's clothes anyway, So I called him up and
Speaker 1: I said, hey, I'll where you'll where are your ship?
Speaker 1: And they send him close. Now all this college, can
Speaker 1: I get an N I L deal? You can get
Speaker 1: an n I cannot. By the way, Iowa Iowa State tonight,
Speaker 1: Jeff Iowa, Iwa State has to go up. Iowa can't
Speaker 1: ever go. The women's game was the women's Like, what
Speaker 1: is it that the women's game was? Last night? Iowa
Speaker 1: Iwa stayed and I was to both top fifteen teams
Speaker 1: and Iwa Stay beat him for the first time in
Speaker 1: seven years. It was a big Okay, But tonight the
Speaker 1: Iowa game is going over because i was my most
Speaker 1: favorite over team in college basketball. They play zero defense
Speaker 1: and they're tremendous on offense. They're like the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers run. Todd said he went four hundred and three
Speaker 1: hundred last year in college basketball. Greg Peterson had the
Speaker 1: same record one Saturday. By the way, Mikey, you can
Speaker 1: you can watch look at my Twitter. Probably three or
Speaker 1: four hundred of the plays are on Twitter, and they're
Speaker 1: not Greg Peterson type plays where the line is shade.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have time to read your Twitter
Speaker 1: when I'm live betting Todd wasn't it wasn't annoying you
Speaker 1: when Todd was interrupting you there four times? Why Why
Speaker 1: do I let myself get upset? What I remember? Whatever
Speaker 1: you filipbuster like you're doing right now. If you're gonna filibuster,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to interrupt. As long as you understand
Speaker 1: whatever he has to say is more important than when
Speaker 1: you have to say. I think it's good. I try.
Speaker 1: I try to tell him my Lombardi story yesterday? And
Speaker 1: how many times did you interrupt me? Where I was
Speaker 1: screaming at him in the car? I was like, could
Speaker 1: you love them? Because you don't answer? Yeah? And then
Speaker 1: I let you talk and you forgot where you were
Speaker 1: going because five times, because you don't have to be
Speaker 1: five times, I can't remember where it was? This kid?
Speaker 1: All right, Nuo I gave Yeah, I gave my three,
Speaker 1: but this will be my last pick. What you gave
Speaker 1: your three? Yeah, I said, Pittsburgh over third, Okay, my
Speaker 1: third pick. My second pick is the Monday night game,
Speaker 1: and I think the Arizona Cardinal sweep the Rams in
Speaker 1: the season series. I'm gonna lay the two and a
Speaker 1: half point in fact, I can't decide who's the best
Speaker 1: team in the NFC right now. I don't know. It's Packers,
Speaker 1: it's Bucks, it's Arizona. They're all right there and then
Speaker 1: there's a big drop off in my opinion, so I
Speaker 1: just think it's down three right now. Benning Market agrees
Speaker 1: that this Arizona is very balanced. I mean, the deep,
Speaker 1: the defense can put pressure on you. I like what
Speaker 1: they Chicago is a tough place to go in and
Speaker 1: play in bad weather, and they played well on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball there. I mean they kept it
Speaker 1: going with Colt mccoya quarterback. Or two wins in three weeks,
Speaker 1: this is a very solid team. I worry a little
Speaker 1: bit about kings burying the playoffs uh and his managing
Speaker 1: of the game, but they're right there with anybody here.
Speaker 1: The Rams. I'm down on the Rams. I don't they
Speaker 1: beat a high school team last week? Who cares in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: I still haven't seen Matt Stafford play good in six weeks,
Speaker 1: So play well in six weeks. I'm with the Cards.
Speaker 1: How about six years. I feel like the Rams are
Speaker 1: the team that makes the playoffs and then just get smoked.
Speaker 1: It's all great on paper, it's like the early two
Speaker 1: thousand Skins when they had Bruce Smith and Dion Sanders
Speaker 1: five years past their prime. I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: it's yeah, number two, you didn't give your second, you
Speaker 1: didn't get second. It's not that as corrected as my
Speaker 1: turn talk. That's how this works. Number two for me.
Speaker 1: Number two too for me will be where to go?
Speaker 1: Whoop up? That's my whole music. Oh, I'm also on Washington.
Speaker 1: I'm Washington plus four. I'm on I'm on the DC Skins. Baby, Uh,
Speaker 1: going for their fifth in a row. The issue though
Speaker 1: here is, by the way, for those wondering, Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: out for the year, I know you were very curious. Um,
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel has not really made a contribution either. He's
Speaker 1: been in and out of the lineup. Uh snap count.
Speaker 1: He's still a little banged up. That's not good. Logan
Speaker 1: Thomas is out for probably the rest of the regular season,
Speaker 1: if not the rest of the whole season. That's huge. Also,
Speaker 1: that's a good safety net for Taylor. Heinekey'd have Logan Thomas.
Speaker 1: So that's the negative. With Washington. They go back to
Speaker 1: how they were before with Terry McLarin being most of
Speaker 1: the offense and hoping to get something from Antonio Gibson.
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin unstoppable, and Taylor He's gotta make just enough place.
Speaker 1: But that defense. You know, I said on my show
Speaker 1: that I think Terry McLaurin is a top five wide receiver,
Speaker 1: and I'm all laughed. He laughed at me. He says
Speaker 1: he's not close to the top five, he's top ten.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's top five. There's some really
Speaker 1: good receipt I don't know. To my eye, he's as
Speaker 1: good as there is. He's their whole team, So think
Speaker 1: about that. There's no other options. Really great kid too,
Speaker 1: But the defense, Washington's defense has difference. When Chase Young
Speaker 1: went out and I love Chase Young, Jase Young went
Speaker 1: out for the season, but I said, this reminds me
Speaker 1: of LaVar Arrington, Right, great individual talents who just couldn't
Speaker 1: help themselves from freelancing, and Chase Young just always kind
Speaker 1: of he just goes upfield, right, He's never doing that.
Speaker 1: And I think Chase Young is smart enough to unlike
Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington was, Chase Young can figure this out. But
Speaker 1: they're actually better without him. Right now, and that has
Speaker 1: shown Montes Sweat not going to be here. He now
Speaker 1: has COVID too, so he's he's not back he was
Speaker 1: supposed to be. But that defense is playing much much better.
Speaker 1: And I agree with everything Mike he said about Dallas,
Speaker 1: which is also that Doc doesn't look right. He doesn't
Speaker 1: look like he wants to run, which is a huge
Speaker 1: dimension I think for them. He just wants to throw
Speaker 1: it at you at all costs. Jerry Jones and that
Speaker 1: whole Cowboys brass is still playing Zeke Elliott's contract where
Speaker 1: they're like, we got to fulfill this contract. We gotta
Speaker 1: give him the ball and not give it to Ballard
Speaker 1: with a really bad percentage. But Amari Cooper is a
Speaker 1: big deal and we'll see if he's on another pitch
Speaker 1: count with Dallas. But give me the four points. I'll
Speaker 1: take Washington here, hopefully to win out right and make
Speaker 1: this a division race, but I'll take the four points.
Speaker 1: And watching it, were you impressed being antic game with
Speaker 1: with Washington on Sunday? I was? I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: the Raiders without Waller is so difficult, though, you know,
Speaker 1: but but I love it. That was what a great experience.
Speaker 1: Why we've been to a game in a legion I
Speaker 1: have not. I'm gonna I'll be at the B y
Speaker 1: U Notre Dame game in October. Oh, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: my first experience. It was awesome and we had the
Speaker 1: red zone right in front of us. It was very cool.
Speaker 1: We have, actually for the Las Vegas Bowl because we're
Speaker 1: a sponsor and we paid a lot of money to
Speaker 1: get TV, we actually have like thirty sideline passes. If
Speaker 1: I could go on that day, if I'm free on
Speaker 1: that night, I'd like to go and be on the
Speaker 1: sideline for that would be very nice. It might be.
Speaker 1: It might be one of the better Vegas Bowls. It's
Speaker 1: the state Wisconsin. Normally that game is is like Pack
Speaker 1: twelve eight in Mountain West number one and like the
Speaker 1: PA gets their butts wop. This is a pretty good game.
Speaker 1: You're yeah, the contract now, Jeff is it rotates Pack
Speaker 1: twelve four against Big ten four SEC four every other year.
Speaker 1: Much better? Yeah, much better, much better. There. There's things
Speaker 1: about Jeff that I keep forgetting to mention as the
Speaker 1: show goes on, I'm reminded of it. Your record in
Speaker 1: PAC twelve games this year, Jeff was what yeah, thirty
Speaker 1: one and twelve. So the man knows what he speaks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't know, though he doesn't know Chevos neither, because
Speaker 1: it's not it's not it's not even in Hebrew. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what it is. Well, it is not,
Speaker 1: and vot is not in the pack twelve. So how
Speaker 1: should you know? Yeah, exactly, big. You know you don't
Speaker 1: hear about a su at chavo. Oh, that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: So number number three, Jeff, what do you got? Last one?
Speaker 1: I like the Niners here plus the point a half.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's what it's at now. Um,
Speaker 1: you know they're they're they're seventh in dv o A.
Speaker 1: The Bengals are eighteenth. And whenever we think the Bengals
Speaker 1: are actually good, they get their butts who up, like
Speaker 1: they kind of have this thing where they're just not
Speaker 1: ready for the for the limelight yet. And the Niners
Speaker 1: are going to go into Cincinnati and just handle their
Speaker 1: business shin and is great. I think against the spread
Speaker 1: after a loss, um and so giving the Niners here
Speaker 1: plus the point a half, I think they went in
Speaker 1: this game out right. Actually minus one. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to change your opinion. But they moved to
Speaker 1: minus one. Yeah, does that mean debos playing? Is that
Speaker 1: why it moved? I was just looking there either one
Speaker 1: or one and a half niners? Okay, Well that that
Speaker 1: moved a lot from me, even yesterday when I wrote
Speaker 1: this down. I'll tell you, okay buys a point a half.
Speaker 1: I'm in okay, boy. Jimmy g was rough the other
Speaker 1: day against Seattle. Was wasn't he that You get with
Speaker 1: him though? Right? But how was Bozo the Carroll doing?
Speaker 1: Not taking the field goal when you're up by seven
Speaker 1: with four minutes to go? What was right? What's he?
Speaker 1: I mean he made it? But then they fumed. I
Speaker 1: mean it was just yeah, I don't see. I was,
Speaker 1: I was. I didn't notice. You weren't there? You were
Speaker 1: at the game that game had to feel the emotion
Speaker 1: on the sidelines like it was that NFC Championship game again,
Speaker 1: both sidelines were p I mean there was. It was
Speaker 1: a crazy game with a lot of things. We went
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, forced two turnovers at the goal line, right,
Speaker 1: so it could be much much worse. I had a
Speaker 1: huge bet on the game landing odd because it was
Speaker 1: thirty three. I feel bad. And in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: it was thirty to twenty three, and I was thinking, well,
Speaker 1: it's got to be odd, right, because even if they
Speaker 1: tie at thirty all, it's gonna end thirty three thirty right,
Speaker 1: So that stays odd. But then the only way you
Speaker 1: could really lose there is if they had the overtime
Speaker 1: and it went thirty six thirty. But it was a
Speaker 1: good bet, Mike. You can laugh at me all you want.
Speaker 1: It was a great bet. When Jason Robbins finds out
Speaker 1: you're betting even and odd, you're out. Excuse me, Mike
Speaker 1: hitting there. The have it up there. They have it
Speaker 1: up there for a reason. They it's not like what
Speaker 1: j Circle will take all what jewics? Did you lay
Speaker 1: on the odd? Todd on that game? I think it
Speaker 1: was min was very good. Let me let me let
Speaker 1: me ask you. Let me ask you a question. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question about circa. Do you think
Speaker 1: you guys are too to mauthe on? So I lost?
Speaker 1: What happened? What did you say? Lost? I said, you guys?
Speaker 1: Do you think you guys are too mauthe on on?
Speaker 1: Social Um? Can you hear me? I can hear you?
Speaker 1: I think, yes, what are you, saying, Todd, do you
Speaker 1: mean Maudie is in that that they're the greatest and
Speaker 1: everyone else is terrible in in in Yeah, not in
Speaker 1: so many words, Yes, what social media is. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: but do you want your business doing that? I guess Jason,
Speaker 1: I need it. I can't hear that. Hey, Jason, we
Speaker 1: gotta gotta, we gotta Mike check on Mike Palm. Mike
Speaker 1: Palm was so flushed. So I'll answer your question. If
Speaker 1: no one else is speaking here, if they are not,
Speaker 1: I would like some of us to be less mouthy,
Speaker 1: thank you, because it's, uh, it's it's a glass house, right.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be things that we're not good at, things
Speaker 1: that we mess up on, things that and I don't
Speaker 1: I don't need No, I don't know if we needed to.
Speaker 1: Somebody says, somebody's not me Todd Todd. Todd stopped for
Speaker 1: one second. Let him finish. Now, go yes, ask him,
Speaker 1: because I don't know if you can hear me. Ask
Speaker 1: him if they even have what's their in game situation?
Speaker 1: They even happen? He said, what's your in game situation?
Speaker 1: He said, what's your in game situation? He asked, in
Speaker 1: one situation, all NFL games and the major college game
Speaker 1: like in each window for major college football Wall book,
Speaker 1: four games in each window nine one Jason hear them.
Speaker 1: I want to hear Jeff. I don't care about Todd.
Speaker 1: There we thank you, appreciating Mike check coming for a
Speaker 1: clean up. Okay, I can hear Gil now there you go. Wonderful.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that. Alright. Uh So Jeff gave his third,
Speaker 1: which means it's your turn, Mike. Okay, I was gonna
Speaker 1: go with Remember he jumped early, he jumped the line
Speaker 1: on Thursday. Okay, mikey, you're the best. We all love you.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Okay, now here's the third one. Um I
Speaker 1: would like to take. I was gonna take w f T.
Speaker 1: But I do know that was my first thing I
Speaker 1: even wrote down. I do know that every time me,
Speaker 1: you and Mike pick the same game, we never ever
Speaker 1: ever went on top of that, I need some game
Speaker 1: theory here, because if I'm behind you guys, I can't
Speaker 1: be picking the same game as you if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make the brown. So I am going to get rid
Speaker 1: of my w f T pick and I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with my tried and true, the one and only the
Speaker 1: one who never usually lets me down, and that is
Speaker 1: the under in Florida in Jacksonville Jaguars. They're not my me,
Speaker 1: but I'll see Jacksonville Jaguars can't score. Give me the
Speaker 1: under under forty three and a half. I'll take under
Speaker 1: forty three and a half. With the Jacksonville Jaguars, I
Speaker 1: think I've made it clear my opinion on their offense
Speaker 1: pretty much every single week. UH, for the last eight
Speaker 1: million weeks in a row. UH, this team cannot get
Speaker 1: the ball in the end zone. I expect them not
Speaker 1: to be able to get the ball in the end
Speaker 1: zone again against the Titans. I believe I picked it
Speaker 1: almost exactly right last week seven or something like that.
Speaker 1: I think this will be the same typical scenario. The
Speaker 1: Titans are still they still don't have all their offense,
Speaker 1: so I'm looking at thirty one for them. Jacksonville gets ten.
Speaker 1: I believe that adds up to forty one. Given me
Speaker 1: under forty three and a half in the jackson Bill
Speaker 1: Jaguars game. All right, my number three was going to
Speaker 1: be the Atlanta Falcons. It was earlier in the week,
Speaker 1: but now it's two and a half, so it's not
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. You don't learn your lesson with that
Speaker 1: Landy Ryan. We gotta stay away from him. He's like
Speaker 1: Philly Rivers. He loves burning money. Don't touch Mattie Ice.
Speaker 1: I hate to do this, Mike, but I'm also taking
Speaker 1: Arizona is my number three. Ariza. Yeah, I just Arizona
Speaker 1: crushed the Rams earlier this year in l A crushed him,
Speaker 1: and I think that that was one of the funnier
Speaker 1: or not funnier, but one of the the results earlier
Speaker 1: in the year where we all kind of looked up
Speaker 1: and like, wow, how did that happen? Because we also
Speaker 1: thought so highly of the Rams and not so highly
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals. I see no reason to go off this.
Speaker 1: I want to be on Kyler Murray's side here. It
Speaker 1: looks like he's a go looks like, uh, he's back
Speaker 1: for this. Well he was already back, um, but looks
Speaker 1: like everything's intact. DeAndre as well. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Rams are very good football team right now. I don't
Speaker 1: think Higli of Stafford. I like Arizona number three. But
Speaker 1: that means Mike, you and Peel the only way you
Speaker 1: could you guys could even change spots as if Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay covers in the and it under comes in the
Speaker 1: end of like, because you both have to do the
Speaker 1: same things. You like that, don't you. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just there, like mentioning eight weeks to go. That's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine, us already where but but but that's the
Speaker 1: only way that anything could happened. But in the teasers,
Speaker 1: he's as a mathematically insurmountable all right. Teaser Teaser of
Speaker 1: the Week, two legs six point Teaser of the Week,
Speaker 1: Jeff Um. I'm going with Seattle and Green Bay. Davis
Speaker 1: Mills the starting for the Texans. He's owing six so
Speaker 1: far this season, and they've lost less than They lost
Speaker 1: one game by three and the other one by double.
Speaker 1: I'm not really sold on Seattle, but I'm fairly certain
Speaker 1: the Texans are in a complete take moment, right. They
Speaker 1: just want They cut one of their better players this
Speaker 1: past week. They keep on doing things like that. So
Speaker 1: I'll take Seattle on the other leg. I'm gonna pulling
Speaker 1: my numbers here, but their legs is the Packers at
Speaker 1: home against the Bears. How about this Mala fleur five
Speaker 1: and spread against the Bears. Um Rogers cover his home games,
Speaker 1: He's twenty four and twelve against the spread in division
Speaker 1: at home, he's five and oh against us against the
Speaker 1: spread versus the north off of by them Bears is over, Like,
Speaker 1: give me them under? What's twelve and a half? Twelve
Speaker 1: right now? And todown? Yeah? Yeah, so you didn't under touchdown?
Speaker 1: You know the Texans first? First of all, how about
Speaker 1: are the Texans that Seattle's an eight point road favorites
Speaker 1: ridiculously right? Yeah? Mac mac Jones three forward passes to
Speaker 1: completed for nineteen yards had a better total qb are
Speaker 1: four point three than to Rod Taylor did last week
Speaker 1: two point seven total qbre. By the way, Gilly, are
Speaker 1: you coming around on the Patriots because you you you
Speaker 1: you poo pooed me many weeks now are you? I'm
Speaker 1: wondering if you're getting to the point where you're starting
Speaker 1: to maybe become a bit of a believer or are
Speaker 1: you still poop doing well again? Again, let's hold two
Speaker 1: thoughts in our heads at the same time. I don't
Speaker 1: think there is Super Bowl team right, But like, I'm
Speaker 1: not in the camp. I was never in the camp
Speaker 1: that oh Bill Belichick forgot to coach. I mean I
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots are good football team, but like,
Speaker 1: let's see what happens in January. If they fall behind
Speaker 1: in a playoff game and they have to rely on
Speaker 1: a passing game, I mean I'd fade him right like,
Speaker 1: I think that's their achilles. All these teams are. Has
Speaker 1: your opinion changed in the last day four weeks from
Speaker 1: where you were four weeks ago? Are you still pretty
Speaker 1: much the same So I'm still pretty much the same spot.
Speaker 1: Get back to me after the Indie game next week.
Speaker 1: Get back to me after that game if they if they, yeah,
Speaker 1: theybe Indianapolis. No, I was, I wasn't. I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: was just wondering how you're feeling. I don't know, alright,
Speaker 1: So Todd, you like to be the first though. We
Speaker 1: like to have Todd do the teach Todd what I
Speaker 1: would like to take the Baltimore Ravens plus eight and
Speaker 1: a half. Um, see what you want about the Ravens
Speaker 1: and the Browns and who knows what these teams are.
Speaker 1: But I believe I looked at I looked at the
Speaker 1: Browns scoring, and um, if you look at the Browns
Speaker 1: last like six or seven weeks, they can't score. They
Speaker 1: scored um ten against Baltimore, thirteen against Detroit, seven against
Speaker 1: New England, forty one against Cincinnati. That's an outlier. Ten
Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh, seventeen against then for fourteen against Arizona. How
Speaker 1: are you gonna win by eight and a half if
Speaker 1: you can't get the twenty point So you know, granted,
Speaker 1: Baltimore is all banged up and they're messed up, but
Speaker 1: I think they can keep it within eight and a half.
Speaker 1: I don't think that should be too much trouble. And
Speaker 1: then on the other side, I'm gonna take I I
Speaker 1: don't believe in the Rams. I agree with everything you
Speaker 1: said about the Rams, but plus eight and a half,
Speaker 1: that's still a lot of points. Give me the Rams
Speaker 1: plus eight and a half. I think they can keep
Speaker 1: it close against Arizona. I don't believe in Stafford. I
Speaker 1: think he's got that that that that Detroit Lions like
Speaker 1: oo Joe still in his head. I'm not a Stafford believer,
Speaker 1: but I do think they can stay within the eight.
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose one of the legs, one of those
Speaker 1: legs going downtown. Well okay, Well, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: keep you guys in it, because you know, you're so
Speaker 1: far behind, So far your next Biky, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the Steelers plus nine tonight, uh and the Titans minus
Speaker 1: two and a half. And I'm taking Tennessee in Seattle, Tennessee. Down. Wait, wait,
Speaker 1: don't say it so fast. Mikey is going with with
Speaker 1: minus two and a half. Wait, I see, let me
Speaker 1: say start with now we'll give it to you, Mikey.
Speaker 1: Calm down, Mikey. Oh my god, what's wrong with Mike
Speaker 1: He's been watching too much of a certain news program.
Speaker 1: I think Titan's minus two and a half Pittsburgh plus
Speaker 1: nine for Mikey and Tennessee Seattle for me, Titans minus
Speaker 1: two and a half in Seattle minus two and a
Speaker 1: half Seattle at Houston, Tennessee hosting the Jaguars. Alright, final
Speaker 1: two questions that end every megapond one of the big favorites.
Speaker 1: Who is the most likely to lose? Outright? Kansas City
Speaker 1: nine and a half point favorites against Wait, before you
Speaker 1: get to that gilt, can we just ask ask Mr
Speaker 1: Schwartz Los the toughest offensive lineman you ever played against?
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to answer it, because you say,
Speaker 1: oh geez and you're tired of my questions, you can
Speaker 1: just ask. I have like a limit about like forty
Speaker 1: five minutes for these things. Um uh I it's Julius Peppers,
Speaker 1: Thomas every Pudy Julius Peppers. Good answer, But kill? Was
Speaker 1: that not a good question? I thought that was very entertaining,
Speaker 1: great questions. But when Mikey stops everything and goes, oh
Speaker 1: can I just goes a question? Mr must Burger. Remember
Speaker 1: that time you influence George. We're on the train together
Speaker 1: and you said that really good? I do? I do
Speaker 1: kind of have to like, yeah, yeah, we're not final
Speaker 1: final question of the big favorites. I won't even listen,
Speaker 1: but we're talking about the big favorites. Who's the one
Speaker 1: most likely to lose? Out right, Jeff um This sounds
Speaker 1: probably pretty silly, but the Chargers? Do you trust him
Speaker 1: as a ten point favorite? Ever? Like I know the
Speaker 1: Giants no one at quarterback, but like Mike Mike Williams out,
Speaker 1: Derwin James is out, I believe in this game. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Giants cover the spread pretty well at home obviously on
Speaker 1: the road. I should say, I know Daniel Joe does
Speaker 1: not playing all things, But how are the Chargers out
Speaker 1: of all the teams, I don't trust them at all.
Speaker 1: Giants hopeful that Mike, Glenn and Ken play so they
Speaker 1: have to, so they try to avoid the jake from
Speaker 1: first start. Ever, Todd big favorite, most likely lose out right.
Speaker 1: Todd candidates Chiefs, Chargers, Titans, Seattle, Denver Texans to pull
Speaker 1: the absolute you know, grab it out of their ass
Speaker 1: and beat the Seattle Seahawks just because Seattles thinks I
Speaker 1: Am going to go with the Seattle Seahawks, also like Todd.
Speaker 1: And then the final question, if you had to bet
Speaker 1: every one of these games on the side, but you've
Speaker 1: got one free pass, one game you wanted no part
Speaker 1: of I already mentioned mine is tonight's game between Minnesota Pittsburgh. Jeff,
Speaker 1: what would that game b know that? I just don't
Speaker 1: want to wage drawing it all this Weekend's your question? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean in Lena, Carolina feels like a game that
Speaker 1: no one ever should wage drawing. If you're a way
Speaker 1: drawing that game, I'm sorry for you. Because the Falcons
Speaker 1: are the worst of the worst team every where. I
Speaker 1: had him last week too. I'm watching them just you know,
Speaker 1: they drop a past the end zone right, like just
Speaker 1: to lose the game. The worst team to ever waged drawing.
Speaker 1: Who knows what Caroline is doing each week? I have
Speaker 1: no idea. So I like that game, not way during
Speaker 1: that game. I like it, Todd, your answer, that's mine too.
Speaker 1: I will never be Maddie Bryant's Chargers Giant's Chargers. Also
Speaker 1: for Jeff Schwartz, thank you, Jeff. I appreciate it, man,
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz. Check out the guys take care of Take
Speaker 1: care to check out the podcast. Jeff Schwartz is smarter
Speaker 1: than you. Wherever podcast. That schist guy, we'll get him,
Speaker 1: that schust guy later. Gone, he's gone. He's gone. Todd,
Speaker 1: he's gone. He had to be out you. You you
Speaker 1: upset Todd, Todd wish from his mom Cork. You know.
Speaker 1: Mikey Mikey pol. I just want to say one thing
Speaker 1: about mike PM. He's just a little weasel, isn't he?
Speaker 1: He just weasels a weasel. I loved Bobby the brain
Speaker 1: heen and growing up, one of my role models. Weasel.
Speaker 1: I mean he is a weasel. To like him, but
Speaker 1: he is a weasel. I'll be honest, all right. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it guys. Thank you very kindly. Good luck to everybody.
Speaker 1: Week four teen picks in the NFL. Thank you for
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