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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: It is Coast to Coast AM. Connie Willis with you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being here. We appreciate that and

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Speaker 1: especially me, I love it. Thanks you guys so much,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for listening to my podcast, Connie Willis the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Any more information about me, just go to Connie Willis

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Speaker 1: dot com. I appreciate being here on the show, and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys checking me out elsewhere. Man, It's

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Speaker 1: it's so fun to talk to you guys everywhere. So

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Speaker 1: Paul Elder is with us tonight. Eyes of an Angel

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Speaker 1: is his book bestseller, by the way. You can find

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Speaker 1: Paul at Paul dash Elder dot com and also Monroe

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Speaker 1: Institute Dashcanada dot com. The man that has died five

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Speaker 1: times and people are asking does he just get funnier

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Speaker 1: and funnier after every death, because he's got this great

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Speaker 1: sense if you March told you, I told you you're

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Speaker 1: gonna like him. He's the uh, they said, Paul, A

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Speaker 1: couple of things like the life of the party. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know you've gotten better and better each time you've

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Speaker 1: come back. It's amazing how you keep popping out of

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Speaker 1: that body. I guess something inside of you is it

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Speaker 1: cannot wait to go home. As you said, now as

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Speaker 1: we left, you were talking about Robert Munroe and I

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Speaker 1: think you were in between death three and four. Yeah, so, um,

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Speaker 1: what was it? Oh? Yes, So Bob and Roe, as

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Speaker 1: I had mentioned, was an executive producer video shows back

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Speaker 1: in the fifties and the shadow, you know, thinks like that.

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Speaker 1: And so he began to have these out of body experiences,

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Speaker 1: spontaneous out of body experiences, which had first scared the

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Speaker 1: craft out of him, and then afterwards you thought, well,

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Speaker 1: got to find out what's causing this. And so he

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Speaker 1: eventually ended up writing a book called Journey sort of body,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, And and he also created a facility

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Speaker 1: that he got out of producing radio shows, and he

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Speaker 1: and with one of the first view of the visionary,

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Speaker 1: he was one of the first owners of cable television

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Speaker 1: companies in Swan support. Yeah, sort of set all of

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Speaker 1: ways to be able to help other people have the

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Speaker 1: this process called hemisphere synchronization or hemisy short, which was

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Speaker 1: verified that it allowed people to move into keep altered

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Speaker 1: these you know, um interesting experiences in exploring their own consciousness.

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Speaker 1: And so, as I mentioned, I man, I found out

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Speaker 1: about it, and I headed off to Virginia and returned

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Speaker 1: a number of different times, and I got to meet

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Speaker 1: Bob and we hit it off because we were both

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Speaker 1: same time. And I thought that was pretty cool. So

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Speaker 1: he encouraged me. He wanted me to become a trainer

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Speaker 1: remote viewing. And so subsequently I trained with a few

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Speaker 1: an amazing story. Um, take your time, take your time.

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Speaker 1: got the International Remote Viewing Association UVA, which has an

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Speaker 1: Lynn Buchanans, let's get back waters, even Gael Graphs, the

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Speaker 1: the things that I've done in my life, this, you know,

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