1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: with I R Radio. Everybody. I'm Ben, I'm actually this 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: is a big day. I'm sitting here in my house 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: right now. Sorry, I'm messed with my microphone. If I 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: sound clear, it's because we are really upgrading on our 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: podcast technology and now for the rest of our podcasting future. 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: I should be clear because of everybody's comments saying, get 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: been off the cell phone, get him in studio. So 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: what would you do? We bought a studio and we 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: moved to the Denver Thank Heaven's good to hear your 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: clear voice. Actually, yeah, it's good. It's better to hear 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: your clear voice. A little stuffy today, I'm gonna sniffle 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's allergy season in Denver, Colorado, and 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: it is absolutely killing you. Yeah, we know you you. 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Um that was the Ben Bitches allergy season. Yeah. Well, 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: and it didn't go away, so I don't know. I 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: expected these these bitching segments to actually go somewhere and 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: make a difference in the world. But it's great. Um. Actually, 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm also sore. I just gotta tell you about Oh 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: my god, we need to talk about how you did 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: a marathon yesterday. Yeah, my mom and I did together. 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. Ben, tell me everything. Marathons are mind 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: boggling to me because back in high school we had 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: to do two and a half miles. That was what 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: you if you did two and a half miles and 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. I knew gotten a um, and I suffered 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: through that. So how did you do almost twenty six? 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: So I do I I do sprints, So I do 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: thirteen miles sprints. So it's they're half marathons. Oh you 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: did a half marathon? Okay, yeah, so I did thirteen 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: miles yesterday trying to get my personal record. My goal 32 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: was to be below seven minutes and thirty seconds. Um, 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: I actually got my goal. I went seven minutes and 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: twenty second miles on average, which is pretty good for me. 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: My mom, who's fifty five, did eight minute thirty second 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: miles for thirteen miles. That's it's pretty good. It's so 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: so amazing. I can see doing that for two miles. Yeah, 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm hurting today, um, really bad. You know who was 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: there randomly? Dan Cox? Oh? Yeah, you took a picture 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: with him? Yeah, yeah, I didn't know he's gonna be 41 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: out there, but he was repping his met con supplements, 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: which are incredible. By the way, I took him before 43 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: the race, and um, he ended up doing the race. 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: He ran. I mean he could literally watch me run 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: the whole time, which I think was part of his plan. 46 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Well he's she does Um one are those things called 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: the Matt Man things? Iron Man? Yeah, he does the 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: Man things, which you know, if I can't even conceptualize 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: a marathon, I mind blown by iron men. Yeah, it's 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: it's it's wild. Um. I mean, honestly, today my legs 51 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: feel like concrete. Uh, I feel like I have the 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: flu just because of all the lactic gaste. Um. So 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit down out today. Actually want to 54 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: ask you to just carry this podcast, take it through, 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: because we have a lot to talk about even outside 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: of the episode. We we wouldn't be a pop culture 57 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: I think we call ourselves a pop culture Bachelor focused 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: podcast if we didn't talk about the Garrett controversy. You know, 59 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: when we whenever we have a big controversy, and this 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: is a big controversy imagination, we bring in one of 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: our favorite guests, Jackie from the Hollywood Reporter. Shill Phillis 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: in all the details all the notes. But before we 63 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: bring Jackie on, actually I want to hear just a 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: little bit. What are your initial thoughts when you heard 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: that Garrett had liked pictures and memes on social media. Um, 66 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: that we're a little barge vulgar. Uh. Some called him racist. 67 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: UM and insensitive were the words that were explained. I 68 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: would say that they are insensitive. I would say it's 69 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: definitely not a good look. Do I think we should 70 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: strongly judge him based on favorited things? I don't know. Um, 71 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: I do. I do have to say. I think there's 72 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a difference between liking things and 73 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: then like creating the social media meme or or tweet themselves. 74 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: But it's it's just not a good look. Do I 75 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: think that Garrett is racist. I don't think so. I 76 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: haven't met him. Um, you know, his apology came out. 77 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Jackie about that. I'm with you, Ashley. 78 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: I look back and I was kind of thinking through 79 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: this situation, and I don't know in what context and 80 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: when he liked these pictures. Hopefully he's learned his lesson. 81 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: It's important learn your lesson when you make mistakes like this. 82 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: But I follow some social media accounts I know I 83 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: do right now that come out with memes and pictures 84 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: that are derogatory and are probably hurtful to some people, 85 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: including Christians. You know, some of them are anti um 86 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: Christian and I followed them because some of their stuff 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: is informing. Some if it's funny, so it makes me laugh. 88 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: So it's absolutely crazy. And so my question is now, 89 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the listeners really to email us 90 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: in their opinions on this, because we're pretty open. I 91 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: think you and I talked about this earlier, and you 92 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: and I both are kind of sitting here going, yes, 93 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: totally incorrect and inappropriate for him to like space pictures. 94 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Some of them are really hurtful. There's some there's some 95 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: stuff that he liked that's like, that's not funny in 96 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: any context. Yes, some of them, some of them like 97 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: oh bad, bad, like terrible, and so you know, actually, 98 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: one thing that I think UM we want to get 99 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: away from as a generation we've done on try to 100 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: do on the podcast is you know, in sensitive things, 101 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: hurtful things, sinful things, we don't want to support, but 102 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: we also want people to be free UM to express themselves, 103 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: because then you can really say do I like this person? 104 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: Do I agree with this person? Do I not? You know, 105 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: we don't all have to be robots, we don't all 106 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: have to understanding get along with each other. We can 107 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: do controversial things. And that just means that some of 108 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: these people you're gonna say, I don't agree with you 109 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: and I don't really like you because of the way 110 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: that you're you take your stance and you publicize it. 111 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: I don't want us all to become the same. That's 112 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: my fear. And and but a lot of this stuff 113 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: that Garrett was was liking is totally inappropriate. And so 114 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: let's bring on Jackie from the Hollywood Reporter to give 115 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: us more information on exactly what happened during this controversy. 116 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hi, welcome back. It's always good to talk 117 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: to you. But there's always a secret, like darkness. We 118 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: know something has happened when Jackie, I know. So I'd 119 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: like to start off by Ashley, thank you, grasp and 120 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: you're happy news and that we can dive into it. 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, it's a nice thing. Are you talking 122 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: about it all? Thanks? I get to see Ashley making 123 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: out everywhere now all over my social media's pictures of 124 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: Ashley and Jared just mackin, well, cool it down soon, 125 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: I like, I mean, hey, don't cool it. It's really 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: hard to get Jared Um on video without him doing that. 127 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: To be honest, Hey, Jackie, real quick. Um, we have 128 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: a controversy in Badge donation, one that you know, I 129 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: don't think rivals necessarily what happened last year during Paradise, 130 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: but one that is definitely causing national attention and one 131 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: that we should approach and talk about. Can you fill 132 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: our listeners in a little bit on this Garrett controversy 133 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: um and kind of his social media behavior over the 134 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: last few years. Yeah. So it came out really right 135 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: after the show premiered, which is kind of unfortunate timing 136 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: Rebecca Um her first week of the show. This kind 137 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 1: of took over as a week one story. But um, 138 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: there were screen grabs showing an Instagram account that was 139 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: identified as Garrett Um liking a series of offensive posts 140 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: on Instagram. Um. They were posts that kind of they 141 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: mocked a range of things from like feminists, to undocumented 142 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: immigrants to some fake news story stories. Um, it was 143 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: concerning I think, but it wasn't entirely clear if it 144 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: was his Instagram account, and it wasn't things he posted, 145 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: It was just things that he liked that were shown 146 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: on screen grabs. UM. So Becca was asked about it 147 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: and she said she couldn't really speak for what someone 148 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: else does on Instagram, which is definitely makes sense, um, 149 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: but that people were entitled to their own opinion. And 150 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: then later in the week, Garrett actually released a statement 151 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: taking responsibility, apologizing um and saying, you know, he vowed 152 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: to do better kind of both on social media and 153 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: in life. UM, and he didn't really realize the power 154 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: behind you know, double tapping on Instagram, which is kind 155 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: of an interesting conversation. This is all brought up over 156 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: the last Yeah, we're listening to this and a should 157 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: turn to kind of dissect and and Ashley and I 158 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: were talking about our own personal experiences with this before 159 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: I throw it over to Ashley because she does have 160 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: a story that kind of relates back to her personally. 161 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: How in your opinion, Jackie, and I know this is 162 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: not this is an opinion, UM, so feel free to 163 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: kind of pass it off here. How should we be 164 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: viewing this? I mean, here's how he Here's how I 165 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: see them, And I could not be communicating this as 166 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: clear as I want to be. Do I agree with 167 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: the things that Garrett was liking? No, I don't. I 168 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: don't think it's right. I don't think it's it's helpful. 169 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's beneficial. I don't think it's 170 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: sharing light and love with this world. But should my 171 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: expectation be that just because I disagree that I shouldn't 172 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: allow others to like stuff? I mean it. All it 173 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: does for me is it allows me to see a 174 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: better judge of character, gives me a clearer picture of 175 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: the person, and allows me to say, Okay, I either 176 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: agree with this person or I don't, which I want 177 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: to live in a world where I can disagree with somebody. 178 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't want us all to be liking and agreeing 179 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: on the same things all the time. That's that's not 180 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: that's that takes away the individualism of life. And so 181 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: at any level when we look at social media, now, 182 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: are we all to be holding up an expectation that 183 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: everybody will be liking the same thing? I actually think 184 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: that's what Secca was trying to say, And I know 185 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: she's imagine in a tough position because she can't really 186 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: talk about how far any of these guys make it 187 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: on the season. Um, but I think that's what she 188 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: was trying to say, was that if this happened and 189 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm dating someone, I'm going to have a conversation about 190 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: this and we'll get to the bottom of it. And 191 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: people are entitled to their opinions, and that's what's being 192 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: in our country. It's about basically, to paraphrase what she said. 193 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: So I think she agrees with you there that it's 194 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: a conversation. I think the unfortunate thing is just you know, 195 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't known until now, so it just brings 196 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: up a whole new level of conversations. I guess what 197 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: a terrible way to start your bachelor's season. Um, Ashley, 198 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: why we have Jack in the phone here? I know 199 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: you and I were talking and learning from your mistakes 200 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: and learning from the things that you do that hurt 201 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: people as part of a life, and it's part of 202 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: us growing up and maturing and something we all do 203 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: want all want to do all the time. Actually, you 204 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: have a story that kind of relates back to this. 205 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: Do you mind sharing? Yeah? So I'm thinking, you know, 206 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: when you're scrolling on social media or whether you're in 207 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: the interview room during Bachelor in Paradise as I was 208 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: batch back in Bachelor in Paradise three, where I definitely 209 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: threw out some risque and I have to say probably 210 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: offensive things that I never meant to say with ill 211 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: will like it. It wasn't deep. It was just like, oh, 212 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: like that you say that will be funny. Oh yeah, 213 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: it's funny. I think it's funny, and then like you 214 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: say it, and then like this guy probably going through 215 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: social media's like oh ha ha, he never really meant it, 216 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: Like he doesn't. I don't think it demonstrates much of 217 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: his his deep character. You with that, Ben, Well, I 218 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: think it would help be helpful. You shared with me 219 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of an example of this earlier, so that, yeah, 220 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: there's a difference because there's one time, like on on 221 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: Bats in Paradise through, I definitely said offensive things and 222 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was funny in the moment. Realized afterwards 223 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: that was the most immature, um just like a completely 224 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: unacceptable thing to say, and I felt bad about it 225 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: seeing it back and I was like, oh that was bad. 226 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: How stupid was I? I did not mean anything bad 227 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: by it. However, I don't want. I do think that 228 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: there's like a little bit of a difference between Lee's 229 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: tweets during Rachel's season, which were just blatantly racist and 230 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: seemingly coming from a bad place, and him crafting them 231 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: himself to Garrett like like frivolously perhaps liking these these 232 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: memes or whatever. I agree with you there. I also 233 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: think it's you know, a lot of people we're saying, 234 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: how does the show not vet social media? I mean, 235 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: it's very It's really hard to find to see what 236 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: someone likes on Instagram. UM. It's definitely different than going 237 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: back and checking you know, Twitter feed, um, which shows 238 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: you just it's a different kind of activity. Something sorry, 239 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: something happened to me. Um. I liked to tweet quote 240 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: from Maya Angelou a year and a half ago, and 241 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: it was it was nuts the way people took that 242 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: that favorited tweet and then they started this huge political 243 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: discussion under like my photos on Instagram. It just it 244 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: was amazing the power of one favorited tweet and how 245 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: it could roll over onto all these different platforms. And 246 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: I thought, a quote from Maya Angelou, how are people 247 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: assuming my political affiliation or my beliefs based on this 248 00:13:52,920 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: one simple favorited quote of hers. Wow, yeah, we we live. 249 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: I mean, so, here's how I think we sum this up. 250 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: What was Garrett was doing? Um that he he's apologized 251 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: and he came out and he said, hey, I don't 252 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: exactly agree with the things that I was liking. And 253 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: so uh, if all we have the basis on is 254 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: his now words and his apology, then we're saying, Okay, 255 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: he didn't agree with the things he was liking. What 256 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: is our response? And I think our response here is 257 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: noticing And for anybody out there listening. A year ago, 258 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: if you would have told Garrett that his social media 259 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: would have been analyzed, um by millions of people, he 260 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: would have said, how and you're crazy. But today that 261 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: happens to him because he's entered into a world that 262 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: is under a microscope. And so it just shows us 263 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: the power of everything. We're liking, everything we're commenting on, 264 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: everything we're posting. Make sure that this stuff is filtered 265 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: through your lens and your belief system, because if if 266 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: Garrett is sitting here today saying this is an exactly 267 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: at all what I believe. I was just liking things 268 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: priviously and later and sitting on my couch, being lazy, 269 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: double tapping whatever scrolled through my my feet. If that's 270 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: the case, he still has to take responsibility for the 271 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: things he liked. However, we also have to understand that 272 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: the power of any of our thumbs nowadays has an impact. 273 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's what Garrett's noticed in the day. 274 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: So let this be a lesson for all of us. 275 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: Watch out what you say, but also filter through the 276 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: lens of what do I actually believe? Do I actually 277 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: believe in the things I'm liking? It's important to notice that, Jackie, 278 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: do you have anything to add As far as the 279 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: fan Bachelor Nation response goes who is his favorite stuff? Well, 280 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: I think I mean I would encourage everyone to read 281 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: his full statement if they haven't, just because that was 282 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: somewhat unexpected that a contestant who hasn't been eliminated would 283 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: speak out. So that shows you kind of the power 284 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: of the situation. And I think him addressing it really 285 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: helped to at least put a positive until everyone can 286 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: hear from him again. Be has like you're saying he 287 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: took responsibility for it. He's not saying he agrees with everything. 288 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: He is saying he wants to learn and grow from there. 289 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: So I do think he's taking the right step. And 290 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: then I think people should really just have to wait 291 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: and see when he's able to really address it further 292 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: and go into detail. Do you foresee the show making 293 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: any edits or adding in anything because of because of this? 294 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a really good question. I mean, I 295 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: imagine this will come up once you get to the 296 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: end where Chris Carrettson has an opportunity to edit something 297 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: in or into one of the reunion specials, you know, 298 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: the mente all or obviously the after the final rows, 299 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: if it makes it that far. But that is an 300 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: interesting question. They've done things like that before when they've 301 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: got so big that they had to address it. But 302 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: this just might be, you know, his statement might have 303 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: addressed it for now. I wonder, Jackie, if somebody sits 304 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: uh in the press and you're gonna be, you know, 305 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: interested in interviewing some of the contestants as they come 306 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: off the show. And I mean, from the looks at 307 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: things right now, it looks like Garrett's going to be 308 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: around awhile, so let's assume that, I mean, we don't know, 309 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: but just by him coming out with making a statement. 310 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: We understand that there's a power behind what just happened 311 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: that people you know that he is a main character 312 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: in the show. Will the press fall back on this 313 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: once he once he is eliminated, or if he is 314 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: with Becca, if there are a couple, will they ask 315 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: these questions post show? Let's get I will I would? Um, 316 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: I think that they would. I don't. I don't think 317 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: that just because there was a statement that there aren't 318 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: still questions just because now you've heard his side. But 319 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: how does this really affect isn't because relationship? And will 320 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: any of this play out on the show? I mean, 321 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: I know the show typically doesn't really air conversations about politics, 322 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: which maybe should be something that changes. But Becca does 323 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: seem like someone who would ask. I mean she she 324 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: has said she asked the right question. She felt like 325 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: she did so whether she got the answer she needed 326 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: off their or on air, you know, if they if 327 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: they don't play out for the season, then those are 328 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: definitely questions that will come up. I do have to 329 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: say that I would be disappointed if they did edit 330 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: the storyline to make Yarrett look more like a villain 331 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: or somebody we don't want to end up Becca to 332 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: end up with because of his favorite Instagram likes. You 333 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: know what I mean? I just think that would be sad, Like, 334 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: don't ruin a storyline or like a love story because 335 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, she's been through enough right Yeah? Yeah, 336 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: what a way to start America's Sweetest and most loved 337 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: Bachelor and turning this season. Um, just start out with 338 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: the controverts like this. Hey, but that's part of being 339 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: the bachelor bachelor, you know, we talked about all the 340 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: time on this podcast. Now it's you know, the it's 341 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: how she reacts and in the judgment, and what makes 342 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: a great bachelorette or bachelor is how do they react 343 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: to really tough situations. And so it sounds like so 344 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: far Becca has reacted publicly very well. Um. And we'll 345 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: let the same kind of settle and see where it 346 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: plays out either on the show or post show, um, 347 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: during the press. But we know this will be a storyline. Um. 348 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: If anything, Jackie from the Hollywood Reporter is going to 349 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: be quizzing Garrett and Becca at some point in this 350 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: in the future and what exactly, uh he intended to 351 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: do by liking these things on social media? Jackie, thank 352 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: you for coming on the podcast. Yeah, I know you're welcome. 353 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: And I did get a chance to speak to Becca actually, 354 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: so have a little bit more from her on the situation. 355 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: But Um, Garrett will definitely have to remain to be 356 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: seen as the season goes well. We'll look forward to 357 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: hearing from him. Yeah, and thanks guys, Um Greace to 358 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: talk to you again. I brought your on the podcast 359 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: next time for something really great. But any more controversy 360 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: in this franchise and we might not have podcast. So 361 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: next time we talk, let's do something positive, okay, Gil, 362 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: That sounds good to me. It sounds good, right. Um. 363 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: You know when I was a kid, Ashley, when I 364 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: would say something wrong or swear or do something inappropriate, 365 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: my mouth would get washed out? Was so your head? 366 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: That happened to you know? But I'm so interested to 367 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: see how that was. 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No, I mean 378 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: like he cleans thoroughly, but he's he's hurting his gums. 379 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's even worse. That's that's a that's a traumatic 380 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: impact that could last a lifetime. That you get him 381 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: some quip. Actually, most brands are focused on selling flashy 382 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: gimmicks rather than actually better brushing techniques, but not Quip. 383 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: So what makes quip so different? It sounds like Jared 384 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: could learn from this. 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A lot of them 429 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: aren't very kind towards Garrett. This first one here I'm 430 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: not gonna read the whole thing, but the first one 431 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: here says I'm bummed Garrett is such a douchehert. What's 432 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: a douche? Come on? You know? Oh yeah I thought that. Yeah, 433 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: I thought I was thinking the product, not the name. Okay, 434 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: that's not a good thing, by the way, Okay, we 435 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: get it. This isn't good. This is not a good look. 436 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing here actually, and if we 437 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: just get honest, because I think Garrett makes it really far. 438 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: I think so too. He's such a front runner. Yeah, 439 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: he's the first impression Rose guy. If he if he 440 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: wasn't he kind of be like the Lee thing where 441 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: Lee made a huge splash with his comments on Twitter 442 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: and and they were wrong and they were terrible, but 443 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: it faded and it didn't become a main storyline post 444 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: show because he was gone way before the show ended. 445 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: I think this will be a lingering Okay, in all truth, 446 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: I think this will be a storyline even if the 447 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: show doesn't show it outside of the show or hanging 448 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: over the show for the rest of the season. I 449 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: think so too. And Garrett is the kind of guy 450 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: that if he doesn't end up with Becca in the end, 451 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: he's definitely Bachelor in Paradise material, like, this is the 452 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of guy that that would hang around the franchise 453 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: for a while. I agree, And so I don't know, 454 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: in your opinion, if you were a publicist, how do 455 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: you do damage control? Right now? I think of what 456 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: you do is the apology that he already did, and 457 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: then you kind of hope it fades away. Well there's 458 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: anything else you can do. You know, there's there's a 459 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: couple of comments we have that we're sending also on 460 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: his apology. Jessica says, that's some decent accountability. Good on him. 461 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: Michelle says, well said he's definitely my favorite. So then 462 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: to change her opinion, Katie says, even though they're just likes, 463 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: I personally think that you like. Social media shows a 464 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: lot about you. This isn't even a political issue like 465 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: many are trying like many are trying to make it. 466 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm more liberal, my boyfriend is conservative. I totally get 467 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: in respect that people are to have different views. That's 468 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: what we're talking about earlier. We don't all want to 469 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: agree and believe on the same thing. That doesn't make 470 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: life fun. However, these memes took things to a totally 471 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: different level. I would agree with that. I think we 472 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: all agree agree with that they were hateful, disgusting, and cruel. 473 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: No matter what we believe, we can still have respect 474 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: for others. I really appreciate that Geary apologize. I am 475 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: all four second chances, and I hope the situation will 476 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: educate him and help him become a more open minded person. 477 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: I think that's perfect. I think what I think, what 478 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: Katie said was everything that we think. I I completely agree. 479 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: I think there's there's a level here. Some of these 480 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: these things that he was he was liking, were like, Okay, 481 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: those are just political opinions. There's other things that we 482 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: all have to agree with, right, But some of these 483 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: go away beyond that. They go they are dark, and 484 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: they're they're hurtful, and they target certain people in certain 485 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: groups of people. Those things should never be liked. And 486 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: that's where I think his apologies coming from. That's why 487 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: I want to hear him apologize for or just talk about. 488 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to something I talked about a 489 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: lot in this podcast. The only thing about his apology 490 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: that I don't like, and this is this is such 491 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: a personal um pet peeve of mine. I was thinking 492 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: the other day, Actually, i've by one of my best friends, 493 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 1: just took a couple of weeks off of work and 494 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: and with that, I didn't talk to him for a 495 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: few weeks. I just want to give him in space. 496 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: And I'm feeling little bit not friendless. I have a 497 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: lot of friends, but I'm missing my friend right now. 498 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: And so it's allowed me to do a lot of 499 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: self reflection on how do I treat my friends, how 500 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: do I treat people around me? And I notice at 501 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: times in my life, and we've talked about this, you know, 502 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: I do get irritable and I do get annoyed, not 503 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: because I don't like a person, just because my reaction 504 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: to things typically isn't good. One of the things that 505 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: annoys me to most about people, and I might need 506 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: to get over this, and I need you to tell 507 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: me if I do, is when they give themselves compliments 508 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: I've talked about in this podcast. Yeah, and I've read 509 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Garrett's apology and it says things I'm not I don't 510 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: have it in front of me exactly, but I remember 511 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: saying things like I'm a happy person. I like to 512 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: make light of the situation. I'm a good person. Those 513 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: things are all great, but I could go without hearing 514 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: it because I don't want to hear you call yourself 515 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: a happy person. I don't want to hear yourself. I 516 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: don't want to hear you call yourself a person that 517 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: likes to make light a situation. I mean, what else 518 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? You're gonna right in there. You know, 519 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm a pretty dark person. I really like to make 520 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: other people feel terrible about themselves. I really like to 521 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: make any fun situation as little amount of fun as possible. 522 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: And you know what, everybody thinks they're a good person. Everybody, 523 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: you know people think they're good people for the craziest reason. 524 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: So I think, if if this is a little bit 525 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: of a segment for me to express myself. I read 526 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: his apology and I think it's sincere, and I think 527 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: he did take accountability. Those are the two things that 528 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: I was looking for. But I I gotta be honest. 529 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: I did get annoyed with the self commentary. I don't 530 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: like that. I think it's am I am I crazy 531 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: for this? No, I don't think so. I just um, 532 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to describe yourself in an apology. 533 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't elaborate on it, but you're right. 534 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean, does it annoy anybody else out there? I 535 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: want you if it does, please email us at Ben 536 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: and Ashley at i heeart media dot com. I mean, honestly, 537 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: I need to hear from you because I either need 538 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: to be um hold myself accountable and be convicted of 539 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: this and change and try to work through this, or 540 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: I need somebody to tell me, Ben, you're not completely wrong, 541 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: or maybe you're completely right. And when people self describe themselves, 542 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: it's really really annoying, so interesting that this is such 543 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: a pet peep of yours. It's just I haven't thought 544 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: of it much, so I wish I had a better answer. 545 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: But you're right. I don't go around saying like I'm 546 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: a good person. Yeah, I would never. I don't think 547 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: I would say that. Yeah. You hear it all the time. 548 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: You hear on the show a lot. You saw it 549 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: on this week's episode. This is where it kind of 550 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: comes from, too. I want to tie it into this 551 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: week's episode a little bit. You heard it a lot 552 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: where people self describe themselves. They sit down with Rebecca 553 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: and they get five minutes and the very first thing 554 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: they say is, you know, I'm just a very I'm 555 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: just a very open person. Yeah, or hey, you know, 556 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm one of those people that really 557 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: like to to laugh. It's like, well, of course you 558 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: like to laugh, Like are you human? Oh my god, 559 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: don't Now that's a pet peeve of mine When people 560 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: say I like to have a good time, I'm like, 561 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: what do you who does not like to have a 562 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: good time? To me? When you say that, that means 563 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: like you like the party, that's like code for I 564 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: drink a bit, or like it just doesn't like I 565 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: don't know, Ash, It's just I need to work through this. 566 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: I need to work through with you and our listeners. 567 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I need to figure out how to either get over this, 568 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: to let it stop bothering me so much, or to 569 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: just continue to fight the good fight against people self 570 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: promoting and self describing themselves. I don't get it, and 571 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. Maybe make your actions speak 572 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: for your you know, speak before your words. Can you 573 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: see my face right now? No? I can't. Oh, It's 574 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: like I might have such a face of ponder right 575 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: now because it's something I never think about but when 576 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: you when you're saying this like I'm an open person, 577 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm this, I'm not like that is pretty weird to 578 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: say about yourself, especially to someone that you're still meeting. 579 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: If you're like talking to your friends, you're talking about 580 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: like your qualities your friends, I think it's a little 581 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: bit different. But if you're introducing yourself like that, it's weird. 582 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: It's very odd. Um. Anyways, right, it's your opinions. Let's 583 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: talk about it next week. Let's break down some emails 584 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: on people self describing themselves in a positive and not 585 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: even a native light. Just don't let people form their 586 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: own opinions. You don't need to tell them that you 587 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: you're you're somebody really likes to have a good time. Hey, 588 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: somebody really of the laft Like I'm a really yeah, 589 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: really genuine person, Like you know, I just I don't 590 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: like controversy. I don't like drama. Come on, you like 591 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: drama a little bit. We all do. That's we have 592 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: a podcast and you're listening to it right now. Hey, Ashley, 593 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: I speaking of drama. We we got a confront situation. 594 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: They do. Last week, I got the opportunity to spend 595 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: um five days at the Indianapolis You were there for 596 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: a long time. I was there for a long time. 597 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: I was there with andretti Otto, sports relay rewards and 598 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Five itself. It's it's a huge event and 599 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into the details. Has a 600 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: ton of tradition. It means a lot to me. My 601 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: grandfather was a big fan at the race, and so 602 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: obviously with him passing, this is a big deal for 603 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: us to go to at the race though. This is 604 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: the thing that ties back here. I was able to 605 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: spend an evening in an afternoon with Ari and Lauren, 606 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: and I will tell you one thing. I really want 607 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: to see him make it really bad. I really do. 608 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: I I just here's the thing. I can tell that this, 609 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: this whole thing is weighing on them, which obviously it 610 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: would there they I think, and they didn't say this. 611 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: I think they feel hated on and which which isn't 612 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: like oh crazy, like no, of course, And I know, yeah, 613 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: they've taken some heat, and I think it's weighing on them. 614 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: They seem really happy, they seem super supportive of each 615 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: other when they you know, when they looked at each other, 616 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: they're looking at each other like you and Jared do. 617 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: It's just that kind of like there's nobody else in 618 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: the room and all I want to do is hear 619 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: you talk, or hear your voice, or put my lips 620 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: around your lips. Um. But I can tell that this 621 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: whole thing made me. They brought them together, so let's 622 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: give the show that benefit. But I can tell that 623 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: this is weighing on them a little bit. And I 624 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: just want to say this now. They were nothing but 625 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: incredible to me. Um, we had a really good time. Um. 626 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: I got to talk to Lauren for a while. She 627 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: is a sweetheart, and um, just very engaged in conversation. 628 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: Was not too good to talk to me, you know, 629 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: it was not kind of when I when I was 630 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: talking and when she was talking, she was completely engaged 631 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: in the conversation. And UM, I don't know. I'm just 632 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a big fan of them, and I think 633 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: they've been through enough now, So can we ask all 634 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: of our listeners, I mean, do you support this actually 635 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: just to now get in the R and Laurent train. Totally. Yes. 636 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: It is sad to see how disinterested bat So Nation 637 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: is in them when I really do think that they're 638 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: going to be married forever. I do. I think that 639 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: they're meant to be. Yeah, And you know Ari's family 640 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: was there with them, and and so I got to 641 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: see that dynamic and see that you know, this is 642 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: a what people forget and what we forget sometimes is 643 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: that this really does affect real life relationships. 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We start to see all of the 700 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: Bachelor and Bachelott's little um tendencies. Let's call him that 701 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: my tendency. I licked my lips a lot, and I 702 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: I did, and I said, amazing, You're amazing. We're seeing 703 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: Becca as little tendency. She says, I don't want to lie. 704 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not 705 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. But I like you. 706 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. But this is fun. I'm not 707 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: gonna lie. But you need to go home. It's it's it, 708 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy? Actually that when you put yourself on television, 709 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: you do start to see the tendencies and your nervous ticks. 710 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: Mine was looking at my lips. I licked my lips 711 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: all the time. My thing I on the podcast is 712 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: saying the thing is what's mine mine? I'm gonna say, um, 713 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: let's be honest. Yeah, you said, let's be honest. Let's 714 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: be honest. Let's be honest. Here's here's the deal. I 715 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: like talking to Ash. So Becca's is I'm not gonna lie. 716 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: Watch for it. Maybe you know, have a drink or 717 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: do a push up every time. I'm not gonna lie, 718 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: is said, all right. Moving into this week's episode, Uh, 719 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna grade Becca a to f on how she's doing. 720 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: So as far as the Bachelor at Ashley, be critical, 721 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: be tough. What would you give her? Um? I give 722 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: her a b because everything's just like I don't know, 723 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: it's I think it's like sweet, but there's no spice. 724 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some spice. N you know, 725 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: I would give her a beat as well. I would 726 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: disagree with you on the spice. You know why Why 727 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: Because I saw her make out with Blake and it 728 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: was intense. I liked her. I liked her make out 729 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: with Was it Jean Blanc? That was a good kiss. 730 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: When you just hear the name Jehan blonde, is just 731 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: sound like a guy or a girl or whatever a 732 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: name that you want to make out with Jean Blanc? Ye? 733 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: Just does you just want to wrap your lips all around? 734 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: And he smells good to remember he's cologne man. Yeah, 735 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: that's impressive. We didn't we didn't highlight that enough. I'm 736 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: I'm in favor of somebody that takes pride in their sin. 737 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: Becca needs a man who smells good. That was such 738 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,479 Speaker 1: an adit, Ashley. What's your what's your what's your scent? 739 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: What is my scent? Yeah? What is my favorite just 740 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: on a normal day. Right, Okay, let's do two different things. 741 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: We all have this, um and anybody listening out there 742 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: join this little game, right us, right now, UM, let's 743 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: go to if you're going on a date night with Jared, 744 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: what do you wear? Um? I think it's I'll just 745 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: tell you what my favorite sone is because I don't 746 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: remember the actual I think it's called summer Night or sumhere. 747 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called. But I love anything 748 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: that's like summary or smells beachy. So one of my 749 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: favorites is Bobby Brown. I think it's called beach So 750 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: it smells like coconut, sundann lotion sand all. That is 751 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: what will make me feel all the fields Bobby Brown 752 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: is in like the singer No Bobby Brown, the makeup line, 753 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 1: no clue. Okay, Actually, if you're coming into my Heart 754 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: Studios to do the podcast, what do you smell like? Nothing? Nothing? No, 755 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't put perfume on unless it's like a night out. Okay, 756 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,959 Speaker 1: what do you do? Uh? No, you know I've gotten 757 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: this thing. I wear secret deodorant. It's a big deal 758 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: for me, it's a big deal for you. Yeah, I 759 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: switched over back in the day when I was reading 760 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: all this stuff about how deodorans are bad for you 761 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: and one of the only good ones is secret. So 762 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: I just I prop a little secret on. Um. If 763 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: I'm going out to eat, you know, going to a 764 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: fancy restaurants, a little bagaria. I think it's called it's 765 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: not spelled like that. I have no clue how you 766 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: spell it. The names all weird. Um, I get it 767 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: north some Rack, A big fan of the Rack. Um, 768 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 1: so I go to Norther some Rack buy my cologne. 769 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: I like the smell good. Um. But of course a 770 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: guy with the name of Ron Blanc would smell good also. Um. Okay, 771 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: So she has a steamy makeout session with Blake. It's intense. 772 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we can all say that was 773 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: that was something where it didn't a matter off cameras 774 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: around or not. They were going to go at it. 775 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: Oh wait, that was really hot when she was like, okay, 776 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: before you leave, and then she got him against the wall. Yeah. 777 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: So that brings up the question and some of our 778 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: our listeners have written and already about it. Is it 779 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: appropriate for the woman to make that move? How's yeah? 780 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: Well yes, I think so. Wow. That's steamy. That was hot. Yeah, 781 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: it's so hot when the girl doesn't because it takes 782 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more guts and courage for the girl 783 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: to do it, so that means she really wants it. Now. 784 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: It's a little bit out of character, right Rebecca, do 785 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 1: you think I would say so? Yeah, she's a little 786 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: more timid. Hm. But Blake do you think Blake should 787 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: have made that move or just was he was he 788 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 1: going to I mean they were walking out pretty confidently, 789 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: looked like off in to the sunset. Was he going 790 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: to push her up against the wall? And probably not 791 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: against the wall, but he probably would have kissed her. 792 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: They have been kissing all day long, you know that, right, Yeah, 793 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure they have. That was a special special moment 794 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: that was That was intense and she had the heart, 795 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: she had she had the hand around the head, he 796 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: had their hand around the head. There was like this 797 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, what do you call It's like the worm 798 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: standing up. You know you're like kind of just like 799 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: both like groovy as you make out. You're right, that 800 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: was a spicy scene, spicy scene. So going off of 801 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: the makeout, I think Beck is doing great. She's fine. 802 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: I'm big back up. You know that. I know that, 803 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: I know that, But it seems like this episode and 804 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 1: no judgment good for her, But we have to point 805 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: out because we do it every season. Becca had her 806 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: way with a few. You know, she made up with 807 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people this week she did there. Yeah, yeah, 808 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: I bet you. We didn't even see a lot of 809 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: the kisses. Yeah, you know, it's hard. I think as 810 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: the bachelor, Bachelor, how do you turn that down? Because 811 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: you're not against it, you know, but it's weird to 812 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: be making out with people all night every night, like, 813 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: person after person after person. It does It does wear 814 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: on you a bit. You know, which makeout scene I 815 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: did not expect to see? Um, I don't know what 816 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: you didn't expect to see, but I know which one 817 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 1: didn't look as great to me. Clay, Oh my god, 818 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: I didn't expect that at all. I did. I did 819 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: the hands over the face thing. Ash, How did they 820 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: even evolved to being able to kiss each other? Like? 821 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: They didn't seem to have anything romantic. It was such 822 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: an awkward scene where he like did this little dance 823 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: and then they it was just too much and I 824 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: did that. You know, we've talked about it, like where 825 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: I have to turn my head and cover my eyes 826 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: because it just makes me feel all sorts of weird. 827 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: That one was very awkward, but she seemed to be 828 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: totally expecting it, like she didn't think it was weird, 829 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: but just the audience did. Yeah, maybe if you watch 830 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: everything anytime you, you know, watch something from a distance, 831 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: it's weird. Who who did you not expect? I didn't. 832 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: I expected her to kiss Lincoln, but I thought it 833 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: would be a better kiss. How was it bad? It 834 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: was just it seemed just like a very piece, if 835 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 1: that makes sense. It wasn't like a fluid motion. Yeah, 836 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: you know. Okay, so this this is a good segue 837 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: for us. We're gonna have Sarah Heron on here in 838 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: a little bit and we're gonna talk. We're gonna dig 839 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: into a couple of these Bachelor topics from this week's episode, 840 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: but one that we can't skip over is the Lincoln 841 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: verse Connor uh controversy or fight? Is it? Is it 842 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,760 Speaker 1: wrong of me actually to feel like Connor was definitely 843 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: too aggressive, but I was, I was feeling him. I 844 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: was annoyed. I can't figure out Lincoln yet, so I 845 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: almost don't even want to talk about him. Yet my 846 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: opinions on Lincoln like is he a good guy or 847 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: a bad guy? It is yet to be determined. It 848 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: could really swing either way. But Connor, I know it's ridiculous. 849 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: Come on. The way he reacted was as if he 850 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: were a bully on the playground. I get it, but 851 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: but I was annoyed also, So maybe that's where I 852 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: was like, I get it, Connor, but odd for you 853 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 1: to throw it out, and just odd for for you 854 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 1: to let it bother you so much. You he got 855 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: Lincoln got under his skin. He was so aggressive about it. 856 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, what kind of anger do you have in 857 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: your soul from me to react about this man who 858 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: is being foolish in the first place. The dude is 859 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 1: kissing and talking to a picture, so you should probably 860 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: be making fun of him and not be so angry 861 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: so weird. I hope people would make fun of me 862 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: if I was talking to a picture, because I hope 863 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 1: everybody behind my back would be like that Ben dude 864 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: is odd, Like he is a weird, a weird cat. Okay, 865 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: So if we break this down, are you team Lincoln 866 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: or tin Connor? Well, I would like to say that 867 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,479 Speaker 1: I'm not either. I'm not really a fan of either. Okay, fine, 868 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: in this battle, I would pick Lincoln, you pick Connor. Wow. 869 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: I know maybe it said something about me and my character. 870 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: I told you I react terribly the situation sometimes. But 871 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I thought Lincoln overreacted. Do you agree 872 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: with that? I mean, he was crying. It was weird. 873 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: It was weird, right, I mean, I don't know his backstory, 874 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: and I know that he really was excited about showing 875 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: his mom this picture. You could trust me. I'm close 876 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: with my mom. Thinks she's a great lady. Loved to 877 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: show off cool things to her, love to show off 878 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,919 Speaker 1: pictures of me, paintings I've done. You know, it's ever 879 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: since elementary school. I've always been a big fan of 880 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: showing my mom arts and crafts that i've that I've accomplished. 881 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: It's a little bit odd to me that he was 882 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: so emotional. Maybe he's a really emotional guy, but it 883 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: was weird. And I when he did say we want 884 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: to show my mom, that was the only line that 885 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: made me go, oh, that's sad. No, it did that 886 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: made me go, oh, okay, maybe I get it now. 887 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: So here, this digs in a little bit and you're 888 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: the expert, you know, because you're in a relationship and 889 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: all in love and stuff. Now, is it attractive cry? No? No, 890 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: not when a man cries, because there's a thousand reasons 891 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: why man cry cry. I like cris I like crying. Okay, 892 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: So when Lincoln goes, I want to show my mom. Yeah, 893 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: in whatever context he was, he was crying and he 894 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: said it, and you go home. That's sweet. Is that 895 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: an attractive sweet? Or is it? Is it a turn off? 896 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: And I and more like, oh, that's just sweet? Like good, 897 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: that's that's tough. I want to console him because he's 898 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: hurt seeing it on TV, I go off. But if 899 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,399 Speaker 1: Jerry were to do that, like if he cried over 900 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: a destroyed picture of us because he wanted to show 901 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: his mom, I'd be like Jared Kono, Yeah, like you 902 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: would give him some tough love and be like, Dared, 903 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 1: come on your I know this is an ideal. We'll 904 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: put the picture again, Yeah we can. Well, hey, let's 905 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: remake this picture. It's out there in the stratosphere. Well 906 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: we'll redo this, right, like tough love because about him? 907 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: You love him? Yeah, yeah, I think that too. It 908 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: just it seems like Lincoln did a little tough love there. 909 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: I have a feeling I'd have no clue if I'm 910 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: right or wrong, that this isn't the last controversy Lincoln's 911 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: involved in. I agree. I think it's going to be 912 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: maybe something each week that it gets overly sensitive about. Yeah, 913 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, we all have to work on it. I'm 914 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: a sensitive guy. I get I get hurt. Yeah, obviously 915 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: I can't speak either, but but I would say this 916 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: one was weird. It was a little odd to me, 917 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: a little much um and I'll leave it that, okay. 918 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: Moving on, breaking down the Dodgeball date Astley, I would 919 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: say this, maybe I'm crazy here. This was one of 920 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: the best dates ever done by the Bachelor. Wait, that 921 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: is so funny because I thought it was a snooze fast. 922 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 1: I was on my phone the entire time. No way, Yeah, 923 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like so good. Yeah, I don't 924 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: need to see you guys competing in sport doesn't say 925 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: anything to me. I don't learn anything, except for I 926 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: did learn that Leo is like kind of self aware 927 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: and he was playing along and it was funny. Yeah, 928 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: that was funny. He was good. He's an athlete too. 929 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: He played for US Baseball. Hurt Oh, okay, well that 930 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: makes sense. But you know, I was totally bored during 931 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: this part of the day. I don't know. It's just 932 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,439 Speaker 1: something that, like I think would be so much fun 933 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: if you were there and playing, but not super visually 934 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: compelling for the audience. Weird. I thought it was one 935 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,280 Speaker 1: of the best dates. I thought this episode was incredible. 936 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: I thought the date just crushing things, even if it wasn't, 937 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 1: you know ri or not, I thought that was amazing. 938 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: The slow Moe video of it was just really well done. 939 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: In the Dodgeball day, having Chris Harrison up there commentating 940 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: it was just threw me back from my favorite movies 941 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: of all time, obviously Dodgeball. Um. It should be mentioned 942 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 1: that I was at that date, at the demolition date 943 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: where they crushed all of ori stuff, and it was 944 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: cool because I got to interview Little John for a 945 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: couple of minutes and The Bachelor has apparently been trying 946 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: to get him on the show for years and they 947 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: could never come up with the right timing or creative 948 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: and then fine, only they worked this out and Little 949 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: John was like, yeah, yeah, that's amazing. No, I thought 950 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: that was. It really was such a fun day. And 951 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm always impressed year, every year, every year, And we 952 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: have to give the show credit for this, that this 953 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: date team continues to come up with new and interesting, 954 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: engaging concepts. And I know for them repeating dates, we 955 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: don't need new fresh dates every season every year. I 956 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: don't mind them pulling back old dates in the past. 957 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: I think that's a fine thing, but it is impressive 958 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: that they continue to come up with new ideas. These 959 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: people almost married their great daters. Um, all right, we're 960 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: gonna dig in now, right before we bring Sarah on 961 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,760 Speaker 1: to the biggest controversy within this podcast or within this episode, 962 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: one that we have a lot to talk about, one 963 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: that's not going to be leaving anytime soon, I don't think, 964 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: because we see it in the previews from the season. 965 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: Colton drops a bomb on bastelor Nation. He drops a 966 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 1: bomb on Becca by saying that he dated per weekend 967 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: Tia a weekend for a weekend. He said it, we 968 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: had a weekend together. Oh I missed that line. Yeah, 969 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 1: he had. They had a weekend together. So they're obviously talking. 970 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: I think the back stort of this is they were 971 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: talking they're chatting their messaging, which happens all the time 972 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation, especially amongst contestants. And then at some 973 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: point they met up. They met up in person four 974 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: a weekend together and it didn't go well and he 975 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 1: decided to still go on the show to pursue Becca 976 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: because his relationship with Tia was not bostooning. To start 977 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: this out, Ashley, is this weird for you? Do you 978 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: have a problem with it? If you put yourself in 979 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: the situation in Becca's shoes, how do you respond? There's 980 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: so many questions to be asked here. Um, Why did 981 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 1: he reach out to Tea in the first one? Did 982 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: he reach out to Tia? What was the extent of 983 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: their relationship? How long did they talk for? Um? How long? Um? 984 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 1: Did he reach out to Tia because she thought he 985 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 1: thought that she would be the bachelorette? And why did 986 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 1: things not work out with Tia? Is it because he 987 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,280 Speaker 1: got the far an a call to be on the show, 988 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: or is it and he wanted to go on the 989 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: show or did he really just not feel her? And 990 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 1: it will be so so interesting if Colton isn't the 991 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: final standing guy and he's on Paradise and I think 992 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: we can basically say we can confirm that I think 993 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 1: Tia is on paradise. Yeah, I mean that would be insane, 994 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: you can. You mean, what better storyline to follow into 995 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: paradise is will Tia and Colton revive the romance that 996 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,399 Speaker 1: once was? But there's so many unanswered questions here. I 997 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 1: like Colton a lot um, but in the way that 998 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: I am maybe disillusioned by his appearance and charm. And 999 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: I feel like if this were a random guy, if 1000 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: this were a guy named Jason or Ryan, who you 1001 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 1: guys probably don't even know who they are right now, 1002 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: would she say she would probably be like, oh, you 1003 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: did my friend and then you came on the show 1004 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: to date me goodbye. But Colton, he gets the past 1005 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,439 Speaker 1: because of his looks and charms. Just my opinion, he's 1006 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,399 Speaker 1: that good looking. I don't know, I don't know. Don't 1007 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 1: you think that he's like the best looking guy there? Yeah, 1008 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's the bachelors, so they're they're all 1009 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: really good looking. Yeah. I think he stands out right, 1010 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: He's he's tall, presence, he's a presence. I definitely think 1011 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: Colton stands out amongst the crowd when it comes to 1012 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: just his overall presence and his aura, which begs the question. 1013 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I think if on the first night, if 1014 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,919 Speaker 1: we would have watched this, just like anybody, we would 1015 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 1: assume Colton's gonna be around a while, and if he wasn't, um, 1016 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: we'd be confused, kind of like we were confused honestly 1017 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: with the with the grocery guy from Chicago. We thought 1018 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: that guy is a presence, super good looking, gonna be 1019 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,720 Speaker 1: around a while, but then he went home. So I actually, 1020 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: at this point I have no idea what beck is 1021 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: gonna do with Colton, but I would say that this 1022 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: would feel weird to me. It's it's definitely. I can't 1023 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: say that I wouldn't react the way she did. She 1024 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: she and are totally responded, would respond the exact same 1025 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,280 Speaker 1: way she her face went dark, if lost her smile 1026 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 1: in her lighte for like the first time in the episode, 1027 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: and because you could tell how interested she was in Colton. 1028 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: And this is a blow too, like their potential relationship. 1029 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: So so Ashley, let's dig in deep little, let's go 1030 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,879 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I wish we had a theme music 1031 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: for when we want to go behind the scenes. If 1032 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: we laid down the timeline. Do we really think that 1033 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 1: Beckett didn't know that Colton and Tia had a thing? 1034 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: She was announcing the bachelorret she was still in the 1035 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,959 Speaker 1: public eye, she was able to communicate with her friends 1036 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: for a while. Colton probably was, you know, aware that 1037 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: he was going to be on the show, do you 1038 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know this, but do you really 1039 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: think that she didn't know that Tia and this guy 1040 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: had a thing when she went on to be the bachelorette? Yeah, 1041 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't think she knew. Wow, I think that he 1042 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 1: must not have told Tia that he got the final call. 1043 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Maybe I don't know. I just I 1044 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 1: was thinking, like, hey, I know how this plays out. 1045 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: Your closest friends probably know you're on the show. Maybe not. 1046 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't tell anybody. I'm interested to see how 1047 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 1: this plays out. Here's one thing I think should happen, 1048 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 1: because we haven't seen any other episodes. I hope Tia 1049 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 1: handles this responsibly, Like I hope she doesn't make this 1050 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: a thing, because it doesn't sound like it needs to 1051 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: be a thing with Tea anymore. It sounds like it 1052 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: needs to be a thing with Becca and Colton. Yeah, 1053 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 1: totally so. So it's interesting with Tia being so close 1054 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: to back up Um being associated in the show. I'm 1055 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: assuming Um, in Paradise or something, you know, Colton and 1056 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: Tea will have a conversation. It just sounds like a 1057 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 1: breakup between Colton and Tia, and now it's between Colton 1058 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: and Becca. To see where it plays out. I just 1059 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: hope Tia doesn't make this anything more than it. I 1060 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: don't think she will. 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We have one 1116 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: of the special guests that always comes on this podcast 1117 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: that we support and love dearly, that is doing amazing 1118 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: things in this world for so many people. We're excited 1119 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 1: to hear about it. Sarah here and are you out there? 1120 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm here? Thank you, Sarah, Oh my goes Hi. Guys, 1121 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: how are you great? How are you? I mean you 1122 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 1: guys are better than great? Actuley, You're definitely better than 1123 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: great right now? Thank you? That is true. My life 1124 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: is hit a pinnacle and I keep I keep being 1125 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: worried because could it would be better? Probably not. It's 1126 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: downhill from here, no girl, I mean, this is what 1127 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 1: everyone's been waiting for and so happy to see happened 1128 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: for you finally, so long she just wait waited and 1129 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: waited and waited and made us. Is it ever going 1130 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 1: to happen? Ever? Gonna find love? Is actually gonna marry 1131 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: somebody else? You know? Alone forever? Just absolutely selfish hump 1132 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 1: with their parts um Sarah, thanks for coming on the podcast. 1133 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: We have a lot to talk to you about today. 1134 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: One thing I want to start out with saying is 1135 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: we want to break down um this week's episode and 1136 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: kind of Becca as a Bachelor at before we do, 1137 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: I got a great email I actually just text you 1138 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: this morning, UM, from somebody who was a friend of mine, 1139 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: A great person, awesome person. She is writing an article. 1140 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: She is a writer for a couple of magazines on 1141 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: a few people. So I guess she's trying to find 1142 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: the only people that have participated in Bachelor Nation who 1143 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: have then gone on to start their own nonprofits. And 1144 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: you're one of those people. And so let's start this 1145 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: podcast out in your segment by talking a little bit 1146 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: more about what you're doing with the Shelift program. Yeah, UM, 1147 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, thank you for thinking of me for that, UM. 1148 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 1: She list has definitely been a labor of love. UM. 1149 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: For the past two years, I decided to start an 1150 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 1: organization that helps girls with physical differences discover confidence and 1151 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: self esteem throughoutdoor recreation because ever since I appeared on 1152 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, UM, I just I felt compelled to help 1153 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: girls that were in similar situations to me, as me 1154 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: that we're struggling with self esteem and and that can 1155 00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 1: range from everything from like physical activities to dating and 1156 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: just body image issues. And I really wanted to find 1157 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: a way to connect girls who are going through the 1158 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: same struggles with one another and to build that community. 1159 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: So it's been two years and it's been totally rewarding 1160 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: but so so hard and challenging. But it's like it's 1161 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: my life work and I'm obsessed with it. Now. Is 1162 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: this your full time job? It is my full time job, 1163 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: but I mean, um, doing nonprofits, there's obviously you know, 1164 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: it's it's tosten. We don't make a lot of money, 1165 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 1: and so it's like definitely my focus. But you know, 1166 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: I am a graphic designer and I'm a freelance art 1167 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: director first and foremost. That was my job like way 1168 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: before I ever went on The Bachelor. So um, yeah, 1169 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like a content maker and creator 1170 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: as far as my income goes. I guess you could say, 1171 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 1: but she Lift is my my side project, my passion project, 1172 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: and we got you go at us and you just 1173 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: started a podcast. I did, so I started to Steal 1174 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 1: Lift podcast, which is an extension of the organization um, 1175 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: but it's a little bit broader. So every week we're 1176 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 1: interviewing women who are using their platforms and projects or 1177 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 1: even just talent to inspire good and change in the world. 1178 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,439 Speaker 1: So UM, I have guests lined up, you know, who 1179 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 1: might have a celebrity following or in a huge UM 1180 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: impact all the way to just your everyday woman who's 1181 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: trying to do something to make an impact and a 1182 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,920 Speaker 1: change for society. So we're talking about a lot of 1183 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: creative projects, a lot of um just social impact projects 1184 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: and campaigns. And I'm obsessed with podcasting. I'm having so 1185 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: much fun. It's been a trip that's awesome. Do you 1186 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: ever talk about The Bachelor? Because we're gonna make you yeah, 1187 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, like like I'm not one of 1188 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 1: those people who went on The Bachelor and then stopped 1189 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: watching it, Like I still love the frand size, and 1190 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 1: I love of talking about it. So you know, it's 1191 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 1: it's definitely sprinkled in there. Did you watch the Sueks episode? 1192 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: Of course? Of course, And I will remember, I will 1193 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: have you know. I'm camping right now. I'm in the 1194 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Grand Canyon, and I still was like, we have to 1195 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: stop in this town where I can have WiFi to 1196 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 1: watch this right now, so I make it work wherever 1197 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: I am. That's amazing. You are always on an adventure 1198 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: and you're always with your new love, but it's not 1199 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,680 Speaker 1: new love anymore. It's a year long love. And I 1200 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: think I think you're soul mate in your forever person. Huh. Yeah. 1201 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: We definitely lead a really crazy lifestyle, and I mean 1202 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 1: it's exhausting, um traveling. I'm not going to complain about it. 1203 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I love it, but it's um. I mean, I'm sitting 1204 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: in this web blocks right now of like a hundred 1205 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,439 Speaker 1: and four degrees in the middle of Arizona. It's insane. UM. 1206 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm so in love and happy to be 1207 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing and I couldn't ask for anything better. 1208 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: If you were back up and your boyfriend wasn't in 1209 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 1: the picture, which of these guys would have made you 1210 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: would have given you would have given your first impression 1211 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 1: roads to? Oh gosh, Okay, honestly, I think I also 1212 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 1: would have chose Garrett because I'm always gone to the 1213 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 1: funny guys. Um, somebody that you know a little bit 1214 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: quirky and um can make me laugh or just catch 1215 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 1: me off. Stard a little unexpected. So I'm like, so 1216 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: far right in line with Becca. Who would you if 1217 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: you were obsessist? Garret? And then good question, the question 1218 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 1: applies to you. I'm pretty I'm pretty much up there 1219 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: with Becca too. I think like the three guys that 1220 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 1: I would be most attention to would be Garrett, Blake 1221 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 1: and Colton. Yeah. I know well Colson, So he's a 1222 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: he's a Denver guy. Do you know him? Then? I do? Yeah, Yeah, 1223 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: I do know him. Um, not super well. Um, I 1224 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: know him enough. And he's great. I mean he's good. 1225 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 1: We went to a wedding together. He runs a great foundation. 1226 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: He's one of the four people that have started on 1227 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: profit that have participated in the franchise. Yeah, he's good looking, 1228 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 1: like ash and I were just talking about. I mean, 1229 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 1: I think he's up there obviously we're you know, he's 1230 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 1: he is a front runner on this season. I'm a 1231 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 1: big fan of the grocer. I liked it. Yeah. Last 1232 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: year when Ari was the Bachelor, I wrote down my 1233 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: top five women and he what was Ashley like? He 1234 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: let three of the five go on the first night. 1235 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 1: That seems to be your tendency. Yeah, I'm a big 1236 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm a Big Night One, go Homer. Wait, you know 1237 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 1: who Colton reminds me of? Like every time I look 1238 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: at him, he I think they're striking resemblance to Ben Scott. 1239 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Do you remember Ben from des Ray season Chris Pratt. Oh, 1240 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 1: that's nice, it's Chris. Okay, here, okay, let's let's go 1241 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,000 Speaker 1: off on a little side tangent. Let's not take too 1242 01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 1: long here. The Chris Pratt obsession is he that could look? No, 1243 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: I think it's like changed. I think yes, he's I 1244 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: think he's very attractive. I think he's a little overdone. 1245 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 1: But I do think he's sexy because he's funny, and 1246 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,439 Speaker 1: you like the guy who's funny and you can hang 1247 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: out with that. Overcame his like chubb face because he 1248 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 1: is pretty striking in Jurassic Park and when he's all 1249 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 1: tan and steady, I thought it was great. But I 1250 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 1: like him because he's like kind of he's like everyday 1251 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,640 Speaker 1: guy kind of look you know what I mean? In 1252 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: Avengers when he's next to Um Hemsworth, Hemsworth, Chris Hemsworth, 1253 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: You're like, wow, poor Chris Pratt. But any other time, 1254 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 1: but feel like if it were real life, Like there's 1255 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 1: no way I would ever have. I just wouldn't even 1256 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 1: feel like I could strike up a conversation with hemns Worth, 1257 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,919 Speaker 1: but I could feel like I could hold my own 1258 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: with Chris Pratt. I was. I met Chris Simsworth last week, 1259 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 1: and I got nervous, like it got weird. Guy's just 1260 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 1: the guy's beautiful. He shines like light reflects off of 1261 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: him because he's looking. Um, Sarah, what is one storyline 1262 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: right now during the Bachelor at season that you're most 1263 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 1: intrigued to follow? Um, that's a really good question. I'm 1264 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 1: always really intrigued just to follow the Colorado people. So 1265 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: I think we have a lot of yeah, especially because 1266 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 1: Um Blake is from Bailey, Colorado, which is the town 1267 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 1: next to the town I grew up in, which is Evergreen, Colorado. Um, 1268 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 1: So I'm just like naturally interested to see where that goes. 1269 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: But as far as people, there's something about um, gosh, 1270 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think, Um, Jordan's is going to 1271 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 1: be an entertaining one, but I'm already he's driving me 1272 01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 1: crazy already, um, and I only not in a bad way. 1273 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: But I don't know if anyone totally hooked me yet. 1274 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 1: Do you guys have someone I mean, I think there's 1275 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,280 Speaker 1: a couple of storylines the Colton situation right now with 1276 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 1: dating team super excited, very intrigued by that. Um you 1277 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 1: know this this whole Lincoln thing. I don't get the guy. 1278 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, don't get it. But here's one thing I'm 1279 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: confused about. I have watched this show now for a 1280 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,479 Speaker 1: long time, but a part of it for a long time. 1281 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: There has never been anybody I've watched the show and 1282 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 1: felt like they're more of a character. Je He just 1283 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 1: seems he seems to be so much of a character, 1284 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,919 Speaker 1: Like he doesn't seem to be real. And we've watched 1285 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 1: the show many times and been like, oh, there's the villain. 1286 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Oh there's the person that says wild things. So that 1287 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 1: this person that's annoying. Do you both feel like George's 1288 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 1: just a character? He feels like Karen to me, Yeah, 1289 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: And I am curious if it's like, is he aware 1290 01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: or is it intentional? You know what I mean? Is 1291 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 1: he playing up because you know he's going to get 1292 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 1: that edit if you will, or just that feedback, or 1293 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 1: is he like completely not self aware of I think 1294 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 1: he's totally self aware. You think so? Lincoln is another 1295 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 1: good one to talk about though, because when I watched 1296 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 1: his hometown package, he was a stand out to me, 1297 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 1: Like I was like, Oh, I'm super intrigued by this guy. 1298 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 1: And then this week I just felt like, Yeah, this 1299 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: is not going well, Like there's something a little Stevie 1300 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: cheaty going on about like his intentions or I'm not 1301 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 1: really sure, but that storyline I think is going to 1302 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:45,599 Speaker 1: get weird. Sarah. That happened to me too, because I 1303 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,559 Speaker 1: saw him on after the Final Rose and I was like, oh, wow, 1304 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 1: that's a front runner. And then I met him in 1305 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:56,799 Speaker 1: real life and I was like, I don't think so anymore. Really, Yeah, 1306 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,719 Speaker 1: I mean his hometown package is like such a seller, 1307 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,639 Speaker 1: So that's too bad. But I mean I'm still excited 1308 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 1: to see where it goes. Obviously, the drama is crazy. 1309 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 1: I did think it was funny when the guys won 1310 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 1: the dodge ball game and then they brought the trophy 1311 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 1: back to the group date and they're like, is it 1312 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 1: okay we leave the trophy sitting here on the table. 1313 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Is that gonna offend you guys? I thought that's funny. 1314 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 1: Whoever said that? So good this season? Um, okay, last 1315 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 1: year at this time We're two episodes in. Are was 1316 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,760 Speaker 1: the Bachelor? We're sitting here on this podcast, We're saying, Okay, 1317 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: we don't get it, We're not into it. We don't 1318 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 1: know where this is going. Do you all what do 1319 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 1: you think? I mean outside of this being the Bachelor 1320 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 1: app and I mean, is this a good season so far? Like? 1321 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 1: Are we engaged? Are we into it already? After week two? Uh? 1322 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 1: Do you want me to answer first? Or do you 1323 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: on it? I think you should? Okay, I think I 1324 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 1: think it always is a little bit of a slow 1325 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,479 Speaker 1: roll every season. Um, and so I think it's just 1326 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 1: it's early. It's everyone is still super amped up on 1327 01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: the new season of the Bachelorette, and so it's like 1328 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 1: we're tuning in. But I don't think there has been 1329 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: any like major hook yet, but I think it will come. 1330 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 1: It's it's just always hard with the first few episodes. 1331 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,200 Speaker 1: So no, I don't think there's been anything crazy to 1332 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,840 Speaker 1: like reel it in yet. But um, maybe that's just 1333 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 1: because Beck is not like crazy. I mean, you guys 1334 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: just matter. You know. She seems like a pretty down 1335 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,479 Speaker 1: to earth, well rounded, awesome chick that isn't just going 1336 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 1: to have like a group of like, you know, crazy dudes. 1337 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, Ashley, what do you think? I kind 1338 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 1: of agree with her, like she's gonna be so even keeled. 1339 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 1: We definitely need the guys to bring the drama. So 1340 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,640 Speaker 1: we'll see which guy comes out of the woodwork to 1341 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,040 Speaker 1: be the drama queen, because Jordan's just gonna be so 1342 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 1: silly and um, he's just playing the role. And I 1343 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 1: think she knows he's playing the role. And then we 1344 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 1: just need like our villain to emerge. Who do you 1345 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: think it is? I think it might be Lincoln or 1346 01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 1: Lincoln and Connor drama the entire time. Is there anyone 1347 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 1: we can picture being in Paradise already? Like no spoilers, 1348 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's like I feel like Lincoln 1349 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 1: will for sure be in Paradise. We can't get to 1350 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 1: the end. Oh yeah, and Connor, Mconnor Connor actually yes, 1351 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,560 Speaker 1: And then definitely Colton since he has some drama with 1352 01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 1: Dia if he doesn't make it all the way. Oh 1353 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 1: my gosh, I just I look at I look at 1354 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 1: these guys. Here's the thing, this is why I don't 1355 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 1: go on Paradise. I look at all these guys right now, 1356 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 1: there episode where all they're all shirtless. I don't know 1357 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 1: how people get so many things to pop out of 1358 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 1: so many places on a human body. There's so many 1359 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,760 Speaker 1: abs and they all should go on Paradise. I mean, 1360 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 1: just to inspire me, I need to sit on my 1361 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 1: couch with my halotop ice cream founding it and just go, Yeah, 1362 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna be me one day. I might be nine, 1363 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 1: but one day you'll see me in Paradise straight Perlexi 1364 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 1: on these dudes. Hey, Sarah, thank you so much for 1365 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,120 Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. We all ways appreciate you. Before 1366 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 1: you go, you're starting the she Lift podcast or you've 1367 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,439 Speaker 1: already started. It's in It's it's in the running. Where 1368 01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 1: can people find it? Yeah, you can find it on 1369 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,280 Speaker 1: iTunes and Google Play soon to be Spotify, I promised. Um, 1370 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 1: we've only had a couple episodes out, so please be 1371 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 1: sure to subscribe and rate and review it. And Athlete, 1372 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna come on my show right? Yes? Okay, yeah, 1373 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 1: I have to have you on, and then I would 1374 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,560 Speaker 1: love to like I mean, we have Leslie Murphy on, 1375 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:35,240 Speaker 1: who actually gave Generous Coffee a great shout out and 1376 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: all the work that she had been doing with you guys, 1377 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 1: down and hunders with hope for humanity. So lots of 1378 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 1: goodness going on and um yeah, thank you guys so much. 1379 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 1: So She Lift Podcast awesome. Well, hey, make sure you 1380 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 1: go out there support Sarah Heron and the She Lift Podcast, 1381 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,600 Speaker 1: Support the organization, support what she's doing. She's awesome, She's incredible. 1382 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 1: She is a world changer, a life changer, a game changer. 1383 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 1: Everybody round of a laws coming on the podcast, Ashley. 1384 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,439 Speaker 1: Our favorite favorite time of year when we get to 1385 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 1: read reader emails, and that's what we're gonna do right now. 1386 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,559 Speaker 1: I don't think we missed anything about the episode. If 1387 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 1: we did, please write, as in at been and Ashley 1388 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 1: her meat dot com, you guys never lacked to get 1389 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 1: us really great criticism, really great love and feedback. So 1390 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 1: if we've missed anything this episode, please let us know. 1391 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,680 Speaker 1: We want to hear your opinions, your thoughts, UM, your reviews. UM. 1392 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, just tell ashually you're happy for everybody 1393 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:32,600 Speaker 1: else's um and I'm so hey, ash I know, we 1394 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 1: got a couple of emails that we really want to 1395 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,680 Speaker 1: touch on before we go. Um, I gotta read one 1396 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 1: for you, Okay, it's called three Questions about josh Lee. Joshley. 1397 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,839 Speaker 1: Is that you Jared Nash That's what we're calling you, Joshley. 1398 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 1: That's so sweet, god a little bitter. You know, I'm 1399 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 1: better because you made me wait for so long for this. 1400 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 1: Just sitting here, I'm like, man, of the last two 1401 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,559 Speaker 1: years of my life could have been so much less stressful. 1402 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: If you and jaredy just would have got together. Then wait, 1403 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:05,040 Speaker 1: well yeah, imagine my life. I'm gold. But then we 1404 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 1: never would have been able to do a show together. 1405 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 1: And I'm glad we got that. That was nice. I 1406 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,719 Speaker 1: enjoyed that a couple of weeks with you. So anyways, okay, 1407 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 1: says from Diana. I listened to this week's podcast, and 1408 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,799 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for Ashley and Jared. It Surprise, Surprise, 1409 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 1: honestly is the closest thing to a chick flick come 1410 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 1: to life. And I would definitely watch a movie based 1411 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 1: on your story if it was made. I guess my 1412 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,439 Speaker 1: question was sort of alluded to in the story of Us, 1413 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,080 Speaker 1: but not really answered. Since you guys have been dating 1414 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 1: for a couple of months now, it's basically coincides pretty 1415 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 1: well with Ashley and Kevin's relationship ending. So my question is, 1416 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 1: if Jared hadn't come around and told Ashley his feelings, 1417 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 1: would Kevin and Ashley have kept dating? Essentially that Ashley 1418 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 1: and Kevin break up because of Jared. Such a good question, 1419 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 1: actually one I think we all, you know, would love 1420 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 1: an answer to um and then and then it goes 1421 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 1: on to say this also, if Ashley hadn't gone on 1422 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 1: win our games? Oh, this is such a good question, 1423 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 1: would it have taken even longer for Jared to realize 1424 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 1: his feelings? And last, but not least, Ashley, there was 1425 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,160 Speaker 1: was there ever a time you had completely gotten over Jared, 1426 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 1: like accepted that you guys will be best friends? But 1427 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 1: that's it. This is definitely one of the best real 1428 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 1: life love stories I've ever heard from Diana. Actually, let 1429 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 1: me close this by saying, I love this email. I 1430 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,800 Speaker 1: think it asked a lot of questions that people have 1431 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 1: asked me. And you know, I think you have great 1432 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 1: answers to him and and and they're all truthful, honest. 1433 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 1: But I do want to say that when she talks 1434 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 1: about your love story and a chick flick movie, I 1435 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 1: wonder if there's ever like a subconscious thing that you've 1436 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 1: helped create this, you know, because you've always dreamed of 1437 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 1: this chick flick storytelling or this this love story that 1438 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 1: you know you really could be a movie, and you've 1439 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,960 Speaker 1: gotten it. How special are you? Like? Self manifested it? 1440 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 1: It's so bizarre, it's kind of weird. I just wonder 1441 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,559 Speaker 1: that we can diagnose that a later podcast. Anyways, you've 1442 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 1: got some questions answer? Okay, So Diana, UM, it's you've 1443 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 1: you've seen the story of us, which Jared and I did, 1444 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:59,800 Speaker 1: because our story has so many details and nuances that 1445 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 1: I'll a lot of which Bachelor Nation never saw. So 1446 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 1: we wanted to kind of put it together so that 1447 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,760 Speaker 1: people wouldn't have to necessarily ask these questions. But you 1448 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 1: seem to have watched it, and if it wasn't clear enough, 1449 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:14,480 Speaker 1: then I will answer these are right here right now. Essentially, 1450 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,440 Speaker 1: did actually break up with Kevin because of Jared? Absolutely not. Um. 1451 01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 1: I think my relationship with Kevin. Um, it was wonderful 1452 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 1: in the Bachelor bubble, and then the more we hung 1453 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 1: out in real life, the more I realized that our 1454 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,719 Speaker 1: interests were totally different. Um, we didn't have the type 1455 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 1: of mental connection that I feel like I needed, and 1456 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,760 Speaker 1: I honestly I would have broken up, but I would 1457 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,840 Speaker 1: have had to break up with him to be fair 1458 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,280 Speaker 1: to him and his feelings in March anyway. Um, would 1459 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 1: it have taken longer for Jared to realize his feelings. 1460 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Jared didn't realize his feelings until Winter Games. 1461 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,680 Speaker 1: I think that Winter Games and me coming out of 1462 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,799 Speaker 1: it with a relationship was the way was what forced 1463 01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 1: him to come out about his feelings. It was kind 1464 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,479 Speaker 1: of the push that he needed in order to express them. 1465 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't that they weren't harboring inside him. And then, um, 1466 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 1: did you ever get over? I deservever time where you 1467 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 1: completely got over Jared? And yeah, I talked about this 1468 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,680 Speaker 1: in UM The Story of Us. I did definitely over 1469 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,200 Speaker 1: the past. Like nine months before he came out about 1470 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 1: his feelings, I thought, I don't think this is ever 1471 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 1: going to happen, because this is not even the guy 1472 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,320 Speaker 1: that I fell in love with in the first place, 1473 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,640 Speaker 1: because he had gotten into such a dark hole. It 1474 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 1: was weird. He Yeah, he wasn't the same anymore. So 1475 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 1: then I was. I was kind of over him as 1476 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 1: anything more than just a friend. Um. Yeah, but like, 1477 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:40,640 Speaker 1: I guess in the back of my mind, I was 1478 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,679 Speaker 1: always like, hey, if I'm not married at thirty five 1479 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,640 Speaker 1: and he's not, then we got that marriage packed and 1480 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 1: then we can start having kids. At least we'll have 1481 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 1: a family together and we'll enjoy each other's company. Maybe 1482 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,800 Speaker 1: it won't be the most romantic of scenarios, but yeah, 1483 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,439 Speaker 1: but now, who would have thought Jared had so much 1484 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 1: romance busting inside of him? When did you? Like? I mean, 1485 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 1: I've wondered this. When did it? Kind of because I 1486 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,840 Speaker 1: know that you had moved on you kind of like 1487 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 1: I guess recited the fact that this wasn't gonna be 1488 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 1: a thing that you're going to be good friends for 1489 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 1: a long time, and you guys were friends, you would 1490 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:10,960 Speaker 1: hang out and you wouldn't kiss, you wouldn't hug, you 1491 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,680 Speaker 1: want to do anything. You just hang out, which is 1492 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 1: always weird to me. There had to be more. But um, 1493 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,559 Speaker 1: when did it finally said into you actually like, I 1494 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 1: really like this guy, like I love this guy? Like? 1495 01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,280 Speaker 1: When did that? How did that process work? Was it 1496 01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,840 Speaker 1: just an overwhelming feeling once he told you? Or I mean, 1497 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know. How does that love thing work? Well? 1498 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,000 Speaker 1: I always say that I was loved at first sight, 1499 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 1: and like it was an intense feeling that I had 1500 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,599 Speaker 1: for like a year and a half where even after 1501 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,720 Speaker 1: Paradise three, I knew that I had to stop feeling that, 1502 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,799 Speaker 1: like I needed to stop expressing things to him because 1503 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,120 Speaker 1: he was very clear with it, it's never going to happen, 1504 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,200 Speaker 1: So then I wouldn't. I would stop trying to like 1505 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,720 Speaker 1: quote pursue it, and I just like kind of internalize 1506 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,080 Speaker 1: it and talked to my friends about it, but I 1507 01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 1: never talked to him about my feelings. And then then 1508 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,200 Speaker 1: like March of two, that was in seventeen is when 1509 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,679 Speaker 1: I feel like I lost feelings a bit. And then 1510 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,520 Speaker 1: when he came out to me about his feelings in January, 1511 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know I was going to react the way 1512 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 1: that I did, which was very positively, because people would 1513 01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 1: be like, what if Jared came out about his feelings 1514 01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,040 Speaker 1: now now that you're with somebody else. I was like, 1515 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 1: I'd be like, sorry, Susie, lose. But then when he 1516 01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 1: told me, I thought, l you are something to me. Yeah. 1517 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know what that like giggle was. I didn't 1518 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 1: know if it was like an evil giggle like like 1519 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 1: it was like, Hey, Jared, I love you man, You're 1520 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:40,200 Speaker 1: You're my dude. Okay, we're gonna we want to take 1521 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 1: a second here while we read listener emails and and 1522 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: just uh say thank you to our good friend, our 1523 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 1: dear friends, Susie, who is a consistent listener to the 1524 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast. She's also the chairman of the Almost 1525 01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 1: Famous Podcast Facebook group. We we appreciate Susie and she's 1526 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,280 Speaker 1: going through a rough time right now. We understand that, 1527 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 1: and we just want to reach out to Susie and 1528 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,120 Speaker 1: say thank you for everything you've done for us and 1529 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,599 Speaker 1: supporting us as people, as as a podcast, which means 1530 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:14,040 Speaker 1: a lot to Ashna individually, UM, but also just thanks 1531 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,439 Speaker 1: for the impact you're making by building a community of people. 1532 01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 1: You've done it for for a lot, uh a large 1533 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 1: group at this point, and we know that you're struggling. 1534 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,560 Speaker 1: We know that this is a tough season of life. UM, 1535 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: you've recently lost somebody very close to you, and we 1536 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 1: just want to reach out and say we're thinking of 1537 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 1: you're praying for you, we love you, we appreciate you. 1538 01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,559 Speaker 1: You always have a community with us, UM, and just 1539 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 1: know that you're on our thoughts and our mind. You're 1540 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,840 Speaker 1: a huge part of this podcast, so this podcast. Let's 1541 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 1: dedicate this podcast, this one to Susie. We love you. Susie. 1542 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,759 Speaker 1: You bring so much light into these um podcast groups. 1543 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Um you're always just smiling. I feel like everything you 1544 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,080 Speaker 1: say it's with a smile, So we love you. Actually, 1545 01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 1: any any emails that really stand out to you? Here? 1546 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 1: There's one more I would like to go through. All right, 1547 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 1: it says what about Rachel? It's from Tammy. Hello, Ben 1548 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,479 Speaker 1: and Ashley Avid listener here. I loved hearing Ashley's top 1549 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 1: five bachelorette picks from last week. However, I'm curious as 1550 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,960 Speaker 1: to why Rachel Lizzie Lindsay wasn't on the list. What 1551 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 1: were some things that you didn't like about her season? 1552 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:17,240 Speaker 1: She's beautiful, well spoken, funny and a boss. What do 1553 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 1: you think it should have been done differently? Do you 1554 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,120 Speaker 1: think that guys in her season were just super lame? 1555 01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to write my brain about how the queen 1556 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 1: didn't make the cut. Ps. Ben didn't give his top 1557 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 1: five favorite picks, which is okay, but can he at 1558 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 1: least share who his favorite bachelorette? Who his favorite Bachelorette 1559 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 1: of all time is keep killing the podcast game, guys, 1560 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,640 Speaker 1: um Ben is your favorite Bachelor atte ever? Caitlin, I 1561 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,680 Speaker 1: would have to say so or or what if we 1562 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 1: didn't add Rachel Lindsay to the list because we were 1563 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,720 Speaker 1: saving it for this podcast in this episode, because my 1564 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:54,479 Speaker 1: favorite bachelor at of all time is Rachel Lindsay, the Queen. No, 1565 01:21:54,640 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 1: it's it's kids. She's great, cal Caitlin a bachelor. I mean, 1566 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,479 Speaker 1: like we've talked about though, you know, you have Jojo, 1567 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 1: who I think is awesome. You know, I have a 1568 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 1: lot of respect for Jojo. You have Caitlin, who is 1569 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,760 Speaker 1: obviously incredible, Rachel, who is the queen, who is incredible 1570 01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 1: and held her ground and did a great job on 1571 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 1: a season that was tough, it was really hard. You 1572 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,639 Speaker 1: have Becca right now, who's I think going to crush 1573 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,800 Speaker 1: the game. Then you go back even years too. I mean, 1574 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,160 Speaker 1: you just have bachelor after bachelor after bachelor that are great. 1575 01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 1: It's hard to pick just five. They they've all been 1576 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 1: really good. I don't think we have one that's bad 1577 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 1: right right As a bachelor at herself, I think Rachel 1578 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 1: really is a boss. I think she has everything going on. 1579 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,120 Speaker 1: I think we didn't put him or her in the 1580 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 1: top five because her secure guys were so lame, like 1581 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,559 Speaker 1: so lame that we couldn't even get a Bachelor out 1582 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,080 Speaker 1: of them, so lamb that I can only think about 1583 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 1: three guys from her season off the top of my 1584 01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,960 Speaker 1: head right now. Yeah, and I mean, no, okay, never mind, 1585 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,960 Speaker 1: of course. Now I'm thinking about the different guys, and 1586 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 1: I think about Raven and Adam being like Raven Adam, 1587 01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,880 Speaker 1: they're not engaged. But you know, it's just it's tough. 1588 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't a great season, not because of Rachel, but 1589 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,200 Speaker 1: because mostly the guys in our season were great. We 1590 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,439 Speaker 1: had a couple of really solid ones, but outside of that, 1591 01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,760 Speaker 1: it just was kind of one of those. It was okay, 1592 01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:15,639 Speaker 1: it was, But she is bomb dot com, bomb dot com. 1593 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of bomb dot com, everybody, this has been a 1594 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,320 Speaker 1: bomb dot com podcast. We appreciate you. We have we 1595 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,719 Speaker 1: have now I think eclipsed. Uh. I think it's four 1596 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,639 Speaker 1: million total lessens um in our time as a podcast. 1597 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely insane. Absolutely, that's bigger than the state, almost as 1598 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,280 Speaker 1: big as the state I grew up in. Um, Indiana. 1599 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 1: You're wondering, Um, Actually, we're happy with your love story. 1600 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,759 Speaker 1: You're you're still You're still in a relationship, right, yes, Okay, 1601 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,120 Speaker 1: let us know, let us know if that changes. Until then, Hey, everybody, 1602 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:48,760 Speaker 1: I've been been, I've been Ashley. I love you. Bye bye. 1603 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,559 Speaker 1: Followed the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 1604 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,840 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.