WEBVTT - Held Up by their Pinky Toes 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.840 This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:04.680 with iHeartRadio. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.119 It's Almost Famous podcast. We are here. It's the off season. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.080 It's a very short off season for the Almost Famous podcast. 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:13.680 We're going to be right back at it breaking down 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.400 the Golden Bachelorette, and one of our hopes and goals 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.200 and also one of our most earnest opinions, is that 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.759 we hope you are so excited for the Golden Bachelorette 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.279 and we want to get you excited for the Golden Bachelorettes. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.000 So we're going to end this episode talking about the 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:32.800 Golden Bachelorette and its upcoming premiere on September eighteenth. We're punkier. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.360 It's Almost Famous podcast keeps our off season shorter. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:36.879 Which I like you do. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:39.199 Yeah, I mean, you know, I like off season, but 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:40.400 I also like in season. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:43.360 It does make it easier to talk to this But 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.159 like when we had a longer off season, a deeper 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.880 off season, I like you we got some guests, Yeah, 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:53.080 we got some guests that like really pulled some some 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.840 good stuff out. So we kind of turned more into 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.880 just a breakdown podcast, which is fine. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.200 Kah, because I like interview heavy as well. 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.880 Hey, guys, let us know what interviews you want us 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.959 to see, what interviews you want to hear. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:09.319 Who we haven't had. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.560 On a good point, who would you be most interested 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.520 in hearing from, even if we agree or disagree with 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:19.720 them as people on the show, it would help us 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:20.880 know who you're into. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.720 Yeah, and also, well you should let them know that 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.680 a lot of the times we don't have control over 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.800 the guests, getting guests who are still under contract. So 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.399 if you're wondering, like why we haven't had you know, 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:37.080 let's just say Devin. Well, the show is in charge 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.600 about who Devin does and does not talk to, maybe 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.680 not does not talk to, but like they're very going 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.880 to be very picky, and they try to spread it 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:48.000 out as much as they can. 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.480 They're scared of us, actually that's what they are. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.160 They're scared that we would get the truth out and 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.559 it would be too hard hitting, and so they're keeping 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.880 Devin far away from almost famous podcast. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.400 Actually I'm going to be interest to see when they 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.800 do let Devin speak, and yes, it really is like that, guys, 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.320 when he is let to speak, sure he could get 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:13.160 on Instagram and say what things that you know he 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.520 wants to say but if it's anything about the show, 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:17.960 they're going to tell him to take that. 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.680 Down right away, right Yeah. And I don't know. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.480 I don't even think he's gonna want He probably doesn't 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.320 want to talk. He probably doesn't want to do interviews 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:26.760 right now. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.400 Well, I mean, I can't imagine any interview he's going 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.000 to do makes him feel like he's. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:32.760 He's gonna look good. 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.400 I don't think he can really. Only he can only 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:40.760 go up. That's what I'm saying. He could only go. 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.280 Then you should come on here. Then. Actually, we had 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:44.040 a big weekend. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:48.959 We were together this weekend for a very exciting celebration 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:53.000 of along Gale and his new wife, Molly. Alan was 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:57.280 the executive producer during our time on the show and 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.960 probably is the best known producer, I would say from 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.440 the show, just because he has a big character, and 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.600 he's gone on to do other projects post Bachelor World, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:10.720 like f Boy Island and Island. 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.640 Yeah, there's like some he have some horror movies in 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.480 the works, And I think just because he is such 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:21.520 a character, he kind of garnered a following on social 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:22.360 media of his own. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:24.200 It's the Year of Alan. 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.320 If you want to follow him on Instagram, and then 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.440 like he has the food of a lawn. So so 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.800 all of that just makes him he's just he is 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:38.640 the ultimate character and we love him just in so 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.480 many ways that we can't even describe. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.000 Yeah, you love and hate the man when you're with 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.200 him working for him on the show, and then you 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.040 learn to love him a lot. So he was to 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.960 give some context for me. I think everybody that goes 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.880 on the show that's around long enough has a moment 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:55.839 with a lin that stands out. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.800 That's kind of what his thing. For me. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.320 He was the one that really, I don't want to 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.920 say got me to because it kind of sounds like forced. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:08.080 He supported me in my kind of ability to admit, hey, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.800 I feel unlikable or my self esteem is so low 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.240 on myself that I feel the more people get to 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.640 know me, the less they'll like me, which came out 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.520 on the show as I feel unlovable. That was a 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.479 four hour conversation with a lot that we had one 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.479 on one, and it was a beautiful conversation for me. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.120 It was one of the moments that I would say, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:29.960 you know, when you're on the show, you never know 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.159 if you can trust alone or not. I think was 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.479 kind of the the sentiment, unless. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:40.480 You're us trust to put my life eat to your hands. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.840 Such an interesting decision you make, considering now he does 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:50.719 horror films. But the uh, you know, I think that 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.680 was a conversation that I look back on today and 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.680 has a had a massive impact in my life in 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.359 the best of ways. And it was one of the 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.440 first times I felt like somebody sat down and tried 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.440 to get to know me, and then the more they 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.640 got to know me, the less they didn't judge me. 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.000 And he finally was like, you just feel lovable, and 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.080 I was like, I do change everything. So Alan Is 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.520 is a wise counsel, and he is missed on the show, 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.040 I think, and in so many ways. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.200 Lots of people were dming me when they saw it 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:19.919 was a lawn dwedding that we were at, and they're like, oh, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.039 the show hasn't been the same since he's left, Like 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.160 I think a lot of people are aware of, like 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.960 his tenor on the show a lawn to me, Yeah, 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.000 we just had I can't even say it was a 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.800 brother sister relationship. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.640 It was a godfather. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:41.680 And god daughters, a fairy god father, fair god father. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:48.479 Yes, what about Alan made you trust truly. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.719 Like giddy, like I would like just giggle and smile 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:51.279 around him. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:55.359 And whenever he was not around for you know, say. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.840 It was nighttime on the show and he hadn't made 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.960 his appearance yet, I'd be like. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:01.960 There's a lot, where's a lot. I need a lot. 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.360 I need my heart and soul needs that man. And 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.800 then he'd walk in the room and I basically would 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:07.120 just like. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.159 Tomple him feels unhealthy, and I'd. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.760 Always like talk to him with my hands on his 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.279 beard and just like look in his eyes, and I 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.040 just fully put my trust in him. He always had 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.320 my best interests at heart at a macro level, I felt, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.919 but he knew that he was going to have to 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:33.640 put me through some small, smaller situations that I may 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.800 not look good or I may have been really upset by. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:39.960 But at the end of the day, he was always 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.880 telling me, even if this feels that's the best word 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:48.479 I can use, You're gonna turn out great in the end, okay. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.159 And I think looking back on it, it was more 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:56.240 of like you need those moments where you look like 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.160 you don't know what you're doing, that you look really 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.559 dumb to be like almost related like these are true 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.200 to you. These characteristics are true to you, and it's 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.039 going to make you so much more human in the end, 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.840 and looking back on the experience so far removed, I 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:16.440 see exactly what he's talking about. Some of my worst 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.800 looking moments on the show. I think, like when you 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:20.840 add it with like all the moments. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.040 Together, like just made me a better character. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:28.600 And he was absolutely right in the sense that I 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.640 was really dumb at times, but then at the end 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.600 of the day, look go what my life turned into. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.680 He gets to know the characters very well, which is 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.680 a testament to his job. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.440 Yes, his storytelling is unbelievable. 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:42.600 You know. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.000 He was the efficient at you and Jared's wedding. Yeah, 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:50.200 your wedding, which was really beautiful. So, yes, had a 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:51.360 huge impact in your life. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:52.000 Yeah. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.000 There are other Bachelor contestants, some of which weren't even there, 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.800 that he's had massive impacts in their lives. But the 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:03.760 ones that were there where Nick and Natalie, We had Aaron, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:09.920 Adam and Raven, You and Jared. There was obviously Jessica 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:16.640 and myself, Ari and Lauren Lyon Thurston. Katie Thurston was there, JP, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:23.880 Chris Harrison and his wife Lauren, who else, Scletar who 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.680 was a producer on the show back in the day, Bennett, 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:27.640 who was still on the. 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.600 Show as a producer, was there. A couple of other producers. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.600 C Ohn know is Nicole's not there anymore? And then 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.160 Peter Guice who also is not there anymore. So I 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.280 think Bennett is the only one that was Oh Jana too. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.880 There's a lot of people that are now working for 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.360 Alan that used to work on the Bachelor franchise. I 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:51.320 know we're forgetting somebody that was there from the Bachelor World. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.120 Let me just review the picture real quick. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.760 Caitlyn was supposed to be there, she couldn't. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.280 I'm sure there was a lot that were supposed to 0:08:58.320 --> 0:08:59.520 be there that weren't. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:03.440 There too, which interesting. Caitlin and Tasha both the ones 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:04.839 that didn't show up, well, that. 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.280 Just feels sad that they weren't. But Oh Joe and 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.959 Serena were there. That's it. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.200 We named them all, so we got through everybody there. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.160 It was a beautiful wedding we thought it would be. 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.240 Jessica explained it last night at dinner. I think in 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.400 a really great way. I said, Jessica, what do you 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.200 think of the wedding? She's like, it was incredible, it 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.880 was beautiful, it was heart like felt, she was. I 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.320 was just surprised because I had prepared for it to 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.040 be a lot less wedding e than it was. It 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.280 was a wedding, I thought, and I agreed with her. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.440 I thought it'd be a little more eccentric. I thought 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.400 they would find even weirder things to do. Yes, the 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.200 whole ceremony, there were plenty of weird things, sure, but 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.600 it was a very beautiful wedding. Like it was a 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.400 great celebration of the two of them, Molly and Alan. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.240 Molly is a big time actress, has been in a 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:48.520 lot of. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.319 Different things, most notably Castle. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.160 Yeah, most notably Castle. Now the two of them are 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.679 working together on a few different projects and have kind 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:59.000 of gone to the development side of things together and 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.640 they've done some incredible will work within that realm. But 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:07.040 Molly is uh, well, looked stunning. Everybody I hear from 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.120 on Instagram or is telling me that Molly just looked beautiful, 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:10.880 and she did. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:15.000 We don't have any pictures of her ethereal dress from 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.839 the ceremony. She decided not to wear white, which I 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.079 think made sense for her just to have an offbeat, 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:22.800 non traditional wedding dress. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.840 Because we weren't allowed to take pictures during the ceremony. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:27.480 I don't know if that there's any pictures out there 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.880 of that, but it was so pretty. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.080 I'm sure they will be eventually. And then James Gunn 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.560 the show of DC Comics kind of that was the 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:37.680 head of Easy Comics. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:42.520 Someone Is was the efficient and that's because they met 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.199 for the first time at his house. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:50.480 Yeah, and he was also the producer director on Guardians 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.679 of the Galaxy. So James Gunn's a big name, kind 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.200 of a household name. He did do the ceremony. There 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.679 were other stars there, some of which I don't know. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:00.319 The name of. 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.640 Beth Green, Matthew Lillard. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:06.160 Nathan Fillion was there. Nathan Fillions, if you looked him up, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:07.520 you would know him for so many things. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:07.959 He was in. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:13.600 Rookie and Castle, Firefly, the Suicide Squad. He's like one 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.440 of those actors that is in everything and you just 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:17.640 like don't. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:18.160 Know his name. 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.840 Is he the one that was in the Dark Knight? Probably, Yeah, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.959 there was in the Dark Knight. And then Chris Chris 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.680 Sullivan is the one from This Is Us. What else 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.640 did I want to mention from Oh yeah, the funny 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.760 part where a lawn had I think along wrote this 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.760 song about a boy in peanuts and going to hell. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.760 There's a real Peanuts Golden Boy Peanuts. 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.839 Golden Boy Peanuts. Yeah, I mean it's a peanut brand. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:42.880 Yeah. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.880 Okay, So he like wrote a song and then they 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.800 gave us these pamphlets to not open until the song 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.120 was supposed to be performed. And guys, we all sang 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.160 a song that we had never heard before. So just 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.880 imagine people trying to come up with and like the 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.839 beat in the rhythm of a song that they've never heard, 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:03.840 we all saying the lyrics together. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.080 It was the most alaw on moment ever. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.160 Alan did not come up with that song. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.679 Just let you know, Oh really, who did. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:15.600 The Mountain Goats his favorite band from forever ago. It's 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.280 a Mountain Goats song, Golden Boy Peanuts, and it's probably 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:20.680 his favorite Mountain Goats song. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.800 But it's it is. You can listen to it. 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:33.200 It's by the Mountain Goats called Golden Boy. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.839 Well, anyway, you guys, it was a great wedding, and 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.760 it to us was a bachelor family wedding because to me, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.000 Alan is the head wizard and always will be of 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:49.600 the Bachelor franchise. And he made that Golden era that 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.440 a lot of people refer to from like two thousand 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.040 and yeah, Like you know, he started, I want to 0:12:56.040 --> 0:13:01.880 say he started with Emily Maner's season through he left 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:06.040 where about before Hannah season. Hannah season was the first 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:06.920 one with Alalon. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:08.040 Yeah. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.320 Final story from the wedding, A couple of things, just 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:14.640 a quick breakdown. People wondered and asked us whether what 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.080 is it like to get together again? 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.480 Is it awkward? Is it weird? Never weird? Never awkward. 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.360 I'm sure you know there's disagreements amongst the different some 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.320 of the different people. I don't know them necessarily, but 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.960 everybody gets along really well. It's really exciting to be 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:32.240 with this group. We get so excited and it's it's 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.679 interesting to me how you know. At first these were 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.200 big parties, big celebration. This was a big party in celebration. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.440 But now a lot of the conversation aers found kids. 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.640 Things have taken a massive step into families and kind 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.040 of children. A lot of the people they're having children, 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.040 are getting married and you know, hoping to have a 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.319 family one day of some kind and so that was 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.600 a big conversation. For a lot of it is what 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.200 are you doing with your kids and how are your 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.000 kids doing? And then my favorite story from the whole 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:06.679 night is they served all different types of Asian cuisine 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:12.440 during this ceremony. One of it was rice noodles. Ashley 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:13.959 grabbed the bowl of rice noodles. You can check my 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.560 instagram right now for the exact picture. She went to 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.880 scoop out her rice noodles and they went all over 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.440 her chest. It was impressive just how much she just 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.400 got out of the bowl onto her body, and then 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.360 just in good old Ashley fashion. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.520 She picks it off and throws it right back into 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:31.200 the shared bowl. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.280 I know, I didn't even didn't even dawn on me. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.120 It's actually I feel like, in Ashley fashion, it would 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.040 go right in my mouth. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:39.360 But didn't do that either. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:45.440 As far as the drama that happens at these things there, 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.440 this wasn't dramatic, but it was a tidbit. It was 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.760 the first time Raven and Nick had seen each other 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:51.240 since the ending of their season. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.120 You know, I told Jessica that night, I said, you know, 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.880 Raven was number two on Nick season, and she goes 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.440 no way and say they make no sense, and she's like, 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.240 is that we weird for them? And I was like, no, 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.320 it'd be about as weird as me seeing Jojo, Like 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.400 now we're married and we're starting families, Like it would 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.320 not be weird I mean for me in that situation 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.680 at all. I don't know the dynamic necessarily with Nick 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.600 and Raven. I don't think it ended poorly necessarily. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.080 No, it certainly didn't. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.200 And it's not like Natalie is ever going to feel 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.880 weird about it, and Adam certainly is not going because 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:23.680 he's like part of the. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.760 Yeah, Adam, Adam, I think could care less. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.520 I don't even think Adam remembers. 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.400 Yeah. I don't think Adam has any idea how Raven 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.560 season on of The Bachelor ended, Like, I don't think 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.280 he thinks about it at all, or nor does he 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.440 lose sleep on it, because the two of them are happy. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.360 Everybody's happy now and kind of off in your own lanes. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.760 It's I would say, it's even. It would be less 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.440 awkward than even sitting in a room full of exes 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.080 like in real life. I mean, you can make that work, 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:50.760 right if you're. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.000 Hundred percent if your real life exes. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.920 That feels a lot weirder because at least with The Bachelor, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.600 you know that they have only hung out like an 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:05.520 on camera situations and that their dates were really sure 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.600 that it was probably fleeting feeling. Well, I mean, you 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.040 know it's it's oftentimes not fleeting feelings. But in my 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:17.040 case with like crystals, it's like you're so in your 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.840 head about how much you like them, and then you 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:22.840 leave the show for a week and you're like, oh, okay, 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:24.240 so I was wrapped up in things. 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.040 So a lot of there's a lot of that. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.480 And then before we move on from Alan's wedding, I 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.440 do want to say that, like, yeah, it's so exciting 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.240 to see each other, but we often don't know who's 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.440 going to attend these weddings because we don't ask ahead 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.000 of time because it's like, you don't want to be offensive. 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.640 So Ben obviously bent with a lot. Having officiated our wedding, 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.920 you could have assumed that, yes, we were gonna be there. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.600 It'd be weird that somebody officiates someone's wedding and they 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:51.640 don't invite them to their own. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.720 But like with you, was like do I ask him? 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:56.800 With the Raven, I was. 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.560 Like, do I ask her because there are all these 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.840 people like Joe, I wasn't one hundred percent I knew 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.040 Nick because you know, I know that Nick and Alon've 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:10.159 always been so close. But yeah, so the week of 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.159 or you're either finding out who's definitely going to come, 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.239 or you don't find out until you're walking into the 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.119 you know venue, and you're like, oh my. 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.000 God, Yeah, I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.959 you're here. And then the moment's gone too fast, and 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.680 then we wonder will we ever get these were unions again? 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:27.560 I hope so, I hope. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.480 So they're They're meaningful to so many and I know 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.000 they're you know, they're meaningful for you, and it's always 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.160 something I look forward to. These are good people, well 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:37.920 speaking to good people. We do have headlines to get 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.000 to today. The big headline of the week obviously was 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.359 that so much a Bachelor nation got together for this 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.919 incredible ceremony of for Alan and Molly. It was a 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.360 great night. But also we had a big announcement last 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.920 week where Jin and Joey are both appearing on Dancing 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.400 with the Stars. It's a full slate now of dancers 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.800 and celebrities who are going to be on this season, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.119 actually tell me if I'm wrong, because I don't know, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.960 and you are a historian of the Bachelor franchise. Has 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.320 two Bachelor contestants ever been on the same season. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.200 No, they have not been. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:16.879 And we actually have stats about who is more likely 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.879 to be ahead in this competition, Joey or Jen, and 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:28.080 it's definitely Jen. So the women have one the show. 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:33.040 No male contestant from The Bachelor has one. Dancing with 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:37.560 the Stars, the current odds are that if we were 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:42.199 to place bats that Jen will rank second for the 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:47.879 mirror Ball Trophy with nine to two odds. And then 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:53.159 the person who's most notable, who's who Vegas has winning, 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:59.240 is the gymnast, Stephen Natrowski. I don't know how to 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:05.399 say that the gymnast Stephen, and then Joey is in 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.119 sixth place with the odds for this season nine to 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:14.280 one odds, but the averages that usually Bachelor Nation men 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.120 are doomed to finish somewhere in the middle of the pack. 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:22.520 We're thinking Chrys sols Nick and Joe. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:27.359 Grocer show Joe from the past couple of years. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.960 Matt James is on it as well right, oh yeah. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.959 And Matt he ended up in twelve place. 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:37.040 Yeah, okay, so we're hoping for a good appearance out 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:37.560 of them both. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.600 I'm not going to be surprised if Jim's really good 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:39.800 at this. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:40.440 Me too. 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.320 I see like she's going to be really good. 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:43.119 Yeah. 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.240 It almost seems unfair every time they have like a 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:46.920