1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: It's Almost Famous podcast. We are here. It's the off season. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 3: It's a very short off season for the Almost Famous podcast. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 3: We're going to be right back at it breaking down 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelorette, and one of our hopes and goals 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: and also one of our most earnest opinions, is that 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 3: we hope you are so excited for the Golden Bachelorette 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 3: and we want to get you excited for the Golden Bachelorettes. 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: So we're going to end this episode talking about the 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: Golden Bachelorette and its upcoming premiere on September eighteenth. We're punkier. 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: It's Almost Famous podcast keeps our off season shorter. 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: Which I like you do. 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I like off season, but 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 4: I also like in season. 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: It does make it easier to talk to this But 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: like when we had a longer off season, a deeper 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: off season, I like you we got some guests, Yeah, 19 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: we got some guests that like really pulled some some 20 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: good stuff out. So we kind of turned more into 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: just a breakdown podcast, which is fine. 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 5: Kah, because I like interview heavy as well. 23 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, let us know what interviews you want us 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 4: to see, what interviews you want to hear. 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 5: Who we haven't had. 26 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: On a good point, who would you be most interested 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: in hearing from, even if we agree or disagree with 28 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: them as people on the show, it would help us 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: know who you're into. 30 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and also, well you should let them know that 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 4: a lot of the times we don't have control over 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 4: the guests, getting guests who are still under contract. So 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 4: if you're wondering, like why we haven't had you know, 34 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: let's just say Devin. Well, the show is in charge 35 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: about who Devin does and does not talk to, maybe 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 4: not does not talk to, but like they're very going 37 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: to be very picky, and they try to spread it 38 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: out as much as they can. 39 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: They're scared of us, actually that's what they are. 40 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: They're scared that we would get the truth out and 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 3: it would be too hard hitting, and so they're keeping 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: Devin far away from almost famous podcast. 43 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: Actually I'm going to be interest to see when they 44 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: do let Devin speak, and yes, it really is like that, guys, 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: when he is let to speak, sure he could get 46 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: on Instagram and say what things that you know he 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 4: wants to say but if it's anything about the show, 48 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: they're going to tell him to take that. 49 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 5: Down right away, right Yeah. And I don't know. 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: I don't even think he's gonna want He probably doesn't 51 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: want to talk. He probably doesn't want to do interviews 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: right now. 53 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I can't imagine any interview he's going 54 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: to do makes him feel like he's. 55 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 5: He's gonna look good. 56 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: I don't think he can really. Only he can only 57 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: go up. That's what I'm saying. He could only go. 58 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: Then you should come on here. Then. Actually, we had 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: a big weekend. 60 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: We were together this weekend for a very exciting celebration 61 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: of along Gale and his new wife, Molly. Alan was 62 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: the executive producer during our time on the show and 63 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: probably is the best known producer, I would say from 64 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: the show, just because he has a big character, and 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: he's gone on to do other projects post Bachelor World, 66 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: like f Boy Island and Island. 67 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's like some he have some horror movies in 68 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 4: the works, And I think just because he is such 69 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: a character, he kind of garnered a following on social 70 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: media of his own. 71 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 5: It's the Year of Alan. 72 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: If you want to follow him on Instagram, and then 73 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: like he has the food of a lawn. So so 74 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: all of that just makes him he's just he is 75 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: the ultimate character and we love him just in so 76 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: many ways that we can't even describe. 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you love and hate the man when you're with 78 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: him working for him on the show, and then you 79 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: learn to love him a lot. So he was to 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: give some context for me. I think everybody that goes 81 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: on the show that's around long enough has a moment 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 3: with a lin that stands out. 83 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: That's kind of what his thing. For me. 84 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: He was the one that really, I don't want to 85 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: say got me to because it kind of sounds like forced. 86 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: He supported me in my kind of ability to admit, hey, 87 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: I feel unlikable or my self esteem is so low 88 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: on myself that I feel the more people get to 89 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: know me, the less they'll like me, which came out 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: on the show as I feel unlovable. That was a 91 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: four hour conversation with a lot that we had one 92 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: on one, and it was a beautiful conversation for me. 93 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: It was one of the moments that I would say, 94 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: you know, when you're on the show, you never know 95 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: if you can trust alone or not. I think was 96 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 3: kind of the the sentiment, unless. 97 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: You're us trust to put my life eat to your hands. 98 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 3: Such an interesting decision you make, considering now he does 99 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: horror films. But the uh, you know, I think that 100 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: was a conversation that I look back on today and 101 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: has a had a massive impact in my life in 102 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 3: the best of ways. And it was one of the 103 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: first times I felt like somebody sat down and tried 104 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: to get to know me, and then the more they 105 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: got to know me, the less they didn't judge me. 106 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: And he finally was like, you just feel lovable, and 107 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: I was like, I do change everything. So Alan Is 108 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: is a wise counsel, and he is missed on the show, 109 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: I think, and in so many ways. 110 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: Lots of people were dming me when they saw it 111 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 4: was a lawn dwedding that we were at, and they're like, oh, 112 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: the show hasn't been the same since he's left, Like 113 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are aware of, like 114 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: his tenor on the show a lawn to me, Yeah, 115 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: we just had I can't even say it was a 116 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 4: brother sister relationship. 117 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 5: It was a godfather. 118 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 4: And god daughters, a fairy god father, fair god father. 119 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: Yes, what about Alan made you trust truly. 120 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 4: Like giddy, like I would like just giggle and smile 121 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: around him. 122 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 5: And whenever he was not around for you know, say. 123 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 4: It was nighttime on the show and he hadn't made 124 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: his appearance yet, I'd be like. 125 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 5: There's a lot, where's a lot. I need a lot. 126 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: I need my heart and soul needs that man. And 127 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: then he'd walk in the room and I basically would 128 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: just like. 129 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: Tomple him feels unhealthy, and I'd. 130 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: Always like talk to him with my hands on his 131 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 4: beard and just like look in his eyes, and I 132 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 4: just fully put my trust in him. He always had 133 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: my best interests at heart at a macro level, I felt, 134 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 4: but he knew that he was going to have to 135 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: put me through some small, smaller situations that I may 136 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 4: not look good or I may have been really upset by. 137 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, he was always 138 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: telling me, even if this feels that's the best word 139 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 4: I can use, You're gonna turn out great in the end, okay. 140 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 4: And I think looking back on it, it was more 141 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: of like you need those moments where you look like 142 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 4: you don't know what you're doing, that you look really 143 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 4: dumb to be like almost related like these are true 144 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: to you. These characteristics are true to you, and it's 145 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 4: going to make you so much more human in the end, 146 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: and looking back on the experience so far removed, I 147 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: see exactly what he's talking about. Some of my worst 148 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: looking moments on the show. I think, like when you 149 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: add it with like all the moments. 150 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: Together, like just made me a better character. 151 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: And he was absolutely right in the sense that I 152 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: was really dumb at times, but then at the end 153 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: of the day, look go what my life turned into. 154 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: He gets to know the characters very well, which is 155 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: a testament to his job. 156 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 5: Yes, his storytelling is unbelievable. 157 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: You know. 158 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: He was the efficient at you and Jared's wedding. Yeah, 159 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: your wedding, which was really beautiful. So, yes, had a 160 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: huge impact in your life. 161 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 162 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: There are other Bachelor contestants, some of which weren't even there, 163 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: that he's had massive impacts in their lives. But the 164 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: ones that were there where Nick and Natalie, We had Aaron, 165 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: Adam and Raven, You and Jared. There was obviously Jessica 166 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: and myself, Ari and Lauren Lyon Thurston. Katie Thurston was there, JP, 167 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: Chris Harrison and his wife Lauren, who else, Scletar who 168 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: was a producer on the show back in the day, Bennett, 169 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: who was still on the. 170 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: Show as a producer, was there. A couple of other producers. 171 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: C Ohn know is Nicole's not there anymore? And then 172 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: Peter Guice who also is not there anymore. So I 173 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: think Bennett is the only one that was Oh Jana too. 174 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that are now working for 175 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: Alan that used to work on the Bachelor franchise. I 176 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: know we're forgetting somebody that was there from the Bachelor World. 177 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: Let me just review the picture real quick. 178 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: Caitlyn was supposed to be there, she couldn't. 179 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure there was a lot that were supposed to 180 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: be there that weren't. 181 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 4: There too, which interesting. Caitlin and Tasha both the ones 182 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 4: that didn't show up, well, that. 183 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: Just feels sad that they weren't. But Oh Joe and 184 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: Serena were there. That's it. 185 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: We named them all, so we got through everybody there. 186 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: It was a beautiful wedding we thought it would be. 187 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: Jessica explained it last night at dinner. I think in 188 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: a really great way. I said, Jessica, what do you 189 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: think of the wedding? She's like, it was incredible, it 190 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: was beautiful, it was heart like felt, she was. I 191 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: was just surprised because I had prepared for it to 192 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: be a lot less wedding e than it was. It 193 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: was a wedding, I thought, and I agreed with her. 194 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: I thought it'd be a little more eccentric. I thought 195 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: they would find even weirder things to do. Yes, the 196 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: whole ceremony, there were plenty of weird things, sure, but 197 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: it was a very beautiful wedding. Like it was a 198 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: great celebration of the two of them, Molly and Alan. 199 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: Molly is a big time actress, has been in a 200 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: lot of. 201 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 5: Different things, most notably Castle. 202 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, most notably Castle. Now the two of them are 203 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: working together on a few different projects and have kind 204 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: of gone to the development side of things together and 205 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: they've done some incredible will work within that realm. But 206 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: Molly is uh, well, looked stunning. Everybody I hear from 207 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: on Instagram or is telling me that Molly just looked beautiful, 208 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: and she did. 209 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: We don't have any pictures of her ethereal dress from 210 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 4: the ceremony. She decided not to wear white, which I 211 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 4: think made sense for her just to have an offbeat, 212 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: non traditional wedding dress. 213 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 5: Because we weren't allowed to take pictures during the ceremony. 214 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: I don't know if that there's any pictures out there 215 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: of that, but it was so pretty. 216 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 5: I'm sure they will be eventually. And then James Gunn 217 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 5: the show of DC Comics kind of that was the 218 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 5: head of Easy Comics. 219 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: Someone Is was the efficient and that's because they met 220 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 4: for the first time at his house. 221 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was also the producer director on Guardians 222 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: of the Galaxy. So James Gunn's a big name, kind 223 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: of a household name. He did do the ceremony. There 224 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 3: were other stars there, some of which I don't know. 225 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 2: The name of. 226 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: Beth Green, Matthew Lillard. 227 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: Nathan Fillion was there. Nathan Fillions, if you looked him up, 228 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: you would know him for so many things. 229 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 2: He was in. 230 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: Rookie and Castle, Firefly, the Suicide Squad. He's like one 231 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: of those actors that is in everything and you just 232 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: like don't. 233 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: Know his name. 234 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: Is he the one that was in the Dark Knight? Probably, Yeah, 235 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 4: there was in the Dark Knight. And then Chris Chris 236 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 4: Sullivan is the one from This Is Us. What else 237 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: did I want to mention from Oh yeah, the funny 238 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: part where a lawn had I think along wrote this 239 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 4: song about a boy in peanuts and going to hell. 240 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: There's a real Peanuts Golden Boy Peanuts. 241 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 5: Golden Boy Peanuts. Yeah, I mean it's a peanut brand. 242 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 243 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: Okay, So he like wrote a song and then they 244 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: gave us these pamphlets to not open until the song 245 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: was supposed to be performed. And guys, we all sang 246 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: a song that we had never heard before. So just 247 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: imagine people trying to come up with and like the 248 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 4: beat in the rhythm of a song that they've never heard, 249 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: we all saying the lyrics together. 250 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 5: It was the most alaw on moment ever. 251 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: Alan did not come up with that song. 252 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 5: Just let you know, Oh really, who did. 253 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: The Mountain Goats his favorite band from forever ago. It's 254 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: a Mountain Goats song, Golden Boy Peanuts, and it's probably 255 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: his favorite Mountain Goats song. 256 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: But it's it is. You can listen to it. 257 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: It's by the Mountain Goats called Golden Boy. 258 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 4: Well, anyway, you guys, it was a great wedding, and 259 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: it to us was a bachelor family wedding because to me, 260 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: Alan is the head wizard and always will be of 261 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: the Bachelor franchise. And he made that Golden era that 262 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 4: a lot of people refer to from like two thousand 263 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: and yeah, Like you know, he started, I want to 264 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: say he started with Emily Maner's season through he left 265 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: where about before Hannah season. Hannah season was the first 266 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 4: one with Alalon. 267 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 268 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: Final story from the wedding, A couple of things, just 269 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: a quick breakdown. People wondered and asked us whether what 270 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: is it like to get together again? 271 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: Is it awkward? Is it weird? Never weird? Never awkward. 272 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure you know there's disagreements amongst the different some 273 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: of the different people. I don't know them necessarily, but 274 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: everybody gets along really well. It's really exciting to be 275 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: with this group. We get so excited and it's it's 276 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 3: interesting to me how you know. At first these were 277 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: big parties, big celebration. This was a big party in celebration. 278 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: But now a lot of the conversation aers found kids. 279 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: Things have taken a massive step into families and kind 280 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: of children. A lot of the people they're having children, 281 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: are getting married and you know, hoping to have a 282 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 3: family one day of some kind and so that was 283 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: a big conversation. For a lot of it is what 284 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: are you doing with your kids and how are your 285 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: kids doing? And then my favorite story from the whole 286 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: night is they served all different types of Asian cuisine 287 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: during this ceremony. One of it was rice noodles. Ashley 288 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 3: grabbed the bowl of rice noodles. You can check my 289 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: instagram right now for the exact picture. She went to 290 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: scoop out her rice noodles and they went all over 291 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: her chest. It was impressive just how much she just 292 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: got out of the bowl onto her body, and then 293 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: just in good old Ashley fashion. 294 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: She picks it off and throws it right back into 295 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: the shared bowl. 296 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: I know, I didn't even didn't even dawn on me. 297 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: It's actually I feel like, in Ashley fashion, it would 298 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: go right in my mouth. 299 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: But didn't do that either. 300 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: As far as the drama that happens at these things there, 301 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: this wasn't dramatic, but it was a tidbit. It was 302 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 4: the first time Raven and Nick had seen each other 303 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: since the ending of their season. 304 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: You know, I told Jessica that night, I said, you know, 305 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: Raven was number two on Nick season, and she goes 306 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: no way and say they make no sense, and she's like, 307 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: is that we weird for them? And I was like, no, 308 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: it'd be about as weird as me seeing Jojo, Like 309 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: now we're married and we're starting families, Like it would 310 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: not be weird I mean for me in that situation 311 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: at all. I don't know the dynamic necessarily with Nick 312 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: and Raven. I don't think it ended poorly necessarily. 313 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 5: No, it certainly didn't. 314 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 4: And it's not like Natalie is ever going to feel 315 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: weird about it, and Adam certainly is not going because 316 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 4: he's like part of the. 317 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Adam, Adam, I think could care less. 318 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 5: I don't even think Adam remembers. 319 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think Adam has any idea how Raven 320 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: season on of The Bachelor ended, Like, I don't think 321 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: he thinks about it at all, or nor does he 322 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: lose sleep on it, because the two of them are happy. 323 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: Everybody's happy now and kind of off in your own lanes. 324 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: It's I would say, it's even. It would be less 325 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: awkward than even sitting in a room full of exes 326 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: like in real life. I mean, you can make that work, 327 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: right if you're. 328 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 5: Hundred percent if your real life exes. 329 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: That feels a lot weirder because at least with The Bachelor, 330 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: you know that they have only hung out like an 331 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: on camera situations and that their dates were really sure 332 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: that it was probably fleeting feeling. Well, I mean, you 333 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 4: know it's it's oftentimes not fleeting feelings. But in my 334 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: case with like crystals, it's like you're so in your 335 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: head about how much you like them, and then you 336 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: leave the show for a week and you're like, oh, okay, 337 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: so I was wrapped up in things. 338 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 5: So a lot of there's a lot of that. 339 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: And then before we move on from Alan's wedding, I 340 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: do want to say that, like, yeah, it's so exciting 341 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: to see each other, but we often don't know who's 342 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: going to attend these weddings because we don't ask ahead 343 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: of time because it's like, you don't want to be offensive. 344 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: So Ben obviously bent with a lot. Having officiated our wedding, 345 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 4: you could have assumed that, yes, we were gonna be there. 346 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: It'd be weird that somebody officiates someone's wedding and they 347 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: don't invite them to their own. 348 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 5: But like with you, was like do I ask him? 349 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 5: With the Raven, I was. 350 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 4: Like, do I ask her because there are all these 351 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: people like Joe, I wasn't one hundred percent I knew 352 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: Nick because you know, I know that Nick and Alon've 353 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 4: always been so close. But yeah, so the week of 354 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 4: or you're either finding out who's definitely going to come, 355 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 4: or you don't find out until you're walking into the 356 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: you know venue, and you're like, oh my. 357 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: God, Yeah, I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad 358 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 5: you're here. And then the moment's gone too fast, and 359 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 5: then we wonder will we ever get these were unions again? 360 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope. 361 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: So they're They're meaningful to so many and I know 362 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: they're you know, they're meaningful for you, and it's always 363 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 3: something I look forward to. These are good people, well 364 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: speaking to good people. We do have headlines to get 365 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: to today. The big headline of the week obviously was 366 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: that so much a Bachelor nation got together for this 367 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 3: incredible ceremony of for Alan and Molly. It was a 368 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 3: great night. But also we had a big announcement last 369 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: week where Jin and Joey are both appearing on Dancing 370 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 3: with the Stars. It's a full slate now of dancers 371 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: and celebrities who are going to be on this season, 372 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: actually tell me if I'm wrong, because I don't know, 373 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: and you are a historian of the Bachelor franchise. Has 374 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: two Bachelor contestants ever been on the same season. 375 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 5: No, they have not been. 376 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: And we actually have stats about who is more likely 377 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 4: to be ahead in this competition, Joey or Jen, and 378 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: it's definitely Jen. So the women have one the show. 379 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: No male contestant from The Bachelor has one. Dancing with 380 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: the Stars, the current odds are that if we were 381 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 4: to place bats that Jen will rank second for the 382 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 4: mirror Ball Trophy with nine to two odds. And then 383 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 4: the person who's most notable, who's who Vegas has winning, 384 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 4: is the gymnast, Stephen Natrowski. I don't know how to 385 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 4: say that the gymnast Stephen, and then Joey is in 386 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 4: sixth place with the odds for this season nine to 387 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: one odds, but the averages that usually Bachelor Nation men 388 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 4: are doomed to finish somewhere in the middle of the pack. 389 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: We're thinking Chrys sols Nick and Joe. 390 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 5: Grocer show Joe from the past couple of years. 391 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: Matt James is on it as well right, oh yeah. 392 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 5: And Matt he ended up in twelve place. 393 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so we're hoping for a good appearance out 394 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: of them both. 395 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be surprised if Jim's really good 396 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: at this. 397 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 4: Me too. 398 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 5: I see like she's going to be really good. 399 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 400 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: It almost seems unfair every time they have like a 401 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: gymnast on and like, of course they're going to be 402 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: a good dancer. Yeah, they can hold themselves up by 403 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: their peinky toes. They can spin on their pinky toes too. Okay, 404 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 3: big headline here, Ashley, I want to hear how you 405 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: feel about it. Maria from Joey's season of The Bachelor 406 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: confirm she's not going on Bachelor in Paradise. This is 407 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: shocking to me, Ashley, and. 408 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 4: I don't believe it, Okay, Okay, well sometime I don't 409 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: believe it. I think that like she's probably thinking, I 410 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 4: don't want to go on Bachelor in Paradise, Like I can't. 411 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 4: I don't like dealing with this drama because she got 412 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 4: sucked into the drama of this week after it was 413 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: said on after the final Rows that she followed Devon 414 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: and then like some people were speculating that she was 415 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: the reason that Jen and Devon split and that's obviously 416 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: not the case. But I think she just doesn't like 417 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: getting caught up in this stuff. And she was controversial 418 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: during her season, but I think also beloved Money, yeah, 419 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: and mostly beloved, So. 420 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 5: I don't know. 421 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: I think that Money can talk, and if she doesn't 422 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 4: you Paradise, then it's like she just seems to have 423 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 4: the personality that is going to want to be on TV. 424 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 5: And if she. 425 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: Doesn't say it's to Paradise, she's kind of saying I 426 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: may never be on TV again. And because she was 427 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: mostly beloved, I just feel like. 428 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 5: Why would she not. I don't know, I don't, I 429 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 5: don't know. And money and Money talks well. 430 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: But Paradise is also I think, such a good environment 431 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: for her. It feels like Paradise fits her where you 432 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: do get not that she needs a redemption story, but 433 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: like she you to know her better. You'll get to 434 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: see her date and who she's actually into and kind 435 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: of what she's all about. And I thought she would 436 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: be kind of a hot commodity on the beach this year. 437 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 4: Well, it seems like the guys are definitely interested because 438 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 4: not only follow but we heard about the sam sam 439 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 4: n sam. 440 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: M sam m. What did he do? I don't know 441 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: if I know this. 442 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: He was the one who told Jen on that group 443 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: date that he was thinking that the bachelorette was. 444 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 5: Gonna be Maria and that's like why he signed up. 445 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's right, goodness, gracious, well, shocking news that 446 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: she's saying she's not going on the beach, like you said, 447 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: you'll believe it when you see it. 448 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 4: There's a lot of time before they start really casting 449 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: and filming, Like we're talking if we're on the regular schedule, 450 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: if we're gonna get right back on the regular schedule 451 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: and film Paradise in June. Yeah, they have until she 452 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 4: has until May to think this, think about this, and 453 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 4: she also has until May to feel her fame died down. 454 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about her being a attention hood 455 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: like I would say the same thing about myself. 456 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: Back in the day. 457 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: I know many people who come off the show and 458 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: they're like, no, I'm good with where I'm at, like 459 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: it feels like things are clicking, and then four months, 460 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 3: five months later they're like, like we talked about with 461 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: Devin last week, like all of a sudden This kind 462 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: of like you close your eyes and you open it 463 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: and nobody's calling you. You're not getting ay deals, you're 464 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: not getting the free dinners like you were, Hotels aren't 465 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: hitting you up to stay there for free and travel 466 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: for them, and you're like, wait, I need to go 467 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 3: back on Paradise. 468 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: I mean I think we've seen many. I mean look at. 469 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: Dean, like, I think I was one of Deans when 470 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: he met his now wife, was I just wanted I 471 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: need to get back out there again. 472 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was like, oh, you know what, the 473 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 5: bank accounts a little low. 474 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he just did it. 475 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: We have another headline about Jess how did you say 476 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 4: You're gor Rid? And then Kylie Russell, two girls that 477 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: after coming off Paradise last season, they were like absolutely 478 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 4: not doing it again. They had like a party that 479 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: they were that their finale had aired. And now if 480 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: when you read this interview, they say that they're both 481 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 4: pretty much down to do Paradise again. 482 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 483 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: The headline is this Jess and Kylie reveal if they 484 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 3: would go on Paradise again and also who they'd want 485 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: to see there. I always think that's a fun question 486 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: to ask, what kind of hints at who's been talking 487 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: to who. 488 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: They don't have any fun answer to that because they 489 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 4: say that because they went in to last season kind 490 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: of having blinders on and being very focused on the 491 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 4: guys that they ended up with. You know, Kylie was 492 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 4: engaged to Avan that they both want to go into 493 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: Paradise this time. If they are asked with a more 494 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: open mind, I. 495 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: Think it would be a great decision. 496 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: I think Paradise sounds like so much fun if you 497 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: are single and you're coming off the show and you've 498 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 3: given yourself a break from the cameras and you're living 499 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: your best life. I think Paradise is a great choice 500 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 3: for so many to go back on again, and even 501 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 3: those who had a rough go on the show. I 502 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: think in the samms, even like the people that really 503 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: like didn't have a great time on the big show, 504 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: typically they go on Paradise and there is a redemption 505 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: story for them, and that's always something that we like 506 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: to watch here, something to celebrate here. And oftentimes those 507 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 3: people who have the redemption story, you end up finding 508 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: somebody really great on during their time on the beach. 509 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: Now actually kind of close out this headlines, I don't 510 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: know if you know or not. No, I'm more curious myself. 511 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: Do you know where they're deciding to film Paradise, because 512 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: obviously it's not going to be at the same mansion of. 513 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 5: The I don't know, so hopefully we'll find that soon. 514 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure you could start to text and find out 515 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 3: so that we can start getting people excited now. Actually, 516 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: final little segment of this show. Obviously we talked about 517 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelorette. It's airing September eighteenth. The guys I 518 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 3: continue to see on commercials. I continue to see their 519 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: bios come out. We continue to learn more about who 520 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: they are as people we see little clips of the show. 521 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: In general, I think this cast of men will make 522 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: GEN seasons cast of men look terrible, because not that 523 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: they need any help with that, but these dudes I 524 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: think are really well prepared for this experience. I was 525 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: nervous about the casting for The Golden Bachelorette, but it 526 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: feels like the department spent. 527 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: A little more time on. 528 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 3: These guys than they did for GEN season. I could 529 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 3: now be more excited to see Jones's journey unfold on 530 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 3: national television. I'll stop there because I have some closing thoughts. 531 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 4: Okay, well, so our friend Lindsay Lyles, who is also 532 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: a Bachelor producer, she got an Emmy nomination, didn't win, 533 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: but Emmy nomination for her casting of The Golden Bachelor. 534 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 5: So that was like the first. 535 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 4: Time that the show has gotten a nomination in that area, 536 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: or at least it has for a very long time. 537 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 4: So yes, maybe they are putting a little bit more 538 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 4: effort into the casting of Golden Hopefully this one will 539 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 4: be just as good. But I have to say the 540 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: casting for of Kelsey's dad, which I know I bring 541 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 4: up Kelsey's dad Mark a lot, but the way that 542 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: he was smiling in the audience of the finale last week, 543 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: and the way that Joan was smiling when they were 544 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 4: talking about him, maybe the best cast was the easiest cast. Yeah, 545 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: I think that they might be. 546 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: That'd be awesome, that would be so amazing. 547 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 3: I think the show is hitting a good stride when 548 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: it comes to the Golden Show. 549 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: Now. 550 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: My honest opinion is this, I had a lot of 551 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 3: high hopes. Obviously, it was a different time when The 552 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor was coming out, because I was like, I 553 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: want to be a part of it. I still do 554 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: love to be, but I've pretty much came to terms 555 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: that I will have no part of it ever, and 556 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: that's okay. I'll just talk about it on this show. 557 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: I wanted to be a big fan of the show. 558 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: I really loved watching The Golden Bachelor. I did think 559 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: the ending, especially of the show. 560 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: Kind of threw me off. It made me lose. 561 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: Trust in this Golden show. It made me confused at 562 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 3: the Golden Show. It made it almost feel like to me, 563 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 3: they were putting so much of their eggs in this 564 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: golden basket and it was such a success that the 565 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: show would find a way to ruin itself very quickly. 566 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: And I think they were close. 567 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 3: However, I want to and I'm asking all the almost 568 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: famous listeners too, to start over, because I think they 569 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 3: were getting their feet underneath them for the Golden Bachelor. 570 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 3: I think they were trying to understand how it would 571 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: look and how it would operate. I don't think it 572 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: was probably done perfectly, and I do think they're prepared 573 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: better for the Golden Bachelorette show, and I am excited 574 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: to watch it. I am just as excited to watch 575 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: Joan's journey because I think Joan is fantastic. I think 576 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: she is an incredible choice for the Golden Bachelorette. I've 577 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: gotten to know Joan, I've gotten a message with Joan. 578 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: She is sweet, she's encouraging, she is supportive, she's obviously 579 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: a family person. She's beautiful, and she's wonderful. And I 580 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: have high hopes that Joan is going to be kind 581 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: of the foundational piece to wear this Golden Show goes 582 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 3: from here on out. Not that Gary wasn't. I'm not 583 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: saying Gary wasn't, but I do think Gary's story now 584 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: is a little bit banished, tarnished based on all the 585 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: stuff that happened. Yeah, and I think Joan is a fresh, new, 586 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: good start for the show. 587 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 5: Okay, I totally agree. 588 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 4: There's like nothing about Joan that we know so far 589 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 4: that makes her at all unlikable. 590 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: She's just goodness, gracious nod. 591 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 5: She just seems like goodness. So I'm excited to see her. 592 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: She's going to be a star. She should be a star. 593 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 594 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: And guys, if you if you think that Ben's his 595 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 4: predictions about the guys are good, you know, his off 596 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: the cuff comments about judging them based on just their pictures. 597 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 5: If you think that's good. You know Jared Freed has 598 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 5: you be you know Jared Freed, Yeah, the comedian, comedian. 599 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did this on his Instagram today. I think 600 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 4: this is his Yeah, his first impressions of these guys 601 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 4: absolutely hilarious. 602 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 5: You've got to go check it out. 603 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: Does he find them as attractive, like in good looking 604 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: as I did? Yeah? Yeah, they're like studs. 605 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: Like all these guys for some reason, took model pictures 606 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: where when they do the Bachelorette show, all the guys 607 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: look like they're telling taking their sixth grade elementary school 608 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: like picks. And it's ridiculous that they like they did 609 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: up these guys put them in the leather jackets. There's 610 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: no way that many loather jackets are owned by this 611 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 3: many men. 612 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, go listen to Jared. 613 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: But it's just absolutely ridiculous how they made these men 614 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 4: the photo shoots, like the fashion and the background is 615 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: just so. 616 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: Much better than the big Ass and the regular Bachelorette. 617 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: It's a little offensive, quite honestly, I don't know where 618 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: I'm treating these elderly people so kindly. 619 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: Anyways, we're pumped for it. It's going to be a great. 620 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: Season and make sure you tune in as we get 621 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: closer and closer to a brand new season within the franchise. 622 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: The Golden Bachelorett air September eighteenth on ABC. But until 623 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: next time, where we talk more kind of off season 624 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: topics and hopefully have some really cool interviews and bring 625 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: some good content your way. 626 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: I've been Ben, I've been Ashley. 627 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 5: Love you Bye. 628 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 629 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.