1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. How are you welcome? 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: It's the John Cobelt Show almost forgot my own name. 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: We're right every day from one until four o'clock and 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: then after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. So if you miss anything, it's make 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: makeup time. After four you can listen to the podcast, 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: same as the radio show. Yesterday, at this time, we 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: talked with Joe Khalil from News Nation and we're going 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: to speak with him again. He is covering the end 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: of the shutdown, the path to the end, and the 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: aftermath and the recriminations, and it seems like everybody on 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: the Democrat side is a really angry, just pissed off 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: at everybody else. Let's talk with Joe Khalil, News Nation, 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Cable News Network. Joe, how are you hey? 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Good? How you doing? 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm all right? Well, he seems angry with each other 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: on the Democratic side. What's going on? 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely some frustration there. And I think what's 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: going on is, you know, the whole shutdown fight for 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: Democrats was about one key issue it was about healthcare 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: subsidies and getting those extended because they expire at the 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: end of the year. Democrats did not get that, and 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: so the eight Senate Democrats who voted to reopen the 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: government vote for what we call a c R a 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: funding bill. You know, they're getting a lot of flack 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 2: today and yesterday, as is Leader Chuck Schumer. And Schumer, mind, 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: you didn't even vote for this thing, but he is 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: still sort of getting flack for it because a lot 30 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: of folks think, well, he probably behind the scenes blessed it, 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: and even if he didn't, it shows, you know, in 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: the view of some Democrats, he's not an effective leader 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: if he couldn't keep those eight moderate Democrats from up 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: the ranks and voting with Republicans. So I think it 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: just speaks to there's ben frustration already leading up to 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: this shutdown with the leadership of the party, with Democratic leadership. 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: They wanted to have this fight, to have the fight 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: on healthcare, and the vast majority of Democrats sort of 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: stayed together. It was only these eight, although I imagined behind 40 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: the scenes there were probably some more who didn't want 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: to take the risky vote. But yeah, there's some frustrations 42 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: still boiling over in the fact that they feel like, 43 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: you know, perhaps they let some of their voter base 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: down in this case. 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they may have provided cover for other 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Democrats because I thought it amusing that it was exactly eight. 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: They needed eight Democrats to switch sides, and they got 48 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: exactly eight, And I'm thinking that probably was another eight 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: and then another eight behind that, because they were all 50 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: getting the same calls and criticism, whether it was about 51 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: the airline problems or the food stamp problems. It's not 52 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: like the complaints only went to these eight senators, correct. 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: And you know, it's also not a coincidence that of 54 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 2: these eight senators, you've got i think two or three 55 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: retiring and the rests not up for reelection. In twenty 56 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: twenty six, in Virginia where federal workers there, it's a 57 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: huge population, you had only one senator who voted for this, 58 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: which was Tim Kaine, and the other one who just 59 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 2: happens to be up in twenty six, Mark Warner, did 60 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: not vote for this bill to reopen a government. Yea, 61 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: it just sort of shows you there the split dynamic. 62 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think there's some of that going on there, 63 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: and I believe Senator Tim Kaine told us expressly there 64 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: were a few no votes who came up to us 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: yes votes afterward and said thank you for voting yes 66 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: on this. 67 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: So a lot of this is worked out behind the 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: scenes as far as who's going to take the hit, 69 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: who can afford to take the hit because they don't 70 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: have a reelection campaigning up for several years. 71 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: That's fair, Yeah, that's fair. 72 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean there's really nothing that Chuck Schumer 73 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: can do if there's eight senators who don't want to 74 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: vote his way. I mean, I don't I don't really 75 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: understand all the because they were angry at him earlier 76 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: in the year for not shutting the government down. Then 77 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: he shuts the government down. But this is all the energy, 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: all the noise here is coming from progressive senators. And 79 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: I heard Bernie Sanders say today, well, we only had 80 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: eight or nine, So you know, it's eight or nine 81 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: senators making a lot of noise because the rest of 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: the Democrats aren't as progressive as they are. 83 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: You know, I think again, I think it goes beyond 84 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: the shutdown of the frustrations with Chef Schumer. I think, 85 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: you know, part of the reason you started to see 86 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: the frustration and the first go around when he avoided 87 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: a government shutdown altogether, there were progressives I think in 88 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: the base who just think, you know what, we need 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: somebody who's a new blood. He's not in touch with 90 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: the base voters of the party. You know, whether you 91 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: love mom Donnie or you hate Mom Donnie. That was 92 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: another example. He was continually asked whether he was going 93 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: to endorse the guy. He did not, And you know, 94 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: so there are there's a progressive element of the of 95 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party that just doesn't think that Chuck Schumer is. 96 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Up to meeting the moment right now. 97 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: They're seeing unprecedented you know, uh from from the Trump 98 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: administration two point zero what what these voters see as overreach, 99 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: and what they want to see is a Senate leader 100 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: that you know, stands firm against that and and sort 101 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: of has uh, maybe a better message capacity than Schumer does. 102 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: I mean, these are things that I've heard from, you know, 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: the more progressive wings of the party and whether it's 104 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: voter bases or whether it's actual elected members. So this 105 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: shutdown site, you know, Schumer, I think objectively, was in 106 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: a pretty tough spot politically, right so he he led 107 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: the shutdown, and he voted against reopening, and he made 108 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: the arguments that everyone else is making about healthcare, and 109 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: yet still he is getting the bulk of the blame. 110 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: There's more. There's more beef with Schumer from these progressoress 111 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: who voted with them this time than there is for 112 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: the eight who actually voted with Republicans. And I think 113 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: the reason is, again they think if he were a 114 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: more effective leader, he could have kept the conference together, 115 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 2: and you know, they prevented the eight people from voting 116 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: against Democratic side, and a speaker Pelosi sort of had 117 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: that iron fift, you know, over her conference. And the 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: other thing is if it's true that maybe he sort 119 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: of blessed this but didn't want to have his hands 120 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 2: on it, which is what a lot of people also think, 121 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: then that's another reason that these voters might take issue 122 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: with him. 123 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: Do any of these senators and political insiders do they 124 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: ever think about how it's affecting normal people, regular people 125 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: in terms of food stamps or the airport problems. Do 126 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: they have any concerned for how we all feel out 127 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: here or is it just their own internal bickering? 128 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: You know, I think that, I mean, I think there 129 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: is a recognition a reality that life is painful for 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: people during a shutdown. You know, I mean, I genuinely do. 131 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: I know people are cynical about politics, and they should be, 132 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: and a lot of our lawmakers do things that we 133 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: wish they didn't, or their motivations or perverse a little bit. 134 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: One hundred percent correct, yes, but I do think that 135 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: it has an impact when lots of people are calling 136 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: the offices and saying, you know, look, it's going to 137 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: be my third paycheck that I'm not going to get. 138 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm a federal worker, and you know, the furloughs and 139 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: the air traffic control stuff. I think that's true. I 140 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: think that the tough part for this group that we're 141 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: talking about, these Democrats, is you know, people's healthcare premiums 142 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: are going to go up. Objectively, that is a fact 143 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: I know personally. I My family got a letter too 144 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: that talked about healthcare increases. You know, we've got to 145 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: supplement mental health care plan that's on the exchange. So 146 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: I get that too. That you know, okay, you want 147 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: to They wanted to fight for this, and they wanted 148 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: an outcome, and their outcome they wanted was, let's you know, 149 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: extend these subsidies, make sure people's premiums don't go up. 150 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: So there it's a really tough balancing act, right, like 151 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: do you do you exert pain on one portion of 152 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: the population to help health care costs and another part 153 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: portion of the population. It's it's a very tough balancing act. 154 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: And when you're the party that's shutting it down, which 155 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: in this case, despite what some of them have said, 156 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: was the Democratic Party this time around with their votes, 157 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: that's always the delicate dance that you've got to do. 158 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: It was Republicans the previous two times and Democrats this 159 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: time around. So it's a you know, shutdowns are very 160 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: complicated for that reason. 161 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: Joe, thanks very much for coming on, great reporting, Really 162 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: appreciate so much. 163 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: Always going to be with you, all right. 164 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Joe Khalil from News Nation, the cable TV News News network, 165 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: very good network too, and you you could tell Joe 166 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: Khalil excellent reporter there. All right, We've got more on 167 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: this because the airport situation is getting worse each day 168 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: this week, not better, because the shutdown hasn't officially been 169 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: passed through both the House and the Senate, and Trump 170 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: hasn't signed it. Yet in the meantime, you have the 171 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: same pressures on the system, and we'll discuss that coming 172 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: up next. 173 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 174 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: six forty. 175 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: We just talked with Joe Khalil from News Nation, the 176 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: cable news network on the post. Well, the shutdown's not 177 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: over yet, but the path is clearly there. The build 178 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: to reopen. The government pass the Senate sixty forty, it's 179 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: going to the House, they'll pass it. I'll go to Trump. 180 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: Trump will sign it. But still what you have is 181 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: airline you have cancelations by the thousands, and that's going 182 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: to go on for quite a few days. In fact, 183 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: by Friday, it's going to be ten percent of all 184 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: the flights will be canceled. Now, the good news, having 185 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: gone through this over the weekend is they let you 186 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: know in advance by a few days, and they're trying 187 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: to For example, I heard if they have a route 188 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: where normally they take seven thirty seven planes, they will 189 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: get a wide body plane and try to get the 190 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: passengers from two flights into one plane. They have a 191 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: lot of extra wide body planes sitting around because they 192 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: use them for the overseas flight flights to Europe and 193 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: other places. And now because it's winter times, approaching flights 194 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: overseas are way down. They have a lot of planes 195 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: not being used, so they're putting those planes in service 196 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: and they're consolidating from several flights to see if they can, 197 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, lighten the disruption. A byproduct of when you 198 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: change the schedule that rapidly is now you have a 199 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: lot of pilots and a lot of flight attendants that 200 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,359 Speaker 1: are in the wrong place. You know, it's carefully calibrated. 201 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: If you notice, like I came home from a flight 202 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: to Philly at lax on Sunday night, and I noticed 203 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: there was a pilot and there were pilots and flight 204 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: attendants ready to board my plane after the passengers got off. Well, 205 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: they were going to fly the plane back to Philly 206 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: for the Red Eye. Now, if for some reason that 207 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: flight is canceled, then these pilots and these flight attendants 208 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: are now in the wrong city because they're supposed to 209 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: end up in Philly right and somewhere in a day 210 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: or two, they're supposed to get back on a plane 211 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: leaving Philly to go somewhere else. And you know, it's 212 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: amazing any of this works. It does work most of 213 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: the time. It's actually shocking because when you have thousands 214 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: of flights taking off every day, and not only planes 215 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: have to be in a certain place, but you have 216 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: to have the stat the pilots and the flight attendant 217 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: personnel in the same place. You'd see the headache it becomes. 218 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: And when they finally open the government officially, it's still 219 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: going to take days to get back in order, and 220 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: they're hoping to get it all in place before the 221 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: holiday weekend, and so they have two weeks to get 222 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: that back in order. Here's another major issue, and a 223 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: lot of these problems are many years in the making, 224 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: and nobody took care of them. For all the money 225 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: we waste on illegal aliens and foreign governments. Somehow we 226 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: are short, no kidding, three thousand air traffic controllers. We 227 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: only have fourteen thousand. That's a big percentage. We should 228 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: have seventeen thousand. We have fourteen thousand. And this is 229 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: like the numbers we gave you on the LAPD yesterday. 230 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: So what happens. The current traffic controllers work long hours, 231 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: stressful schedules, no days off, a lot of overtime pay. 232 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: Why because the FA was neglected for many years by 233 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: multiple administrations, multiple congresses. Well, why they spend the money 234 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: on all the garbage and nonsense, you know, on the 235 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: on the illegal aliens and the foreign governments and some 236 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: of the stupidest wars imaginable. That money gets shoveled out 237 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: literally by the trillions. And then the basic basic stuff 238 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: we need, like our traffic controllers. They're not hired, they're 239 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: not trained. It takes two or three years to train them, 240 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: and and nobody's ready. Now oh oh, by the way, Yeah, 241 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: shutting down the world over COVID was an incredibly stupid 242 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: idea because a lot of pilot it's retired and or resigned. 243 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: You had a lot of air traffic controllers retire and resigned, 244 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: and we never made up for that boondoggle. Well now 245 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: we got a second one. They shut down the government 246 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: for really no reason, and now it's going to take 247 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: years to dig out of that because more more air 248 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: traffic controllers resigned or retired. I mean, I mean, they 249 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: just they're just stupid people, and they make especially the 250 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: legislative congress people and the senators, they make stupid, emotional, 251 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: impulsive decisions based on who's screaming at them at any 252 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: given moment, and all these activists and these progressive nut 253 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: jobs the Senate, according to Bernie Sanders, of all people, 254 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: I heard him say it, because we only have eight 255 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: or nine progressives in the Senate, but they've been calling 256 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: the shots. They've been the ones demanding that we have 257 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: a shutdown. And if you're a relatively normal Democrat like 258 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer, you don't want to face AOC in a primary. 259 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: So she's screaming for a shutdown and protect your sorry, 260 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: old wrinkled hide. You decide to lead everybody into the shutdown, 261 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: and it backfired because Trump doesn't give in. He's not 262 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: going to give this crowd you think he's gonna give 263 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: the progressives a win. He doesn't feel pain. People scream 264 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: at him and call him names all day and night 265 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: for the last eleven years. He is a given. You 266 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: got to know your enemy, you got to know who 267 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: you're fighting against. It's really kind of stupid to expect 268 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: that he would he would, he'd be the one to collapse. 269 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: And the one issue they have here that they that 270 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: they shut down the government over was Obamacare subsidies. I'm 271 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: gonna say it again. These were temporary passed in twenty 272 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: twenty one as part of the COVID panic, supposed to 273 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: expire this year. Temporary things means they expire. And the 274 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: Democrats were in charge of everything back then, and they 275 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: put in the expiration date and they figured if anybody 276 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: tried to enforce the expiration date, they would just screen 277 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: bloody murder and embarrass people. And it didn't work. And 278 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: that system's broken too. Obamacare was supposed to lower premiums 279 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: when it was unveiled fifteen years ago. They have skyrocketed 280 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: and people are going to see how badly they've skyrocketed 281 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: now that the government subsidies are gone. There's a lot 282 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: more to say about all that. It gets complicated, but 283 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: that's the basics of it. And you know that can't continue. 284 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: That's a bad system that has to be bull dozed 285 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: and rebuilt and rewritten. But we only have stupid people 286 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: running things, so that's not going to happen. They'll end 287 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: up maybe they'll end up with something worse. I don't know, 288 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: but we don't have We do not have men and 289 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: women in Washington, just like Sacramento, LA. Don't have people 290 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: who can govern the country. They're incapable of it, and 291 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: it's the fault of the voters because they send these 292 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: incapable uncapable What is it incapable or incapable? Well, what's that? Incapable? 293 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: Incompetent idiots? And then you put one hundred of them 294 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: in a room or four hundred and thirty five in 295 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: a room. Well, what do you think is going to happen? 296 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: You have idiot times, idiot times, idiot up to the 297 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty fifth power. So there's no hope, 298 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: all right, when we come back. Another another revelation in 299 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: the Palisades fire scandal, there was another guy in the 300 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: fire department who was told that the firefighters left early, 301 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: and he didn't tell anybody. We are going to talk 302 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: about that when we come back. 303 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM. 304 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: Six forty Moistline for Friday eight seven seven Moist eighty 305 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: six eight seven seven Moist eighty six are usually talkback 306 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: feature on the iHeartRadio app. Another another bombshell. This this 307 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: is a real, honest to God's scandal. It's being investigated 308 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: by the federal government. There are subpoenas out from a 309 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: federal grand jury, and it is the Palisades fire, and 310 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: now the La Times, which this seems to be the only, 311 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: the only story that they're covering well and accurately. But 312 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: they're doing it. I've said it one hundred times. They're 313 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: doing a great job. And this article is by Paul 314 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: Pringle and Aleen check Midian. And as you know, word 315 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: came out a few weeks ago that there were a 316 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: number of fives who were at the scene of the 317 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: original January first fire in the Palisades, and that fire 318 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: had a hot spot. And on January second, these firefighters 319 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: were at the hot spot and the battalion chief, Mario Garcia, 320 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: said we're going home. Roll up the hoses, and the 321 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: firefighters protested, saying, well, no, the ground is smoking, the 322 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: tree stumps are hot, the rocks are hot. Things are smoldering. No, 323 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: no hoses, roll them up. We're going out. And then 324 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: nobody knew about this for months and months until text 325 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: messages from those firefighters ended up in the hands of 326 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: the La Times and they publicized them. And now we 327 00:19:52,320 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: find out that there was another official, a another fire 328 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: department management official, who was told that the firefighters had 329 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: left the hotspot early, and that second official told a 330 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: third official outside the department. That third official broke down 331 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: the details of the story and now has revealed them 332 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: to the La Times. And if you remember, they had 333 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: a number of public meetings where the survivors and victims 334 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: of the fire were pleading, demanding that give us information. 335 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: How did this happen? Why did it happen? Who's responsible? 336 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: And they were constantly patted on the head and told well, 337 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: there's going to be an after action report, there's going 338 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: to be an investigation. But you just wait till the 339 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: after action report comes out. And then it does and 340 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: it said nothing about the hot spot being left behind, 341 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: still hot, and that's of course where the second fire originated. 342 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: That hot spot. Winds came and whipped it up. And 343 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: now you have the narcissistic psychopath Gavin Newsom in Brazil 344 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: battling at a climate conference blaming the Palisades fire on 345 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: climate change. Complete lie, started by an arsonist. The fire 346 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: department didn't put it fully, put it out, and when 347 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: the normal Santa Ana winds came and blew, that's what 348 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 1: whipped up the fire. But let me read to you 349 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: from the Alley Time story for months, as victims plated 350 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: for information, the Alley Fire Department kept secret that it's 351 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: firefighters were ordered to stop the mop up operations. At 352 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: least one department official learned that a battalion chief had 353 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: directed the firefighters to pack up their hoses and leave 354 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: the scene, even though they said the ground was smoking 355 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: the rocks were hot. Now, the Times originally found this 356 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: out because of the text messages that the firefighters wrote. 357 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: Now this is another department official, but the department did 358 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: not include that story or any detailed examination of the 359 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: reignition in the after action report. So the fire department 360 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: willfully covered it up and kept the secret. No respect 361 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: for all the people who lost their homes or for 362 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: the families who had loved ones who lost their lives. 363 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: None the Ali Fire Department. And I know you want 364 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: to think of everybody as a hero, right. I don't 365 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: know how many awards shows that they showed up at 366 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: and stood up and got deployed it. And certainly, you know, 367 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: the regular firefighters did the best they could. But the 368 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: management is so bad. And I think there's a lot 369 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: of people that are really bad because when they issued 370 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: the report and it was supposed to identify shortcomings in 371 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: the preparedness and response. There was only a brief mention 372 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: of the original fire, even though firefighters on the scene 373 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: knew that the original firefighter firefight site was the problem, 374 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: and then fire officials publicly somewhere between lied, misled, or 375 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: were ignorant of the truth. Kristin Crowley, the fire chief 376 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: at the time, said we won't leave a fire that 377 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: has any hotspots. That's false. Did she know? I don't know. 378 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: Chief Deputy Joe Everett at same meeting a community meeting 379 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: January sixteenth, first, Crowley said flat out, we won't leave 380 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: a fire that has any hotspots. Then Joe Everett said 381 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: that fire was dead out. If it was determined to 382 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: be the cause, it would be a phenomenon false. Crowley 383 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: said something false publicly. Everett said something false publicly. Again ignorant. 384 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: Did they do an investigation? Were they aware of what 385 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: had really happened. Mario Garcia was the battalion chief listed 386 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: as being on duty. LA Times emailed him. He's unable 387 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: to comment due to the ongoing investigation. The interim fire chief, 388 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: Ronnie Vivanueva, declined to be interviewed or answered questions. Mayor 389 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: Karen Bass declined to be interviewed and did not respond 390 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: directly to a question. So Bass won't talk, The interim chief, 391 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: THEANUEVA won't talk, the original Chief, Kristin Crowley woon talk, 392 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: wom talk, the chief Deputy Joe Everett won't talk, and 393 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: the battalion chief won't talk. But everybody gave out false 394 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: information and covered up the truth. So now you've got 395 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: a federal grand jury subpoena. And the source of this 396 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: story is a high ranking fire official who works for 397 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: another agency in LA and he's the one who told 398 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: the Times that there was a second LA Fire Department 399 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: battalion chief named Nick Ferrari. Nick Ferrari told him in 400 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: June that the department knew of the firefighters wanting to 401 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: stay at the hotspot and were told to go home. 402 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: And he made written notes at the time he had 403 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: the conversation, so he documented what Ferrari had said. So 404 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: the firefighters knew what happened. Chief Mario Garcia knew what 405 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: happened because he told him to go home. This other person, 406 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: this other battalion chief, Nick Ferrari, knew, and all the 407 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: officials higher than them denied everything or covered it up, 408 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: and These are the people that are supposed to be 409 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: working for us and protecting us when we come back 410 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: San Diego had This is what they do. This is 411 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: what they do in San Diego. They have a new 412 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: set of enforcers, law enforcement people. I don't know what 413 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: to call them. They'll cut They come by your house 414 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: and they lid the lift. They lift the lid on 415 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: your garbage can to see if you're sorting the garbage properly. Seriously, 416 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: a team of San Diego city employees are going to 417 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: be showing up the people's homes to stick their heads 418 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: in your trash cans. Tell you about it next year. 419 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 420 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: six forty. 421 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: We had been promoting that Tom McClintock was going to 422 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: be on the show today, and he will be on 423 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: the show very shortly. But obviously things are quite busy 424 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: and crazy in Washington, d C. Today, So we will 425 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: speak with him tomorrow or perhaps the next day, but 426 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: at some point soon. All right, this well a dumb 427 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: ass things that government wastes money on. This one wins 428 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: a prize. It's the city of San Diego. They have 429 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: compliance officers sticking their noses into your trash cans. Let's 430 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: get this report from ABC ten San Diego reporter Jared Aarrens. 431 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: One Candida time employees from the city's Environmental Services department 432 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 4: are checking the trash in this Bay Park neighborhood. 433 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: We've never been this detailed and thorough with it. 434 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 4: Officially, they're called compliance officers, and they're lifting lids all 435 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: across San Diego to make sure each of these bins 436 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: only dange trash recycling organic waste. It's a requirement under 437 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 4: Senateville thirteen eighty three, which made composting the law. In California, 438 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 4: Waste Reduction Program manager Alexander Galasso told me it's kind 439 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: of a thrill. 440 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm weird. I'm excited. 441 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 5: I think it's cool to dig through trash, but I 442 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 5: get it, I'm not the normal person. 443 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: Don't worry. 444 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: They're not actually digging through anything, just a simple glance 445 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 4: at the top layer. And it's about safety as much 446 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: as sorting. Already this year, twenty five city waste trucks 447 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 4: have caught fire, mainly because of batteries that get improperly 448 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: thrown out. 449 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: The way the trucks are set up. 450 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 5: They'll crush the compact the material and unfortunately battery, especially 451 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 5: lithium ion other types of material, when they get crushed, 452 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 5: those cells explode at fire as a real threat. 453 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: That's why they're looking for this or that, but also 454 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: for anything in the wrong bin. And this is more 455 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 4: about education over enforcement. If the compliance officers lift this 456 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: lid and see something that doesn't belong, they have these 457 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: OOPS tags so remind people to do better. 458 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 5: We're not going to be enforcing or we're doing any 459 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 5: kind of citations for minor and major contaminations. 460 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 4: If it's really bad, workers may put a do not 461 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 4: collect sticker on the bin. Then it's up to the 462 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: homeowner to take it out and call for a new pickup. 463 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 4: There are no fees, no penalties, just education. Every home 464 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: will be checked at least once a year to help 465 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 4: people make this a habit. 466 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 5: Waste doesn't end when you come to the trash gun. 467 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 5: There is there is a life after waste, and we 468 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 5: want to make sure that these are sort of correctly 469 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 5: because not only one doesn't impact our chef and our 470 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 5: role in our trucks. 471 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: But. 472 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 6: Well there's no penalties at least. 473 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's no penalties. 474 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 6: Just going to be educated on the right way to 475 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 6: throw things out. 476 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: Boy, what you need to do is a there should 477 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: be a very very interesting top layer of waste that 478 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: you leave so that they when they pick up the lid, 479 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: they get a blast right in their face as something 480 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: really unpleasant. I'm any. Yeah, maybe you could take your 481 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: dog poop bags and cut them open and just sprinkle 482 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: the dog poop right on the top there, so that's 483 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: the first thing they see and smell. Who are he 484 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: admitted he's weird the guy? But seriously, these people need 485 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: to be in an asylum. They actually enjoy going through 486 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: and sniffing people's garbage. 487 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 6: Do you really think they enjoy it or that's the 488 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 6: only jobbing way That. 489 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: Little clip of the the guy if you can find it. 490 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: I don't know about all of them, but this guy, 491 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: he admitted he's a weirdo. He likes looking at people's garbage, 492 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: because you know, that is such a pain in the 493 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: ass thing separating. I don't do it anymore. I don't 494 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: do it either. In fact, I was up in San 495 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: Francisco some a couple of years ago, and they have 496 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: these organic waste bins along with the regular trash bins. 497 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: And the recycled bins for cans and bottles, and I 498 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: intentionally like put my cans and bottles in the organic waste, 499 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: yes to mess up their compost pile. That yeah, I'm 500 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: very moved. 501 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: There is there is a life after waste, and we 502 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 5: want to make sure that these are sort of correctly 503 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 5: because not only one does it impact our staff and 504 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 5: our our structural you know, our trucks, but also it 505 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 5: impacts what goes into a landfall. 506 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: No, that's not it's someone where he says he enjoys 507 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: it and that he's weird. But you know he's getting 508 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: tax money. He's getting tax money too. All right, now 509 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: you found it, all right, But I get it. I'm 510 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: not the normal person. 511 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 4: Don't worry, they're not. It's kind of a thrill. 512 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 5: I'm weird. Were excited. I think it's cool to dig 513 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 5: through trash. 514 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: But I get it. I'm not the normal person. 515 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 6: Okay, So one guy, one guy likes his job. I 516 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 6: mean that's good. I'm glad he likes his job. 517 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: Nobody should be paying this guy to fondle your garbage. 518 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: Fondle to look for your alex. Like a guy who 519 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: fondles the garbage and this organic waste in this composting thing. 520 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: When they passed you know, it's like mandatory composting. It's 521 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be. And my first reaction when they pass 522 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: this thing is like, yeah, who's going to enforce it? Well, 523 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: now we found out in San Diego they're paying people 524 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: to stick their heads in your garbage can. And I 525 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: understand looking for batteries because those things do catch fire 526 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: and explode. And it shows you how stupid people are 527 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: that you throw lithium batteries away in regular garbage. It's 528 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: just but yeah, it's a requirement. And under Senate Bill 529 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: thirteen eighty three requiring Californians to recycle organic waste, No, 530 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: that's a no. Ain't in the ass, busy bodies. God, 531 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: you have to compost when somebody comes over right to 532 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: visit at the house. Yeah, and these are people I 533 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: like it. Well, do you compost well? 534 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 6: Because they're being respectful, John, they want to know if 535 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 6: you do that, they're going to throw away things in 536 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 6: the proper places. 537 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: I just look at them and I say, do I 538 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: look like a guy who composts? How long have we 539 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: known each other? 540 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: You think? 541 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: I get up in the morning and I start composting. 542 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't know you that one. Apparently not all right? 543 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: When we come back, Oh, this is this headline. The 544 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: national political press are starting to grease up Gavin Newsom. 545 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: Here's the headline from Politico. You might gag. The hottest 546 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: ticket in Brazil just might be a meeting with Gavin Newsom. 547 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: We'll tell you about that. We come back, Debora Mark 548 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: live in the CAFI twenty four hour newsroom. 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