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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver

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Speaker 1: Here we go on a Tuesday with all sorts of

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Speaker 1: activity in the coaching industry in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: We are live or in Chicago. It's the Herd wherever

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Speaker 1: you may be and however you may be listening, whatever

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Speaker 1: the platform. Thanks for making us part of your day. Well,

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Speaker 1: I was like many of you, most of you watching

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Speaker 1: a sports talk show. I sat and watched Indiana Miami

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Speaker 1: last night, not only the first sixteen to oh team,

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Speaker 1: national championship in college football. It felt like fifty percent

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Speaker 1: NFL and I am here for it. College football rosters

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Speaker 1: are getting older, wiser. Miami's D line and O line

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Speaker 1: those are NFL bodies. Miami's got a defensive lineman about

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Speaker 1: to turn twenty five, Indiana, by design, is a roster

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Speaker 1: filled with mature, twenty two and twenty three year olds,

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Speaker 1: both quarterbacks three year starters. That's why Indiana played such

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Speaker 1: mistake free football. It's an older, smarter roster. What last

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Speaker 1: night allows is more sophisticated defenses. Miami's doing part zone,

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Speaker 1: Indiana never fumbles, no errant snaps. They don't throw interceptions,

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Speaker 1: they rare get penalized defenses. Offenses much more sophisticated. That's

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Speaker 1: why Sunday football has always been three times to four

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Speaker 1: times higher rated than college football. College football can be

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Speaker 1: regional and provincial and full of mistakes. It's rare that

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Speaker 1: you see a good college program with even decent special teams.

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Speaker 1: But college football has officially grown up, and last night

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Speaker 1: felt different. Three year starters at quarterback, players getting paid,

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Speaker 1: players staying in college longer. That's never a bad thing,

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Speaker 1: and the product on the field to me reflects it.

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Speaker 1: Georgia won a national title in the early eighties and

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Speaker 1: completed one pass, no thank you, not interested. The SEC,

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Speaker 1: which has now fallen behind the Big ten. Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: in Miami has always felt two ground and pound oh

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Speaker 1: Miss is the new way to win. A lot of offense,

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Speaker 1: three of Indiana's biggest plays came after Kurt Signetty timeouts.

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Speaker 1: Very NFL feeling. Fernando Mendoza on that TD run talked

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Speaker 1: about expecting his own seeing man de man. It was

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Speaker 1: a little of both, and like Andrew luck Elway, Josh

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Indiana to me is absolutely great for

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Speaker 1: a couple of well healed NIL boosters. You don't need

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Speaker 1: five star recruits. It'd be nice going forward to have some.

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Speaker 1: But suddenly you look around if you get the coach

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Speaker 1: why not us? The Indiana football story was not possible

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Speaker 1: pre portal. It was not possible pre nil. You couldn't

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Speaker 1: have done this. Now you got to get the coach right.

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Speaker 1: And Kurt Signetti is like Nick Saban without the charm

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Speaker 1: And the truth is Saban got funnier and more charming

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Speaker 1: after the rebuild was complete at Alabama. This is probably

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Speaker 1: sixteen and oh perfect. Indiana deserved every part of last night.

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Speaker 1: With this coach, the big boosters, They're going absolutely nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself, are you the next Indiana? Why not Purdue?

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Speaker 3: After It's a great thing, Indiana win a national championship

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Speaker 3: we're I guess we're twenty seven and two since Indiana,

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of people thought was never possible.

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Speaker 1: A couple more natties, and my guess he'll crack more

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Speaker 1: regularly a smile. There's a lot of tension in Buffalo today.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo is one of those great American cities where people,

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Speaker 1: stretches in my lifetime, in probably yours, the Marv Levy,

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Speaker 1: and now he's gone. And attention is because Brandon, being

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Speaker 1: the general manager since Josh Allen arrived, has what fifty

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Speaker 1: to do the Pittsburgh thing. Hey, we're over five hundred

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Speaker 1: A playoff wins are overrated. It's hard to do what

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Speaker 1: Buffalo did. Sean McDermott was well liked and respected ninety

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Speaker 1: a long time, five weeks ago, McDermott met with Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean and the owner. McDermott and this takes some guts,

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Speaker 1: say this, Buffalo found ways to lose every January. They

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Speaker 1: The thirteen second loss this year, five turnovers and complaining

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Speaker 1: but Dallas and Jerry Jones it appears, will no longer

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Speaker 1: can blame Sean McDermott. In their last six playoff exits

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Speaker 1: Something had to change. You may not like the GM,

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Speaker 1: maybe you'll miss the head coach, but they're willing to

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Speaker 1: take a swing. It's so much easier to do the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh thing. Nobody's offended. Everybody in the building is happy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but hey, we do what we do. Buffalo's a small town.

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Speaker 1: They're taking a big swing. I respect it. Albert Brewed

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Speaker 5: There was a different feel in that building the last

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Speaker 5: couple of months. More tension, I think, more pressure on everybody.

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Speaker 5: They realize that they've got in front of them the

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Speaker 5: opportunity that Josh Allen as a quarterback gives them. And

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Speaker 5: I think some of that's spilled out Colin after the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I understand the tension. But you know, Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones is ironic because he always talks about every time

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Speaker 1: he seeks a bargain, that's exactly what he gets. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like Jerry Jones should listen to his own words.

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Speaker 1: It feels like he's always trying to get a bargain

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Speaker 1: at head coach. Look around the playoffs. No Mahomes, no Allen,

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Speaker 1: no Lamar, no Burrow. Once you pay that star quarterback,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if Andy Reids your coach, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to be great. Buffalo is suffering through what the Chiefs what?

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Speaker 1: Chiefs do right? The difference is one of those franchises

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Speaker 1: they're gonna They're gonna make a move, and you don't

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Speaker 1: people are uncomfortable with the McDermott stuff, because he was

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Speaker 1: a really good coach. You didn't swing and miss on four,

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Speaker 1: I was watching that game last night, I am not

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Speaker 1: saying Andrew Luck is John Elway or Andrew Luck the

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Speaker 1: two best quarterback prospects ever out of call. If you

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Speaker 1: talked to longtime NFL guys, those are great prospects. But

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza on that touchdown run that looked like Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 1: That mean that was Andrew Luck is one of those guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like the game starts until I get popped.

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Speaker 1: Mendoza similarly multiple times this year. Lip is bloodied off

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Speaker 1: so Andrew luck I mean it was. It had a

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen Andrew luckfield. And I'm he's not that kind

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Speaker 1: tear the fence down. He's the number one pick.

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Speaker 6: I think Tommy Frazier of Nebraska had an incredible run

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Speaker 6: against Florida National Championship. Remember that you Okay, this was

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Speaker 6: to me like the equivalent of that.

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Speaker 1: It was a big play fourth down.

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Speaker 6: But here's the other thing, Mendoza, I don't think he

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Speaker 6: had two hundred yards passing Colin. Yeah, but it was

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Speaker 6: the important passes he needed. Third and seven, boom, got it,

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Speaker 6: fourth and five got it. I'm just telling you, man,

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Speaker 6: I said a couple of weeks ago, I see a

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Speaker 1: This guy's a winner. Man.

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Speaker 6: I'm if I'm the Jets, I have to at least

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Speaker 6: I know Raiders fans are gonna say no way, but

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Speaker 6: that kid looks special.

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Speaker 1: Man, He's got everything you want a quarterback. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Here's what the SEC should truly be concerned about. Miami

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Speaker 1: the two best recruiters in the country as coaches. Two

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Speaker 1: So my takeaway, the three best teams I saw play

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Speaker 8: Got to a playoffs for the first time in Miami history,

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Speaker 1: Hard enough to beat Indiana. Probably not going to do

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Speaker 1: And a lot of it was the checkbook. Sorry, a

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Speaker 1: This is now a very admis this straight of business,

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Speaker 1: Here we go, it's our number three. Joel Klatt five minutes,

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Speaker 1: what a great time to be alive. Harbor in La Harbon,

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Speaker 1: New York. Ten new NFL coaches, four already hired Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Imagine saying this five years ago. I mean imagine saying

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Speaker 1: this five years ago. The Indiana Hoosiers sixteen to oh

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Speaker 1: am absolutely here for it. College football rosters are getting older, wiser.

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Speaker 1: Miami's D line and on line those are NFL bodies.

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Speaker 1: Miami's got a defensive lineman about to turn twenty five. Indiana,

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Speaker 1: by design, is a roster filled with mature twenty two

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Speaker 1: That's why Indiana played such mistake free football. It's an older,

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Speaker 1: smarter roster. What last night allows is more sophisticated defenses.

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Speaker 1: Miami's doing part zone, part man de man on the

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Speaker 1: same play you've got. Indiana never fumbles, no errant snaps,

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Speaker 1: much more sophisticated. That's why Sunday football has always been

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Speaker 1: and last night felt different. Three year starters at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: players getting paid, players staying in college longer. That's never

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Speaker 1: a bad thing, and the product on the field, to me,

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Speaker 1: reflects it. Georgia won a national title in the early

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Speaker 1: eighties and completed one pass, no thank you, not interested.

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Speaker 1: The SEC, which has now fallen behind the Big ten.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame in Miami has always felt two ground and pound,

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Speaker 1: oh miss is the new way to win. A lot

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Speaker 1: of offense, a lot of movement, some trickery, and score points.

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Speaker 1: Last night, three of Indiana's biggest plays came after Kurt

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Speaker 1: that touchdown. I don't know. Indiana, to me, is absolutely

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Speaker 1: great for college football. It's a football starved Midwest base alumni,

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Speaker 1: got a couple of well healed NIL boosters. You don't

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Speaker 1: need five star recruits. It'd be nice going forward to

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Speaker 1: you ask yourself, why not us? The Indiana football story

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Speaker 1: was not possible pre portal. It was not prop possible

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Speaker 1: he is all business. And the truth is Saban got

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Speaker 1: funnier and more charming after the rebuild was complete at Alabama.

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Speaker 1: This is probably right now for this time what the

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Speaker 1: A new story, a new champion, a new way of

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Speaker 1: they're going absolutely nowhere. Ask yourself, are you the next Indiana?

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Speaker 1: Why not Purdue? Why not Michigan State? Why not Kentucky Football?

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Speaker 1: Why not US? Here's the humorless head coach, as brilliant

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Speaker 4: After It's a great thing.

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Speaker 3: Indiana win the national championship two years into our tenure.

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Speaker 4: You do it with people and a plan.

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Speaker 3: Can't say enough about our senior leadership and the people

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Speaker 4: And we're sixteen and no.

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Speaker 3: And I guess we're twenty seven and two since Indiana.

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Speaker 4: But we're sixteen and no.

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Speaker 4: Which I know a lot of people thought was never possible.

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Speaker 1: Saban didn't smile a lot in the first couple of

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Speaker 1: But that Joel Klatt, the voice of college football for Fox,

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Speaker 1: And now that statement that you just made and that

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Speaker 1: and yet Indiana had answers. They ran the football we

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Speaker 1: was at thirty nine times for over one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty nine. So they lean into the run game, get

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Speaker 1: Mendoza out of the pocket, they start throwing it short,

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Speaker 1: and then in crunch time, what do they do? They

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Speaker 1: go to matchups. That's what's NFL. They say, Hey, Charlie

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Speaker 1: Becker has got the matchup that we like, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to him on the back shoulder on fourth down,

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Speaker 1: on third down, and then Mendoza runs the quarterback draw.

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Speaker 1: That's what felt NFL to me is the matchup oriented,

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Speaker 1: situational calls that we got from offensive coordinator Mike Shanahan

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Speaker 1: and Indiana going to Charlie Becker in those big moments.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's what we see in the NFL playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It's about players and not plays, and that's what ultimately

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Speaker 1: won the game for Indiana. You know, people can talk

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Speaker 1: about big ten against the SEC, and they've won three

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Speaker 1: straight Natties. If I was an SEC fan, Here's here's

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Speaker 1: what worries me. Miami and Notre Dame cause you look

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Speaker 1: at the ACC and you're like, well, tho's got un

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Speaker 1: to know. Maybe the two best recruiting head coaches now

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Speaker 1: out there, big checkbooks, in Miami's case, hyper aggressive, the

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Speaker 1: portal in the nil. Christi Ball also has I mean

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Speaker 1: in Oregon, he built good teams. He didn't have Daden

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Speaker 1: Broward County in the state of Oregon. I look at Miami, Joel,

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Speaker 1: I mean that they are absolutely the second best team

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Speaker 1: in the country after Indiana. I'd argue in the second

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Speaker 1: half they were almost a better team if not for

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Speaker 1: a block punt. I think Miami and Notre Dame, and

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Speaker 1: maybe Miami specifically why I'm sorry, but Christi Ball recruiting

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Speaker 1: that county, that nil checkbook. I think Miami is back

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Speaker 1: with a vengeance. I wouldn't be shocked if they bought

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Speaker 1: Duke's quarterback and we're back here next year. Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the rumors that Mensa, the Duke's quarterback,

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Speaker 1: is going to go down to Miami. Now, listen, they

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Speaker 1: do have to replace a lot. They're probably going to

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Speaker 1: have to replace four offensive linemen and that was a

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Speaker 1: trenches led team. They're likely going to have to replace

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Speaker 1: a bunch of their defense, including down the middle with

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Speaker 1: their linebackers and some of those guys up front. But

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Speaker 1: they're still going to have Malachai Tony. They can still

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Speaker 1: get a I would say a veteran quality quarterback. So

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Speaker 1: they will be good because of the way that they've

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Speaker 1: built their roster year over year. There's no doubt. And

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Speaker 1: Mario Christobal, I think, proved a lot of people wrong,

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Speaker 1: including myself. I didn't know if Mario Chris Ball could

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Speaker 1: win big games in November, much less the playoff, and

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Speaker 1: they proved that they could do that, and so that's

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Speaker 1: a huge feather in their cap. You're absolutely right about

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, and they're reloading with a great young quarterback

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Speaker 1: that will now be a veteran in CJ. Carr, and

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Speaker 1: they've got two wide receivers back they went out and

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Speaker 1: got Quincy Porter out of the portal from Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: who was a five star wide receiver. Notre Dame should

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Speaker 1: be very good. And here's what I'm about to record

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Speaker 1: and will coming out. We'll be coming out later this

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Speaker 1: week on the Joel Clas Show. My way too early

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Speaker 1: top ten for next year, and it's very difficult to

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Speaker 1: get even three SEC teams in that top ten. I

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Speaker 1: was just doing that this. Listen to this, Jill, I'll

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Speaker 1: give it to you here. So I said, next year,

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Speaker 1: because Miami's going to reload, they're going to go buy

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Speaker 1: an offensive line. That's what they're gonna do. I look

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Speaker 1: at Miami, no names, two, Ohio State, Oregon, Indiana, three,

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Speaker 1: two Cupcakes Automatic, Texas Tech's gonna buy teams. Sorry, I'm

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Speaker 1: at eight. I'm not counting USC Michigan, which could get in.

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Speaker 1: Clarson will be feisty. I mean we everybody says, oh well, Texas,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you forty million dollars roster. Joel. I look

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Speaker 1: at eight teams. I would be shocked if they didn't

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Speaker 1: get in before I get to the SEC. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean listen, so you basically have one spot left.

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Speaker 1: If let's sell Like, let's say we would we would

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Speaker 1: include Texas, and I will include Texas. So then then

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Speaker 1: you get down to this conversation about kind of the

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Speaker 1: last spot and a potential top ten going in the

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Speaker 1: next year. And you've got teams like LSU, usc A

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Speaker 1: and m BYU. Who is bringing back to Michigan, Michigan

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma like And here's the best part about it is

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Speaker 1: that any one of those teams might turn out to

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Speaker 1: be the best team. You know, I don't think we're

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Speaker 1: going to have a runaway number one team, although Oregon

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Speaker 1: like a team that could potentially wind up number one

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, in particular with Dante Moore back again,

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Speaker 1: we go back to the veteran presence at quarterback. You

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Speaker 1: bring him and all of his starts back and some

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Speaker 1: of that talent. College football is in such a good spot, man.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, like I said, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go back to this again. I think I think last

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Speaker 1: night was the most consequential national champion in my lab.

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Speaker 1: I'm forty three years old. I cannot remember a time

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Speaker 1: in college football where we needed this more than what

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Speaker 1: we have right now. Because every fan base in America

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Speaker 1: can wake up this morning and say, well, heck, why

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Speaker 1: can't we do that? You know, we're seeing it with

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Speaker 1: Tech and Oregon invests, LSU is investing, Ole misses investing,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is investing, Clemson's, everybody is investing, and they

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Speaker 1: can all play at the top end. And that's how

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Speaker 1: you get a championship game that that is that high

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Speaker 1: level between two teams that ultimately at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the year we didn't expect to be there. All right, Clatt,

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot of stuff to do. You're very,

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Speaker 1: very busy guy. You're pod smoking and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, it's nice. You know, I know

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Speaker 1: you don't like this. Let me ask you real quick.

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Speaker 1: I know you probably need to go just really quickly.

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Speaker 1: Best coaching job you've ever seen, I think. I think

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti, what he's done is the single greatest coaching

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Speaker 1: job I've ever seen any sport. I thought. I thought

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Speaker 1: Brad Stevens at Butler, had he won the title, I

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Speaker 1: was like, how is Butler playing for a such a

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Speaker 1: good one? That's a really good one and by the way,

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Speaker 1: brilliant guy, now coach and now GM. I would say

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Speaker 1: Brad Stevens at Butler's Like, this doesn't make any sense,

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Speaker 1: but that was also kind of a time when college

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Speaker 1: basketball was one and done, so the rosters weren't stacked.

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Speaker 1: You didn't get old rosters. And also in basketball you

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Speaker 1: need one great player, you know, it's not like you're

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Speaker 1: building you know, football they were in the end, it

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Speaker 1: was great across the board. There wasn't a weakness on

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Speaker 1: that team. It ultimately won m a national championship. I'm

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Speaker 1: not disagreeing. I think that's a Stevens is a great

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Speaker 1: call there. You know, you think of I thought I

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Speaker 1: like Herb Brooks, but that's one tournament with the miracle

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Speaker 1: on ice. You know, I can't think of certainly in

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Speaker 1: college football, there's probably you know, Nick Saban's the greatest

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Speaker 1: coach of all time, but as far as a single

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Speaker 1: performance and a couple of years, this is there's no

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Speaker 1: rival to what Signetti is doing and has done. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've said this for years. I grew up with college football,

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Speaker 1: so I've always loved it. We both love it, but

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Speaker 1: there was always two or three flaws to college football,

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Speaker 1: the ending, and I always felt like our bosses and

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Speaker 1: other big broadcast executives are always like, if we could

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Speaker 1: just get the ending to be a playoff. Now, okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll put a couple of you know, a couple of

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Speaker 1: cupcakes in and so we don't get sued. But let's

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Speaker 1: have a playoff. So they've solved the playoff thing. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing was it always felt a little regional.

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Speaker 2: To me.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. It's not regional. I got flashy Miami, I

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Speaker 1: got basketball school Indiana, I got a billionaire at Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: I got an academic power and Notre Dame. I've got

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Speaker 1: two great conferences. Like to me, it's like, okay, this

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Speaker 1: is like the NFL. I can get a small market

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, I could get LA. You know, it's like,

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Speaker 1: this is the way football should be. You just don't

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Speaker 1: you said it earlier. It used to be in the

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Speaker 1: preseason you could look at the Street and Smith depth

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Speaker 1: charts and you were like, well, Bama's in for sure,

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Speaker 1: and so's LSU. No, you really can't. And that's why

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Speaker 1: this is. I think we're entering what is going to

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Speaker 1: be a real, a real golden age of the sport.

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Speaker 1: I think we're entering what will likely be considered in history,

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Speaker 1: will look back on as the best period of college

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Speaker 1: football ever. Hey, I want to show you. I want

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Speaker 1: you to I want to ask you, can we roll

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Speaker 1: the Fernando Mendoza run for a touchdown? Oh? How good

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Speaker 1: was that? No, we're colin. I grew up in Denver,

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Speaker 1: so this reminded me of Super Bowl thirty two as

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Speaker 1: John Elway is running and then helicoptering around inside the

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Speaker 1: ten yard line against Green Bay. Like, That's what it

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Speaker 1: reminded me of. This effort was incredible and did it

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Speaker 1: all will not remind you a little of Andrew Luck, sure, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, has said publicly, I don't feel like

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Speaker 1: the game starts until I get popped. Mendoza similarly this year.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have like a mean streak in him, but

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Speaker 1: he does get a little you know, like like when

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Speaker 1: the limp is bleeding against the Ohio State against Miami.

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Speaker 1: I when I know he's not Andrew Luck as a

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Speaker 1: as a prospect. I'm not saying he's Alway or Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 1: But there are qualities. The humility, the toughness, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously great parenting, an amazing story. There are some things

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Speaker 1: about Mendoza where I'm like, man, I there's a little

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Speaker 1: luck in elway, he's not He's not that. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we have a we have a shot of his bruised

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Speaker 1: arm last night. I haven't seen this. Uh if you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen h oh, my lord, so good. You know,

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Speaker 1: there there are two types of quarterbacks. That's great and

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Speaker 1: there there are quarterbacks that rise to the occasion when

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Speaker 1: their best is needed, and there are guys that's sharp at.

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Speaker 1: And Mendoza rose to the occasion when his best was

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Speaker 1: was needed. He was at his best. That's that's why

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Speaker 1: he won the Heisman, and that's why he's a national champ.

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Speaker 1: Joe clack Gold see anybody you as well. Have a

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Speaker 1: good day, Bud,