1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Derek Rackley. I'm back with my fella's Dave Archer and 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: DJ Shockley. I will get to those guys in just 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: one second, but let me give you a quick rundown 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: of what we were talking about. Throughout the next call 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: of twenty or thirty minutes, we will get into a 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: discussion about kickers, yes, young Way who missed one this 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: past weekend, but we'll talk a little further beyond that. 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk about some interesting kicker stories the guys might 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: have had throughout the course of their careers. We'll also 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: get into the Falcons defense, and they had a really 11 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: good performance against Kansas City, holding him to the lowest 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: amount of points that they've had all season. We'll get 13 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: into a discussion about whether or not the Falcons defense 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: is good where they're at head the defensive, what has 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: been fixed or the guys still feel like things need 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: to be improved on that side of the football. We're 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: also going to talk about the guys that we'd like 18 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: to see in a Falcons uniform, more specifically, in the draft. 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: We'll fast forward to twenty twenty one and talk about 20 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: some of the potential guys that could land to the 21 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Falcons as Unfortunately, the losses can continue to pile up, 22 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: that pick starts to go down, which means better player. 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: And then we'll get into the discuss the age old 24 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: debate DJ and Dave about whether or not you draft 25 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: for need or you draft for the best player available. 26 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: I'll get the guy's opinion on that. But first, let's 27 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: start with the game this past weekend, and I want 28 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: you guys to give me a one sentence headline about 29 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: what you would say after the falcons seventeen to fourteen 30 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: loss to the Chiefs last weekend. Dave, let me start 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: with you give me a one sentence headline if you 32 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: are running the sports column of a newspaper, and a 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: quick support behind your headline, nice effort, learn how to 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: win games at the end in twenty twenty one, There 35 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: it is, and that's been the theme throughout the entire season. 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Falcons just not able to close games out. I think 37 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: I saw Statur in the game that with the Chiefs loss, 38 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: the Falcons are not o and seven this year on 39 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: games decided by six points or less, so finishing obviously 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: been an issue for him. DJ, what do you got 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: for a headline for us? Just a few plays away? 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Is the hitdline for me, make meg in the ball. 43 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: There were a couple of plays here and there and fumble, 44 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: we know, the missfield goal and miss tackles, all those 45 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: things could have contributed to a big win. And you 46 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: were just a few plays away. Yeah, just a few 47 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: plays away is definitely true there. And I'll end with 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: my headline, guys, and I'm kind of me and Dave 49 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: were thinking on the same lines here, and my headline 50 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: was Falcons fight Chiefs hard, but end with familiar results. 51 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: And again, just the the inability to close out games. 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: And Dave kind of talked about as far as twenty 53 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: twenty one goes, whether that's the same personnel, whether that's 54 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, somehow they have to change that 55 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: internal mindset on finding a way to finish out football games. So, 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: like we said, we're not going to touch a whole 57 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: lot on this game. It's a Falcons four and eleven 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: season right now. I think most people are interested in 59 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: where this team is going to go from here moving forward. 60 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: So we'll just go ahead and we'll fast forward. Gonna 61 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: push that button on the old cassette tape. You guys, 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: remember you fight, Just fast forward, fast forward, right to 63 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: the next topic. We're gonna talk about kickers and kickers 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: doing kicker things, not branded. Young Wayku did miss a 65 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: very important field goal in the game last weekend, But 66 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: this is not gonna be a session where we're gonna 67 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: get on top of the shoulders a young Wayku. He's 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: had a phenomenal season. He hit twenty seven in a row. 69 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: He's one of two Falcons Pro Bowl representatives this year. 70 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: But what we're gonna do is we're gonna talk about 71 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: some kicker stories that kind of make us think about 72 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: kickers doing kicker things. So dj There's been a number 73 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: of different examples out here, and I'm gonna just kind 74 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: of leave it wide open. You can pick whatever comes 75 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: to your mind, whether it was a college game, pro game, 76 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: about it's just one instance where a kicker just did 77 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: something where you were like, man, that's such a kicker 78 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: thing to do. Reck is so funny, You say why 79 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: because it goes exactly with what I'm going to bring up. First, 80 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: I want to kind of pig it back on what 81 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: you say. A lot of product to Yengwakua sees I 82 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: mean a number of fifty yard kicks that he knocks 83 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: through this year to the guy who's been an absolutely 84 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: amazing for the Falcons, So give him a lot of credits. 85 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Hard to come out there here and you got one 86 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: instance like you know, wreck to putting that thing right 87 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: and not come out on top. So still have a 88 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: lot of props to young Wick cou So mine is 89 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: since you said why, how about all about the why rights? 90 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: For FSU going against Miami? How many times do we 91 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: see that? I think we saw it in ninety one 92 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: and nine two, saw it again in two thousand we 93 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: saw a wide left right and oh three, how many 94 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: times in that game vers one opponent with the game 95 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: on the line, can you go why night right, O 96 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: y left and completely destroy the dreams of so many 97 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: flowing state phase over the years. I remember watching and 98 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: those throwing up and like, man, there's no way he's 99 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna be sin when again. And then you watch it 100 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: fifteen years later and you're like, how did that happen again? 101 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: So all the wide for me with the FSU in 102 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: Miami ribery something that sticks out for me when it 103 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: comes to kickers and the end of ball games. It's 104 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: amazing how two words and wide right and wide left 105 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: can just become synonymous the point game, but that has 106 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: definitely happened. Arch. What do you got kickers doing kicker things? 107 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: What comes to the top your mind? Yeah, first thing 108 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: comes to mind for me is a game, the game 109 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: we were getting ready for in New England. Our kickers 110 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: out warming up, slips and falls on the field and 111 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: wax his head on the turf. Concussion. He can't go? 112 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: What can't go? He slipped and fell and in his head, 113 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: so our punter had to kick in the game. I mean, 114 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: you've heard me say it for a number of times. 115 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: You know, you don't even wash their uniforms. You just 116 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: hang them up in the in the locker. They don't 117 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: they don't really need to have their uniforms. Well, no 118 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: offense to any kicker out there. Well, yeah, offense to 119 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: all kickers out there. Let me take that back, young 120 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: Wayku of my amazing seasoned guys. He'd hit thirty straight 121 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: inside forty yards. We all expected him and knock it through, 122 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: and I know nobody feels more bad about it than 123 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: he does. We've seen a number of kickers have big 124 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: moments and sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. They're 125 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: gun slingers. They only get called on once or twice, 126 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: maybe three times a game, and you got to go 127 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: out and try to knock it through. He's done that 128 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: all year long. Just didn't happen on this game. By 129 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: the way, there are a lot of other players in 130 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: this game that we could have made. It wouldn't even 131 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: had young Way could be on the field to try 132 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: to tie the football game. But yeah, you can't fall 133 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: down and warm ups and knock yourself out. That's brutal. 134 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: Where were you know, you had some days of tea 135 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: or something. I mean, you didn't give it a try. 136 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: I can punt. I could punt up punted in high school, 137 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: I was back up hunter on a team, but I 138 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: wouldn't place kicking. I mean that's got n knee injury 139 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: written all over it. I wouldn't do that. Arch wasn't 140 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: going to try to jeopardize his standing in the quarterback room. Well. Plus, 141 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: I didn't have the square toe rack. I couldn't go 142 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: to the square toe shoot because I'm not coming in 143 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: soccer style. That would all right, I'll cap off the 144 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: kickers doing kicker things and guys, I'm gonna go back. 145 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: And I talked about this a few weeks ago when 146 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: I was on here with the Falcons Audible with Kelsey 147 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: and Will and we got into a discussion about some 148 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: different things, and and I talked about the Falcons Vikings 149 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: championship game from back in nineteen ninety eight and the 150 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: reason why I bring it up obviously we're on a podcast, 151 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: but also I'm born and raised in Minnesota. And when 152 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: you're born and raised in Minnesota, unless your parents came 153 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: from some part of the country where they were a 154 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: Giants fan, of Steelers fan, a Cowboys fan, whatever it 155 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: may be, you're just kind of born a Vikings fan. Right. Well, 156 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: that was the season where everything aligned perfectly for Minnesota. 157 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I told this story a few weeks ago. My parents 158 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: even super Bowl tickets like Week sixteen of the regular season. Guys, 159 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: it was a foregone conclusion that the Vikings were going 160 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. They were the most untouchable team 161 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: in the NFC that entire season. Gary Anderson, the kicker 162 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: with the low bar, single face, you could see the 163 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: whole face. I don't know what that one bar down 164 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: there was gonna do anyway, if anything would have ended 165 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: up coming his direction. He had missed a kick all year, 166 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: and the Vikings at a seven point lead, a chance 167 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: to take that game to a ten point lead and 168 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: make it maybe insurmountable for the Atlanta Falcons. And what 169 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: does he end up doing He misses. I think it 170 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: was why left on that one DJ he goes wide left, 171 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: maybe by the length of a football or two in 172 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: the entire state of Minnesota was absolutely stunned. It was 173 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: the quietest I've ever seen. Number one when he missed 174 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: the field goal, and number two when the seemingly untouchable 175 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings went down to a different Anderson, the Morton 176 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: Anderson from the Falcons, and of course na Falcons ended 177 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: up going to the super Bowl. That was such and 178 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: again just like the only coo, he had a phenomenal season, 179 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: but Gary Anderson doing kicker things for the Vikings losing 180 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: that game in Minnesota to the Falcons. I know you 181 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: guys remember that one. Aren't you remember that game? Right? 182 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: No question about it. I would fast forward seventeen years 183 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: and Blair Walsh mission the field goal against says Seattle 184 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: in Minnesota again to win the football game, and No Seattle, 185 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: I was a twenty six yard or with twenty seven 186 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: seconds left or something like that, So I guess we 187 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: say all of this that you know what, you don't 188 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: like it, but it happens, and it's been happening down 189 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: through the ages where a lot of times you don't 190 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: want to leave it up to the kicker. Most of 191 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: them are really good. Certainly ours is really good and 192 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: young Way Coup, But again, I think we have to 193 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: emphasize there's so many other plays in the game that 194 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: kind of eliminate that being the one player the sides 195 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: a football game. Yeah, I mean, you always think that 196 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: these NFL kickers, they're getting paid to do this. Some 197 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: of them are getting paid a ton of money to 198 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: do this. You're thinking, this is your job, all you 199 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: gotta do is make a kick. But you're right, arch 200 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: just like any game, there's probably a lot of plays 201 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: that could have been made to where it didn't come 202 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: down to a field goal, even against the Big Bad Chiefs. So, 203 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: speaking of the Big Bad Chiefs, let's talk a little fellas. 204 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: I just want to point out something. You guys both 205 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: have mentioned my headline numerous times since we've been on 206 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: the podcast, So I think the hierarchy of my headline 207 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: I think would have to go first, right, because you 208 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: guys have been you've got good headlines. But for some reason, 209 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: you guys keep saying just a few plays away would 210 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: sounded like my headlines. Arch I checked we weren't giving 211 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: away prizes for whoever at the headline. Did you remember 212 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: me saying anything about that? Arch Oh, I thought it 213 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: was always a competition. My bad. Sorry, Yeah, Shock is 214 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: what he's done is he's gone down to one the 215 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: local five and dime stores. He's bought a bunch of 216 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: those little stuffed animals, and he awards himself a stuffed 217 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: animal every time he gets something right, so he gets 218 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: a little sum while we set up this next topic here, 219 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: you go ahead and grab whatever stuffed animals that makes 220 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: you feel better as far as your heads. The giraffe, 221 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: get the giraffe. That's really best so far. But let's 222 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Falcons and Chiefs game, 223 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: because I want to talk a little bit about the 224 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: defense in this game, because, as we mentioned, the Falcons 225 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: defense ends up holding the Chiefs to the lowest amount 226 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: of points throughout the entire season for Kansas City and 227 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: the lowest passer rating for Patrick Mahomes. And we've talked 228 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: a lot about the improvement of the defense. Arch and 229 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: So I want to start with you. Are you sold 230 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: that the defensive woes have been solved for the Falcons 231 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: defense or do you feel like there are still wholes 232 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: still improvement ways for this defense to get better. No, 233 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: there's certainly ways to get better. I have encouraged with 234 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: the way they've played. If you type the first five games, 235 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: for instance, they were given up thirty two points a game. 236 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: Over the last ten games, Atlanta has given up twenty 237 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: point two points per game. That would be near the 238 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: top of the National Football League if it were for 239 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: a sixteen game schedule. Twenty points a game, you're gonna 240 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: win most of your games. Now, that puts the onus 241 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: back on the offense, and I know that's where you're 242 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: gonna take this rack. But now, I don't think it's fixed, 243 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: but it's certainly they're planning to higher level. They got 244 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: to add a few pieces to help them play with 245 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: the personality they've been playing with over the last ten games. DJ, 246 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: We've always known about the playmaking ability of a guy 247 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: like Grady Jared going to the Pro Bowl this year. 248 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: Foyer Lui Kan has had a fantastic season, had a 249 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: great interception in that game. Kean O'Neil when he's healthy 250 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: is probably one of the most punishing safeties that plays 251 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: the game. But what are you seeing from this defense, DJ, 252 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: Are you seeing enough improvement to where you feel like 253 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: this is a defense that can help them win next 254 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: year or they still need to add pieces. I love 255 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: that of where you are and there's always gonna be 256 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: pieces you need to add it. Then on the back end, Keyano, 257 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: you gotta love how he's came back from you know, 258 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: the multiple injuries he's had in the last couple of 259 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: years and being a stalemate on the back end. Now, 260 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: you've had some guys who have been in out of 261 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: lineup Black and Ricardo, but aj Terrell has held his 262 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: own for the most time. I mean, we're putting this 263 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: guy as a rookie on some of the best receivers 264 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: in the game that's been around for multiple years doing it. 265 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: So I think the pieces are there. There's always more 266 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: complimentary pieces that you can add. I mean, look at 267 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: a guy like two yeo two Mariner this year who's 268 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: played a pillow to role for the defense. I bought 269 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: Michael Walker coming in and some key moments and playing 270 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: well as well. You've got some young pieces that are 271 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: here that can help you. But I just love the 272 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: fact that you have those three guys at the three 273 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: major levels that you need for this defense. But there's 274 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: always room to grow in any defense. But what they've 275 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: done over the last, like Arch mentioned ten weeks and 276 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: even the last three out of four ball games, holding 277 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: some really good offense is still under twenty one points 278 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: is a huge stepping point forward these defense going forward. Yeah, 279 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: look like I think we're all in agreement here, guys 280 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: that we've seen improvement. We've seen some flashes of this 281 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: defense playing really well. And I think I've said this 282 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: comment before and I'll update it for this week it 283 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: because it kind of applies as well. But at the 284 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: end of the day, when you're a four and eleven team, 285 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: nothing is set in stone. No jobs should be solidified, 286 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: nobody's got anything on lock. And obviously this comes off 287 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: a two, seven and nine season as well. So I 288 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: feel like, and to your point, DJ, you mentioned everybody, 289 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine the Super Bowl winner is going to 290 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: be finding a way to get better. That's the reason 291 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: why we have the draft, that's the reason why we 292 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: have free agencies. So no, this defense is not there. 293 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: They have found some really good pieces and guys that 294 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: all three of us have talked about. But this defense 295 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: still has a ways to go if it wants to 296 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: be able to compete to help this team get in 297 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,239 Speaker 1: the postseason, and that will start with our next discussion, 298 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: which is going to be the twenty twenty one draft. 299 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: So that's what a lot of the fans, especially Falcons folks, 300 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: are looking at right now. How does this team get better? 301 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: And because of the couple of losses that we've ended 302 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: up having, it has ended up making the draft position better. So, DJ, 303 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: let me start with you. If we're in the twenty 304 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: twenty one draft and we're not going to get into 305 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: the discussion about need versus best player available yet, we'll 306 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: get there in a moment. But what do you feel 307 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: as out there right now as far as personnel player 308 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: coming out of college that can help this Falcons team. 309 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: I think you're staying on a defensive side of the ball, 310 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: and it starts up front. I think you gotta have 311 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: that pass rusher that is equivalent to a guy that 312 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: can change a ball game for you. You look at 313 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: so many teams who are going to be planning in 314 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: the postseason, they have one or two guys who are 315 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: complete game records upfront, and you know you're looking at 316 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: some of the guys who are coming out this year. 317 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: Committed pay from Michigan, a really explosive guy on the edge, 318 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: pass rusher guy really well for him, Greg was sooo 319 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: fifteen and a half sacks over his career out here, 320 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: so you know he's gonna be healthy and ready to 321 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: go right away. I just think we'll having a guy 322 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: like Grady in the middle. You need somebody who's gonna 323 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: take press off. Now, don't say Faldo's a guy who 324 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: would expect to become that guy wasn't as much this year, 325 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: but if there's always room to grow and have extra 326 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: pass rushers to go along with what you got on 327 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: the back end. So for me, it's one of those 328 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: pass rushers or guys I think can absolutely come in 329 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: and have an impact on what the Falcons could do, 330 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to rushing the passing. Yeah, Boogie 331 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: Basham one of the guys that DJ was talking about there. 332 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: The little Internet connection glitches every once in a while, 333 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: but he is definitely a good player that's kind of 334 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: falling under the radar a little bit just because of 335 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: the team that he plays for, But once he continues 336 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: to work out, he'll probably end up shooting up the 337 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: draft boards a little bit more. Arch, Who do you 338 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: got offense? Defense? Who do you like as far as 339 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: draft available that's going to help this team right away? Well, 340 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: I think I would go defensive side of the football. 341 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a pass rusher that deserves the 342 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: pick to the first five picks of the draft, and 343 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have a top five pick, So so 344 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: now you've got to start evaluating what you need to wear. 345 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: You're picking him. Do you trade back in the draft, 346 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: maybe get you an extra first round pick, and then 347 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: you've got a You've targeted a pass rusher. To me, 348 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: aj Terrell has proven that he's an outstanding corner on 349 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: the outside. I think you need another one. I think 350 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: do you go get Patrick's or tan you go get 351 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: Caleb Fairley, the guy out of Virginia Tech. Two long 352 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: corners that can run, that can play, dump, bump and 353 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: run play to the style that this team is adopted. 354 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: I think that I would look in that direction. Those 355 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: two guys are both rated in the top ten in 356 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: the draft. They would not be a reach. So you 357 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: gotta look that way. I know there's gonna be some 358 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: discussion about quarterback potentially drafting your air apparent to Matt Ryan. 359 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: Certainly that's something you could look at. But who's that guy? 360 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: Because Trevor Lawrence is clearly the best quarterback in the draft. 361 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about justin Fields, I'm not sure about 362 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: Zach Wison, I'm not sure about Trey Lance. Who is 363 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: and so do you roll the dice in your first 364 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: round pick knowing you could get a guy that could 365 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: come in and play right now in your defense like 366 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: we saw with aj Terrell, or do you roll the 367 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: dice on a guy it's not gonna play for you 368 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: probably for another couple of years. That'll be something the 369 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Falcons early have to juggle. Yeah, And I think the 370 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: bigger question mark two, Dave, when you start talking about 371 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks is like, we don't know who the head coach 372 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: is going to be, we don't know who the offensive 373 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: coordinator is going to be, So what is the style 374 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: fit for whatever those quarterbacks that are available in the draft. 375 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: Most people are in agreement that Trevor Lawrence is the 376 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: only can't miss prospect in his draft, But the Falcons 377 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: likely are not going to have a chance at him, 378 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: so a lot of variables fall into the discussion. DJ. 379 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: I was kind of on the same wavelength as you 380 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: as pass rusher, and I looked at a guy like 381 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: Rousseau from Miami. Maybe he ends up being a little 382 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: bit of a stretch like Arch talked about, but we 383 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: just don't know because he opted out this season. He 384 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: had a great year last year in fourteen games. We 385 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to see him in twenty twenty. 386 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: So what has he been doing from his training regimen? 387 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: All that stuff will be determined as we get down 388 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: the road a little bit. But I felt like pass 389 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: rusher was a big need. The other one that was 390 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: interesting to me, guys is yeah, a lot of it 391 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: comes off when you playing against the Chiefs, but they're 392 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: kind of the bar right now, probably along with the 393 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: Packers and the Bills as far as offensive product. Right. 394 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: But it's hard to look past a guy like Tyree Hill, Right, 395 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: how can you find somebody in the middle of the draft, 396 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: like Kansas City did fifth round out of West Alabama, 397 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: a guy that had some off the field issues, but 398 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: a guy that ran four two nine. Okay, we've always 399 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: said that speed kills in the NFL. How about the 400 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: mismatch nightmare that he ends up being in whatever Kansas 401 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: City ends up doing. So, I thought about a guy 402 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: like Cadarius Tony from Florida. Didn't really do much his 403 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: first few years, but this last year had a great season, 404 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: and he's that type of player. A guy that's a 405 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver can run routes down the field, but you 406 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: can also hand him the ball off in the running game. 407 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: He would probably be more of a middle round guy, right, 408 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: isn't that where they say a lot of drafts or 409 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: make or break in the middle rounds? Can you find 410 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: those gems? That's probably where we're gonna end up finding 411 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: some of the best results for Atlanta, as can they 412 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: end up knocking it out of the park in the 413 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: middle rounds. All right, So with that being said, now 414 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: let's have the debate. All right, do you draft for 415 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: need or do you draft for best of all? And 416 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: I think this year is a really good example of it, 417 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: just to your point, Arch, because there's not necessarily a 418 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: pass rusher that is, let's say, worth a fourth or 419 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: fifth overall pick this year. So Dave, maybe it's this year, 420 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: Maybe it's overall. But what are your thoughts on draft 421 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: versus need versus best player available. Well, I like, I 422 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: like certainly best player available. We saw it happen for Atlanta, 423 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: what like in twenty eighteen when Calvin Ridley was still 424 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: on the board, the probably one of the top fifteen 425 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: rated guys, and you looked up at twenty six and 426 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley is still on the board and you went 427 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: and got him. It's paid pretty good dividends now as 428 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: it equated the wins. No, but he's he's had an 429 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: outstanding Here's gonna end up with about fourteen hundred yards 430 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: receiving this season, and he's got he's gonna if he 431 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: gets one more touchdown, he's gonna have more touchdowns than 432 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: anybody in their first three seasons than you're playing. They're 433 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: playing the position. So that was a pretty good draft. 434 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: That was the best player available, right. It was not 435 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: necessarily something you needed because your receiver corps was pretty 436 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: good with Sanou and Jones, and you went and got Ridley. 437 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: I thought that was a pretty good move. But I 438 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: think you got to try to mesh the two together. 439 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: Playing at four. There's a lot more equation here in 440 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: the equation. Guys. It's the ability to if you see 441 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: a guy or you've got some needs, whether it's corner, 442 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: Let's say it's one of those corners, and you want 443 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: to trade back, somebody wants to jump up and grab 444 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback, you can grow back. You may be able 445 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: to get yourself another first round pick, and now all 446 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're drafting inside the top ten potentially 447 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: with somebody. And then you jump back in in the 448 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: twenties somewhere and you get two of the top twenty 449 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: five thirty guys in the draft, and you address a corner, 450 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: a pass rusher, a corner, and a running back. How 451 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: about Naga Harris sitting in the back end of the 452 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: draft on the first round at six two, two thirty, 453 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: and you could get him at twenty five because you 454 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: were able to trade back and use that for some 455 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: capital to get you a couple of players. That's going 456 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: to be interesting to me. Yeah, great discussion. And point there, Dave, 457 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: because we didn't really talk about as far as needs 458 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: for Atlanta is the running back element. They've got to 459 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: find some balance, they've got to find some threat to 460 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: where teams are actually cons that Atlanta is gonna run 461 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: the football and they're gonna be able to do it effectively. 462 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: They thought by bringing in Todd Gurley that would happen, 463 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: and it hasn't yet this year. DJ, Where do you 464 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: fall on this one best player available draft for need 465 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: or is it some combination of the two. You know, 466 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: I think Arc made a bunch of the points. And 467 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: the thing that went to my mind that was the 468 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: running back position. You gotta just talked about. And when 469 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: I think about the running back position and you say 470 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: draft for need, I feel like need means upgrade. Need 471 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: means somebody who can come in and give you value 472 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: right now. And I think when your draft for need, 473 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: it gives you an opportunity to get the guys that 474 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: can come in and reway and they can feel the 475 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: void that you're missing. Like you can watch the tape. 476 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: You can see them, and you can see in games 477 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: where you need certain spots to play better. Now. Availability 478 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: for guys who have been around are also are great. 479 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you go, like you just mentioned with Calvin, 480 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: really that's an outstanding pick. I mean I remember a 481 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: few years back we traded up to get Julio Jones 482 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: because he was, you know, available and we had to 483 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: go get him. Well, here's the time where I think 484 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: need is really crucial because of some of the spots 485 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: that you've seen this year that may have been a 486 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: week spot and we mentioned a few. I love the 487 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: fact we're talking about corners. You look at this league 488 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: where you got receivers galore everywhere, having multiple guys, and 489 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: we've seen it this year. Teams are gonna stretch your article. 490 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: Teams are gonna stretch you in the run game if 491 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: you need a back. And I love Naja Harris and 492 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: I love his billy butt, the catching ball at the backfield, 493 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: similar to what we saw when Girly came out. Big 494 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: physical back but also can hurt you in the past game. 495 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: And Naja Harris fits that mold really well. Not to 496 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: fit this offense and what they like to do very well. 497 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: Hey Ra, Yeah, when you when you start talking about 498 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: about the draft, and it'll be very interesting. It's gonna 499 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: be an important draft for the Falcons in that we 500 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: know that there's some cap issues, right, so you're not 501 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna necessarily be able to go out and shop like 502 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: you want to in the open market in free agency. 503 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: So I think you could probably qualify and quantify this 504 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: draft as one of the most important drafts the Falcons 505 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: have had in recent history. You might have to go 506 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: all the way back to two thous eight when Matt 507 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: Ryan was in that draft. We had to Curtis lofton 508 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: inside linebacker. I think Harry Douglas was in that draft 509 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: as well. Guys, it came int played right away. That's 510 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: what you're gonna have to do in this draft. You're 511 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: gonna have to go get guys that could come in 512 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: and plug and play because I don't think you're gonna 513 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: be able to go shopping as much as you would 514 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: like to. Yeah, and early on, guys, and I don't 515 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: know why, I just keep feeling this, but like early on, 516 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: I feel like this is a draft to your point, Dave, 517 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: where whoever this new general manager is might end up 518 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: being creative what that first round pick, but try trying 519 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: to stockpile picks, because if he starts analyzing the salary 520 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: cap situation, unless there ends up being some very creative 521 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: ways that they release players that freeze up some money, 522 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: You're right, they're not gonna be able to go out 523 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: and find that pass rusher and pay them all whatever 524 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: it ends up being one hundred and fifty million dollars. 525 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: They just may not have the financial wherewithal to do that. 526 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: So maybe they do end up trading a little bit 527 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: in the first round to try to stockpile some picks 528 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: and try to build this thing with some young, talented players. 529 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: Maybe one of the reasons why there's some cap issues 530 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: is because of Julio Joe And I'll throw this one out. 531 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: What about an All Alabama wide receiver corps By drafting 532 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: a DeVante Smith he ends up being available, does he 533 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: end up helping this offense? Do they have too many receivers? 534 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: Guys can't have too many guys that go catch the rock. 535 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm play quarterback, you guys. I love guys who go 536 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: get to football. You kidding me? Look at quarterbacks. You 537 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: couldn't wait to jump in on that one. Yeah. I'm 538 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: just saying like, the guy is a is a legitimate playmaker, 539 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: and if the Falcons stay where they're at, I don't know, 540 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: maybe DeVante Smith is a little bit of a reach 541 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: at that four or five position, depending on how things 542 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: shake out in this last game, but he's gonna be 543 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: a player that's gonna be available to the Atlanta Falcons. 544 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Do they decide to go all Alabama and end up 545 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: being Crimson tied out wide who ends up knowing, But 546 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure if it's Matt Ryan or whoever ends up being, 547 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: they'll be happy to have those weapons outside. So I think, guys, 548 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: we both kind of have all three of us have 549 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't know a varying opinion, but I feel like 550 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: this is the year where it's gonna be a little 551 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: bit more about best player available, because I don't know 552 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: what certain teams, like the Atlanta Falcons, if they've got 553 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: that person that's sitting there where they need them that's 554 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: worth it at four or five that fits exactly what 555 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: they need. So we'll end up seeing how that shakes out. 556 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk a bunch more about that as this thing 557 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: ends up moving on into the offseason. But some very 558 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: interesting decisions, as you mentioned, David DJ for the Atlanta Falcons, 559 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to personnel in the draft over 560 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: the next few months, that are going to be very 561 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: important to them turning around things here in twenty twenty one, guys, 562 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: I got let me give you one last second here, DJ. 563 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: Falcons travel to Raymond James this weekend and play the Bucks. 564 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: What are you thinking about for this game. It's Week seventeen, 565 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: sixteenth game of the year. What do you think for 566 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: the Falcons against Tom Brady and company? Well, I think 567 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: it's one more opportunity for you to put something on 568 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: Tapepe matters and to put something on tape four A 569 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: player standpopoint Tom Brady to the guy who knows exactly 570 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: what this game means at the Vision rival. Go out 571 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: and play your style which you played the last couple 572 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: of weeks, but go out to get a win. Man, 573 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: play good, play solid in all three, and put some 574 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: good the Falcons fans something positive going into the tent. 575 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: He wanted to feel really good about that. Hey, at 576 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: least we finished off the season, would have win well. 577 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: I want the guys to go out on a high note, 578 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: no doubt. Arch. What kind of positivity do you are 579 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: you thinking about in this final game for the Falcons. 580 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: I want to see Matt Hennessy on the field again. Guys. 581 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: I thought your run game improved with Hennessey and Gono 582 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: in the interior offensive line. I think they're more physical, 583 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: had a few issues with pass blocking. They're going to 584 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: get a nice opportunity to go get another solid defensive front, 585 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: get them some more playtime. No offense to Alex mac 586 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: but his career is probably done here, his contracts up. 587 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: You drafted Hennessy for a reason. I'd like to see 588 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: you get some playtime with those two guys and see 589 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: if Hey, those two big guys along with Chris Lindstrom 590 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: young players in the interior, is that the future of 591 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: your offensive line? Yeah, it's the opportunity in this final 592 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: game of the season, with really nothing as far as 593 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: postseason goes on the line, does Raheem Morrison company make 594 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: a couple of adjustments to get some guys some playing time, 595 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: get some things on tape, and see if they've got 596 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: anything to work with. Who don't ra Hay Morris may 597 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: not even be here next year, he might be on 598 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: the staff. But to give whoever comes in a little 599 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: glimpse at what twenty twenty one's gonna look like. Well, 600 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: speaking of twenty twenty, I think it's gonna be the 601 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: final podcast of twenty twenty. And we apologize to our 602 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: viewers for any of the technical difficulties that have come 603 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: through this podcast, But guess what, it's twenty twenty and 604 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: Sam Larson, our fearless member of our digital team is 605 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: going to do some magic and he's gonna make us 606 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: look and sound great, so we appreciate that. But with that, 607 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and close things out. Dave DJ, thanks 608 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: so much for your insight once again on this podcast. 609 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: We will be back next week after the game against 610 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. Hopefully things will be much more clean and 611 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: Chris and we'll have some some wonderful insight for our 612 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: viewers about things after the Falcons game this week. Guys, 613 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. I'm Derek Rackley. Once again, we're 614 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: signing off from the Falcon's Audible presented by AT and T. 615 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: We will see you next time. Take care of one 616 00:27:52,240 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: new year. Year. You're listening to Falcons Audible presented by 617 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: AT and T h