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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. I'm Stucky

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Speaker 3: and with me as always as Colin Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Today we have the PAC twelve betting preview.

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Speaker 3: Which I'm actually really excited to get into because this

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Speaker 3: isn't Clemson gonna win the ACC, Ohio State gonna win

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Speaker 3: the Big Ten. This is wide open both divisions. A

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Speaker 3: lot of back and forth arguing. I think it's a

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Speaker 3: fascinating conference this.

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Speaker 1: Year, the PAC twelve conference. At least we're not the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: You excited to get into the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was a conference that you and I had

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Speaker 4: debated years past, like throwing it away doing the group

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Speaker 4: of five first.

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Speaker 2: We want to do the sun Belt. But there is

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Speaker 2: a healthy set of teams, especially in the South, a

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Speaker 2: healthy set of teams that can win that division. I

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Speaker 2: think there's a lot of unknowns going on in the North.

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Speaker 4: One team we really don't like, two teams that are

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Speaker 4: really just kind of a coin flip against each other.

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Speaker 4: There's so much talking point and college football is so

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Speaker 4: lucky to have some great viewing product.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Whether you can find the Pac twelve network on your

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Speaker 4: TV this fall is one thing, but man, to me,

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Speaker 4: Pack twelve is exciting this season.

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Speaker 2: Very We're gonna get into every team.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk favorite wind totals, favorite futures, Pack twelve

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Speaker 3: championship game prediction. We'll even get into some sponsors. Well,

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Speaker 3: we'll have some Walter White quotes I think from Breaking Bad. Well,

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Speaker 3: you don't know why. You probably don't know why. You'll

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Speaker 3: soon find out, and that might be a theme throughout

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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 2: But let's dive right in here. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: forward to a big college football year, just like last year.

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Speaker 3: And the good news is, look, I'm so happy. I'm

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Speaker 3: even more or ecstatic to be talking Pack twelve because

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Speaker 3: I just got done watching the Diamondbacks lose a four blow,

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Speaker 3: an extra innings and I'm now three and fourteen extra

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Speaker 3: innings this year. I'm still up in baseball somehow. But

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Speaker 3: I'm going like ten and one in overtimes this year.

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Speaker 3: If you have a dog, it's just a couple less

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Speaker 3: extra overtimes you have to sweat. Have lost a plus

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Speaker 4: What we're looking for this year is having minus three

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Speaker 3: PAC twelve. Really fascinating conference this year. Only new coach

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Speaker 3: As far from an odds perspective, Oregon's plus two sixty

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Speaker 3: the PAC twelve North. It's a two team race in

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Speaker 1: Washington, the Oregon Ducks and the Washington Huskies.

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Speaker 3: So most likely that game is going to determine who

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on that? And then not take

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Speaker 4: Well, one of these teas I think should be taken

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Speaker 4: I am way lower on organ than a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: But it goes to your point that that is a

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of takeaways from Jimmy Lake. In year one,

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Speaker 2: They're not going to change who they are.

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Speaker 4: The defensive success rate's going to be there, the havoc's

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Speaker 4: And with Anthony Brown, you have a ceiling at quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: But these teams are so similar in so many different ways,

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Speaker 2: We just went over all the uncertainy for both teams.

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Speaker 3: already talked about Oregon's tough schedule. So I don't play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean to add on to that, I

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Speaker 4: Plus one seventy five on Washington to when the North

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Speaker 2: Head to head against each other.

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Speaker 4: I think with Oregon, I can just there are so

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Speaker 4: The Ducks were ninety eighth in offensive havoc last year,

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Speaker 2: Tim de Ruter comes in from Cal.

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Speaker 4: He was co coordinator with someone we'll talk about later

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Speaker 2: And really it's the rush defense that worries me about

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Speaker 4: Defense has cavid On Thibodeau right, probably number one overall

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Speaker 2: But if you look at Tim de Ruter's numbers.

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Speaker 2: When Tim de Rudifirst got there, they were tenth, Cal

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Speaker 4: So Organ's gonna be tough to beat in passing downs

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Speaker 4: And if you're gonna get this win total on the over,

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Speaker 4: They have to sweep the remaining schedule that includes Ucla.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get to Ucla. But the Bruins finish the

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Speaker 4: I'm taking the under on the total.

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Speaker 2: Point.

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Speaker 3: There were one hundred and twenty first in the nation

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Speaker 1: The Stanford Cardinal, which.

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Speaker 3: But here's the problem.

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Speaker 3: A lot of flukes in there, and they everything kind

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Speaker 3: They lose This is David Charles eleventh year. They lose

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Speaker 3: And you're gonna tell us why we should at the

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Speaker 3: under on the tree.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm watching the juice fly up on the

442
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 4: over on this Stanford team, and I'm starting to see

443
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 4: people overreact to Tanner McKee and one four straight. Well,

444
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 4: let's quantify that a little bit. Those four straight wins

445
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,880
Speaker 4: came by a combined total of ten points. They took

446
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 4: a massive dip in second order win total for me

447
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 4: from a power rating perspective, and think about what the

448
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 4: Stanford offense has been and why it was so successful

449
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 4: before because of their explosiveness factor, because of Bryce Love,

450
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 4: because of Davis Mills, because of kJ Costello, because of.

451
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Speaker 2: The perfectly.

452
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 4: Can't defend tip drill that their wide receivers and tight

453
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 4: ends did to everybody.

454
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Speaker 2: It was just it was frustrating to look at their stats.

455
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 4: Week in and week out, place a bet against them

456
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 4: and all they would do is a damn tip drill

457
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 4: with these tree receivers that were literally the size of trees.

458
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 4: So we think that era of football is gone now.

459
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Speaker 4: You know, they fall outside the rank of nintieth and

460
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 4: both rushing and passing expected points. That's complemented by a

461
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 4: rank of ninety third and finishing drives on offense and

462
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 4: listen They're just not moving very fast for one of

463
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 4: the slowest teams in the conference, and that is bad news.

464
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 4: And a conference full of teams that can get points

465
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Speaker 4: on the.

466
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 2: Board lightning quick.

467
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 4: So you know, tarp indicates forty three percent of the

468
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Speaker 4: offenses back and really it's just Tanner McKee. Stanford finished

469
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 4: the season four and two, but there's going to be

470
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 4: a lot of holes to fill on the offensive line.

471
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Speaker 2: Drew Dolman, Foster, Cerril. They've moved on.

472
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 4: Dolman was the highest rated run blocker and took all

473
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 4: of foreign and thirty seven snaps at center. Nobody else

474
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 4: took a snap at center last year. They got to

475
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 4: replace that. The rest of the line was solid. They

476
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 4: allowed just six sacks, so that is good news. In

477
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 4: a quarter of the pressures came from guard Branson Braggs,

478
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 4: so you know, the line is solid. It's going to

479
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 4: be fine. But the rest of it is the explosiveness

480
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 4: has gone the backfield. The defense isn't much better in

481
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 4: the tarp department either, fifty five percent returns. You know,

482
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 4: Curtis Robinson led the team in tackles, Malik Antoine leading

483
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 4: pass breakups. Both those players are gone. They're ranked one

484
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: hundred and nineteenth in defensive habit. They're not taking balls away,

485
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: they're not stopping people. And I think it's important to say, like, well,

486
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 4: who do they beat right on this schedule, And everybody's

487
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 4: pointing to that Vanderbilt game, Well, Kansas State. I'm already

488
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 4: hearing love over Kansas State. Name a player on this

489
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 4: defense is stopping duce Vaughan from explosive plays.

490
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: I can't find one.

491
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 4: I'm being honest, like, I cannot find anybody on this

492
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 4: Stanford defense it's going to be able to contain duce Vaughn,

493
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 4: Skyler Thompson completely healthy. Kansas State completely healthy is different

494
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 4: than Kansas State beat up. Vanderbilt is scheduled to be

495
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 4: the clear cut victory on this schedule, but that game

496
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 4: comes on the road against clark Lee.

497
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Speaker 2: We are clark Lee believers.

498
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 4: I mean, school of Mike Elco turned the Notre Dame

499
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 4: defense around, the reasons why they made the marches of

500
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 4: the college role playoff because of clark Lee. And you know,

501
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 4: you have to wonder what they're going to do on offense.

502
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 4: That's a good question. But then again, can Stanford do

503
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Speaker 4: if Vanderbilt is playing you know, above level defense on

504
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 4: day one against this Stanford offense, they're gonna be able

505
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 4: to shut them down. I don't know why Vanderbilt isn't

506
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 4: a live dog in that game, and everybody assumes that

507
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: it's an automatic win. The trees they just you know,

508
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 4: like you said, they don't have a single group of

509
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 4: five program. I mean, they have their regular bye weeks.

510
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 4: A lot of colleges use the week with Georgia Southern

511
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 4: or what saving calls.

512
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: You know, the ten horn ran through like shit through

513
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: a ten horn. You all don't remember the Georgia Southern game,

514
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: do you. I don't think we had a guy on

515
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: that field that didn't play in the NFL in About

516
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 2: four or five of them were first round draft picks,

517
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: and they run through our ass like shit through a

518
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 2: ten horn man, and we could not stop them.

519
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 4: Ten Horn weekend doesn't exist for Stanford this year. There's

520
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 4: no real bye weeks. Is that the actual bye week?

521
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 4: So I'm definitely on the under with Stanford. The explosiveness,

522
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 4: the tip drills, it's not there anymore. Success rate is gone.

523
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 4: There's no havoc makers on this defense whatsoever. And everybody's

524
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 4: basing their hopes on a freshman quarterback that I mean,

525
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: frankly doesn't have any pieces around them to support the

526
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 4: love for this. So yeah, count me all out on

527
00:23:59,680 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 4: the tree.

528
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Shawls said he's just so conservative, So Shall

529
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: said he's gonna go back to many more two to

530
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: three tight end stats, running the ball more. I know

531
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: Kansas State and Stanford's deep were not good last year,

532
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 3: but that's a noonkick to start the year. I could

533
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: see that game being like twenty to seventeen ugliness. I

534
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: might look at that under well, that's probably in the fifties.

535
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 3: I didn't even look at it.

536
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 2: All right. Let's move on to Cal.

537
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: The Golden Bears of Cal.

538
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: Cal win total under six and a half minus one

539
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 3: forty five or under six around even money. Will Cox

540
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: year five at the Helm, he's twenty one and twenty one.

541
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: So you know, if you go based on that and

542
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: the wind total is six, Cal's gonna end right on six.

543
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: He's been a five hundred coach in his four years there.

544
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 3: You know he's not been five hundred, is Chase Garver's.

545
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: Cal's been a lot better when he's playing in healthy.

546
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: He hasn't always been healthy. But Cal's fourteen and five

547
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: when he plays at least a half and as it saw,

548
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: will Cox is twenty one and twenty one overall, so

549
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 3: can he stay healthy. Can Christopher Brown stay healthy and

550
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 3: regain his old form. That's a big question because the

551
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: receivers leave a lot to be desired. They were one

552
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty third in pass yards per attempt. They

553
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: don't really have a field stretcher. The strength of the

554
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: team is probably their linebackers with Dan Good, but they

555
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: lost their top two defensive lineman. Losing Brett Johnson in

556
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 3: the spring is huge. You have hip surgery. He's one

557
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: of their best defenders. They lost buying them their cornerback

558
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: who was drafted in the fourth round.

559
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: So there's some.

560
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: Questions on this defense that it has lost a lot

561
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 3: of players in the secondary over the past few years

562
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 3: to the NFL. You look at their schedule, their three

563
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: toughest pack twelve North opponents Washington, Oregon, and Stanford.

564
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: They play all.

565
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: On the road, so there's you know, this offense, it's just,

566
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's ugly to watch. And last year their

567
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: offense averaged one hundred and twenty two yards per game,

568
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: fewer than their opponents allowed on average. I was second

569
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: worst in the nation, So it was just really bad.

570
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: And if Garber's isn't healthy, there's no real quarterback depth here.

571
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: If you want to look at Plus what their second

572
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: team all pack twelve offensive lineman Saffle. He retired recently

573
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: due to medical reasons.

574
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: So I know that there's some experience here with some

575
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: super seniors.

576
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: And if you want to make a case for CAL,

577
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 3: you say, must grade second year offensive coordinator.

578
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: Does the system tick up?

579
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 3: And as you know, there's a production tick up in

580
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: the second year of a system. As long as Garber

581
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: states healthy. I look at this schedule. I make this

582
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: right around six tad below. They're probably going to be

583
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: right on bowls, right on the fringe of bowl eligibility

584
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: towards the end of the year.

585
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: I have nothing with CAL. What do you got here?

586
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, mathematically the number I have comes up above six,

587
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: and it would say that you should take an over

588
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: bet here. But at the same time, there's so many

589
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 4: questions that I'm not going to be investing my money

590
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 4: into a program like this when you know you look

591
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: at the number of things that have happened here. So

592
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 4: Tim de Ruter takes off for Oregon as the new

593
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator. He had co duties with Peter Sermon for

594
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 4: the last couple years. Peter Sermon will now be the

595
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: sole defensive coordinator, So we'll see what the difference is there.

596
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 4: We'll see if some of that success rate comes back,

597
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 4: some of that haveit comes back with the Ruter gone,

598
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 4: or maybe does it get worse. I guess we'll find

599
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: out pretty quick. But with Justin will Cox, you would

600
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 4: expect that the defense will return.

601
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: This was a team that.

602
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 4: Was just decimated by COVID, decimated by injury. You can't

603
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 4: look at anything that col did last year and take

604
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 4: it as a variable into this season. I this is

605
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: one of the few teams where I mean, I'll take

606
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 4: little things from teams last year and kind of look

607
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: at it. But considering that, you know, Sermon is now

608
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: the only coordinator. When I look at the offensive side

609
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: of the ball, Musgrave Bill Muskrave was the new offensive

610
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: coordinator last year, but he made a statement that said

611
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: the offense is going to completely change because what I

612
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 4: did last year was a complete change of the playbook

613
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 4: to modify to the health of the the personnel that

614
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: we have on the offense. So the offense that was

615
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 4: ran last year wasn't what he wanted to run, and

616
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: it was based upon what he had going on with

617
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: COVID and injuries in the offensive line, with Garber's with

618
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 4: everything else. So I kind of wipe all these numbers

619
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 4: away from Cal. I just the defense is going to

620
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 4: come back to what it has been before, the offense,

621
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: the super seniors all over this program. So I'm not

622
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: worried about cal falling off a cliff as to where

623
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: I really have problems with what Stanford has been. I mean,

624
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 4: you're going to twelve and thirteen, you know, three tight

625
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: end sets in a conference that lives and dies on

626
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: getting up and down the field at a lightning pace.

627
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 4: You know Chip Kelly the way that he wants to

628
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: run the ball. So if a cop can't really do

629
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: that either, they cannot.

630
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: They can't. They got to find a receiver that can

631
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: stretch the field. But they can play defense, It's fair, yeah,

632
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: I mean they can, they can. They have a lot

633
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: of have They play a lot of defense.

634
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: And remember we were big backers of betting on Cal

635
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: weekly in eighteen and nineteen and what killed us turnovers?

636
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: Manage four or five turners every time. So if we

637
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: get efficiency out of Chase Garber's This is a play

638
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: on team every week. We don't know how many points

639
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 4: are going to score, but hopefully they can limit their opponents.

640
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: Like I said, I'm not rushing to go and bet

641
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: cal futures, but I'm also not taking last year and

642
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: applying it and saying this team is definitely an under

643
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: team when they got so many super seniors and they

644
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: had so much missing from COVID. It's such a small

645
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 4: sample set from last year. I think one thing that

646
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: does bother me on the schedule is listen, you can

647
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: beat Arizona and Sacramento State was picked number one for

648
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: the Big Sky.

649
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: The media for the Big Sky.

650
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: I want to get credentialed into that, but the media

651
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: for the Big Sky has Sacramento State first in that conference.

652
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 4: So that's not really an easy game for cal I

653
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 4: would say by any means, I mean sax State's beaten

654
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: teams in the Pac twelve before Nevada is going to

655
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 4: be a test with quarterback Carson Strong, so in the

656
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: Mountain West in general is going to be improved. But Stanford,

657
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: Washington State, Colorado, those are coin flip games. They have

658
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: to win all these games I just mentioned to go

659
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: over the win total. I just don't they can do it.

660
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: I'm just not running to the window to buy it.

661
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Let's move on to the Beavers. Oregon State.

662
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: The Oregon State Beavers. Let's go Beavers.

663
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: Oregon State went total under five minus one twenty five.

664
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: This is year four for Jonathan Smith. But I think

665
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: has the program slowly moving in the right direction. They

666
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: were two and five last year, but at least they

667
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: were competitive. No Bowl since twenty thirteen, So if you

668
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: think they're going to go over here, though this would

669
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: be their first Bowl appearance in eight years, there are

670
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: quarterback health questions here. I think the strength of their

671
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: offense is their offensive line and because they lose Jefferson,

672
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: Tomar Jefferson was a studded running back. If you look

673
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: at Oregon State last year, number two in the country

674
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: in EPA per rush, so they were It weren't a

675
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: great throwing team. They were just handed off with a

676
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 3: great offense line and a great back, and they had

677
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: a lot of success. Now they lose Jefferson, can another

678
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: back come in and step up the defensive side. They

679
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: do lose for Shadow in a down year last year,

680
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: but their linebackers are still really strong with Roberts and

681
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: Hm in spite, but their DUS doesn't force turnovers thirty

682
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: turnovers in the past thirty one games. That's the third

683
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: lowest in FBS. They don't get any tackles for loss

684
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteenth that tackled for loss last year,

685
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: and they got to replace two cornerbacks and they'll really

686
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: miss right. So I have questions about their defense outside

687
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: of their linebackers, which can only you know, who can

688
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: only do so much. And then I look at their schedule.

689
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: You know, their defense does bring a lot back twenty

690
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: three or the twenty seven of their two deep come back.

691
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: But you know, you might have two freshman d backs

692
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: starting and they just are not getting a lot of havoc.

693
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: They don't get a lot of pressure. And this is

694
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: transfer year. They might be starting twelve twelve transfers, not

695
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: all this year, but over the past couple of years.

696
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: Smith's really use the transfer portal.

697
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: But then I look at their schedule and they have

698
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: five pack twelve road games. So every team plays nine

699
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: conference games, some have five ro games, some are four.

700
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: Oregon set has five packed twelve row games and then

701
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: four tough home games. So this schedule is not kind

702
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: Oregon State under one twenty five.

703
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: What do you got here?

704
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, for some reason, Jonathan Smith is using the transfer

705
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: portal for his team, but Jed Fish down at Arizona

706
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 4: is not. So we'll get to that one later. But

707
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 4: you know, the final record was two and five last year.

708
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 4: But this was a big season for the Jonathan Smith era.

709
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: Why because he beat Oregon and that's you know, that's

710
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 4: they could lose every game and beat Oregon and that's

711
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: going to keep him employed for quite a while. When

712
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: you look at it, you know whether you want to

713
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: slice it from TARP, which is transfer activity and returning production,

714
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 4: or if you want to slice it as returning starters

715
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: at ten and TARP is at eighty eight percent. Listen,

716
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: that's a really tough player to try and replace. When

717
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: it comes to Jamar Jefferson, he was a human first down,

718
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: when you look at his numbers that he averaged six

719
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 4: point five yards per attempt, nineteen runs over ten yards,

720
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 4: and he created twenty seven mistackles in a short season.

721
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: So now Deshaun Finwick, he's going to try to pick

722
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: up the load he comes in from the transfer portal

723
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: from South Carolina. If you dig a little bit deep

724
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: into that sophomore's numbers, he had a quality five point

725
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: five yards on fifty four attempts with an average of

726
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: three point five yards after contact. Now, whether he's playing

727
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 4: in you know, in junk time or whatever, for South Carolina,

728
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: averaging three point five yards after contact is quality.

729
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: So we'll see if he can.

730
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 4: You know, get the Jamar Jefferson, keep that train rolling

731
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: on the offense and listen. You know they return a

732
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: top set of wide receivers. They do have players on

733
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: the outside they can throw to, and the quarterback. If

734
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 4: you're betting preseason on who's going to be the starting quarterback,

735
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: this is a good one for you. Between Tristan Gebba,

736
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: Chance Nolan, the Colorado transfer Sam Noyer. I mean, Sam

737
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: Noyer made us a little bit of money last year,

738
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: and I think the thing that gives Tristan Gebba more

739
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: of a leg up than the rest of them is

740
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 4: his arm strength. He's going to be the one that's

741
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: can be will pass and hit those receivers as we're

742
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: a Chance Nolan and Sam Noyer. If you look at

743
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: what they did on designed runs and scramble yards. They're

744
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 4: kind of the same player when you take Colorado's numbers

745
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: versus what Nolan did in order State when he played

746
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 4: last year. So you know, we'll see who wins that

747
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: quarterback battle. But all these things I say about the

748
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: offense and the quarterbacks and who all returns and transfers

749
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: coming to South clar all of that is orbiting around

750
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: the biggest problem on the team, which is the rush defense.

751
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: They do return a high percentage of tart but does

752
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 4: that matter when you rank one hundred and nineteenth and

753
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: success rate or one hundred and eighteenth in havoc? Is

754
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: it good to get all of these players back because

755
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 4: you may get the same kind of production in the numbers.

756
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: Nashaun Wright led the team in pass breakups, but he's

757
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 4: moved on. Line linebacker Avery Roberts was the highest graded

758
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 4: defender in twenty twenty, and he's going to look to

759
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: stabilize the defense. But they were one hundred and twelve

760
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 4: in the line yards. If you're bring the same players back,

761
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: you better have some strength and conditioning coaches around there

762
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: getting them better, because you know they were ninety second coverage.

763
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: So it doesn't matter if we talk about what they

764
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 4: were in standard downs or passing downs. It's Oregon State

765
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: defense just didn't do much, So you know that's something

766
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to overcome. They're not gonna have to

767
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: outscore people and hope that the clock doesn't get drained

768
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: against them. And it's been a problem through the entire

769
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 4: job that's been there. The rush defense continues to be

770
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 4: a problem in Corvallis, and I don't think.

771
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: That's going to change.

772
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 4: You know, their win total is I project them at

773
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 4: five point nine. There's plenty of reasons to bet the

774
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: over on the Beavers despite losing the best running back

775
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 4: in the conference. But early home games against Hawaii and Idaho,

776
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: you know, Oregon State should be double digits there, and

777
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: then there's just a massive Then there's just a massive

778
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 4: number of coin flip games against Washington State, against Calias

779
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: Colorado until the defense shows rapid improvement and especially in

780
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 4: success rate and in Havoc. There's just no resistance against

781
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 4: a PAC twelve schedule that has USC and Utah from

782
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: the South Division. Those teams are going to be able

783
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: to go wild, whether it's the air raid in USC

784
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 4: or whether it's.

785
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: A ton of ways that Utah can beat you.

786
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: I just don't see where Oregon State is sneaking up

787
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: on anybody here, and that defense is not stopping anyone.

788
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 4: So no play here on Oregon State.

789
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I lean.

790
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 3: Under by my numbers too close, so it's no play

791
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: for me. The organ State hopes that Minnesota transfer joke

792
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: dot shod defensive tackle can help them, but they're just

793
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: they're they're just small and they just don't get pressure

794
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: up front and they get pushed around.

795
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: You're right.

796
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: And then on the flip side, they were such a

797
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 3: great rushing team last year. I mean, Jefferson was awesome.

798
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: Like I said, they were number two in EPA per rush.

799
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: So we were talking about their quarterback and receivers. If

800
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: their rushing production falls off a cliff and they're not

801
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: able to fill the void left by Jefferson, then you know,

802
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: teams aren't having to load the box up trying to

803
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: stop Jefferson, and then all of a sudden does your quarterback.

804
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: Then quarterback plays suffer as well. They were definitely benefiting

805
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: from a lot of attention on Jefferson.

806
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: But I agree passed there for me as well.

807
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: Let's finish up the North with a play that I

808
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: do have in Washington State.

809
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: The Washington State Cougars under.

810
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: Six minus won twenty. A lot of books, I found

811
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: an under six and a half minus one fifty. I

812
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: think a points bet. It was either a points bet

813
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: or off to.

814
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: Put in the app.

815
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: I prefer under six and a half minus one fifty

816
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: over six minus one twenty. I don't see how this

817
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 3: team gets the seven ones. I don't think they get

818
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: the six. But there's a lot I don't like about

819
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: Washington State this year. You know, number one it is

820
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: this you can't really put too much stock into. Like

821
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: we said, a lot of teams last year in the

822
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: Pac twelve, but especially Washington State. You know, Nick Rolovich

823
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: coming over implementing his run and shoot offense, which is

824
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: you know, it's completely different than the air raid. We know,

825
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: one receivers have predesign routes, the other they're trying to

826
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: find space. You know, your spacing is different with your

827
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: offensive lineman. He also brought in a new defensive coordinator.

828
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: They'd moved to a four two five, So just a

829
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: lot of changes in a year like last in his

830
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 3: first year, it's very tough. So but you know, looking

831
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: at this roster, this year. Who I know. I just

832
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: think that it's gonna take a little longer. I know

833
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: it's year two role which but really it's like year

834
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: one because how much could to do last year? It

835
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: was such drastic changes and they couldn't really get a

836
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: lot done last year. They lose Calvin and vacant receivers

837
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: who leave the program, Bell their stud y the slot.

838
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: He got hurt. He's out for the year.

839
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: Huge loss. I don't know who they can throw to.

840
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: I get that, you know Max Borgy. Their running backs

841
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 3: are okay, and then you moved to the quarterback position.

842
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: I mean DeLaura who ran the run and shoot in

843
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: high school, so he has experience doing so. He missed

844
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: the entire spring with the DUI suspension. I think he

845
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: just got it dismissed, but he missed the whole spring.

846
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: And then you got Jared Guarantano from Tennessee, who we hate,

847
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: who's just terrible. He doesn't really fit the run and shoot.

848
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: He's there Rocky Top Revenge.

849
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: And then you got Cannon who's who's also there, and

850
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a three way competition up until maybe

851
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: the week before their first game. So no quarterback really

852
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: has a merchant. They don't know who QB one is

853
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: and I don't know who they're throwing the ball to

854
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: the receivers are. I mean, it's a mess right now.

855
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: And then on the defensive side, it was a disaster

856
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 3: last year and I think it's just going to take

857
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: some time to transition to that four two five. Their

858
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 3: linebackers are good, woods can ball, but I mean they've

859
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: had a bunch just at safeties transfer. Their depth is

860
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: really questionable there they're past he was just atrocious last year.

861
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: I don't see that changing. I think that's gonna really

862
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: be their downfall. And twenty seven percent of opponent plays

863
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: last year went for ten plus yards. That was the

864
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: second worst than off of college football. I mean, teams

865
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: are just chunking it all down the field and they

866
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: had no exposed to us on their own. They were

867
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty fifth of the exposed to this

868
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: on offense. So a lot of changes going on. I

869
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: mean when they went from twenty two percent rush two

870
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 3: years ago to forty two percent, they're changing their splits

871
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: and there's.

872
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: A lot going on.

873
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: They got five and then you look at their schedule,

874
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: they got five road games, and I think that they're start.

875
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: They're figuring things out right with all these changes, so

876
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: it might take them, you know, say they start to

877
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: figure some things out midway through the season.

878
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: Well, their finish is brutal, right.

879
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: They finished BYU and then at Arizona State, then at Oregon,

880
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: then they get a break with Arizona at home, and

881
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: then they finish at Washington five pack twelve road games.

882
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: It's just, yeah, there's a lot I don't like about

883
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: this Washington station. I don't see how they could get

884
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: the seven so under six and a half minus one

885
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: fifty I really like. And then one last point is

886
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: Nick Rolovich just didn't go to media day because he's

887
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: said he's not getting vaccinated, right, So does that and

888
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: this is all speculation, does that translate to his players?

889
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: And do they have a low vaccination right? And now

890
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: are they at a higher risk of losing games like

891
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: player games the amount of players that have to be

892
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: held out because of COVID outbreaks. So that's something else

893
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: to consider as well. So Washington State under six and

894
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: a half minus one fifty, under six minus up to

895
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: minus one twenty is fine. Two, but I prefer paying

896
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 3: that extra thirty cents and you can find at six

897
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: and a half.

898
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: So I'm going under.

899
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: On Lazoo the Wazoo Kugs.

900
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 4: I think it's a great play and there's a lot

901
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 4: of questions that I have same similar to what you have.

902
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: And you know, from a defensive perspective, John Woods is

903
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 4: the only one that was putting up having numbers and

904
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 4: tackles for lost pass breakups and sacks. And then no

905
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: one else was bringing the boom, no one else was

906
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 4: taking the ball away, and teams were just able to

907
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 4: do whatever they wanted against the Cougars, which put everything

908
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: on the run and shoot. And Jaden Delora's back, you know,

909
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 4: a freshman at the time and now he knows the system,

910
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 4: but you know missed out on spring. And if Jared

911
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 4: Garontano's running the run and shoot and throwing this many

912
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: times a game, I can tell you which way I'll

913
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: be leaning to bed every single week. You know, DeLaura

914
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: did end up finishing Tony fourth in the nation and

915
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: passing success right.

916
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: So that is a positive.

917
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 4: But there's not a kid, a very talented kid, and

918
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 4: I love watching him, but I think something needs to

919
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: be addressed. You know, Max Borgy didn't really he didn't

920
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: play much last season injury, and before that, I think

921
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 4: he had sixteen touchdowns for the team two years ago.

922
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 4: Just a monster part of this offense with Mike Leach.

923
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: And the big talk was we're getting Max back. We're

924
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: getting Max back, And I thought to myself, well, how

925
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: does he integrate into the Nick Rolovic offense. They had

926
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 4: a rush rate of just forty one percent last season

927
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: And if you kind of look at past Nick Rolovich's offenses,

928
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: by the way, forty one percent extremely low for a

929
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: rush right. If you look at pass Nick Rolovich offenses,

930
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 4: that's about par for the course.

931
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: So you can't expect maxboords you to be getting a

932
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: whole bunch of you know, rushing attempts.

933
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 4: So then you look at the passing game. And that's

934
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 4: where I went and did a little bit of a

935
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 4: deep dive research. At Hawaii in twenty nineteen, the leading

936
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: halfback receiver caught just six passes six passes Dayton for Ruda,

937
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 4: who had ten the year before.

938
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen. We're talking over a two year span.

939
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: The lead running.

940
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 4: Back half back to catch passes got sixteen catches and

941
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 4: a two year span in two successful years under Nick Rolovich,

942
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: when Rolovich got to the island, he was not winning

943
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 4: games at all. He was covering games, but he was

944
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: not winning games. It'sok a long time for Hawaii got

945
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: where they were where we were betting on Cole McDonald

946
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: every single week. So you know, I don't know what

947
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: they're going to do with what is potentially their most

948
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 4: explosive player on offense when the system is not designed

949
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: to give him his share.

950
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: So that worries me about this team.

951
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: The schedule you mentioned it, I mean, listen, I think

952
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 4: there's four wins on this Portland State, Utah State under

953
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: a new transition of a new head coach coming in

954
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 4: from Arkansas State. The Arkansas State system is now Utah State.

955
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 4: We'll see how quickly you know, Anderson can get that going.

956
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 4: But Arizona Stanford, those should be wins within conference. Those

957
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: two teams don't have the offense to hang with Washington State.

958
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 4: That's why you know they should be considered wins. But

959
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: once you get to four, where are you going to

960
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: find the other three? You know, to get up over

961
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 4: this win total of the coin flip games against Oregon

962
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: State and BYU, I mean there's massive holes on the

963
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball for both of those teams,

964
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: So Washington State could potentially win those and get to

965
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: six wins.

966
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: But name the seventh. I think that's their ceiling. I

967
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: think that's their Yeah, name thee I would pay most of.

968
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: The time minus one fifty six and a half versus

969
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: minus one twenty six anyway, but especially here, I just

970
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 3: I can't find the seventh. One. I can see everything

971
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 3: goes right. Dolores in there, he's balling out. They can

972
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: get the six wins, get the ball elge one. I

973
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: think it would be a successful season enrolled, which is

974
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: second year, but I can't. I can't get the seven now.

975
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 4: And I think that this is the one instance where

976
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: you would pay juice on a six and a half

977
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: or I'm just gonna be patient. I mean, the Stanford

978
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: number keeps going up. I don't get it. I'm gonna

979
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: wait until a week before the season starts and hit

980
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: the under. You know, there's some juice coming in on

981
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: Washington State on the over. I don't get it. I'll

982
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: wait because I don't see how you win a seventh

983
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: game on this schedule.

984
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: And there's just so there's so many questions.

985
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 4: The roll of it is, style he doesn't want to

986
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: veer from it, so we'll see what they do with

987
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 4: their best, you know, explosive player. So definitely I support

988
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 4: that on the under all the way.

989
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to good stuff with the North.

990
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: Let's move on to the PAC twelve South and the

991
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 3: PAC twell South. Really interesting. I think it's the most

992
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 3: interesting Power five division this year.

993
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: It's a three team race up top.

994
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 3: To most people and to odds makers, right, yeah, USC,

995
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: Utah and Arizona State. Guy, they're gonna be if I

996
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: look at the odds right now, USC is gonna be

997
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: somewhere around plus one sixty plus one seventy. Arizona State's

998
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: around like plus two thirty two fifty differents at books,

999
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: and then Utah's right there as well. And then there's

1000
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 3: an interesting sleeper anywhere from six to one to seven

1001
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: to one in UCLA who will get to And then

1002
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: I think there's two teams that have no shot of

1003
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: winning it in Colorado and Arizona. I'm gonna go to

1004
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: you for Arizona. And then we'll spend the majority of

1005
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: my time on the fourteenth at the top.

1006
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: The Arizona Wildcats.

1007
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: Arizona, I'll tell you.

1008
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: The win total is over two and a half minus

1009
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: one twenty five. And this is a team that is

1010
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 3: just in bad shape.

1011
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: They overhaul everything.

1012
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: They bring in Jet Fish, they bring in Don Brown

1013
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: or the Blitz doctor.

1014
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: Solve your problems with aggression.

1015
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: Okay, sit there and go, oh, we're gonna read this pool.

1016
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna run up the fuck that.

1017
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: Let's go sure, we're gonna try to be very aggressive

1018
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: on defense, major questions all over this roster.

1019
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: I'll throw it to you and you can tell us if.

1020
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: There's any value on Arizona in the futures market.

1021
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, aggressive with who on this roster? I mean, this

1022
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: roster is something to behold. So the good news, there's

1023
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 4: some good news, and there's a ton of non positive news.

1024
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 4: Jedfish takes over as the head coaching gig after the

1025
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 4: Someone and Rain finally comes to an end.

1026
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: Fish has pivoted between NFL. That's the good news right there.

1027
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: That's it news, right.

1028
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 4: I mean, Fish at least had a stint as UCLA's

1029
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator and he turned into an interim coach for

1030
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 4: two games. He beat cal As the UCLA interim didn't

1031
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: cover the game, and then you know, he lost in

1032
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: the Cactus Bowl against Kansas State. And why do I

1033
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 4: remember that game so well from twenty seventeen because I

1034
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: had a ton of money on Jetfish and Devin Monster.

1035
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: And if you remember that game, Jetfish against Kansas State

1036
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 4: and Bill Snyder went into halftime seventeen to seven, and

1037
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 4: Devin Monster had thrown two bombs, a fifty yarder, a

1038
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 4: seventy yarder, and it was like Casey Thompson the Alamo

1039
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: Bowl last year, like all of a sudden, you thought

1040
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 4: Devin Moster maybe could win the Heisman next year. And

1041
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: UCLA was back and Jedfish look what he's done to

1042
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 4: Bill Snyder. Yeah, well, they didn't score another point in

1043
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 4: the second half, and Snyder put up twenty eight straight

1044
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: and that was the end of Jedfish of hearing from

1045
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: him before he went to the NFL. So I think

1046
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 4: something to keep an eye on is Arizona first halfs

1047
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 4: versus second halfs because Jedfish went to school when it

1048
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: came to halftime adjustments and he got just dominated by Snyder.

1049
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 4: So I think it'll be interesting to see if the

1050
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 4: game plan, if the script in Arizona in the first

1051
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 4: half of the game is different from what the results

1052
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: are in the second half, so I'm keeping that in

1053
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: my back pocket. There's a decent amount of returning on

1054
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: both sides of the ball. But these numbers, right, one.

1055
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: Hundred and twenty second defensive havoc, one hundred and twentieth

1056
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: an offensive finishing drives? Like what am I supposed to

1057
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: do with that?

1058
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: When you did nothing in the transfer portal and your

1059
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 4: roster is predominantly extremely young, undersized, and this is a

1060
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 4: conference built on speed, and there's not a whole ton

1061
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: of that either. So you know, Jordan McCloud comes in

1062
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 4: from South flor This is where I started, like, you know,

1063
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: my head started spending because I lost so much money

1064
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 4: on turnovers from Jordan McLoud in South Florida.

1065
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: I couldn't keep track. So he comes in from South Florida.

1066
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 4: The stats from the Bulls were beefed up by four

1067
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 4: tds and his final game against Central Florida, so you

1068
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: would look at his TD to interception ratio and you'd say, oh,

1069
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: Jordan McLoud is a great pickup. But if you go

1070
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: a little bit deeper, five big time throws on the season,

1071
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 4: twelve turnover worthy plays. His average depth of target was

1072
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 4: nine yards. This is not a good quarterback and Arizona's

1073
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 4: going to find that out pretty quick. It's the dink

1074
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: and dunk with no teeth behind it whatsoever. There are

1075
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 4: some rushing yards from McLoud, but you have to know

1076
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 4: when you look at those rushing yards you see the

1077
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: guy that the triple digits, you have to realize that

1078
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 4: it was thirty design yards and it was one hundred

1079
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: and sixty three from scrambling. So McLoud created just eight

1080
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 4: misstackles when he did leave the pocket, and more importantly,

1081
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: he averaged two point six yards per carry. Jordan McLoud

1082
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: is not the answer here at quarterback. You know, the

1083
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 4: last Sagarin rating makes Arizona about a twenty point favorite

1084
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 4: over Northern Arizona, so you know, should win that game.

1085
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: We'll see if they do. But once you get past that,

1086
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 4: if this team gets over three wins, it's gonna have

1087
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 4: to be wins over BYU, who returns the lowest amount

1088
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 4: of experience in the country compared to anybody, and then

1089
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 4: San Diego State.

1090
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: Now the Astexs are not BYU.

1091
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 3: Games to open the year in Las Vegas, Yeah, I know,

1092
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: by loses a lot and Arizona's restarting everything.

1093
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's important because if Arizona's gonna

1094
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 4: go over this win til, you're.

1095
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: Gonna hear other people do College Trouble podcasts that we're

1096
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: going to take the under the over because it's going

1097
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 2: to be decided real early on Arizona.

1098
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: If they don't get these first three games, it is

1099
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 4: truly over before they get to conference play. BYU completely reloading,

1100
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 4: but I my opinion there's a coaching mismatch going on here.

1101
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: And if you look at the other game San Diego State,

1102
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 4: I mean, the Aztecs are offensively challenged and stuff.

1103
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: He's probably tired of me taking overs on them.

1104
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 4: They do lose their top three tacklers, but Brady hok

1105
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: On that team gets just a ton of havoc back.

1106
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: They can take the ball away in so many different ways.

1107
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: So I'm not really up on this Arizona wind total.

1108
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: I don't know how they get to three. I think

1109
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: they're gonna drop some of these first three games. They

1110
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 4: can't win any of their conference games. They are currently

1111
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: lined as eleven point underdogs to BYU, and in the

1112
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 4: first game of the season, if that's the line against BYU,

1113
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: a game that is one of your only hopes to

1114
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 4: get over two and a half. They're gonna be tough

1115
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: sledting here to get into three.

1116
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 3: I would love to find an under three juice. They're

1117
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 3: not winning four games and they have I mean, they

1118
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: arguably a top the six or seventh hardest schedule in

1119
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: the country. I mean, it's a brutal schedule. So sorry,

1120
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: that's enough Arizona talk. Let's move on. Let's go to

1121
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: the top of the South. We'll get to this potential sleeper, UCLA.

1122
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: I have to recover the first three. I'm gonna make

1123
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: a case for Arizona State. I'll let you make a

1124
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: case for you. Let's start with.

1125
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: USC, the USC Trojans.

1126
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: All three of these teams have a win total eight

1127
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: and a half, still varied, but they're all eight and

1128
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: a half. And USC goes to Arizona State but hosts Utah.

1129
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 3: Utah goes to USC but host Arizona State. So these

1130
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: are gonna be the most important games of the season.

1131
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 3: I believe Utah that at least has a bye before

1132
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: that USC game.

1133
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: Before you tip your hand, do you feel like this

1134
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: is like a buffet the South? Like I wake up

1135
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 4: some days and I love this part of the of

1136
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 4: the South. I like this team from the South. Like

1137
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 4: I feel like I wake up and every other day there's.

1138
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: A new team that I like.

1139
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: I mean, there's four teams here that we're going to

1140
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 4: talk about, and some days I tilt one way, some

1141
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: days I tilt the other. I like a lot of

1142
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 4: teams in this except for the first one we're going

1143
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 4: to talk about, which is how can you get behind

1144
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 4: play Helton?

1145
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, Clay Helton year eight h The argument for USC,

1146
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 3: I mean last year they got they came back, they

1147
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: had a bunch of fortunate wins late. The argument for

1148
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: USC improvement is, you know Slovas wasn't really healthy and

1149
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 3: he found ways to win games late, but just didn't

1150
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 3: look right. So if he's healthy, now, we know USC

1151
00:51:59,400 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: is going to.

1152
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: Have weapons for days. They always do.

1153
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 3: They lost Saint Brown, but you know, you got London

1154
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: and McCoy back, you had Nixon from Colorado.

1155
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna have weapons.

1156
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: So if Slovas is healthy, does you know the air

1157
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: raid underground Harold take off even more this year. But

1158
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: the offensive line, there's a lot of questions with the

1159
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 3: offensive line that I'm worried about, and they lost Barah Tucker,

1160
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: their best offensive line and their left tackle who went

1161
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: to the NFL. And then on the defensive side of

1162
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: the ball, you would say, all right, zero two of

1163
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 3: Todd Orlando. So are we going to see improvement there?

1164
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: It's an aggressive it's you know, it's gonna be Tyer Orlando.

1165
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: It's gonna ben aggressive defense. Can they repeat the turnover

1166
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: success they've had? They do need to replace back to

1167
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: All defensive Player the year Hufonga their safety and you

1168
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: know they have some players. Corey Forman a defensive end,

1169
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: freshman freak, Drake Jackson's a player. You know, they lost

1170
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 3: their their best corner. I think Griffin is now I

1171
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: think signed with the Bills unrestricted raiders. So they lost

1172
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: some town on the defense. But there's talent there. What

1173
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: can Orlando do? Can they repeat the turn of success?

1174
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. So you do avoid They do avoid

1175
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: Oregon and Washington out of the North. That's a good thing.

1176
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 3: But I'm just I just can't get behind this offensive line.

1177
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: Helton.

1178
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: You know, they have a good special teams quarter that

1179
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: they got from Kandastate, but too many special teams mistakes.

1180
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: Just not a well coached team. Penalties or a nightmare.

1181
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: Clay Helton has done it again, and they.

1182
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 2: Just couldn't run the ball last year. That's a big problem.

1183
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: Tode three point two yards per carry got they were

1184
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 3: very lucky. I'm just I'm not sold on the talents

1185
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: there on offense if the offensive line can get it together,

1186
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 3: which I'm not sold on. But this is a team

1187
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: that when you said, yeah, you wake up and you say, well,

1188
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 3: I can see this team, Oh you, Ucla is intriguing.

1189
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 3: It's the plus seven to fifty. I haven't had that

1190
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: feeling once with USC. I think the win total is

1191
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: about right. I mean, I'm at like eight point three,

1192
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 3: so no play for me.

1193
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: But what are you? What are your thoughts on the Trojans.

1194
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 4: What happened in the Paxhold Championship game last season is

1195
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 4: exactly what I think is going to happen this season.

1196
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 4: It's a microcosm of how to attack USC. Now, like

1197
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: we said, USC doesn't run the ball very much for

1198
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: USh rate air raid offense. Graham Harrold wants to get

1199
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 4: Kaddan Slovas's arm going. And what did we just say

1200
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: about Oregon? How do you beat them? You keep running

1201
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: the ball and you stay out of passing down so

1202
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 4: that caved on Thibodeau isn't all over your quarterback.

1203
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 2: So what does USC come out and do.

1204
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: They beat Oregon by one hundred and fifteen total yards,

1205
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: but they lose the game in the Pactoral Championship because

1206
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 4: they decided to throw and Oregon just rushes three and

1207
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 4: drops eight. Everybody is rushing three and dropping eight. Arkansas

1208
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 4: is doing it against Old Miss, Arkansas is doing it

1209
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 4: against Alabama. I mean, offensive coordinators are that run the

1210
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: air raid or some version of the spread in space

1211
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 4: with four or five wide receivers are going to have

1212
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 4: to figure out how to play these defenses they rush

1213
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 4: three and drop eight. And if Graham Harold doesn't figure

1214
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 4: it out and he just thinks that Kaddan Slovas is

1215
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 4: going to be fine the rest of the season, then Thibodeau,

1216
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 4: players like Thibodeau in the edge are going to.

1217
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 2: Come for you and you're not gonna win that much.

1218
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: So I think what happened in the Pactical Championship game

1219
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: is what every team in.

1220
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 4: The Pactword of South is going to do. If you

1221
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 4: look at what they have on offense, they have to

1222
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 4: replace you know some of the production that they have,

1223
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 4: but brew McCoy as of you know, like within the

1224
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 4: last week, he's not going to be on the team.

1225
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: It doesn't look like he's going to be on the

1226
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: team after a domestic violence incident. Maybe he has been separated, yeah,

1227
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 4: from the team. Well, Harrold looked to establish the run

1228
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 4: at a higher rate, you know, considering that probably not

1229
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 4: a defense return sixty nine percent. You mentioned some of

1230
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: their players, Todtle Orlando. They finished twenty eighth in defensive havoc.

1231
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 4: You know, that's where it's good that you have Tottle

1232
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 4: Orlando to do that, but now you have to replace

1233
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 4: some of that production and you can't give up explosive plays,

1234
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 4: which got him into a lot of trouble when he

1235
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 4: was there at Texas and playing defensive coordinator there for

1236
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 4: Tom Herman. You know, my USC projection is lower than

1237
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: most considering you know, what they have done on the field,

1238
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 4: success rate, Clay Helton himself, special teams, game clock management,

1239
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: everything you can throw in there does not make you

1240
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 4: want to back USC. You know, there's a downgrade and

1241
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 4: second order win total. They got a little bit lucky

1242
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: in some of their games. Their returning experience is around

1243
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 4: national average is like seventy six percent this year in

1244
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: the age of the super senior. I mean, it's not

1245
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 4: great what they brought back, like.

1246
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: UCLA and Utah.

1247
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 4: It's just loaded with super seniors, Arizona State and the

1248
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: defense too. The first five games of the season are

1249
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 4: Pennsylvan to be win, San Jose State, Stanford, Washington State,

1250
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 4: Oregon State, Colorado. What you hear about Cadan Slovas and

1251
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 4: Graham Harrold's that they have to get the air raid

1252
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 4: in sync. They don't like to take bye weeks. They

1253
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 4: like it all to stay in rhythm. So the schedule

1254
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 4: sets up pretty well for the first five and you're

1255
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 4: gonna need that before you go into dates with Utah.

1256
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: And Notre Dame.

1257
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 4: And the biggest question for me is, you know, if

1258
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 4: they can get around what defenses are doing to them.

1259
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 4: You know, Notre Dame, Arizona State, Colorado has one of

1260
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 4: the best set of linebackers in this conference. So who

1261
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 4: are you going to pass against on this schedule? After that,

1262
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 4: the win totals and no play the futures are priced out.

1263
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 4: In my opinion, there's more value in the three other

1264
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 4: teams that we're about to talk about than this USC team.

1265
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 4: And frankly, if Harold, they've wanted Harold's head on a

1266
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: play for a while, and if he doesn't change the

1267
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: offense to run a little bit more.

1268
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they have no rushing success rate whatsoever.

1269
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 4: It could just it could be something that catches on

1270
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 4: fire and spreads to Clay Helton in his hot seat again,

1271
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 4: so we'll see.

1272
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really all starts up front, like they're just

1273
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: not getting any push. And they added Ingram from Texas.

1274
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: They have some talent. You guess he's always gonna have talented

1275
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: skill position players. But all right, let's move on. I'm

1276
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 3: gonna make a case for Arizona.

1277
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: State, the Arizona State sun Devils.

1278
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: What I played. I played Arizona State. I found one

1279
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one.

1280
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: I took a shot on out in Circa just for

1281
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: a couple hundred bucks for shits, but I played them

1282
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: plus five hundred to win the Pac twelve. The reason

1283
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: I went instead of the division. Now, I think that

1284
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna talk to me about Utah Division, which I don't hate,

1285
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: but I'm lower on Oregon and Washington, So like I

1286
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: think that there's more value on playing them to win

1287
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: the conference overall, because I'm lower on Oregon Washington the market.

1288
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 3: But if you could find a a plus five on them,

1289
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: I think it's worth a shot. Now, there's a lot

1290
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 3: of uncertainty with their the investigation. You know, they had

1291
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: one of their i think their tight end coach who

1292
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 3: was put on administrative lead by the president. We don't

1293
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen. I think everything's gonna happen at

1294
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: the end of this year and.

1295
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be blown up. But we don't know.

1296
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a Bowl ban, maybe they can't go to

1297
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: the postseason, but they maybe they can still win the

1298
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: Pac twelve. Maybe that's a rallying point for them.

1299
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 4: If you play to win the game, you don't play

1300
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: to just play it.

1301
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: But just looking at this team, that's all hard to project.

1302
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 3: Looking at this team on the defense is loaded, I mean,

1303
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 3: and it's deep. There are two deepense talented. This is

1304
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 3: arguably a top twenty defense, maybe a top ten secondary.

1305
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: And there's talent, extreme talent at every level. You got

1306
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: low lay in the defensive line, Robertson and linebacker, and

1307
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: then for my money, it's the best corner duo in

1308
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: the Pac twelve.

1309
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: With Lucas and Jones. So I love the defense.

1310
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: What it's weird to say with Arizona State, like you

1311
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: start with the defense and then you go to the offense.

1312
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: The running game is gonna be there, you know, with

1313
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 3: Tranum and White and their offensive line returns a lot.

1314
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: It all comes down to Jayden Daniels and who has

1315
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: a ton of town. This is his third year.

1316
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: Is he going to take that next step?

1317
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 3: You know, his beautiful deep ball, He can make all

1318
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: the throws, but it's consistency and accuracy.

1319
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: Consistent accuracy. Is he gonna take that next step?

1320
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: And then there are questions about who's gonna step up

1321
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: as you know the number one.

1322
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: Receiver for Arizona State.

1323
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 3: So the passing game is if if they can figure

1324
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 3: that out this year, the sky is the limit for

1325
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: this team because if the passing game is clicking, and Daniels,

1326
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: you know, he can do a lot with his likes too,

1327
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: but if he's accurate, teams have to respect the passing game.

1328
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 3: They can't load the box. They tried to stop this

1329
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 3: very dynamic Arizona State rushing attack and then this offense

1330
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 3: is gonna move the ball, and we know their defense

1331
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: is gonna be excellent. People don't talk enough about this

1332
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: Arizona State defense. It's gonna be great this year. So

1333
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: I'm really buying in the upside of Jadeen Daniels and

1334
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 3: him realizing it and this Arizona State defense. I think

1335
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 3: that they have the easiest Pac twelve schedule any team.

1336
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 3: I know they have to go to Utah and Washington,

1337
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: but overall, if you look at their schedule, you know

1338
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: they host USC, They're gonna have to go to Utah.

1339
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 3: So who knows what's going to happen with that Utah

1340
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: USC Arizona State triangle. If someone steals one of the

1341
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 3: road that's probably gonna be the difference. But I'm buying

1342
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 3: the upside on this team twenty five years ago, by

1343
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: the way Rose Bull, maybe twenty five years later.

1344
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: They're so magic.

1345
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 3: Last year, they lost two games that they should have won,

1346
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 3: just two late collapses, and then they beat They just

1347
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 3: rolled their last two games.

1348
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: Bad teams.

1349
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 3: I think they put up one hundred and fifty thousand

1350
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 3: points on Arizona, but.

1351
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: I just Daniels takes that next step.

1352
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: This team, to me, is the best team in the

1353
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: fact twelve, I can also see the case for Utah.

1354
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: I'll let you respond and then go into the utes.

1355
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 4: Well, you know, when I was picking out the helmets

1356
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 4: I wanted to have behind me for all of our

1357
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 4: video and our podcast this year, Arizona State was number

1358
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 4: one on the list, and by god, I went and

1359
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 4: got the fork helmet and I proudly put it up

1360
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 4: there because Arizona State was a team that I wanted

1361
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 4: to and then things have changed.

1362
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: I think, well, we should.

1363
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 4: Start with probably the off field stuff before we get

1364
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 4: to the on field stuff. And it's not that I'm

1365
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 4: you know, down on Arizona State. I still love him

1366
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 4: as much as I did when the season concluded last year.

1367
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 4: And I love Jayden Daniels, who is now using his

1368
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 4: name image likeness to represent Vanisia Pizza in Tempi, Arizona

1369
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 4: now at Venicia.

1370
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 3: On the location Vanezia's Pizza with the owner Dominic, so

1371
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 3: I know it's not Venizia's, it's Vanetsia's Vanezia.

1372
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: That's the most important thing to take away from today.

1373
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 4: Now, if Venicia is a pizza place, Venisia is if

1374
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: you don't know what that is, that is the pizza

1375
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 4: place that's represented him breaking bad by Walter White. When

1376
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 4: Walter White, you know, it's trying to get back with

1377
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: Skyler and she turns him down. He had dipping sticks

1378
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 4: and he went in the driveway and threw that pizza

1379
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 4: up on the roof. And if you do a little digging,

1380
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 4: it's quite funny to hundreds of people that showed up

1381
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 4: to that house and started throwing the pizza up on

1382
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 4: the roof.

1383
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: It's been a real, actually real problem.

1384
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 4: Hey pizza, it's even better the next day, got tipping sticks.

1385
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 4: But so yeah, Venicia's is is sponsoring Jadon Daniels.

1386
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: And let me say that, start to keep going. If

1387
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're not gonna go. If I was in

1388
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 3: a state and you're fading my pick here, I would

1389
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: say number one, shred lightly, Number two say my name,

1390
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 3: and how about number three?

1391
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 4: You clearly don't know who you're talking to, So let

1392
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 4: me clue you in.

1393
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: I am not in danger. I am the danger. Jadon

1394
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: Daniels is the danger.

1395
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: This Arizona State defense is the danger.

1396
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 2: I hope our producer eclips him in there. But oh, absolutely,

1397
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 2: my name.

1398
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 4: We're not cutting Venisia's pizzas because they passed the savings

1399
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 4: down to you by not cutting the pizza.

1400
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: You're goddamn right.

1401
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 4: I think you and I should have to say my name, Bett,

1402
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 4: I am going to take another team to win the South.

1403
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 4: Whoever which one of us is right at the end

1404
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 4: of this season, one of us gets to say say

1405
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: my name and the other one has to say it.

1406
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: So that's for all the recording glory here.

1407
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 4: But there's other news off the field that is just

1408
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 4: it's troubling and to give a real high level of it,

1409
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 4: the NCAA might rip this program apart at any moment.

1410
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 4: Recruiting violations that were just I mean, this isn't Rick

1411
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 4: majeris buying a kid a pizza. This is coaches and

1412
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniel's mother charge it having credit card charges. They're

1413
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 4: trying to get expense for flying recruits in having workouts

1414
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 4: off campus, taping those workouts, evaluating those workouts, having thirty

1415
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 4: players in a suite when you're not supposed to in

1416
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 4: a dead period of recruiting, and at ten PM giving

1417
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 4: campus tours and running kids up to herm Edwards's office.

1418
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: Hello, you play to win the gate? This is bad.

1419
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: This is extremely bad.

1420
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 4: The Daniels' mom has claimed that her Google account was compromised.

1421
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: She never bought the tickets. So the investigation is out there.

1422
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 4: We don't know if any sort of you know, if

1423
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 4: the violation, if there's gonna be any sort of penalty

1424
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 4: happening now as we record or after the season. There's

1425
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 4: going to be a fall guy for all this. We

1426
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 4: don't know if it's gonna be herm or if it's

1427
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 4: going to be pierced, or or what's going to happen.

1428
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 4: And then there's rumors starting to leak out of the

1429
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 4: program in the last two weeks that Jade Daniels, you know,

1430
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 4: might not be the quarterback for the team. There's a

1431
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 4: couple of coaches not happy with Jaden and Daniels, And

1432
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 4: I'm thinking to myself, does this have more relation to

1433
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 4: do with his expense reports from his mom or does

1434
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 4: this have to do with the fact that, you know,

1435
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 4: the violations are.

1436
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 2: Coming down and they need a scapegoat.

1437
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 4: So there's things happening outside the team that make this

1438
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 4: a complete stayaway for me. Now everything you said is true,

1439
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 4: we get we get back to the field. There's a

1440
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 4: ton to love about this team. Eighty two returns on offense,

1441
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 4: ninety four percent on defense. That secondary is full of seniors.

1442
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 4: I think it's the oldest secondary in all of college football.

1443
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 4: Arizona State brought in Zach Hill as the offensive coordinator.

1444
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: Love second year he was He's always been great Boise

1445
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 3: East watch whenever he's been.

1446
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 4: Oh second year, yeah, you you flip the scoreboard up

1447
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 4: in Eastern Washington's got seventy points on somebody that was

1448
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: a Zach Hill offense. And now he's at Arizona State.

1449
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 4: So there's I mean, like I said, there's a ton

1450
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 4: of love. There's a reason I was putting helmets of

1451
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 4: Arizona State behind me. The defenses is equally as good

1452
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 4: as the offense, between their age and their experience. They

1453
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 4: were thirty seventh in Havoc. They were twenty sixth in

1454
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 4: coverage ranking per PFF, and they were an outstanding eighteenth

1455
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 4: in defensive passing success rate. That is extremely important when

1456
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 4: it comes to playing in the Pac twelve. So there's

1457
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 4: not really a problem here. A young receiving corps but

1458
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 4: extremely talented. Maybe I don't know. If you look at

1459
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels, what is he twenty two and three touchdown

1460
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 4: to interception ratio. He's fantastic and if you look at

1461
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 4: what he's been able to do with his legs, with

1462
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 4: his arm, I mean he is a true talent. I'm

1463
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 4: just the problem that I've had buying Arizona State is

1464
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 4: not really the off field stuff. It's the fact that

1465
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 4: when DraftKings first came out with odds, I think they

1466
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 4: were first to market to win the division, it was

1467
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 4: around plus two hundred, and they priced themselves out and

1468
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 4: there were some other options inside the South.

1469
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: They weren't plus two hundred, they were much higher.

1470
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 4: They really did a great job of getting an eight

1471
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 4: and a half and nine out of the market on

1472
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: the wind total perspective. But I think Arizona State has

1473
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: been priced correctly when it comes to South futures and

1474
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 4: when it comes to pack twelve futures, and that kind

1475
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 4: of had me looking elsewhere to make a buye And

1476
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 4: with this off field news, I'm certainly not looking delay

1477
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 4: anything in Arizona State.

1478
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: Save my name.

1479
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 3: The one thing I will say is like I I

1480
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 3: didn't want to go Arizona State win total.

1481
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go Arizona State Division.

1482
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 3: I went, you know, five to one conference, because if

1483
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: I'm going to invest in the uncertainty, I want the

1484
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 3: upside and then a bigger payout because you know, if

1485
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 3: there's if Daniels is out, if something happens, I'm not

1486
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 3: trying to invest money for an entire year for you know,

1487
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 3: minus one ten over eight and a half. So I

1488
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 3: went with the high look at make the case, make

1489
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 3: the case for the utes.

1490
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: The Utah youts.

1491
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 2: Did you say ute? Yeahte Oh, I love you. I

1492
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 2: think I've had a little bit of written content.

1493
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 4: We've already talked about it on our first podcast, But

1494
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 4: you know, I love everything that's going on with Utah.

1495
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 4: Charlie Brewer's performance in the spring game, ninety three percent

1496
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 4: of the defense returns. It's also you know, very experienced,

1497
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 4: thirtyth in success right top twenty and finishing drives and havoc.

1498
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: Everything that you would expect from a Utah defense is there.

1499
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 2: Charlie Brewer really.

1500
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 4: Is the icing on the cake. When he came in,

1501
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 4: he just knew the playbook. He executed it perfectly in

1502
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 4: the spring game. A shoulder injury to Cameron Rising last year,

1503
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be the backup to Brewer.

1504
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 4: But he does have experience in case God forbid Charlie

1505
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 4: Brewer has a cushion or anything like that. Brewer is

1506
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 4: also joined in the transfer portal with TJ. Pledger from Oklahoma.

1507
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 4: Chris Curry is going to battle for snaps at the

1508
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 4: running position with him. The youths have one of the

1509
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 4: kindest schedules in all of the PAC twelve outside of

1510
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 4: Weber State and San Diego State, and a depleted BYU,

1511
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 4: Utah is going to play what we think.

1512
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: Is, you know, the seller of the PAC twelve North.

1513
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 4: So you know, there's a lot of positives here in

1514
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 4: this team that we felt and they get.

1515
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 3: They get a bye before USC and they host Arizona State,

1516
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: so that's key.

1517
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I mean listen, USC is talented, but

1518
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 4: they crumble in the red zone. They rank seventy fourth

1519
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 4: in defensive finishing drives and Utah returns everybody in the secondary.

1520
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 4: So I think that's going to be one of the

1521
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 4: big wins in this division. And to me, I'm I'm

1522
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 4: more worried. Utah's defense is so good. I'm more worried

1523
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 4: about their heads up game against UCLA, But that game

1524
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 4: is being played at Utah Utah has so many scheduling

1525
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 4: advantages here to win this division. And really that's what

1526
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 4: it comes down to, because both Arizona State and UCLA

1527
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 4: and Utah return a heavy amount of experience. They've retained

1528
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 4: a lot of their high star recruiting blue chips or

1529
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 4: four stars, three stars that they've got. They're all, in

1530
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,520
Speaker 4: my opinion, very well coached. Whether that's Herm Edwards inspiration

1531
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 4: or Winningham's just game plan management or Chip Kelly and

1532
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 4: his tempo. These are three teams that just have it

1533
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 4: from every angle. But Utah has a scheduling by far.

1534
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1535
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 3: The one thing that worries me with Utah with USC

1536
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: is that they don't play the way that you have

1537
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 3: to play the air raid, right, they play like a

1538
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 3: lot of heavy man, and we've seen that they have.

1539
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 3: They always struggle with Washington State in the air raid.

1540
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 3: They've struggled with USC in the area. We saw it

1541
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 3: like two years ago. So are they going to switch

1542
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 3: it up? It's like we had, there's the blueprints out

1543
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 3: there for out of defended Utah, but Utah has their

1544
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 3: identity on defense, so they don't really match up well defensively.

1545
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,799
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, you have to love the defense.

1546
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 3: This is arguably a top fifteen defense with you know,

1547
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd is just a stud at linebacker, sewell at

1548
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 3: linebacker as well. Their linebackers are so strong. Clark Phillips

1549
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 3: is a stud at cornerback. So and this is I

1550
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 3: think the best defensive line and the best offensive line

1551
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 3: in the conference. So they're going to dominate in the trenches.

1552
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 3: They have an identity. It's tough, it's defensive minded. They

1553
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,879
Speaker 3: also had a Theo Howard. The wide receiver group's probably

1554
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 3: the biggest question on the team due to some transfers,

1555
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 3: but Brewer is just a winner. I don't hate anything

1556
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 3: that you're you're saying. The special teams are gonna be

1557
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 3: great too, don't forget about that. These are teams year

1558
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 3: and a year out are always a top twenty unit,

1559
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 3: I you know, and they do. They have two tough, yeah,

1560
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 3: semi tough road non conference games against dian Diego State

1561
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 3: or BYU one be shot if they win both. I

1562
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 3: think they split them at worst. But I think this

1563
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 3: is like best offensive line of the conference, best defensive line,

1564
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 3: top twenty defense, top twenty offensive line in the country.

1565
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 2: Brewer is just a winner. They might be favored in

1566
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 2: eleven games.

1567
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, eleven out of twelve games, So I bought over

1568
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: eight and a half.

1569
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: So I'm with you on the Utah lot, and it's

1570
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 2: kind of a hedge to Arizona State in future.

1571
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: You know, it'd be tough to lose, not Arizona State

1572
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 3: not getting to the conference title.

1573
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 2: We need a dominant year by USC.

1574
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 3: But I like over eight and a half, So I

1575
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 3: don't hate the love that you're showing for the Utes.

1576
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: You're right.

1577
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,879
Speaker 4: If you're gonna be stubborn and continue to run defense

1578
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 4: with a nickel and not you know, Rushturing drop eight

1579
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 4: against USC, you're gonna get burned again. So well, we'll

1580
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 4: see if they make the change there. They're very prey,

1581
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 4: you know, they're very prideful about the kind of defense

1582
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 4: they run at rice Ecles and rice Ecles has been

1583
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 4: expanded by the way, so hopefully we can get as many.

1584
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: Vaccinated people in there screaming as loud as possible. Yeah,

1585
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: all right, there's one team left in the pact total self,

1586
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 2: which is I think is a really interesting.

1587
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: Sleeper that UCLA Bruins.

1588
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: The win total is seven over seven minus one fifteen

1589
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 3: to win the division. You could find plus seven fifty

1590
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 3: out there, plus six hundred. I think a plus seven fifty.

1591
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: It's it's worth a look. This is you know, dtr

1592
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 3: is back. Although there's some rumors that I wasn't practicing

1593
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 3: in the past few days.

1594
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not sure.

1595
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 3: I have to look more into that. But this is

1596
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 3: a team. It's year four Chip Kelly now, right, and

1597
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 3: it hasn't gone well. But last year this was a

1598
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 3: team that was They lost four shootouts by fifteen combined points.

1599
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: They were zero to four in games decided by five points.

1600
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 3: The last they were right there. So this is out

1601
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 3: Chip Kelly's team. He kind of I think he finally

1602
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: has the depth. He has his quarterback. The offensive line,

1603
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,440
Speaker 3: which has been a disaster I think now is serviceable.

1604
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 3: And this is the team that just disguise the limit. Now.

1605
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: The problem is the schedule is brutal. Brutal.

1606
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 3: I mean they host Oregon, Arizona State, LSU, and Fresno

1607
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 3: State like four good teams. They go to Utah, USC Stanford,

1608
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 3: and Washington a relentless schedule. But the upside of this

1609
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 3: team is I think extreme. They bring basically everyone back

1610
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 3: on the entire team, except their running back Felton, but

1611
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 3: they had the Michigan running back transfer and then they

1612
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 3: lost their best defensive lineman too the NFL, but they

1613
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 3: bring everyone back. Last year that at two point one

1614
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: net yards per play jump I was third in the nation.

1615
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: This team is just the problem last year was their defense,

1616
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 3: Like they could score and their defense was very aggressive,

1617
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 3: and they're four to two five. They led the Pac

1618
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 3: twelve in sacks, but they just got burnt consistently in

1619
01:12:59,439 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: the past game.

1620
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: You could throw all over them.

1621
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 3: They were one hundred and twenty seventh in pass yards

1622
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 3: per attempt. I just it was bad. But they their

1623
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 3: new defensive back coach. We talked this on our first

1624
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 3: episode of the season, Brian Norwood. He started playing more

1625
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 3: aggressive man to man on the outside, which makes sense

1626
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 3: if you're gonna blitz a lot and play aggressive upfront

1627
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 3: and their corners struggle with it a lot shortened season.

1628
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 3: But if their corners can take it, everyone's back and

1629
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 3: the secondary can take that next step and play much

1630
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: better on the outside. With their aggressive blitzing and that

1631
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 3: offense that could score that this team has a really

1632
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 3: high ceiling. It's a very interesting team to take a

1633
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 3: flyer on to win this division, because then you look

1634
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 3: and you say, okay, Arizona State, who knows what's going

1635
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 3: to happen with them, Daniels, there could be sanctions. Who

1636
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: knows USC. It's still Clay Elton the offensive line, you know, who.

1637
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 2: Knows what's gonna happen with you? At USC?

1638
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 3: They've disappointed in the past for sure. And then Utah

1639
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 3: does the offense with Brewer, I end up working out

1640
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden it's like, hey, here's UCLA.

1641
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 3: So the schedule is brutal, but they're an interesting team

1642
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 3: to maybe take a flyer on to win this division

1643
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: or are the pack? You know, if you want to

1644
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,759
Speaker 3: take on the win the pack? Well, because we agree

1645
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 3: that I think Oregon and Washington are more vulnerable than

1646
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 3: I think others think. What are your thoughts on UCLA?

1647
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 4: Ucla is the team at the PAC twelve South buffet

1648
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 4: that I can't stop looking at and I just want

1649
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 4: to eat it all until the vat's empty and they

1650
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 4: got to come reload it up, kind of like you know,

1651
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 4: when I'm at Chipoli waiting on them to cut my

1652
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 4: damn steak.

1653
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: I love UCLA this year. They are in.

1654
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 4: They are in the app, the Action Network app downloading

1655
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 4: and see stuck in ice plays. Of course, UCLA over

1656
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 4: seven minus one fifteen, one of my largest win total overs.

1657
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 4: Fan Duel just put up a plus seven to fifty

1658
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 4: on the division. I'm already holding a plus six fifty

1659
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 4: on UTAH. I might go and play the UCLA one

1660
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 4: as well. A number to me is just crazy. Things

1661
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 4: are scheduled a little bit tougher, and we got some

1662
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 4: questions going on here, especially on the defensive side of

1663
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 4: the ball, but there's no denying what they're able to

1664
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 4: do offensively. And now when you consider the talent that

1665
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 4: they were able to bring in at the end of

1666
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 4: the Mora era in twenty seventeen, in the beginning of

1667
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen and nineteen, with their recruiting, they've been able

1668
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 4: to retain most of those recruits. So they have a

1669
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 4: very high level on the field right now. In the product.

1670
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 4: Now we kind of have to discuss what's going on

1671
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball. Jerry Asinnaro is the

1672
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator. He's been with Chip Kelly since two thousand

1673
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 4: and nine. I believe it was at New Hampshire sum

1674
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 4: right after chip Kelly was, so they know each other

1675
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 4: extremely well. And it's just one of those kinds of

1676
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 4: coaches that Chip Kelly is not going to fire. He's

1677
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 4: just he's got a free pass. And you know, so

1678
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 4: you look at this team, what can they do about that? Well,

1679
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 4: they return over eighty five percent of tarp on the team.

1680
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 4: Super senior rule really applies to UCLA. Four losses came

1681
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 4: last year within one possession, So this team is hungry

1682
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 4: and that's all they talk about is when I see comments,

1683
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 4: we lost four games by one possession, so it's on

1684
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 4: their mind. The defense excelled and creating explosive plays, you know,

1685
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 4: sixth and rush defense in twenty ninth in pass defense

1686
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 4: per expected points, so they can stop the big play,

1687
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 4: keep everything in front of him.

1688
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 2: I think that was by design.

1689
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 4: But they have a really hard time increasing their success rate,

1690
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 4: which is, you know, barely going up, and then last

1691
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 4: year kind of fell out. They fell from eightieth to

1692
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,480
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty. First, you know, the real handicap

1693
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 4: for me with UCLA and why I love them so

1694
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 4: much is what they did with their quarterbacks coach. They

1695
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 4: went out and got Ryan Gunderson. The passing game coordinator

1696
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 4: for San Jose State. If you're not familiar with San

1697
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 4: Jose State, one day, everybody just woke up and it

1698
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 4: was one of the best passing attacks in whole college

1699
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 4: football with Nick Starkle. Color me surprised is a razorback

1700
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 4: alone that Nick Starkle came through Fayetteville and was exited

1701
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 4: out and his Biber shirt real quick after, you know,

1702
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 4: not getting any traction to Texas A and M. He

1703
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 4: shows up at San Jose State. Nick Starkle had six

1704
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 4: of his eight games last year he at least had

1705
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 4: a forty yard pass. I mean, he was explosive, play crazy,

1706
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 4: and this was just, you know, we didn't expect this

1707
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 4: of San Jose State. And a lot of it is

1708
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 4: because of Ryan Gunderson being the passing game coordinator what

1709
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 4: he did with Nick Starkle. And I'm not trying to

1710
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 4: do a comparison between Nick Starkle and dtr and say

1711
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 4: that they're the same player, but Nick Starkle from a

1712
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 4: perspective of big time throws versus turnover worthy plays, it's

1713
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 4: worth mentioning that that completely got flipped around. It was

1714
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 4: like a one to two ratio and then it turned

1715
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 4: around to be like a three to one ratio for

1716
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 4: Nick Starkle, and that's what we've got with Dorian Thompson Robinson.

1717
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 4: That's going to be Gunderson's entire job with almost one

1718
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 4: hundred more dropbacks. Starkle cut his turnover worthy plays at

1719
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 4: Arkansas from eleven to just seven at San Jose State,

1720
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 4: and that's crazy considering he had like one hundred and

1721
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 4: fifty more snaps. So there's no bigger stat with DTR

1722
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 4: than turnover worthy plays for his career.

1723
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 2: This is the Stat's crazy to me.

1724
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 4: Dorian Thompson Robinson in his career has had twenty one

1725
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 4: big time throws and forty four turnover worthy plays. He

1726
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 4: has really killed a lot of us in the betting

1727
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 4: market when we've decided to bet on UCLA and gun

1728
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 4: Anderson's job is to come in there and eliminate those mistakes.

1729
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 4: If not, we get to go to the backup. I

1730
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 4: believe in Gunderson. I believe in what he did at

1731
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 4: San Jose State, and I think he can get the

1732
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 4: same results here. There's, you know, playmakers on both sides

1733
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 4: of the ball. I don't want to sound too crazy here.

1734
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 4: This is a team that can win the South. There's

1735
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 4: a team that can easily exceed seven wins. This is

1736
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 4: a team that you know can put up sixty points

1737
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 4: on you in a flash. There's a lot of defenses

1738
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 4: that can't deal with what UCLA is going to do.

1739
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 4: I don't want to get too far ahead of myself,

1740
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 4: but I love this UCLA team, and I don't know

1741
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 4: what their ceiling is.

1742
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 2: Kip Kelly year four at Oregon twelve and one National

1743
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 2: championship lost by a field goal. Year four at UCLA. No,

1744
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 2: can they make the college role playoff? No stop?

1745
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 3: I think they're fifteen thousand to one or something. This

1746
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 3: schedule is brutal. They are Now they'd have to go undefeated,

1747
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: in which they're not doing. For eighty points a game,

1748
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 3: they were gonna lose at least one game, eighty five

1749
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: eighty All right, great stuff, I mean, just a fun

1750
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 3: confidence to go out there.

1751
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 2: But we're not done by Remember.

1752
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 3: To review, subscribe, Tell a friend, tone enemy. All right,

1753
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 3: let's go three and out.

1754
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: Let's make it a quick three and out.

1755
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: All right, first down, favorite win total. Alright, I'll start here.

1756
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 3: All right, I've already made a case for Utah over

1757
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 3: eight and a half. Big fan offensive line, that defense.

1758
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 3: I love Charlie Brewers just a winner. This is the

1759
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 3: team that might be favored in eleven of twelve games.

1760
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 3: I love this team. Good scheduling spots over eight and

1761
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,839
Speaker 3: a half for me, with Utah the other one Washington

1762
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 3: State under if you can find that under six and

1763
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 3: a half minus one fifty love that. Also love under

1764
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 3: six minus one twenty. I think it's going to take

1765
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 3: another year for role Witch in this transition, not only

1766
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 3: on the offense of the run top, but the defense

1767
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 3: of the four to five. The defenses is still a mess.

1768
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 3: I don't know who they're throwing the ball to, and

1769
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 3: Quarrentanham might be the quarterback, which would just be a nightmare.

1770
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,759
Speaker 3: I cannot see them in any world getting the seven wins,

1771
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 3: which means the win seven games. But the one that

1772
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 3: I didn't mention here that I'll talk about is Colorado.

1773
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: Under four and a half wins minus one oh five

1774
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 2: is what I got.

1775
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: The Colorado Buffalos.

1776
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 3: You might say under four and I wins Colorado. They

1777
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 3: went four and two last year. What Carl Dell's first year,

1778
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 3: which he's packed twelve coach here did an amazing job

1779
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 3: considering the circumstances.

1780
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: But I think it was a lot of spoken meares.

1781
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 2: I mean, who do they beat?

1782
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 3: I mean, their schedule was a cakewalk. You know, they

1783
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 3: got blown up by Utah the other year, then they

1784
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 3: got blwn up by Texas.

1785
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: In the bowl game.

1786
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of questions with this team. Quarterback

1787
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 3: still undetermined. We have another Tennessee transfer, j T. Shroud

1788
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 3: or Brennan Lewis who played in that bowl game and

1789
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 3: showed some flashes against Texas. But I have a lot

1790
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 3: of questions about the offensive line. They recently lost their

1791
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 3: best offensive lineman to Surgery's probably gonna be out the

1792
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 3: first three or four weeks. The defense, I've quite the

1793
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 3: defensive line is the mess like in the trenches. I

1794
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 3: have a lot of questions about this team. I look,

1795
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 3: they have talented backs. They have a bunch of young talent,

1796
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: you know Channault's younger brother, Jerry Rice's kid. There's just

1797
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 3: a lot of talent on the outside. But questions about quarterback.

1798
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 3: I have questions, a lot of questions about the offensive line,

1799
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 3: the defensive secondary, the defensive line. Linebacker really strong when healthy,

1800
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 3: but maybe a top fifteen linebacker group. But you know,

1801
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 3: Laman's recovering from an ACL. They have someone else recovered

1802
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 3: from ACL, so are they healthy. I'm not sure, but

1803
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 3: this team just a lot of smoking mirrors. Last year

1804
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 3: they just beat up on an easy schedule and they

1805
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 3: went to to ohero in one possession games. I think

1806
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of regression coming for Colorado this year.

1807
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 3: And their schedule is ridiculous. It's probably a top five

1808
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 3: artist schedule in the country. They play six ranked teams, right,

1809
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 3: so they got to get the five wins to go

1810
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 3: over this. I'm I make them like three point seven.

1811
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 3: So you look at their schedule and you say, and look,

1812
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 3: they played Texas A and M in Minnesota out in

1813
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 3: non conference in northern Colorado.

1814
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 2: They open with normal Colorado to win that game.

1815
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: They also get Arizona at home after a b I

1816
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 3: wait a waste to buy. That's your second win. They

1817
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 3: could beat Minnesota at home. Let's give them that win.

1818
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 3: It's a coin flip game. That's that's three wins. So

1819
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 3: assuming they win the coin flip game with Minnesota and

1820
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,799
Speaker 3: will give them Oregon State at home, that's four wins.

1821
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 3: With we're giving them the coin flip win. Let's find

1822
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 3: the fifth win. Maybe USC at home, Nope, but I

1823
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 3: don't see it at Cal. Yep, maybe that's it, but

1824
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 3: I like, I would like Cal in that game, and

1825
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 3: that's the week before they get to at Oregon.

1826
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1827
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 3: Then they're at UCLA Washington and then at Utah to

1828
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 3: close out the year. So you know, I'll give them

1829
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 3: one of Minnesota and Cal. But I think they lose

1830
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 3: at Cal and then I think Minnesota is a coin flip.

1831
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 3: So I think this team's either winning three or four

1832
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 3: games at the most, and I make it three seven.

1833
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 3: I think there's some regressions coming, questions about their trenches,

1834
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 3: and they're still undecided a quarterback.

1835
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 2: This defense is just really scares me.

1836
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 3: The schedule goes from extremely easy last year to one

1837
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 3: of the hardest in the country. It's a brutal schedule,

1838
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 3: and I think Colorado's in for a rough year in

1839
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 3: the Pact twelve.

1840
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree.

1841
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 4: They could only win five games on this schedule and

1842
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 4: they have to win them all to get to this

1843
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 4: with total.

1844
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 2: So definitely definitely goodbye there.

1845
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 4: I am going to go with two teams that we've

1846
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 4: already discussed at LINKS, so I'm gonna say first, Stanford

1847
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 4: under four. The days of the tip drill of our

1848
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 4: titands and our wide receivers getting deep passes from kJ

1849
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 4: Costello and Davis Mills and then Bryce Love, you know,

1850
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 4: running wild. Those days are gone. Those skill position players

1851
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 4: can't be replaced by a freshman Tanner McKee. This is

1852
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 4: an offensive line that's going to be able to protect him,

1853
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 4: but there is no one behind him to run the ball,

1854
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 4: there's nobody on the outside to throw to. And then

1855
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 4: the defense is progressively getting worse from a success rate standpoint.

1856
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 4: Stanford is heading in the wrong direction, and David shaw

1857
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 4: Is wants to be physical.

1858
01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: He wants to run twelve and thirteenth.

1859
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 4: That's two or three tight ends, and it's just not

1860
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 4: the style that's going to win a whole lot of games.

1861
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 4: The schedule is completely full of Power five programs. The

1862
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 4: only true bye week on this schedule is the actual

1863
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 4: bye week itself. The opener comes against Duce Spawn in

1864
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 4: Skyler Thompson with Kansas State. That is a game where

1865
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 4: essentially is a coin flip at a neutral site, but

1866
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 4: that neutral site is Arlington on a fast track, and

1867
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 4: Duke Spawn is going to be able to go wherever

1868
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 4: he wants in Skyler Thompson. They should be completely healthy

1869
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 4: coming into this game. So Stanford under four a game

1870
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 4: I project, well under I'm going to let that float

1871
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 4: until about a week before the season starts, and not

1872
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 4: only will I probably be on Kansas State, but I'm

1873
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 4: going to take the Stanford under there because the juice

1874
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 4: keeps going up, and a four and a half pop

1875
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 4: set's better.

1876
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: Than a four. As far as the total, I really love.

1877
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 4: On the Action Network app, you can see UCLA over

1878
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 4: seven everything that I love about this team, from the

1879
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 4: amount of experience they have from the recruiting classes, they've

1880
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 4: been able to maintain the retention level of Chip Kelly

1881
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 4: in year four, and then you go and look at

1882
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:09,520
Speaker 4: what they have from explosive weapons on offense, in the backfield,

1883
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 4: what they've had transfer in. But really this all boils

1884
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,879
Speaker 4: down to Dorian Thompson Robinson. He has shown us flashes

1885
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 4: over the last three years that he can be the

1886
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 4: best quarterback in the Pac twelve. The problem has always

1887
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 4: been the turnovers. I mean, when your career is twenty

1888
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 4: one big time throws and forty four turnover worthy plays,

1889
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 4: someone's got to come in and help dtr get to

1890
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 4: the right spot, and they did that with Ryan Gunderson

1891
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 4: coming in as the new quarterback coach, formerly passing game

1892
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 4: coordinator for San Jose State.

1893
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,839
Speaker 2: San Jose State who just showed.

1894
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 4: Up out of nowhere in college football and had Nick

1895
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 4: Starkele dropping bombs on everybody. Gunderson had that effect on

1896
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 4: the Spartans. He can have that same effect on the Bruins.

1897
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 4: He's proven it before. Oh he was nominated for a

1898
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 4: Broils Award before. He's proven that he can do it,

1899
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 4: and UCLA is going to get the new Heights because

1900
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:56,879
Speaker 4: of him. So over seven on the Bruins.

1901
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 3: Let's just hope that this doesn't turn out to be

1902
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,879
Speaker 3: Jeff mcglinsky Part two with Ucla.

1903
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 4: He said anyone electric and vertical, So I started betting

1904
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 4: San Diego State overs.

1905
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't help myself.

1906
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 3: San Diego State overs are gonna go ten and two

1907
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 3: this year.

1908
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 4: Now, do you know what it's like when an offensive

1909
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 4: coordinator says he wants to be electric and vertical vertical

1910
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 4: and then the game totals thirty nine and a half.

1911
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 4: I couldn't help myself. I just thought somebody could sneeze

1912
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 4: and score that many points, you know.

1913
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's move on a second down and

1914
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 3: let's talk our favorite future.

1915
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about the future.

1916
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: Every time you look at it, the changes because you

1917
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: looked at it.

1918
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 3: I talked that length why I took a shot on

1919
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 3: the upside of Arizona State. But there's a lot of

1920
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: uncertainty there and who knows what's gonna happen. So I'll

1921
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 3: say my favorite future is Washington to win the PAC

1922
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 3: twelve North plus one thirty five. It's out there. Find

1923
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 3: it to two team race in the North between Oregon

1924
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 3: and Washington.

1925
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 2: These two teams are very similar.

1926
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I have questions about both quarterback, they return

1927
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 3: a lot in the offensive line, it's a second year

1928
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator in their system, new defensive staff. That's just

1929
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 3: so many similarities. I have questions about the Washington's receivers,

1930
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 3: questions about Oregon's rush dy. But I just what it

1931
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 3: comes down to is the gap between these two teams

1932
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 3: I think is a lot narrower than the market is assuming,

1933
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 3: and the division will likely come down to that head

1934
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 3: to head game when they play each other, and they

1935
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 3: play in Washington, and I think that's basically a coin flip.

1936
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 3: So I'll take the plus one thirty five with Washington.

1937
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 3: On top of that, Washington has a much more manageable

1938
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 3: conference schedule. Oregon schedule is much more difficult on the

1939
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 3: road for two teams in a great home field. But

1940
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 3: in a game I think right now a lot can change.

1941
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 3: Would be basically a coin flip based on my power ranks,

1942
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 3: and again that likely will determine the division. Give you

1943
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 3: the Huskies plus one thirty five to win the North.

1944
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 3: Where are you going for your favorite pectical future?

1945
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I'm on that too.

1946
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 4: I am going to go to what is going to

1947
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 4: be a battle royale in the PAC twelve South between

1948
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 4: four teams that all and frankly should be priced the

1949
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 4: same to win the division, but they're not priced the same.

1950
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 4: And when we look at USC, there's just so many

1951
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 4: unanswered questions from are they going to ever you know,

1952
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 4: hand the ball off? Are they ever going to have

1953
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 4: a rushing game?

1954
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 2: You know?

1955
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 4: Is the is the boosters and the fans going to

1956
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 4: be able to handle this air raid to continue on?

1957
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 4: Are they going to get shut down when teams every

1958
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 4: defense besides maybe Utah rushes three and drops eight. I'm

1959
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 4: not liking the direction of the USC program to become

1960
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 4: extremely one dimensional, and you know they have to replace

1961
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 4: some havoc on defense. But when you look at UCLA,

1962
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 4: for all the reasons that I made there, there is

1963
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 4: they also cannot stop the rush. Any team with a

1964
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 4: rushing attack is going to be able to put them

1965
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 4: in their place and you're just going to have to

1966
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 4: outscore them. But when you get to Arizona State, we

1967
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 4: just don't know when the NCAA is going to bring

1968
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 4: a sledgehammer to that program. It could be next year,

1969
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 4: it could be right now. What we know is they're

1970
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 4: extremely talented, filled with super seniors, one of the best

1971
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the nation, being supported by Venisia's pizza. I

1972
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 4: love Arizona State, but that cloud that's surrounding that program

1973
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 4: right now because the recruiting violations has me off of them.

1974
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,839
Speaker 4: But more importantly, forget about the off field stuff. Arizona

1975
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 4: State's price is the real reason I'm not on them.

1976
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 4: When they were originally listed, they were as one of

1977
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 4: the favorites to win the South. It's totally deserved for

1978
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 4: what they have coming back. The team that is not

1979
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 4: being priced correctly that has all of these advantages on

1980
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 4: the field, has full of super seniors, a defense that's

1981
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 4: you know great and success rate unlike all these other

1982
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 4: defenses or.

1983
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: You know can't handle it.

1984
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 4: Utah has the defense from a success rate standpoint to

1985
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 4: stop the rush and the pass. They just need to

1986
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 4: learn how to how to handle an air raid and

1987
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 4: they'll be fine. But the transfer in of Charlie Brewer

1988
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 4: is the big difference. He's proved it another Power five

1989
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 4: conference before at a team not named Oklahoma, a team

1990
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 4: not named Texas. He was able to get a little

1991
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 4: Baylor to do some damage in that conference. And the

1992
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 4: price point is what makes the difference here. Utah has

1993
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 4: scheduling advantages, Utah has price advantages in the market, and

1994
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 4: they have a quarterback that can take them all the

1995
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 4: way to the championship game. I like Utah's number to

1996
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 4: win the Pac twelve South.

1997
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 3: YEP, great offens line, great defense, They're going to dominate

1998
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 3: the trenches. They have an identity, and Brewer is a winner.

1999
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 3: I don't hate it all. Right, before we get out

2000
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 3: of here, third down, really quickly pack twelve Championship game prediction.

2001
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Arizona State say my name over Washington,

2002
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 3: so that means I cash my I mean being really.

2003
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 2: Biased here, but obviously I bet it because I like it.

2004
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 3: Washington wins the Packed North and Arizona State cashes are

2005
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 3: my PAC twelve future.

2006
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: Where are you going?

2007
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 4: Do you really want to live in a world without

2008
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 4: Classic Coke? I am gonna have Stuckey saying my name

2009
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 4: at the end of the podcast season because Utah is

2010
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 4: the one that's going to win the South. They're going

2011
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 4: to go on to face Washington. I'm going to Utah

2012
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 4: to win the PAC twelve over Washington. I think the

2013
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 4: one thing to watch for this year. PAC twelve has

2014
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 4: a lot of interesting teams. There is a handful of

2015
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 4: them in the South that can really do some damage.

2016
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 4: Will that translate to the national level or will the

2017
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 4: PAC twelve continue to work themselves out of the national picture.

2018
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 2: We will find out. But I love you Tah over Washington.

2019
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 3: In this conference, there you have at the twenty twenty

2020
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 3: one PAC twelve betting preview, as comprehensive as you will

2021
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 3: find out.

2022
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:28,679
Speaker 2: There really fun conference.

2023
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 3: We'll be talking about them all year and getting a

2024
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 3: lot of Walter White.

2025
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 2: Quotes in your goddamn right.

2026
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening, Thank you for subscribing to the

2027
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 3: new feed. Thanks as always Colin for joining me. We're

2028
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 3: gonna go probably just eat rest our Eyes for two minutes,

2029
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 3: and then it's back to work. Next we have the

2030
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 3: group of five the sec and then before you know it,

2031
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 3: in less than twenty days, college football will be here.

2032
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,759
Speaker 3: So it's time for us to go get back to work.

2033
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 2: We'll cut you all later. He's out.