WEBVTT - Daredevil: Born Again S2E07: "The Hateful Darkness" 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.760 Warning today's episode Canday's spoilers for Darrevil Born Again Season two, 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:24.439 episode seven, and it's getting crazy folks. Hello, my name 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.520 is Jason gets Ups and I'm Rosie Knight, and welcome 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.600 back to xtra Vision, the podcast where we do you 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.199 your favorite shows, movies, comics, at pop culture, comedy, from 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.400 my heart warrivering you three episodes a week. 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.479 Maybe sometimes more, who knows. There's so many episodes you 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.120 never know. It is a blessing. You get some episodes, 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:49.360 you get three more, who knows. In today's episode, Oh guys, it's. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:50.640 Not sounding like a fun one. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:54.840 By the name Episode two O seven, The Hateful Darkness. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:56.480 I wonder what god dull. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.960 Things have been good recently? Nothing bad and devil I 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.680 don't think so. I'm sure nothing bad's gonna be dealing. 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:06.959 It's the Hateful Darkness. Guys. 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.600 We're gonna be checking in on how New York's doing 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:14.640 off the Vanessa's death and the protests against may Kingpin, 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.200 and then of course we will be bringing in Aaron. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.880 For discussions to talk about what's going on in New York. 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:26.080 As we head into the penultimate episode of Dirt Double 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:26.679 Board Again. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.440 It is the next day, the morning after the violent 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.039 protests at City Hall, dared Evil is listening to the 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:38.000 news reports and Mayor Kingpin is getting ready for work. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.959 He's ready to get back into the office. Karen Paige, 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:47.480 He's like, a fine, He's getting booked into the into 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:53.680 the system. She's fingerprinted, she's they're photographing her. She puts 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:58.160 on her jail scrubs, and she's going in thankfully, though, 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:03.440 or question more, she's not being put in a gulag 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:08.200 style jail in Red Hook, in a real jail. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.640 Question Mark like, is this it's real jail, it's actual. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:17.440 Lawful questions are not in the pirate jail, as far 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.800 as we know that in the pirate I think it's 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.000 better than pirate jail, probably slightly marginally. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.000 Betha Kingpin visits Karen in her cell. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:27.920 I thought, you go back to work. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:28.799 What is this? 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.280 What do you do appropriate just hanging around at the jail, 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:33.120 Like come on, sir. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.960 He harangues her for helping vigilantie Matt Murdoch, and Karen's like, well, 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:39.440 I think you're scared. I think you're scared of. 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:40.920 What's a crazy thing to say? 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:44.240 He strangles her through his through the cell bars. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.480 I guess it's not bad than the Red Hook goolag. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:53.280 Actually is like, you have one phone call use it wisely? 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.440 AKA cool, My boyfriend like, I need this weak to, 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.560 I need this beak to dead evil I need now. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.440 Mister Charles, not eating because he's asleep, wakes up to 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:07.840 find Jessica Jones at his bedside and she's like, listen, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.360 mister Charles, I'm not working for you anymore, confirming that 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:18.359 indeed she was working for the Black Bag Avengers assembled 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.519 by we assume Contessa Allegra Dufontaine. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.640 Yeah, what do we It was like Marvel suicide squad. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:30.880 She warns mister Charles to back off, don't send any 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:35.560 more guys again, that's right. And then mister Charles is like, 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.280 that's it, Okay, I won't do that. But by the way, 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.720 I heard from a little Bernie that your powers don't 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.920 work so good anymore, that they come in and out. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.480 And then he goes even further. He says, and by 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.640 the way, ever, wonder where your husband, father of your 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:51.200 child is. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:52.040 I know where he is. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:57.320 He's overseas doing black bag work for Luke. 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:59.960 Okay, we were right though, Yeah. 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.000 We were all right. Whatever this organization is and mister 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:08.680 Charles says, I am not working for Fisk anymore, Like 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:13.040 we're we're enemies now, and I think the governor's in 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:14.680 a little bit of trouble. So that's the information you 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:20.200 should know. JJ talks to Matt. Fisk is gonna kill 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.160 the governor because the governor can provoke the Red Hook Charter, 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:25.239 which we all knew about. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.560 Also, can I just say, like, this is so silly, 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.000 because when you really think about this plan, like, is 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.440 fits just gonna kill everyone who ever knew about the 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:34.200 chaw like. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:35.360 And how it can be remote. 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.599 So far, I mean, so far it's got quite good. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.599 I'm not gonna lie. But it's very Pirates of the 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:40.840 Caribbean plot line that I. 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.760 Love, I know. So Matt is like, okay, Jessica, you 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.440 need to meet my my pal Cherry, who basically does 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.200 what you do, but with a worse heart, and he's 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.040 a lot older and. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.440 He's not and that's superpowers. 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:56.440 Yes. So Cherry is like, hey, I've got news. Karen 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.919 is in jail. She's in the fifteenth Precinct. Don't go 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.679 so down there, Matt. I know that's what you want 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.320 to do, is just go run down there. Don't do it. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.200 I will handle it. That's what you have me for. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.120 I have all my contacts at the precinct still the 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:16.240 aka the Good Apples, and Cherry then says, it's just 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:21.640 detective Kim. Well, it's like four others. There's like, yeah, 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.520 there's like three or four gen X detectives who are 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:25.599 like the good guys. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.200 They just listening to led Zeppelin. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:35.599 Yeah, the good guy detectives. Uh. Cherry tells Jessica Joes, Hey, 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.120 city needs you, babe. I don't know if you've I 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.960 don't know if you've seen the news, but I need 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.360 to require please. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.839 He's like, move from upstate New York, Cello House, come back. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.200 You're like somebody who left your COVID. Come back the seeds, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:50.400 you know. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.839 Come back down from Woodstock. Shit's crazy down here. We 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.920 need you. Dared of all Meanwhile, is like, well, if 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.000 Karen is at the fifteenth, the force is gonna go 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.000 there and they're gonna like try and assassinate her. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.320 Oh my god, he's so over the top, Like no offense. 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.239 But I love Cavin Page, I do, and I'm glad 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:11.160 she's got more to do. 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.920 But like, why does Matt think that is. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.160 Like gonna be the number one focus of the task force. Maybe, 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.080 like what does she really do? I guess she just 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:20.039 they should have. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.719 Just I will say I found this strange as well, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.240 just because like I think, if they were gonna kill her, 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.760 they should have just killed her at the protest, and you. 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.160 Know, like Wills Fitz could have just killed her right then. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.920 But this man instead is like you got one phone 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.840 called police school, my mude or please it's like call 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.000 him yourself. Man, just kill her, Like I mean, I 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.560 don't want Karen to die, but this is a silly, 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.719 a silly conflict that they've created. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:45.400 On this one. 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.280 Matt goes to visit Bullseye in the punish her basement, 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:54.080 and I guess has just alone, just been alone, handcuffed 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.320 to the cot, starving and like pissing and shitting himself. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.200 Oh yeah, what's even doing the hours since. 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:05.640 Maybe his like maybe his like training, his like secret 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.560 service training means he can really hold it in. 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.240 But also like insane that they just left him there. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.640 And also you're telling me that my guy couldn't have 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.560 found like a tiny splinter and like spacked it into 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.720 the fucking look and unchained himself here. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:22.480 I don't believe it. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.760 I think he was well, I think it's this is 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.080 Dex on his best behavior. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.160 He's I was gonna say, he's waiting for them. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.840 He's trying to show like I'm a good guy now, 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.160 and uh, you know, I really want to balance the scales. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:40.000 And Daredevil is like, okay, let's bounce the scales. But first, like, 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.680 let's just get all our cards on the table. I 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:47.000 want you to know, take confession. Of course he does. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.120 He's like, here's let me put all my cards on 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.880 the table. As Matt Murdoch, I hate you because of 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.960 like the eighty ninety people you killed, including of course 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:03.000 my closest friend Foggy and which, by the way, Dex 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.800 knows and everybody knows. But that's good that you need 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:10.239 to say that. Okay sure, and he says like, Dex, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.080 if you really want to make amends, you've got to 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.480 help me now, and you've got to do it without 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.480 killing anybody, which is not gonna happen. 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:19.960 No. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.360 Like Also, this is my thing about Matthew, right, is 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.080 like you love to hang around with a serial killer. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.840 Stop trying to save them, Like you can't save them, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.840 just utilize them for what you need. You're worried that 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.240 the task force is gonna go get your girlfriend. Okay, 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.880 send this man who is extremely good at killing fascist, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.600 fucking cops, and send him to kill them so they 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:42.400 don't do that to huh, Like, you don't need to. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.520 I know that, Matt. You know what, though, I'm not 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.520 gonna lie. We love how he tries to save everyone's souls. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.000 That's like his whole thing. So I can't complain too much. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.199 But let my man free. Let Dex kill somebody. He's 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:53.680 a good boy. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.880 I think that that will happen. Karen is languishing in 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.319 jail Detective Brett Mahoney from season two of Deer All 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.000 Netflix Unexpected shows up. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:04.800 All. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.920 I love how they're resurfacing the Netflix people. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.280 We need more detectives. There's only three. 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.600 I mean, we need more. There's a nice little like 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.920 reunion beat and she tells him, you know Fisk was 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.120 down here strangling me. He's like, I know, there's nothing 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.080 we could do about that. He's the fucking mayor with fucking. 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.920 He's like, sorry, if the Max honestly, look, I'll be real, guys, 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:33.760 I have had I There are politicians in Los Angeles 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.559 and they will just let them go to a homeless 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.120 person's tent and basically just steal all their shit for 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:39.920 like a photo op. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.040 So maybe the MAC can choke somebody in a jail, 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:44.600 Like honestly, I believe it. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.560 I think he's been getting away with work. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.240 I really like the The answer to it is like, 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.000 we can't do anything about it, so we just gonna. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:52.319 Let you free. 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.200 That's how I should be with every kind of corruption. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.880 It's like, yeah, the corrupt system's harming you. I'm just 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:58.840 gonna let you out of the back. That's a moral 0:09:59.160 --> 0:09:59.959 that's moral police. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.080 So he lets her out of her jail. So he 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.839 produces the key and like pops up in the jail. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:12.240 No CCTV in this place, like Fiske strake not an issue, 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.040 like this happened, not an issue. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:18.960 Well, if there's no CCTV in the cell, there's got 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:19.800 to be in the hallway. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.840 What I'm saying, like, this is bad. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.320 Literally what giving. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.800 A White House correspondence then a level of security. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:33.760 So he did, so they pop caring at it out 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.400 of her cell. They walk her down the hallway and 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.360 out the door of the back of the precinct where 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.760 there is also no camera and Matt is just crouched 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:48.559 man broad daylight. It's daytime. He's crouched against the wall 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.800 and oh no, it's night time. Sorry, it's you know. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.120 Just walks her out. Matt is crouched against the wall, 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:56.040 and Matt's there. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.160 They hug, guys. I gotta say this, this is like 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.400 one oh one. If you're doing a crime hypothetically, like 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.320 imagine hypothetically, imagine you were doing like a small crime, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.560 like you're just doing some small victimless crime, like you're 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.199 shoplifting or something hypothetically, and you were going to meet 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.480 up with someone that you had been shoplifting with, you 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.160 would not do it outside the back of the crime 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.520 the space, like meet further away, go to a coffee shop, 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.040 like anywhere else. These people are so bad at this, 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.880 but I still love them. It's very comic, Bookie. It's efficient. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.080 It's efficiency of storytelling. But there are a lot of 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.199 moments in this where I was yelling at the TV 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.480 in a way that everyone who knows me knows, Like 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.760 if they come into my house, they knock on the door, 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:35.920 they hear me yelling at the TV. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:36.840 They know I'm committed. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.760 They're not getting me off that show, like i'd be 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.040 talking to those characters very silly. 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.040 So yeah, but it's fun stuff. 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:49.120 So Karen is like, I don't want you to break 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:50.920 me out. I want to have my day in court. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:52.480 I want to face Fisk, I want to face down 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:53.120 the Karen zone. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:53.839 I got broken out. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:59.679 And she says he's different now post Vanessa. She means, 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.440 and I can tell because he was recently strangling me 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.960 in the gym. We're just like, yeah, it's okay, and 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:08.640 jast like. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:14.480 It's not anymore about like the pleasant play, the charismatic, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.360 smart villain who's always ten steps ahead, like this man 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.679 came in and said, call your boyfriend, I'm gonna choke you. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.040 Like, what's I'm gonna choke you? Now? 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.160 Lots of choking going on this season. It's a strangulation 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:26.160 heavy season. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.480 Say, very very choked. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.880 I gotta say, actually, I was very happy as well. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.120 I know something, Me and Jason we got deep cut tastes. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.079 We're funny guys, we're weirdo as we know. That's why 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:36.400 you guys like to listen to us. But I got 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.560 to say I was happy with how much everyone else 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:42.640 was as hilarious about the choking as we were about 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.160 Heather's grim like everyone responded correctly to episode two o six, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.959 every other podcast, every other vibe, every response correct. This 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.600 is a choke heavy show. Yeah, the chokey like Matilda. 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.240 That's whath I'm gonna start calling it. They're gonna put 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:55.480 you in the choky Karen Page. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:00.480 So Karen is like, listen, I want to feel court. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.160 Daredevil's like, oh, you know, Fisk knows he's losing the 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.760 city and he's freaking out. He's going to try and 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.560 destroy you in court. You gotta know that. But they 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.240 talk about how the fact that all of this is 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.920 televised and televised all across the city and surely like 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.760 the country as well, that can be like the jury, 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.640 like it's a tribunal system, but like they can they 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.160 can play to the court of public opinion. And then 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:29.320 Matt drops the hint like maybe al show so okay, 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:34.800 oh d a Hackman updates Fisk on the Karen Page 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.680 trial and Fisc is like, I want you to fucking 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.319 go crazy on here, like I want you to go 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.840 balls to the wall the AG and he's like, well, 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.160 I gotta be careful because the age the State Ag 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.719 is going to be involved, and so we got to 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:53.720 kind of watch our p's and q's because the governor 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.600 is a little tight on us and the Fisk doesn't 0:13:55.640 --> 0:14:01.240 care about that. Then Heather comes in and Hawkman is like, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.839 I need you, Heather, I need you on this case. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:10.240 And Fisk tells Heather after Hawkman leaves that he's like, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:14.920 I hate Hawkman. He makes my skin crawl, and Heather 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.000 is like, I also hate Lloyd. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:18.520 Okay, bomb bum bum. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:23.240 Let me just say, does this feel to you like 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:28.160 Wilson is like setting her up here to potentially kill Hawkman? 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.200 Like I feel like he's basically winking at her and going, yeah, 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.680 he fucking scheves me out too, because he is he 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.040 is creepy. He's he basically as soon as he realized 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:42.680 that Heather, for whatever reason, would change the scores on 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.440 the test to prove that the Swordsman was secretly crazy, 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.520 he basically immediately then went to, oh, we should go 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.320 to dinner, like he thought that he would be able 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.480 to control her. He's a scheme, He's a creep and 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.240 I kind of love that. Fisk here was almost like, okay, 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.000 could this be another killer? Like could she be another 0:14:59.120 --> 0:14:59.640 buck for me? 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:01.520 Like it feels like he knows. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:08.080 My sense is that yes, and also that I think 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:14.040 if Hawkman fails, he just wants him gone. If he 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:14.640 can't like. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, if he can't do this, yeah, like 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.000 get him out of there. So he's thought and already 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:20.920 spread in those seeds. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.680 Yeah, that's exactly right, Heather says, you know, I just 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.520 came to check on you to see how you're doing. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:31.360 To Fisk, you know, because of the very famous thing 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.880 where Vanessa was killed by a shard of your memorial 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:39.360 bust at the fight that you were having, the scrapping 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.800 in the kitchen fight, you remember, And Fisk is like, yeah, 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.960 Fisk is like, of course he's struggling. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:46.360 You know. 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.720 He doesn't mention that he recently strangled Karen Page in jail, 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.960 and he tells her that, you know, I never expected 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.640 to fall I never expected to fall in love or 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:59.160 be left alone with that love. He tells her, Oh, 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:00.000 that's such a good line. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.840 And I love the wrong I love when they write 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:03.440 him a bang off, I know. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:08.240 And then he's like, by the way, this is crazy. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:15.000 He pops out the other earring of Vanessa's that from 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:19.880 the set that Heather purloined from the bedroom. When she 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:24.560 in the scene where she was later strangling Buck, he's like, 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:28.880 I know you took it. But he doesn't mention choking Buck, 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.440 but he's like, I know you took it, and he 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.280 like basically is like here and you can. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.400 Have the other one. Crazy. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.320 I think he's grooming her to be his strangler. 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.400 I was gonna say his little stranger strangle with maybe 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.920 a little bit like a strangler with benefits, because I 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:44.360 feel like. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.560 The way he's to learn about there's the way he's 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:47.480 talking about love. 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.840 I feel like he's kind of like, you know, I'm 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.840 gonna be left all alone, but you can have this, 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:53.360 uh this earring. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.760 You know, everybody feels like they're gonna fuck anyway. 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:02.200 That's a weird sexual like chemistry and electricity that Evil had, 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.800 that has that is just impacting everyone on the show 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:06.360 in a really weird way. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:09.719 Let's go to a break and we'll be right back 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:11.240 and talk about the rest of this episode. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:23.360 And we're back. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:26.640 Dan and Biebe are arguing. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:28.040 He knows that. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.040 He's basically like, let's just have it out, Like you've 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.400 been taking information that you get from me, and you've 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.680 been putting it out there and you are the BB report, 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:42.880 you were the mask Fisk and and you're putting all 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.760 of us in a really bad spot. You're putting us 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.200 in danger. And he's like, you don't understand. Buck is 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.440 very dangerous and I can't protect you from him, And 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:56.960 then Bbe complains this is I love BB, but this 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.720 is the craziest. This conversation is so out of touched. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.440 Dan is like trying to basically say, like, your life 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.879 is in danger. I watched Buck cut up a body. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:12.600 And BB's like, but you don't understand. I started this 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.920 indie media company that I then sold to Fisk, and 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.960 Fisk has ruined it. I'm like, babe, welcome to the industry. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:23.720 Also, yeah, all of all, have you ever have you 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.119 ever done a Google? Why do you sell it? Have 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.520 you ever heard of private equity? 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:30.200 Yeah? 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:31.680 Why did you sell it? 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:32.000 Tim? 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.359 Why did you take the money? Don't do that? That's 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.919 an BB. Also, wait, I gotta know how much did 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.040 you sell it to him before? Because you want to 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:41.480 know too. 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.359 By Dan's busted ass apartment, I would have begat at 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:49.160 least six seven figures seven minimum from Medphisk Like he's 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.280 got a pirate chart that he has treasure, he has 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.640 a free home. I feel like she did a bad 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.480 job here. Her and Dan should have planned on this more. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:57.960 I do love again. 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.600 I know, and we're not the only people who've been 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:00.800 saying this about Michael. 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:05.760 Gandelfini, but you get this, yeah, desperation and fear and 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.320 realness in his performance in this scene that I think 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.280 just cements him as someone who outside of the MCU 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.639 is going to continue to have like an incredible career, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.280 Like this man has the fucking juice. Like this scene 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.640 ends up feeling aside from BB being a dumb cough 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:23.320 but you know what, that's how it is in the 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.760 Sopranos too. You really could believe this is like a 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.840 serious crime mob moment, like he fucking sells that shit 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:33.600 and he's like, I'm gonna do it, man, I'm gonna 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:34.159 do the right thing. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.119 But you can see this fear in his head and 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.440 uh oh, it's so good. 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:46.760 So after this BB is like, well, you should also 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:51.560 know that mey or Fisk killed my uncle. You figurd 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:55.400 you think he didn't know that, and you know, you're 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.240 just ignoring the fact that he killed my uncle. And 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.240 Dan is like, okay, you got me. I am doing that. 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:01.879 I am ignoring the fact that he did that. I 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:06.440 didn't know, but listen, and then he like tells her everything. 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.320 He's basically like, Buck is waiting for me to hand 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.520 you over, and if you don't like, if I don't 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.440 do that, my family and I are dead, Like he's 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.679 gonna legitimately like murder us. 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.920 And BB is like, we should run your mom's vote 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.440 for Fisk, so who has honestly I know as well, 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.399 though no this I like the way that BB's like, 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:30.679 we should run and I'm like, okay, so what can 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.719 you use some of that fucking five hundred million dollars 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.800 I hope you got for selling your independent digital media 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.480