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Speaker 1: up down Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty right there? Rights the latest news

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Speaker 1: and notes from the guys who cover the teams. Rilled

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Speaker 1: by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring

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Speaker 1: it on. Slammed the ground by Fota Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic i'd so you know, it's back to

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Speaker 1: normalcy in a way, when the NFL Draft party is

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Speaker 1: back after a two year hiatus. Studico right, PAULI pandemic

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Speaker 1: over here, Danny Serect, Darren Urban, I'm gonna be out

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Speaker 1: there with my keys are blowing in the wind on

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Speaker 1: the mic NFL Draft Party two thousand and twenty two.

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Speaker 1: And I always like to use the line at these

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Speaker 1: things where I say, you know, what sports is the

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Speaker 1: original reality TV? Is it not? The NFL Draft unfolds

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Speaker 1: as if it's a reality TV show? Just the mere

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Speaker 1: mention of that, and you two got into some sort

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Speaker 1: of squabble. I mean, how many reality TV shows are

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Speaker 1: Let's get something clear. I don't want quite Frankly, at

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Speaker 1: this point, I don't watch any reality I will say this.

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Speaker 1: My wife is watching this season of American Idols, so

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Speaker 1: I guess that technically counts. But but the other shows

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Speaker 1: we were talking about, I don't watch any of them,

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Speaker 1: and I'm you just named like a half dozen of

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Speaker 1: But see, this is what concerns me, Paul. I mean,

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Speaker 1: are you living on this earth? I mean, how do

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Speaker 1: you not know? These shows? Survive were Big Brother have

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Speaker 1: been around for like twenty years? You heard? Oh no,

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Speaker 1: I've heard of every one of them. That's what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not investing anytime watching them, but I thought

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Speaker 1: you the way you were just disagreeing with Danny over here,

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Speaker 1: you seem very invested. Things took a turn quite fast,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure talking about later she was talking about hicking

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Speaker 1: me off a show I'm not even on. That's how things.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they necessarily started, but they ended

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Speaker 1: by me saying I would go on Survivor with Darren

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Speaker 1: so I would vote him. That's what she said. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So somehow it went from zero to one hundred real quick.

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Speaker 1: And you both had co workers and by that who

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Speaker 1: were on Survivor once upon a time, which I not

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Speaker 1: a co worker here, but yees a co worker when

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Speaker 1: I was at the East Valley Tribune, and she ended

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Speaker 1: up going on Survivor once and it was a former

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Speaker 1: He was my former co worker when I was there.

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Speaker 1: He's still working there. He was on it last season.

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Speaker 1: So during COVID, so I had never really watched Survivor.

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Speaker 1: Came out when it when she was young, came out

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Speaker 1: to me when I had kids and like had a life,

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Speaker 1: cowboys and oh gosh, So anyway, Danna cra did really well.

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Speaker 1: He made the merge. We're going to work in Drew

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Speaker 1: Locke and Missoo a little bit better. Boy. Those are

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Speaker 1: the three films that are just automatically. I understand why

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Speaker 1: Darren would come for me. But Paul, come on, well,

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Speaker 1: somebody came for the Merge means now I get what

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Speaker 1: bag when it comes to Survivor or Big Brother or whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was just asking if if there was a Survivor

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Speaker 1: eat rice once a day, i'd I'll lay the Vegas

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Speaker 1: odds in that Quentin Harris would be the man to beat.

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Speaker 1: He goes out for like three weeks on his own. Grayson,

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Speaker 1: merge as a synonym for segue Can I go with that?

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Speaker 1: Can I say that you can in this contact, because

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Speaker 1: if we're never going to get this breadcast, because we're

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Speaker 1: dying for a segue right now. So if years ago

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Speaker 1: for Lent, I gave up reality TV shows, in particular

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor and Batchel right, you were watching those ones

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Speaker 1: which are you, big skune guy? In the morning coffee?

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Speaker 1: You know, either a chocolate chip cookie or scone with coffee.

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Speaker 1: You just can't drink coffee chocolate chip cookie for breakfast.

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Speaker 1: Why are you judging that? Sounds like an amazing life

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Speaker 1: years ago. You're absolutely right. You're like, how am I

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Speaker 1: winning the off season by you know, over here packing

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Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookies for breakfast. You're right, there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm giving up next year and I

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Speaker 1: should have given up this year mock draft. I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna give up mock drafts every year this time a year.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the latest one out as we go

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Speaker 1: to the mock draft update desks regrettably NFL dot Com

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Speaker 1: and look, we like Lancer line a lot, but when

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Speaker 1: he gives us highly disagree with this one. This is

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Speaker 1: three point zero for him when they when they give

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Speaker 1: don't know what it is. First of all, it's four

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Speaker 1: rounds and it includes trades, okay, And he's only looked

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Speaker 1: well be like a creative writing project for a junior

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Speaker 1: college English class. But to be truthful, come on, if

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Speaker 1: you don't have trades, then you're definitely never gonna nail

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Speaker 1: anything because there's always trades. But anyways, go ahead, So

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Speaker 1: he has a Cardinals trading out of twenty three moving

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Speaker 1: which if he's there at twenty three, of the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cardinals select twenty ninth overall running back Bruce Hall out

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Nope. So h look here here's here's

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Speaker 1: the most intriguing part of these mock drafts, and might

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Speaker 1: be the only reason I'm looking at these mock drafts

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get an answer to one question, and

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Speaker 1: one question only, how many quarterbacks are going to be

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Speaker 1: Because if you're telling me only two quarterbacks are going

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Speaker 1: to be drafted before the Cardinals, that's problematic. As in

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Speaker 1: might have been. McShay had five quarterbacks going before the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals draft at number twenty three. If you're telling

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Speaker 1: five of them go and it pushes that many more

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Speaker 1: you think, Danny, how many quarterbacks go? Because if there

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Speaker 1: One of the interesting things I've I've that I've seen,

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Speaker 1: and again I'm not making this commitment to what I

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that feel like the players

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about Nick Bosa, you know, and obviously

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks you've already mentioned no, but he is talking

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Speaker 1: either you can play or you can't. But getting back

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Speaker 1: to Daniel Jeremiah, because they transcribe what he told Dave

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Speaker 1: Pass on the Pash podcast just about what he liked

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Speaker 1: the most about Trail and Burkes. He mentioned the measurables,

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Speaker 1: the physical part of his play, and he said, I

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Speaker 1: looked at wide receiver the last few years, and what

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Speaker 1: do the top wide receiver is all have in common.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's different styles or skill sets, they all of

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Speaker 1: this one thing in common. And that is what he

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Speaker 1: calls play strength, the ability to make a play on

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Speaker 1: the ball when it's up in the air in traffic.

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Speaker 1: The guys who can come down with it, Jamar Chase, Deebo,

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Speaker 1: Samuel A. J. Brown, even Cooper Cup, he's sighted at

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Speaker 1: two fifteen to twenty, has a lot of play strength.

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Speaker 1: And once again, Cooper Cup is not a burner. He's

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Speaker 1: not a guy who's gonna wow you in the forty

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Speaker 1: and he said, this is Daniel Jeremiah still to add

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Speaker 1: that sort of wide receiver to d Hop and Rondelle Moore,

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Speaker 1: he thinks would be an asset. Once again, I don't

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Speaker 1: want the Jahan Dotson types, you know, the hundreds, you know,

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Speaker 1: but if you're giving me de hop Burks and Rondelle Moore,

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Speaker 1: I think there's enough difference in those three receivers. At

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Speaker 1: the very least, a defense is gonna have to keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on a trailing Burks and it's gonna help,

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Speaker 1: you know, in terms of DeAndre Hopkins, because when you

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Speaker 1: see this stat and I know you saw this, Darren

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Speaker 1: uh In fact, DeAndre Hopkins himself retweeted, do you guys

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Speaker 1: probably Also it was from the Pro Football Focus Patriots

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Speaker 1: account on Twitter. Highest passer rating generated when targeted in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Number one DeAndre Hopkins one forty one

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Speaker 1: point four was the passer rating by Cardinals QBS mostly

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray teting DeAndre hops passer rating can get his

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Speaker 1: one fifty eight point three and that was number one

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Speaker 1: in the NFL highest passer rating generated when targeted as

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Speaker 1: a receiver. So what does that tell us? A that

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Speaker 1: tells us de Hoppa is really good? But number two? Um,

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Speaker 1: does that tell you the Cardinals in dire need of

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Speaker 1: another option? Well? Let me if if we're talking about

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna hence hence it's worth a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: trailing barks, we're gonna stick with that if they draft him.

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Speaker 1: So throwing out the question here, what about the thoughts

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Speaker 1: of bringing back someone like in aj Green? Why does

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Speaker 1: that have to be stuck on those You're on those

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Speaker 1: as your wide receivers. Well, I mean, I think I

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Speaker 1: think that option is very much there right now because

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Speaker 1: you cannot go into the you cannot go into the

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Speaker 1: draft assuming you're going to get a receiver or at

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Speaker 1: least a receiver that I mean, they're going to draft

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Speaker 1: a receiver, but is it going to be in the

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Speaker 1: first round, second round, even third round, or is it

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Speaker 1: going to be one of those later picks. So I

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Speaker 1: think a G Green is absolutely still on the board

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Speaker 1: depending on what happens in the draft. And you know

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Speaker 1: that's that's kind of how I'm looking at it right now. Um,

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Speaker 1: because if you do get there and the right pass

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Speaker 1: rushers there in the first round, and then a really

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Speaker 1: good cornerback is there in the second round, well maybe

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Speaker 1: that's what you're going on. And we haven't even talked

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Speaker 1: about offensive lineman, which I'm not ruling out We've talked

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Speaker 1: about this before, Danny. I mean, you know, four or

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Speaker 1: five starters are gonna are going to be free agents

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Speaker 1: after the season, so you know, you you and they

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Speaker 1: don't have a backup center at the moment, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I do think that they've got to continue to build

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Speaker 1: on that. And look, I'm not advocating that you have

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Speaker 1: to do everything because it's about the offense and everything,

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Speaker 1: but at some point, you know, because he already has

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Speaker 1: your quarterback, is going to notice when you don't take

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Speaker 1: an offensive player in the first round, and if you

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Speaker 1: do it for a third year in a row. What

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Speaker 1: was the year all the Cowboys fans wanted Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: to draft Johnny Manziel and he went with there were

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Speaker 1: a right guard or best pick Jerry never made and

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Speaker 1: then did make No Johnny Manziel right for Martin. Forget

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Speaker 1: the fans, forget the headlines, forget the live TV trucks

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Speaker 1: outside the complex. We're just going Zach Martin at guard

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Speaker 1: and I that would be the equivalent Cardinal style this year,

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Speaker 1: Like we're all I'm sitting here, I'm drooling over a

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Speaker 1: Treylon Burks or give me some big pass rusher with

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Speaker 1: a motor or even give me Davante. Why at the

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Speaker 1: human wrecking ball from the inside, that Georgia d lineman extraordinary,

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Speaker 1: Give me one of those guys. And then you go

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Speaker 1: with some guard out of Texas A and M whose

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Speaker 1: name I already forget and I can never remember, and

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Speaker 1: for a good reason, because he's an interior offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: But it might end up being the best pick you

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Speaker 1: could possibly make in the long term, to Darren's point,

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Speaker 1: and you're right, I am dismissing or at least neglecting

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Speaker 1: to mention that offensive line very much could be a

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Speaker 1: priority because teams always typically work a year in advance,

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Speaker 1: so you're least going to have some needs this time

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Speaker 1: next year at offensive line. It's not the sexy pick,

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Speaker 1: and we all know, Paul, you're all about the sexy.

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Speaker 1: So well, here's my other fear, thanks for asking, is

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Speaker 1: that when it comes to wide receiver, there could be

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Speaker 1: a big run right before the Cardinals pick, because in

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Speaker 1: all these mock drafts, most of these mock drafts, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles are targeting receiver at eighteen, the Saints are targeting

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Speaker 1: receiver at nineteen, the Patriots are definitely targeting receiver at

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Speaker 1: twenty one, and of course the Packers are thinking receiver

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Speaker 1: at twenty two, even though they haven't drafted a receiver

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Speaker 1: in the first round in some fifteen twenty years. The

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Speaker 1: status ridiculous. Last time the Packers went receiver in round one,

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Speaker 1: and other other teams I know, at least the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: pick I know, you keep saying that, but pick twenty

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Speaker 1: four and they got rid of or they let go

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Speaker 1: Sagrig Wilson, Amari Cooper. So there's other teams who will

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Speaker 1: likely be looking to trade up to get a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver as well. It's not just those teams already set

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Speaker 1: in front of the Cardinals. Then again, the last time

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals went receiver in round one Michael Floyd twenty twelve. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that means that Steve Kim, we took over officially as

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Speaker 1: GM in twenty thirteen, has never drafted receiver as a

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Speaker 1: position in round one. Correct. No, And it just doesn't

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Speaker 1: ring true to me that it would be something. I mean,

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Speaker 1: unless it was somebody super special. I mean, hell, you

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00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: can go back and it's a different game. We all

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Speaker 1: know that. But you can go back to two thousand

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Speaker 1: and four and if Steve Kim had been in charge

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Speaker 1: of that draft, I believe the Cardinals would have taken

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and that would have been Larry Fitzgerald. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Let that hang in the air. That's really it. By

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Speaker 1: the way, two thousand and four was the year with

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Speaker 1: the most receivers taken in the first round of any draft.

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Speaker 1: There were seven. There was seven taken that year. Now

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Speaker 1: the last two years have been six and five and

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Speaker 1: one year or the other, so that number has been

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Speaker 1: ratcheting up and again. The thing about receivers these days is,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's saying this, because of the influx of more

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Speaker 1: pass first high school programs, which took a while to

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Speaker 1: catch up, but it's now it's becoming easier to win

554
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: by spreading out high school defenses and throwing the ball

555
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Speaker 1: over the place. And you have all these seven on

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Speaker 1: seven passing leagues and everything. There is a belief that

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Speaker 1: you were always going to have four or five stud

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00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: receivers coming out on a yearly basis. Now, so you

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Speaker 1: don't get one now, or one might become a free

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00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: agent later, or there might become and that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: That's why, that's one of the reasons the Packers were

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Speaker 1: willing to move on from DeVante Adams. It's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons all these teams are willing to trade on

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Speaker 1: these receivers that have been good. That's one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons there's so much talk about whether the Seahawks keep

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Speaker 1: both Tyler Lockett and or DK Metcalfe. It's because we

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Speaker 1: know we could probably get somebody cheaper all over in

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Speaker 1: the draft than somebody else can pay them. And let's

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Speaker 1: not forget that the Cardinals are also already paying a

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Speaker 1: hefty price for a wide receiver. The best thing that's

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Speaker 1: happened in the last week is the fact that the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans gave another two years to Brandon Cooks because

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Speaker 1: I couldn't stand seeing those rumors out there that the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to give up a Round two pick

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Speaker 1: for Brandon Cooks and pay the contrac Why would you

576
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Speaker 1: think that would happen? Well, a ton of rumors out there.

577
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: Wolfe was hammering me with it that he was on

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00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: board with get trade your round two pick for Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, and give him the contract. No and more no,

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you on that one. The best news

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Speaker 1: I saw over the weekend is when the Texans came

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Speaker 1: to terms of Brandon Cooks on a long term extension. Great,

583
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Speaker 1: eliminate that possibility please. And by the way, Daniel Jeremiah

584
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: told dap Ah that when he was with the Ravens

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Speaker 1: in their personnel department, one pick that they they rued

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Speaker 1: the day when they failed to pick an Quon Bolden,

587
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Speaker 1: that he was on that that they loved an Quan Bolden.

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00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: They didn't pull the trigger in an Quon Bolden and

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Speaker 1: man from game one of his rookie year, which was

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Speaker 1: a record setting game at Detroit, which I think you

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Speaker 1: were at that game right, Yes, what was it ten

592
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Speaker 1: for two seventeen or something? Were even ten for two

593
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Speaker 1: seventeen and two touchdowns touch Yet all an Quan could

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Speaker 1: think about was a muffed punt return that ended up

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Speaker 1: turning the game in the lions favor. Yeah, that's classic

596
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Speaker 1: an Quon. So and by the way, um, not to

597
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Speaker 1: rub it into the Ravens, but um, they I looked

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Speaker 1: at their draft picks in two thousand and three, the

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Speaker 1: year an Kwon Bolden was drafted, that was the year

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Speaker 1: they got to roll Sugs, by the way tenth overall

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Speaker 1: in the trade with the Cardinals. Yep. And that's when

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00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had traded down to seventeen and eighteen and

603
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: they got Brian Johnson and Calvin Pace right, Okay, well

604
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: they rated down to get Jerome McDougall, who the Eagles

605
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Speaker 1: ended up taking, I believe at fifteen and so of

606
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, the Cardinals, thinking that McDougall would be there,

607
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: kind of had to adjust. Well. The rest of their

608
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Speaker 1: draft class that year, by the way I looked it up,

609
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Speaker 1: so it was Sugs t Sizzle tenth, Kyle Boller nineteenth.

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00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Bowler is to Mike cal Bears what Drew Locke

611
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Speaker 1: is to your missoo what what's what's your nickname again?

612
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: The Missoo Tigers? Thank you. I'm just giving hard. Locke

613
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: was a little bit better at Missouri than Kyle Bowler was. Whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: that's it, that's it, that's the fight words easy. It

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Speaker 1: was his uh, I believe. So this was two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three, so you know what that was the first

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00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: year Jeff Hepford came in, Okay, and he turned around.

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00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: Kyle Bowler made him a first round pick, and then

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Speaker 1: right after Kyle Bowler, you know who came in Aaron Rodgers.

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00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: I've heard of him. So the quarterback whisperer, that was

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Speaker 1: Jeff Hepford in Berkeley. By the way, the rest of

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Speaker 1: the draft class in the third round, Moosa Smith, the

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Speaker 1: running back out of Georgia, the Ravens draft class. I'm

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Speaker 1: not really sure why we're talking about who had less

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Speaker 1: than five I'm just saying. I'm just saying that that

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00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: the Ravens regretted not taking an Quan Bold. It's just

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Speaker 1: you know. But here's what else, Daniel Jeremiah said. As

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Speaker 1: I scroll up here because I wrote this down as well,

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Speaker 1: here we go, and I'm quoting, I am quoting Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 1: Knowing Steve Kim. I guess there's a connection, Daniel Jeremiah Kim.

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Speaker 1: They have long known each other, probably from the personnel

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Speaker 1: circles back when. Okay, so he said, knowing Steve is

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Speaker 1: my phone leaves me searching once again. Here it is

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Speaker 1: there are certain players that I can see appealing to

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Speaker 1: Steve Kim just knowing him, like Davante Wyatt, the defensive

636
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: tackle out of Georgia. That's Daniel Jeremiah and what he

637
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: told Dave Pash why of course is the running mate

638
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: with Jordan Davis Trayvon Walker, that ridiculous defensive front by

639
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: Georgia all the way to the national title. But why

640
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: does the guy who's six three, three or four ran

641
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: the four seven seven forty. He's known as an every

642
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: down defensive lineman, which is something Jordan Davis is not

643
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: known because of his weight and maybe his motor. He's

644
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: described as disruptive and most of the scouts say he

645
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: has the quickest first step in the defensive line class

646
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two DeVante Wyatt and I'm just thinking follow

647
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: me here. If you want your two inside linebackers to

648
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: shine and keep offensive linemen off your inside linebackers so

649
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: they can make place and roam and hunt sideline to sideline,

650
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: then investing a first round pick and run stuffing dynamic,

651
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: disruptive defensive tackle is a pretty good plan to follow

652
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: up on the last two years in round one, the

653
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: part of the defense that if you're looking overall as

654
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: a whole from last season was the most inconsistent. Yes, well, yes,

655
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: and I would not have a problem taking an interior

656
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: defensive lineman early. Honestly, there are very few positions I

657
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: feel like wouldn't make much sense, and a good amount

658
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: of positions where if we're talking interior defensive lineman, we're

659
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: talking wide receiver, an edge, or even an interior offensive

660
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: line corner. Any of those two me makes sense. Do

661
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: some of them seem more blaring, right than an interior

662
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: defensive lineman at the moment, like an edge or a

663
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Yes, But when you look at it the

664
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Speaker 1: way you were describing how that affects your linebackers are

665
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: looking in the future, right, how much longer do you

666
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: have at the moment with JJ Water, you know, Zach Allen,

667
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: trying to think ahead a bit, I would like the

668
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: idea I've taken an interior defensive lineman at twenty third overall.

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00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: What do you think about that, Darren? Is that you know,

670
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: if offensive line is maybe under the radar, what about

671
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: defensive line in round one for the Arizona Cardinals. Again,

672
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in that first round pick hopefully

673
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: is going to be a difference maker for you wherever

674
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: he might be. And if that means at twenty three

675
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: you see a guy that you believe is going to

676
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: be a Zach Martin or Quintin Nelson, I would take

677
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: him if you think it's gonna be I would prefer

678
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: a three down defensive lineman. So if you think that

679
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: that's whyatt, I don't have any problem taking that because

680
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: that's that's a guy who's going to make a difference

681
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: for you. I thought it was interesting with Daniel Jeremiah

682
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: saying that he feels like the Cardinals could line up

683
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: today and play and they don't have a gun to

684
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: their heads in terms of having to take any one

685
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: particular position going into the draft. Now, I'm assuming he

686
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: means probably more so like in the first round. I mean,

687
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: I do think there are some spots that they need

688
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: to fill, that they probably need to address at some point,

689
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: but maybe you're not locked into that in the first round,

690
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: and I I'm on the fence on that. I mean, again,

691
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: to me, if there's a really good pass rusher there

692
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: in the first round of twenty three, I wouldn't mind

693
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: getting that, or a really good wide receiver. But again,

694
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: you have to be convinced, like I don't want to

695
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: see them taking a Cody Smith, who is a second

696
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: round pick in or not Cody Smith. Cody Brown, yes,

697
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: a second round pick in two thousand and nine, the

698
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl year because they desperately needed a pass rusher.

699
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: They forced the pick in the second round to take

700
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: the best pass rusher they could find, even though they

701
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: knew he wasn't good enough and he wasn't good enough.

702
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: And I don't I just don't want them. I don't

703
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,479
Speaker 1: want to see them doing that. That makes no sense

704
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: to me. And I do think, you know, in those days,

705
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: I think Steve Kim has learned in that regard to

706
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: not do something like that. So so if you went,

707
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: for example, edge in round one just to finish up

708
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: on receiver, then maybe you go after a sky More

709
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: out of Western Michigan in round two. If a Christian

710
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: Watson who's an up and comer and is rising on

711
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: a North Dakota's state great size six four six five,

712
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: maybe he's there. Or Alec Pierce Cincinnati, maybe that's your

713
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: round two selection. Is one of those guys who falls

714
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: to to fifty five. The question is will there be

715
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: a run on edge rushers before you get to twenty three.

716
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, he doubled down with Dave Pass that they

717
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: it goes twenty deep. There are any talented edge rushers

718
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: in this draft who are ready to make a difference

719
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: and be playmakers at the NFL level. Now what that

720
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: means exactly, But I'm guessing the Cardinals are going to

721
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: be looking at a collection of you know, boy Mafe

722
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: out of Minnesota, or maybe Arnold Eba Katie out of

723
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: Penn State. Nick Benito is a guy you know that

724
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: I've been all over. But it's not like it's it's

725
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: some sort of revelation. The scouts have known about this

726
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: guy for a while, but now he's starting to get

727
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: a lot of buzz. So what does that mean? You know,

728
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: if there's going to be a run on receivers, could

729
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: there usually be a run on edge rusher? Well, my

730
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: thought of you saying that is Cardinals seemed to be

731
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: in a good position. Those are two of the top

732
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: arguably three if you want to throw in maybe cornerback

733
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: positions of need for the Cardinals. So, whether it's a

734
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: run on wide receivers or edge rushers, the chance when

735
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: you sprinkle in some of those quarterbacks or other posit

736
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: right offensive linemen here and there seems like a good

737
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: chance whether it's an edge rusher or a wide receiver,

738
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: that a player the Cardinals like will be there. At

739
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 1: twenty three because if you're saying it's deep and wide

740
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: receiver and as pass rushers, those are both high needs

741
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. Well, it also to me speaks a

742
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: little bit to where the talented young, you know, young

743
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: athletes are going to play. They're going to play edge rusher,

744
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: they're going to play receiver, because that's what the NFL

745
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: needs these days. That's what the game's all about, pass

746
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: rush and the passing game. And so I would hope

747
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: that those would be stronger spots. And why there's fewer

748
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: guys playing the other positions, and Danny's right as she

749
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: chooses to make a rain over there, because they are

750
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: the money positions. The number of times it was funny,

751
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: I've gone to so many combines at this point, twenty

752
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: or twenty one or twenty two, whatever it is, and

753
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: you know, you get these players talking, and you know,

754
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: once upon a time, you know, you're talking to these

755
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: running backs and this happens, and that happens. And as

756
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: the time went on, and the number of running backs

757
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: that would come out and say, I really wish I

758
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: would have played a different position, And that's kind of

759
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: where you are. Some of this stuff and some of

760
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: these guys, you know. So getting back to the original point,

761
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I do think it doesn't mean everybody's going to be

762
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: a great edge rusher, but if you've got some talent,

763
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: that's where you're gonna find yourself. You're gonna find yourself

764
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: out in the edge, or you're gonna find yourself catching passes,

765
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: or you're gonna find yourself defending passes like or if

766
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: you've got a high ceiling in this coaching staff, lights

767
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: where you can go well, I mean, and again to me,

768
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't mind high ceilings, but you've got to be

769
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: real careful. I think there's been a couple of picks

770
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: that this team has made that it was about the ceiling,

771
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: and they never got there because it was about the ceiling.

772
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: And I do think you got to be smart about

773
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: taking a guy who you think can be productive even

774
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: if his ceiling isn't super high. I mean, I think

775
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons Cooper Cup was a third

776
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: round pick was because, Okay, his ceiling isn't super high,

777
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: but maybe he can be really good. Now, obviously he's

778
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: been better than everybody thought. But you know, I think

779
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: you got to you got to make sure that there's

780
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: some production there, and you've got to be very aware

781
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: of Okay, he does have all the measurables. But if

782
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: he's got all the measurables and it hasn't shown up

783
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: in games yet, why is that and is it really

784
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: going to change on this level? All right, I'll give

785
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: you a scenario. Here we go. John Metchi, receiver out

786
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: of Alabama. This is the kid who tours ACL in

787
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: the SEC title game. One game, Jamison Williams, who tores

788
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: ACL in the National Title game, got it? John Metchi

789
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: is more of a slot receiver. What did the Cardinals

790
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: just lose Christian Kirk? Right? Okay, the one thing that

791
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: we didn't see coming this offseason. All that guy got

792
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk money. Right, So as soon as Christian Kirk

793
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: got his money, the rest of the receiver world just

794
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: went bonkers. Stefan Digs, Davante Adams who also am I Missing,

795
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: and Entiree Hill obviously all got paid el grande. Okay, yes,

796
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: So if John Metchi, for example, with the torn ACL

797
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: is sitting there in round three and in rounds one

798
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: and two, you've gone offensive line an edge or edge

799
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: an offensive line receiver exactly. Then boom. You know, because

800
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: this is a guy that Daniel Jeremiah cited out of nowhere. Well,

801
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: our day pastor said, give me a guy under the

802
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: radar who you think is gonna be really good that

803
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: people aren't talking enough about. Rashad Johnson, Alabama broadcaster. We

804
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: asked him that same question. He mentioned John Mechi, clean

805
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: route runner, catches everything, tough, excellent play strength. You know

806
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna catch eighty balls every year over a ten

807
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: year career. As with Daniel Jeremiah said, so I could

808
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: see if they're gonna go a receiver, they could maybe

809
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: wait until round three for a guy like that. Why

810
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: I understand the conversation when you're talking about waiting for

811
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: round thee but I'm curious, as a Paul CALVISI, here

812
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: we go, Paul KALVISI, here we go, chocolate chip cookie eater.

813
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: Please don't say that you don't have one, do you?

814
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: Why Why would you be so against Dotson in the

815
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 1: first round, but you're willing to go with a slot

816
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: receiver in the third round. Well, first off, Metchi has

817
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: a reputation for being tough, like toughest nails that Dotson

818
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: doesn't quite have. But but it's I mean, we do

819
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: agree that getting a guy in round three is much

820
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: different than round one. Right, if you if you're already

821
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: able to get your Dotson is more like two pounds,

822
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's more like okay, But what are you

823
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: doing with Rondale More? Then if you believe Sean Jefferson,

824
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: who we had on the Big Red Rage and they're

825
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: moving them out, the field is built higher off. Wait

826
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: a minute on Rondale More being your number two outside receiver,

827
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: but hang on, hang on, you need receivers period. I mean,

828
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: you have de Hoop Rondale More, and you're right, a

829
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: guy whose first name is Jack and last name is squat.

830
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Why are you just disapproving of dots? And then I'm

831
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: just saying, if you can get a guy who's gonna

832
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: be who's gonna have a decade career in the NFL

833
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: sitting there in round three, then John Metchi could be

834
00:42:54,280 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: that guy. That's all I'm saying. That MCL when SEC

835
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: title games, So that'd have been November, early December, early December.

836
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: So how early is he even going to start workouts?

837
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: Not really sure. Just like Jamison Williams, I don't really

838
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: know he's gonna be on the PLoP like there's a

839
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: wait for training and Jamison Williams, I'd be willing to wait.

840
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: I'd have no problem they drafted Jamison Williams, I will wait,

841
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: and I think that that would be something they would consider.

842
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: I just think you you've got to You've got to

843
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: be absolutely sure that this guy the uh from the

844
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: other guy from Alabama, Michi John Mechi Uh Sorry, I

845
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, You've got to be absolutely sure that

846
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: he's going to be really because if you spend a

847
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: third round guy on a guy with a knee injury,

848
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: I mean, are you that this team has had a

849
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: lot of wash out receivers Unfortunately in the draft you

850
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you can afford another one. I'm just

851
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: sort of reverse engineering a scenario starting with round three.

852
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: Ben If round two you're gonna go with the edge rusher,

853
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: because once upon a time, I was thinking Nick Benito

854
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: in round two not gonna happen. He's not fallen to

855
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: fifty five based on what we're seeing and hearing. So now,

856
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, you know the owner of EBA, Katie

857
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: Boye Mafe, they probably won't be there either. So now

858
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: maybe you're looking at Drake Jackson at the USC, who's

859
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: more of a body type of Chandler Jones. Not quite

860
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: as tall, but he's sort of long and smooth. You know,

861
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: been a bit inconsistent over his USC career, but I'm

862
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: many different coaches, and you know, trauma and dysfunction as

863
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: USC had as a program, so you know, maybe that's

864
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: because of that. But here's the other guy. This is

865
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: where I'm driving. Here's the other guy. My new my

866
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: new round two update, desk edge Rusher. How about Josh

867
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: Pascal out of Kentucky. Have you've seen this guy? Six

868
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: three two seventy eight four seven seven forty only three

869
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: time full season captain in school history at Kentucky. Do

870
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals like to draft guys who are team captains?

871
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: They do? Okay, he was second team All SEC, academic,

872
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: All American led Kentucky, had a pretty solid season. Hello

873
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: Corey Peters, we see you over there. And he had

874
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: fifteen and a half tackles for lost, five and a

875
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: half sacks, and twelve starts And I know, yeah, I

876
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: get to the good party. He's described here as a

877
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: thicker ziggyanza, isn't This is the player who also be cancer. Yeah,

878
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: good night, sophomore junior year. Nice. If we're talking reality shows,

879
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: give her a big red rose over there, Danny Serek,

880
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: because yes, it was July of twenty eighteen. He was

881
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: diagnosed with malignant melanoma in his foot, the bottom's right foot.

882
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: Underwent multiple surgeries and a year of treatment, and when

883
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: they brought him back, like I said, he was a

884
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: three time team captain nineteen twenty and twenty one. And

885
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: the Kentucky coaches say, in addition to being a player,

886
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: this guy is all about building a culture because he's

887
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: all about football on and off the field, et cetera.

888
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: So I just I'm trying to think of a viable

889
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: Round two edge rusher that could be the guy that's

890
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: so you see him playing linebacker. They say he's an

891
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: edge guy. He's he's incredibly fierce in setting the edge.

892
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: And now he doesn't have that that he doesn't have

893
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: that burst athletically that would get him into the first

894
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: round as a pass rusher. Just seems a big boy

895
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: to be sitting there on the outside in this defense.

896
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: But maybe that's just me. Maybe, so that's just my

897
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: you know. Now, Melvin Ingram took a visit to the

898
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: Dolphins on the day we're recording this. So, is there

899
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: still a veteran pass rusher out there? Darren urban I

900
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: put it to you. Is there still a veteran pass

901
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: rusher who's going to be wearing a Cardinals uniform this year?

902
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: That's on the free market right now? Yes? Okay, cared

903
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: to name names. No, and it may end up being

904
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: somebody you've never heard of. But there'll be a veteran.

905
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: And that's a promise, just kidding. So it won't be

906
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: a big name, Melvin ingram I didn't say that it wouldn't.

907
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: I didn't say it would though. Okay, all right, I

908
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: ask you this question. But you don't think there'll be

909
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: a veteran. No, I think there will. They have to choice. Well, yeah,

910
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: you have lots of choices, and by the way, a

911
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: draft pick, I would still try and look for it.

912
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: That's what we're saying. But that doesn't mean they absolutely

913
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: have you said they don't have a choice to bring

914
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: in a veteran. We all have choices. By the way,

915
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: you're being belittled right now. Just like last week, I

916
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: was ridiculed by Darren urban And and I might have

917
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: to narrow that down a little bit as to exactly exactly.

918
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: Somebody in the mail bag was talking about how much

919
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: they loved our chemistry. Really oh wow, No translation that

920
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin anything we've built. No, they love,

921
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: they love. How Danny and Paul take a beat down

922
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: from Darren is what like? The latest last week was

923
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: Darren snarky aside that, oh, Paul is the first guy

924
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: in the history of the draft to say it's better

925
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: to go into the draft with multiple needs than fewer needs. Okay,

926
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: but you know, okay, I might have to own that one.

927
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: But but Daniel Jeremiah, Daniel Jeremiah himself said that because

928
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: there's no obvious tell right now with the Cardinals that

929
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: they could go anyone in these positions, because they haven't

930
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: signed a j Davian Clowney or a Julio Jones or

931
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: a Stephan Gilmore, they could still go receiver, edge, corner line.

932
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: So you know what, I feel vindicated, I really do.

933
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: Thank you. Ahead of us, you actually made the point

934
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: that they are in a better position to draft because

935
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: they don't have all these holes. I think he was

936
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: making the point that they don't really have a munch

937
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: of holes, but Okay, if you would like to, if

938
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: you would like to dovetail that together, I'm going to

939
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: give you that it still amounts to the same strategy.

940
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: You know, it really does. You just got there. You

941
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: just got there in a different way than than yours. Truly. Honestly, though,

942
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: between now and the draft, I don't unless the Cardinals

943
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: are going to fill multiple holes, I don't think it

944
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: really does them all that much. You know, good to

945
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: go after some of these guys are still out there,

946
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: unless all of a sudden, the price is right because

947
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: the agent for one of these veterans says, you know what,

948
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: we better signed before the draft, which is a possibility,

949
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: is plausible and feasible, There's no doubt about it. Otherwise,

950
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: I do think Januel Jeremiah is right that a lot

951
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: of teams looking at the Cardinals going, man, what are

952
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: they going to target? What are their priorities? And then again,

953
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: if you say to yourself, okay, you know what, we're

954
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: signing g Davian Clowning tomorrow. We're gonna Stephon Gilmour the

955
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: day after that, and you know what, Julio Jones come

956
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: on board. And now all of a sudden, you say,

957
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: all right, and then we're gonna use some draft capital

958
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: and we're going on after one guy who's our guy

959
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: in round one, or we're moving on up from twenty

960
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: three to fourteen to get said guy. I could see

961
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: that strategy as well. Perhaps if if you're saying, you

962
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: know what, we do have that urgency because the super

963
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: Bowl is in our building this year and we are

964
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: all in on this year, this roster, and so all

965
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden, in a flurry, when the prices come

966
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: down right before the draft, you go after the free

967
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: agents and then you get that one big guy in

968
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: Day one or day two of the draft, and maybe

969
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: you except draft capitals. Is this a prediction? And maybe

970
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: if you and maybe because these things come in threes.

971
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: That's the first two parts of my prediction. And maybe

972
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: in line with that, there's also a contract extension for

973
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: a certain quarterback that's for the draft down the data

974
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: this podcast. So whereas we've all been patient this offseason,

975
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: maybe in a flouria moves in the week or so

976
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, all of a sudden, things

977
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: Darren doesn't leave his laptop for ninety six straight hours.

978
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: That's my prediction. The extension sounds reason maybe not before

979
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: the draft, but later on. That sounds reasonable to me.

980
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: I guess my question to you is, you guys have

981
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: obviously been around this organization, this front office, more so

982
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: than I have much as My question is, do you

983
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: see this as a staff that's going to either adjust

984
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: the philosophy or they're in density throughout this process because

985
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: they're hosting the Super Bowl And by the way, Danny's

986
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: adjusting on the fly, she's ignoring all references to the

987
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys just proceeding it was really well done. It's really

988
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: well done. Yeah, yeah, she was not drawn off sides

989
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: by your hard snap count. Do I think that? No, See,

990
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: I don't either. I mean, ultimately, um, I mean, I

991
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: think they're trying to win and it doesn't matter where

992
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: the super Bowl is going to be. I mean, I

993
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: think that's where it comes down to it. Maybe, you know,

994
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: I feel a little more excitement and that I feel

995
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: like Paul could clip that little sound bike that he

996
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: just made of those predictions, and if he put it

997
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: on Twitter, he would get a lot of likes because

998
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff that I think a lot

999
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: of people would love to hear. I just don't know

1000
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: if it's going to happen. Are you accusing me of

1001
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: being PAULI pandering? Is that what you're saying over there?

1002
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Is that the accusation over there? By the way, I'll

1003
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: just throw this out there that if there is a

1004
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: contract extension for a certain quarterback, I'm guessing that that

1005
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: number begins with it too two some, and that maybe

1006
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: it ends up around all the same average annual value

1007
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: as a Dak Prescott. You're going on a limon saying that,

1008
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers and who's the other one, Matthew Stafford,

1009
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: who are all right at forty million per year. That's

1010
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: just a gut feel gonna throw that out there. We'll see,

1011
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: we'll rewind this in a couple of weeks and see

1012
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: what happens. Why do you think that's a big time prediction.

1013
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's Isn't that a given? That's good? That's good.

1014
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that's a given if and

1015
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: when he gets that extension. Yeah, I mean his at

1016
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: this rage is not going to agree to something less

1017
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: than market value. Although wait a minute, Matthew Stafford does

1018
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: have a Super Bowl Aaron Rodgers does have four count

1019
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: of four. He flashed a four at the Phoenix open

1020
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: before he even got four four MVPs. And so I'm

1021
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: just saying the resumes and has none of those things.

1022
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: That's true, but he has an employer who was utterly

1023
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: desperate and or deranged. Maybe in hindsight that it is

1024
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: interesting that the NFLPA made an official the day of

1025
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: this taping, made an official push publicly to for players

1026
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: to try and essentially leverage themselves and get guaranteed contracts

1027
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: going forward. Yeah, funny how that happens. Yeah, Well, once again,

1028
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: are you guys now in agreeing with my prediction going

1029
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: into the NFL owners meetings that had thirty one owners

1030
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: wanted to do to Jimmy Haslum what Will Smith did

1031
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: to Chris Rock? Right? I mean, and now now you're

1032
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: seed evidence of what I was talking about. Then it's

1033
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: coming to fruition. Now, come on, I mean, I don't

1034
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: disagree with you there. So, by the way, do you

1035
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: guys like the draft? Do you like this time of year?

1036
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: And why you think about that? I'm just gonna work

1037
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 1: this in or a friendly reminder to everyone that it's

1038
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: Draft weekend. Country Concert all Right, presented by Seat Geek

1039
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1040
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: April thirtieth on the Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium.

1041
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: That's Saturday April thirtieth. That's Draft weekend, the Draft weekend

1042
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1043
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1044
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: bar a big, big weekend at State Farm Stadium and

1045
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: out on the Great Lawn, both the Draft and the

1046
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: country concert. You like this time of year, by the way,

1047
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: because you guys put in a lot of hours over

1048
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: a lot of days, including weekends, for the draft. So

1049
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: Danny are you are you on board with this? Tis

1050
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: the season? I love the Draft. I think it's so

1051
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: exciting the way that all the all the lead up, right,

1052
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: You've got the Senior Bowl, in the Combine and Pro

1053
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: Days and all this stuff leading up to the draft,

1054
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: and how teams are evaluating these players and how they're

1055
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: thinking they're going to make a difference on their team,

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00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: and how they're looking in the future, and just the

1057
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: excitement of these players who have worked their whole lives

1058
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: and they're getting rewarded with that and the chance to

1059
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: play in the NFL with the best of the best.

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00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a really exciting time. I think personally,

1061
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: like what we will be doing, it's a rush. It's

1062
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: it's a long rush. It's a long weekend for us

1063
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: and working and covering all that and so of course articles,

1064
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: shows all everything, podcasts, all that stuff on easy Cardinals

1065
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: dot com and that to me personally, it's exciting too.

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00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: Just it's it's a long weekend, but it's a lot

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00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: of fun covering that and seeing where players end up.

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00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: See for me, I'm I don't know why about I mean,

1069
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: the thing about the draft is you're talking about so

1070
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: much stuff that probably is never going to come to fruition,

1071
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: And absolutely that's kind of me. It's it's home. Darren

1072
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: doesn't Cardinals VP and meter relations Mark Dolan doesn't he

1073
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: track the accuracy as some of these mock drafts. He hasn't.

1074
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: He found historically that even the top guys, the big

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00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: names do the mock drafts maybe get two two picks

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00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: correct every year, a little bit better than that, but

1077
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: it's not much more than five or six, and they're

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00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: all usually pretty high. And it just I don't know. Again,

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00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: I the thing about mock drafts is just like, for

1080
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: what I do for a living, I write about this team.

1081
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: If the Cardinals drafted player, I'm gonna write the hell

1082
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: out of that guy by the time he gets there.

1083
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: And if they don't draft him, nobody cares. So are

1084
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: we talking specifically about mock drafts. I thought we were

1085
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: talking about the draft. We are talking about the draft.

1086
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: This is why next ye year I'm giving up mock

1087
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: drafts for lent. Once again, we're coming full circle. Like,

1088
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: for instance, we talked a bunch about Burkes today, right, yeah,

1089
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: we talked a significant amount about Burke. Oh yeah. If

1090
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: they don't take them, it just right feels kind of

1091
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: like wasted breath. In general, though, this the draft too,

1092
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it lends itself to a lot of speculation.

1093
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. Then the new season has already

1094
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: obviously started with all of this going on, but this

1095
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: is kind of the big hump to get over, and

1096
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you know what, no more speculation, no

1097
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: more looking all that We've we've got a good chunk

1098
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: of the team now, like let's get rolling, right. You

1099
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: got rookie manning camp, you got OTA's coming up, and

1100
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: you know you blink in its training camp. You know what. Also,

1101
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: I haven't even gone on vacation yet. You're already trying

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00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: to blink us to a training camp Florida two weeks ago. Darren. See,

1103
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: he's not using the three letter F work fun. When

1104
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: it comes to draft time tis the season. He's just

1105
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: not Danny. That's say you had another difference the draft party.

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00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see how it goes. Last time I

1107
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: did one of these, So last time I did one

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00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: of these was twenty nineteen. It was Kyler Murray and

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00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: the special guest up on stage was Jake Plumber and

1110
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: Frank Sanders, and I made the mistake of going into

1111
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: my future of football. You know, he's got the arm

1112
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: and the legs. And then Jake Plumber didn't like that

1113
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: because he said, wait a minute, I was a future

1114
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: of football in nineteen ninety eight. What are you talking about?

1115
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: Because he had the arm and the legs, Jake the snake,

1116
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I personally offended Jake ten seconds into

1117
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: my opening a segment there up there on stage. So yeah,

1118
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: that was no Jake. Jake was good with that. He

1119
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: was giving me a hard time up there. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I am reminded this time a year though, how these

1121
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: top draft picks. I mean, you talk about NonStop and

1122
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: when you look back and we're gonna get into December,

1123
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a number of these rookies who

1124
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: hit that proverbial rookie wallah. Think about it. Their college

1125
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: season ends, they immediately go into training for the Combine.

1126
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: Then it's the Combine and all the stress. And you

1127
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: guys know that a lot better than me. You've attended

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00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: these things for many years. And then after that it

1129
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: tis the season to do all the visits. Whether a

1130
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: lot of those guys then have their pro Day, then

1131
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: they have individual workouts, and then they have the visits

1132
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: because every team can bring in thirty, right thirty, and

1133
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: so these guys are no stop jet setting around the

1134
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: country up until April twenty eighth and so, and then

1135
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're drafted. It's a whirlwind. They

1136
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: come in and now they've got to find a place

1137
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: to live and the whole thing. And they do the

1138
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: rookie mining camps and then they get some time off

1139
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: in July and boom, it's go time. And so, honestly,

1140
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm reminded of why a lot of these rookies hit

1141
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: that wall come November and December because they have had

1142
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: virtually no downtime since the end of their college careers.

1143
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: A full year. Yeah, you know, and that's why a

1144
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: lot of those guys take the step from year one

1145
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: to year two. Not only do they have the experience,

1146
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: but now they can regroup in their first full offseason.

1147
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: They going around two or a year two and then

1148
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: boom they explode onto the scene and that's when you

1149
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: see them at their best. Now, I will say, speaking

1150
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: of like rookie mini camps and these guys coming in,

1151
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: I will say that, you know, having been downstairs a

1152
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: couple of times now and do tell you know, just

1153
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: being able to walk into a locker room that doesn't

1154
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: have a bunch of plexiglass everywhere to protect players and

1155
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: have a bunch of the extra lockers taken out of there,

1156
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: so it actually looks like the locker room that we

1157
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: remember in twenty nineteen and and there's going to be

1158
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: there should be an offseason Fingers crossed. I don't know.

1159
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: Watching the news, I'm starting to wonder a little bit

1160
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: about where we are going to be by the time

1161
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: we get to training camp, you know where we should

1162
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: have you know, a normal offseason, you know, again again

1163
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: depending on how many people show up and voluntarily how

1164
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: many veterans want to be here. But we'll see a

1165
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: lot of the rookies and it's just it is going

1166
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: to be when you talk about an offseason, Paul, just overall,

1167
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be fascinating to watch a kind of

1168
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: play out to like do we get back to the

1169
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: levels and the vibe that we had pre COVID because

1170
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: it's been a couple of interesting offseasons. By the way,

1171
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: no one's going to Vegas for the draft, are they?

1172
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: All The coverage is going to be done here from

1173
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: Cardinals HQ right the Dignity Health Training Center. I believe

1174
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: we're going to have a potential camera there in case

1175
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: our pick is there, but no, nobody, everybody else is

1176
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 1: going to be doing our coverage that first night. You'll

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01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: be at State Farm Stadium here, Darren writing, I'll be

1178
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: hosting a show with Craig Greelou So we'll be here

1179
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: as we all, having some guests on and all that

1180
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: before the pick. So lots of coverage, but locally, let

1181
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: just throw that out there because I find it interesting.

1182
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if the sports book had done this

1183
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: in the past. Maybe in Vegas they have. But they

1184
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: had hundreds of player prop bets on the NFL draft,

1185
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: which I was not aware of previously, Like what are

1186
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: the fun ones? So you can find bets ranging from

1187
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: how many players from each position group will be drafted,

1188
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: okay in the first I don't know the full draft.

1189
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: Well there, I think first round mainly. For example, the

1190
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: over under this year on receivers in the first round

1191
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 1: five and a half because two years ago six went.

1192
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: Last year five went the all time record seven. As

1193
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: we mentioned seven receivers in the first round. That's the

1194
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 1: year Larry was the first receiver, taking two thousand and four.

1195
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: So you know that's one that's out there. The overunder

1196
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: of individual players, overall draft number. So you can take

1197
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: Treylon Burkes and you can bet the overunder on what

1198
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: his draft position will be. I mean, it's pretty crazy,

1199
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: all the different option now. I do not have that

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01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: in front of me, Thank you for asking and a half.

1201
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't know which player will be drafted first at

1202
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: their respective position. So if you're thinking, okay, quarterback, is

1203
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett going to be the first quarterback is Malik

1204
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: willis going to be the first quarterback and then there

1205
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: are odds associated with that. So that's uh, that's interesting.

1206
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: I've often thought that Paul was going to get very

1207
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: deep into the hole, you know. I find that uh intriguing,

1208
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: just you know, and you know that whole thing. By

1209
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: the way, as we as advertised earlier, apparently Missoo Danny

1210
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: does have a national championship to their credit. According to

1211
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: our Jim Almahundro, thank you applause for me please, Saint

1212
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: Louis native Um, the Missoo disc golf team, that's right,

1213
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: one a national chair. You're aware of this, I am almost.

1214
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I follow Missoo's disc golf team closely,

1215
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: but Almo did send me a text over the weekend

1216
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: to make sure I celebrated accordingly. That's right. The lie

1217
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: detector just went off. So it was the twenty twenty

1218
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: two college disc Golf Men's Division one national champions your

1219
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: Missouri Tigers. A twenty twenty two sweep for the Diggers

1220
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: in college disc golf, which I'm not even sure. I mean,

1221
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: that's what the Frisbee rights is, That's what we're for

1222
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: disc called the disc okay, but are you number one

1223
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: in innovation? I don't think so. How are you feeling,

1224
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: by the way, they just had the spring game as

1225
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: U spring game? Are you feeling over there as a

1226
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: Sun double alum? You know the saying if you have

1227
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, you don't have one? What happens if you

1228
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 1: have five quarterbacks? Do you have one? That's my question

1229
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: to ASU fans. I think, um, I think it's going

1230
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: to be a long season even Actually my goal is

1231
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: fagg to an ASU football game. Make sure it cools

1232
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: down before you do that. By the way, w you

1233
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: ever get an answer to which member of the front

1234
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: office you would take as your partner and survivor? Do

1235
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: we ever get a partners? That would be like Amazing Race,

1236
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: which I don't watch, but that would be right. Really,

1237
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: you're really offended by my gaff about the show there

1238
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: are you don't go in with partners, don't okay? Going

1239
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: individually and they put you on teams and then you

1240
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: have to go far enough to make the merge where

1241
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: you you just gotta watch. Paul, you send the office

1242
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: with myself and Sam, one of our editors, and we

1243
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: both watch. So if you watch, you can start talking

1244
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: with us when we recap. I'm surprised you just didn't

1245
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: pick it up like through osmosis if they're talking about it. Yeah,

1246
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,479
Speaker 1: it's hard to decipher what's reality and what's reality TV.

1247
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: And you know I do sometimes it is so and

1248
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, and then I hesitate to get involved because

1249
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,959
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to ask the for really

1250
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: dumb questions. Are no dumb questions right right exactly, just

1251
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: just your reaction when I ask the dumb question, that's

1252
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: just so well from here or not, I will not react,

1253
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: no dumb questions. Okay, all right? So are we getting

1254
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: near where you're gonna actually gonna hazard a guess as

1255
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: to who the Arizona Cardinals are going to take in

1256
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: the first round. I mean, Darren, you've been really you know,

1257
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: you've been quick to shoot down every single name I've

1258
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: thrown out there, But I haven't heard you actually go

1259
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: out on a limb with the name at all, going

1260
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: on a limb. See, that's the thing, is, like, why

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Speaker 1: would I go out on a limb? They're picking twenty three?

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Speaker 1: Who the hell know is going to be there at

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Speaker 1: twenty three? I've said what I mean, I don't I

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to completely rule out a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: but that just seems not something that Steve Kim does.

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Speaker 1: So I just feel like, I feel like that's kind

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Speaker 1: of hard for me to really wrap my head around.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it's going to be a lineman or

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Speaker 1: an edge rusher and and maybe a cornerback. But I

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Speaker 1: that's that. And again, I could be completely wrong and

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Speaker 1: they could be walking in with a wide receiver or

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Speaker 1: that first round pick. And I'll be the first person

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Speaker 1: in the podcast to say, well, obviously I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the hell I'm talking about. Yeah, but I will

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Speaker 1: say that if I'm also the first to say that

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Speaker 1: you guys don't know what the hell you're talking about either,

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Speaker 1: So what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Speaker 1: I don't I've never heard that. Oh come on, it's

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Speaker 1: are you being serious right now? Oh my god, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Did I offend you? No, you didn't have me. I

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Speaker 1: just made me feel old. I'm sorry. That was not

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Speaker 1: my intention. Yeah, sure, you know what, I'm purposely letting

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Speaker 1: Darren just just bask and just let that exactly. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's had the facial it's been a long time I

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Speaker 1: need chocolate chip cookie. Yeah. Oh, now that's well, that's

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Speaker 1: what I get here, and uh, you know, I might

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Speaker 1: have to go. I made it within three days. Wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: wait four days. I'm gonna ask this question before we

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Speaker 1: lose this. When you first were talking about this, did

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Speaker 1: you give up chocolate chip cookies period or just for breakfast?

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Speaker 1: No period? Typically for breakfast, no period, but typically the

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Speaker 1: time frame within which I eat it is breakfast. Two reasons.

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Speaker 1: One it goes great with coffee, and two I can

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Speaker 1: burn it off the rest of the day. There's a

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Speaker 1: big difference for eating that cookie to start the day

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Speaker 1: or before you go to bed. You're gonna pay for

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Speaker 1: the one before bed. Are these homemade or are these

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Speaker 1: store bought? Oh? I wish they were homemade, but no,

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Speaker 1: they're not. All right, Paul, I got it for next year. Okay?

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Speaker 1: For lent? You need to give up lent. Wow, that's heavy.

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Speaker 1: That's really heavy. That's going to clean up a lot

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Speaker 1: of your issues. That's good. That's good. Well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: cite to you in my next confession not only forgive

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Speaker 1: me father, for I have sinned, but so is Darren Irban.

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Speaker 1: On this edition a Cardinals unders brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Pacific Office Automation. Sounds like somebody needs to go to

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Speaker 1: confession more than others.