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Speaker 4: which also Rob G leads us to a larger conversation.

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Speaker 4: The Nuggets have been a weird team this season and

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Speaker 4: that they're right there. People still have their hopes on

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Speaker 4: them because the Joker how great he is, but they

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Speaker 4: haven't looked great and they haven't really taken that leap,

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Speaker 4: meaning you know right there, one seed two. See, they're

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Speaker 4: kind of just third, fourth, fifth, sixth.

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Speaker 2: They're not third. They're not third because the Lakers are third.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I'm I'm sorry, Roger, that's right.

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Speaker 4: The Lakers are third, so they're not like Lakers are third,

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Speaker 4: four or five, six, somewhere in that area, and a

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Speaker 2: But uh, but ROGGI.

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Speaker 4: People have a lot of faith in the Nuggets in

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Speaker 4: the postseason because of Joker and how great he's been.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's pretty much the only reason why people have

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Speaker 5: Nuggets season, a lot of it because they injury, but

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Speaker 5: they just haven't looked like a team that would really

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Speaker 5: the wrong times. Only I think this week is they

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Speaker 5: He's having double digit turnover games against the Bulls for

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Speaker 5: no reason. Like it's it's been uneven for Denver, but

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Speaker 5: because they have Nikola Jokic and because he is widely

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Speaker 2: Didn't know where you were going with that. Yeah, And.

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Speaker 5: Even still our fearless leader here, Kelvin Washington, doesn't share

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Speaker 2: This is my thing.

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Speaker 4: Ah, Now I'm gonna be projected a little bit because

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Speaker 4: Now we all know Joker has been, as Robgi has said,

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Speaker 2: Tell me if you've heard the same thing, Ephim.

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Speaker 4: They're starting to put him ahead of Dirk, put him

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen a passing big Man Bill Walton was

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Speaker 4: these guys have been one or two best player multiple MVPs,

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Speaker 4: what do they like to do about your Lakers? And

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Speaker 4: that they always make fun of that twenty twenty uh ring,

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Speaker 2: take all of that sarcasm at your voice, Bro, I'm

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Speaker 2: with you, but that's what people say. Am I crazy? No,

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Speaker 2: that's probably the hardest ring to win. Well. People.

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Speaker 4: I have said the same thing, people away from their

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Speaker 4: We don't know if people are dying, are gonna die, whatnot?

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Speaker 2: And we needed those games for us out here sanity,

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Speaker 4: But I bring that up, Ephim because they lost to

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Speaker 4: one to four, basically a gentleman sweet so get gentlemen

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 4: He's not regularly in the finals. He's not regularly in

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Speaker 4: When you start to look at the list of guys

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Speaker 4: you got Kaream won six. We know he's stayed. We

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Speaker 4: Let's move on, Bill Russell, let's for sure move on.

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Speaker 4: Who had five MVPs. And you got Lebron who's got

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Speaker 4: my point, Like, if you're that guy four MVPs?

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Speaker 2: Am I crazy from?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 2: Love who you watch? Who? Am I crazy for wanting

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Speaker 4: Times should have been, as you said, at four time MVP,

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Speaker 4: but are currently at three time MVP. To not live

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Speaker 4: in the Western Conference finals, no, it should not be

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Speaker 2: To not have be in the mix right now.

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Speaker 4: It's Thunder, it's Spurs, it's you know, out of Celtic's

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Speaker 4: gonna do it again. And that's all I'm saying for

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Speaker 4: where we vault him. I'm not the talent is crazy,

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Speaker 4: the accolades are crazy, but people are jumping him ahead

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Speaker 4: of so many people. And I'm just looking at history

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Speaker 2: We saw what happened with the Bucks and Giannis, and

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Speaker 2: collective Bargaining Agreement, you can't do that. You can't keep

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Speaker 2: be successful while they're young in learning and Denver wasn't

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Speaker 2: the Kolokic, right, because he's been such a superior athlete

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Speaker 2: his team lazy. He makes he leads his team in points, assists, rebounds, blocks, everything, steals.

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Speaker 2: He leads his team in every category. So yeah, there

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Speaker 2: his team, you know, they get a little lazy, get

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Speaker 8: back in the day. And it's just I mean, we

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Speaker 8: had the one guy scoring eighty points the other day.

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Speaker 8: Forty points of those were free throws. I'm not taking

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Speaker 8: anything away from him. He got it's his and the

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Speaker 8: same with the MVPs. I'm not taking away the MVPs.

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Speaker 8: He's a great player. He'll be remember it as a

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Speaker 8: great player. But to be one of the greats, that's

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Speaker 8: kind of what Calvin was saying. If you want to

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Speaker 8: be one of the greats, you gotta win. That's all

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Speaker 8: that really matters on the paper is how many w's

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Speaker 8: do you have at the end of how many championship

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Speaker 8: brings you guy the end, That's what really matters.

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Speaker 4: And that's all And that's from just All was saying

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Speaker 4: where we're starting to place him.

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Speaker 2: I got you what I'm saying. Yeah, that's all I

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Speaker 2: was saying. I got you, no doubt and that you

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Speaker 2: guys do make a good point. I was just really

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Speaker 2: thinking about just overall skill and what his ability to

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Speaker 2: control the games. But yes, to your point you and Marshall, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, appreciate it. Hey Marshall, thanks for the call.

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Speaker 4: moves on Vson as well, Jonathan Man, appreciate you joining.

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Speaker 4: What's what's going on so much?

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Speaker 2: Guys?

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Speaker 9: Good NBA card today, So taking some of that in.

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Speaker 9: We'd sixteen back tomorrow. Baseball's back, So it's a good

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Speaker 9: time to be a sports.

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Speaker 4: Then, no doubt about that. Let's start real quick, you

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Speaker 4: know what. Actually I'm a start here real quick before

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Speaker 4: we gets a tournament. Since you mentioned opening night for MLB,

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Speaker 4: where are the Yankees at? Where is everybody putt the

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Speaker 4: money on the Yankees there? Of course, just kind of

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Speaker 4: perennial favorites, if you will, with Aaron Judge and so on.

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Speaker 4: Where are people expecting them to do this year?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, pretty much exactly what you're talking about, right, contender

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Speaker 9: in the American League, favored up there to do so

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Speaker 9: and win the American League. Pennant expectation is just that

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Speaker 9: favorite to win the AL East as well, that's a

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Speaker 9: team that the better market and a lot of people

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Speaker 9: just always expect to be there to the top. Interesting start,

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Speaker 9: I mean to the season, not the game, but the

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Speaker 9: way their rotation looks. With Cole starting on the IL,

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Speaker 9: what's going to look like wes Hel going out and

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Speaker 9: getting option.

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Speaker 7: But I think.

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Speaker 9: Ultimately they're going to be fine and be pretty good.

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Speaker 9: So the expectation is there going to be right there

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Speaker 9: at the end. We'll see if that actually happens. But

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Speaker 9: rightfully so, the offense is great, the bullpen is deep

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Speaker 9: in the rotation when it's healthy and ready, is going

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Speaker 9: to be among the better ones in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 9: But I think there's a couple of teams that could

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Speaker 9: probably get him in the American League, maybe even though

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Speaker 9: in their own divisions.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll not talking about baseball. It's been one game.

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Speaker 2: Were talking about de Spleet sixteen, all right, y'all would

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Speaker 2: have been the whole first part of a second. I'll

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Speaker 2: just say that's so I care about all that right now? Man,

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Speaker 2: we talk about the brackets. Where the money at in

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Speaker 2: the brackets in the sweet sixteen? What we got? Where

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Speaker 2: is all the money? And who's the favorite to come

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Speaker 2: out of this team.

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Speaker 9: Well, so I'll go give you a couple of sides

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Speaker 9: that are getting to be pretty popular at this point

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Speaker 9: right now. Obviously, whenever you pull off a pretty big upset,

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Speaker 9: you're going to get a lot of attention. Iowa got

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Speaker 9: a lot of attention when those numbers first got put

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Speaker 9: up against the Brasket, open up as a three point spread,

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Speaker 9: got immediately cut down to one and a half. So

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Speaker 9: there is some support for the Hawkeyes to maybe pull

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Speaker 9: this off again to a much lesser degree. Obviously, they're

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Speaker 9: a ten point underdog to Florida when they beat him

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Speaker 9: over the weekend. I think the Brasket might be geting

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Speaker 9: a little disrespected though. I mean, they're a good defensive team,

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Speaker 9: they're a little undervalued on that end. But Iowa is

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Speaker 9: a very popular wager as is, and there's a couple

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Speaker 9: of them here. But Arkansas against Arizona. A lot of

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Speaker 9: people don't think that Tommy Lloyd can do this. I

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Speaker 9: hear a lot of Tommy Lloyd. He's thinks he's not

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Speaker 9: a good coach. He's gonna flame out here in the

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Speaker 9: Sweet sixteen. I tend to think the opposite. I'm very

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Speaker 9: curious how the demure Darius A. Cuff who was very

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Speaker 9: very good but very small, and is going to match

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Speaker 9: up with a very big backcourt defensively, how he's going

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Speaker 9: to look and also how he's going to defend because

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Speaker 9: Braden Berry's is a big kid man and he's going

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Speaker 9: to be able to go after almost every single possession.

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Speaker 9: So that's gonna be a ton of fun to watch.

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Speaker 9: But those are two of the popular ones that are

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Speaker 9: sitting out there right now. But as far as the

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Speaker 9: favorite is concerned to the big picture, Duke's still at

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Speaker 9: the top there to win this whole thing, just barely

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Speaker 9: the favorite at some spots to win the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, let me before you go, kil let me just

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Speaker 2: follow up on this. When you say Duke is the favorite,

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Speaker 2: now you I'm sure you watched their first two rounds, right,

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Speaker 2: hey look great? They did not look great? Right? It

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Speaker 2: took you know, Sianna was really they had an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to really win that game. I knew exactly when the

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Speaker 2: game changed when they missed two dunks back to back

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Speaker 2: and they were up by eleven at that point, and

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Speaker 2: then Duke kind of came down hit at three, got

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Speaker 2: to stop hitting another three changed the whole game. Are

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Speaker 2: you confident that Duke can take this thing the whole

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Speaker 2: way given how they've looked in the first two rounds,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 9: Think I would say confident. No, he's like you guys

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Speaker 9: are said. I mean, Sianna shot the ball really well

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Speaker 9: in that first half, really fell off. They only played

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Speaker 9: five guys too, which was ridiculous, and they got a

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Speaker 9: little lucky there, Duke did, and then they looked a

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Speaker 9: lot better in the second half against TCU. But we

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Speaker 9: know about the beat up nature of their backcourt and

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Speaker 9: the fact that they get they just get their big

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Speaker 9: guy back, and so maybe you got to work some

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Speaker 9: things out. But I do think there are still some

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Speaker 9: of that team that terrorized the ACC. I mean, look,

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Speaker 9: the ACC didn't really look good in the NCAA tournament

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Speaker 9: up to this point, but Duke was beating the tar

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Speaker 9: at every single one of those teams heading into the

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Speaker 9: NCAA tournament. So I still think that is in there.

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Speaker 9: And you know, we're opened up with some of these

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Speaker 9: popular teams. Saint John's is another one. You know, there's

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Speaker 9: a lot of support for Saint John's out there, and

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Speaker 9: yet and this is something that a lot of people

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Speaker 9: will point to, despite the fact that Saint John's is

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Speaker 9: getting bet by some folks in terms of Ticke account

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Speaker 9: the numbers moving in favor of Duke to get to

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Speaker 9: that like seven point range, and that would kind of

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Speaker 9: tell you that maybe there's some respect to money behind

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Speaker 9: the Duke Blue Devils here in this round against Saint John's.

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Speaker 9: So I think that, like for me personally, Arizona was

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Speaker 9: my national champion before this all started, I think the

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Speaker 9: world of that team. I think Michigan, when they're on

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Speaker 9: and not turn the ball over, is probably gonna be

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Speaker 9: able to get Duke as well. But I do think

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Speaker 9: that I wouldn't be surprised if they still carve their

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Speaker 9: way out to maybe like a Final four or obviously

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Speaker 9: an Elite eight if they beat Saint John's this week

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Speaker 9: excuse me, be a tomorrow or That'smorrow Friday.

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Speaker 2: Either way here Friday Friday.

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Speaker 9: So I wouldn't be surprised if we're watching them over

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Speaker 9: the weekend. But I don't think that they would be

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Speaker 9: the ones that are ultimately cutting down the net.

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Speaker 4: Snow here's Jonathan von Tobel joining us right now, VSA

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Speaker 4: senior basketball analyst, host of Money moves on Vson as well.

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Speaker 4: Let me go here, and you just mentioned somebody has

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Speaker 4: nothing to do Jonathan, Absolutely nothing to do with the

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Speaker 4: fact that I'm born and raised in anarbur Michigan. Nothing

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Speaker 4: to do with let's go to Michigan since you brought

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Speaker 4: him up bang it. First of all, this lis more

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Speaker 4: like a football game. Alabama Michigan. That'd be a great

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Speaker 4: football game.

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Speaker 2: But here it is.

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Speaker 4: We've got hoops Michigan. How are they able to rebound?

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Speaker 4: Juwan Howard situation didn't end well, But here they are

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Speaker 4: again where they got a chance to know they are

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Speaker 4: a number one seed to get back in the final

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Speaker 4: four and ultimately maybe a national championship game. And where

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Speaker 4: they look with a bunch of guys from different places

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Speaker 4: and playing well this season.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean on the odds board, they're depending on

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Speaker 9: where you look, and there's and when I say Duke's

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Speaker 9: the favorite two, there's like sense of difference, right plus

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Speaker 9: three seventy plus three eighty, So there's a minute difference

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Speaker 9: between these teams. Michigan's right up there with them as well.

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Speaker 9: And I'm very fascinated about this. This is actually to

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Speaker 9: your point about football. It's a Rose Bowl rematch they

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Speaker 9: played two years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was there. I was there here in La Yeah,

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Speaker 4: of course.

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Speaker 9: So hopefully it's as fun. But I would say that

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Speaker 9: I'm going to be really curious because obviously Alabama's coming

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Speaker 9: off of that absolute just annihilation of Texas Tech where

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Speaker 9: they shot the lights out from beyond the arc. But

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Speaker 9: I feel like this is a matchup that maybe sneakily

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Speaker 9: Michigan can scuffle with a little bit. One of their

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Speaker 9: biggest weaknesses on offense is the fact that they can

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Speaker 9: and have a pension to turn the ball over at

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Speaker 9: a really high rate. You know, they're in the mid

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Speaker 9: one sixties in terms of offensive turnover right, they were

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Speaker 9: in the bottom half of offensive turnover rate in Big

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Speaker 9: Ten play. It was the thing that kind of plagued

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Speaker 9: them when they looked their worst. And still, of course

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Speaker 9: we know how good they are, and if you're gonna

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Speaker 9: give free opportunities to a team like Alabama who likes

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Speaker 9: to get out and run and get in transition and

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Speaker 9: get some of those opportunities from beyond the arc in

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Speaker 9: those situations, at least when you look at the number

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Speaker 9: when they're laying like ten points, nine and a half points,

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Speaker 9: I could see a scenario which Alabama stays inside of

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Speaker 9: that number, but in a really high scoring game, because

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Speaker 9: I don't think Alabama is stopping Michigan. Their offense is

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Speaker 9: absolutely incredible. Outside of the turnovers, they're highly efficient. They

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Speaker 9: can match tempo if they want to as well. Would

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Speaker 9: you guys be surprised at all if we were talking

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Speaker 9: about a final score that was like ninety five to eighty.

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Speaker 2: Seven, no crazy scoring affair.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so I think that we're going to see something

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Speaker 9: like that.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about a real team in Michigan. Michigan State, boy,

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Speaker 2: I know you six and twelve, that's not the point.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: Is this the year Yukon, you know, captures what they

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Speaker 2: had a couple of years ago back to championship. Can

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Speaker 2: they deal with the athleticism of a Michigan State, because

651
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Speaker 2: what I do know is Michigan State. Those guys going

652
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Speaker 2: to attack the room goodness graces. Can Yukon stand up

653
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Speaker 2: to their athleticism and their defensive prowess?

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Speaker 9: I don't think so. I like, I haven't really liked

655
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 9: this Yukon team a ton. You go back to the

656
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 9: first round where they don't cover against Furman. They were

657
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 9: twenty one point favorites never even came close to covering

658
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 9: that number against the Little Old Paladins, And from a

659
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Speaker 9: betting standpoint, Yukon has actually been one of the worst

660
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Speaker 9: bet on teams in the country. They've been awful against

661
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Speaker 9: the spread, and of course they were the I think

662
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 9: the second or third worst team against the number in

663
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Speaker 9: the entire field heading into this thing. The betting market's

664
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Speaker 9: been too high on where Yukon's at, and I don't

665
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Speaker 9: know if I'm taking too much away from UCLA. I mean,

666
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 9: obviously missing one of your best players and then going

667
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 9: out there and losing in a close game to Yukon

668
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Speaker 9: two and you talk about the athleticism, the stout front

669
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Speaker 9: line for Michigan State as well their ability to defend.

670
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Speaker 9: I think they're going to kind of run into a

671
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 9: brick wall here. From against Michigan State. The Spartans were

672
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 9: my final four pick to come out of that region.

673
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Speaker 9: So I'm going to kind of stick to my guns

674
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 9: against the Yukon team that did not impress in the

675
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 9: first round of the NCAA tournament, or hasn't really impressed

676
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Speaker 9: throughout a regular season that included playing through a big

677
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 9: East that absolutely stunk outside of them and of course

678
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 9: Saint John. So I think the Spartans dispatched them. I

679
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 9: think they went out right. They're small dogs, two point

680
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 9: underdogs in Michigan State is but I would disagree with that.

681
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Speaker 9: I think they should be favored.

682
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

683
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Speaker 4: Well, if Rob was here, he would say it ain't happening.

684
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Speaker 4: Tom Izzo ain't gonna never win again. Has been thirty

685
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: five something years he only won one. So in honor

686
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Speaker 4: of my partner not being here, let me make sure

687
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Speaker 4: I say what he was saying. Jonathan appreciate it as always. Man,

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Speaker 4: We'll do it again soon.

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Speaker 2: Holy good to catch up and speaking all right, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Hey on the way, Ephraim, you got something to break

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Speaker 4: down about you sports. I want to hear what you

692
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Speaker 4: have to say about this. I'm not even sure what

693
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Speaker 4: you're about to say, so I'm gonna find out, just

694
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Speaker 4: like you.

695
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Speaker 2: Stay with you boys.

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Speaker 4: This. They couple ethrams in for Rob kelvin Washington on

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Speaker 2: all of our guests.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan von Tobol just joined us a minute ago, Mark

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Speaker 4: is now time for us to hear what Ephraim had

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Speaker 4: to say. Yeah, man, about you sports, I heard you

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Jesus is on our side. Okay, So I

722
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: volunteer here in the community at the rec center. It

723
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: costs ten dollars for you to sign up and your

724
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: child to play basketball there. And the winter season is

725
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: the big season. At the end of the winter season,

726
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: it's LA's biggest tournament all the parks called the All

727
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: Star Tournament, and it's broken up into different ages. Supposed

728
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: to be fair competition where kids who play at the

729
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: park have an opportunity to play on an all star

730
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: team at a high level. Some of these kids may

731
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: never make an AAU team or a travel team. And

732
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: we were in this tournament. I've been doing this for

733
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: four years. I've been in three championships one last year.

734
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: This year, I moved up to the Major's division, which

735
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: is eleven and twelve year olds, and we're playing in

736
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: the championship against the team a park Richie Valence. They

737
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: got beat in the semis, but miraculously called someone called

738
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: and had an email that the team that they played

739
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: had an ineligible player. So they got bumped up into

740
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: the championship and we played. It was hard fought and

741
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: they beat us, and I was okay with that right

742
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: because I don't coach for wins and losses. I just

743
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: coached for effort. My kids gave everything they had. But

744
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: when we were in the trophy ceremony, the award ceremony,

745
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: we had to stay and watch them get their trophies,

746
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: which was crazy, but I noticed too, Yeah, I noticed

747
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: that the coach came right out and said, Hey, this

748
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: is for all the parents at the park who their

749
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: child didn't make the All Star team and they were

750
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: rooting against us. How we're winners, ha ha. And I

751
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: was like, Wow, that's weird. Then I noticed every kid

752
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: that he called up, they all had the same backpack on.

753
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: And what I noticed was it wasn't the backpack for

754
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: the All Star team for Richie Valence, it was actually

755
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: the backpack for a travel ball team. They all had

756
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: the travel ball backpack on. And then I did a

757
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: little research later that day and found out that the

758
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: majority of every kid on that team was from his

759
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 2: travel ball team, not leaving space an opportunity from any

760
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: other kid at that park to make the All Star team.

761
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: I also heard from a coach who coached there and

762
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: told me what my sentiments were right. His child did

763
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: not want to play on his travel team and didn't

764
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to be on the All Star team

765
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: for the park parents, everybody I talked about it on

766
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: my show, everybody reached out to me saying that they

767
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: felt that it was unfair the way the park was

768
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: running it, the way the coach was handling it the

769
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: whole nine yards. We have proof of the coach online

770
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: on Instagram saying how his twelve U A travel team

771
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: won the Valley Region WREC championship. Right, So I submitted

772
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: I say all that to say, I submitted all this

773
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: to the board just for fair practices and for everything

774
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: to be above board. And they came back and said, well,

775
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: we called over to the park and they said that

776
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: everything they did was right and everything they did with

777
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: And I said, so if there is no checks and

778
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: balances with this, right, if a team can bring an

779
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: entire travel basketball team that practices and plays year round together, right,

780
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: I coached my all Star team that I picked from

781
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: the season. It's eight game season. I picked the players

782
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: before the season is over, and then we have a

783
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: week to prepare for the tournament. They're practicing year round

784
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: because it's his travel ball team. And no kid not

785
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: on the travel ball team made the All Star team.

786
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: And when I submitted that, it was like, I was like,

787
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: do you guys not understand what that? Well, well, we can't,

788
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: you know, They said it wasn't. I said, so, they

789
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: said it. What about the proof that I sent in?

790
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: I sent in letters from parents and coaches from their

791
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: own park who told me and told them that the

792
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: draft process in the park wasn't equal. The coach got

793
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: to pick and choose players that he wanted on his team,

794
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: and then that no player outside of the ones that

795
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: he coached on the travel team had an opportunity to

796
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: even make the All Star team. And my whole thing is,

797
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: if this is about youth sports, this is not AAU,

798
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: this is not travel ball, this is reckball. If you

799
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: can't govern that, then what is the point. What's the

800
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: point of stealing away an opportunity from kids who may

801
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: not be able to go play travel ball, who may

802
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: not be able to go play AAU because they can't

803
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: afford it. Number one and number two, this is the

804
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: opportunity for them to play and represent their park in

805
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 2: their community and it's taken away and the Valley Region

806
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: Sports Board did nothing about it. So if you're out

807
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: there and you're a fan of youth sports, email them,

808
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: let them know, let them know that's not right, and

809
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: they shouldn't do that the kids who deserve it.

810
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: And I'm out all right, you never ran for president twice? Today,

811
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: great show, e and I'm with you, that's right. I

812
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 4: got your back, Vice President.

813
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is coming up next.

814
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Speaker 3: I never miss your radio show.

815
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Speaker 2: I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did

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Speaker 2: you hear that