1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: January sixth panel has unanimously urged criminal prosecution for Donald Trump. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Let's dig into it again, joining us live as Bloomberg 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: coggressional reporter Billy House. Thank you again, Billy. Now we 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: know this is not legally binding to go through it 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: for criminal prosecution, but the but the charges are severe, 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: so let's go through them. And this is you might 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: want to comment to a result of serious exhaustive work. Oh, 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: it has been. I mean we're seventeen months of investigation, 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: uh by the committee and millions of dollars and as 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, eighteen well publicized hearings. Um. But the referrals 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: are essentially four charges, including the assistance of an insurrection, 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: which is very severe, could result in disqualification of a person, 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: in this case former President Trump from running for office again. Yeah, 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: and the referrals do go to them. I'm sorry, I 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: don't mean to terrupt. The referrals go to the Department 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: of Justice, which is where King on on two separate 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: investigations of its own. It's absolutely correct that, in fact 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: that the Department of Justice, at this point, seventeen months 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: after the the House Committee began its work, maybe even 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: further along than the House Committee ended up. So we 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: don't know where they are, but we know that they 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: are well into some of these issues. And so is 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: a separate investigation out of Georgia and Fulton County, Atlanta. 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: So the committee mentioned Donald Trump and John Eastman by name. Now, 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: unless I missed it and I may have gone away 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom or something, I'm watching the hearing, 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: they mentioned them as co conspirators. Uh, they mentioned more 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: names to come. Do we have an inkling of who? Well, 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: we do, I mean, but they do it in a 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: kind of, uh, I don't want to say soft peddling way, 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: but with they they suggest, with the number of the charges, 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: including the obstruction and the conspiracy charges, that there are 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: a number of individuals and they run from former White 34 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, to Justice Department lawyer 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Clark to even former mayor julianni who had played 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: roles in some of these activities. And therefore they suggest 37 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 1: the committee that is that the Justice Department look into 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: those or scrutinize their roles, and they have ethics referrals 39 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: to that they're going to uh get to, including Kevin McCarthy. 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: Does it make hard harder for McCarthy's bid to become speaker, 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: which is challenged already. It is challenged, but ironically it's 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: the only challenger. Is also one of the four House 43 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: members with with the high geop leader UH to be 44 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: slapped with a referral to the House Ethics Committee. Andy 45 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Biggs of Arizona, who says he's running against McCarthy UH, 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: is also being accused by the Committee of of you know, 47 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: not not obliging a subpoena and therefore should face ethics charges. Yeah. Now, 48 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: I heard conjecture today that McCarthy actually to get in 49 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: and may have to make deals where it would take 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: one House member to UH to challenge him and he'd 51 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: be out. Is that correct? And how does that work? Well, 52 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: it's a complicated process. Here's here's the rub. The entire House, 53 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats, four thirty five members vote on January 54 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: three who will be the next speaker. UH. McCarthy and 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Republicans hold a very slim majority, only four seats right now, UH, 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: And if Biggs and his group of five or so 57 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: decided to hold out, Arthur's gonna have a tough time 58 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: getting the require two votes. The process is, until somebody 59 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: can get at least plus one of the total House votes, 60 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: you don't have a speaker. You keep doing the reballoting. 61 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: Now that hasn't happened for decades, but it's shaping up 62 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: to be a very real possibility this January. Okay, all right, Billy, 63 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: great work, and this is uh, the committee work, the 64 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: body of work is just absolutely amazing. Thank you so much. 65 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: That is Billy House, Congressional Bloomberg reporter,