Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joining this Friday morning by Pat fitz Morris
Speaker 1: and by Derek Brown. Fellas. It is week fourteen, Dee
Speaker 1: bro I talked a little bit about this with Fitz
Speaker 1: on yesterday's show with ericson. But how are you lining
Speaker 1: up here in the final week of the regular season
Speaker 1: for most fantasy leagues? Are you not to make the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Do you have a number of do or die games
Speaker 1: this week? How you looking good?
Speaker 2: Man? I got a few teams that are unfortunately dealing
Speaker 2: with the bye week issues. I got a lot of
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels. I think my biggest reaction right now is
Speaker 2: honestly like staring at my best ball teams, and I
Speaker 2: have so many that are on the cusp of like
Speaker 2: advancing like third to second place or right on, Like
Speaker 2: I could really use Jane Daniels playing this week.
Speaker 1: Man. Oh yeah, we we were talking to today. Fitz
Speaker 1: is taking a beating from bye weeks in scott Fish
Speaker 1: Bowl this week, So yeah, hoping to admit I'm a.
Speaker 2: Little better than he is in terms state in our
Speaker 2: Fantasy Pros league. One of those I think it's the
Speaker 2: Rafael League. I legit, I think I'm starting. My entire
Speaker 2: starting lineup is almost all waiver wire guys, because I
Speaker 2: didn't look at my weeks, and almost everybody in my
Speaker 2: starting lineup is on BUYE.
Speaker 1: This week, we've got our content team league, that fourteen teamer,
Speaker 1: and I've got Lamar, and it's you know, you don't
Speaker 1: have a backup quarterback and these these rosters are so long.
Speaker 1: So I went to pick somebody up. And then I
Speaker 1: realize that our playoffs actually start this week, and I
Speaker 1: got a buy so I didn't need to pick up
Speaker 1: a replacement we quarterback. So that flex very very fortunate.
Speaker 1: It was not a flex, it was lucky. I was
Speaker 1: surprised to find this out.
Speaker 2: Oh it was kind of a flex. Oh well I
Speaker 2: had to go get a quarterback. Oh well, I'm missing
Speaker 2: I gotta BUYE.
Speaker 1: I mean I had to get draft I guess, but
Speaker 1: like that's not a league that we're like, you know,
Speaker 1: putting too much time and effort into. So I will
Speaker 1: I will call it luck more than anything else. I
Speaker 1: can admit that this is our Friday show. We're gonna
Speaker 1: run through some key questions here for week fourteen, and
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Speaker 1: app fits. Let's start with you here on the Sunday
Speaker 1: Slate Panthers at Eagles, Bryce Young looking the best he
Speaker 1: ever has at the NFL level recently. Which other player
Speaker 1: in this offense benefits the most for fantasy managers? With
Speaker 1: Young looking more capable.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Chewba Hubbard. Just improved play from Bryce
Speaker 3: Young means longer drives, more plays, more scoring opportunities for
Speaker 3: Hubbard and when it gets down to it or Chewba
Speaker 3: Hubbard is still really the only remember the Panthers I
Speaker 3: want to start, especially at this time of year in
Speaker 3: do or die fantasy games. I just I don't want
Speaker 3: to start Adam Thielen in a playoff game. I don't
Speaker 3: want to start Xavier Lagett in a playoff game.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 3: Bryce Young has been better, but he has still thrown
Speaker 3: multiple touchdown passes in only one of his nine games
Speaker 3: this season. I don't really want to play anyone from
Speaker 3: this passing game this week in a really nasty matchup
Speaker 3: against the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think, de bro? Is it Chuba
Speaker 1: Hubbard just because you know, rising tide lift all boats?
Speaker 1: Or is it a guy like Adam Felon who had
Speaker 1: a really nice game with Bryce Young last week?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think Chuba Hubbard is definitely a player we need
Speaker 2: to talk about here. Looking at he's because he's still
Speaker 2: I know, people look at the box scors, they're not
Speaker 2: gonna look at the snaps and stuff like that. He's
Speaker 2: still the workhorse in this backfield. So let's not get intwisted.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks. His role increased last week, but this offense
Speaker 2: being better overall is gonna both raise the ceiling on
Speaker 2: the floor weekly for Cuba Hubbard. But I'll give some
Speaker 2: shine to the pass catchers, man. I mean, having competent
Speaker 2: quarterback play is obviously going to help. And you know,
Speaker 2: not only just for this week, but looking at this
Speaker 2: from uh because when I looked at this question, where
Speaker 2: I kept like going back to the dynasty angle for
Speaker 2: this and saying, Okay, this gives some actual credence to Okay,
Speaker 2: what could Xavierly get do down the stretch or Jatavian
Speaker 2: Sanders and what are our thoughts going to be going
Speaker 2: into the offseason about them?
Speaker 1: Bryceton did have a decent game against the Chiefs. Does
Speaker 1: that give you, guys any extra confidence? Because this is
Speaker 1: a very tough matchup right, Like Philly is this insane defense,
Speaker 1: especially the last several weeks, they've been, you know, possibly
Speaker 1: the best defense in football. The fact that we saw
Speaker 1: him doing you know, it's not like he you know,
Speaker 1: set the world on fire, but had a really good
Speaker 1: game for his standards against Kansas City. Does that give
Speaker 1: you any extra confidence fits against Philly?
Speaker 4: Not really?
Speaker 3: And again, like Cuba is the only guys that we're considering.
Speaker 3: And to Deebro's point, people seem to be freaking out
Speaker 3: about Cuba this week, but he did out snap Jonathan
Speaker 3: Brooks I think fifty five to fifteen last week, and
Speaker 3: Brooks just happened to get touches on nine of those
Speaker 3: fifteen snaps, so it looked like he was more involved
Speaker 3: than he really was. In reality, it's not to say
Speaker 3: Cuba is guaranteed of having a good fantasy day against
Speaker 3: this Eagles defense that's been playing so well under Vic Fangio.
Speaker 3: But I should ask you, Warmer, are you going to
Speaker 3: be upset if the Panthers have a better offensive showing
Speaker 3: this week against the Eagles than the Ravens did last week?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would say. But first of all,
Speaker 1: debrou please note it on the calendar that I didn't
Speaker 1: mention the Ravens. Fitz did.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was in the gas lighting in a gas
Speaker 2: lighting fashion, which I am totally on board with.
Speaker 1: I consider doing a bit of like first key question,
Speaker 1: what are the Ravens going to do over the bye week,
Speaker 1: just to annoy you? But I decided not to do that,
Speaker 1: and then and then fitz Brider home anyway, No, honestly,
Speaker 1: I mean that was just it was just one of
Speaker 1: those games where everything goes wrong and obviously, like when
Speaker 1: when Justin Tucker is missing two field goals at an
Speaker 1: extra point, like, ooh, this is it's just not your day.
Speaker 3: So sorry, I kild because I love Orman. Hey, your
Speaker 3: team is not going to lose this week. My team
Speaker 3: has already lost, so you're one up on me.
Speaker 1: I can't decide which week the Ravens have a better
Speaker 1: chance of not losing. This week against the bye week
Speaker 1: or next week against the Giants. It feels about the
Speaker 1: same in my opinion. I shouldn't have said that, because
Speaker 1: now if it does come back to bipen, it's been
Speaker 1: really bad. All right. Anyways, I do have a second
Speaker 1: question on this game, and I just want to ask,
Speaker 1: kind of for fun, how high would the over underhaf
Speaker 1: to be set Debro for you to not take the
Speaker 1: over on Saquon rushing yards this week?
Speaker 2: So from a betting perspective, I don't want to touch
Speaker 2: this at all because dude, his line right now is
Speaker 2: at ninety nine point five and the over is juiced
Speaker 2: the last time I looked at it to minus one seventy.
Speaker 2: So first of all, I don't want to touch this line,
Speaker 2: but like and I've.
Speaker 1: Said that, is that an unreasonable line give? And what
Speaker 1: He's like, No, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's really not like I was gonna say, like, you'd
Speaker 2: have to push this line for me not to like
Speaker 2: theoretically not take the over. I mean, he's averaged one
Speaker 2: hundred almost one hundred and twenty five rushing yards per game,
Speaker 2: So like in this matchup, you'd had to push that line,
Speaker 2: assuming say we got a minus one ten, I'd have
Speaker 2: to see that line like somewhere at like one oh
Speaker 2: probably one ten, one twelve to not want to hit
Speaker 2: the over for it. But maybe I'm just crazy, Fitz.
Speaker 1: Would it have to be for you?
Speaker 3: So when I looked at this number on DraftKings last
Speaker 3: time I checked, it was one hundred and thirteen point five,
Speaker 3: and I did not bet the over on that, just
Speaker 3: because I'm concerned that maybe the Eagles decide to give
Speaker 3: U Saquan a little bit of arrest early in the
Speaker 3: second half of this one. But I was wondering what
Speaker 3: it would take for me to actually bet the under
Speaker 3: on saquon what that number would need to be for
Speaker 3: me to want to hit the under. I think it
Speaker 3: would probably have to be something like one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty eight and a half for me to actually consider
Speaker 3: betting the under.
Speaker 2: Would it have to be plus money, Fitzy, or would
Speaker 2: you hit it at like my minus one ten if
Speaker 2: you guys, yeah, if it.
Speaker 3: Was, if it was like minus the usual minus one fifteen,
Speaker 3: I think I still bet under at one twenty eight
Speaker 3: point five.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a massive number.
Speaker 3: But obviously it's the best running back in the game
Speaker 3: going against the worst run defense in the game.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of the conversation we used to have
Speaker 2: with the the Cooper Cup receiving yardage lines, like Okay,
Speaker 2: well we're not gonna go to the over, right, But
Speaker 2: I mean it just keeps hitting yeap.
Speaker 1: His rushing totals since Week seven one hundred and seventy six,
Speaker 1: hundred and eight hundred and fifty nine sixty six, one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty six, two hundred and fifty five hundred
Speaker 1: and seven, and now he gets the Panthers. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just the number cannot possibly be too high.
Speaker 2: I've got a I've got a good little offshoot question
Speaker 2: here at worm y'all. Remember the conversation that Nick Sirianni
Speaker 2: had on the sideline with Saque about like, do you
Speaker 2: want to pull you out? This is the most rushing
Speaker 2: yards you've ever had? If to Fitzi's point, would they
Speaker 2: pull him out of the game even if they were
Speaker 2: just crushing the Panthers or do you see them running
Speaker 2: it up because they want to get him like to
Speaker 2: the league record rushing yards with the season. I think
Speaker 2: they keep him in, But that it's makes a good question.
Speaker 1: I mean, on the one hand, Saquon, well, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he would like to get to that mark. He like
Speaker 1: you said, there was that clip like he's a team
Speaker 1: player and you know, wants to give other guys to
Speaker 1: a shine. Having said that, like you're now close enough
Speaker 1: to the end of the season where it's like it
Speaker 1: feels like a much more atteainable goal. Like first half
Speaker 1: of the year, it's like, okay, yeah, well was he
Speaker 1: really going to get there? Now? It's like you're like
Speaker 1: a month, like a really good month away from history.
Speaker 1: So I actually that's a really good Callity, bro, what
Speaker 1: do you think that it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't he have like contract incentives tied to yardage because
Speaker 2: I know they're not tied to touchdowns because he was
Speaker 2: a smart Probably.
Speaker 1: I haven't bet I haven't looked at his contract.
Speaker 3: But I mean, if they're smart, they don't leave him
Speaker 3: in because this team has serious championship designs.
Speaker 4: Like last I checked.
Speaker 3: The futures odds for winning the Super Bowl, Lions were
Speaker 3: the favorites, and then it was the Chief, Spills and
Speaker 3: Eagles in a three way tie.
Speaker 1: I think if he's like over one hundred, they're probably
Speaker 1: not pushing it. If he's at like a low number,
Speaker 1: that maybe knocks him off pace. Maybe they like toy
Speaker 1: with the idea, but I mean fits is correct. The
Speaker 1: smart thing to do would be to not think about
Speaker 1: that at all in approaching this game. But so he
Speaker 1: does have a good.
Speaker 2: History incentives and stuff like that, Like he's got I'm
Speaker 2: looking at it right now. So a quarter of a
Speaker 2: mill for plus fifteen hundred scrimmag yards, another quarter of
Speaker 2: a mill for plus two thousand scrimmage yards, and then
Speaker 2: some other ones that are better tied to like if
Speaker 2: they get at the conference championship and win, if they
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, or if he's an All Pro
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I would guess that he'd be more motivated by
Speaker 1: the idea of setting the rushing record than he would
Speaker 1: like like he makes enough money or not that he
Speaker 1: would want to make more money, But like I would
Speaker 1: think that the motivating factor would be, you know, history
Speaker 1: or not. But let's go to the next game, Jets
Speaker 1: at Dolphins, which Jet coming off a poor game has
Speaker 1: a better chance of bouncing back in Miami, deebra, I'll
Speaker 1: start with you, Garrett Wilson or Breese Haw.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Garrett Wilson because right now, as we're
Speaker 2: recording this, I'm gonna know if Breesehall plays this week,
Speaker 2: considering he's you know, banged up with a knee issue.
Speaker 2: But I mean, honestly, even if we assume Breese Hall
Speaker 2: is healthy and he's gonna play plays normal role, I'm
Speaker 2: still gonna pick Garrett Wilson. Miami has had a very
Speaker 2: good run defense for most of the season. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: they just shut down Josh Jacobs. I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: do the same thing to this run game. M Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, he's gonna get the targets. I think
Speaker 2: the coverage matchup leans a little bit more in his favor.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take Wilson here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. I made the outline a
Speaker 1: little earlier in the week this week, and you know
Speaker 1: he hasn't practiced in the days since then, so it
Speaker 1: obviously is not trending in the right direction for Breesaw
Speaker 1: or are they playing tool at fantasypros dot Com actually
Speaker 1: only gives him a twelve percent chance to play, So
Speaker 1: it's it's a good point. That's that's a little actually
Speaker 1: even more negative than I had expected, so that that's
Speaker 1: pretty low based on this this practice stuff fits what
Speaker 1: do you think a just kind of about Bresaw in general,
Speaker 1: but be if you were to play, who would you
Speaker 1: like better in the matchup?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if Paul plays, he's probably not going
Speaker 3: to get twenty carries in five catches. It would be
Speaker 3: a lighter day for him with Brailan Allen making more
Speaker 3: significant contributions. So Garrett Wilson and I know he's had
Speaker 3: like three clunker games in a row as of now,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't that long ago that he was on fire.
Speaker 3: Over a five game stretch from Week five to Week nine,
Speaker 3: he had forty catches, four hundred and seventy two yards,
Speaker 3: and four touchdowns and it was the wide receiver one
Speaker 3: in fantasy scoring over that stretch, so not too far
Speaker 3: fetch to expect to bounce back from Garrett Wilson after
Speaker 3: a couple of bad games. But then again, I think
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers has been under two hundred passing yards in
Speaker 3: three straight and it just seems like this offense is
Speaker 3: coming off the rails.
Speaker 2: He's getting the volume. I mean, six targets, eight targets,
Speaker 2: ten targets. Just Aaron Rodgers sucks.
Speaker 1: Let's pivot then on this question, because of the injury
Speaker 1: with Hall, where are you guys ranking Braylan Allen this week?
Speaker 3: Ooh, I mean right now, I've I've still got him
Speaker 3: like in the thirties because I'm ranking Breece Hall as
Speaker 3: if he's going to play. But if he doesn't practice, Yeah,
Speaker 3: if we don't see Hall practicing on Friday, I will
Speaker 3: vault Braylen Allen into I don't know, somewhere in RB
Speaker 3: two territory mid range to low end RB two.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put him exactly where I have Breece
Speaker 2: Hall at at RB sixteen as we're all put Brayln Allen.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Falcons at Vikings. We got a revenge
Speaker 1: game narrative here from Kirk cousins. But I want to
Speaker 1: ask about Kyle Pitts, who has six receptions and ten
Speaker 1: and a half Fantasy points total since he had that
Speaker 1: big game in Week eight. That's total ten and a
Speaker 1: half Fantasy points. And by the way, four of those
Speaker 1: receptions came in one game, so the other games combined,
Speaker 1: he has two receptions since Week eight. Why isn't he
Speaker 1: ranked even lower than tight end fourteen in ECR this week?
Speaker 3: Fits probably because people don't have immense faith in the
Speaker 3: likes of Pat Fryarmouth, Cole Kamets, Noah Gray, and Mike
Speaker 3: Kasicki Grant Calcatar, guys ranked below him. But I get
Speaker 3: the premise of your question, where like I have Kyle
Speaker 3: pits ranked tight end fifteen and really don't want to
Speaker 3: play him against Minnesota this week. He said six catches
Speaker 3: for seventy five yards over his last four games, and
Speaker 3: fifty five of those seventy five yards came in one game.
Speaker 3: So he's just been kind of a non factor, not
Speaker 3: really playing on every down anymore, just sort of obvious
Speaker 3: passing downs.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, I mean, he.
Speaker 3: Is just stopped producing on anything close to a reliable basis.
Speaker 2: Debra, Uh, Yeah, I echo all of it's these points here,
Speaker 2: and I will say I have Kyle Pits at tight
Speaker 2: end eighteen this week. I do not want to play him.
Speaker 2: I have and this is assuming Dalton Kin Kay does
Speaker 2: not play this week. I have Dawson Knox, Jake Ferguson,
Speaker 2: Grant cal Katara, and Juwan Johnson and Pat friarm Youth
Speaker 2: all ranked over Kyle Pitts. I've already bet the under
Speaker 2: on Kyle Pitts's receiving yardage. I was actually kind of,
Speaker 2: like really happily surprised how high it was, because one,
Speaker 2: he is coming off a season low forty one percent
Speaker 2: of the snaps. So if it's he talked about, he's
Speaker 2: not playing, it's not even on like just every down.
Speaker 2: He's not even playing on even half the snaps. But
Speaker 2: he has been allergic to catching passes against too high
Speaker 2: coverage and Minnesota runs that at the highest rate in
Speaker 2: the freaking NFL. Kyle Pits versus too high coverage zero
Speaker 2: point nine to five yards per route run not good.
Speaker 2: Eleven point five percent first reach here not good. There
Speaker 2: is no way I want to play Kyle Pitts this week.
Speaker 2: If it burns me, it burns me. I will stream
Speaker 2: any one of those guys over Kyle Pitts.
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Speaker 1: was like going into the season. I'm willing to give
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Speaker 1: I said there's at least one standout matchup that we
Speaker 1: get on Sunday Night football. We did have another one
Speaker 1: last night, which we didn't really talk about at the
Speaker 1: top of the show, but what a great Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: It's so nice when Thursday it like has a ton
Speaker 1: of hype and then actually lives up to it. I know,
Speaker 1: fits maybe you were less happy watching that game given
Speaker 1: the outcome, but really fun back and forth and give
Speaker 1: us some good At discourse, we were talking before the
Speaker 1: show about Dan Campbell going forward on fourth just for
Speaker 1: the listeners to hear, Deebra, what do you think about
Speaker 1: that call?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with it, man, I mean Dan camp
Speaker 2: Well basically said, look, if this is what our division
Speaker 2: title comes down to, I'm putting the ball in the
Speaker 2: hands of my guys and that's how I'm gonna roll
Speaker 2: with it. And I've got nothing against that, like analytics
Speaker 2: not yes, No, I mean FITZI. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 2: turn this over to FITZI because I think he brought
Speaker 2: up an even better point of or maybe it was
Speaker 2: you worm whoever said that it was not even the
Speaker 2: most egregious fourth down call that he made in the
Speaker 2: whole freaking game, Like, I think that's the better point here,
Speaker 2: Like I have no issues with what he did at
Speaker 2: the end of the game. None.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think Dan Campbell definitely toes the
Speaker 3: line between aggression and recklessness. And I know, you know,
Speaker 3: Fantasy Twitter celebrates the aggression, and I had no problem
Speaker 3: with that call. I think if you looked at like
Speaker 3: the expected value of that call going forward versus kicking
Speaker 3: the field goal, it was it was probably a pretty
Speaker 3: close call between what was the technically the right move,
Speaker 3: but going for it earlier on his own thirty yard line,
Speaker 3: I mean, and then pairing that with kind of a
Speaker 3: questionable called by Ben Johnson on that wide run by
Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs, sort of an all or nothing running play
Speaker 3: when you only need one yard. I thought that was
Speaker 3: veering into reckless territory. And we saw the recklessness last
Speaker 3: year in the NFC Championship game against the forty nine ers,
Speaker 3: like as chewing the field goal opportunity, and you know
Speaker 3: a lot of Lions fans were upset with Dan Campbell
Speaker 3: about that. So yeah, I mean he's going to he's
Speaker 3: going to be aggressive. We've seen that. But you just
Speaker 3: hope that he stays on the aggressive side of the
Speaker 3: line and doesn't veer into recklessness. But I couldn't be
Speaker 3: too disappointed with the Packers. I thought they played a
Speaker 3: really good game. But you have to play a great
Speaker 3: game to beat the Lions in their building, and they
Speaker 3: fell short of playing a great game.
Speaker 1: By the way, on that game, do we have interest
Speaker 1: in Tim Patrick moving forward? The rest of the way,
Speaker 1: is a guy to add for the fantasy playoffs?
Speaker 3: I don't think we can rely on the target counts.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, I agree with that. I mean it's just
Speaker 3: like we're not even I don't know if even a'man
Speaker 3: Ross Saint Brown investors are entirely happy with the target
Speaker 3: counts they've been getting. So Tim Patrick, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If there were better matchups upcoming, then I would say
Speaker 2: maybe you put him on the flex radar. But against
Speaker 2: the Bills, the Bears, the forty nine ers. It's not
Speaker 2: like I think we're gonna have better options. I think
Speaker 2: the question is warranted. But for me, it was very
Speaker 2: disappointing because I was a week early on Patrick Lake
Speaker 2: in the Thanksgiving primer. I was like, oh, yeah, versus
Speaker 2: deep passing, and then he goes out and he doesn't
Speaker 2: catch the INDs on target, and then I watch him
Speaker 2: catch you tuddies versus.
Speaker 1: I've always liked Patrick. I'm happy to see him.
Speaker 3: He is a great That is one of the cool
Speaker 3: stories of twenty twenty four that this guy who's had
Speaker 3: multiple season ending injuries in training camps and now he's
Speaker 3: making like important catches in December for a team with
Speaker 3: Super Bowl aspirations.
Speaker 4: Like really good story.
Speaker 2: He's one of the guys where it's like if if
Speaker 2: at the end of the year, you know the line,
Speaker 2: do the thing and they get the super Bowl title
Speaker 2: and and he's one of the guys where we're like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I really wanted that guy to get
Speaker 2: a ring, Like I'm happy about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Deebro, do you want to take ten
Speaker 1: seconds to gush about Christian Watson?
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're gonna set me up.
Speaker 1: Sure, dude, ten seconds.
Speaker 2: I just look. I keep seeing it every single week,
Speaker 2: and we got we got it this week. Boys, give
Speaker 2: Christian Watson a lot of targets and let's mess around
Speaker 2: and find out. And the Packers did, and Christian Watson like, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: the fumble was not great. Okay, that's fine, trying to
Speaker 2: make a big play, making big plays. And I think
Speaker 2: the bigger thing like we need to take away from
Speaker 2: this is also in the same conversation, Jayden Reid flopping
Speaker 2: is a problem in the sense of in the context
Speaker 2: of this offense. The scary thing about Reid moving forward
Speaker 2: is he's not playing in two wide sets and in
Speaker 2: this run heavy version of the Packers, that's making a
Speaker 2: big difference in his volatility week to week. So while
Speaker 2: I want to give a lot to Watson, awesome game,
Speaker 2: love him, there's also a lot of scary stuff about
Speaker 2: Jane Reid.
Speaker 1: By the way, I know we're going a little long
Speaker 1: in this game in the middle of the show, but
Speaker 1: I just also wanted to ask, because it was a
Speaker 1: really fun game. Josh Jacobs, where are we going to
Speaker 1: rank him next year? If he finishes the way he
Speaker 1: has been. He has been a top six running back
Speaker 1: in half PPR, scoring in five of his last six games,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of assuming he's going to be there
Speaker 1: this week with the three touchdowns, so maybe this week
Speaker 1: he goes lower. Obviously, right now he's number one because
Speaker 1: only one game has happened, but even leading up to
Speaker 1: this game where he just said three touchdowns, in Week eight,
Speaker 1: he was RB two, Week nine, he was RB twenty one,
Speaker 1: then he had a bye, then he was RB five,
Speaker 1: RB two, RB six, and then three touchdowns last night.
Speaker 1: He's been awesome. Way like I expected him to be
Speaker 1: pretty good in Green Bay. I didn't expect him to
Speaker 1: be this good.
Speaker 3: Fits I know Deebro and I were both sort of
Speaker 3: worried that Matt Lafleur has traditionally not been a one
Speaker 3: running back guy and that maybe he would kind of
Speaker 3: turn Jacobs into like a committee back.
Speaker 4: Obviously it hasn't been the case.
Speaker 3: Jacobs is getting all the work and man, this guy
Speaker 3: is just built to take a pounding like he is different,
Speaker 3: man Like, he is really tough, one of the best
Speaker 3: inside runners I think in the league, if not the best,
Speaker 3: just because this guy can pick his way through traffic.
Speaker 4: So well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just the fit could not be better
Speaker 3: in this offense. And I'll probably have him inside RB
Speaker 3: one territory next year, probably somewhere in the RB eight
Speaker 3: to RB twelve range.
Speaker 4: I would guess.
Speaker 1: Each week it's it might be something different, right, like
Speaker 1: six since Week seven, in every game he's had either
Speaker 1: ninety five rushing yards or at least five targets in
Speaker 1: the passing game, or multiple touchdowns, and in some of
Speaker 1: the weeks multiple those things are true. But I mean
Speaker 1: it's just there. There's always some path to him providing
Speaker 1: for you in fantasy. He hasn't been lower than RB
Speaker 1: twenty five since Week three. That's the only week of
Speaker 1: the season he has been, you know, beyond that mid
Speaker 1: twenties point. So just a high floor and a high
Speaker 1: ceiling and looking like a league winner. Honestly, the way
Speaker 1: he's been playing the last month, so awesome to see
Speaker 1: for Josh Jacobs. One of many running backs as we've
Speaker 1: talked about all season, in new new teams. You know,
Speaker 1: Sakua and Derrek, Henry, Josh Jacobs, they're all crushing it.
Speaker 1: It's super cool to see. Honestly. All right, let's go
Speaker 1: to Jags at Titans. A lot debro is being made
Speaker 1: of this being a Calvin Ridley revenge game. Are you
Speaker 1: buying that narrative? I am buying in the narrative in
Speaker 1: a big way. And a lot of this comes down
Speaker 1: to if you were to tell me that the Jags
Speaker 1: were going to do coverage wise what they have done
Speaker 1: in previous weeks, which is feature a lot of too
Speaker 1: high coverage, then I'd be much lower on Ridley. Now,
Speaker 1: what the Jags have done over.
Speaker 2: The last two weeks is they have moved to a
Speaker 2: lot of single high coverage, So they over the last
Speaker 2: two games, they have featured a single high at the
Speaker 2: sixth highest rate, so almost sixty six percent of their
Speaker 2: defensive snaps. Calvin Ridley is one of these guys, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot, there's a big bucket of these wide
Speaker 2: receivers that have had massive splits the entire season too
Speaker 2: high coverage, the single high coverage, and Calvin Realley's numbers
Speaker 2: versus single high have been awesome, like since Week ten,
Speaker 2: and he's been getting the target chair twenty five point
Speaker 2: five percent target chair, two point eight yards per route
Speaker 2: run and almost a thirty percent first reach here against
Speaker 2: single high so While I'm not gonna go too far
Speaker 2: down narrative street, this is one where I feel like
Speaker 2: the analytics, the data lines up with narratives. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: dancing down narrative street with Calvin Ridley this week. Already,
Speaker 2: bit is overs.
Speaker 1: Where do you have Hi ranked?
Speaker 2: Debro? Actually my ranking is kind of blasphemous. I'm going
Speaker 2: to update this right now on the show. I'm moving
Speaker 2: him up to wide receiver fourteen.
Speaker 1: Why receiver fourteen is exactly where he is? An ECR
Speaker 1: fits for you?
Speaker 2: That wow geez.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got him a wide receiver twelve, so I'm
Speaker 3: above ECR on him. And am I buying the idea
Speaker 3: of Ridley having a big game because he wants revenge
Speaker 3: on the Jacksonville Jaguars? Not really, But am I buying
Speaker 3: the idea that Calvin Ridley is a big game because
Speaker 3: the Jaguars pass defense is abysmal?
Speaker 4: Yes, very much so.
Speaker 3: The Jags are thirty second in DVOA against the pass.
Speaker 3: They have given up the higher opponent passer rating in
Speaker 3: the league by far. They've get up the third most
Speaker 3: fantasy points to wide receivers and the last two lead receivers.
Speaker 3: The Jaguars have faced were a'm and ross Saint Brown
Speaker 3: who had eleven catches for one hundred and sixty one
Speaker 3: yards and two touchdowns, and Nico Collins who had eight
Speaker 3: catches for one hundred and nineteen yards. So yes, I
Speaker 3: think Calvin Ridley's kind of a big game this week.
Speaker 1: Did I miss some reason? He's actually fallen in ECR
Speaker 1: the last two days? He was wide receiver eleven and
Speaker 1: then dropped down. Was there something that caused him to
Speaker 1: drop down?
Speaker 3: Just Nick Westbrook a keene fever? And how could we
Speaker 3: rank Calvin Ridley so high when.
Speaker 4: Is out there?
Speaker 1: I think it's more that other receivers have gotten up
Speaker 1: in the rankings and so by nature somebody had to drop.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's he's in that high end wise.
Speaker 2: Which also pray for me, boys, I've got will Levi's
Speaker 2: faith this week. That scared. I'm scared, but I have
Speaker 2: faith and will love us this.
Speaker 1: Week braver than I am. Let's cut a Browns at
Speaker 1: Steelers From Patrick Doherty Front of the Pod on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy leads the NFL in receiving in the six
Speaker 1: weeks since Jamis Winston took over his starter. Even with
Speaker 1: the Browns by coming during that span. Obviously, Judy is
Speaker 1: coming off this massive money and my game in Denver fits,
Speaker 1: So what are our expectations for him against a stout
Speaker 1: Steelers offense with him not only coming off this huge game,
Speaker 1: but having been very good since Winston took over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's averaged one hundred and twenty two
Speaker 3: yards a game and Winston starts so far, obviously a
Speaker 3: little skewed by the big game, the two hundred plus
Speaker 3: yard game against Denver, But so I only have Judy
Speaker 3: ranked wide receiver twenty six this week.
Speaker 4: And here's why.
Speaker 3: When the Browns played the Steelers a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 3: in that snowy game in Cleveland, Judy was mostly drawn
Speaker 3: coverage from Joey Porter Junior, and Judy actually got the
Speaker 3: better Porter that game, only six targets, but he caught
Speaker 3: all six of them for eighty five yards. I think
Speaker 3: Joey Porter Junior is going to be out for revenge
Speaker 3: this week almost surely is going to shadow Judy, especially
Speaker 3: if Cedric Tillman doesn't return and the game is in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Is as good as Winston and the Winston Judy combination
Speaker 3: have been lately, I just I don't love the outlook
Speaker 3: for Jerry Judy this week.
Speaker 1: What do you think de bro in looking at Judy?
Speaker 1: You know, since Winston took over, you know, at least
Speaker 1: seventy three receiving yards in every game, at least eight
Speaker 1: targets of four out of five games, at least eleven
Speaker 1: targets and three out of five games, the volume's been there.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Porter follows him. Like, if he does,
Speaker 2: I agree with everything, Fit said my Only my worry
Speaker 2: about it is like, Okay, the last time that they
Speaker 2: played them, they put they put Judy in the slot
Speaker 2: fifty five percent of his time. So do they try
Speaker 2: to hide him? Because I was low on Judy last week?
Speaker 2: I said, okay, well, Denver, the smart thing that you
Speaker 2: you do to take Judy away as you put certain
Speaker 2: on him eighty ninety percent of his routes. Let I'm
Speaker 2: follow into the slot and you take Judy away. Din
Speaker 2: For said, no, I don't care. We don't respect him
Speaker 2: enough to do that. I look, if the Steelers do
Speaker 2: that and they put Joey Porter Junior in his back pocket,
Speaker 2: then yes, it's a down game for Jerry Judy. If
Speaker 2: they don't Judy's gonna eat him up because this this
Speaker 2: secondary has been exposed in recent weeks. So since Week eight,
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh has allowed the second most receiving yards per game
Speaker 2: and the thirteenth highest or most excuse me PPR points
Speaker 2: per target to perimeter wide receivers. So it's a wide
Speaker 2: range of outcomes for Jerry Judy this week, Let's.
Speaker 1: Look at Bears at forty nine ers. Where should Isaac
Speaker 1: erd know? Obviously, like the we have a wired darling
Speaker 1: in the week, where should Garendo be ranked in his
Speaker 1: first week as the presumptive lead back for the Niners? Fits?
Speaker 4: Where should he be ranked?
Speaker 3: So I'll just assume that I'm right on where he
Speaker 3: should be ranked, and I've got him at RB ten,
Speaker 3: so I'm I'm definitely above consensus. Like he is a
Speaker 3: good bet for fifteen to twenty carries against the Bear's
Speaker 3: run defense that ranks thirtieth in DVOA and has given
Speaker 3: up the tenth most Fantasy points to running back, So
Speaker 3: it's a good spot for him. I think they need
Speaker 3: him Behind him, We've got I mean, Deebo Samuel is
Speaker 3: probably effectively the backup running back here because I don't
Speaker 3: know how much we're going to see if Patrick Taylor
Speaker 3: or is he a Bana Kanda who's you know, had
Speaker 3: less than a week to digest the forty nine ers playbook.
Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna be a heavy dose of
Speaker 3: Isaac Grendo and the matchup is really appealing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Grenda is are we fifteen for the record
Speaker 1: in ECR so fits you know several spots higher deebra
Speaker 1: It sounds like you agree that he should be higher
Speaker 1: than fifteen.
Speaker 2: I have him at RB ten as well, So I
Speaker 2: agree absolutely with FITZI. I mean, this is Jordan Mason
Speaker 2: two point zero. People like, let's not overthink this. He's
Speaker 2: gonna get fifteen to twenty touches. He's been good on
Speaker 2: the touches that he's getting or he's gotten this year.
Speaker 2: This is not like, Okay, a scrub running back put
Speaker 2: into the starting lineup of a bot. This is not
Speaker 2: in a mirror situation. Let's talk about it that way.
Speaker 2: Were Isaac Grindo with the work he's gotten so far
Speaker 2: this year, and I know it's a small sample, it's
Speaker 2: only forty two carries nine point five percent explosive run rate,
Speaker 2: twenty one percent miss tackle rate. Those are both really
Speaker 2: dang good to solid. Now you match that up with
Speaker 2: Chicago's not stopping anybody. Like I fought with Joe about
Speaker 2: this earlier in the week, and like, okay, Like does
Speaker 2: San Francisco to Chicago win this game. Chicago's entire skill
Speaker 2: players are all beaten up. I think San Francisco comes
Speaker 2: out and hands the Chicago Bears a loss in this game.
Speaker 2: I think Grindo's gonna have a really good game in
Speaker 2: Chicago's run defense has been terrible, man Like since we eate.
Speaker 2: They're allowing the third most rushing yards per game and
Speaker 2: the sixth highest explosive run rate. You're playing right into
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan's hands. Let him run the ball. Grendo's gonna
Speaker 2: rip off some big runs this week.
Speaker 4: I mean I might.
Speaker 3: I might have Grendo ranked even higher if Trent Williams
Speaker 3: were assured of playing like that's That's the only concern
Speaker 3: here is that you know, the forty nine ers big
Speaker 3: left tackle, one of the best offensive linemen in the game,
Speaker 3: probably isn't going to be around.
Speaker 1: For this game.
Speaker 2: To your point, though, FITZI, the Bears run defense has
Speaker 2: been so freaking bad it might not even matter.
Speaker 1: Right, impromptu starter, sit Grendo or James Cook this week?
Speaker 2: Oh good lord, I want to play both.
Speaker 1: But this is the decision people will have to make
Speaker 1: because you didn't draft Grendo to be like one of
Speaker 1: your top three running backs. If you picked him up, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna have to start him over a quality
Speaker 1: player You're.
Speaker 2: Not gonna have to start. I mean you're starting in
Speaker 2: then a flexible lot of people would be right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible, but there, if you're if you're
Speaker 1: still playing for this season, you probably have a pretty
Speaker 1: good team. You've probably acquired some amount of death running
Speaker 1: backs have largely been healthy this year, so you probably
Speaker 1: are pretty set there. I mean, I agree that obviously
Speaker 1: you want to play both, but I think it's worth
Speaker 1: asking about a name like that because I think people
Speaker 1: will have to make that decision.
Speaker 2: Not James Cook. But I'll give you a few names
Speaker 2: of players that I have right below him in rankings,
Speaker 2: and I'm curious where FITSI is on them as well.
Speaker 2: Like I will play Grenda over James Connor, I will
Speaker 2: play Grindo. And this is going to be a blasphemous name.
Speaker 2: People are gonna hate this. I will play Grinda over
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving. I will play Grinda over Kenneth Walker. I
Speaker 2: will play Grinda over Tony Pollard. Like I know, Bucky
Speaker 2: Irving is the one name that everybody's gonna be like,
Speaker 2: oh really, like come on, like, oh yeah, I'm playing
Speaker 2: him over Bucky Irving.
Speaker 3: I've got Grinda ranked ahead of all those guys except
Speaker 3: Bucky Irving. I've got Bucky like at RB eights and
Speaker 3: like I might bring down the ranking of Bucky a
Speaker 3: little depending on the medical outlook for him this week.
Speaker 3: But as for the original James Cook question, Worm, I've
Speaker 3: got Girndo tenth, Cook twelfth. So it's a really close
Speaker 3: call for sure. I mean the Rams have been the
Speaker 3: Rams have been getting beaten up. Obviously, they the big
Speaker 3: Saquon game. Alvin Kamara had over one hundred rushing yards
Speaker 3: against them last week. So it is a good spot
Speaker 3: for Cook, no question about it.
Speaker 2: And to pull back that, like to answer your question, Worm,
Speaker 2: I've I won't play him over James Cook. I've got
Speaker 2: James Cook at RB eight, but it's close.
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Speaker 1: Rams and fits. My key question here. Amari Cooper is
Speaker 1: wide receiver seventy in Fantasy points per game since being
Speaker 1: traded to Buffalo. That's points per game, not just overall
Speaker 1: easy at all? Startable against the Rams.
Speaker 3: Oh borderline, I've got him ranked wide receiver thirty seven,
Speaker 3: and I mean in Amari Cooper's first game with the Bills,
Speaker 3: he had five targets, four catches sixty six yards in
Speaker 3: a touchdown.
Speaker 4: Kind of a promising start for him.
Speaker 3: He's played three games with the Bills since then, missing
Speaker 3: a couple because of a wrist injury. His target counts
Speaker 3: in those three games two, three, and three. So Cooper
Speaker 3: is terrific, perennially underrated, but it's really hard to trust
Speaker 3: him until he starts drawing some targets. So until we
Speaker 3: see that, I just can't really trust him in my lineup.
Speaker 1: What are you doing with Cooper? Debro?
Speaker 2: I'm grinning ear to ear because I'm immensely like I'm
Speaker 2: over the moon for Mari Cooper this week. And this
Speaker 2: comes down to I think last week's Snow Snow game
Speaker 2: and that game being a blowout is hiding the fact
Speaker 2: that Amari Cooper was on his way to being a
Speaker 2: full time player. So if you look at the first
Speaker 2: half of last week's game, he had the second highest
Speaker 2: route share on the team, only behind Khalil Shakir. So
Speaker 2: Shakir was at eighty percent, Amari Cooper was at seven.
Speaker 2: He's opened the week with full practices. I think this
Speaker 2: is the breakout game for a Mari Cooper this week.
Speaker 2: I'm going out on a limb for this. My ranking
Speaker 2: of him is also with that, Like I'm aggressive. I
Speaker 2: have Amari Cooper at wide receiver twenty one. I understand
Speaker 2: that I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm
Speaker 2: doing so with the idea that he was quietly going
Speaker 2: to be a full time player. Last week. The elements,
Speaker 2: the entire like everything around that game threw that off.
Speaker 2: So I think we're getting the flop lag game of
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper being a full time player in this offense.
Speaker 2: He's finally fully healthy and the matchup is fantastic, man.
Speaker 2: I mean the Rams since week seven, they're allowing the
Speaker 2: highest PPR points per target two perimeter wide receivers, and
Speaker 2: we STI don't even know if Keon Coleman's going to
Speaker 2: play this week. I think he does play, but he's
Speaker 2: the guy, like is he going to play a full
Speaker 2: time role because I don't think he's fully healthy. So
Speaker 2: to me, this is the Cooper breakout week.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: When you said that, I went to look it up
Speaker 1: because I like, that sounds really high. Of our one
Speaker 1: hundred plus experts that we have in the expert consensus rankings,
Speaker 1: you are the highest on Amari Cooper.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I know I'm out on a
Speaker 2: limb with this. I get that. But Dalton Kink not
Speaker 2: one hundred percent Keon Coleman. We don't know if it's
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Curtis Samuel is banged up. Cooper legit
Speaker 2: could get peppered with targets this.
Speaker 4: Week and he's Ericson's flag plant guy.
Speaker 2: I just want what I want right now, and as
Speaker 2: we're recording this right now, I am continuing to look
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Speaker 2: I need a line because I just want to bet
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper ladders this week. That's all I want.
Speaker 1: Please. There's no props out, there's no.
Speaker 2: Line, no line yet, and I know I know why.
Speaker 2: I get it. It's because they don't know if Keon
Speaker 2: Coleman's playing and stuff like that. Once we get designations,
Speaker 2: they'll post a line. I will be in the Betting
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Speaker 2: I sent the message on like Tuesday, when I looked
Speaker 2: at this game and wrote it up. I said, we're
Speaker 2: betting Amari Cooper latterers this week. People. I just need lines.
Speaker 1: DraftKings does have like anytime touchdown score plus one sixty five,
Speaker 1: first touchdown scores plus one thousand. But yeah, no yardage
Speaker 1: yet for.
Speaker 2: The Benga player plus one sixty five. That's a pretty
Speaker 2: good number for him to get in the end zones
Speaker 2: just thrown it out there.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Seahawks at Cardinals. Pretty good game this week.
Speaker 1: Cardinals told us ahead of Week thirteen that they were
Speaker 1: making it a point to get Marvin Harrison Junior involved
Speaker 1: again as a centerpiece of the offense. He did have
Speaker 1: twelve targets, only caught five balls sixty yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: It's not a terrible day, but relative to the target
Speaker 1: total and relative to kind of the way Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 1: was speaking up about what they were going to do
Speaker 1: with Harrison that week, a bit of a disappointment fits
Speaker 1: What do we expect from Harrison against Seattle?
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can answer that question with
Speaker 3: any certainty considering his target counts have been all over
Speaker 3: the place. And it's nice that Jonathan Gannon did talk
Speaker 3: about wanting to get him more involved, and we saw,
Speaker 3: you know, a season high in targets, but it was
Speaker 3: only the third time this year that Marvin Harrison Junior
Speaker 3: has had eight or more targets in a game only
Speaker 3: the third, So I've got him ranked as a low
Speaker 3: end wide receiver too. I think you're probably starting him
Speaker 3: under most circumstances, but really hard to feel confident in
Speaker 3: him when his role has sort of ebbed and flowed
Speaker 3: over the course of the season.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Debro, I'm not confident and Marvin
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior at all this week, and I think look
Speaker 2: at looking at his usage last week, Brian Flora has
Speaker 2: changed up what he's done the entire season, and I
Speaker 2: think that is the biggest reason why why that came
Speaker 2: to fruition about Harrison Junior getting the work because Brian
Speaker 2: Flores has been too high coverage. It's been number one,
Speaker 2: number two almost every single week in the NFL. How
Speaker 2: much too high Brian Floras switched it up. They had
Speaker 2: almost sixty five percent of the defensive snaps were single
Speaker 2: high coverage last week. That has been an and again
Speaker 2: going back to these wide receivers that have the massive splits,
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior is firmly in that conversation. Against single high teams.
Speaker 2: He's been the guy that we wanted him to be
Speaker 2: against two high teams. He has been a ghost. I
Speaker 2: think we see him ghost again this week because unlike
Speaker 2: flores Seattle and people will say, why is their past
Speaker 2: defense playing so much better over the last few weeks,
Speaker 2: It's because McDonald took a hard look in the mirror
Speaker 2: and said, look, we don't have the personnel. We're not
Speaker 2: gonna play single high anymore. They came out at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the season playing single hig at one of
Speaker 2: the highest rates in the NFL. They have since transitioned
Speaker 2: to a lot of too high coverage, so I got
Speaker 2: over the last I think it's the last two to
Speaker 2: three weeks, almost fifty six percent of their coverage snaps
Speaker 2: have been in too high coverage. Harrison Junior's numbers versus
Speaker 2: too high eighteen point six percent target chair one point
Speaker 2: four or five yards per route run. I have Marvin
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior this week as my wide receiver twenty seven.
Speaker 1: I'm going to predict right now that Marvin Harrison Junior
Speaker 1: is our most discussed player in the off season because
Speaker 1: I am just so curious where he's going to be
Speaker 1: ranked for twenty two. I mean, he has two games
Speaker 1: this season over sixty four receiving yards and they were
Speaker 1: both well, you know, one hundred and eleven and one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty. But in the week's three he doesn't
Speaker 1: score a touchdown, and everybody relies in touchdowns two degree,
Speaker 1: in the weeks three he doesn't score a touchdown. He
Speaker 1: hasn't just been disappointed, he's been unplayable. The yard age
Speaker 1: and the catches just aren't there. So he's so talented
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: To that point where this is not a Marvin Harrison
Speaker 2: Junior problem. This is a Drew Petsig problem. This is
Speaker 2: a usage problem, this is a route tree problem. This
Speaker 2: is not his ability to get open problem. So I
Speaker 2: think this is where one of the off season things
Speaker 2: where the Cardinals really have to take a hard look
Speaker 2: and say, look, we need to use this guy different.
Speaker 2: We are not utilizing him to the best of his
Speaker 2: abilities and his skill set. So really, the way that
Speaker 2: I'm going to follow on that the entire like what
Speaker 2: I've said the entire season and what I'm saying the
Speaker 2: off season, is the OC's got to do a better
Speaker 2: job of doing his freaking job. If he does that,
Speaker 2: then Marvin Rrison Junior plays better.
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw out another question from a player
Speaker 1: in this game. Kenneth Walker fits has only rushed for
Speaker 1: seventy plus yards once since Week four. Is there any
Speaker 1: cause for concern here?
Speaker 3: Yes, because the Seahawks offensive line isn't very good. PFF
Speaker 3: grades them twenty sixth in run blocking and the Seattle
Speaker 3: offensive line is twenty ninth in adjusted line yards. So
Speaker 3: I'm not that worried about Kenneth Walker himself. I really
Speaker 3: like the player. I'm worried about what's in front of him.
Speaker 2: Debro, I'm worried about it twofold, well, actually three three
Speaker 2: different things. I'm worried about. The offensive line is terrible
Speaker 2: like that. That has been the problem for really this
Speaker 2: entire offense. I mean, it's been the problem with why
Speaker 2: Gino has been a roller coaster. It's been the problem
Speaker 2: why Kenneth Walker can't get loose, his per touch metrics,
Speaker 2: his mistackle force rate has been otherworldly this year. He
Speaker 2: just what's he supposed to do when he gets the
Speaker 2: ball in his hands and he's got two three defenders
Speaker 2: in his face already. But the other part about this
Speaker 2: is I'm worried about Kenneth Walker even playing this week
Speaker 2: limited practice to open a week on Thursday, he was
Speaker 2: a DMP, so anybody listening to this needs to be
Speaker 2: picking up Zach Scharbonay. Look for him in your waiver wires.
Speaker 2: But even if Kenneth Walker does play, I think we
Speaker 2: see more Sharbonay and I don't know how they're doing it.
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of voodoo magic Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 2: has going on with this defense, because if you look
Speaker 2: at the just the depth chart, Bro, they shouldn't be
Speaker 2: playing as good as they're doing, but they're doing it.
Speaker 2: Since week eight, they've a lot of the six fewest
Speaker 2: rushing yards per game and the seventh and lowest yards
Speaker 2: are to contact per attempt. So I'm worried on multiple
Speaker 2: levels even if Walker plays this week.
Speaker 1: Chargers at Chiefs. Before we get to the key question
Speaker 1: for Sunday Night's matchup, I want to ask you guys
Speaker 1: about your Uber Eats Sunday Night Meals of the Week debro.
Speaker 1: What must order food to get to you? Reaching for
Speaker 1: your Uber Eats app for great Game Day deals? When
Speaker 1: do you think of Kansas City?
Speaker 2: This was easy, boys, this was easy. It's burn ins.
Speaker 2: It has to be burn ins. It's gonna be burn in.
Speaker 2: There's no way that I'm walking into Kansas City and
Speaker 2: I'm not walking out of it with my stomach full
Speaker 2: of meat that is slathered in barbecue sauce. That has
Speaker 2: to happen.
Speaker 1: I think that's a totally fair answer. Here fits. What
Speaker 1: are you going with?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean burnt ends is my go to when
Speaker 3: I go to Arthur Bryant's. And I'm a big I've
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time in Kansas City, so this
Speaker 3: question is near and dear to my heart.
Speaker 4: My dad used to live there.
Speaker 3: But actually, I know it's sacrilege, but I'm not going
Speaker 3: with barbecue. There's a place in Kansas City called Strouds
Speaker 3: that has the best fried chicken I have ever had
Speaker 3: in my life. Pan fried chicken at Strouds. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not even a big fried chicken guy, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't make.
Speaker 4: It in my house.
Speaker 3: I rarely, if ever go to like Popeyes or KFC,
Speaker 3: but Strouds is just to die for and man like,
Speaker 3: they're gravy too at Strouds that you put on their
Speaker 3: mashed potatoes. They do this thing where they after they
Speaker 3: pull the chicken out of the deep fryer, they let
Speaker 3: it cool on this grating and they collect the little
Speaker 3: bits that flake off from underneath the grating and dump
Speaker 3: it into the gravy. They call them the cracklings. Those
Speaker 3: are the little batter pieces. Oh man, this Strouds is
Speaker 3: like a once in a lifetime eating experience. You have
Speaker 3: to go there if if you like good old American food.
Speaker 2: Man, Strouds is amazing of the country, Like good fried
Speaker 2: chicken is almost like like a delicacy. Man Like, that's
Speaker 2: that's probably like like Haley's common right fit.
Speaker 3: See yeah, I mean like well, Chicago, I mean there
Speaker 3: are there are some good fried chicken places in Chicago,
Speaker 3: no question about it.
Speaker 4: But Strouds, man, like, there's nothing like it.
Speaker 2: Making me hungry.
Speaker 1: You gotta go barbecue. When you're talking Kansas City, I
Speaker 1: would actually have picked ribs, regardless of with uh with
Speaker 1: with what dera went with the burnt ends. I prefer
Speaker 1: ribs anyway. I don't get ribs that often, but whatever
Speaker 1: I do, I'm like, I should get ribs more. These
Speaker 1: are great. And I really haven't spent any time in
Speaker 1: Kansas City, but obviously I know they're known for that,
Speaker 1: and I would love to get just a great rack
Speaker 1: of ribs in Kansas City. So there you have it.
Speaker 1: Our Uber Eats Sunday Night meals of the week Strouds,
Speaker 1: fried chicken, burnt ends, and ribs, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: sounds like a great spread at a viewing party of
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. So anybody in Kansas City you should
Speaker 1: order some on Uber Eats, which now has the best
Speaker 1: game day deals all season long. Order now for game day.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, on this game, really really fun game.
Speaker 1: I think I'm excited to watch this one. Did we
Speaker 1: learn anything about either of these backfields last week, the
Speaker 1: Chargers in their first week without Dobbins or the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in their first week with Pacheco back deeper, I'll start
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: Both these backfields are freaking mess, dude. That's that's what
Speaker 2: I take away from both of them. Like it's it's
Speaker 2: dart throws, it's dice rolls. Like Pachecko played thirty seven
Speaker 2: percent of the snaps, he split evenly the rushing snaps,
Speaker 2: and he only got twenty five percent of the red
Speaker 2: zone carries. I think that looking at the Kansas City backfield,
Speaker 2: I do believe Pachecko's gonna get more work this week.
Speaker 2: I think the red zone role kind of flips, either
Speaker 2: it's split between him and Hunt or he takes over
Speaker 2: the red zone role. So I'm probably gonna be a
Speaker 2: little bit higher, Like where's Pacheco at in consensus right now?
Speaker 1: Worm, Yeah, he's RB twenty four in half PPR ECR.
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna move him up a few spots depending
Speaker 2: on that, because I could see him taking over the
Speaker 2: red zone role. The Chargers have been an abysmal run defense,
Speaker 2: like they started off the year being amazing and now
Speaker 2: they have fallen off like massively, like this looks like
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley's run defense over the last few weeks. So Pachecko,
Speaker 2: I think, does lead them. I don't want to play
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt because the thesis behind Hunt has been volume
Speaker 2: and not efficiency, and now the volume is going away,
Speaker 2: and I think the red zone role goes to Pacheco
Speaker 2: this week. And I don't want to play anybody from
Speaker 2: the freaking Chargers backfield, Like Gus has no gas left
Speaker 2: in the tank, none, and I think that there's only
Speaker 2: a certain amount, like at some point Jim Harbon and
Speaker 2: Greg Rohlman have to look in the mirror and say, okay, like,
Speaker 2: at what point are we going to continue to do
Speaker 2: this and hope that Gus Edwards is going to look
Speaker 2: better when he doesn't look good and he looks like
Speaker 2: a player on his last legs in the NFL. And
Speaker 2: at what point are we going to give the backfield
Speaker 2: to Kamani Videl. I think it happens this week, but
Speaker 2: I can't tell you that with any amount of certainty.
Speaker 2: I don't want to play his Gus Edwards because it's
Speaker 2: literally two yards and a cloud of dust, and he
Speaker 2: does not play on passing downs. So I don't want
Speaker 2: to start anybody from the Chargers. If you have to
Speaker 2: start anybody at all from this backfield, it's Kamani Videll
Speaker 2: as a dart throw in the dark, but it's really nobody.
Speaker 1: Fits Isaiah pa Checko RB twenty four, Gus Edwards RB
Speaker 1: twenty eight, Kareem Hunt RB thirty, Kamani Vadell RB forty one.
Speaker 1: Just kind of a mess of those backfields here. Like
Speaker 1: Deebro said, how are you approaching the situation for both teams?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think we know the Kareem isn't
Speaker 3: going to hold off Isaiah Pichecko much longer. They pretty
Speaker 3: much split work down the middle last week, but it
Speaker 3: was Pitchecko's first came back from that leg injury. Not
Speaker 3: surprised that the Chiefs with only one loss, they have
Speaker 3: the luxury of sort of easing Pacheck go back in action.
Speaker 3: But you could see that Pitchecko's just ten times the
Speaker 3: player Kareem Haunt is. So I think, like I just
Speaker 3: bet an under on Kareem Haunt's rushing yardage which was
Speaker 3: only a like thirty three and a half. But I
Speaker 3: think it's going to be more the Pchecko show this week,
Speaker 3: Like I'll be surprised if Kareem Hunt sees double digit carries.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and then I totally agree with de Bro
Speaker 3: like Gus Edwards just doesn't have much juice. And we
Speaker 3: didn't really get to see too much from the Chargers
Speaker 3: running game last week at all. It was just sort
Speaker 3: of a weird game for them. They ran very few
Speaker 3: offensive plays in that game against the Falcons. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's clear Gus does not have much left in the tank,
Speaker 3: and I do think it's inevitable that we see more
Speaker 3: of Kamani Badell.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Monday Night Football to wrap things up,
Speaker 1: Bengal at Cowboys. I want to ask about Rico Dawdell
Speaker 1: and T. Higgins, who are very close to each other
Speaker 1: in our ECR Flex rankings, two spots apart in the
Speaker 1: Flex rankings right now. In fact, the only player between
Speaker 1: them is Garendo. Ironically, but of Rico Dowell and T. Higgins,
Speaker 1: who do we like better for their matchup on Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football fits, I'll start with you.
Speaker 3: Oh, Higgins, give me the stud wide receiver in the
Speaker 3: high flying offense like It's great that the Cowboys do
Speaker 3: now seem fully committed to Dowble as their lead running back.
Speaker 3: He's had forty one carries in his last two games.
Speaker 3: In the matchup against the Bengals isn't bad at all,
Speaker 3: but this is not a high flying Dallas offense, so
Speaker 3: the offensive line isn't at full strength now with Zach
Speaker 3: Martin out for the year.
Speaker 4: I prefer T. Higgins.
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily surprised, you said, Higgins. I was a
Speaker 1: little surprised with how much conviction you had because that
Speaker 1: will obviously coming off a strong game, and the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: has at least a reputation of being a very poor
Speaker 1: run defense this year. They've been pretty good in some matchups,
Speaker 1: but they've also been pretty terrible in others. Are kind
Speaker 1: of matchup rating system on fantasypros dot Com does give
Speaker 1: it kind of like a four star matchup for Rico Dawdle,
Speaker 1: whereas Higgins only gets a three star matchup going up
Speaker 1: against Dallas. So again, I'm not surprised that Higgins is higher,
Speaker 1: but I kind of thought they might be a little
Speaker 1: closer in your mind deeper. What do you think?
Speaker 2: I agree with FITZI. I think it's easy tea and
Speaker 2: this isn't shade at ric o'dowdle, Like two things on this.
Speaker 2: Why the hell wasn't ricodoudle this guy the entire season?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like, how many weeks do we need to
Speaker 2: see Zeke run into like two yards in a cloud
Speaker 2: of dust before Dallas was like, oh wow, yeah, ric
Speaker 2: o'dowdell's a better running back. We should use him more.
Speaker 2: We actually wanted to get positive yards when we were
Speaker 2: on the ball. H sounds smart, except it took them
Speaker 2: forever to do it. This comes down to and the
Speaker 2: reason I think this is easy t is that I
Speaker 2: worry with Dallas that the game script and everything goes sideways,
Speaker 2: like if Cincinnati comes out and they absolutely just truck
Speaker 2: stick them. That's where I worry. Does this become a
Speaker 2: blowout game? And do we see Rico not playing much
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter because Dallas is just kind of
Speaker 2: closed up shop. So that's where it's not the matchup.
Speaker 2: The matchup is freaking fantastic. If I was Dallas and
Speaker 2: I was McCarthy, I'd say, look, at some point, you
Speaker 2: need to wake up and realize Cooper Rush is not
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. Stop running a fast, high paced offense and
Speaker 2: throwing the freaking ball as much as you are, and
Speaker 2: realize that you need to run the ball and you
Speaker 2: need to try to sit here and play keep away
Speaker 2: from some of these offenses and use your running back
Speaker 2: and lean on this bad run defense. I don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of faith in McCarthy to do that, so
Speaker 2: I worry since he gets out to a big lead
Speaker 2: and this becomes a blowout and that can limit Rico's
Speaker 2: volume in this matchup.
Speaker 1: Fitz correct me if I'm wrong or if this has
Speaker 1: been updated since. But it looks like your most recent
Speaker 1: updated Flex rankings on the site. You do have them,
Speaker 1: just one spot a part. So is that something where
Speaker 1: you expect to your final rankings will have a wider
Speaker 1: gap there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they should not be one spot apart. I agree,
Speaker 4: we prefer Higgins.
Speaker 1: That's fair there. That guy said only two spots part
Speaker 1: in ECR, but we definitely it sounds like like Higgins
Speaker 1: much more. We will wrap up there. Thank you everybody
Speaker 1: for tuning in. This is the last kind of full
Speaker 1: show before the Fantasy playoffs are determined in a lot
Speaker 1: of leagues, so you know, I hope we can help
Speaker 1: you get over the hump if you are fighting for
Speaker 1: that final playoff spot. If you do have more questions
Speaker 1: than just you know, you're putting kind of everything into
Speaker 1: this week to try and get into the playoffs. You know,
Speaker 1: we are on Discord, Debro, Fits also ericson a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of other folks, have AMA channels on there are
Speaker 1: also on Twitter everywhere on social media, so feel free
Speaker 1: keep asking questions. We'll have live streams on YouTube as
Speaker 1: well for a final kind of day of morning of
Speaker 1: start sit decision. So we are here to help you
Speaker 1: get into the Fantasy playoffs. Best of luck this week
Speaker 1: for everyone, especially if you're facing one of those many
Speaker 1: players who went off last night. For Fits and Debro
Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Warmley. Thanks everybody for tuning in. We'll see
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