Speaker 1: Welcome to an own edition of the official Jet podcast,
Speaker 1: The Draft Podcast, presented by PEPSI. The Draft is over
Speaker 1: Ethan E. A. Becktam Coleman on the other side of
Speaker 1: the bed MGM studio. The Jets started with ten picks.
Speaker 1: They shuffled around. They still have ten picks. That's how
Speaker 1: they end up the two thousand twenty one NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious what everyone thinks of the draft class
Speaker 1: as a whole. Let's start with I'm worried about your
Speaker 1: mental well being. What you love the draft. I love
Speaker 1: that this is one of your favorite weekends of the year.
Speaker 1: Might be the top weekend of all. The draft. The
Speaker 1: first padded practice of training camp is right up there, too,
Speaker 1: but the draft is definitely I think it's up there.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be one a for me. Yeah, listen, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's an exhausting weekend. But for the New
Speaker 1: York Jets in their France base, they should be enthused
Speaker 1: about what actually transpired over the course of three days.
Speaker 1: Starts with Zach Wilson at number two overall. He will
Speaker 1: be the headliner. He will be the person that we
Speaker 1: will come back to in five, in ten years and
Speaker 1: say how do the Jets do in the draft. While
Speaker 1: it's gonna be largely based on what happens with this
Speaker 1: guy who wore number one at b y you so
Speaker 1: he comes in there and Joe Douglas adds around him
Speaker 1: with the next three picks, and then here on day three,
Speaker 1: we're finishing it up. Here the Jets go final six
Speaker 1: picks with the defensive flavor. I think in all, Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas was very active three trades and like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: a lot of wheeling and dealing, but the Jets still
Speaker 1: finished with ten picks. Another good thing is the Jets
Speaker 1: have a lot of capital for next year's draft that
Speaker 1: you're already looking forward to Green's two first round picks
Speaker 1: in two second round picks, Anthony, your thoughts, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they got a lot of production out of their
Speaker 1: draft this year. I think that, you know, the players
Speaker 1: that they felt like they got have more value than
Speaker 1: the spots that they actually drafted them in, and I
Speaker 1: think that's great, you know, so they really feel good
Speaker 1: as an organization. Uh, I'm gonna make an early prediction.
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be at least five starters out
Speaker 1: of least ten. Uh in in in week one. How
Speaker 1: about that? So that would be unprecedented if you can
Speaker 1: figure that one out and get those guys going. So
Speaker 1: um listen, this team needs competition. Robert Sale has been
Speaker 1: talking about that pretty much all weekend. These guys are
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to compete. And you know, depending
Speaker 1: on who else comes in undrafted free agents. Uh, this
Speaker 1: could be a really, really, really good job by Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas and his staff putting this draft class together. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought they did an excellent job. And when I
Speaker 1: look at the overall draft, I mean, obviously you have
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, Elijah Vera Tucker, but from then on, it's speed, speed, speed,
Speaker 1: and and that's what Robert Salad likes. He loves that speed.
Speaker 1: And you look at the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Two former safeties in Sherwood and uh in nationally. Two
Speaker 1: guys who are big, they're six three, their their long arms,
Speaker 1: they're they're physical, they come down in the box. They
Speaker 1: can cover tight ends. But at the same time they're
Speaker 1: not afraid to come down in the box and lower
Speaker 1: the boom. These guys are gonna transition the linebackers covering
Speaker 1: from sideline to sideline. Then you have the defensive backs
Speaker 1: who who are very agile. You know, they can play
Speaker 1: multiple positions, cornerback, nickel, safety. All these guys are versatile. Uh.
Speaker 1: They added a lot of speed this weekend and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be exciting to see them. You know, Coleman, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pinball it back to you and we'll go in
Speaker 1: reverse order. The Jets had seven picks on Day three.
Speaker 1: Is there one person that stands out to you, maybe
Speaker 1: not even as a player, but a pick that you
Speaker 1: particularly like and you kind of alluded to it, I
Speaker 1: think with Sherwood and Nasrel Dean. But if you used
Speaker 1: to go in a different direction, that's fine. If you
Speaker 1: want to go in the same direction, that's fine as well. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm a love Sherwood. I well, I like Jason Pinnock
Speaker 1: as well. You know, the corner out of pit this
Speaker 1: is a great cover corner. Hey, he did a great
Speaker 1: job of of getting stops getting off the field. He
Speaker 1: traveled around the field covering their best receiver. They played
Speaker 1: a lot of man to man coverage. We all know,
Speaker 1: and this defense, there's gonna be a lot of single
Speaker 1: high You're gonna play a lot of man to man.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some cover three. Uh, you know, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to mix things up. So getting a cornerback
Speaker 1: like Jason Pinnock is gonna be a big addition to
Speaker 1: your defense. What about you, Anthony? Yeah, man, look it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Surewood. I just listen. I think he's a
Speaker 1: Day one starter. I really do believe that. Uh there,
Speaker 1: there's was a lot of buzz about him, you know,
Speaker 1: not today, like before the draft started, and they got
Speaker 1: him right, So, uh, they know something about this kid
Speaker 1: that's gonna fit, and it's all about fit. It's all
Speaker 1: about what they can what a kid can do for
Speaker 1: the system. And uh so listen, you know he played
Speaker 1: as much as two thirty at Auburn, you know, playing
Speaker 1: his position. He you're gonna come down and play a
Speaker 1: little bit of that hybrid backer whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it. But uh, power strength, heavy hitter. I mentioned it,
Speaker 1: you know earlier today. You know, thirty four inch arms,
Speaker 1: which is the longest arm length in fifteen years of
Speaker 1: the draft of any dB. So you know he's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to go up and contest balls versus you
Speaker 1: know some of these bigger athletic basketball style tight ends.
Speaker 1: You know, that are in the league right now, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, look, I want to see what he's got.
Speaker 1: What you know we need. We need those components on
Speaker 1: the field speed side to side, coming downhill and be
Speaker 1: able to cover. You have to have that package because
Speaker 1: that's the kind of defense that you know this team
Speaker 1: wants and needs. I think I know who he's gonna say,
Speaker 1: but go for it. I'm going Michael curR Yeah. Just
Speaker 1: for the record, I'm also going Michael Carter. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you might be taking the guy from Duke. I will say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right in the research triangles, staying right
Speaker 1: there and say Michael car because I see parallels to
Speaker 1: what happened to the Jets on Day two of the
Speaker 1: draft where they were crossing their fingers. Elijah Moore was
Speaker 1: there and sure enough was it thirty four. Then we
Speaker 1: enter day three and here we go again and they
Speaker 1: get Michael Carter in. You need offensive weapons to win
Speaker 1: in the National football it does start up front, but
Speaker 1: this guy can do it in all phases. He fellas
Speaker 1: this stat is just ridiculous. Thirty three abated tackles, third
Speaker 1: most in the FBS. Last year, he rushed for more
Speaker 1: than yards eight yards per carry. He made it happen
Speaker 1: big time. Um, maybe he's not the fastest guy in
Speaker 1: the forty yard dash, but he is a big play
Speaker 1: waiting to happen. And he is an a depth receiver.
Speaker 1: He's also sturdy as a blocker as well. He's gonna
Speaker 1: fit in awfully well in this outside zone running schemes. So,
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, were you gonna add while you had a
Speaker 1: piece up front and Elijah vera tucker, then you get um,
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, Elijah squared and then Michael Carter coming back
Speaker 1: in the fourth round and Michael Carter square else. That
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite Joe Douglas lines. He said,
Speaker 1: we're really cornering the market on Elijah's and Michael Carter's
Speaker 1: and and you're right, the Jets did draft another Michael Carter.
Speaker 1: But my favorite selection of Day three was the U
Speaker 1: n C running back. I mean we saw he saw
Speaker 1: the highlights just a moment ago. I mean you can
Speaker 1: really see the vision and the stop startability, that's what
Speaker 1: he talked about. And I think you hit the nail
Speaker 1: on the head. I think he fits what the Jets
Speaker 1: want to run here extremely well. And this this game
Speaker 1: UNC against Miami is when Javonte Williams and Michael Carter
Speaker 1: both ran extremely wild and six point three yards of pop.
Speaker 1: For his career at U n C, he has an
Speaker 1: outstanding career there, and he's a solid receiver out of
Speaker 1: the actfield. But this is really what I would consider
Speaker 1: like chapter two. In the off season. There's chapter one,
Speaker 1: which is free agency, the draft is chapter two. Now
Speaker 1: comes chapter three, which is, you know a little more
Speaker 1: trickle of free agency here and there, and then training
Speaker 1: camp and developing your players. So Anthony, let's start with you,
Speaker 1: then we'll go to e C. What do you think
Speaker 1: about the way that this roster is coming together when
Speaker 1: you think about where it was before free agency. Now
Speaker 1: we're two thirds of the way home to training camp,
Speaker 1: and it seems like this roster has been overhauled by
Speaker 1: a considerable amount, more than I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought could be possible. Yeah, you know, uh another
Speaker 1: thinking about Michael Carter, Guys, he's split the carries. I mean,
Speaker 1: he may have had over two thousand yards rushing by
Speaker 1: himself if he was the lead back. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: roster is great. I mean, listen, Carl Lawson, he's a
Speaker 1: unicorn pass rusher. He can do a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Uh led one of the leaders in the NFL and
Speaker 1: quarterback pressures. Corey Davis. You know, he's a top five
Speaker 1: draft pick, blew up last year, earned his spot. Now
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a one. Uh. Jared Dave this. You know,
Speaker 1: he's another guy that you know. He's an into box
Speaker 1: linebacker that's aggressive, speed, fast. He's gonna be able to
Speaker 1: control the inside, and he's gonna add a presence there
Speaker 1: at the linebacker position. Rankings. Uh. Coming coming back from
Speaker 1: the injury two years ago, bouncing back last year, getting
Speaker 1: back to form, they feel like they got a home
Speaker 1: run in him at the d line position. And you
Speaker 1: go on and on and on. I mean, even from
Speaker 1: a standpoint of Justin Hardy just a tremendous You know,
Speaker 1: he's a corner. He's feisty to do like literally loves
Speaker 1: special teams like he he even said it in his
Speaker 1: president He's like, man, you just he just loves playing it.
Speaker 1: And you gotta have those kind of guys. Man, boy's
Speaker 1: gonna love to have him. You're gonna need a spark plug.
Speaker 1: Some of us other players are gonna feed off him
Speaker 1: because he's he plays it at such a high level.
Speaker 1: So again I'm excited and we have you know, we're
Speaker 1: just talking in the draft picks altogether. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a brand new team. It's a brand new team. It
Speaker 1: all starts, of course with a quarterback, but again, it
Speaker 1: takes some of the pressure off the quarterback when you
Speaker 1: start adding those pieces and put them in place. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and you you talk about the rest of the roster,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone, it's easy to forget about C. J. Mosley.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, this guy was one of the most
Speaker 1: dominant linebackers a couple of years ago. Played We talked
Speaker 1: about it over the week and played some of the
Speaker 1: three of the best quarters. We see that a linebacker
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen. But you know he's coming back
Speaker 1: into the fold. You know, you you have a lot
Speaker 1: of young guys. You have Quentin Williams, who was dominant
Speaker 1: last year, should have been a pro bowler. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you're adding these other pieces. LaMarcus Joiner is the safety
Speaker 1: who can come down in the box, cover slot receivers.
Speaker 1: You add him with Marcus May and the secondary. You know,
Speaker 1: I just you just can't help but get excited about
Speaker 1: all the speed that you see, all the agility that
Speaker 1: you have in this defense. And then on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball, of course you got backed in already.
Speaker 1: Then you had vera Tucker. You you know, the offensive
Speaker 1: line is getting solidified. It's gonna be very exciting to
Speaker 1: see how this team comes out, especially once coach Sala
Speaker 1: starts to get his mentality, trying to get that aggression
Speaker 1: into the players. Team is really young, which is good.
Speaker 1: I think it's a double edged sword. It can be good,
Speaker 1: but you're also going to have a learning process. Right.
Speaker 1: The Jets, of course won two games last year, and
Speaker 1: Anthony talked about an infusion of talent and how this
Speaker 1: roster has been We've seen a complete overhaul. I'm wondering
Speaker 1: as I listened to you guys talk, and then we
Speaker 1: take into consideration everything that's changed on the roster, do
Speaker 1: you start thinking about what this team is capable of.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking third team wins all this stuff, but
Speaker 1: you know, seventeen games schedule next year, we don't know,
Speaker 1: we know the opponents, we don't know what that's gonna
Speaker 1: be looking like. But why can't this team, if it
Speaker 1: all comes together, um be in the mix as far
Speaker 1: as being around more like five. Is that jump so
Speaker 1: significant international football nowadays, where you see teams make the
Speaker 1: turn every year. Can the Jets be one of those
Speaker 1: teams that can get themselves into more in the middle
Speaker 1: of wrong in the National Football League as opposed to
Speaker 1: where they ended the season last year. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's far fetched, especially when you consider the caliber of
Speaker 1: players the Jets abroad. And I will say, like for
Speaker 1: someone like Carl Lawson, he only had five and a
Speaker 1: half sacks last year, but he had a he led
Speaker 1: the NFL and quarterback pressures among defensive linemen. So for
Speaker 1: a guy like that, you're hoping you buy stock before
Speaker 1: they really take off. No Jet pun intended. And so
Speaker 1: with guys like that, I mean, Corey Davis hasn't had
Speaker 1: in a thousand yards season, but you look at his
Speaker 1: track record, seems like he's an ascending player. Seems like
Speaker 1: all the players the Jets signed are ascending players, except
Speaker 1: for maybe somebody like Vinny Curry who's later on in
Speaker 1: his career. But I really think that the Jets have
Speaker 1: completely overhauled this auster and it feels like Joe Douglas
Speaker 1: really putting his imprint on this team more so than
Speaker 1: last season because he didn't quite have the financial flexibility
Speaker 1: in the Capitol in the draft that he did this year.
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm excited to see to see what happens
Speaker 1: and the last thing that I want to say and
Speaker 1: or the last thing I want to do before we
Speaker 1: wrap up here. And I'm curious because we have two
Speaker 1: former NFL players across the way here. This is a
Speaker 1: draft recap. What's next for all these rookies. I know
Speaker 1: there's rookie Minicamp, but you know, can you kind of
Speaker 1: take us through, Let's start with Coleman, what happens when
Speaker 1: you get the playbook, and then take us through what
Speaker 1: is a rookie season and what many college players consider
Speaker 1: and rookies consider the longest years of their lives. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, as a rookie, it is the longest year.
Speaker 1: You know, you finish your college season, you go to
Speaker 1: your bowl, and then you start preparing for the Combine
Speaker 1: for your pro day, and then you get if you're
Speaker 1: fortunate enough, you get drafted, you get signed as a
Speaker 1: free agent, and then this rookie minicamp. You know, we
Speaker 1: heard coach talking about earlier rookie Minicamp is next week.
Speaker 1: You know, you come in here, you learn the fundamentals
Speaker 1: of the defense or the offense. You get your playbook.
Speaker 1: You're doing nothing but studying. You're you're diving into that
Speaker 1: book because if you don't know, you can't go and
Speaker 1: you have to know what you want to You have
Speaker 1: to know what you're doing once you get out here,
Speaker 1: once the veterans come in, listen, if you're a rookie
Speaker 1: right now, this is your this is your time to
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. Because everyone's starting off in the
Speaker 1: same area. You know, the veterans, they don't know this defense,
Speaker 1: they don't know the offense. It's a new scheme for everyone.
Speaker 1: And so if you're a rookie, if you put your
Speaker 1: mind to it, you study now you can start playing
Speaker 1: with the big boys. You get in there and get
Speaker 1: your opportunities to start making a difference in training camp,
Speaker 1: in mini camp, and next thing you know, you're in
Speaker 1: the season, going full speed and uh and you're in
Speaker 1: the mix. College is over right. I mean it's literally,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a it's a punch you on a
Speaker 1: phase kind of moment. I talked about it earlier, but
Speaker 1: it really is like you have to mature yourself at
Speaker 1: a different level. You have to be ready to become
Speaker 1: a pro now because there are expectation levels on younger players.
Speaker 1: The league right now is a younger league, and and
Speaker 1: you see younger players having a lot of success across
Speaker 1: the NFL. The Jets have to have that kind of
Speaker 1: output from their younger players, and at their most key position.
Speaker 1: You know, there's been a tremendous amount of rookie quarterbacks
Speaker 1: coming in playing some good ball, and I'll be quite
Speaker 1: honest with you, I expect that out of Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know that that that's gonna be the
Speaker 1: biggest play on this is getting these guys have to
Speaker 1: make a commitment to professionalism. Because a coach can coach,
Speaker 1: They can give you everything, all the information you need.
Speaker 1: But if you aren't dialed in to say, Okay, I
Speaker 1: got all this money in the bank, put that here.
Speaker 1: Get dialed in on the field, note after note, detail
Speaker 1: after detail, put it all into play. If you don't
Speaker 1: do it like like Eric was talking about, you will fail.
Speaker 1: Bottom line, you cannot cut corners, in particular when you're
Speaker 1: a younger player, because if you do, you fall behind
Speaker 1: and if you start falling behind it. Every single day,
Speaker 1: somebody's gaining on you. Somebody's getting and it may not
Speaker 1: be the guy in the building. It may be the
Speaker 1: guy in Miami and maybe the guy in New England
Speaker 1: or wherever team that those guys are. So it's just
Speaker 1: so critical for for young players to really just you
Speaker 1: gotta grow up, period. And Joe talked about the character
Speaker 1: of these guys. I expect those kind of guys. You
Speaker 1: hear about work ethic, you hear about leadership from these players,
Speaker 1: then I would expect them to do those small things
Speaker 1: and learn how to get better at those things from
Speaker 1: some of the veteran players in the building, so that
Speaker 1: this team, like you said our e A, can be
Speaker 1: much better than than last year in the year before.
Speaker 1: But I look more of a three year outlook for
Speaker 1: this team, Okay, because for me, it's the first year
Speaker 1: get growing. Next year all those draft picks, and now
Speaker 1: another year for them to grow. I look at a
Speaker 1: three year window with this could be honestly the most
Speaker 1: improved team in the NFL. Yeah. The sobering thought and
Speaker 1: all this is that I think every team in the
Speaker 1: NFC East has gotten better this offseason. We saw that
Speaker 1: what the Buffalo Bills did last year. They were thirteen
Speaker 1: and three, I believe, and they want to defeat in
Speaker 1: the division. The Patriots spend a boatload. They spend a
Speaker 1: boatload of money in free agency, um, so I think
Speaker 1: they definitely improved as well. And then Miami speaking about assets,
Speaker 1: that's a team that had assets that was on parallel
Speaker 1: with the New York Jets. So I think all those teams,
Speaker 1: on paper, at least are did not take a step
Speaker 1: back here this offseason. And we've talked about this in
Speaker 1: the pre draft process. Was every team the National Football
Speaker 1: League feels better after draft weekend. But I think from
Speaker 1: a Jet perspective Anthony just mentioned it is that you
Speaker 1: are installing new systems. But the great thing defensively is
Speaker 1: Robert Sale Jeff Albert's gonna keep it simple. They're gonna
Speaker 1: attack the quarterback. They're gonna play that four or three,
Speaker 1: and they want those guys running all over the place.
Speaker 1: We saw that attack in free agency along that defensive line,
Speaker 1: namely Carl Lawson. But they added strength in numbers. Now
Speaker 1: we see what they're looking for in the linebackers. Right,
Speaker 1: we saw that in the draft. You're good at safety cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: You added an infusion of talent here on Day three
Speaker 1: of the draft. On the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: All the talk is gonna be about Zack Wilson, but
Speaker 1: I think the system that Michael Flour is going to
Speaker 1: run is going to be very helpful for a rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback because the Jets are gonna try to pound you
Speaker 1: with the run game. Then do the boots and the
Speaker 1: rolls and get this athletic kid out on the move
Speaker 1: and he's comfortable doing that, and you've gotten a lot
Speaker 1: better around him with at the receiver position starting at
Speaker 1: free agency. Then you had Elijah More in the draft.
Speaker 1: You're bringing Michael Carter in the draft behind you in
Speaker 1: the offensive backfield, and it all starts up front and
Speaker 1: you have two pieces infected and Elijah Vera Tucker. Elijah
Speaker 1: Vera Tucker. As as I was looking at my phone,
Speaker 1: I think my wife just called me here on the podcast.
Speaker 1: But um, big time pieces in front of your young quarterback.
Speaker 1: So right now it's getting it on the field and
Speaker 1: then absorbing those new systems and Robert sala Era is
Speaker 1: is taken off right now. The NFL Draft came, it
Speaker 1: went the Jets got ten players, headlined by Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: of course at the number two overall, pick E A
Speaker 1: and I will be back. We can't thank Anthony and
Speaker 1: Eric Coleman enough for being here live all three days
Speaker 1: in the bed MGM studio. That's all we have on
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