1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan mink 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are here to break 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: down the ravens twenty six to twenty three loss to 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders at the home opener at M 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: and T Banks Stadium. 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Definitely a disappointing loss for the Ravens. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: They followed at zero to two for the first time 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen in a game that certainly none of 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: us expected the Ravens are thought that the Ravens are 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: going to lose, especially when they had a ten point 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter. 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this was a game where the Ravens 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: were heavy favorites coming into the game, and then when 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: you you know, it's back and forth, kind of a 15 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: low scoring affair in that first half, and then all 16 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: of a sudden, the Ravens seem like they put it 17 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: together early. They marched down the field on the opening 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: drive of that second half, and then they get another 19 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: touchdown with Derek Henry late and you're like, okay, okay, 20 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: there's a little scare there, but the offense figuring it out, 21 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: and you're going to go into this game. You're going 22 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: to go into next week one on one and feeling 23 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: pretty good about the team. And you know, the storyline 24 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: at that point feel like is the running game gets 25 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: a going wears them down to the second half. That's 26 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: the thought. That's the thought. 27 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I had the leads to my story written. 28 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: It was, you know, the Ravens brought Derek Henry to 29 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: Baltimore to be the finisher, and he finished off the Raiders, 30 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: who were pesky throughout much of the game, but they 31 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: leaned on him in the second half, finished him off. 32 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: Yep, and it felt like it was going that way 33 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: and the Ravens again, they had this ten point lead, 34 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: and then it was basically a variety of airs on 35 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. You know, the offense wasn't 36 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: able to extend drives to run the clock and then 37 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: keep the Raiders off the field, and the defense wasn't 38 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: able to get a critical stop and those big moments 39 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: when they needed to do it, and the Raiders moved 40 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: the ball in the fourth quarter and it cost him. 41 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: I mean that that's what cost the Ravens in this game. 42 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. I asked a. 43 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: Few players this question after the game. You know, how 44 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: does this feel loss? Feel different? From the one in 45 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Kansas City, and I got the sense there was more 46 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: anger after the loss. In case that was an angry 47 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: locker room after that one. You know, you lose by 48 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: a toe. You know, you're you're angry about all the officials, 49 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: calls that went against you, all that you're angry about 50 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: losing the Chiefs again, right, this was I sense more disappointment, 51 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: you know. 52 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,279 Speaker 3: I mean, and I would say a little bit more shock, yeah. 53 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: And I think more shock. 54 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: You know. 55 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Also, coming out of the KC loss, you could at 56 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: least take some solace in the fact that you went 57 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: toe to toe with the two time defending champions in 58 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: their building. 59 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's. 60 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: Opening night, you know, you you literally went toe to 61 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: toe with them and lost by a toe. This one 62 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: your heavy favorites in this game and at home in 63 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: your home open yeah. Right, And so it's a different feeling. 64 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: Now there's some of the same storylines, you know, calls 65 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: that went against you, a couple of which really impactful calls, 66 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: really three of which which we'll get into. But the 67 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: feeling after this one was more that you beat yourself, right, 68 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: And that's what Ronnie Stanley said quite clearly that they 69 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: feel like they just beat themselves in this game. It 70 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: wasn't that the refs beat them or whatever. And you 71 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: can complain about some of those, but they beat themselves, right. 72 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: You turn the ball over, you have an interception, you make, 73 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: you have some bad penalties. Uh you know, you have 74 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: false starts there down the stretch. I me And it 75 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: came down in the fourth quarter to two offensive drives 76 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: that went bad, the first of which they have a 77 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: third and one and they have a false start that 78 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: puts them back and they don't convert. Yeah, right, three 79 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: and out on that one. And then and. 80 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: There was like six minutes left at that point of 81 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: the game. 82 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Well there's seven, Yeah, a little over seven, but yeah, 83 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: and then the offense only had after Derek Henry scored 84 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: that touchdown to put them up ten, the only the 85 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: offense only had two drives. 86 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: Then the second one. 87 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Got blown up by a sacked by Max Crosby on 88 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: first down. 89 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: They had a third drive there at the end of 90 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: the game. 91 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: Desperate, that's correct, the desperation drive of the game. 92 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, it was. It was desperation time. 93 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: You have to go all the way down the field with. 94 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: They almost got it. 95 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: They almost actually hit it to Isaiah likely but didn't. 96 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I mean a lot of things I 97 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: think the Ravens can go look back on. Mean the 98 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker miss, There's the two challenges that didn't work 99 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: out which cost the Ravens two timeouts that certainly would 100 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: have been useful in this game. There's just a number 101 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: of plays. There's the shank punt by Jordan Stout there 102 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: at the end. There's too many plays that add up 103 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: that say, man, you beat yourself in this game as 104 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: opposed to the Raiders, and you do have to tip 105 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: your cat to the Raiders to some degree. They're two 106 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: best players who both basically got rave reviews from the 107 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: Ravens all week and got called game wreckers. 108 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: Davante Adams and Max Crosby wreck the game. 109 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Max Crosby was really unblockable for much 110 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: of the game, and when it seemed like when they 111 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: needed a big moment, when they needed a big play 112 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: on defense, he was always Johnny on the spot. He 113 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: comes up with a critical sack to basically ruin that 114 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: drive right before the Raiders get the ball back and 115 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: have the chance to go down to kick a game 116 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 3: winning field goal. I mean, he gets a sack on 117 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: the first player of that drive and now it's second 118 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: and nineteen and the Ravens couldn't climb out of that hole. 119 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: And so you know, it's I think it's disappointing because 120 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: everybody basically talked about with Max Crosby, like, well, look, 121 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: the Raiders have a really good defensive front. Max Crosby 122 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: is the leader of that. He can be a game wrecker. 123 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: All those things. You got to stop him, and the 124 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: Ravens really weren't able to do it. Crosby finished with 125 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: what two sacks on the day. 126 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. But DeVante Adams, I mean, yeah, good about him? 127 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: Well, he catches for a buck ten in the touchdown 128 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: he took over in the fourth quarter. 129 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he took over. 130 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: Well on the drive that ultimately ended with them them 131 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: scoring a touchdown. It was DeVante Adams drive. And even 132 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: the one that he he didn't catch was the long 133 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: play in the end zone which Brandon Stevens got flagged for. 134 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: You know, I know some Ravens fans made out like 135 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: that call. To me, I think it was probably a 136 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: fair call and against DeVante Adams, you're probably going to 137 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: get that flag. Most more often than not, and so 138 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: you know I thought that he Yeah, my point is 139 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: he didn't even get credit for the cat and that 140 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: doesn't show up in the stat sheet. But that was 141 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 3: the huge ar any point of that drive and of 142 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: this game. And so you know they weren't able to. 143 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: Stop either of those seventeen on that play. Yeah, get 144 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: a defensive pass interference call. Now it's first and goal 145 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: from the one. 146 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: Touchdown, which is basically a garant. You know it, got it. 147 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: They functioned in on the first play, yep. So yeah, 148 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: huge play. So let's just go through it. I want 149 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: to start with the offensive play in general, and you know, 150 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: it was sluggish from the start, just didn't really find 151 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: any momentum, did not find any momentum on the ground 152 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: in the first half. Derrick Henry had five yards rushing 153 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: in the first half, yep. And they couldn't run, they 154 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: couldn't block, you know, Max Crosby was wrecking things. 155 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: It was. 156 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: It was a slog in the first half of this team. 157 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: But let's look at the bright side of things here 158 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. They did get it going in the 159 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: second half on the ground, which is, I know we're 160 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: zero and two, right, but when you're looking ahead and saying, 161 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: all right, what are some things that give you belief 162 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: that the Ravens can get out of this hole. They 163 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: did get it going running the ball in the second half. 164 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I'm with you. I think that. I 165 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: mean Derrick Henry again, Like going back to what I 166 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: said off the top, it's like it felt very reminiscent 167 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: in some ways of like what the storyline was for 168 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: the Titans for all those years, which is like keep 169 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: feeding the beast and then ultimately he's gonna wear down 170 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: a defense. And that's how the Titans won a number 171 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: of games during his time in Tennessee, and that's what's 172 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: made him a Hall of Fame running back. And that's 173 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: how it felt. As they continued to give him the 174 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: ball and he was breaking longer runs. He came up 175 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: with a touchdown run on the direct snap, like he 176 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: was he was doing exactly what you stiff arm. We 177 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: got the first highlight reel stiff arm from Derick Henry, 178 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: Like he caught a nice pass, Like he was doing 179 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: all the things that you would expect to see from 180 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,559 Speaker 3: from Derrick Henry who's playing at the top of his game. 181 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: And it felt like it was just going to go 182 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: in that direction. And then really it was those two 183 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: drives that we just kind of went through at the 184 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: end of the fourth quarter where they weren't able to 185 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: get it done. One of them, honestly was in part 186 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: because of the mistake by Henry on the false start. 187 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: He got the false art on the Ravens version of 188 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: the Tush push play where he was lined up in 189 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: the backfield and Charliekher actually got the direct snap and 190 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: he gets called for the fall start and then not 191 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: able to convert. He was he talked in the locker room. 192 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: He just said he was adjusting his leg, kind of 193 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: getting his balance, but he moved and so the reps 194 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: are gonna flag that every time. And you know, I 195 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: don't know, I just feel like it's kind of honestly, 196 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: like when I when I look at this game, it 197 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: feels very reminiscent. Maybe it's the fact that it's the quarterback. 198 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: It feels very similar to me to the Colts game 199 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: last year. It was a game where your big favorites, 200 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: you're at home, it's early in the season, you feel 201 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 3: like there's no way you lose this game. It's kind 202 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: of close early on, but then then you get out 203 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: to a lean like alright, alright, alright, it's okay, okay, 204 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: that was a scare. You avoided that one. And then 205 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Gardner Minshew makes some plays. He's 206 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: a fiery quarterback. He's kind of got a gunsling your mentality. 207 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: And then next thing you know, I'm watching Gardner Minshew, 208 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: you know, do postgame interviews after upsetting the Ravens. It's 209 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: it feels very similar to me. 210 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 2: Right, No, I agree, I agree with that. 211 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: And you know, let's let's go through some of these penalties, 212 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: Like you're talking about a big one on Nomdi Matabique 213 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: for a face mask call on the Raiders first drive 214 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: of first play of their first drive of the fourth quarter. 215 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: So this is the first play after the Ravens take 216 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: a ten point lead. This was a momentum swing in 217 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: my opinion. You know, Minshew sacked for negative eight yards. 218 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: We would have went from a first or second and 219 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: eighteen from the at the twenty two to now first 220 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: and ten. 221 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: At the forty five. Yeah, it's a big call. 222 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: And and that one, I think, if you're going to 223 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: argue any of these penalties, that's probably the one I 224 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: saw play, doesn't he didn't grab. 225 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: His face mask. 226 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw no contact of his face mask. 227 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that that wasn't one of those ones where 228 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: they go to New York and they're like, nah, you know, 229 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: they they kind of delayed, they took their time making 230 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: the announcement. 231 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be one of those. 232 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 233 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: I thought so too. 234 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean they were sitting there talking about it. I'm like, okay, here, 235 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: now the guy comes in on over the ear and says, hey, 236 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: you know, no, no helmet, you didn't get the no 237 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: contact to the face mask. There. We're all good. And 238 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: then they're like, yep, face mask fifteen yards And I 239 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: was blown away that they kept with that, kept with 240 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 3: that call. 241 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: So the Raiders kicked a field goal in that one, 242 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: which cut it to a touchdown lead for the Ravens. 243 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: And then we're talking about the Ravens get the ball 244 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: back after that one and third and one, the false 245 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: starting Derrick Henry that you mentioned. 246 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: They're going to call that every time. 247 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 1: Okay, next drive Raiders come down the field, it's the 248 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: defensive pass interference by Brandon Stevens. And this is another 249 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: one that's going to be I think argued a fair 250 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: amount by online or whatever to me that one. 251 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: Could go either way. 252 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens definitely initiated. He definitely made contact down the field. 253 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Both players then are basically trying to push off each other. 254 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: You know, DeVante Adams also initiated a lot of contact 255 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: on that play. You could easily just say, yeah, those 256 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: are two guys battling for the ball for a fifty 257 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: to fifty ball in that you know, Stevens I think 258 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: turned his head on the play. Hey, he batled the 259 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: ball down, you know exactly, he deflected the pass, so 260 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: you could say he had just as much right to 261 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: it as DeVante Adams did. And both guys are just 262 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: jostling for the ball on the field. Yeah, certainly in 263 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: a big situation, a big game like that. A lot 264 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: of times they swallowed the whistle. This time they didn't. 265 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 2: Then it goes against the Ravens. 266 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and I don't know if that's the it's 267 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: DeVante Adams call. You know, it's like the Star treatment 268 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 3: to a certain effect. But there was contact, like, there 269 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: was contact, and when you have contact in that situation, 270 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: especially against the star receiver, I think you're probably gonna 271 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: get the fly thrown and that's what happened in this situation. 272 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Yep. So then the the Raiders punched it in from 273 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: one yard out on that one. Baltimore then goes three 274 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: and out on their next drive. You know, the sack 275 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: really killed them by Max Crosby. As we as we discussed, 276 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: you just beat Foalle you know, after their in the 277 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: locker room after the game, Lamar Jackson said on podium, Look, 278 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: the protections are right, you know, sometimes you just got 279 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: to win a one on one battle and he's not 280 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: He's correct, Yeah, I mean Max Crosby just looped, you 281 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: know as a game and he came up with start 282 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: on the left side, came inside and he just blew 283 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: by Daniel foule Yea right like. 284 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: You know that play. 285 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of fans are gonna be looking 286 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: at that and piling on Daniel fol Lelea after what 287 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: was an uneven Week one game. And you know, I 288 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: thought Daniel filo lele made some other really good blocks 289 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: throughout this game. 290 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: There's the long completion of the day, Flowers was wide open. 291 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: File Leiley had a really nice sustained block on that 292 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: to buy Lamar Jackson extra time and find him. You know, 293 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: he's going against one of the best pass rushers in 294 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: the league. Look, Daniel foul Allele will be the first 295 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: admit like, he's got to get continue to get better. 296 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: But this is guy playing a second and second football 297 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: game ever at guard and he's going against Max Crosby. 298 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: And yeah, he got beat at a bad time. 299 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a really bad beat at a bad time. 300 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: That's that's part of like the lumps, that's part of 301 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: the the hiccups or whatever that the Ravens are going 302 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: to take with this offensive line unfortunately have with the 303 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: game on the line. 304 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I will say. John Harball was asked 305 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 3: after the game about the offensive line and whether he 306 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: plans to stick with this group. You know, this was 307 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: a big competition. We've talked about it a million times. 308 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: This competition was kind of down to the wire throughout 309 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: a training camp with three new starters along this unit, 310 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: and John Harball was asked whether he plans to make 311 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: any changes along the offensive line and basically say, you 312 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: got to look at the film, you got to look 313 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: at this, but I'm going to coach the guys that 314 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: we have. He did not come out there and say, oh, 315 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: we're gonna shake things up along this offensive line. Like 316 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 3: he didn't really answer it one way or another, but 317 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: you know, I think that always right. He made a 318 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: point like we're going to play the best players, but 319 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: he also didn't say, well, we're changing up this offensive line. 320 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: You know, it was it was basically a non answer. 321 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: I thought it was also like, look, we're playing the 322 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: best players. 323 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: Was also enough like people that are out there calling 324 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: for benk Cleveland or or somebody else. 325 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: To step in. He's like, we're playing the best players. 326 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So and that's been consistent throughout training camp, 327 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: for the rooms and the preseason, like that's how they 328 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 3: always operate, and so of course they're going to put 329 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: the best the group of offensive lineman who they view 330 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: is the best five. That's always been the focus. 331 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: Just staying on the offensive line. 332 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, Patrick McCay had a tough time time, 333 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: especially early in this game with Max Crosby. I do 334 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: think that Rosengarten thinks Roger stepped into the game. I 335 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: thought that it I would would say neutralized Max Crosby, 336 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: but it was better. And we'll have to go back 337 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: and watch the tape, as we always do. Review in 338 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: the film, But I thought it was pretty solid. I 339 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: noticed a couple in particular, really good blocks by again 340 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: on that wide open throat as a Flowers, Roger Rosegarden 341 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: had a really nice block one on one against Max Crosby. 342 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that's an encouraging sign for the rookie. 343 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing about Crosby, like he was completely 344 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: disruptive early in the game, and then he came up 345 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: with the big play at the end of the game. 346 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: But you know, in the middle, I do think the 347 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: Ravens seemed to figure things out a little bit with him, 348 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: and that goes probably to the overall offense, and they 349 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: had success, you know, on those those drives coming out 350 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: of halftime, and they looked pretty good there in the 351 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: third quarter, and so they seem they got seemed like 352 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: they got something figured out. But with a great player 353 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: like that, it's hard to it's hard to hold him 354 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: down for too long. And obviously he a difference there 355 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: at the end of the game. 356 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 357 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: One standout for the offense Zay Flowers. 358 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, eleven targets ninety one yards, seven catches ninety 359 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: one yards in the touchdown which he hit the Jacoby 360 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Jones Choppa City Juke. Yeah, love to see that on 361 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: a day when the Ravens honored Jacoby Jones. Jacoby Jones 362 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: as well as Joe dia Alisandras really a target monster. 363 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean he did that in case also, but Isaiah 364 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: likely led the Ravens. But Zay Flowers today more than 365 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: twice as many targets as anybody else. Mark Andrews had 366 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: five targets. He had four catches for fifty one yards. 367 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: But Jay Flowers got the ball early and often in 368 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: this one. Isaiah, likely coming off the monster performance in KC, 369 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: only had three passes come his way, caught two for 370 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: twenty six yards, almost had that long one at the 371 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: end of the game. If you want to go back, 372 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: you'll have to watch this one again. You want to 373 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: go back to the officiating. I mean that was a 374 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: shot to the head that he took on that on 375 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: that play that you could have You could make a 376 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: case that there could have been a flag on that one, 377 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: but there wasn't. 378 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, say was good. 379 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: Zay. 380 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: I thought had a really nice game. And you know, 381 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: the one other kind of theme that I thought, just 382 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: coming away from it offensively, is we spent a lot 383 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: of time talking this week about Lamar Jackson as a runner. 384 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: He ran so much last week against Chiefs, is are 385 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: we going to see that? And today was a clear 386 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: indication like that wasn't that. He didn't run much at all. 387 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: Five for thirty five. 388 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to go back and watch the 389 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: film and see what the Raiders are doing to kind 390 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: of crack down on that. But yeah, I mean, Lamar 391 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: had a couple of plays where even his runs were 392 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: really read option he kept it and it just didn't 393 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: work out. It just didn't seem like it was the 394 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: right call for him to keep that. 395 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: It should have probably handed it off. 396 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: Didn't work out, but you know, he had one fifteen 397 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: yard run, but yeah, it didn't really get a lot 398 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: going with Lamar Jackson on the ground today. 399 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: And I'll say this too on the running game. I 400 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: think you know, Derek Henry talked after the game and 401 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: he basically said the key is he just said, execution. 402 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: The key is execution. In the first half that the 403 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: Ravens weren't executing the run game. It takes all eleven 404 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: to be aligned in terms of executing on the run game. 405 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: And so he wasn't basically buying into the narrative like, oh, 406 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: we just warm him down in the second half and 407 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 3: that's what was allowing the running game to go. And 408 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: I do think the Ravens this was consistent with what 409 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: we saw really in the preseason and in Kansas City. 410 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: They need to have more success, especially early in the 411 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: game running the football, like that's going to be something 412 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: that this team needs to do a better job of. Again, 413 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: they got to go in in the third quarter, but 414 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: you don't want to wait until the third quarter to 415 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: get it going. Yeah, And I think that that is 416 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: something that this team, that this offense, that this offensive 417 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: line is going to need to do, is they're going 418 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: to need to have more success establishing the run in 419 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: these games. 420 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: Nine points in the first half isn't enough and five. 421 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: Rushing yards for Derek Henry's not enough. 422 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's absolutely not. That really makes it difficult 423 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: on your offense to, Yeah, you have to stay ahead 424 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: of the chains and not being able to run the 425 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: ball is really putting this team in a disvanage. That 426 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: is the good news, Like I said, the spinning zone 427 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: out of it is that ran the ball better in 428 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: the second half. You start to see things click, and 429 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 1: Derek Henry said, you know, I feel like we need 430 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: to stay with it right like sometimes in the run 431 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: game takes patients. And it looked like they were going 432 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: to show that right and certainly showed it in that 433 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: in the third quarter and into the fourth. On that drive, 434 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry got the ball in four straight carries. Yeh, 435 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: finish that puppy off with a touchdown. But you know 436 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: they have to have more suctaint sustained success running the ball. 437 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: To your point, I'm a little just to flip it 438 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: over defensively, I'm a little surprised. I mean we've talked 439 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: so much about this Ravens secondary. Gardner Minshew completed thirty 440 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: to thirty eight passes. I did not think that Gardner 441 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: Minshew was going to complete thirty. 442 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 3: Balls in this game. 443 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of crazy. I mean, Gardner Minshew just 444 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: something about Mt. Bank Stadium. That guy plays the game 445 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: of his life in here. I don't know what the 446 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: deal is. Brock Bauers caught nine balls from ninety eight 447 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: yards a rookie tight end. Yeah, and so he was 448 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: a problem and the Ravens, I mean, they're going to 449 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: look at themselves, and I think feel like, yeah, we 450 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 1: need to win some more of these one to one 451 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: battles in the secondary. They gave up some more players 452 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: over the middle. You know, that's brock Bowers had a 453 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: number of those, and uh, yeah that I think that's 454 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: you don't like to see the defense that we've touted 455 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: all off season long, Uh get you know, have them 456 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: go down the field for ten points there at the 457 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. 458 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been a little bit surprised. I was surprised 459 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: by thirteen points. Yeah, I was surprised that the defense 460 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: gave up as much as they did in the second 461 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: half and in this fourth quarter. Like I just I've 462 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 3: kind of felt like this defense could be a lockdown 463 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: unit that doesn't allow much of anything. Like That's kind 464 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: of my thought coming into this year. They're like, this 465 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: defense is just gonna end games. Like they're just gonna 466 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: get guys off the field. They're gonna they're gonna take 467 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: the ball away, which they had one turnover today, but 468 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 3: like and and the. 469 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: Thing is, and they got after that. I mean, they 470 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: have good times. It should have had six if they 471 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't for the face mass penalty. 472 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: Right, And maybe you can say that that's okay, well 473 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: you did you did the job, but you got the 474 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: sack and they call this face mass penalty, which was bad, 475 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: you know, I think, But then they still moved the 476 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: rest of the lawyey down the field and got points 477 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: on that drive. And so yeah, I am surprised by that. 478 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: I still think this defense is really good, but I 479 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 3: am surprised that they gave up as much as they 480 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: did in that fourth quarter. 481 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the first half. The Ravens absolutely stuffed 482 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders in totality in the first half. 483 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: I mean, goodness, gracious, they had forty three yards in 484 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: the first half. You're right, so on twenty sixth place nothing. 485 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like it's such as there's a lot 486 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: of layers of disappointment with this game, but like a 487 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: couple of them on the defensive side, like this is 488 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: an Ndafe oh Way breakout game. He had two and 489 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: a half sacks and you're feeling like, man, this here's 490 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: here he is like this this is the kind of 491 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: game that we've been waiting for from Oway and he 492 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: delivered it. And also Kyle van Noy shocking that even 493 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: plays gotta fractured Orbalo Bone comes out to practice on 494 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: Friday and you're like, wow, this is surprising. We'll see 495 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: if he has a chance, plays the game and gets 496 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: two sacks. Man, that's a veteran player who's playing with 497 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: a serious injury who comes up with a pair of sacks. Like, man, 498 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: that's something to sell. Great. So you have like these 499 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: great individual things on defense, but then the Ravens aren't 500 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 3: able to finish it off and get the win. It's 501 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: just like all that gets spoiled. 502 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 503 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the more surprising developments has been Justin 504 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: Tucker and his struggles from plus fifty yards. He is 505 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: now one of seven the last two years, the last 506 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: two years from fifty or longer, which you know one 507 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: of those was a block last season, but still you're 508 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: talking one of six now on those attempts. He missed 509 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: a fifty three yarder, fifty six yarder Okay, I'm sorry, 510 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: missed a fifty six yarder in the second quarter for 511 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens. 512 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: And that's one that obviously ends up to come back 513 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: and haunt you, right, I mean, you lose by three, 514 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: you lose by three. 515 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: So after this game, you know, he talked about how 516 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: he's going to lean on his teammates once again. He's 517 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: been in difficult positions over his career and he's leaned 518 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: on those guys and he'll do that once again. But 519 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: certainly not used to seeing the goat struggling in any 520 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: part of the game. 521 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was asked basically, is there a trend? And 522 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: you know he he basically said, like the simplest way 523 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: you can put it, he just missed the kicks, like 524 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 3: like he's not necessarily of course he's gonna look at it, 525 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: but there's he's not gonna overthink it in the sense 526 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: that you're now you're in your own head, it's a 527 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: fifty plus yard or can you make these and go 528 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: down that path? And so, you know, he it didn't 529 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: seem to me like he was too concerned about the 530 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: trend that exists there, and he was really confident in 531 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: his ability and the team's ability to correct it on 532 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: the on the field goal kicking unit, but also from 533 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: a broader standpoint as a veteran player who's seen a 534 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: lot of football during his time here, about the team's 535 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: ability to correct the things and get back on the 536 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: right track. 537 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you will. You know what I mean, 538 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: I think he will. I'm gonna start sweating justin Tucker. 539 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: Yeah I'm not. I'm not hitting the panic button on 540 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: that one. 541 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, me either. So all right, we'll take a 542 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: quick break. When we come back, we'll share some other 543 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: thoughts from this game and also look ahead to where 544 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: the Ravens go from here. You're listening to the Ravens 545 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: Lounge podcast. We're coming to you from Sea Geek Studio. 546 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: We also want to give a shout out to our 547 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: friends at Draft King Sportsbook. They are an official sports 548 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft Kings Sportsbook. The 549 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: Crown is yours. 550 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: Another note that I wanted to put out on Special 551 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: Teams and talk about is Jordan Stout. You know, I 552 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: thought that was that was a big miss at the 553 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: end of this game. I mean, you just shanked it. 554 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: He shanked a punt twenty four yards on the Ravens 555 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: final punt of the game that set up the Raiders 556 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: for their final, really game winning field goal drive. 557 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you can't have that. 558 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's just been there's been too 559 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: many shanks in clutch situations. It has to be better 560 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: than a twenty four yard punt. I mean, the Ravens 561 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: are out their earn twenty four yard line. If you 562 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: back them, put them back at their own twenty five thirty, 563 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: you flip the field. Much different scenario. I mean, they 564 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: they started on the brink of scoring range because there's 565 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: also penalty exactly, there's also a five yard penalty that 566 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: you get tacked onto that. I mean they started the 567 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: in the Baltimore at the Baltimore forty three yard line. Yeah, 568 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: then basically had to get one completion to move the 569 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: chains and run, run, run, and you're you're already in 570 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: easy Daniel Carlson field goal range. 571 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: Right, I mean it was that was significant. You know, 572 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: you can't you can't have a it's a twenty four 573 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: yard punt, but really a nineteen yard punt when you 574 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: add in when you add in that penalty. So like 575 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: that's a critical point of the game, and you just 576 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 3: can't have that. You can't when you have an opportunity 577 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 3: when you need basically to put them to pin them back, 578 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: you can't give them to the ball on the on 579 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: your side of the fifty and and then again one 580 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: completion and then basically just run the clock down and 581 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 3: kick the game winning field goal, right, that can't happen. Yeah, 582 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: So so the tough thing for the Ravens, you know, 583 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: playing this forward is like if you're just doing the 584 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 3: old if you're looking at the schedule and you're doing 585 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: the old win loss game, like this was the easiest 586 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: one that they have in this first month of the 587 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 3: season because next up they go to Dallas and they 588 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: play the Cowboys. Then you play the Bills here on 589 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: Sunday Football. I mean, the Bills are two and over 590 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 3: right now, they're looking good. Now. The Cowboys, you know, 591 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: they got blown out at home today by the Saints. 592 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: So you know that it's always tough to tell what 593 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 3: these teams are early in the season. But either anyway 594 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: you look at it, you know this this offense is 595 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: gonna have to go up against Michael Parsons in a 596 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 3: really talented Dallas team next week. 597 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: So that's gonna be no cake walker, not at all, 598 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: not at all. 599 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: And so you you have your work cut out for 600 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: you here with these two games over the next two weeks. 601 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, look, I think the Ravens, I 602 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of hot takes after one week 603 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: of football, right, this is the way it works every year. 604 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: And you think that you know everything after one game 605 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: is played, and I think that now what people are 606 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: going to say is, yeah, the Ravens were overrated. The're 607 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: zero and two, they're not a good team. I think 608 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: that's false, right, I think I think this is still 609 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: a good team. I have a lot of faith in 610 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: what the Ravens have here, and I have a lot 611 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: of faith that they're going to have to rebound. But 612 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: they've got to do it right. This was this was 613 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: one that you should have had in the wing. Now 614 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: you better be able to win one that that maybe 615 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have been that you shouldn't have won. Right, 616 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: So you gotta go on the road, and you gotta 617 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: beat a Cowboys team. You have to you have to 618 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: beat the Bills at home. I mean, you should win 619 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: at home regardless. But you go down the schedule and say, 620 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: you find one, all right, they're gonna probably be underdogs 621 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: in this game, and maybe it's this Week three game 622 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: in Dallas, And you say, all right, if that one 623 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: was was chalked up on the win loss game as 624 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: the loss before the season started, well that one's now 625 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: gonna be a win to make up for this one, right, right, 626 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: And I mean you do get into territory now when 627 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: you look ahead of the schedule and you say, I 628 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: mean beyond that, it means Dallas Buffalo Bengals. Right, Bengals, 629 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: as we're recording this, are beating the Chiefs in Arrowhead. Yeah. Right, So. 630 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: You start to look at it and sure, oh and two. 631 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: Is not good. 632 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: And yep, they have a lot of football left, fifteen 633 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: games left. But if you start dropping, you go to 634 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: oh and three, it can get out a hand early. 635 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't don't turn it around now, I'll say this, 636 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 3: and kind of, I guess close it up on a 637 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 3: relatively positive note on that front. You and I were 638 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: not sitting here a year ago when the Ravens lost 639 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: in overtime to the Colts again and again that we 640 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: was that felt a little bit similar to this one, 641 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: and we were sitting here saying, you know, probably a 642 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 3: lot of the similar stuff. Now, at that point there 643 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: were two and one. It's a big difference between zero 644 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: and two and two and one. So I understand that 645 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: it's not the exact same scenario, but I just wasn't 646 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: saying at that point while the Ravens are going to 647 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: end up with the number one overall, see, and they're 648 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 3: not gonna need to play anybody in week eighteen. It's 649 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 3: going to be sit them down because you already got 650 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: that locked up. That was not the conversation we were 651 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: having on that podcast. So there's a lot of season left. 652 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: That was the message that John Harball made to the 653 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: team after the game and made to the media that 654 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: you know, this game, this season is going to be 655 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 3: defined based on the next fifteen games, and so they 656 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: have the opportunity to turn things around. A lot of 657 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 3: football left to be played. I think the Ravens are 658 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: still confident, but they know like the seriousness the gravity 659 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 3: of the situation, and that they need to turn it 660 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 3: around in a hurry. 661 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. They're a good football team that needs to play 662 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 2: better football. 663 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 3: That's what it is, right. 664 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: Too many self inflicted mistakes, too many penalties are going 665 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: against you, Okay, but you got to be able to 666 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: overcome that. 667 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: You can't. 668 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: You can bellyache about that all you want, but it 669 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: doesn't change the score, yep, right, and so they got 670 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: to play better football, point blank, yep. 671 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: So we will be back with you, John Harper was 672 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: going to talk with the media on Monday. As always, 673 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: we're going to do our film review podcast that's going 674 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: to come out on Wednesday. Also going to have an 675 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 3: interview with the player as well, so we'll continue to 676 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 3: cover this team and talk about it and make sure 677 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: that you guys listeners are always in tune with what's happening. 678 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: Also want to encourage you to send us your thoughts. 679 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: Email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 680 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: Always enjoy getting your emails. I'm sure that there will 681 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: be lots of opinions after this game, but we will 682 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: read some of those emails on the next episode, so 683 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: send us those emails. Make sure you hit the subscribe 684 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: button to this feed as well as the Ravens Press 685 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: Pass feed. Thank you so much for listening and we 686 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 3: will talk with you again soon