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Speaker 3: I am a divorce lawyer and I accidentally dated my

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Speaker 3: client's wife.

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Speaker 4: Oops. This happened a couple months back.

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Speaker 3: For context, I'm a divorce attorney, been practicing for about

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Speaker 3: eight years now. Mostly family low stuff, generally pretty routine work.

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Speaker 3: People want to untangle their lives. I help them do

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Speaker 3: it legally. Everyone moves on. By the way this comes from,

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Speaker 3: may not be a lawyer for long. And if you

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Speaker 4: And I'm Angie, I'm Dakota.

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Speaker 3: I'm Sophia, and we're here to give good advice goofully,

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Speaker 3: But we don't have all the answers. We're just gonna

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Speaker 3: guess what we would do in this situation. Let us

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Speaker 3: know what you do down below. Oh piece says, let's

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Speaker 3: flash back to last March. I took on what seemed

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Speaker 3: like a straightforward dissolusion case client. I'll call Dave. Nice

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Speaker 3: enough guy, been separated from his wife for over a year.

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Speaker 3: Just wanted to make it official, nothing complicated, decent retainer.

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Speaker 3: Figured we'd have it wrapped up in a few months.

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Speaker 3: Dave seemed reasonable, not one of those vindictive types trying

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Speaker 3: to burn everything down out of spite. Around the same time,

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Speaker 3: i'd been seeing this woman, Sarah for a couple of months.

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Speaker 3: Met her at a coffee shop near my office. Really

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Speaker 3: hit it off. She mentioned going through a divorce, but

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Speaker 3: I didn't cry, not exactly first date conversation. You know,

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Speaker 3: she had a different last name from what was in

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Speaker 3: my client files, so when I ran my conflicts checks,

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Speaker 3: nothing flagged.

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Speaker 4: Everything was going great with Sarah, really great.

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Speaker 3: Actually, we were taking things slow, but it was heading

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Speaker 3: in a good direction until we scheduled the first four

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Speaker 2: Oh no oh no, oh no oh no.

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Speaker 3: I walk into the conference room with Dave, chatting about

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Speaker 3: keeping things amicable, and there's Sarah sitting across the table

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Speaker 4: I literally just stopped mid sentence.

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Speaker 3: My briefcase slipped right out of my hands and hit

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Speaker 3: the floor with this loud thudd, And.

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Speaker 2: Then all your papers spilled out of it. And then

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Speaker 2: and then also the building lit on fire, and then you.

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Speaker 3: Peed your pants.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then yeah, and then a bunch of little

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Speaker 5: one inch men ran in and said, and they stole

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Sarah went completely white.

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Speaker 3: Dave looked back and forth between us for what felt

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Speaker 3: it clicked for him. Are you effing serious right now?

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Speaker 3: He says, not shouting, but definitely not pleased. Sarah started

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Speaker 3: tearing up. Her lawyer looked like he wanted to crawl

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Speaker 3: under the table. I'm standing there feeling like the biggest

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Speaker 4: I had to immediately excuse myself with Dave.

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Speaker 3: Guy was understandably pissed, started grilling me. How long had

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Speaker 3: this been going on? Did I know who she was?

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Speaker 3: Was this some kind of setup to screw him over? Oh?

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Speaker 6: Come on, guy, did it feel like a shut up

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Speaker 2: He went Hey, Olan dropped his briefcase.

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Speaker 3: Clearly shocked. I was so shocked that I went into

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Speaker 3: He didn't buy it at first. What kind of lawyer

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Speaker 3: doesn't ask basic questions? He keeps saying, I had to

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Speaker 3: took about twenty minutes before he finally believed it was

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Speaker 3: just spectacularly bad luck. Even then, he's shaking his head,

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Speaker 3: him find new counsel. There's no getting around it. I've

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Speaker 3: gosh dang thing that's ever happened to me. Still wasn't

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Speaker 3: refunding unused fees. Sarah and I didn't speak for two

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Speaker 3: weeks after that meeting. We were both mortified. Her attorney

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Speaker 3: it was still my screw up. I should have had

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Speaker 3: better procedures to catch conflicts like this. You mess up

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Speaker 3: the conflict check, you deal with the consequences. Dave texted

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Speaker 3: me a few weeks later, but it wasn't friendly. It

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Speaker 3: was more like, hope you realize this completely left up

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Speaker 3: my timeline and I can't say I blame him.

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Speaker 2: Well, e though, brothers. Sometimes it's just the way it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, complicated, will believe, isn't it? And just to add

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Speaker 3: I had to report the conflict.

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Speaker 5: Well, the only solution to this is that you never

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Speaker 5: date anyone ever again.

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Speaker 6: That's you never did anyone.

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Speaker 5: You get a federally mandated wife, sure you just this

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Speaker 5: is your wife, lottery, You pick a name, she's your

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Speaker 5: wife now, yep, and don't worry about it. You'll never

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Speaker 5: have a conflict of interest again. Exactly, and that and

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Speaker 5: that's and there and there we go.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Problem solved, Problem solved.

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Speaker 4: There are some comments put me in charge.

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Speaker 3: Chief Challenge says, I mean you did waste a lot

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Speaker 3: new lawyer would have to redo. Did you and Sarah

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Speaker 3: at least continue dating afterwards? Opie said, Sarah used another

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Speaker 3: name socially that Dave had not disclosed her file had

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Speaker 3: her legal name. Our check didn't catch it, and I

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Speaker 3: didn't connect the dots. Her and I's relationship was less

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Speaker 3: emotionally involved. To keep it brief, I've been overworked and

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Speaker 3: dealing with more than a full caseload. Yes, I could

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Speaker 3: have done better at preventing this from happening. This was

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Speaker 3: a major f up on her end. I don't think

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Speaker 3: being a workaholic too. Pretty much all communication had been

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Speaker 3: directly between me and her counsel. No, her and I

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Speaker 3: did not continue seeing each other for obvious reasons. Also,

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Speaker 3: this is not a butt. I made a throwaway specifically

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Speaker 3: only thing I could think of is that you would

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Speaker 3: your client was the man she was currently divorcing when

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Speaker 3: except as a joke. Another commentarort says, if I'm a

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Speaker 3: on any cases with that. McDonald douglas says, if I

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Speaker 3: have include maiden names and aliases.

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Speaker 4: Why aren't you guys also smart?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, wouldn't that be convenient if you were the lawyer

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got an update, But those coments definitely felt like, oh, well, well.

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Speaker 2: If I was a lawyer, I wouldn't be so stupid.

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Speaker 3: But it's like you probably wouldn't have You probably wouldn't

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Speaker 6: Story captain hindsight. Yeah he's always right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it's too late, so silly comments.

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Speaker 2: Always right when it doesn't matter anymore.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is two months later now, So it's been

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Speaker 3: about seven months. Oh what since the conference room incident?

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Speaker 1: Cool?

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Speaker 3: And people have been asking what happened? Short answer, it's

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Speaker 3: been a mess. About three weeks after I withdrew from

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Speaker 3: senior partners. Three partners are firm's general counsel and a

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Speaker 3: rep from our malpractice carrier. On the video call, the

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Speaker 3: managing partner slides a folder across the table. Opposing council

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Speaker 3: reported a conflict of interest issue to the state bar

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Speaker 3: under rule eight point three. We've been notified of a

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Speaker 3: disciplinary inquiry if Dave's new attorney bout the reports.

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Speaker 4: They don't get to decide what happens.

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Speaker 3: They just report potential violations and the bar takes it

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Speaker 3: from there. I have to explain every how I met Sarah,

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Speaker 3: how we'd been casually dating for a couple of months,

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Speaker 3: never connected the dots. The General Council is taking notes.

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Speaker 3: Walk me through your conflict check process. I explained the

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Speaker 3: intake procedures, how the system works, how Sarah's legal surname

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Speaker 3: Model Rule one point seven a two issue marital limitation conflict.

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Speaker 3: Rule one point sixteen, but we need to understand how

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Speaker 3: this wasn't caught earlier. The malpractice carrier rep unmutes will

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Speaker 4: It'll be noted when your policy comes up for renewal.

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Speaker 3: Great, how did I not know who she was?

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Speaker 2: Because your name is like Cassandra and she was going

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Speaker 2: by Fiona. And then you know, what do you want

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of Sarah's in the world, all right.

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Speaker 2: He should have shown me a picture of her, maybe

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Speaker 4: Okay, we didn't know each other, anyone ask about her divorce.

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Speaker 5: From now on, I'll ask my clients show me a

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Speaker 5: picture of your ex wife, Shall I know I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Banging her exactly. The firm mandates that I complete an

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Speaker 3: eight hour clee on conflicts of interest before taking any

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Speaker 3: new client intakes. They've already registered me for a seminar

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Speaker 3: that Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Eight am.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I show up at a hotel conference room

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Speaker 3: with about twenty other attorneys. One of the instructors is Patricia,

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Speaker 3: a divorce attorney I've opposed a few times. She definitely

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Speaker 3: knows why I'm there, based on the look she gave me.

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Speaker 3: What do you think that look was? Yeah? I think

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Speaker 3: so that's Patricia.

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Speaker 6: Somebody's back again.

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Speaker 8: I see.

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Speaker 3: Most of the morning is standard material rules, case law procedures.

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Speaker 3: Then we get to case studies and Patricia brings up

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Speaker 3: the inn. Ray Johnson, a twenty nineteen disciplinary matter attorney

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Speaker 3: representing a divorce client, starts dating someone turns out to

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Speaker 3: be the opposing party. Discovers it at a settlement conference.

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Speaker 3: Same exact situation as mine from six years ago in

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Speaker 3: a different state, and I wanted to sync.

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Speaker 3: I can't really blame her, Dave, if you see this, Sorry, man.

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Speaker 9: My coworker demanded I stop washing my hands because she's

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Speaker 10: You know what I'll buy those.

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Speaker 9: I think she likes to smell things and this is

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Speaker 10: Her name smelling smell? I don't know. Smellyana Shelley, smelly.

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Speaker 3: And it's the soap that's in the company bathroom too,

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Speaker 3: Like, that's not even something that you could fix easily

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Speaker 9: an apology for embarrassing me on Friday and accusing me

444
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Speaker 9: of not respecting her today. She ended up just walking out,

445
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Speaker 9: and when I got back to my desk, her purse

446
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Speaker 9: was gone, so I guess she just left for the day. Also,

447
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Speaker 9: the Senate click until I was reading some comments on

448
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Speaker 9: my original post, but I guess this whole situation means

449
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Speaker 9: she doesn't wash her hands. Otherwise she would have smelled

450
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Speaker 9: the soap right away. I'm glad I never had any

451
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Speaker 9: of her stuff at the potlucks.

452
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Speaker 10: That's the update.

453
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Speaker 9: And Nope, he doesn't reply to any of these comments. Nope,

454
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Speaker 9: my boy behind the screen, is there an up? Like

455
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Speaker 9: another update?

456
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Speaker 10: Perhaps? I feel like there might be a little bit

457
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Speaker 10: more here.

458
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Speaker 8: Let me do that for you, Riley.

459
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Speaker 9: Thanks, dude, I'm gonna get the next one up. That

460
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Speaker 9: is absolutely insane.

461
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Speaker 3: Someone said, viola complaint for her not washing her hands.

462
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Speaker 3: You put up one of those like little signs. It's

463
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Speaker 3: like all employees must wash her hands. It's usually in restaurants.

464
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Speaker 9: But like whatever, Yeah, And honestly, this chick is probably

465
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Speaker 9: such a pain in the boss's butt and for some

466
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Speaker 9: reason he can't replace her, so he's just gonna do

467
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Speaker 9: whatever she needs because he needs her there and she

468
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Speaker 9: entertainment probably and then like she can leave whenever she wants,

469
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Speaker 9: She can do whatever she wants. She can like call

470
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Speaker 9: out people, imagine yelling at people at work and saying

471
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Speaker 9: you don't respect me, you ye, and getting letting that

472
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Speaker 9: just roll off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Literally, So no update, no update. This was posted ten

475
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Speaker 8: days ago.

476
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Speaker 9: No, bro, we should DM pm her and be like, Yo,

477
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Speaker 9: we need to talk.

478
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Speaker 10: Can you please up on the pod.

479
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Speaker 9: That'll be so funny if you if you'd like, like, hey,

480
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Speaker 9: we just read your story. Would love to learn more

481
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Speaker 9: about this. Yeah, she probably won't answer, but.

482
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Speaker 3: Would love just at least just tell us if she's

483
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Speaker 3: fired or if they're boy king.

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Speaker 4: That's the two things very least I need to know.

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Speaker 10: And that's the end of the story. We're gonna read

486
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Speaker 10: the next one.

487
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Speaker 3: My new management messed with our vacation and it ended

488
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Speaker 3: up costing them.

489
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Speaker 2: A million, make it two million.

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Speaker 3: I worked at a company that gave our exorbient amounts

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Speaker 3: of vacation. Anyone who works there for twenty five plus

492
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Speaker 3: years received eight weeks of vacation and two weeks of

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Speaker 3: personal time. What day.

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Speaker 5: Damn.

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Speaker 3: This was a family owned company, but rather large. We

496
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Speaker 3: ran three shifts totally two hundred and fifty plus people.

497
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Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Rustic Whiskey And if

498
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Speaker 3: you want to submit your own stories, go to the

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Speaker 3: r slash Okay Storytime. Separddits and I'm Angie.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, I'm Riley.

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Speaker 4: And we're here to give good advice.

502
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Speaker 3: Goofiy, But we don't have all the answers, so we're

503
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Speaker 3: just gonna guess what we would do in the situation.

504
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Speaker 3: Let us know what you would do in the comments.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Opie, says enter Jimmy.

506
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Speaker 3: Jimmy was a grizzled old man who started at the

507
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Speaker 3: company when he was just twenty old.

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Speaker 2: Jimbo good old Jimbo.

509
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Speaker 3: Now he is sixty three and gave absolutely zero craps.

510
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Speaker 3: Jimmy also knew how to make a specific part for

511
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Speaker 3: our product. Him and one other higher up in the office.

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Speaker 3: One day, the plant owner came out and announced that

513
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Speaker 3: he was selling to a corporation. He was older and

514
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Speaker 3: ready to retire. He promised that there would be very

515
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Speaker 3: little change and wished us all well. The new company

516
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Speaker 3: came in and immediately went after many of the great

517
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Speaker 3: benefits we had.

518
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Speaker 4: Of course, they did got really great benefits.

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Speaker 3: The first thing they did was cut everyone's max vacation

520
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Speaker 3: down to four weeks and completely did away with personal time.

521
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Speaker 3: Anyone who was maxed out had until December thirty first

522
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Speaker 3: of that year to use it up, and.

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Speaker 4: They wouldn't pay it out.

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Speaker 3: They then went into the office and cleaned house firing

525
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Speaker 3: anyone who was close to retirement, including Jimmy's backup.

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Speaker 4: That's illegal.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's agism.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, you know.

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Speaker 6: Corporations are scum.

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Speaker 3: I guess you could fire him for like different reasons,

532
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Speaker 3: but not smart.

533
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Speaker 2: Got fi hi because it makes my bottom line. Say

534
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Speaker 2: ooh oohoo, yummy, yummy.

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Speaker 3: Sure, happli. But they also did away with one very

536
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Speaker 3: important rule. You no longer had to get vacation approved.

537
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Speaker 3: You could just call in and take it. Jimmy was

538
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Speaker 3: pissed and they knew it. They realized he was the

539
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Speaker 3: only one in the building who could do his job now,

540
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Speaker 3: so they hired a new kid for him to train,

541
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Speaker 3: most likely to permanently replace Jimmy. So Jimmy did what

542
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Speaker 3: anyone would do. He called in on the first training

543
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Speaker 3: day for the new hire and let us know that

544
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Speaker 3: he was going to use all of his PTO at once.

545
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Speaker 3: He promptly took ten weeks off. We had a backstock

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Speaker 3: of parts that he had made, so it wasn't too unnerving.

547
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Speaker 3: But for ten weeks Jimmy went and applied to other jobs,

548
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Speaker 3: found one and started working there. Fast forward ten weeks.

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Speaker 3: It was the day Jimmy was supposed to return. He

550
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Speaker 3: didn't for two days. They tried calling him and even

551
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Speaker 3: went to his house. He was nowhere to be found. Finally,

552
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Speaker 3: on day three he called and resigned, and they lost

553
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Speaker 3: their crap.

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Speaker 2: Dude, you Jimmy make sweat Jimmy.

555
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Speaker 3: Honestly, yeah, because I'm thinking it's like, okay, well, the

556
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Speaker 3: fact that he could do that is honestly pretty insane,

557
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Speaker 3: and that does make me think that like maybe the

558
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Speaker 3: like vacation like process that they had set up was

559
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Speaker 3: like not the best because someone could do that. But

560
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Speaker 3: if it was like a family owned thing, even though

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Speaker 3: it was like a bigger, successful company, it's like it's

562
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Speaker 3: if it's a family thing, it's probably like, oh, no,

563
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Speaker 3: we're hiring people that we trust and that we like,

564
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Speaker 3: and I want to give them this time off.

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Speaker 6: You know, Jimmy did that for the people, for the

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Speaker 6: people who were fired.

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Speaker 3: The parts he made were specialized and patented by the

568
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Speaker 3: original founder. You couldn't just hire someone off the street

569
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Speaker 3: to make them. What eventually happened was they had to

570
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Speaker 3: contract the original owner to come in and teach some

571
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Speaker 3: new hires how to make them. When he found out.

572
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Speaker 4: What they had done, it pissed him up.

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Speaker 3: Last I heard he charged them a seven figure contract

574
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Speaker 3: to teach them how to produce the part, and they

575
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Speaker 3: had to pony up or closed out. Why, oh my gosh,

576
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Speaker 3: that's crazy, And.

577
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Speaker 6: That's what you gave for being a bloodsucking bag corporation.

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Speaker 3: That is so crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all of them are like that. This one certainly was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. Moral of the story, don't mess

581
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Speaker 3: with people's vacation time. And there is an edit here.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy made an electronic control module that was sealed and

583
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Speaker 3: fixed in a pored unit made of a two part

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Speaker 3: epoxy Edit number two. Jimmy didn't exactly miss out on

585
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Speaker 3: a seven figure contract and had zero chance to take one.

586
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Speaker 3: He left, said f and moved on. When they contacted

587
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Speaker 3: the previous owner and explained the situation, it was basically

588
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Speaker 3: a union in my houp, it'll cost one million dollars

589
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Speaker 3: type of conversation some of Opie's comments. One commentary says,

590
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Speaker 3: so they never tried to contact the backup and re

591
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Speaker 3: hire him, Opie said, Honestly, I never asked, nor was

592
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Speaker 3: I informed. He was like sixty five and had also

593
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: been there for forty plus years, so I'm sure they did.

594
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Speaker 3: Why he didn't come back, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I'm he didn't come back because you probably heard about

596
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 5: all this stuff they did.

597
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they fired him.

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Speaker 5: That was you want me to work for the Legion

600
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Speaker 5: of Evil? No, right, get out of here.

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Speaker 3: My guess is he was bitter and doing just fine

602
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Speaker 3: in early retirement. Another commenturer says, Jimmy is my spirit animal.

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Speaker 2: You wish.

604
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: Opie says. Our factory was next to another factory. In

605
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Speaker 3: between them was a giant gravel lot owned by the city,

606
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Speaker 3: and they let both factories use it for excess parking.

607
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 3: One time, Jimmy was walking out of the building and

608
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Speaker 3: a coworker told him that their boss was coming to

609
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Speaker 3: find him or to let him know that he needed

610
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Speaker 3: to clock back in and stay over to finish some work,

611
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Speaker 3: which was about two to three hours. Jimmy hustled out

612
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Speaker 3: to his truck and waited. When the boss walked up,

613
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Speaker 3: Jimmy looked him in the face, pulled a forty out

614
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Speaker 3: of a cooler in the bed of his truck, and

615
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: slammed it. Now, I didn't get to see this. I

616
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: was just told about it. Rumor has it that they

617
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: just stood and stared at each other for a minute

618
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: before the boss shook his head and walked back in.

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Speaker 3: Since he was in the gravel lot and not on

620
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Speaker 3: company property, there wasn't anything that they could do. Jimmy

621
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 3: was hard, but another commenter says, I'm cool with not

622
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: being taken advantage of, but Jimmy was being a wiener

623
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Speaker 3: in this instance, or worked out of place that he

624
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: didn't like respect and probably should have quit a long

625
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Speaker 3: time ago.

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Speaker 2: G did you even read the story, nincompoopish?

627
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Speaker 3: No, he did it. No, he did it. The nincompoopis

628
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Speaker 3: didn't even read this story.

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Speaker 2: Head nincompoop Nincumpoop Universities. I bet he.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't even know how to read this nincompoop because after this,

631
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Speaker 3: Jimmy shouldn't be driving himself home. Hey, if your company

632
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: f's you around, I get it, But if they're halfway decent,

633
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: you could return the favor the rest of us who

634
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: want decent places to work, who don't hate the world

635
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 3: every morning we wake up.

636
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Speaker 4: Ope response, I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: If he drove, his wife worked across the street, and

638
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 3: his brother worked there with him, so I honestly couldn't

639
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Speaker 3: say he did leave his truck there at the end

640
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Speaker 3: of the week a lot and ride with others to

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Speaker 3: the bar or a river, So I couldn't tell you.

642
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: I never saw him drink and drive, but that doesn't

643
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: mean he didn't. On the other hand, I completely agree

644
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Speaker 3: with how he handled it. He was already clocked out

645
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: for the weekend and halfway to his truck when they

646
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Speaker 3: decided to make him stay over time. He could have

647
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Speaker 3: said no, but he made a statement instead. The company

648
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: was bad about alerting you to overtime. They'd come out

649
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Speaker 3: while you were waiting in line at the time clock

650
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Speaker 3: and pull you for a double and this was before

651
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Speaker 3: the takeover.

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Speaker 4: Out of all the.

653
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Speaker 3: Good reasons to work there, that was one of the

654
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: few bad things. Another commentary says firing everyone at retirement

655
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: age is majorly illegal in the US. Age discrimination Ope says, well,

656
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: here's the thing. I live in an at will state.

657
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Speaker 3: They can come in and fire you at any time

658
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Speaker 3: and are required to give zero reasoning. They usually give

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Speaker 3: you bs reasons, though, such as we've eliminated this position,

660
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Speaker 3: or the company is going in a different direction. They

661
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: never say you're too old to cover their own butt.

662
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Speaker 3: Granted you could take it to court, but you would

663
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Speaker 3: probably lose. It's sad and unfair edits. I should have

664
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Speaker 3: stated this earlier, but I didn't think think it was relevant.

665
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: I fired other people as well, probably ten to fifteen

666
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: people who had worked there for over like ten years.

667
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 3: But the thing is, they hired people to replace almost

668
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: everyone that they fired, who were of all ages. It

669
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: was more to cut costs than to discriminate against age.

670
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: People who had been there for multiple years had received raises,

671
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: and we're talking dollars, not cents like most American companies.

672
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: So they hired new people at the starting wage and

673
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: saved a buck. Oh I see. So they were giving

674
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 3: some people that they kept raises and they didn't want

675
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: to get everyone a raise.

676
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 5: They fired all the people who had earned raises by

677
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 5: being good at their jobs and replaced them with people

678
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 5: who were worse at their jobs.

679
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could pay them less.

680
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 10: That's because that's Chris.

681
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 5: All about that bottom line. Oh my god, you're looking

682
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 5: for a fat bottom line.

683
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 9: That money, money, money, All about that money, money, money,

684
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 9: got to make that money money money.

685
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 5: Bottom line, money, money, the bottom line.

686
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: That man over there on my own open am shoe.

687
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: We I guess the case could have still been made

688
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: against him, though another commentary says, as an old guy

689
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: who has been a tech exec at dozens of companies,

690
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: including being brought in on takeovers, let me confirm that

691
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: this is so real, not as bad as entitled next

692
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: generation owner whelps who haven't a clue about running anything

693
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: and then go firing key people in a hissy fit,

694
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: crippling the company. Both outsiders and next gen owners have

695
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: rarely a clue about the secret sauce that made the

696
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: original owner so successful. Better than average vacation or share

697
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: options make for far better employees. Alter that at your peril,

698
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: Opie says, I agree one hundred percent.

699
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 4: This guy started this company in his basement in his.

700
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: Late fifties and made it a five hundred million dollar company.

701
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this guy has.

702
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: To be working in defense. There's no way this guy's guy.

703
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 6: Contracts.

704
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: We had great benefits, great employees, slash employer relations, and

705
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: the lowest turnover rate I've ever seen. The new corporation

706
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: made it one of the worst places to work in

707
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: the area. I still have friends that work there, and

708
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: they just tried and failed to unionize that's a still

709
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: developing story for another day. Though apparently they crossed some

710
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: lines and possibly broke some laws.

711
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: Maybe karmobiles strike again and more.

712
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: On the part that Jimmy made, It was a control

713
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: module that was handmade and had to be sealed to

714
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: be dropped into a two part epoxy. They honestly probably

715
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: could have reverse engineered it, but my guess is they

716
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: were crunched for time. I know we had a lot

717
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: of backed up orders in multiple departments, and we do.

718
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 4: Have an update for over four years later.

719
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

720
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: I hope they go under or they like get new,

721
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: better management or something.

722
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: I just want to know what's up with Jimmy. Oh Jimmy.

723
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, if he's still willing to work, I hope he's

724
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 4: owning the.

725
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 10: Place now he owns He owns his own place.

726
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 6: Now, he started a different place.

727
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: He owns that place. He waited the new place owns

728
00:32:59,120 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: that place.

729
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: All right. Updates four years later. Over four years later,

730
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: Jimmy is still around here. I see him from time

731
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: to time, especially at the local watering hole.

732
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: Ooh year, that's classic Jimmy.

733
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: He's still and is still his old self.

734
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 3: The company we worked for had a major restructuring about

735
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: two years ago, and things have gotten better there, so

736
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: Jimmy went back. I myself have moved on to bigger

737
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: and better things, but after constant contact from their new

738
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: HR and talent recruitment program asking me to come back,

739
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: I've decided to at least have a sit down with them.

740
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: I showed Jimmy this post one night, and his reaction

741
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: was comical in itself. He said, those f tards didn't

742
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: know who they were resting with. They sure is Heck no.

743
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, that's right.

744
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's Jimmy. You tell him.

745
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: Jimmy.

746
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: Take in mind, he was probably two buckets in at

747
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: this point, and there is a little bit more to

748
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: the story of Toy. Of any final thoughts either of

749
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: you before we go on.

750
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: Go Jimbo, Go Jombo, Go Jomba. Le's go Jimbo.

751
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 3: At the time of his re employment, they were shaking

752
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: things up due to a scare that the employees had

753
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: brought a union in and we're gearing up to vote

754
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 3: on the matter. Part of his stipulations for going back

755
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: were the reinstatement of all the benefits he had lost

756
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 3: and the dealing with two of the problem higher ups

757
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: an issue that had been brought up by several other

758
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 3: employees at the time. Two weeks after he started back,

759
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: both were walked out of the building and told not

760
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 3: to return.

761
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right, Jimbo said, you gotta go on

762
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 5: your butts, Jimbo.

763
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: Jimbo's here now. Jimbo was running the ship. Mm hmm,

764
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: you gotta go, Sonny.

765
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: I can imagine the smile on his face as he

766
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: waved goodbye to both of them. I'll be working by

767
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: his side in the near future. If things go well,

768
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: maybe I'll even ask for more vacation time. And that's

769
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 3: the end of that story. That was a good one.

770
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: Hey y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get

771
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: back to the stories. But here's a quick three minute

772
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: break from as for more sponsors.

773
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 7: My boyfriend secretly catfished my stalker to toy.

774
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: With his feelings.

775
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 10: Fire with Fire.

776
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 7: I twenty eight female broke up with my ex twenty

777
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 7: eight male ten months ago, but he will not get

778
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 7: over it. Despite me wishing to no longer interact with

779
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 7: my ex and even though I'm dating someone new Cole

780
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 7: twenty nine mail, my ex has been trying to whip

781
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 7: me back by doing over the top things like sending

782
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 7: me gift baskets, love letters, chocolates, et cetera, even though

783
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 7: I've blocked his number, blocked him on all social media,

784
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 7: and always ignore his attempts to woo me with his gifts.

785
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 7: By the way, this comes from deceased Caterpillar. And if

786
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 7: you want to submit your own stories, go to the

787
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 7: r slash Okay storytime separate it.

788
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm Keon, and we're here.

789
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 7: To give good advice Goofley, but we don't have all

790
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 7: the answers. We only know what we'd do, So let

791
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 7: us know what you would do in the comments. Oh,

792
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 7: he says he never actually interacts with me directly, never

793
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 7: waits for me outside or tries to talk to me.

794
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 7: He just leaves gifts at our doorstep and runs away.

795
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 7: It's creepy and makes me super uncomfortable. Cole, who I

796
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 7: live with, doesn't actually see an issue with this and

797
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 7: says he feels bad for my ex and doesn't want

798
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 7: me to waste my ex's money or efforts. So I

799
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 7: reluctantly just let Cole eat the chocolates and other stuff

800
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 7: since he insists I don't throw them out. He even

801
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 7: likes reading the love letters, even though I tell him

802
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 7: I don't want to. I don't understand why he's so

803
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 7: chill about this because my ex and Coal aren't even

804
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 7: friends and have never interacted, So it makes no sense

805
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 7: why he's okay with my ex doing these dumb gestures

806
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 7: that he knows make me uncomfortable and creeped out. If anything,

807
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 7: Cole should be pissed off that someone is trying to

808
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 7: steal his girlfriend. Right anyway, all of this finally came

809
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 7: to a head on my birthday. After work, I came

810
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 7: home to our apartment decorated with balloons, chocolates, and flowers.

811
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 7: I was immediately touched, thinking all of this was the

812
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 7: surprise from Coal. Nope, apparently my ex actually came over

813
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 7: with all this stuff, buzzed our apartment doorbell, and Coal

814
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 7: let him in. Then my ex left before I got home.

815
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 7: Cole apparently saw no issue with this. You literally let

816
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 7: my ex into our apartment like it was no big

817
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 7: deal because my ex came all the way with all

818
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 7: these gifts, which was such a thoughtful gesture. Now I

819
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 7: feel totally unsafe. What if my ex secretly left a

820
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 7: hidden camera or something. I have no idea why Coal

821
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 7: is so fine with all of this. I've talked to

822
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 7: him over and over and he won't understand why I

823
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 7: would want to reject free stuff from someone who clearly

824
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 7: creeps me out. I love Cole, but the fact that

825
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 7: he actually let my ex into our apartment was a

826
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 7: huge breach of my trust, and I have no clue

827
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 7: how to deal with this. Is this relationship just unsalvagable

828
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 7: or is there a way I can get it through

829
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 7: Cole's head that none of this is okay? Could Cole

830
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 7: have ulterior motives by letting my ex do all these things?

831
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 7: Any advice is welcome. I just have no clue how

832
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 7: to handle this absurd situation. Thanks, and there is an edit.

833
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 7: I don't have the money to do everything that was recommended,

834
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 7: but I am going to do some investigating into Coal

835
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 7: in my ex possibly being in cahoots with each other,

836
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 7: and confront Col this weekend, likely to end this cluster

837
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 7: of a relationship. The consensus is, don't even try to

838
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 7: save the relationship and stay safe. Comments by op why

839
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 7: she's already living with Coal? Cost of living mostly I

840
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 7: live in a very expensive city, so I was living

841
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 7: month to month on my own. He basically offered to

842
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 7: be my roommate so that we can go half and

843
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 7: half on the rent internet utilities and it would relieve

844
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 7: my financial stress, which it has a lot. It might

845
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 7: have been stupid to jump the pew pew at us

846
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 7: moving in so quickly, but he had only shown green

847
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 7: flags until now. I can technically punt him out and

848
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 7: try to look for a different roommate if things are

849
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 7: totally done for, since most of the stuff in our

850
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 7: apartment is mine I mentioned above, It was mostly to

851
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 7: do with the cost of living in an expensive city

852
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 7: that we moved in quickly. I've known Coal for a

853
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 7: couple of years as a friendly coworker and gaming buddy,

854
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 7: and then started dating him eight months ago. I thought

855
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 7: I knew him well enough, but apparently not. I meant

856
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 7: he only showed green flag before we started properly dating

857
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 7: and we moved in together before this whole stocker mess.

858
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 7: He was, or at least pretended to be thoughtful, funny, helpful,

859
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 7: and sweet, the type who if you told him you

860
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 7: had a hard day, he'd offer a shoulder massage and

861
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 7: let you vent to him. It wasn't until this stocker

862
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 7: x stuff that he showed such a disregard for my

863
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 7: safety and comfort. I've been with Cole for almost eight months.

864
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 7: At this point, I have no idea how the two

865
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 7: of them could have met, since they don't share any friends,

866
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 7: went to different schools, work totally different jobs, and have

867
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 7: completely different interests unless they secretly became friends while my

868
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 7: ex has been stalking me and he's hidden that from me,

869
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 7: which would just be absolutely ridiculous because who would want

870
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 7: to be friends with the guy who's stalking and trying

871
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 7: to steal your girlfriend?

872
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: But at this point, I have no idea anymore.

873
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 7: Another commoner asks if Opie is sure her ex was

874
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 7: in the apartment, and Opie responds, I mean all of

875
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 7: the love letters and signed tags are in my ex's handwriting,

876
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 7: so unless someone has copied his handwriting down to.

877
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: A tee that I I'm pretty sure it's my ex.

878
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 7: Cole has been the one eating all the edibles and

879
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 7: interacting with the gifts. I do not even touch them. Well,

880
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 7: my initial thought is maybe he wanted to keep my

881
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 7: ex'es gifts around so he could get free chocolates eat.

882
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 7: At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually

883
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 7: that careless. His friends already know about all this and

884
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 7: seem to think it's funny that my ex is such

885
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 7: a try hard. His family lives across the country, but

886
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 7: I could try texting them. My ex was easy to

887
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 7: break up with because I had only been dating him

888
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 7: two months before he pulled some absolutely dumb crap that

889
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 7: pissed me off so much I felt no remorse in

890
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 7: dumping him instantly. I'm sure you were only did in this, Yeah,

891
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 7: for two months.

892
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 10: This makes no sense.

893
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: Now two months and he is stalking you ten months later.

894
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 10: There's something underneath happening.

895
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 3: This is scary.

896
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 10: Do you think Cole and your ex are cousins?

897
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 3: Maybe?

898
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 5: I don't know.

899
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: There's just throw out. Let's throw out all of those theories.

900
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's like there's just a bigger picture we're just

901
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 9: not seeing right.

902
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 10: Something else is going on.

903
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, with Cole, it's a bit different since I've known

904
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 7: him years before dating and thought he was a really

905
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 7: great guy until now. He's genuinely sweet and every other

906
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 7: way except this one thing. But this one thing is

907
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 7: definitely bad enough to outweigh the good things. It just sucks,

908
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 7: But I have to think about my safety.

909
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 3: First.

910
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 7: My boyfriend is work from home, so there's a chance

911
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 7: he caught my ex while he was dropping things off

912
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 7: and they talked. He denies that, but I'm becoming more

913
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 7: and more paranoid now, and I'm definitely going to see

914
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 7: what I can do to end this relationship in case

915
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 7: they are secretly in good I'm becoming more and more

916
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 7: paranoid that they have somehow come into contact. If Cole

917
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 7: caught my ex while he was dropping stuff off previously

918
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 7: and then became buddies, it makes no sense in my head.

919
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 7: But neither does any of this crap. It's all so

920
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 7: nonsensical that I could believe anything. At this point, I

921
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 7: don't have the money to break my lease, but I

922
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 7: can punt Coal out since he's not on the lease.

923
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 7: And there is an update three days later, but definitely,

924
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 7: I think definitely punt Cole out. He's not on the least,

925
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 7: get him out of there, get him out, you're the

926
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 7: only one in the least, and then you can There's

927
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 7: like so many people that are always looking for a

928
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 7: place to live.

929
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 9: Especially you said you're in an expensive city, so that's

930
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 9: very popular.

931
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, Facebook groups.

932
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 7: I don't think it will be that hard to find,

933
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 7: you know, someone to share your place, but you know,

934
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 7: maybe do a little do a little check in on them,

935
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 7: see if maybe friend of a friend if you can.

936
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm just confused.

937
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 10: How you get a stalker after two months?

938
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

939
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 10: And your boyfriend of eight months should just let him

940
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 10: do whatever? Yeah, Hella did. They has been the whole

941
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 10: ten months that he's been doing this crab. It seems

942
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 10: so okay. I wasn't sure if it picked up within

943
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 10: the Yeah, maybe I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm just at

944
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 10: a loss. Hopefully this update clears up some things.

945
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 7: I hope you get your break up with this X

946
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 7: and he doesn't. I hope you don't have two stockers.

947
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 7: Update three days later. When I got back home on Friday,

948
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 7: I tried to come up with a good plan to

949
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 7: keep myself safe while I confronted Coal. A lot of

950
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 7: people put the fear of God into me in the

951
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 7: comments of my last post. I invited my very tall

952
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 7: and intimidating younger brother over to be there while I

953
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 7: talked to Cole. My brother couldn't come over until Sunday,

954
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 7: so I spent a day and half awkwardly trying to

955
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 7: pretend everything was fine, but Cole kept asking me what

956
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 7: was wrong and love bombing me. Eventually, Sunday came around,

957
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 7: my brother showed up and we grilled Coal about why

958
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 7: the heck he's been so fine with my ex, coming

959
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 7: around with gifts and even letting him in to decorate

960
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 7: our apartment for my birthday.

961
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: I was not ready.

962
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 7: All of you had a lot of theories, one of

963
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 7: which was that the two knew each other and or

964
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 7: were working together. If anything, I would have rather been

965
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 7: the case because the truth is so much more messed up. Basically,

966
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 7: Cole has been fixated on my ex, which is what

967
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 7: you said you were like, he's into those love letters, man,

968
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 7: but why love letters have been working just not on

969
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 7: op He has essentially been stalking my stalker. Cole admitted

970
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 7: that he made fake social media accounts, yes multiple, to

971
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 7: follow my ex and has been stalking his Instagram and Facebook.

972
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 5: Why.

973
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 7: Apparently my ex has been making a lot of vent

974
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 7: posts about me and how hurt he is that I'm

975
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 7: not returning his feelings, and Cole has been egging him

976
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 7: on with his alt accounts to get my ex to

977
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 7: keep trying the reason my ex is still stalking me

978
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 7: is because Cole has literally been telling him to on

979
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 7: his fake accounts. It's obvious my ex is unstable if

980
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 7: he's listening to random strangers telling him to keep trying,

981
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 7: and Cole is taking advantage of his instability by planting

982
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 7: thoughts into his head. My ex has no idea that

983
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 7: Cole has been encouraging him to keep pursuing me. So

984
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 7: why was Cole doing all of this? That is exactly

985
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 7: what my brother and I asked. His answer to give

986
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 7: my ex false hope. Anytime my ex posted on social

987
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 7: media about me, Cole got some sick satisfaction out of

988
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 7: watching his misery. He wanted to string my ex along

989
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 7: to keep trying, just to watch him fail over and over.

990
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 7: Cole found it hilarious that my ex was wasting so

991
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 7: much money on gifts for me, and that it was

992
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 7: him who ate the chocolates and read the desperate love

993
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 7: letters while I avoided them like.

994
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: They were radioactive.

995
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 7: This has all been some sick game to see how

996
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 7: long he could get my ex to keep pining for me.

997
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 7: I've been living in fear for months because Cole thought

998
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 7: it was funny to manipulate my ex and watch him

999
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 7: be heartbroken. I cannot articulate how sick all of this is.

1000
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 7: He said he makes sure not to go too far

1001
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 7: by discouraging my ex from making direct contact with me.

1002
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 7: But I can't believe anything anymore. I've read so many

1003
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 7: stories of people who were dating someone who seemed so

1004
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 7: sweet initially but turned out to be unhinged. But I

1005
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 7: never thought that could be me. I was careless and

1006
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 7: naive because I clung to someone who finally treated me

1007
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 7: with kindness. But he is a twisted man who turned

1008
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 7: my ex into a monster by feeding his delusions. I

1009
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 7: think if he hadn't done all this, my ex probably

1010
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 7: wouldn't still be stalking me in the first place. My

1011
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 7: constant fear and discomfort have just been an unfortunate byproduct

1012
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 7: of his little game of puppetry. I'm so shaken up.

1013
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 7: I feel like I'm spiraling. I'm living with my brother

1014
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 7: and his girlfriend while Cole gets the heck out. I

1015
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 7: told him he needs to move out within the week

1016
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 7: or I'm getting the cops involved. He didn't make a fuss.

1017
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 7: He just looked at the floor like a kicked puppy.

1018
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: Good.

1019
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 7: He hasn't even tried to call or text me. But

1020
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 7: I blocked him just in case. I'm gonna see if

1021
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 7: my landlord can let me break the lease early with

1022
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 7: no extra cost. But if I can't, my brother is

1023
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 7: going to cover the extra cost. In the meantime, I'll

1024
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 7: stay with him and his girlfriend until I can find

1025
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 7: somewhere else. My brother is seriously a godsend. I'm definitely

1026
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 7: going to go back to therapy as soon as possible

1027
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 7: because this whole situation has me unable to sleep at night,

1028
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 7: trust anyone, and I really need a better understanding of

1029
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 7: what red flags are in relationships. So many of you

1030
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 7: told me I was a pushover, and y'all are right.

1031
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 7: It shouldn't have taken this long for me to call

1032
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 7: this relationship with Cole off. This is so messed up,

1033
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 7: but I'm safe for now. I don't know what I

1034
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 7: do without my brother and his girlfriend. Thanks to everyone

1035
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 7: who told me to get out of this relationship, because

1036
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 7: Cole was way more twisted than I ever could have thought.

1037
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: I'm out, gone, never looking back, and there isn't ed it.

1038
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 10: Dude, Dad is insane.

1039
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 9: What I appreciate about updated stories is the first story

1040
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 9: they're looking for help. They don't know what's going on.

1041
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 9: Everything's going a heck. They seem crazy.

1042
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1043
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 10: The second update, if they don't get their.

1044
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 9: Craft together after reading all the comments that people have

1045
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 9: been posting, then they're lost.

1046
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 11: Hope.

1047
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 3: But here hero, He's like, thank you. This is for you, guys, this.

1048
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 10: Is i ope. Yeah. Wow, dude, how do you how

1049
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 10: do you even find a person like Cole? Yeah?

1050
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 7: That's pretty insane, But there's a little bit left. I

1051
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 7: called the non emergency police line to file a report

1052
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 7: about all of this. It wasn't super helpful other than

1053
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 7: just making a record, So I'll do a follow up

1054
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 7: with them once I have safe access to my apartment

1055
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 7: and can collect evidence. I unblocked Cole for now to

1056
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 7: gather any text evidence, as some of you suggested, but

1057
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 7: he's been pretty quiet. He sent a photo of a

1058
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 7: couple of garbage bags full of his stuff and asked

1059
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 7: if he could have a day to say goodbye to

1060
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 7: my cat. I have her with me currently at my

1061
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 7: brother's place. No way am I letting her near him.

1062
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 7: There is a little bit left do this story. Do

1063
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 7: you have any final thoughts?

1064
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 10: Top ten most shocking stories ever?

1065
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 7: Really like of all of the freaking reasonings that we

1066
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 7: had and theories. I was not expecting he was just

1067
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 7: trying to torture Op's X. That's pretty wild. There's a

1068
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 7: little bit left. I haven't replied yet. I turn read

1069
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 7: receipts off. I haven't contacted X one yet, still figuring

1070
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 7: out the best way to do that. Tomorrow is a

1071
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 7: stat holiday where I live, so my brother and his

1072
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 7: girlfriend will be home from work. We are working together

1073
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 7: to figure all of this outs. Definitely moving out of

1074
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 7: my current place as soon as I can. Sorry, I

1075
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 7: can't reply to all the comments. I'm still pretty overwhelmed

1076
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 7: and anxious, but I'm trying to read most of them,

1077
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 7: and I appreciate every one of you. Oh he says,

1078
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 7: I took the week off from work because I need

1079
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 7: to just figure all this crap out. I am so

1080
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 7: full of anxiety, but my brother's trying to distract me

1081
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 7: by talking about competitive Pokemon.

1082
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 3: Bless his heart.

1083
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 7: Several comments say to have somebody tell her X that

1084
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 7: he's being stalked and cyberbullied. Was so caught up in

1085
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 7: escaping that I never considered this. You're right, Thank you

1086
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 7: for reminding me. My head is such a mess right now.

1087
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 7: On need to brainstorm the best way to let my

1088
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 7: ex know. I hate to know how he'll react to that, though,

1089
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 7: I'm gonna find a way to get someone to tell him.

1090
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 7: He might be a creep, but he deserves to know

1091
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 7: he's being manipulated. Oh, I am definitely not going to

1092
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 7: contact my stocker x myself. I'll probably get my brother

1093
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 7: to do it, since he at least met my ex

1094
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 7: a few times while I was dating. My dumb self

1095
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 7: didn't think to record Cole's confession, so we don't have

1096
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 7: hard proof of his cyber intimidation towards my ex. Just

1097
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 7: gotta hope he believes us and stops interacting with Cole's

1098
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 7: all to counts, though I don't know the name of

1099
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Speaker 7: Cole's alts, just that he has them, which is also complicated.

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Speaker 7: He was sending me gifts before I started dating Coal,

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Speaker 7: but it definitely ramped up after I started dating Coal.

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Speaker 7: And that is the end of that story.

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Speaker 10: Folks.

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Speaker 11: I twenty five female have been dating my boyfriend twenty

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Speaker 11: few years he was a step dad until his ex

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Speaker 11: divorced him. The divorce was ugly and she went fully

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00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 11: no contact after and didn't allow visitation with her son.

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Speaker 11: He had no legal claim, so he just didn't see

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Speaker 4: I'm Carly, I'm Sophia.

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Speaker 11: Keon and we're here to give good advice goofully, but

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Speaker 11: we don't have all the answers. We only know what

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Speaker 11: we do, so let us know what you would do

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00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 11: in the comments. And Opie says also important to know

1131
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 11: up until this point, he has never drank in front

1132
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 11: of me. He never said why, But even when we

1133
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 11: went out, he never drank booze at all. I don't

1134
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 11: mind this because my mom has a problem with booze

1135
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 11: and I usually have one or two drinks at most. Also,

1136
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 11: last week, we had some mutual friends over to my

1137
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 11: apartment and he started doing some small quick drinks and

1138
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 11: quick succession, quick succession, and got really messed up really fast.

1139
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 11: We had five friends over. Two were not drinking with

1140
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 11: me on my patio and the other three were inside

1141
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 11: with my boyfriend. I saw he was really having small

1142
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 11: quick drinks, but I didn't really care, because why not

1143
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 11: have a little now and then? Just because he hasn't before,

1144
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 11: it doesn't mean he can't. Then, what felt like out

1145
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 11: of nowhere, one of the people who had been inside

1146
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 11: with my boyfriend came out to tell me my boyfriend

1147
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 11: had had a little too much and I needed.

1148
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 12: To check on him.

1149
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 11: I was confused because everything seemed totally fine, like thirty

1150
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 11: minutes before this. Then I heard him yelling something incoherent.

1151
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 11: When I went into the kitchen where they were hanging out,

1152
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 11: I saw that the whole brand new bottle of vodka

1153
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 11: friends bought was gone, and there were adult soda cans

1154
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 11: from a twelve pack that only had a couple left.

1155
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 11: Four people were drinking, including him. He was in the

1156
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 11: bathroom throwing up and not making any sense, and then

1157
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 11: he fully passed out mid sentence sang not in a

1158
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 11: funny way, but in like an immediately choking on his

1159
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 11: throw up kind of way. He leaned back against the

1160
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 11: tub and was asleep, and then started vomiting again while

1161
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 11: still sitting up with his head back. We were all panicking,

1162
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 11: and one of my friends called emergency while me and

1163
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 11: another laid him on his side.

1164
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: Got God, I just.

1165
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 12: That you guys knew what to do in any way.

1166
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 11: He finally started to come to when the ambulance got there.

1167
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 11: On the way to the hospital, he was coherent, but

1168
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 11: didn't know where he was or who I was. He

1169
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 11: kept calling me his ex wife's name and asking for

1170
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 11: her son and asking me why I was keeping his.

1171
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 12: Boy from him.

1172
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 11: He said it a few times, so I know I

1173
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 11: didn't misunderstand. He also started like he was going to

1174
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 11: swing at the EMT, and I think he would have

1175
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 11: if he had any control of himself at all.

1176
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 12: He is fine now, or.

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00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 4: He will be.

1178
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 11: He got booze poisoning and was in the hospital for

1179
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 11: a little over two days, but he's out and recovering now.

1180
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,959
Speaker 11: He doesn't remember the things he said or did at all.

1181
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 11: He doesn't remember past his first few quick drinks. According

1182
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 11: to our friends, he just started straight drinking from the

1183
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 11: bottle after the first few small quick drinks and they

1184
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 11: were trying to get him to stop. He was just

1185
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 11: being a belligerent knucklehead to them. They ended up fighting

1186
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 11: over the bottle and then he chugged like most of

1187
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 11: it during or after the fight. Shortly after that, the

1188
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 11: throw up started, and then everything went downhill fast. He's

1189
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 11: apologized for all of it. He said, he's really sorry

1190
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 11: and this is why he doesn't drink, which I guess

1191
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 11: is good to know. Would have been good to know

1192
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 11: before all this happened. Our friends are making jokes about

1193
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 11: it with him, and everyone seems super keen to move

1194
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 11: on and forgive and forget, but I can't. He said,

1195
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 11: he's sorry so many times, but I just can't unsee

1196
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 11: it now, so I ended things with him. Some of

1197
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 11: my friends said I'm overreacting and he's never done it before,

1198
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 11: but after him calling me her name all night, whether

1199
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Speaker 11: he remembers it, or not.

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Speaker 12: I can't forget it.

1201
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 11: This hasn't been easy, but I felt like my skin

1202
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 11: was crawling when he touched me, and I don't think

1203
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 11: there was coming.

1204
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 12: Back from it for me.

1205
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 11: His behavior that whole night reminded me of my childhood

1206
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 11: and I want to be far away from that now,

1207
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 11: especially because he knows my history and he never told

1208
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 11: me he gets like this before. Only after I saw

1209
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 11: it in person. He said it so normally too, just

1210
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 11: I get like that when I'm drinking. When I ended it,

1211
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 11: he tried to change my mind at first, but he

1212
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 11: accepted it after a while. He has been respecting my

1213
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 11: request not to contact me after the breakup, but a

1214
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 11: couple of my friends are really upset with me for

1215
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 11: ending things over some bad judgment.

1216
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 12: We have enough date Well, it's.

1217
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 11: Been a weird couple of days. Shortly after my last post,

1218
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 11: my ex started texting me and asked me to just

1219
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 11: talk to him. Honestly, there's a lot I needed to

1220
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 11: understand and questions I needed to ask. So we set

1221
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 11: up a time the next day at a park near me,

1222
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 11: maybe to get closure, maybe to try one last time.

1223
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 12: I don't know.

1224
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 11: I wanted to at least try to talk one last time.

1225
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 11: That night, one of our other mutual friends we will

1226
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 11: call Hannah, also texted me and asked if we could

1227
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 11: meet up. I was super hesitant at first because I

1228
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 11: don't really.

1229
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 12: Know Hannah all that well.

1230
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 11: She was really insistent she needed to talk to me

1231
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 11: and promised she wouldn't pressure me about anything. She asked

1232
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 11: if I could come by that night for tea, and

1233
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 11: I greed. I'm glad we did meet up because she

1234
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 11: told me a lot of stuff I didn't know. Hannah

1235
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 11: has been friends with my ex since high school and

1236
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 11: knew him and his ex wife when.

1237
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 12: They were married. She told me they got a divorce.

1238
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 11: Because he had a serious drinking issue when they were married,

1239
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 11: got two DUI's wow, one when he wasn't even of

1240
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 11: legal drinking age and a disorderly His ex wife's final

1241
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 11: straw was him arriving home wasted when her son was

1242
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 11: in the car with him.

1243
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: Clearly unacceptable, No, the unacceptable.

1244
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is the guy clearly needs help, and you

1245
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 7: know you're not a professional PEDI. You don't have to

1246
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 7: provide that help, especially when you didn't know what you

1247
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 7: were getting into. There was an honesty upfront, and also

1248
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 7: you're also very young.

1249
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 12: Yeah, they're both so young.

1250
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 11: After that, she packed up and went no contact as

1251
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 11: soon as the divorce was finalized.

1252
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 12: I didn't know any of that.

1253
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 11: He was also in active recovery. When we met regularly

1254
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 11: attending meetings. He kept it all from me, Hannah told me.

1255
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 11: He also did something really similar in May when they

1256
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 11: went to a music festival as a group. I didn't

1257
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 11: go because I was working that weekend. I knew he

1258
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 11: was weird. When he got back and I asked him

1259
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 11: about it, he just said he and a few others.

1260
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 12: Had gotten into a bit and he didn't want to.

1261
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: Talk about it.

1262
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 11: According to Hannah, he got blackout at the festival on

1263
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 11: the first night and spent it vomiting in the medical tent,

1264
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 11: sobered up, and then repeated it the next day.

1265
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1266
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 8: The fact that he did it literally the next day night,

1267
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 8: that's not even twenty four hours like that. That's wild

1268
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 8: to me.

1269
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

1270
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 11: His friends were upset with him that time, but he

1271
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 11: begged them not to say anything to me, and no

1272
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 11: one did. Hannah said she felt really awful keeping it

1273
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 11: from me, But we really didn't know each other all

1274
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 11: that well, so all those times they fell silent when

1275
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 11: I walked up, or that I misunderstood some private joke

1276
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 11: now make a lot more sense. Hannah and I talked

1277
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 11: for hours, and she was really kind and empathetic and

1278
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 11: really helped me sort out my feelings. She also said,

1279
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 11: I'm more than welcome to tell him who told me,

1280
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 11: as she's told him before. If he wasn't honest with me,

1281
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 11: soon she would be I'm forever going to be grateful

1282
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 11: that we had our meeting before I sat down with

1283
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 11: my ex. My ex and I went to talk yesterday

1284
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 11: and it was messy. I really was hoping he would

1285
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 11: tell me all of that himself, and when he got there,

1286
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 11: I opened the floor and asked him to help me

1287
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 11: understand what happened that night. I didn't tell him right

1288
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 11: away that Hannah and I had talked because I wanted

1289
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 11: to see if he would tell me the truth or

1290
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 11: keep it from me. Still, maybe that was shady or

1291
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 11: some kind of messed up mind game, like he claimed,

1292
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 11: but it made sense to me at the time. He

1293
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 11: didn't tell me, though, He still just kept apologizing and

1294
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 11: asking if we could move on. He said he loves

1295
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 11: me and wants to be with me, and just wants to.

1296
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 12: Go back to how it was before this happened.

1297
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 11: I told him that he almost passed away. We couldn't

1298
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 11: pretend this just didn't happen. He said, fine, we could

1299
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 11: just move on then, and I said I couldn't move

1300
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 11: on if we couldn't talk about it, because I'm angry

1301
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 11: and hurt. If there's any chance at all, I need

1302
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 11: him to be able to talk to me about this

1303
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 11: and not just try to glaze over it with apologies.

1304
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: Well, it's like it's not I don't know.

1305
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 7: He's trying to say like, oh, we can just move on,

1306
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 7: we can just move on, but you haven't actually addressed

1307
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 7: the problem.

1308
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 12: He's denying that he has one.

1309
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 7: He has one, So there's no way to move on

1310
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 7: when you're still in the same place.

1311
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, and in reality, Yeah, for anyone out there with

1312
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 8: you know, hearing this and you're like, oh, that sounds

1313
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 8: kind of familiar, or I have a friend that's somewhere

1314
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 8: in the you know, along those lines. With anything they

1315
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 8: and they're denying it or they're not taking accountability, they

1316
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 8: should know that, hey, this is going to be not

1317
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 8: only affecting them, but everyone around them, their relationships, their

1318
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 8: loved ones, everyone it could get to a problem again.

1319
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 8: If not for themselves, it might hurt somebody else.

1320
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, I hope that they can get him back into

1321
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 11: another sort of program for that or something. He said

1322
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 11: he would try and asked me what I wanted to know.

1323
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 11: So I asked why he decided to drink, and he

1324
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 11: said he didn't know. I asked at what point he

1325
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 11: stopped remembering, and he said sometime after he took the

1326
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 11: bottle after the fight with his other friend. I asked

1327
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 11: why he did that if he wasn't blackout at the time,

1328
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 11: what made him decide to chug the bottle. He said

1329
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 11: that his friends were telling him he needed to slow down,

1330
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 11: and it pissed him off because it felt like a challenge.

1331
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 12: Then I asked him.

1332
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 11: Why he thought he called me his ex wife's name

1333
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 11: while blacked out. He tried to shut down the conversation again,

1334
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 11: and I said I really needed him to talk to

1335
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 11: me about this. After going in circles, I finally just

1336
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 11: told him that Hannah and I had talked and I

1337
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 11: know about his duys and drinking with the kid in

1338
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 11: the car. I also told him I knew about the

1339
01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 11: music festival in.

1340
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 12: Me and he lost it.

1341
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 11: He didn't deny any of it, just got angry that

1342
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 11: I knew. Not just angry, he fully blew up at me,

1343
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 11: started screaming about how cruel it was to keep it

1344
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 11: from him, that I knew all that and just let

1345
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 11: him look like an idiot and just let him lie,

1346
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 11: and that I was just playing messed up mind games.

1347
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 11: So I started yelling back that he was a liar

1348
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 11: and the mind games were all on him, and then

1349
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 11: it blew up into a mess, neither one of us

1350
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 11: listening or communicating well at all. He kept saying he

1351
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 11: just wanted to move on from it, and I kept saying,

1352
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 11: he clearly hasn't moved on from it if he won't

1353
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 11: even tell me about it, and I have to learn

1354
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 11: from his friends. He then said it was my fault

1355
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 11: because I was so adamant about not being around a

1356
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 11: regular user that he had to lie to me or

1357
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 11: I would have left him.

1358
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 4: So, oh, p, I don't know.

1359
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 7: Did we know that before that OPI specifically had brought

1360
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 7: up It seems like she brought up.

1361
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 11: Oh, weren't for sure that they had talked about it,

1362
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 11: but we were sure that Opie was around us?

1363
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yeah, but it seems like Op's telling us

1364
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 7: that she's specifically stated and he knew now that this.

1365
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 8: Was Yeah, Yeah, he knew, and he I was like, oh, wait,

1366
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 8: I shouldn't tell her my history or my my addiction

1367
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 8: because she'll break up with me. Yeah.

1368
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 11: No, I think the breakup was the thing to do, yes,

1369
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 11: And he had to stop going to treatment because he

1370
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,479
Speaker 11: was scared I would find out after that. It got

1371
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,479
Speaker 11: ugly with name calling on both sides. We both left

1372
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 11: angry and still broken up, and I haven't heard from

1373
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 11: him at all yet. I'm kind of hoping this is

1374
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 11: the end for now. Everything that has happened the last

1375
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 11: week and a half has made me really examine our

1376
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 11: past year together more closely, and now I see the

1377
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 11: flaws a lot more clearly. I think because we were

1378
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 11: compatible in a lot of ways, laughed together, like the

1379
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 11: same TV shows and movies, had similar interests in humor,

1380
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 11: We had a lot of fun together. I didn't really

1381
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 11: notice how often he would fully shut down conversations about

1382
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 11: his past. All of our biggest fights were around him

1383
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 11: being cold and distant for weeks at a time and

1384
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 11: not communicating what was going on, so I was left

1385
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 11: constantly wondering if I had done something wrong, and then

1386
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 11: he would go back to normal, and I would be

1387
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 11: so relieved that he wasn't being like that anymore.

1388
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 12: I would just drop it.

1389
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 11: I feel like he hid too much for me, lied

1390
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 11: too much, and made his friends lie to me too.

1391
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 11: I thought I had found my circle and I was

1392
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 11: finally getting to the good part of life, and this

1393
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 11: whole thing made that delusion come crumbling down.

1394
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 4: Ah.

1395
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 3: I think you made the right decision. I'm glad that

1396
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: you saw those red flags.

1397
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I hope that he gets the help that

1398
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 7: he needs.

1399
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 4: I hope so too, because he's clearly, like very stuck

1400
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 4: in it.

1401
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1402
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 7: And you know, when you're stuck in that, you lash

1403
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 7: out at everyone and everything.

1404
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 4: It's hard to see that light at the end of

1405
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 4: the tunnel, but it is there.

1406
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1407
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 12: Hopefully his friends, Yeah, bring them out of it.

1408
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 11: Some of it is my fault too. I moved to

1409
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 11: the city for a job and didn't know anyone here,

1410
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 11: so when I met him, I just sort of clung

1411
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 11: to his life. His friends became my friends, his favorite

1412
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 11: places became my favorite places. I didn't spend any time

1413
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 11: building a life of my own here. I spent it

1414
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 11: fitting myself into his, So that's the first thing I'm

1415
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 11: going to work on fixing, figuring out who I am,

1416
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 11: and finding my own life and people outside of him

1417
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 11: and his. I also got on the books with my

1418
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 11: old therapist, though not for another nine weeks, so I'll

1419
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 11: have to wait for that. For now, I'm going to

1420
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 11: focus on work and myself and figuring out what happens next.

1421
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 12: And that's the end of that story, at the end

1422
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 12: of