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Speaker 1: I am all in again.

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Speaker 2: Let's I Am all in again with Scott Patterson and

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast, one

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Speaker 1: of them productions iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast A Season four,

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Speaker 1: episode fourteen, The Incredible Sinking Laurelize. We have very special guest,

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Speaker 1: Patty Malcolm was Lauren stand In. She's also an actress, author,

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Speaker 1: equestrian who had multiple roles in Gilmore Girls, which we

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Speaker 1: just saw in this episode. Welcome to the show, Patty.

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Speaker 1: We see you've been in six episodes, including the one

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Speaker 1: we're about to recap as Laurelized hairdresser. Yeah, but you

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Speaker 1: were also Lauren stand In for five seasons. What do

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Speaker 1: you remember about that Gilmore time in your life?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, there's so much.

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Speaker 4: You know. One it was I just moved to Hollywood

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Speaker 4: to pursue this dream of acting, but I didn't want.

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Speaker 3: To be a waitress. So I was like, what else

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Speaker 4: Where I'm in on a set, learning watching you know,

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Speaker 4: the pros work and get more experience. And I got

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Speaker 4: Gilmore Girls right away, like within a month of being

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Speaker 4: in la and I interviewed for it and got the job.

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Speaker 3: And I just got thrown into it.

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Speaker 4: And what I love the most and remember the most

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Speaker 4: about Gilmore Girls is that we became a family so quickly,

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Speaker 4: Like behind the scenes we were tight. We did so

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Speaker 4: much together. We would work eighteen hour days and we

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Speaker 4: would still hang out after we wrapped, Like we would

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Speaker 4: stay on the lot and we would hang out and

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Speaker 4: play darts and sing karaoke, and we just wanted to

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Speaker 4: be around each other, wed each other, and the dynamic

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Speaker 4: I haven't found since. And I went on to stand

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Speaker 4: in for several other actresses on several other shows, and

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Speaker 4: I never had that same dynamic where I felt like

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Speaker 4: these are my family and my friends and I want

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Speaker 4: to hang out with them.

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Speaker 1: All the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So it was very special. It was a very

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Speaker 1: So what was it like watching this episode again?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: One I was telling your producer before we started is

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Speaker 4: that I didn't realize the girls were going through so much.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I honestly thought it was about Lauren had

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Speaker 4: I never watched any of the episodes because we were there,

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Speaker 4: I can't, I can't really just enjoy it when we

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Speaker 4: were actually working on the show, because I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that that happened. Oh that's the day I took a

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Speaker 4: nap on the stairs at the Gilmour mansion. You know,

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Speaker 4: realize all this was happening for the girls. It was

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Speaker 4: a really intense episode. And you know, remembering that mississ

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Speaker 4: missus C just yelled at me and I wasn't making

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just fun.

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Speaker 4: It was fun to watch the episode and have all

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Speaker 1: All right, well, air date on this one February seventeen,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Synopsis A Laura life feels the

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Speaker 1: Laura lies. Let's say, I feel like they're failing when

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Speaker 1: Rory needs to drop a class at Yale because of

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Speaker 1: in remodel. Meanwhile, Laane moves out of Rory's dormom Director

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Speaker 1: Steve Clancy, writer Amy Sherman to Palladino, Dan Palladino, Dragonfly

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Speaker 1: in Laura le Laura la Michelle Suker at the Dragonfly

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Speaker 1: Michelle is busy at his new job, oggling Selene Dion,

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Speaker 1: Horror of horrors, Patty, you were in this storyline as

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Speaker 3: I remember we had a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: Behind the scenes. Steve Clancy was excited to be directing.

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Speaker 4: Lauren was excited that I was doing her hair. She

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Speaker 4: You know, I got this role because previously, in the

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Speaker 1: It was right.

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Speaker 4: Before the Bachelor party that came in late at night

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Speaker 3: I was basically a swipe. You barely even saw my face.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, Chris, would be nice

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Speaker 4: So Chris Long gave got me this part as Leanne,

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Speaker 4: and he said, hey, too, shot, going to see your face.

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Speaker 3: Your mom's going to be happy, and you got a name.

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Speaker 4: So I was really excited and grateful to Chris to

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Speaker 3: The show is called Glamour Girls.

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Speaker 3: My own family, I'd be upset.

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Speaker 4: I'd be very like, what do you what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: go try try the lukester for some cash. That was

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Speaker 1: It's a very nice scene, it really is.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's this tension between you two that I

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Speaker 3: You guys really killed it. It's one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: Well, it's nice to have a great scene partner. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's her name? Paris? Yeah, Paris. And they argue, they argue,

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Speaker 4: they always come back to their comfort person. And I

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Speaker 4: think Luke is that for laurel I, and Dean was

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Speaker 4: that for Rory.

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Speaker 1: So if those two, if Dean and Luke were so similar,

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Speaker 1: then why is Luke so good for Lorelai and Dean

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Speaker 1: according to the fan base, isn't the one for Rory.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe because they want to see Rory.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's going.

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Speaker 4: To this big college, she's they want to see her

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Speaker 4: evolve past this small town thing. You know, her mom's

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Speaker 4: got the inn. Laurel lies got the inn. I think

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Speaker 4: the fans like her with Logan, liked her with Milo.

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Speaker 4: I go between their cast names and their real name,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, I think they just want to see her evolve,

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Speaker 4: you know, a little beyond stars hollow.

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Speaker 1: Like Loreal's more of a town y now. She ain't

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Speaker 1: going anything, She's.

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Speaker 4: Not going anywhere's this is her club, this is the people,

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Speaker 4: yeah right, And Alexis is spreading her wings and getting

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Speaker 4: worlds and.

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Speaker 3: Dean would hold her back there, you know. So I can't.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna say it because people get super excited.

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Speaker 4: I just I feel like there's another there's another story

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Speaker 4: that needs to be told, you know, it needs to continue,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 1: Let me bounce this off you, okay, because I you know,

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Speaker 1: I I sort of game theoried this out, you know,

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Speaker 1: and not that I am trying to rub salt in

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Speaker 1: the wounds that Rory can't handle her game theory class

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Speaker 1: at Yale. But if she married Dean, if she married Jess,

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Speaker 1: and she married Logan, let's play that out, okay, Like

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Speaker 1: the baby is Dean, Jess or Logan. Let's do all

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Speaker 1: three scenarios, okay. The one scenario that I okay, So,

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Speaker 1: the one scenario that I keep coming back to in

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Speaker 1: terms of this quality of the storytelling is Logan. And

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Speaker 1: it's because it's because let's consider ten years into that

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Speaker 1: marriage and a second kid. Okay, m hm, so what

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Speaker 1: are they They're in their early thirties and there's two kids.

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Speaker 1: You do that for Jesse, you do that for Dean, Right,

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Speaker 1: you do that scenario for all three. Who's most likely

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Speaker 1: to cheat? Of those three? And I think it's all

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Speaker 1: of them, But I think if it, I think you

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Speaker 1: have to give the odds. You know that they all will,

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Speaker 1: maybe one to a lesser degree over the other. But

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Speaker 1: if that happens, you think in divorce settlement, and in

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Speaker 1: a divorce settlement, you're going to do really well with Logan. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm actually being serious now going to You're going

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Speaker 1: to do very very well. So that's going to be

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Speaker 1: good for her. It's going to be good for the

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Speaker 1: children ultimately, and it also helps her to sort of

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't see Rory as a vindictive person,

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Speaker 1: but it does sort of, you know, maybe there's a

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Speaker 1: little satisfaction, you know, getting a little even, you know

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Speaker 1: with Mitcham who wounded her her ego so much with

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Speaker 1: his assessment of her skills as a journalist and her

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Speaker 1: metal as a human being and being not tough enough

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Speaker 1: to be in that business at a high level. So

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Speaker 1: she gets that type of revenge and then not that

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Speaker 1: she's seeking revenge, but it all seems to work out

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Speaker 1: in a Logan marriage scenario with a second kid, and

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Speaker 1: then you've got the storytelling that you were talking about.

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Speaker 1: How do you continue this storytelling? It's sort of a

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Speaker 1: Gilmore Huntsburger progeny, reliving maybe what is in their DNA

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Speaker 1: and rebelling against all of it, right, rebelling against the

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Speaker 1: Huntsburger side, embracing the Gilmore side, advice versa. But there's

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Speaker 1: that polarity right, right, So I just think that that

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Speaker 1: that's the best case scenario for the continued storytelling. And

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Speaker 1: I'm putting it out there because I'd like to adopt it.

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Speaker 1: I'd like the powers that be to adopt this, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I think and I'm open to for the fans

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Speaker 1: to speculate on what a Rory Jess marriage ten years

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Speaker 1: in and second China and a Rory Dean marriage would be,

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Speaker 1: like what what could be you know, above and beyond

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Speaker 1: a divorce settlement but whatever, it doesn't really have to be.

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Speaker 1: But what's the storytelling, what's the lore of Gilmore girls?

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Speaker 1: How does it continue on with a Dean marriage? To

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Speaker 1: Ry versus a Jess marriage story, because we know, we

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Speaker 1: know about the Huntsburger side of things or how I

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Speaker 1: feel about it, But I think that's something to ponder.

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Speaker 3: I like the idea that it is Logan.

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Speaker 4: They do get married, he does cheat, there is a divorce,

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Speaker 4: and she ends up back in her roots.

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Speaker 3: Back in stars Hollow.

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Speaker 4: She comes home, she got a nice settlement, she can

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Speaker 4: start any business she wants, and Stars Hollow, and I

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Speaker 4: see Jess coming back into the picture. Dean's got lots

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Speaker 4: of kids with his wife, and you know, I see

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Speaker 4: her and Jess back together, you know. And then then

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Speaker 4: Logan's kind of like a Chris, you know, in a way.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of and then she wants kind of more

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Speaker 3: of her back to her.

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Speaker 4: Small town roots. I see him back full circle back home.

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Speaker 4: Well he's got a new daughter, daughter.

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Speaker 3: Another you know Gilmore girl coming on up.

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Speaker 1: And then there has to be a daughter. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe two, but yeah, all right, hi gang, you heard

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Speaker 1: it here. First, the speculation continues on what the new

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Speaker 1: storytelling could be. We would love to hear your feedback

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Speaker 1: on it, so everybody, uh, you know, let us know

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Speaker 1: on the socials and keep the cards and letters coming. Patty,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. We're out of time,

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Speaker 1: but always welcome back and good luck with continued success

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Speaker 1: in your life and career. And remember where y'all lead,

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