1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: She couldn't She cleaned and cared for her children and 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: the man of the house, and of course she didn't 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: talk back. She was both obedient and soft by nature. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: She was a good woman who always made good choices. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: We're good mom's bad choices. 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: Who's single mom who said fuck the patriarchy? Shared all 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 3: their bad choices and sound out they were so bad. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: After all, we're experts, overshares and your new besties. 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: Sit back and enjoy the ride. 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: I can do it. Welcome back to good Mom's bad Choices. 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: I'm America, and I'm Nila, your little titty committee leader, 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: and I'm here to tell you don't need big titties 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: to thrive. You can have sch medium or extra larger petite, 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: which you're like mine a small bee. Don't you dare 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 3: say triple A because they're not. And you can thrive 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: with these big old titties anywhere in a bathing suit 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: in the snow at Disneyland and your while riding. One 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: of the things I used to have problems accepting is 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: when I was on top and I go like this, 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: it kind of looks like utters like a cat, so 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: I don't really remind myself not to do that, but 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: not anymore. Oh like you has always got a art 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: your back. Well, you just can't do this, okay, because 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: I don't look good like that. But that's not the point. 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: I love them and always I don't think. 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: I think all the men, all the men that have 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: seen your titties in that position, have not had that thought. 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: I think women generally are were in our heads. We're 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: not busy because your pussy's wrapped around their peace and 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: thinking about, oh my god, her tits look like utters. 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: You just gotta squeeze your life away and then they 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: won't remember shit. Yep, exactly. 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: Just key distract them, squeeze the life out of their 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: deck stores. 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: Wherever you're at right now, if you're listening to this 37 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: and your headphones at work or in the car, let's 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: just take a collective good mom's squeeze of the person. 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: Squeeze gay squeeze, squeeze, geeze, squeez squeeze, squeze, squeeze, squeeze 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: an exhil, don't say good moms never did anything for you. Yes, 41 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: you're welcome, husband and boyfriend and digmatized nigga that you 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: found last week. 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: I had someone in my DM's yesterday asking about how 44 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: big my boobs were because she's getting a breast reduction 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: and she was curious what size I had, and she 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: has a J and I was like, god, damn, I. 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 3: Wasn't really a J though, because Victoria be lying. 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: I got to ae F. 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: But they but that's not an F, so they'd be 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 3: lying like Victoria's secret. No, but that was no. 51 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: I was an F like not Victoria's secret. Not this 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: when I had When I got frien, I was and 53 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: I was breastfeeding, my tits were added. 54 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I do want to need to see footage? Yeah, 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: I show you actually when if you see my tits 56 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: when I was breastfeeding, that's actually the book. That's actually 57 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: the picture I'm going to present the doctor because they 58 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: looked great and they were probably like a large seat. 59 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: In fact, I'm going to scroll through my photos just 60 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: so I can insert it here because it's very important 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: to me. It's actually my best boob life is when 62 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: I was breastfeeding. Unfortunately, there's milk coming out, so it 63 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: wasn't like thriving like I would want it to if 64 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: they were real, fake, fake, real, but yeah, god, that's 65 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: like my one motivation to get pregnant again. Like, hey, Landa, 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: look at these You never seen this before. 67 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 4: I know. 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: But the only thing about it is when they're that size, 69 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: like they're being used so much. Yeah, actually it's like 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: get the fuck away. It's like you're in like the 71 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: best hit, got the best hits of your life, and 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: they're doing neckless doing that. 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: I mean they're I mean they're doing they're doing that 74 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: fun for you. Really, that's true. And have you ever 75 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: when you're breastfeeding, were you ever like riding and then 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: like you're also like full and then they start to 77 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: go like like you could squirt. I didn't. I didn't 78 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: breastfeed long enough for that to happen. They would like 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: simultaneously just be especially in the shower. 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: I don't think I was having sex too. I was like, 81 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: get the fun. I literally was. That was pretty much 82 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: my whole pregnancy up until maybe one year after I 83 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: had Iri. 84 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: I didn't really I didn't. I wasn't really second. 85 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: I don't even remember. I actually I don't remember any 86 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: I don't really don't remember. I actually can't even remember. 87 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: There's like a big part of I think the early 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: days of motherhood that I literally don't have a don't 89 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: have recklee. Maybe it'll come back later. Maybe if I 90 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: do AMDR. 91 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: Let me tell you why. Why Because it was traumatized. 92 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: I know, because you were traumat I know that's why 93 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: I don't remember either. 94 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: Maybe I could do AMDR and then it'll come back. 95 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: You don't want to, I mean, there's gotta be there's 96 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: some good ship that happened, for sure. 97 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: I think I blocked out, like all of my pregnancy. 98 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: I can't remember, like really shit except I think I 99 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: found my baby daddy and bumble and amongst other things. 100 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: I remember my pregnancy. It's after the pregnancy that I 101 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: don't remember anything. 102 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: I remember after a little bit, but like that full 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: two years, like the pregnancy in that first year were 104 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: a little bit like a blur because I was probably 105 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: like very miserable and said. 106 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: There's a lot going on. You're literally walking into like 107 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: a rite of passage that no one can there's nothing 108 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: that can prepare you. 109 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: Literally, I don't care. 110 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: You've got mom, friends, lots of sisters, siblings, whatever the 111 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: fuck you thought you knew, you don't until you go 112 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: through this. Because your hormones also you're like literally not 113 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: in control anymore. You're out of control your bache, you're crazy. 114 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: You're basically like a host takes over your body. It's 115 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: like a zombie apocalypse because like your hormones take over. 116 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: It's not even you anymore. Good luck. 117 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: So for those that are thinking about having a baby, congratulation. 118 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: It's actually truly like a zombie because the baby, you 119 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: are a host. You're like your hormones stake over your personality. 120 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: The baby takes over your actual nutrients in your body, 121 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: and you like go elsewhere that we don't really know 122 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: yet where you go. But maybe this. 123 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: Maybe we're like stuck in another dimension, like. 124 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: We're like resting. Maybe we're resting to rest because we 125 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 3: know it's like we want to have to stay up 126 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: along a lot of hours. Do you hear that this 127 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: is your only way to rest. You won't remember and 128 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: you won't feel rested at all, But it'll be great. 129 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: Maybe in our second pregnancies it will be different and 130 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: we'll have a memory. 131 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: Well, because we're more self aware now, but also we forgot. 132 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: I'm kind of scared because I know more, and because 133 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: I know more, you know more. 134 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: But also we forgot. 135 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: I forgot, But then, like I know so much information. 136 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: Our bodies are different. What if we have a totally 137 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: different reaction our bodies like some other wild shit. 138 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: That's my biggest fear. It's ten years later, Like I'm 139 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: primarily concerned about chin hair growth. 140 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: I already have that problem. 141 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: I do. 142 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: That's why I'm already have that problem with Actually I 143 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: forgot to pluck that chin hair this morning that I 144 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: saw on the. 145 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: Like triples, and then I'll die. Maybe, So that's not. 146 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: Gonna die die. I guess to another dimension. 147 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get electrolysis. 148 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: I got electrons. 149 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: Did it work? Though? 150 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: I got electrolysis while I was pregnant. I don't know 151 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: if I was supposed to do that, but I did it. 152 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: Not well, it worked, yeah, because I was getting I 153 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: told you I grew a beard on my neck, a 154 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: little patch, a little circa may right here, like between 155 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: ten and fifteen. Really it was substantial, really. 156 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: Like enough that I was like, were you visibly pregnant? 157 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 3: Did the lady know you're pregnant? 158 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: Yeah? 159 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: Oh okay, oh okay, I mean I respine, Yeah, yeah, 160 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: she's fine. 161 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: I was supposed to shave it. 162 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't know what you're suppsed to do. 163 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: I would do the same thing. I would risk it all. 164 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: I mean, we've done it. People have done worse things. 165 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: People smoke crack. 166 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: I just got electrolysis. I fun fact, fun bag. 167 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: If we're really gonna like way the go on the 168 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: spectrum of irresponsible good mom, good mom's bad choices, I'm 169 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: gonna lean more towards the good mom. 170 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: I once watch the documentary about the crack era, and 171 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: what I collected from the whole thing was scientists were 172 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: really surprised that after the crack epidemic that a lot 173 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 3: of the babies that were products of like crack moms, 174 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: they were affected, but not as affected as they thought 175 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: they were going to be. So if you're crack, but 176 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: you're fine, razzle dazzle all extra sprinkle like like quite 177 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: literally and it might be genius, You're welcome. And in 178 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: the sixties they were telling women to drink martinis and 179 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: smoke cigarettes while they were pregnant. So the point is 180 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: we don't really know electrolysis is problem. 181 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: A lot of people from the sixties are fucked up. 182 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: It's not because they are drinking. 183 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: All the people that are in power now around that time. 184 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: Because he's fifties. Those guys are a little it's because 185 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: their moms didn't hug them. That's the real issue. It's 186 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: not the martinis and the hug marbles, the hugs. The hugs. 187 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta hug your kids important. 188 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad that sorry, we just will. I'm glad 189 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 3: that we we've recovered that. 190 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that we've we got hugs and we're giving 191 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: our children hugs. And then I did not smoke crack 192 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: while I was pregnant. 193 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: I did not electrolysis, which was I lady did some 194 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: other things before I knew I was pregnant. It wasn't 195 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 3: smoking crack, though, but there was some other things that 196 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: Luda's fine. She was great. She's wonderful, intelligent, funny. The 197 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: other things might have made gave her a sense of humor. 198 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: We makes. It gives you the giggles. It will give 199 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: your baby the giggles too. Oh God, don't endorse anything 200 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: that we say, because we are not all for entertainment purposes. 201 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: I didn't do any of these things. We were twenty six. 202 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: What we're supposed to do, who knows? 203 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: Like we're children, We were children having children. 204 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: You know, you couldn't tell me I wasn't grown though. 205 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: Oh no, not at all. 206 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: It's like, I'm a grown woman. I am twenty six 207 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: years old, mom, and I'm gonna have this baby, you know. 208 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: I was sitting with my mom yesterday and I was 209 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: telling her, like, some some stuff that's going on with 210 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: my little sister who's nineteen. 211 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: Did you ever respond to that text message? 212 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: I did after I calmed down, and it went, well, 213 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: I'm glad that I was able to be a big sister. 214 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: Not a bitch. That's good for you, because I was thinking, wow, yeah, yeah. 215 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: It took me an hour but and a few rewrites 216 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: of the text message. But I was telling my mom 217 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: about what was happening, and when I left her, I 218 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: was thinking because I was like, she's a child, like 219 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: she's a child, and my Mom's like, well, she's not 220 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: really a child, like she's nineteen, she's a teenager. And 221 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: then I was thinking about my mom listening to her 222 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: daughter tell her this, and I'm obviously I'm not nineteen, 223 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: but I'm still a child in my mom's eyes, and 224 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: just like her thinking. 225 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: The crazy part is will always be children. 226 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 5: I know. 227 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: And then I was but I was just thinking about 228 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: I retelling me this, and I was just like, Wow, 229 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: it just keeps going. 230 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: Huh. 231 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: I just like we always think we're grown. We just 232 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: always think we're grown. 233 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: And we're not. Let's just accept the fact that we'll 234 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: never be grown, We'll never be fully grown, We're always 235 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: we're always growing. I talked to my mom this morning, 236 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: and we literally speak different languages. I don't know if 237 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: my communication language is just off from the world, but 238 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: like we're like having the same conversation but like clashing 239 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: it not. And I'm like agreeing, but we're still arguing, 240 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what the fuck is happening right now? 241 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: She's like, I listened to your episode for the one 242 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: episode for the first time ever. I was like, oh really, really, 243 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: which one was the Moms Heal the World? Oh? God, 244 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: of course, okay, And I was like, I don't think 245 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: that was too bad, but yeah, my mom has not 246 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: listened to my entire podcast in seven and a half years, 247 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: nor has she read my book. And then she told 248 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: me she to end to dive into the book this weekend. 249 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: She's like, what she been saying about me over yet? 250 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: Now that I did you say anything? Did you say 251 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: anything on the episode about her. 252 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: No, I don't. I mean I think I said some things, 253 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 3: but I don't think. I think I actually said she's 254 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: been doing a lot better, and yeah you did. Yeah, 255 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: So that's probably why she's like, let me read the 256 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 3: book now. But today she was like, she'd asked me 257 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: to take her to her colonoscopy and I said yes, 258 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: and then I was like, what time is it, Like 259 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: where is it at and she's like, yeah, well if 260 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: you take me, yeah, well you need to remember, and 261 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, I, okay, yes, I wrote it down. It's 262 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 3: in my calendar. Okay. Yes. She's like, why are you 263 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: talking to me like that. I was like, because I 264 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: feel like I keep saying okay, yes, I'm doing it, 265 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 3: and there's still She's like, I just feel like I 266 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: was just like I just had to let it go. 267 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: And I was just like, uh huh, yeah, I took 268 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: Lenda to school today. 269 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: Moms, mom's moms and moms moms. We just want our point, 270 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: We need to get our point out. We need to 271 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: make sure that you know all the details. Twelve times 272 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: we're all because we're still in mom mode. And also 273 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: maybe she's nervous too, so she's just like saying stuff 274 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: to say stuff and wants you to be in the 275 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: know of everything that's going on because this is a 276 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: medical procedure. 277 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 3: Then she's like, I could just drive myself home. I'm like, 278 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: I think the point is that I drive you home. 279 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: She's like, you just have to show up and tell 280 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: them that you're taking me home. I've done it before. 281 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: I was like, over, the point is that, That's what 282 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: I said? Why would I go all the way there 283 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: to do that? I said, you wait. 284 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 2: Thirty minutes, go get a couple of coffee and come 285 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 2: bring your drug ass home. 286 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: That's what I said. I said, just uber and I'll 287 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: be there to pick you up. Well, yeah, I don't know. 288 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 3: I know anyway, moms never get less stressful or frustra. 289 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: It's because she wanted you to take her and the 290 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: fact that she had to uber there was a disruption 291 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: and the flow of how she envisioned it going. Because 292 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: that's also a mom thing too, like if it's not 293 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: going exactly how they envisioned it going. 294 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: Apparently she envisioned it me just showing up and saying 295 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: hi and leaving and getting back in my own car 296 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: and letting her drive off, fucking off amnesia or whatever 297 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: the fuck. I don't fucking know what she envisioned. 298 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: Not amnesia, amnesia, all theses fetitious. Yeah, you know, like 299 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: much like we said on last week's episode, you know, 300 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: mothers us our mothers. 301 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: We're just girls. We're just the girls, you know. And 302 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: sometimes you don't get the girl that you would necessarily 303 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 3: like hang out with. Yeah you in fact, sometimes you 304 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: get the girl you wouldn't hang out. So then you 305 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: have to really figure it out. I'm really trying to, like, Okay, 306 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: let's figure this out, to figure out this communications. 307 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: So you're in this lifelong relationship with someone, so there's 308 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of phases in which, like you 309 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 2: guys are not on the same page in your personalities. 310 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: And then like later on and lift, I just like 311 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: see how like my relationship with my mom has evolved 312 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: over the years, and how like we had so much 313 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: turmoil at one point in my life, and then like 314 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: how motherhood birthed us into another version of our relationship 315 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 2: and our personalities and her life, her life changing as 316 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: she's aging, you know what I mean, And like now 317 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: we're in a different season of our relationship where like 318 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: I do appreciate my mom more than I did before. 319 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: I also see like the girl in her, you know. 320 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: So it's like it's just never ending. The longest relationship ever. 321 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: It's a fucking longest relationship ever. It's longer than the 322 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: one you'll have with your kid. Maybe maybe around the 323 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: same time actually, but like because she's no, maybe it's 324 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: longer than you'll have with your kid, right, yeah, she's right, 325 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: because I don't know, I'm just thinking, like how long 326 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: how I don't know, it turns on when you have 327 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: your kid, if you're a teen mom or something, but 328 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: it's it's the longest relationship and it's your first relationship, 329 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: and so it's like, I don't know, I think the 330 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: we the hope is that you're like always in in 331 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: this symbiotic relationship with your mother. But that's just not 332 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: the fucking truth. And that's just not the that's not 333 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: the reality of relationships in general, whether that's with your 334 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: partner that you're in love with, whether that's your child, 335 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: whether that's your mother, it's just not you. 336 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: Know, relationships might just very well just like be the 337 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: obstacle that like relationships are the obstacle that will eventually 338 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: catapult you constantly to the next level because you're never 339 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: gonna be triggered unless you are in relation with other humans, 340 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: because you can't really be triggered by yourself. I mean 341 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: you can, but you're gonna likely oh so much you can, yeah, so, 342 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: And like even if you're a loner, if you isolate, 343 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: you're gonna be triggered by the bitch at the restaurant 344 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: or the motherfucker at the gas station, because God's gonna 345 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: be like, oh, bitch, you think you got it away 346 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: from this. No, all close relationships, especially I'm realizing now, 347 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: like in a relationship where I live with my partner, 348 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is the like this is the 349 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: outside of my parents and like roommates that I've had. 350 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: This is the only motherfucker that I have to live 351 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: this closely with. And it's like it's it brings up 352 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: a lot of shit because we haven't I haven't been 353 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: lived in the house with someone in so long since childhood, 354 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: and now I'm here as an adult and I'm like, 355 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: you're getting out of my nerves and I there's nowhere 356 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: to go. I have to deal with it. So I 357 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: realized that, like, yeah, relationships are literally like God's hoops 358 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: that you have to jump through in life so that 359 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: you can get to the next dimension hopefully. 360 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: Maybe Yeah, they're mirrors for sure. I like I've been 361 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: thinking about like how long I've lived alone by myself, 362 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: which has been over seven years. And you know, me 363 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: and shakem have you know, talked about moving in together 364 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: on and off like throughout our relationship. 365 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: Early on, very. 366 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: Early, like I had this like extreme want for him 367 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: to move We're on mushrooms and I was like, you 368 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: need to move in. I know, I I know, I 369 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: know you're not talking. 370 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: I know it. And he was like, you know, of course. 371 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: He's a reasonable smart person in relationship. But but lately 372 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: I've been like just thinking about like what that dynamic 373 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 2: it like would feel like for me to not be 374 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: able to like escape and and like but like knowing 375 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: that at some point like that's the goal, that's the goal, 376 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: you know, but like also feeling my like fear and 377 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: like sometimes it's not present at all, and I'm like, yeah, 378 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: let's do it, fuck it, and other times I'm like, 379 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: oh my god, like what And so I was I 380 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: was thinking about you, and I was just thinking about 381 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: like all of us, all of our friends that have 382 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: been in relationships where like they're living with their partners 383 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: or like people are in seasons of separation and divorces, 384 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: and like I'm feeling what that feels like too, like 385 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: the emptiness of what that feels and like like the 386 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: scariness of what that feels like. And then you graduate 387 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: into like the empowerment in that place and just just 388 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: how that is such an important decision, both sides of it, 389 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: and like how living with someone is like I don't know, 390 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 2: it's like an initiation, right. 391 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an initiation. And also like there's a mourning. 392 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: Like Orlando just recently went back to like the workforce, 393 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: like the real workforce, and I've been like, you know, 394 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: home alone more and like I'm like, oh yeah, like 395 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 3: this is what it feels like to be alone and like, oh, like, oh, 396 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: like getting back into that groove and there's a morning 397 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: of that. Like there was a time where when Luna 398 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 3: would leave, I'd just be alone, you know what I mean. 399 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: And then there was a time where and prior to that, 400 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 3: I was with her dad and that was fucking miserable, 401 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: and you know, like just and then it was just 402 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: me and Luna, and like there's always going to be 403 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: like a mourning of what used to be, because even 404 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: if it right now, Like I know a lot of 405 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: times people feel alone and they're like, I really want 406 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 3: a partner to like to support, and that's great too, 407 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 3: but then there's times when you're in it and you're like, 408 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: I just want to be around my own motherfucking energy, 409 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: and so there's fear around it. But yeah, like luckily 410 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: for me, Orlando just kind of squeezed his way into 411 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: my house, into my state, my city, and my house 412 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 3: without like I approved, but not really, but that's kind 413 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: of what I needed because I probably wasn't gonna be like, yes, 414 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: it's like move in together. He just left a bag 415 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: and then said I'm next time I come, I'm bringing 416 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 3: the rest of my stuff, and I said, okay. But 417 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: I don't think that we really sit in these decisions 418 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: that we make, especially as women, because women are just 419 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: like hand fed this tale that you're supposed to get 420 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 3: married and have babies and move in together and everything's 421 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 3: going to be happy and beautiful, and like, I think 422 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: men are actually more like aware because they are not 423 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 3: given that same like protocol and called like normalcy. They 424 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: can be players and have a bachelor pad forever. Whereas women, 425 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: it's like even when we're all we're like, I want 426 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: a partner and I want a husband, you know, like, 427 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: and I feel that it's been a process and I 428 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: love it. I love I love being in partnership, and 429 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 3: I love like Orlando, and we have a really fun 430 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: household because we have fun together and we joke and 431 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: we play and you know, but sometimes it gets real. 432 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: It's like you already have a responsibility of caring for 433 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: your child, and then another human comes in and then 434 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: like even right now, like I as he's gone back 435 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: to the work force, I feel like an immense amount 436 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 3: of pressure to perform for what like dinner cleaning? 437 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: Why you have you're you're in the workforce too. 438 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 439 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 6: The patriarchy, it's who's patriarching you though You're like you're 440 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 6: you're you're feeling like you're falling back into like having 441 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 6: this Is it because you want to do it or 442 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 6: maybe it's something that you actually like and want. 443 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: To do because you did have big dreams of being 444 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: a housewife at one point in your life, so that 445 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: that feeling obviously exists within you. 446 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I just want to win you want 447 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: to win what I don't know the best, like I 448 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: could be the best wife, yeah, yeah, yeah, but then 449 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: I want that's where that feeling came from. Back now, 450 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: I don't yeah, I think so. And like even now, 451 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: no one said any of these things to me. In fact, 452 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: Orlando was like fucking with me, joking the other day 453 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: about like you don't know how to be a wife, 454 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: and I got super offended and I was like that 455 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: was very rude. And then I stayed up late and 456 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: prepare lunch for the next day for five am. And 457 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 3: then you know, there's just like these like I don't know, 458 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: my mind switches like, oh well, he's bringing home bacon now, 459 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 3: so I gotta cook it and I gotta clean and 460 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: I got to like and even as a child, I 461 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 3: think it also stems from like I would sit around 462 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: all day until I knew my parents were coming home, 463 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 3: and then in the last like twenty minutes of their return, 464 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 3: I would just clean up the whole house because that 465 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: was what I was. I was responsible for like a 466 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: lot of responsibilities as a young woman. And like I 467 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: see that come up in me now, like if someone 468 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: leaves and comes back, I think I'm so to clean 469 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: the whole house. But I just I feel like I 470 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 3: don't know, I can kind of see where men get 471 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 3: it from. Like before, when I was feeling like more 472 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: of the how do you say, the head of household 473 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: that I had more leverage. 474 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: To kind of like to be like I don't want 475 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: to clean it. 476 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah whatever, I'm like, I don't want to need to cook. 477 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: And now I'm like. 478 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: Well, now you're called to be an equals in ways. 479 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: She doesn't like that. I was like, god, do I 480 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: kind of like being the boss of everything and everybody? 481 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: I do a little bit, but shut up, Orlando. Now 482 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: I have to, yeah, find a balance in like all 483 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 3: the things like not trying to overdo so much but 484 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: also trying for somebody else. 485 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this is what relationships are about. It's 486 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: about like he's this new dynamic is asking for you 487 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 2: to expand in some way because you can't run from 488 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: it because this person lives with you now and you 489 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: guys are engaged in building a life together and b like, 490 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: this is how he's shown up for you, like over 491 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: these last you know what, however, long then you know 492 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: this dynamic, this other id dynamic existed and he did 493 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: he has I've seen it, and now that you know, 494 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: there's like this new element coming in where he's you know, 495 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: in the workforce, Like, yeah, there's like a balance and 496 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: that's what you don't like. Okay, I got it. You 497 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: should see you most and that's she's like, and shut 498 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: the fuck up. 499 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: And I also feel like the patriarchy coming out of 500 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: his purse ever since you got a job. I just 501 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: think it just like something switches in men. And then 502 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 3: he's like, he got my shoes, bitch. He didn't say that, 503 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: but in my mind, that's what he's saying. And then 504 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta go to the gym. I gotta 505 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: get my butt right. And then I'm like, I gotta 506 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: cook dinner too, and I gotta clean it up and 507 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 3: I gotta forget the child. What the fuck? And then 508 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, is this like single motherhead again? 509 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: It is? Damn Yeah, it's kind of intense, but as 510 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: you can see, I'm working through it with ease. 511 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: What were you like as a like what we like 512 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: in other dynamics when you lived with men where you 513 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: wasn't because you were younger, so it was different. Do 514 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: you guys like, did you guys have like that my 515 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: baby daddy because I'm thinking about myself, and I was like, 516 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: did I like step into like that housewife mode ever 517 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: even in my last long ass relationship, And I'm. 518 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: Gonna say no, My my my baby daddy didn't really 519 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: step into like the provider role at all. So I 520 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: didn't really feel the pressure. I didn't feel supported that much. 521 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 3: Like in some ways, yes, but I really viewed him 522 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: and and I realize this now because God, bless his heart. 523 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: You know, we knew each other for so long, and 524 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: like as high school sweethearts, I feel like I got 525 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 3: like maybe the worst of him. I ate because we 526 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: were young, but b because I knew him so well, 527 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 3: Like I was thinking that, like is he ever going 528 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: to find someone? Like is he gonna move on and 529 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: like have someone? And I was like maybe, because that 530 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: person will never know him as much as I know him. 531 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: And will I mean never, I don't know, but like 532 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: or knew him or like or knew him, like he 533 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: was so comfortable with me that he would literally show 534 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: his ass like there was no you know, like when 535 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: you get to know someone, you're like presenting the best 536 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: parts of yourself. And I kind of feel bad like 537 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: he he felt like he could wile out in the 538 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: most extreme ways because we were so close. We were 539 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: literally there was times I felt like we were like 540 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: siblings close, like I knew him. I've known him for 541 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: like twenty five years at this point, So there is that. 542 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: But I didn't feel like he showed up in that way. 543 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: So there wasn't like a huge need for me to 544 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 3: show up that way. And I still did. But I 545 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: feel like in this relationship, like you said, Orlando has 546 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: supported me and us and our Luna and like a major, 547 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: major ways. That's very clear and obvious. And so now 548 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: they're like the pressure's on. It's like, oh bitch, now 549 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: it's your turn. Can you do it? And I'm like, ooh, well, 550 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: what what parts of it do you actually enjoy? 551 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: Like maybe just you don't have to be good at everything, 552 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: Like maybe like what part of being in sort of 553 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: any sort of service or balance in that dynamic to Orlando, 554 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: do you enjoy Like do you like cooking? Second dick, Okay, 555 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: there's that. I do, like you were doing that anyway though. 556 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like cooking. I do like cooking. I don't 557 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: like cleaning that much. And I feel like I'm like, obviously, 558 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 3: because if you live in a house with anyone else, 559 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: you're always cleaning. But soon I'm making a cleaner. 560 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yeah, so you just need to 561 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: get a house keeper. You're gonna call the housekeeper in. 562 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: But maybe and then maybe you can cook, and then 563 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 2: you would enjoy that because you do like cooking. 564 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: I do. Yeah, yeah, bitch, So. 565 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: I think that I think you're putting on I'm not 566 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: think like enjoying this a little bit more than you. 567 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe just don't put so much pressure on yourself 568 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: to fucking have to do everything that a wife does, 569 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: Like what is a wife? What is a wife's responsibility 570 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: in your patriarchal programming and. 571 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 3: My patriochal programming, is that like everything like like everything 572 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: else to support the family, which is like cooking, which 573 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: is cleaning, which is I realize that, like I'm not 574 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: good at planning ahead. So if one thing, if I like, 575 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: do one thing lazy, then everything else is messed up. 576 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: If I like, if I you know, like if I 577 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: don't clean the house and it's hard for me to cook, 578 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: and then it's like everything's a disaster. Then it's late 579 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 3: and then I didn't wake up early enough to make 580 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: the lunch, and then everything's fucked up. Snowball it's just snowballing. Ef, 581 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 3: It's all bad. It's late here, fucking don't do anything. 582 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 3: Order pizza. I mean kind of sometimes. I mean, just 583 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: like we were. 584 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: Talking about again in last week's episode, around like surrendering 585 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: to the mess of like motherhood too, and like sometimes 586 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: you're not gonna like fucking hit all the mom marks, 587 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 2: Like sometimes you gotta like do the shortcut wife mark too. 588 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: Keep in mind, I'm only on day fifteen. 589 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: Okay, guess it's a new muscle you're flexing. Yeah, you 590 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: know it's a little flat that, Yeah. 591 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: You know. 592 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: I never like when I think about wife wifing, cleaning 593 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: is not in the I mean I clean anyway, but 594 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: like it being a part of my duty as your 595 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 2: wife is not party. 596 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: You have a cleaner, you don't even think about it, 597 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 3: Like you just come home and it's cleaning and thinking 598 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: about your mind is clear. 599 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: My house gets dirty in one day, maybe every house, 600 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: even though you have a cleaner like your My house 601 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: is dirty within twenty four hours. Again. But I like, 602 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: I will say, like the cooking aspect, because there's parts 603 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: of like I never cooked really for Freddy at all, 604 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: and like cleaned except that fried chicken, except for that 605 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: fight chicken. And there was a reason. But maybe that's 606 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: why I didn't work out. I like tod know, wife duties, 607 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: like none of them. 608 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: Was he expecting that from me? No, I don't think so. 609 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: And the crazy part is my mom was not that 610 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: type of wife at all. I don't know where I 611 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: collected these ideas from, Like my dad was. I'm marrying 612 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: someone who in some ways really does a mirror my dad, 613 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: Like my dad was the primary cook in my household. 614 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: My dad really was like like my mama took us 615 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: to like appointments and make sure we got our fucking 616 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: teeth to the dentist and she like that. But my 617 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: dad really was like hands on. So I don't know 618 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: where I'd adopted these Well, that's probably Latina house Latina 619 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: culture of my housewife, because I literally I think it's 620 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 3: because I didn't see it in my household. 621 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: I was to say, because you didn't see it's probably 622 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: why you have resistance for it. 623 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: And also I kind of like like admired that, like 624 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: I wanted to be pretty but like big cakes and 625 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: stuff like that. But yeah, but I honestly I aspired 626 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: to be a rich housewife, kind of like that lady 627 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: that I we know on the line that I sent 628 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: you the other day that I said, it's kind of 629 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: getting on my nerves, probably because I'm kind of jealous. 630 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 2: I'm not jealous. 631 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: She's like, look at what my cook made me, look 632 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: at my chef, And I'm like, that's how I could 633 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: be a housewife if I have a chef, a maid, 634 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: and the chauffeur. 635 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: I mean that sounds like my kind of housewife. And honestly, 636 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: like I don't. I think I haven't. I haven't somewhat patriarchal. 637 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: I don't even gonna call it that, just traditional traditional 638 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: trad wife things that come up in my relationships, Like 639 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: I do enjoy cooking, But do I want to cook 640 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: every night? 641 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: No? 642 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: Like and cooking is like a new thing that I 643 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: enjoy in my relationship. Do I enjoy cleaning? I like 644 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: to have a clean house. I will clean if I'm 645 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: annoyed and I'm like, fuck it, we just need to 646 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: clean the shit up. But like, do I have that 647 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: part of my duties? No, that's like a shared responsibility, Like. 648 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: Do I washing clothes? 649 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: I fucking hate washing clothes. I fucking hate folding clothes, 650 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: putting them away. I will put them in the machine, 651 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: but the. 652 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: Last those last two steps, you can. 653 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: Count me out. Like I don't need that. So I 654 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: think that like for me to be really true, really 655 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: happy and as a wife in the relationship dynamic like 656 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: a there needs to be a fifty to fifty element. 657 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: The way I got it. 658 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: Fucked up though, was the fifty to fifty like paying element, 659 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: because I did that in relationships where like I went 660 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty with my baby daddy on a lot 661 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: of shit, and I should have never done. 662 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: I should have never did that, Like I don't know 663 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: why the fuck I did that. This bitch is stupid. Yeah, 664 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: he's like, okay, all right, you might pay half the right. 665 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's like I think it's like 666 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: my own like hyperindependence trauma around like money and people 667 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: thinking like feeling like I owe anybody anything. 668 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 3: Also like just liking my it's not even hyper deefents. 669 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: I just like feeling like independent and I've done I'm 670 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: doing something for me, you know. But sometimes at my 671 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: own detriment, like where I'm like fucking at my lost 672 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: last dollar. Don't don't know how I'm gonna like it, 673 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna say anything like that's stupid as hell, 674 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: But the fifty fifty dynamic doesn't doesn't I need that 675 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: dynamic aside from that in my household. But for the 676 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: most part, like, yeah, I want I want service in 677 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: the home. I think that that's going to help. I 678 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 2: think that if I think that will help my relationship. 679 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: And I know, I know that's like yes, that's like okay, bitch, well, 680 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: but yeah, like in my ideal world, if we're talking 681 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: ideally and the life that I'm calling in that I'm 682 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: working really hard for, that is what's going to happen. 683 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: It's what's going to need to happen. 684 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: Because I want to go to lunch with my friends. 685 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to stay home. 686 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: I want to go to my gym and then come 687 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: home and like dinner's already prepared and I just like 688 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: put in the oven. I think that, you know what 689 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: I realized in this like as I'm preparing to uh 690 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: literally walk down the aisle and like expand my family 691 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 3: and like I'm getting older even though I've been an 692 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: adult for a very long time, I realized that like 693 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: the vowels or like the role of a wife isn't 694 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 3: something I've had to really deeply like sit with and 695 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: understand and like vow like vow to because it's been 696 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 3: a concept for so long that yes, I want to 697 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: be married, But I think that these niggas have so 698 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: generally on a mass level, comes so below the bar 699 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 3: that I haven't really it's only been a concept. It's 700 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: never been something I've actually had to put into play 701 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: because most of the men that I've dated have not 702 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: shown up in a way that I've had to like 703 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: really be like, Wow, I feel so supportive, such a 704 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: great man. What do I need to do next? So 705 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: now that I'm in that space, I'm like, oh, ship, 706 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: your turn. I got to read a book or something. 707 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 3: What pages this on? Fuss? I want to chat because 708 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: they know everything. Chat. I think Chatchibut is a she, 709 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: a he, or a they. It's anyone you want, you 710 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 3: can you can assign it. You can assign its gender. Yeah, 711 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: did your talk to you? I don't. 712 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 713 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. 714 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't do that. I don't even know how to 715 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: do that. How do I make him talk to me? 716 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: But I don't know, I don't, I don't like I 717 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: robot in my foot in house? 718 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: How do you become a wife? 719 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: How do you know? Not become? How do you be away? 720 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 3: How do you be? How? What are wife duties? 721 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 7: Be a wife? 722 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: Tragbt Thanks a big and meaningful question, and a good 723 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: one to ask. If you're thinking about marriage, are newly 724 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: wet or just trying to grow in your role? 725 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 3: That's me you start with. 726 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: You know yourself, your values, goals, boundaries, and identity matter 727 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: just as much in marriage as it does before. So 728 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 2: kind of like when you're become a parent. Don't lose 729 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: your identity. Stay grounded, Okay, don't lose your sense of 730 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: self in your role. 731 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: Tell us myself say it again, tullless myself, don't us myself, 732 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 3: tell us myself. 733 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: A healthy marriage includes two whole people, not one person 734 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: disappearing into another. Yeah that fifty to fifty or one one, 735 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: not fifty to fifty's together one plus plus two three 736 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: because third, h I got it. Listen, look at me, nye, 737 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: keep looking at me. 738 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: You got it? Got it? One three plus one equals 739 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: two plus one is three. 740 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 2: Don't forget that, Okay, communicate honestly speak your needs clearly 741 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 2: and listen to your partners' needs. Listen, listen, practice empathy. 742 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 3: I care, but what you're saying you don't always have 743 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: to agree. 744 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: But it helps to meet in the middle. 745 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: I genuinely care. 746 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: You have to be in the middle all the time. 747 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 3: I don't care. 748 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: That's where the fun. The fun is where you don't 749 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 2: meet in the middle. Don't bottle things up. Resentment grows 750 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: in silence. 751 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: That's true. That's the hardest one. Though. 752 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: Build and rebuild intimacy. This includes emotional closeness, physical affection, vulnerability, 753 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 2: and fun. Stay curious about your partner. Don't assume you 754 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 2: know everything about them just because you're married. This is 755 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 2: this is very ethical. 756 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 3: Okay, chatchy, she's been reading the internet. Live live. 757 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: The commitment marriage is as a choice you make daily, 758 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: not just a status. It's not just a concept, bitch. 759 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: It's a real thing. 760 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 3: Okay, not just the ring and the dress. 761 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: Got it? Keep growing? Know what a light? Know what 762 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: a wife isn't? 763 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 3: What is a wife isn't? 764 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: A wife is not a servant. 765 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 3: Oh see write that down, Orlando. 766 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: She is not a doormat or an emotional dumping ground 767 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: or a robot. 768 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 3: Ai, you are. 769 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: Not responsible for managing everything. You can't manage everything, all 770 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: the all the things, all of this. You can't even 771 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: manage all of his emotions. I can't even manage my 772 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: own his responsibilities or his mistakes, you can't manage them. 773 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: He has to deal with that shit himself. Sometimes I 774 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: get a therapist if something feels deeply wrong. Trust your 775 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 2: instincts and seek help. 776 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 3: Therapist. I'm calling eve this. 777 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: A final thought that chatchybt Haspepe. Being a wife is 778 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: ultimately about being a partner. It's about mutual respect, care, 779 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: growth and teamwork, not outdated stereotypes or losing yourself. I'll 780 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: do it, stereott it okay. If you want to talk 781 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: about this in terms of your culture, religion, or personal situation, 782 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: I can tailor the advice to fit that too. Put 783 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 2: for blacks, would you like a version of this in 784 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 2: checklist or journal prompt form? And that's where we're done, 785 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: chatty Chi, that's where the sense to your journal. 786 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 3: Orlando has been at work for six zero point seven 787 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 3: hours and I don't know what to do. Should I 788 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 3: start with the dishes or the laundry? Today I did 789 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 3: clean the kitchen, and I did the dishes and I 790 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 3: put it on stories. 791 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: So I saw it looks great. 792 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 3: I'm trying to be accountable online. If if I do 793 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 3: it online, then I'll do it. It's true, it's kind 794 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: of fucked up. It's the why I take my vitamins 795 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 3: every morning. 796 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 2: It's the line. 797 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 3: It's the only way the Internet's working for. 798 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: Me, the only way if I don't take my vitamins 799 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 2: on Instagram stories, did I take that? 800 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 3: I do it? Am I even a wife? Did you 801 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: see my ring? Did you see me get proposed to? 802 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 3: Like now I'm cleaning death? Yeah? No, wife? 803 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: The wife role is crazy. I was telling Mila before 804 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: we started recording that I've been taking care of my 805 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 2: boyfriend because he was sick over the last two weeks 806 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 2: and just thinking about like through the vows of marriage, 807 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: through sickness and health and how like I was like, 808 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 2: can I do this? Am I? Like one day he's 809 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: going to get old, Like like like my dog Shaka 810 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: that I was annoyed the fuck with when she got old. 811 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 3: That was a dog, babe, I know, but I loved 812 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 3: her at one point. 813 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: Agent I'm just saying, like I had to really ask myself, 814 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: can I care for someone's health long term, like if 815 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 2: you are if you sign up to a healthy person 816 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: right and you don't even consider the fact that they 817 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 2: might potentially fall ill, get sick. And I'm thinking of 818 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 2: like all the people whose partners like have cancer, like 819 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 2: all these different things that you just you didn't sign 820 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: up for. Well, you did sign up for when you said, 821 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: I guess when you've said that vow, but you didn't 822 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 2: know you signed up for until you were there, and 823 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I gotta wipe this nigga's ass. I 824 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: did not what my man's ass for the record, but I'm. 825 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: Saying, would you look, yeah, I would. 826 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: I'm glad we're not there yet. But like, I would 827 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 2: do a lot of things for the people that I love. 828 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: I know that about myself. And that's what this situation 829 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: also showed me is that iye, I would do a 830 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 2: lot for the people that I love. But it does 831 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: require and pull something out of you that sometimes you 832 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 2: have to go looking for. You have to go search 833 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: for it. It's not just there by nature, like you know, 834 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 2: as women, we're always talking about like we're nurturers by nature, 835 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 2: and it's like nurture is by nature to who. 836 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 3: But everyone liked our kids because it came out of 837 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 3: our body and like that reaction. 838 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: Nurture to our partners, but like to what ex stent 839 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: to how far? Like I think that there's everyone has 840 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 2: their their limits and their spectrums in that and it's 841 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: not just like one hundred percent all the time. And 842 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 2: that was surprising for me because I was like, of 843 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,959 Speaker 2: course I would just step into this role. Of course, 844 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 2: it's easy, of course. And then I was like ooh, okay, 845 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 2: and you know, I'm like it was just it was 846 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 2: just interesting because I was really thinking about like, yeah, 847 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: like the vows that you take when you marry someone 848 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: and you say those things through sickness and health, and 849 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 2: how often those things happen and it destroys relationships because 850 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: you weren't really prepared for what that looked like and 851 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: or or you're in it right now and you're like 852 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: rising to the occasion and actually like damn, I didn't 853 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: even know I had this in me. 854 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: Fuck the preparation. Yeah, the preparation. And a lot of us, 855 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 3: I mean most of us are there's like no just 856 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 3: like there's no mommy handbook outside of a good mom's 857 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 3: gude to making bad choices. But there's no guide necessarily 858 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 3: to how to be, you know, a supportive nurturing wife, 859 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 3: and there are I'm. 860 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: Sure the Trachy has a guy. 861 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 3: I've chattypt has everything, but like to embody it and 862 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 3: to like just show up that way is not like 863 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 3: and I unpopular opinion, like all women are not nurturing 864 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 3: and most of us are not. Because if you didn't 865 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 3: see your mom be nurturing, then how the fuck are 866 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 3: you supposed to like actualize something that you've never witnessed 867 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 3: or experienced. Even that time, if you look in our 868 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 3: our archives that time that I was dating a gentleman 869 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 3: named adventure Bae, I mean went to Palm Springs and 870 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 3: this motherfucker out passed out, fainted, and my first instinct was, oh, 871 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 3: hell n hell to the no. I don't even know 872 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 3: you'd like that. I was like, I was pretending to 873 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 3: be nurturing, but in my head, I was like counting 874 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 3: your day, days are numbered, niggas. I was like, he's 875 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 3: too old, he faints in the heat. I was like very, 876 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 3: I was showing up real nurturing. I was petting him, 877 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 3: I was looking into his eyes, but inside I was panicking, 878 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 3: like this nigga has got to go, and that was 879 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 3: the first time I was like, oh no, I don't 880 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: like you enough for this. There is a level of 881 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: love that you get to that then you, I think, 882 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 3: can can catapult you to a nurturing space where you're like, oh, 883 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 3: I love you a lot because I can show up 884 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 3: this way. But in that moment especially, I guess at 885 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: that time it was five years ago. Fuck wow, uh, 886 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 3: Luna was like five, and I was like, I already 887 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 3: have a human outside of me that I have to 888 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 3: care for and nurture and that's like not a liability. 889 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 2: That can be a mother's excuse for a whole lifetime. 890 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 2: Though I don't know is at any point you are 891 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 2: like I don't You're always I'll always feel that way 892 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 2: about my daughter, you know what I mean, Like even 893 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 2: if she goes off into the world and obviously the 894 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 2: relationship changes. But I'm like, I. 895 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 3: Can't handle if anything happens to you five or fifteen 896 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 3: shit like, but that's the thing, like you, I couldn't. 897 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 3: I couldn't handle it if anything severe happened to my child, 898 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 3: I would like show up it all all the way. 899 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 3: But like you have, and that's someone who has come 900 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: out of my body, Like physically, I saw you come 901 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: out of my kuchi. So this other nigga that came 902 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: out of somebody who else is kuchi? I don't know. 903 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like. 904 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: Not my kuchie, not my problem problem. 905 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 3: You came out of it. But you know what I'm saying, 906 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 3: come out of it. You know you might go in 907 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 3: there sometimes, you know, So it is like you really 908 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 3: have to really examine. And I will admit, like I'm 909 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 3: in a space where I'm opened that I don't necessarily 910 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 3: come with these tools and tricks and I have to 911 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 3: like kind of be in a place where I am 912 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 3: empathetic and supportive and showing up for my family in 913 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 3: a way that like I haven't really Like I feel 914 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 3: like it's just getting real right now, Like shit's getting real. 915 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 3: Like I got the ring, got bitch, he got a job. 916 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 3: Now what you're gonna do? You gotta really show up. 917 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna put so much pressure on myself. 918 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 3: But I do feel like even in like the Kenya 919 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 3: ste Caven's Kenya k Stevens class that we took on, 920 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 3: like the marital pre marital stuff was helpful, but I'm 921 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 3: like I need to read books or like at least 922 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 3: make a make a make pillars for myself so that 923 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 3: I can like actively be working on showing up in 924 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 3: this role better. Just like if I was going to 925 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 3: show up at Good Moms and we did a retreat, 926 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 3: now I got to show up in that way. And 927 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 3: we do merch, so now I got to show up 928 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 3: in that way. Like just like any other job or partnership, 929 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 3: or like in school, if I want to learn something, 930 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to class and figure it out. Like 931 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 3: I recognize that that's the only way you get better 932 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 3: if you like ask other wives or you read a 933 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 3: book or the Divine just downloads wife things to. 934 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 2: You or you and just do it and like get on, 935 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 2: get be okay with the discomfort of it. I think, 936 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 2: like even thinking about like you're taking that marital course 937 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 2: with Kenya, and just all the and just the tools 938 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 2: in general that like we've acquired over the course of 939 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 2: our careers in life, Like sometimes it's still hard to 940 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 2: put those things in practice when you're in an argument, 941 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 2: when you're like when you're when you're default at coming 942 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: up and you're like, I don't give a fuck, get 943 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: the fuck out of my face. I don't want to 944 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 2: do animal anime whatever the fuck. But you're like, but 945 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 2: you know, it requires one person to at least be 946 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: able to bring you back to that space, because both 947 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 2: of you are not always gonna meet there and be 948 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: ready to do the work together at the same time. 949 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 2: And like it does require like the someone to be 950 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: in it. 951 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 3: Well the other person isn't. You can't learn the tools, 952 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 3: but like actually utilizing them in a high fucking emotional 953 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 3: place is a whole different thing. I can know to meditate, 954 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 3: I know the fucking water element, bitch. But am I 955 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 3: gonna get angry and go I'll be back. I'm gonna 956 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 3: go meditate and then we'll come back and talk about this. Yeah, 957 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 3: probably the fuck not yeah, because the Philly in me 958 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 3: is too clear and too like rembunct Like you have 959 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 3: to constantly be sharpening that tool. And like even in 960 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 3: our relationship, even as a mom, I'm like, I can 961 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 3: know what to do put your fucking phone down, bitch, 962 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 3: and sometimes you just don't do it. And it's like 963 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 3: and you can like attack yourself and be disappointed and 964 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 3: be yourself, but also gently starting over and doing it 965 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 3: again and giving yourself the opportunity to do it again 966 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 3: and again to like to eventually be better. You're going 967 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 3: to fail before you actually actualize it. But maybe this, like, 968 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 3: especially in a world where everybody's in open relationships, and 969 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 3: I feel like marriage is like not a priority as much. 970 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 3: We're not even like coming up in a socially in 971 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 3: a place where like long term partnership is prioritized or 972 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 3: talked about positively, So we really have to like try. 973 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's true, because, like I mean, I've I guess, 974 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 2: I guess I've had an example of long term partnership 975 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 2: with my mom and that I guess I have, but it. 976 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 3: Still feels foreign to me. 977 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 2: It still feels foreign to me, I think, because the 978 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 2: dynamic that my mom and my stepfather have is like beautiful, 979 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 2: and but it's not like necessarily like what I'm aspiring for, 980 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? And I don't mean 981 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 2: that in an offensive way. I just mean, like, I know, 982 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 2: like what my soul's path and love is supposed to 983 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 2: look like is not the What. 984 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 3: Does it look like outside of the main and the 985 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 3: driver and the cook like mine, Like outside. 986 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 2: Of that passion passion, it looks like passion. It looks 987 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 2: like deep, deep communication. It looks like spontaneity. It looks 988 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 2: like collaboration, it looks like working together, it looks like space, 989 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,959 Speaker 2: it looks like. 990 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 3: Individualism. 991 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 2: It looks like like I invited. I am inviting in 992 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 2: the discomfort. Like even yesterday me and him sat and 993 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 2: like yab yum, and like I was not. I didn't 994 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 2: give a I didn't really want to. And that's what 995 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 2: I was thinking about, Like knowing you have these tools 996 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 2: and you do them and it didn't go how I want. 997 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 2: It didn't go how we hope it goes. But we 998 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 2: did it, do you know what I mean? And like 999 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 2: it's just like but I'm okay. I woke up this morning. 1000 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm okay with that because I'm still in 1001 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 2: the work with it. I'm still doing the work. It's 1002 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 2: just like sometimes the work there's no progress when you 1003 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 2: show up, Like sometimes you sit on a call. Sometimes 1004 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 2: we'll sit on a call and be like did we 1005 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 2: get anything done? 1006 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, But what we showed up literally yesterday, 1007 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 3: but we showed up. What do you think? I don't know, 1008 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 3: I don't fucking know, But like what we showed up? 1009 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? So it eventually eventually 1010 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 3: the answers will be answered. 1011 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 2: But I think that that's like also like what I'm 1012 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 2: realizing relationships are like too. It's like sometimes there's no progress, 1013 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 2: you know, but you're showing up, so. 1014 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 3: There is, there's always a process. 1015 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 2: It's like the consistency of showing up even when like 1016 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 2: no decision has been made, no choices have been resolved, 1017 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 2: like things haven't been resolved, but you're there, you know. 1018 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 2: So I want to be in relationship with my partner, 1019 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 2: and I am in relationship with my partner where we're 1020 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 2: both committed to showing up at least at the very least, 1021 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 2: we're going to show. 1022 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 3: It, like we agreed to be here, So let's do 1023 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 3: our best, let's put our best fit forward, Let's grow 1024 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,240 Speaker 3: in the process and agree that it might not always 1025 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 3: look like this, it might not always be easy, but 1026 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 3: we're here to see out the process whatever that is. Yeah, yeah, 1027 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 3: and I agree. Like the passion, I think that that's 1028 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 3: always been really big for me, Like romanticism and passion, 1029 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 3: and like I even as a like a rebel with thought, 1030 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 3: a rebel hoe without a cause, I was very clear 1031 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 3: that like I wanted a relationship that was like juicy 1032 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 3: and fun and like intimate and like there's chemistry, and 1033 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 3: like I think a lot of times we look at 1034 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 3: movies and like people try to say, like I mean, 1035 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 3: and obviously I've only been in a relationship five years 1036 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 3: or four or five years, but I think that there's 1037 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 3: space for it to be passionate and to be all 1038 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 3: those things and to like still be attracted to your partner, 1039 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 3: Like is it gonna be on ten forever? Maybe not, 1040 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 3: but I do think, like the move the movie theater 1041 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 3: version we see of love, like that high arows, like 1042 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 3: I think that that is is obtainable, and I think 1043 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 3: they tell you like, oh, sex is gonna die, Like 1044 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 3: they give you all these things that to expect, and 1045 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 3: I just like I refuse to accept that, and I 1046 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 3: and I and like, thankfully in my relationship, I'm continuously 1047 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 3: every day proving that wrong, because there's attraction, there's love, 1048 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 3: there's there's sex, you know what I mean, There's spontaneity, 1049 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 3: and I feel like people underestimate like the passion peace 1050 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 3: in relationships and and like long term marriages. Even the 1051 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 3: other day, I was doing like ask a sexologist on 1052 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 3: my stories, and somebody asked, like, I feel like I 1053 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 3: can't be as sexually open as I used to be, 1054 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 3: And I was like, that's because a lot of times, 1055 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 3: like the resentment gets so high, so there's like you 1056 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 3: feel like the other person's constantly judging you, whereas before 1057 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, anything you want to do, baby, you know, 1058 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,919 Speaker 3: and then when things happen and things happen and things happen, 1059 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 3: then you're building up judgments and ideas about the other 1060 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 3: person that don't allow you to like just let them. Yeah, 1061 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 3: but I like that is one of the things that's high, high, 1062 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 3: high on my list, Like I want you to be 1063 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 3: smacking my ass and us to be making out and 1064 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 3: like doing fun shit and like having that desire for 1065 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 3: one another forever or else we're roommates. 1066 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 2: I think that, yes, And I think that there's probably 1067 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 2: people listening that have like maybe, like you said, like 1068 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 2: experience that in their relationship early on or maybe for 1069 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 2: a long time, and then there's a break in the 1070 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 2: in the dynamic and it's like maybe it's just changed, 1071 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 2: like maybe it's over. Maybe we can't get it back. 1072 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 2: And that's where like the showing up part is, that's 1073 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 2: where the work shows up, because their relationships do go 1074 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 2: through seasons like I pray that you and Orlando never 1075 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 2: go through a season like that. But if you do, 1076 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 2: knowing that like there, you can always get back to 1077 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 2: that place, you know, like, but there is a requirement 1078 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 2: for you to at least show up. 1079 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 3: And both be willing. 1080 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 2: I don't even say open, because sometimes one person might 1081 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 2: not really be open in that moment, but you're but 1082 00:51:54,520 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 2: you're still there, you know, to be able to pull 1083 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 2: the other, roll the other one out yeaeah. And that's 1084 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 2: what I hear a lot about, like in marriages too, 1085 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 2: It's like not everyone's always all the way in the 1086 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 2: whole time. It's it's like the beauty the longest relationships 1087 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 2: are like we just were on this. We were our 1088 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 2: our our entity, our whatever we created was on the 1089 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 2: different level at each at each moment, and. 1090 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 3: You weren't when I was at fun. Yeah yeah, yeah. 1091 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 2: And it's like and and that's and that's how you 1092 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 2: know you're supposed to be with that person, you know, Like, 1093 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 2: this is not you saying be miserable in your relationship. 1094 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 3: Hell, don't be miserable, but also do something about it. Yeah, 1095 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 3: that's why I told the gentleman who was in my damns. 1096 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,959 Speaker 3: I was like, well, then do it. Then like, it's 1097 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 3: not it's it's not rocket science. Don't over don't overthink it, 1098 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 3: just do it. And I was like, go to the tribe. 1099 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 3: You know, it's my favorite thing in the world. Go 1100 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 3: to the drive in movie and finger Banger in the trunk. 1101 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 2: Just take ecstasy and you know, you know what Jamila's 1102 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,320 Speaker 2: cure for everything is you need Molly therapy. 1103 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 3: I didn't say for everything at first. I said the 1104 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 3: drive in bait, which is very PG and then I 1105 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 3: said sometimes I will never forget or like our you're 1106 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 3: one of our podcasts. 1107 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,399 Speaker 2: She's like, I'm going, oh, I'm going to New York 1108 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 2: to go do Molly therapy with Young Bey because this 1109 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 2: is how we're going to heal our relationship. And I 1110 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 2: was like, is that right? 1111 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 3: Did I do it? I don't think it worked. 1112 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 2: Thank god it didn't work. 1113 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 3: Oh my good God. I think you did do it. 1114 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 3: But God, thank God for getting out of relationships when 1115 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 3: it's time to get out of them. Because Young Bay 1116 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 3: was not it. Neither was it Venture Bay or any 1117 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 3: of the other bays that were on the list of bays. 1118 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 3: But I mean it's and you know what, and like 1119 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 3: shut out to us for trying and for you know, 1120 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 3: allowing ourselves to grow and to figure out exactly what 1121 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 3: it was that we needed, because without all the taste tests, 1122 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 3: you don't really know what kind of cake you want. 1123 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 7: That's true. 1124 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 3: Gotta taste the flavors, taste the flavors to be like, no, 1125 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,280 Speaker 3: we don't need the peanut and this cake now, No, no, 1126 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 3: don't that frosting doesn't go in that cake. No, that 1127 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 3: muslim frosting is not gonna work. 1128 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 2: No sprinkles please. 1129 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, what a blessing to one day have the 1130 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 3: like have the ability to like go push play on 1131 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 3: eight years of our lives, bitch, eight years of our 1132 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 3: dating life. Because I'm pretty sure we're talking way too 1133 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 3: honestly about whatever the fuck we were doing. But yeah, 1134 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 3: I'm really grateful for that, to like hear the growth 1135 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,439 Speaker 3: in real time. Not that I've ever I have gone 1136 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 3: back really except for that one time we did, like 1137 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 3: the first year or two. 1138 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, and thank you guys for fucking listening. Sorry 1139 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 2: in advance, if you were really frustrated with us for 1140 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 2: a while, or you know, or you were like riding 1141 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 2: like gabbitch, I feel you. Yeah, it's been a it's 1142 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 2: continued to be a beautiful ride. And one day I 1143 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 2: will go back and listen to all of our episodes, 1144 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 2: hopefully before my child ever does. 1145 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 3: And if you're new here, and maybe you're in your 1146 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 3: you know, late twenties, early twenties, early thirties, and you 1147 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 3: know some of this other shit we're talking, doesn't it 1148 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 3: resonate with you. Just go to the beginning. Just go back, 1149 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 3: just go to. 1150 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 2: The We weren't always you know, engaged in things of 1151 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,760 Speaker 2: emotionally mature. 1152 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 3: We weren't. We weren't and like. 1153 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 2: Very immature, very think we were mature. I mean, I'm 1154 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 2: just kidding. I mean there was some emotional immaturity for sure, 1155 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 2: for sure, but at least we were self aware. 1156 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 3: We were self aware, you know, we were like, we're 1157 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:46,320 Speaker 3: being stupid and it's so fun, woo wow, good old days. 1158 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 3: But yeah, if you are just joining us, so you 1159 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 3: started in the middle, I really do highly recommend that 1160 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 3: you go back to the beginning. There are a lot 1161 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 3: of gems there. We went through a lot of shit. 1162 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 3: We and you know, we didn't just show up here 1163 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 3: at good good media looking this good way to go 1164 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 3: through some hoops jump through some fire, date some frogs 1165 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 3: before we got here. Okay, my tits were smaller in 1166 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,919 Speaker 3: the beginning, for only like six months. You got those 1167 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 3: tits very early. Look at my old tits. You're gonna 1168 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 3: really have to look. 1169 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 7: Is it terrort time? 1170 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 3: It's terot time. 1171 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 2: Before we do terror, let's just let's just take a moment, 1172 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 2: just reset the energy. Do a few deep breaths. Wherever 1173 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 2: you're at. You're driving, please don't crash your car. Keep 1174 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 2: your eyes open, keep your eyes open, just you know, 1175 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 2: try to take a few breaths. 1176 00:56:44,840 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 4: In through your nose, out your mouth, Relax your. 1177 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 3: Jaw, am exhale was sound, Do a little moan because 1178 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 3: life is sweet and everything is good. Ah mm hmm. 1179 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 7: Okay, now it's territyed. 1180 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 3: Just a little reset. 1181 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 2: Do you want to pull my dear? 1182 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 3: Sure? Okay, she pulled the tower and I'm not gonna lie. 1183 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 3: It looks kind of chaotic. There's people jumping out of 1184 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 3: a tower that's on fire and maybe bleeding water at 1185 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 3: the automn It's okay, I think, so, okay, it's okay. 1186 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 2: The Tower card usually signifies sudden change, upheaval, chaos, revelation, 1187 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 2: awakening when the Tower card appears in a tear reading. 1188 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 2: Expect the unexpected, massive change, upheaval, destruction, and chaos. It 1189 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 2: may be divorced death or a love of a loved one, 1190 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 2: financial failure, health problems, natural disaster, job loss, or an 1191 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 2: event that shakes you to your court, affecting your spirituality, mentalit, mentally, 1192 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 2: and physically. There's no escaping it. Change is here to 1193 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 2: tear things up, create chaos, and destroy everything in its path. 1194 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 3: I know I shouldn't picked this card. You did. Yeah, 1195 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 3: I was like, I shouldn't pick that one, and I 1196 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 3: picked anyway? Do you want to pick another one? Yep? Okay, 1197 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 3: okays for somebody else's driving. 1198 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 2: After Tower experience, you will grow stronger, wiser, and more 1199 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 2: resilient as you developed a new perspective on life you 1200 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 2: did not even know existed. These moments are necessary for 1201 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 2: your spiritual growth and enlightenment, and truth and honesty will 1202 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 2: bring about a positive change, even if the experience, even 1203 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 2: if you experience pain and anxiety throughout the process. Thankfully, 1204 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 2: the Tower doesn't always associate with pain and turmoil. If 1205 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 2: you are a highly aware and in tune with your 1206 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 2: inner guidance system, then this tarot card can indicate a 1207 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 2: spiritual wakening or revelation. You may be able to see 1208 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 2: the cracks forming and take action before the whole structure 1209 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,919 Speaker 2: comes tumbling down. You may create a massive transformation before 1210 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 2: you reach the point where change is your only option. Okay, 1211 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 2: with this other card you pulled, my dear, This one 1212 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 2: looks a little eight of swords, which also is Look, 1213 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 2: this is the one where she's able to or like 1214 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 2: she feels like she's in a bind, but she's actually not. 1215 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 2: She just has to turn around. 1216 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 3: What is this nine sorts? Yeah, she's blindfolded, she has 1217 00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 3: her hands behind her back, and yeah, I know this one. 1218 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Actually negative thoughts, self imposed restriction, victim mentality. The aid 1219 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 2: of swords reveals that you are trapped and restricted by 1220 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 2: your circumstances. You believe your options are limited with no 1221 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 2: clear path out. You might be in an unfulfilling job, 1222 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 2: an abusive relationship, a significant amount of debt, or a 1223 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 2: situation way out of alignment with your inner being. You 1224 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 2: are now trapped between a rock and a hard place 1225 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 2: with no resolution available. However, take note that the woman 1226 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 2: in the card is not entirely imprisoned by the eight 1227 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 2: swords around her. And if she wanted to escape, she could. 1228 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 2: She merely needs to remove the blindfold and free herself 1229 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 2: from the self imposed bindings that hold her back. The 1230 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 2: aid of swords is often associated with a victim mentality. 1231 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 2: You surrendered your power to an external entity, allowing yourself 1232 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,919 Speaker 2: to become trapped and limited in some way. At times, 1233 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,919 Speaker 2: the eight of Swords indicates that you are confused about 1234 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 2: whether you should stay or go, particularly if you are 1235 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 2: in a challenging situation. It is not as clear cut 1236 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 2: as you would like it, making the decision very difficult. 1237 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 2: You have one foot in hoping things can work out, 1238 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 2: but your other foot is out the door, ready to 1239 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 2: leave again. This card is asking you to get out 1240 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 2: of your head and drop down into your gut and 1241 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 2: your intuition so you can hear your inner guidance. Your 1242 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 2: thoughts are not serving you right now. Your intuition is 1243 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 2: trust yourself. 1244 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 3: Hmmm, interesting pair that we pulled here. Hope that resonates 1245 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 3: with the collective. Do you have affirmation for us today? 1246 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 7: M You are naughty by nature. 1247 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 3: You're naughty by nature. You are naughty by nature. You 1248 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 3: are naughty by nature. 1249 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 7: You may not be a nurture by nature. 1250 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 3: But you will, you are, you are not by nature. 1251 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 3: We're inviting you to step into your naughtiness. It's today, 1252 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 3: it's Friday, as we're recording, whatever day it is. When 1253 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,479 Speaker 3: you listen to this Wednesday, hump Day, Tuesday, titty day, 1254 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 3: whatever day, step into your naughtiness. 1255 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 2: Be naughty by nature, bad me meaning like. 1256 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 3: Sexually not just don't be just naughty. Don't be a bitch, 1257 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 3: nasty bitch like Tanash. I've been a nasty girl. 1258 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 2: God that I took over the internet first, I think 1259 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 2: I've been a nasty girl. Somebody gonna match my you 1260 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 2: know what, she wouldn't be coming up with. 1261 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 3: She got a lot of hits. 1262 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 2: She's like low key that person that one day we're 1263 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 2: gonna go to one of her shows, and I'd be like, God, 1264 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 2: it's like jay Loo. When I went to see fucking 1265 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 2: j Loo. I was not even like a big j 1266 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 2: Loo fan, but I went and saw her in Vegas 1267 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 2: by chance you and I was like this writch has 1268 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 2: so many goddamn hits. 1269 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 3: That came on yeshay in the car right after I 1270 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 3: left parent teacher night and I gave you all my tress. 1271 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 3: Would you come for me and call me banks. Oh, 1272 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 3: but some of those notes that she hits song, But 1273 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 3: that's why I love them, because I can hit everyone, 1274 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 3: and I give you that one. Got this comedy is. 1275 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 2: She hits some really what is that line? It's like 1276 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 2: really bad. She really tries to. 1277 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 3: Go for it. She shouldn't have. 1278 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm talking. But that's like towards 1279 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 2: the end of the song. 1280 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 3: No, there's a there's a whole Oh my god, she. 1281 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 2: Has a breakdown or breaks it down and dance moves. 1282 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 3: Oh there's that's also. 1283 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,919 Speaker 2: It's a not the one that Christina million. 1284 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, like Christina got paid in that DJ playing my son, 1285 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 3: because turn it up and turn it on, play play. 1286 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 2: She didn't write if you had My love Christina. 1287 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably I don't any of that ship. 1288 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 2: That's true. She probably got. 1289 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Anyway, I was having deep nostalgia, so I was leaving 1290 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 3: sad from the parent teacher night because Luna is going 1291 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 3: to be eleven soon, she's going to be her last 1292 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 3: year in elementary school. And then that same song came 1293 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 3: on and I'm pretty sure it came out when I 1294 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 3: was in sixth grade, and I was just like got 1295 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 3: her to speak to me via j Low Oh my god, 1296 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 3: me like a right back to elementary school. 1297 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 2: Wow? 1298 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 3: Anyway, God, some mom shites going fast. Be present, be present, 1299 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 3: and be naughty by nature. 1300 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 7: Be naughty by nature. 1301 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. If you haven't joined our 1302 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 3: newsletter at good Momsbad Choices dot com, follow our personal 1303 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 3: pages and our Instagram Good Mom's Bad Choices, Good Mom's Underscareboard, 1304 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 3: Underscore Bad Choices. 1305 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's it. 1306 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 3: The Good Vibe re treat to be about to release 1307 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 3: our twenty twenty six retreats and we are going places. Okay, 1308 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 3: we going places, places and spaces and you can follow 1309 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 3: me at Mila underscore map with two p's. 1310 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 2: Are you going to change that? 1311 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 3: Soon? 1312 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 2: Is going to feel like underscore? 1313 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 3: Roy? 1314 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,479 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do that? 1315 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna hyphenate. 1316 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 2: Mila Underscore Map Roy. 1317 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm changing my Instagram bitch, Oh, 1318 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 3: you can keep it the same. I did never I 1319 01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 3: think so I didn't think about my Instagram. I think 1320 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 3: about my the. 1321 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 2: Things you haven't thought about. Wife, got to think about 1322 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 2: these things my on my Amazon packages, all these cons here? 1323 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 3: Are you like? What are we doing with Instagram? 1324 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 5: Well? 1325 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 3: I already had a deep conversation with my husband that 1326 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 3: I'm a famous author, so I can't really do too 1327 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 3: much with that. I can't change my full name. It's 1328 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 3: my it's my stage name, it's my author name, Jamila 1329 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 3: mapp But I could. I didn't put it. 1330 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 2: You could put Jamiala mapproy. 1331 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 3: I offered him the roy. I don't know if I 1332 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 3: will take that on as an author in my like 1333 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 3: future endeavor books. 1334 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 2: But the good thing he's only written one book, so 1335 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,440 Speaker 2: there's still there's still it's a best seller. 1336 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 3: So it's really it's it's it's basically it could be 1337 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 3: basically ten. So the point of the matter is I'm 1338 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 3: already semi famous with Mela map so I could just 1339 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 3: having a hard time. That's the wife thing, aren't you. 1340 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 3: I don't think this. I don't think this is This 1341 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 3: is the part I'm having a hard time with. This 1342 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 3: is where I'm really clear actually following Amazon, Mela Mapparo. 1343 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 3: I've been putting roy on my last name on my 1344 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 3: packages for a long time on Instagram. I don't know 1345 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 3: that seems a little ser Okay, okay, okay, already have 1346 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 3: barely have a couple. 1347 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 2: Anyway, follow her for now at Nila Underscore map. 1348 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 3: You can also followed follow Huccie mom. 1349 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 2: And dad, Hoochie mom and Daed. You can follow me 1350 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 2: at Watch Erica and yeah, be well, take care of 1351 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 2: yourself and we love you. 1352 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm living so good? Can't you tell? 1353 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 5: I went through a drought. That's until I found out. Well, 1354 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 5: madem have been known art. I used to be broken tail, 1355 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 5: now got the blues. Dancer might Beyonce Jisell throat shot 1356 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 5: with pop and his cow wearing our voices. Patriarchy kept 1357 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 5: it in the box to exploit its women put the 1358 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 5: p and powers. 1359 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 3: So what's pointing that they want me to be good? 1360 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 3: So I made bad choices. 1361 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 5: Bad mom not a bad mom, but a bad mom. 1362 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 5: Gitter's in on, put cannabis. 1363 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:56,919 Speaker 3: In her bath. 1364 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 5: Bomb walked in bosses cap and I blew his cat 1365 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 5: boss dog. Now I'm immune to the cat called Herbie 1366 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 5: in the waisted straight to it like a dollar. 1367 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 3: Sign, mother, rent the lover when too what? 1368 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,560 Speaker 5: It's like a water sign where you're rent the winter 1369 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 5: essential will when the summertime? 1370 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 3: I do what doll ain't no one that needs to 1371 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 3: run it by