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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Ack In out number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Buck is out today. We'll be back with me on Monday.

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Speaker 2: I'll be up by the way in New York City

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Speaker 2: on Monday doing the Tunnel the Towers golf event, helping

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Speaker 2: to raise money for that fabulous organization. And we'll have

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Speaker 2: Senator ran Paul in office with us.

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Speaker 1: By the way.

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Speaker 2: For those of you listening to Damielle there, I wanted

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Speaker 2: her to be able to get her full story in.

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Speaker 2: We ran right up against the end of the hour.

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Speaker 2: She's going to join us at two thirty Eastern to

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Speaker 2: react to the Mel Tucker discussion the Brenda Tracy lies

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Speaker 2: that have cost mel Tucker his job Michigan State. I'll

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Speaker 2: also go ahead and reiterate if you want to weigh in.

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Speaker 2: I want to be able to take some of your

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Speaker 2: calls on this. Obviously it's Friday. We take many calls

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Speaker 2: on Friday. Eight hundred and two eight two two eight

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Speaker 2: eight two. That's still to come. Joe Biden has spoken

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Speaker 2: and uh, well, he didn't make much sense, as typically

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Speaker 2: happens whenever Biden speaks.

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Speaker 1: We'll have some cuts for that.

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Speaker 2: Going forward with you, but I want to bring in

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Speaker 2: my friend Chip Roy now from the great state of Texas,

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Speaker 2: talk about the situation in the House of Representatives and

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Speaker 2: more before we get there. Though, your wife, Sina Aggi,

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Speaker 2: you are a Texas Longhorn fan. Texas plays against Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: this weekend, A and M plays Alabama next year. A

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Speaker 2: and M and Texas will reignite the rivalry that is

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Speaker 2: one of the best in all of sports.

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Speaker 1: Is that a good thing or a bad thing for

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Speaker 1: your marriage?

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Speaker 3: Well, Clay, great to be hon and I'd much rather,

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, of all the weeks for this speaker

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Speaker 3: situation to occur, it has to be the week when

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Speaker 3: we've got Tech, as you said, and M Alabama and

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Speaker 3: OU Texas, and so I'm going to get to go

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Speaker 3: to neither game, but I'll be able to go with

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Speaker 3: my kids to four h and show their goats and

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Speaker 3: all that, which is good. But look, the rivalry is

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Speaker 3: long overdue to come back. This is fifteen years now

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Speaker 3: of just an absolute, I think disaster to not have

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Speaker 3: that rivalry game. But I'm excited about both the games

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Speaker 3: this weekend. Texas on you. I mean, oh you. I

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Speaker 3: think it's going to be out for revenge after getting

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Speaker 3: swatted last year. What was the score forty something to seven?

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Speaker 1: Forty nine? Zip?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, beat down. And look, I think it's gonna depend

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Speaker 3: a lot on Texas running running game. You know what

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Speaker 3: Brooks had what two hundred and I don't know, twenty

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Speaker 3: yards or something against Kansas last week. And you know,

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Speaker 3: the the Texas is is better this year. OU is better.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's going to be a good competitive game.

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Speaker 3: But Texas defense is a lot better. And we'll see

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Speaker 3: what happens on the line. I think our our defensive

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Speaker 3: against you on the interior, So we'll see. I think

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be but who wants it more? And you

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Speaker 3: know A and M Alabama, it's going to depend a

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Speaker 3: and M because what's his name? What is that? Max Johnson?

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Speaker 3: I think whatever the backup is so sing uh that

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Speaker 3: that'll be an interesting one. What happens down there. I

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Speaker 3: think that's gonna be whether whether Alabama's trying to show

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Speaker 3: up and demonstrate they're still legit or whether A and

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Speaker 3: M's trying to, you know, overcome some of the obstacles

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Speaker 3: they've had. So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: So solid analysis there. I'll be an agui land can't wait.

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Speaker 2: We've got a great affiliate down there carrying the show

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Speaker 2: every single day, longtime Rush supporters as well, So I

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Speaker 2: look forward to seeing a lot of Bama and Aggie fans.

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Speaker 2: I'll have my kids and my wife with me. All right, Chip,

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Speaker 2: Let's let's dive right into what's going on here on

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Speaker 2: Capitol Hill. I believe we have two announced candidacies. You

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Speaker 2: can correct me if I'm wrong. Jim Jordan and Steve

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Speaker 1: They're going to run for it.

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Speaker 2: Do you suspect that this process will be relatively smooth?

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Speaker 2: Is it going to be a mess? Take us into

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Speaker 3: Yeah, First of all, look, I mean both Steve Scales

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Speaker 3: You know. Look, I've not publicly said to I'm going

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Speaker 3: here you know, I've got a long standing friendship with Jim.

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Speaker 3: The first thing I ever did when I was a

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Speaker 3: congressman elect in twenty eighteen nominate Jim for a minority

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Speaker 3: I did not think that was the right course of action.

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Speaker 3: I thought Kevin had done a pretty good job trying

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Speaker 3: I thought we needed to do a better job on

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Speaker 3: we're in the process of figuring it out. Jim's running,

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Speaker 3: Steve's running. We're going to have a conference call with

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Speaker 3: Hearn is thinking about running, and then I'll probably you know,

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Speaker 3: make my public position later this afternoon about what I'm

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Speaker 3: going to do on endorsements. But here's the bottom line is,

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Speaker 3: you know, Jim is a solid conservative, Steve's a great guy.

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Speaker 3: We're going to have to make a decision as a

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Speaker 3: going to the conference chairwoman at least to find it

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Speaker 3: as to how we're going to make our choice. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of us that say that, Look, we've gone

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Speaker 3: to the floor a number of times. Let's figure this

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Speaker 3: out behind closed doors. Let's get two hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 3: to finish the appropriations bills, we've got to secure the border,

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Speaker 3: we got to check this whole blank check to Ukraine stuff,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that either Jim Jordan or Steve Scalice

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Speaker 2: what you said in your ideal world, it sounds like

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Speaker 2: sort of graciously say, okay, I'm not going to stand,

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Speaker 1: Is that a good representation of what you would prefer?

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Speaker 3: That's the goal? And look, we're at a time we've

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Speaker 3: I mean, even just last week, one of our Democratic

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Speaker 3: you know, crime control. You know, our borders are wide open,

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Speaker 3: You know Ukraine, it's always a blank check, two trillion

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Speaker 3: solutions to those problems. So if we have some disagreements,

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Speaker 3: but it happened. So let's keep moving forward. Let's unite,

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Speaker 3: but look, it's going to be a little open. The

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Speaker 3: that I think we need to unite as a conference

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Speaker 2: To Congressman Chip Roy of Texas. You said you want

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Speaker 3: I think that there is you know, there were a

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just hearing committee chairman what he's been

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Speaker 3: an interesting debate. Now here's the trick. If they're ten

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Speaker 3: so those are some of the questions. Right, Trump's come

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Speaker 3: in hard for Jim. Will that get us to unanimity

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Speaker 3: The motion to vacate is a tool that has existed

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Speaker 2: Eighteen members of the House Republican Caucus are in districts

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Speaker 1: Right, it's a big group.

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Speaker 3: Sure, let me just say this, I mean one thing again,

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Speaker 3: We get along. This morning we jointly led this letter

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Speaker 3: We have to represent our constituents. They have to respect that.

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Speaker 3: For me, I'm going to throw down over the border.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I'm good with that. I actually think

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Speaker 3: You can say whatever you want about me. I don't

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Speaker 2: We'll do that's a congressman, Chip Roy, awesome, dude. We'll

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Speaker 2: So I think you just got a pretty good preview

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Speaker 1: This idea that Facebook.

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Speaker 2: And Instagram and YouTube which is owned by Google, and

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Speaker 2: Twitter which now is owned by Elon Musk thankfully, but

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Speaker 2: that they can control what is.

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Speaker 1: And is not seen.

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Speaker 2: That's how we started off the show today with me

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Speaker 2: being frustrated. The biggest power that media gatekeepers have is

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Speaker 2: in choosing what stories to feature, and it's amazing how

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Speaker 2: often the stories that are featured are not representative of

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Speaker 2: the larger issues that exist in this country. And so

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Speaker 2: that's one reason again I feel very fortunate to be

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Speaker 2: have found it out kick to run it, to be

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Speaker 2: able to talk to you guys every day on this

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Speaker 2: program because we can cut through some of the of

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Speaker 2: the absence of stories like I was talking about earlier

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Speaker 2: with mel Tucker, and the incentive structure we've created. I

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Speaker 2: believe for women to lie by arguing as Democrats do.

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Speaker 2: Hashtag believe all women, and we're going to take some

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Speaker 2: more of your calls about that. But Jim Jordan is

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Speaker 2: right on those issues, how important it is to have

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Speaker 2: a true marketplace of ideas and why we must fight

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Speaker 2: for it zealously, because without a marketplace of ideas, we

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Speaker 2: truly cannot have a democratic republic in this country because

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Speaker 2: you can't argue for the things that you care about

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Speaker 2: the most, and the media won't cover it when you

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Speaker 2: do argue it if social media is rigged as it

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Speaker 2: has been in the past. So I think Jim Jordan's

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Speaker 2: gonna end up Speaker of the House, and I think

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Speaker 2: Jim Jordan will do a really good job towing the line.

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Speaker 2: But there's actually pictures of me. I think almost the

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Speaker 2: only time I ever wore a mask in public had

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Speaker 2: to do it when I was flying on airplanes. Things

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Speaker 2: like that. They made me testify in front of Congress

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Speaker 2: while wearing a mask in March of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about craziness have we just we're

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Speaker 2: just gonna pretend that that didn't happen where everybody who

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Speaker 2: was even speaking had to wear a mask. Remember when

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Speaker 2: you would see reporters on television standing outside with a

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Speaker 2: mask on while they're talking into their microphone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is craziness.

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk some with Rand Paul about this on Monday,

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Speaker 2: because Rand Paul is going to be in studio with

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Speaker 2: me in the in the it should be a really

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Speaker 2: fun interview, I think in New York City. But Ali

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Speaker 2: just texted me you see that picture of me. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't even talk in that stupid mask. It kept falling down.

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Speaker 2: I kept having to pull it back up. I was

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Speaker 2: sitting at a table by myself in the house I

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Speaker 2: think it's the House Judiciary Committee room, and there still

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Speaker 2: were a lot of people who were appearing via zoom

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Speaker 2: because they were afraid they were gonna die if they got,

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Speaker 2: you know, COVID. I'd already had it a couple of times,

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Speaker 2: I think at that point I hadn't yet taken over

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Speaker 2: this show with Buck. But I'm sitting there with that

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Speaker 2: stupid mask on my face, trying to talk into a microphone.

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Speaker 1: The mask doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: You can't speak with a mask on anyway, and everybody

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Speaker 2: in the whole room who was testifying had to have

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Speaker 2: masks on.

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Speaker 1: Ali, you see that picture, It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It basically was underwear on my face, and not even

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Speaker 2: cool underwear on my face. You remember that guy on

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Speaker 2: the I'm sure you remember that picture that went viral

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Speaker 2: ALI of the guy on the New York City subway

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Speaker 2: with the woman's thong on his face as his mask.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that? That is one of the one

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Speaker 2: of the great moments in masking theater history, was when

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Speaker 2: the guy just wore the lacy thongs as his mask.

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Speaker 2: This is a true hero, the guy who wore the

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Speaker 2: lacy thong. There was a red thong that he decided

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Speaker 2: to wear to protect himself and others from his breath particles.

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Speaker 2: I got a VIP email from k I appreciate this Clay,

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Speaker 2: first time writer. Tell your wife congrats again. Wife passed

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Speaker 2: the bar exam. The bar exam results just posted today

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Speaker 2: for those who took him in the summer.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing her story.

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Speaker 2: I'm fifty three years old and will begin my third

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Speaker 2: graduate class in the last year. She said she works

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Speaker 2: full time too. I was thinking of getting my master's

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Speaker 2: degree in legal studies. Yesterday I was considering if I

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Speaker 2: should take the JD next program. After hearing your wife's story,

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to do it now.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for inspiring me look an ideal world.

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Speaker 2: Most of us are going to live far longer today

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Speaker 2: than our parents, our grandparents, and our great grandparents did.

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Speaker 2: I would like to think so, and so I was saying,

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Speaker 2: my wife is in her forties like I am. We

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Speaker 2: met initially when I was twenty two years old. We

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Speaker 2: were first year law students at Vanderbilt. I was recruiting

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Speaker 2: all of the pretty girls that I could meet to

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Speaker 2: be on our co ed softball team. So that was

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Speaker 2: my excuse to go up and talk to my wife,

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Speaker 2: was that I was recruiting. And I didn't tell her

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Speaker 2: that I was only recruiting pretty girls. But we had

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Speaker 2: a really good look in co ed softball team. That's

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Speaker 2: how we met. So first year Vanderbilt law students, she

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Speaker 2: at the time did not like law school. She finished

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Speaker 2: her first year, she decided, you know what, the practice

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Speaker 2: of law is not for me. She ended up going

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Speaker 2: back to school and got her graduate degree and became

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Speaker 2: a school guidance counselor. She worked in a high school

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Speaker 2: in the Nashville area for several years. Obviously, we then

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Speaker 2: go on and have three kids. Got a fifteen year old,

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Speaker 2: a thirteen year old, a nine year old, a tenth grader,

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Speaker 2: seventh grade or third grader, three boys, and so as

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Speaker 2: you can imagine, kids are a handful. There's lots of

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Speaker 2: moving parts. I don't exactly have the most normal of jobs.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the road back then, even way more than

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Speaker 2: I am now, traveling all the time for the jobs

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Speaker 2: that I was doing. And so she was focused on

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Speaker 2: being a mom. Eventually she started staying home with the kids.

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Speaker 2: But then the kids all got into school and all

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Speaker 2: of them are in school all day, and she, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of has a moment to sit back and say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what's life going to be like now? And she decided

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Speaker 2: to go back to law school and finish her last

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Speaker 2: two years because she finished that first year. Law school

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Speaker 2: is three years and no one at Vanderbilt Law School

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Speaker 2: had ever requested to come back and complete their legal

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Speaker 2: training after that big of a gap, almost twenty years

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Speaker 2: between when she finished her first year and when the

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Speaker 2: kids are all in school, and she now has time,

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Speaker 2: and my schedule's calmer, and I've got a home studio

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Speaker 2: and I'm not traveling as much, and I can be

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Speaker 2: more involved in making sure that I'm getting the kids

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Speaker 2: to and from school and helping them.

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Speaker 1: On a daily basis.

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Speaker 2: And so she went back to school, and for the

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Speaker 2: last two years, I mean, I've been doing this radio program,

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Speaker 2: I didn't really want to talk about the fact that

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Speaker 2: she was in law school because I worry. If I talk,

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Speaker 2: I tell you guys what I do, but a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of times I worry.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about what my kids do

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Speaker 2: or my wife does, because I don't want to get

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Speaker 2: them judged based on what people think about me, because,

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, I know it's going to shock

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Speaker 2: you all. There are a lot of people who don't

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Speaker 2: like me very much. I think I'm wonderful. My mom

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Speaker 2: thinks I'm wonderful. But there are a lot of people

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Speaker 2: out there who don't like the opinions that I share

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Speaker 2: every day, and they would attack me for it, and

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Speaker 2: they do. And I'm fine with that because I'm a

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Speaker 2: public figure, and like I'm saying, there's lots of nasty

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Speaker 2: things that get said about me. On a day to

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Speaker 2: day basis, that's life. But I don't want those attacks.

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Speaker 2: I'm old school in some ways. I don't want those

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Speaker 2: attacks to go on to my family. You know, even

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Speaker 2: the Mafia didn't attack families. You think about where we

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Speaker 2: are as a society. Back in the day, the mafia,

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Speaker 2: they would walk up and they would wipe you out

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Speaker 2: while you're eating your pasta in the wrong restaurant. Your

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Speaker 2: guys don't protect you. They would wipe you out. They

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Speaker 2: didn't go after wives or kids. There was honor among thieves.

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Speaker 2: They were like, you know what, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: go after the mafia Don's family. Now, if you had

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Speaker 2: a kid and they grew up and they became a

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Speaker 2: member of the mafia, that's different. But I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: they didn't go after wives.

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Speaker 1: There was an.

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Speaker 2: Honor even among thieves and scoundrels that you didn't go

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Speaker 2: after everybody's got a wife, everybody's got kids.

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Speaker 1: That's not fair.

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Speaker 2: They didn't sign up for the life you as the mafia.

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Speaker 2: Don You as the mafia member, you signed up for

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Speaker 2: the life. You put yourself in peril. As a result,

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Speaker 2: they understood that that was the code. Is it amazing

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Speaker 2: how that code really doesn't exist anymore. And I'm not

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Speaker 2: talking about people like Hunter Biden when you're clearly making money,

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Speaker 2: like he's basically a member of the mafia. Right when

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Speaker 2: you decide, hey, I'm going to go out and I'm

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Speaker 2: going to try to make money, I'm going to put

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Speaker 2: myself forward as a member of the Biden crime family

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Speaker 2: like you are now in the mafia. That's fair gate,

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Speaker 2: But just going after random people's wives, or their businesses,

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Speaker 2: or their kids businesses or other things like, there's a

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Speaker 2: nastiness out there that I don't think even existed during

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Speaker 2: the mafia era, and so I don't talk a lot

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Speaker 2: about what they're doing until it's done. I didn't even

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Speaker 2: want to say she was taking the bar exam until

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Speaker 2: we found out today she passed. And I didn't want

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Speaker 2: to say she was at Vanderbilt Law school because the

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Speaker 2: point on this is, and I think it's such a

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Speaker 2: cool story, is there was no precedent. You have to

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Speaker 2: figure out whether this is allowed. The ABA has to

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Speaker 2: sign off on it. It's a big process to decide

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Speaker 2: to go back to law school. But what I take

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Speaker 2: away as an important lesson that I think I hope

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Speaker 2: that our kids took. But I also a lot of

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Speaker 2: you out there is if you've got a goal, it's

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Speaker 2: never too late to do it. You want to write

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Speaker 2: a book and you're sixty five and you're listening to

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Speaker 2: me right now, do it. You want to get your

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Speaker 2: law degree and you are fifty five years old and

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Speaker 2: you think, hey, I practice law for the next twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Or you're thirty five or your forty five, or whatever

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Speaker 2: the age.

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Speaker 1: Is, do it.

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Speaker 2: Don't be curtailed by your age from pursuing something that

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Speaker 2: you've always wanted to do.

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Speaker 1: And every now and then you'll see these stories go viral.

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Speaker 2: Will somebody who's seventy eight years old will decide, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I want to finish high school or

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Speaker 2: I want to finish that college degree that I started.

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Speaker 2: Don't let yourself be handcuffed by what other people think

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Speaker 2: you should or should not do. I believe in the

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Speaker 2: power of the individual, and I believe in all of

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Speaker 2: your abilities when you put your mind to it to

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Speaker 2: achieve incredible things. Oftentimes, the fear of failing is so

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Speaker 2: profound that a lot of people don't take risk at all,

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Speaker 2: and you don't pursue what you actually wish you would

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Speaker 2: have done, and what ends up happening.

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Speaker 1: Then I think you.

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Speaker 2: End up bitter, angry, and you sit around on social

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Speaker 2: media from anonymous accounts taking potshots at people who did

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Speaker 2: with their lives what you weren't brave enough to do

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Speaker 2: with your own life. Just worth thinking about here on

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Speaker 2: that Friday. But I'm super proud of her. Congratulations my wife.

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Speaker 2: He didn't hear it earlier. Becoming one of the latest lawyers.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in a lot of you want to weigh

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Speaker 2: in now. We haven't taken very many calls yet so

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Speaker 2: far as this program.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Shannon in Austin.

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Speaker 2: Texas, you are raising twin seventeen year olds. Good luck

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Speaker 2: with that. I'm sure a boy and a girl. You

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Speaker 2: wanted to disc us what we were talking about with mel Tucker.

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Speaker 5: Yes, thank you for having me on Clay. Actually it's

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Speaker 5: quite easy raising our twins. We go at our twins

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Speaker 5: intentionally with love and care. I did want to discuss

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Speaker 5: with you how my son is being raised to treat

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Speaker 5: other women. I know this is going to be a

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Speaker 5: chacker for some people, but he used to treat other women.

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Speaker 5: I'm as sisters in Christ. It ultimately begins in the home.

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Speaker 5: But the other side is we're trying not to raise

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Speaker 5: them to be a skeptic of women. And that's a

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Speaker 5: that is a balance for sure.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about the idea of hashtag believe

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Speaker 2: all women.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe that at all. Yep, that that says

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Speaker 5: believe all women, and we cannot believe all women, just

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Speaker 5: as we could not believe all men. If you have

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Speaker 5: not parents out there, read your book. Read the book

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Speaker 5: Justice on Trial about the Kavanall.

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Speaker 1: It's a great book. It's a fabulous book.

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Speaker 5: Amazing. I read that to my children on a camping

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Speaker 5: trip at the Frio River here in Texas.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for thank you for thank Colling Inch And

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Speaker 2: she's right about that book, by the way, and I

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Speaker 2: want to get to as many calls i can here.

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Speaker 2: It's a fabulous book. I think that is the that's Hemingway, right,

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Speaker 2: is the author, not Ernest Hemingway. But she does fabulous work.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's it's a really it's a must read

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Speaker 2: book because I think it's the natural deligation of how

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Speaker 2: we ended up with the mel Tucker situation that we're

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Speaker 2: in right now. Thomas in Connecticut, what you got for.

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Speaker 4: Us, Hey, Gudy, how's it going? Thanks for taking a call.

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Speaker 4: I've been waiting weeks for someone to take this, to

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Speaker 4: make this story front and center in the media. I've

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Speaker 4: just been shocked at the silence over it. A quick

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Speaker 4: comment I wanted to make first. I got a qualified

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Speaker 4: by saying, I've been married for forty four years to

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Speaker 4: the same I've got two daughters, I've got four granddaughters.

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Speaker 6: There is nobody more pro women than me. You can't

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Speaker 6: find anybody more pro women than I am. However, I'm

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Speaker 6: concerned about the disproportionate amount of power we are giving

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Speaker 6: women when it comes to this conversation. I'm also concerned

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Speaker 6: about the lack of honesty. Yep, in this conversation, just

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Speaker 6: on the surface, mel Tucker is going to put his life,

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Speaker 6: it's going to put his multi billion dollar, multimillion dollar

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Speaker 6: contract on the line to assault a woman who is

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Speaker 6: a sexual assault counselor to me that on the surface,

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Speaker 6: it didn't pass the call test.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just concerned again about the media and the

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Speaker 4: lack of honesty and in this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call, and by the way, the book,

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Speaker 2: and I would encourage all of you to go read it.

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Speaker 2: Molly Hemingway, super talented writer friend of the show Justice

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Speaker 2: on Trial, the Kavanaugh confirmation in the Future of the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court A.

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Speaker 1: It's great read. It's a really really good read. But

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Speaker 1: he's right.

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Speaker 2: Look, men lie, women lie, White people lie, Black people lie,

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Speaker 2: Asian people lie, Hispanic people lie, gay people lie, straight

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Speaker 2: people lie. And by the way, all those people also

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Speaker 2: tell the truth. You can't use identity as a proxy

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Speaker 2: in any way for whether someone is telling the truth.

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Speaker 2: And so when you create this dynamic of hashtag believe

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Speaker 2: all women, which is the outgrowth of the Brett Kavanaugh case,

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Speaker 2: what Kamala Harris and others argue the opposite side of

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Speaker 2: that is all men are liars.

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Speaker 1: Right, if you.

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Speaker 2: Believe all women, what you create is an incentive structure

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Speaker 2: to allow some dishonest women to take advantage of the

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Speaker 2: political dynamic and go after powerful, successful men like mel

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Speaker 2: Tucker or Trevor Bauer. This is why Lady Justice is blind.

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Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent wrong. We've talked about it some

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Speaker 2: on this show. I'll continue to take your calls. By

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Speaker 2: the way, as we roll into the third hour, we

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Speaker 2: come back top of the next hour, I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about the motion that Donald Trump filed to dismischarges

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Speaker 2: in v SEE. I think there's some good validity to

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Speaker 2: them help