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Speaker 2: JJ Watt, future Hall of Famer, works with the NFL
Speaker 2: today on CBS, and he's working Christmas Day Chief Steelers
Speaker 2: game on Netflix one Eastern with Iron Eagle handling play
Speaker 2: by play color duties there. So, how many times? How
Speaker 2: many games have you done as an analyst at a game?
Speaker 3: I've been called an actual game broadcasting wise live obviously
Speaker 3: I've done the studio and everything, and we practice together.
Speaker 4: But first one very much looking forward to.
Speaker 2: Okay, what advice have you been given?
Speaker 3: I think mostly it's it's be yourself, it's share your experiences,
Speaker 3: but also don't overdo it. For me personally, I've just
Speaker 3: this year watched games much closer, and I've just seen
Speaker 3: what I like when I don't like, And for me personally,
Speaker 3: I love it when the announcer watches the game like
Speaker 3: a fan and talks like a fan, but then subtly
Speaker 3: interjects here and there the knowledge and experience they have.
Speaker 3: But I don't want to be overly technical. I don't
Speaker 3: want to lose people with football jargon. I want to
Speaker 3: kind of enjoy the game the same way the fan does.
Speaker 2: That's great, advice and you're not asking for it, but
Speaker 2: I'll give it to you anyways, get those fifteen second
Speaker 2: moments where you analyze something and then get out of
Speaker 2: the way. For Iron Eagle, because it's really the most
Speaker 2: important thing is he's able to do the play by play.
Speaker 2: Your color commentary is needed, but you still have to
Speaker 2: give him that time to bring it back and say,
Speaker 2: you know, third and ten, you know for the Texans
Speaker 2: or whatever it might be. But being able to compartmentalize something,
Speaker 2: say what you want to say for fifteen seconds and
Speaker 2: then get out of the way, that's an art.
Speaker 4: And absolutely, yeah, he's the best. I love.
Speaker 3: I'm very very much looking forward to We have Nate
Speaker 3: Berlissa in the booth two, so it's it's going to
Speaker 3: be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: I've I went and watched the.
Speaker 3: Cardinals game with Ian and Charles, so I got to
Speaker 3: sit there and just watch them work and see how
Speaker 3: they work together. And we've been we've been buddies for
Speaker 3: a while, so it's been great.
Speaker 2: When's the last time you gave advice to your brother?
Speaker 2: Yesterday about.
Speaker 3: We were talking about his ankle and we were talking about, uh,
Speaker 3: just the recovery and all that we talk every single day,
Speaker 3: So we talk about the game, we talk about life,
Speaker 3: we talk about injuries, everything he's playing.
Speaker 2: Yes, what advice do you give him a playing through
Speaker 2: a high ankle spring.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's much more about the preparation everything during
Speaker 3: the week and getting yourself to game day than it
Speaker 3: is on game day.
Speaker 4: On game day you kind of let the adrenaline take over.
Speaker 3: I mean, there may be a couple of things here
Speaker 3: and there you can do differently, but once the game starts.
Speaker 4: If you're thinking about your ankle, you're not going to
Speaker 4: have a good day.
Speaker 3: So I'd rather him not think about it than be
Speaker 3: out there trying to think, Okay, if I do this move,
Speaker 3: it's not good for me.
Speaker 4: That's no good.
Speaker 2: The difference between pain and an injury.
Speaker 3: I mean, especially with an ankle like things like this.
Speaker 3: I mean, a sprain is literally an injury. It's just
Speaker 3: been it's painful. But there's just different levels that you
Speaker 3: can play through. I agree with you, and I know
Speaker 3: the old school thing, like there's guys that can play
Speaker 3: through pain and then there's legitimate injuries that you can't
Speaker 3: play through. But there is a degree of difference. And
Speaker 3: I also think that depending on the team, and depending
Speaker 3: on where you are on the standings, and if you're
Speaker 3: in the playoff hunt or not. I think the willingness
Speaker 3: to play through either one is different for every guy.
Speaker 2: Well just look at the lines with David Montgomery and
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson. They're like, hey, we're Montgomery's going to hold
Speaker 2: off surgery just in case, you know, they go far
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I mean that mentality and these games
Speaker 2: mean something too, so that you know the extra motivation.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean I think there's that old school
Speaker 3: mentality as well, that like, let's just figure it out.
Speaker 3: I mean there's been plenty of times in my career
Speaker 3: where they're giving you a decision. They're like, you can
Speaker 3: get this fixed now and you're going to be out,
Speaker 3: or you can hold off until the offseason, or maybe
Speaker 3: it gets better over time. But most of the time
Speaker 3: competitors are pushing it off until whenever. Maybe I should
Speaker 3: have not pushed it off a few more times.
Speaker 2: Well, I was wondering. You know, you look back on
Speaker 2: that you played through a lot of gruesome injuries there.
Speaker 2: If you had to do it again, could you have
Speaker 2: done it differently?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more about the recovery from the injuries than
Speaker 3: it was the actual injuries. I think twenty twenty fifteen
Speaker 3: was the year that I was by far the most
Speaker 3: banged up and just crazy amount of stuff. So after
Speaker 3: the season we had to fix a lot. But it's
Speaker 3: the recovery process that I wish I would have done differently.
Speaker 3: I always wanted to be the fastest back from recovery.
Speaker 3: I always wanted to be back on the field quickly.
Speaker 3: I want to show my teammates, the fans, everybody. I'm
Speaker 3: doing whatever.
Speaker 4: I can to get back out there.
Speaker 3: And there's probably a few times that I didn't let
Speaker 3: the whole process play out before going back out there,
Speaker 3: which I should.
Speaker 2: Playing in snow how much of an.
Speaker 4: Hurdle for a pass rusher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not fun for a pass rusher at all, because
Speaker 3: that's your whole advantage is edges, corners turning grip, and
Speaker 3: you just literally lose all of that.
Speaker 4: So very very frustrating.
Speaker 2: Okay, how does an advantage How does an offensive lineman
Speaker 2: take advantage of that? Or a quarterback take advantage of
Speaker 2: you trying to rush in the snow?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, in theory, you should have significantly more time.
Speaker 3: Now the same issue plays out with his receivers. They
Speaker 3: can't cut the same they can't make the same breaks.
Speaker 3: So he's going to have a tougher time there. But
Speaker 3: in theory it should be more difficult. You're probably going
Speaker 3: to get some more bull rushes because the guy is
Speaker 3: going to try and run through you as opposed to
Speaker 3: speed rushing around an edge. Yes you can change your cleats,
Speaker 3: Yes you can wear seven studs, you can put longer,
Speaker 3: but it's hard.
Speaker 2: We're talking to JJ Watt and he'll be on the
Speaker 2: call Christmas Day. It's Chiefs and the Steelers that'll be
Speaker 2: on Netflix at one Eastern. How will you be in critiquing,
Speaker 2: analyzing your brother doing again, I'm.
Speaker 4: Going to be.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, people are like, oh, he's going to
Speaker 3: be so biased for his brother. The same thing was
Speaker 3: on the other side. The Chiefs are the Chiefs, Like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to be talking good about Patrick Mahomes news flash.
Speaker 3: So people are gonna say he's biased for the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to deny the fact that he's my
Speaker 3: brother during the broadcast. He is still my brother. I
Speaker 3: am still We're still blood related. But I have no
Speaker 3: problem saying what I'm seeing I mean, if I'm seeing
Speaker 3: that he's you know, he's getting caught on a certain
Speaker 3: pass rusher it's not working. Or if a run comes
Speaker 3: his way and it goes through that gap, like that's
Speaker 3: that's real.
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I do want to be a good announcer, so I
Speaker 3: Am going to do my best there. But he also
Speaker 3: on the flip side of that, he's also one of
Speaker 3: the best players in the entire world. So if he
Speaker 3: makes a good plan and I get excited about it,
Speaker 3: news flash.
Speaker 4: That's what you do when great players make great plays.
Speaker 2: How was your approach to Mahomes.
Speaker 4: For the game, for calling the game, or for playing against.
Speaker 2: Playing against him?
Speaker 3: Sadly didn't have much success there because with the quarterback,
Speaker 3: what you do is you look for their drop spot.
Speaker 3: What yardage do they drop to because as a pass rusher,
Speaker 3: that's where you want to go, So most guys are
Speaker 3: somewhere in the seven and a half to eight and
Speaker 3: a half yard range. The problem with Pat is you
Speaker 3: rush to that point, and he knows he has the
Speaker 3: arm strength to throw the ball from anywhere on the field.
Speaker 3: So if you rush to that point, his first look
Speaker 3: is always going to be that big gap. He loves
Speaker 3: to rush up in the B gap, which is between
Speaker 3: the guard and tackle. So if he can get away
Speaker 3: in there, he's going to take it. But if that's
Speaker 3: closed off by a d tackle, he's just going to
Speaker 3: drop back paying fifteen twenty yards and he knows he
Speaker 3: can make that throw from there. So you can't just
Speaker 3: rush to a spot with Pat because he's not going
Speaker 3: to be at that spot whereas some other guys can't
Speaker 3: do that because they don't have the arm strength. Him
Speaker 3: and Josh Allen are two of the best at that,
Speaker 3: and it's extremely frustrating. So the number one thing in
Speaker 3: my opinion, you have to have against Pat is obviously
Speaker 3: a good edge rusher.
Speaker 4: But then you need that inside push because.
Speaker 3: If you can take away that B gap and get
Speaker 3: those guys up in his face as well, at least
Speaker 3: now I know as an edge rusher, I can rush
Speaker 3: a little higher, so I can also take away that
Speaker 3: deep drop back.
Speaker 2: Were there certain quarterbacks that you knew or thought that
Speaker 2: maybe they were going to get preferential treatment so you
Speaker 2: had to maybe modify how you were going to hit them.
Speaker 3: Hitting the quarterback is an art, and it is an
Speaker 3: art that I was very proud to have a high
Speaker 3: degree because there are certainly ways to do it that
Speaker 3: you you can are still allowed to hit them and
Speaker 3: not get fined and not get penalized. It took me
Speaker 3: a lot of fines and penalties to figure out where
Speaker 3: that line was, but I got it, and it really
Speaker 3: is a skill, and I think that you have to
Speaker 3: be able to utilize that skill because laying hits on
Speaker 3: a quarterback also does affect the game, even if it's
Speaker 3: not a sack. So knowing that you have that step
Speaker 3: step and a half and using it is huge, I
Speaker 3: do think, and I'm not naive to the fact that
Speaker 3: I may have gotten a little preferential treatment myself in
Speaker 3: the fact that I built up repertoire and the refs
Speaker 3: understood that I knew the rules and so I was
Speaker 3: going to stay within them, but I was always going
Speaker 3: to push it. But yeah, I mean you can. It's
Speaker 3: extremely hard, and I get frustrated with some of these
Speaker 3: reugh in the passers, but you absolutely can find ways
Speaker 3: to hit the quarterback legally.
Speaker 2: I always thought that a quarterback hurry was an underrated
Speaker 2: stat that we do get focused on sacks. But I
Speaker 2: still like when I watch Max Crosby. He may not
Speaker 2: get there, but you know that he's there.
Speaker 3: So I like a quarterback hit over a pressure or
Speaker 3: a hurry because that means that, like, first of all,
Speaker 3: it's a literal thing that you can quantify. You can
Speaker 3: see the hit and he hit him, and you know
Speaker 3: what it is. Pressures and hurries I get real iffy
Speaker 3: about because I don't understand how these people are saying,
Speaker 3: what's a pressure, what's a hurry? What happens if it's
Speaker 3: a screen and they let you through. Is this a
Speaker 3: distance to the quarterback before he throws the ball?
Speaker 4: What are those?
Speaker 3: So I'm a big fan of quarterback hit because that
Speaker 3: means you were within a step of him because you
Speaker 3: didn't get a penalty and you hit him. Either he
Speaker 3: threw it or he didn't. But I agree with you there,
Speaker 3: you can affect the play without sacks. But I will
Speaker 3: also say pressures and hurries are like saying would have
Speaker 3: scored a touchdown, like the receiver was open, the quarterback
Speaker 3: just didn't throw it to him. Well, it's a results
Speaker 3: driven business. Either scored a touchdown or you didn't score
Speaker 3: a touchdown. Either one game and you didn't. We need
Speaker 3: to get sacks. That's the goal.
Speaker 2: Best team in the AMC is who.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't you can't say anybody but the
Speaker 3: Chiefs until they're proven otherwise. I mean, it's the it's
Speaker 3: the debate right now, like are they doing what the
Speaker 3: Chiefs do and figuring it out as the year goes
Speaker 3: on and they're just they have the clutch geam and
Speaker 3: they're going to keep it going. It's tough to say
Speaker 3: their defense is so good, but I mean the Bills
Speaker 3: are just Bills are rolling right now. It's just their
Speaker 3: defense that scares you because they are giving up a
Speaker 3: ton of points that offenses.
Speaker 4: I mean, Josh Allen's playing superhuman right now.
Speaker 3: I'm calling the game in five days, so I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go to the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: One great game.
Speaker 2: What's it like to tackle Josh Allen?
Speaker 3: I think I so I played against him more earlier
Speaker 3: in his career, so it was probably maybe a little
Speaker 3: bit easier then because he wasn't as settling and comfortable.
Speaker 3: So I've had some fun tackling Josh, but it's not
Speaker 3: fun chasing him around. He's big, he's fast, he's mobile.
Speaker 4: Uh and he also has a great arm. But had
Speaker 4: a good one on him in the playoffs down there
Speaker 4: in Houston. I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: I was amazed when I saw Cam Newton in person.
Speaker 3: Cam is one of the only times that I really
Speaker 3: you know, we've we've collided and you get up and like.
Speaker 4: That was a collision.
Speaker 3: We both like it was a stunt and I wrapped
Speaker 3: around in the middle and he started to scramble right
Speaker 3: up the middle and we just neither of us kind
Speaker 3: of saw each other, and at the last second we
Speaker 3: did it. And it was one of those where we
Speaker 3: both went down right where we were, neither gave round
Speaker 3: and you just look at nice.
Speaker 2: But you know, do you want those matchups there or
Speaker 2: would you rather, you know, try to chase Kyler Murray?
Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't like chasing anybody.
Speaker 6: Damn.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. I prefer if they
Speaker 3: just stood there in the pocket. But then you have
Speaker 3: the guys that do that Brady who gets the ball
Speaker 3: out in one point four seconds, and you're like, all right,
Speaker 3: I can't I can't even get there. Peyton was nice,
Speaker 3: I like, I like, you know, you know, uh, it
Speaker 3: was good, But I mean he also tortured us. I
Speaker 3: think he threw his fifty fifth touchdown pass against US,
Speaker 3: So I can't I can't even say anything there.
Speaker 4: Luck was Luck was another good one. I like chasing
Speaker 4: Luck around.
Speaker 3: We had some good battles, uh, Me and Andrew Luck
Speaker 3: and then he was obviously always very cordial afterwards.
Speaker 2: Did you give your teammates Christmas gifts?
Speaker 4: Yes? The D line generally what what did you give him?
Speaker 4: There's a there's a different level.
Speaker 3: So like actually early in my career, my first Defense
Speaker 3: Player of the Year, I gave the whole defense custom iPads.
Speaker 3: That was early and then as it went on, it
Speaker 3: was there's a lot of a lot of beverages over
Speaker 3: the years, very nice beverages. There was, you know, backpacks,
Speaker 3: designer and backpacks, things like that. Never never pick up trucks.
Speaker 3: That's a new one for me. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: I saw Ryan Fitzpatrick tweet it today, but he was right.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions I have about that from
Speaker 3: a tax standpoint, from registration standpoint, from an insurance standpoint. Uh,
Speaker 3: we'd love to see the logistics behind that.
Speaker 2: Is, Uh, you ready for Christmas at home that you're
Speaker 2: gonna be on Like how tough is that?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: You've got to go Christmas Day. How big is your son?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: He is too, and he's large as you would expect.
Speaker 3: So it's it is tough. That's there's no question.
Speaker 4: That's tough.
Speaker 3: But I'm leaving. Uh So I'm going to see him
Speaker 3: Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. I'm just going to be gone,
Speaker 3: literally for the game. So we're gonna We're gonna do
Speaker 3: our own little Christmas here.
Speaker 4: He's he loves the Grinch. He is all in on
Speaker 4: the Grench.
Speaker 3: So he tried to steal our Christmas tree the other
Speaker 3: day and I said, what are you doing? He goes,
Speaker 3: I'm taking it up the chimney. He said, no, No,
Speaker 3: that's not the hero part.
Speaker 2: Is he already as tall as Kyler Murray?
Speaker 4: Oh Dan, that's not fair, that's not fair.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you have fun and you've got a
Speaker 2: great thought process going into that game of what we
Speaker 2: the audience wants to hear.
Speaker 5: Stick to it.
Speaker 2: And the iron Eagle is his giving as any announcer
Speaker 2: that you'll work with, and that's really important. He will
Speaker 2: make you better.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's my whole goal in life, Dan, is to
Speaker 3: let everybody around me make me look good because they're
Speaker 3: all better than I am, so I'm here for it
Speaker 3: just like you. I appreciate you. And I got to
Speaker 3: give a shout out to Fritzy. We've been trying to
Speaker 3: make this happen for a very long time. I think
Speaker 3: I might have more text messages in my phone from
Speaker 3: Fritzy than I do for my wife.
Speaker 4: But I appreciate it. I'm glad we could finally make.
Speaker 2: It work for no no hold on. Remember we kind
Speaker 2: of have an over under of how many text messages
Speaker 2: before you have to take this little space between messages.
Speaker 3: But he knows I actually wanted to do it, like
Speaker 3: that's I'm I'm with it. We just literally it's been
Speaker 3: it's been chaos over here.
Speaker 7: It was always very, very genuine and kind with his responses.
Speaker 7: I not one time did I get a hint that
Speaker 7: it's like you're being a pain. And then you know what,
Speaker 7: And he found time to do it on the last
Speaker 7: show of the twenty twenty four years. So that's very.
Speaker 4: Awesome that he did that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a good broadcast, my friend.
Speaker 4: Have you ever gotten a mean one back? Fritzi?
Speaker 3: Has anybody ever said like to stop or just the
Speaker 3: big capital stop, like the infomercial.
Speaker 7: Derek Thomas came over to me back in the day
Speaker 7: at the ESPN Zone or in Disney World, and he's like, Fritzy,
Speaker 7: I got your first message, I got your third message,
Speaker 7: and I got your eighth message.
Speaker 5: I knew where to be.
Speaker 7: You got to relax a little bit with the messages.
Speaker 2: Well, we had a problem with Bill Murray that Fritzy.
Speaker 2: Bill Murray reached out to me and said, hey, tell
Speaker 2: Fritzie to stop. And so I said to Fritzie stopped,
Speaker 2: Bill Murray will come on the show. You must stop.
Speaker 2: And then Fritzi goes, should I text him to tell
Speaker 2: him that I got it? I go, no, don't texting
Speaker 2: to tell him that you got the message? To stop
Speaker 2: texting him? But he always gets his man.
Speaker 7: I mean, well, I don't mean to be a pay
Speaker 7: the but.
Speaker 4: You want No, you're the best. You're the best.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Guys are great. I love I love it every time
Speaker 4: I'm here.
Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy. That's jj what.
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Speaker 2: That's Covino and Rich Reese Davis, host of College Game Day,
Speaker 2: will join us. Is Reese in South Bend because the
Speaker 2: game is coming up tonight? Todd, do we know where
Speaker 2: Reese is?
Speaker 7: I believe he's in South Bend by now for the game, Tame,
Speaker 7: you believe he's College Game Day's doing back to back
Speaker 7: action Friday and Sally South Bend then Columbus.
Speaker 2: All right, well, why don't we find out where Reyese
Speaker 2: Davis is ESPN College Game Day host live. They will
Speaker 2: be at Notre Dame from well three thirty until eight
Speaker 2: on the mother Ship. Then they go to Columbus for
Speaker 2: a second show. Are they paying you for both of
Speaker 2: these College Game Days? Reese?
Speaker 10: I'm not an extra, Dan. I think they took the
Speaker 10: original hour and a half show and made it four
Speaker 10: and a half hours. You know how that works at ESPN. Yeah,
Speaker 10: but I'm actually I'm actually thrilled by it. I can't
Speaker 10: I can't think of a better place to be to
Speaker 10: start this playoff than on campus at Notre Dame. I
Speaker 10: was even advocating before we knew the pairings that we
Speaker 10: needed to be at Notre Dame Saturday morning, regardless of
Speaker 10: when the game was. But I think it's even better
Speaker 10: that they're playing the first one and we're here on
Speaker 10: Friday afternoon into Friday night.
Speaker 2: Can you open up the curtains, look outside and give
Speaker 2: me a weather forecast.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it might look terrible, but I'm right
Speaker 10: on campus at the beautiful Morrison. Let's see if we
Speaker 10: can see a little snow out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's nice and it's nice and chilly. We're
Speaker 10: just a few steps away here from from the Golden
Speaker 10: Dome and will be beneath the Word of Life mural.
Speaker 10: I like to be official. People sometimes call it touchdown
Speaker 10: Jesus Dan, but it's the Word of Life mural giving
Speaker 10: the gospel and good news to teams like Indiana who've
Speaker 10: made the playoff.
Speaker 2: I guess the pressure on Notre Dame when you're facing Indiana.
Speaker 2: So this is in state and Indiana never gets this
Speaker 2: opportunity and now you have it. How much pressure you
Speaker 2: just gave Marcus Freeman a contract extension as well. Vegas
Speaker 2: loves Notre Dame this year in the playoffs, so how
Speaker 2: much pressure you know?
Speaker 10: I think if the game gets close, there might be
Speaker 10: some game pressure. But right now, both these teams are
Speaker 10: really similar and you know, someone asked earlier this week
Speaker 10: what the rivalry situation was, and I said, there is
Speaker 10: no rivalry. I said, historically, the only thing that's consequential
Speaker 10: about Indiana to Notre Dame football is that they're in
Speaker 10: the same state. I mean this, Indiana's lost more games
Speaker 10: than anybody in the history of the sport, and Notre
Speaker 10: Dame has the greatest tradition in terms of being a
Speaker 10: story tradition of any So it's you know, they're two
Speaker 10: hundred miles apart, that's separated by worlds, you know, historically,
Speaker 10: So if it gets tight late, I would imagine Notre
Speaker 10: Dame could start could start feeling feeling some of that pressure.
Speaker 2: Somebody's going to lose. There's a home team that it
Speaker 2: feels like is going to lose this weekend. It just
Speaker 2: the odds are somebody's going to lose. Who do you
Speaker 2: think that would be?
Speaker 10: I think, even though I think they're going to win,
Speaker 10: and I might be overly influenced by spending time there
Speaker 10: earlier this week, but I think if a home team
Speaker 10: is going to lose, it would be Ohio State because
Speaker 10: I think that they are facing the best team in
Speaker 10: Tennessee and they also are facing a team with a
Speaker 10: particular strength that is opposed by a particular weakness of
Speaker 10: Ohio State, meaning the defensive front. We saw what Michigan's
Speaker 10: defensive front did to Ohio State's revamped offensive line because
Speaker 10: of injuries. In Tennessee's defensive front.
Speaker 5: Is just as good.
Speaker 10: It's a little bit different, but there it's deeper and
Speaker 10: maybe a little better on the edges. But they have
Speaker 10: a particular strength that could give Ohio State trouble. So
Speaker 10: I think that is the most likely one. If if
Speaker 10: a home team is to lose.
Speaker 2: Why is it open season on Ryan Day?
Speaker 10: I don't know. I mean, I mean, I understand rivalry,
Speaker 10: I understand the importance of it. Dan, It's kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 10: I mean, really, this loss to Michigan is the only
Speaker 10: one that was a bad one. It's not your birthright
Speaker 10: to beat Michigan every year, and you know this was
Speaker 10: a bad loss. There's no way around this. They played tight,
Speaker 10: they played poorly, and they should have won the game.
Speaker 10: The previous three Michigan had better teams than they did,
Speaker 10: you know, so it's they're They're the winningest program in
Speaker 10: the history of the sport, and this small faction, I
Speaker 10: think generally of Ohio State fans that act as if
Speaker 10: it's their birthright, that they have some type of that
Speaker 10: they're entitled to beat Michigan every Year's preposterous. The guys
Speaker 10: sixty six and ten. You know, I think he's I
Speaker 10: think this is this fourth playoff appearance. It's really preposterous. Guys,
Speaker 10: good football coach, and you know, you got to be
Speaker 10: careful what you wish for. You know, if they're trying
Speaker 10: to push them out, they better be careful what they
Speaker 10: wish for.
Speaker 2: What tweaks would you suggest for the format next year?
Speaker 10: Man, the first one, They've got to do away with
Speaker 10: this only conference champions getting the buy. The reward for
Speaker 10: winning your conference champion is inclusion into the field. Didn't
Speaker 10: just see the tournament because and that's what it is.
Speaker 10: They have taken the team that's been best all season,
Speaker 10: Oregon and created a more difficult path for Oregon than
Speaker 10: they did for Penn State, which lost to both Ohio
Speaker 10: State and to Oregon in the Big Ten championship game.
Speaker 10: I mean, all these teams are good and capable, but
Speaker 10: Oregon's got to play the winner of Ohio State, Tennessee,
Speaker 10: Penn State starts at home against SMU, good team. If
Speaker 10: they win, they you know, they get Boise eight. Would
Speaker 10: you take that, you know to get to the semifinals?
Speaker 10: And think you would, So they have to change that immediately. Dan,
Speaker 10: I think that they did it this way because they
Speaker 10: want to value conference championships, and it was a mechanism
Speaker 10: to get it done, to get the other conferences to agree, well,
Speaker 10: you're not going to go backwards now, so just see
Speaker 10: the tournament. Whoever, if it's four Big ten teams that
Speaker 10: get to buy, still be it.
Speaker 5: So the way it goes.
Speaker 2: Talking to Reees Davis, ESPN College Game Day host and
Speaker 2: he will be working tonight this afternoon three thirty until
Speaker 2: eight on the mother Ship at Notre Dame and then
Speaker 2: goes Saturday morning nine am until noon with the matchup
Speaker 2: with the Buckeyes and Tennessee. Yeah, I'm you know, if
Speaker 2: I'm Oregon, you probably wish you would have lost the
Speaker 2: game to Penn State because you would gladly I think
Speaker 2: change exchange places with them.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 10: I like the way I agree with you, and I
Speaker 10: think in all practicality it's an easier path than and
Speaker 10: dealing with one or the other two. But I do
Speaker 10: like the way Dan Lanning has approached it. He's like,
Speaker 10: you know, we're just we're just going to try to
Speaker 10: win the games that are in front of us. We're
Speaker 10: good and we think we can beat anybody. So I
Speaker 10: think he's handled it just the right way. But the
Speaker 10: unintended consequence of seating the field like this is a problem,
Speaker 10: and really the whole bottom half of the bracket. Now
Speaker 10: Georgia is where it deserves to be, but if they're
Speaker 10: playing a backup quarterback, then you have, you know, you
Speaker 10: have that part of the bracket with Boys's three ced
Speaker 10: George of the two seed with the backup quarterback, and
Speaker 10: you know some of that luck of the draw. I
Speaker 10: understand injuries part of it and are going to happen,
Speaker 10: but the bracket is imbalanced top and bottom, more power
Speaker 10: teams including Texas at the top than at the bottom.
Speaker 2: If there was an MVP vote for College Game Day, who.
Speaker 10: Is how about how about how about about co MVPs
Speaker 10: or how about you.
Speaker 5: Think you really want to get me with this?
Speaker 2: I thought I was saved.
Speaker 10: Save and Max, Me and Herb Street all co MVPs,
Speaker 10: Desmond also co MVP. I'm just out there trying to,
Speaker 10: you know, help him get a first time.
Speaker 2: Look at you, look at you, and and you know
Speaker 2: better than that. I was trying. I was trying. And
Speaker 2: it looks like you're channeling Jim Harbaugh with your look.
Speaker 10: I've been I've been mistaken for him at times. I'm
Speaker 10: a big harball guy. We have a we have one
Speaker 10: of our one of our runners on college game that
Speaker 10: has been with us for a couple of years, a
Speaker 10: woman called Ruby Dreyer, who is married to a former
Speaker 10: Ole Miss player who played for Jim with the Chargers.
Speaker 10: And when she came back this year, I told Ruby,
Speaker 10: I said, the part of your contract, if you've read
Speaker 10: the fine print, is that you owe me one Harball
Speaker 10: story every week. So so she would, she would bring
Speaker 10: in these odd Harball stories. But now hej her husband
Speaker 10: is playing for the Seahawks. So I'm I'm we've we've
Speaker 10: run to the end of the Harball stories. But yeah,
Speaker 10: I'm I'm I'm a fan of Jim. See he cracks
Speaker 10: me up. I think he said it best. If you
Speaker 10: like football, you probably like Jim, so and I do.
Speaker 2: Georgia seems vulnerable, you know, as you mentioned. Now with
Speaker 2: Carson back done, for the rest of the season here,
Speaker 2: you know, losing Lad McConkie and Brock Bowers. I mean
Speaker 2: that's had a really big impact on Carson Beck and
Speaker 2: that offense here. So what is this team or who
Speaker 2: is this team?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 10: They're still really good on defense and they're going that
Speaker 10: defense should keep you in every game. Now, are they
Speaker 10: as good as they were a couple of years ago?
Speaker 5: They are not.
Speaker 10: Their team that struggles to run the ball a little
Speaker 10: bit at times, and you know, I've had some issues
Speaker 10: on the offensive line. They've certainly had issues of you
Speaker 10: as you've alluded to, with playmakers on the outside. But
Speaker 10: they still are probably one of the two or three
Speaker 10: most talented rosters in this field. So I think, you know,
Speaker 10: Gunner Stockton plays effectively if they can they can run
Speaker 10: it well enough, and he you know, he's able to
Speaker 10: make make enough throws that George is still as a
Speaker 10: chance to win it all because they've got as many
Speaker 10: good players as anybody, as many elite players in most
Speaker 10: positions as anyone in this field.
Speaker 2: Give me, if there is a juxtaposition the environment at
Speaker 2: South Bend tonight and what you think you'll get in
Speaker 2: Columbus tomorrow.
Speaker 10: Pure electricity here. I mean I walked in. I'm staying
Speaker 10: at this place on campus called the Morris and I
Speaker 10: walked in yesterday and there was a guy playing bagpipes
Speaker 10: in here. I grabbed dinner with Richard Digger Phelps last night.
Speaker 6: You could just.
Speaker 10: Feel the buzz around town. They're so exciting. They moved
Speaker 10: finals dan to this week it typically finished a week earlier,
Speaker 10: and anticipation and hoping that they might have a home
Speaker 10: game and they do, so everybody is like all in
Speaker 10: the same direction, pulling Columbus based on being there Sunday,
Speaker 10: I think there will be excitement that is that is
Speaker 10: just waiting for something to go wrong, and then there
Speaker 10: will be angs. No, the first time they don't convert
Speaker 10: a third down, the first time Tennessee completes a fifteen
Speaker 10: yard pass or something, or Dylan Sampson, you know, gets
Speaker 10: loose for a twenty yard run, there'll be anxiety in
Speaker 10: that building. And I think how Day and the players
Speaker 10: respond to that internally will be really really important. Saturday night,
Speaker 10: it's more of an angsty, like there's still the pall
Speaker 10: hanging over and they're just wondering if something's going to happen,
Speaker 10: and if the shoe is going to drop in here.
Speaker 10: It's all seashells and balloons for right now and Notre Dame.
Speaker 10: They're excited.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. Have fun tonight. We'll be
Speaker 2: watching all right, buddy, Thanks a lot. That's Rhees Davis.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2: He's Kurt Warner, he's got a couple of MVPs, and
Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer. He's joining joining us courtesy
Speaker 2: of NFL Network's Game Day Morning this Sunday, and he's
Speaker 2: calling the Cardinals rams for NFL Network next Saturday, December
Speaker 2: twenty eighth, at eight eastern. Where are the MVPs?
Speaker 11: I don't know, to tell you the truth. Sometimes they're
Speaker 11: behind me. Sometimes they're in my outside office.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Dan Wait, Steve Young said the same thing, he didn't
Speaker 2: know where his MVPs are.
Speaker 11: I mean, it's about the memories more than it's about
Speaker 11: the trophies day, and so sometimes my wife will put
Speaker 11: them up, you know, to kind of decorate the office
Speaker 11: a little bit and look cool.
Speaker 5: But Yeah, I'm with Steve.
Speaker 11: I don't know more about thinking back to those great
Speaker 11: memories than it is, you know, looking at the trophies.
Speaker 2: Well, Steve said, if I walked in his house, I'd
Speaker 2: never know what he did for a living. Is that
Speaker 2: the same in your house?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you wouldn't know unless you came into this office.
Speaker 11: My rings are back behind me somewhere, obviously, some football helmets,
Speaker 11: and there's a Super Bowl MVP trophy I guess is
Speaker 11: up there on the top. So outside of this office,
Speaker 11: you would have no idea. My wife is not a
Speaker 11: football fan at all, so I don't have I don't
Speaker 11: have different pictures or anything displayed anywhere.
Speaker 2: No, does that help if your wife is not into football?
Speaker 11: You know, I think it helps when you're playing, because
Speaker 11: it's nice to be able to get.
Speaker 5: Away from it. Now that I cover the sports, I
Speaker 5: wish she'd.
Speaker 11: Liked football more so she would sit down with me
Speaker 11: on Sunday afternoons or whatever and watch football, because now
Speaker 11: you know, I've got to kind of watch it and
Speaker 11: cover it all the different days of the week that
Speaker 11: it's on. And you know, she could care less. She
Speaker 11: doesn't want to be around it. She doesn't want it
Speaker 11: to be on TV. So it's a little bit harder
Speaker 11: now that I cover it. But it was nice when
Speaker 11: I was playing. Whether it was the kids or my wife,
Speaker 11: none of them were really football junkies. So you came
Speaker 11: home and you could just be dad.
Speaker 2: If you were Kirk Cousins, what would you think about
Speaker 2: your future?
Speaker 11: Well, I was Kirk Cousins a couple of times in
Speaker 11: my career. You found myself in that situation. Yeah, I
Speaker 11: think if I'm Kirk Cousins in Atlanta, you probably think
Speaker 11: your career in Atlanta is over for short. And I
Speaker 11: think when I went through it a couple of times,
Speaker 11: so you know, leave the Rams, go to the Giants,
Speaker 11: and you know, then be benched.
Speaker 5: When I was, you.
Speaker 11: Know, with the Giants nine games in, you know, my
Speaker 11: mindset was I still felt I could play, but I
Speaker 11: didn't know if anybody else would.
Speaker 5: Give me a shot right now.
Speaker 11: Now this is two organizations that have kind of you know,
Speaker 11: moved on from me, so to speak. And that was
Speaker 11: my you know, that was the secondary thought in my
Speaker 11: mind was, Man, is anybody going to give me a
Speaker 11: shot after you know, this season, because obviously my year
Speaker 11: with the Giants was completely different brand of football than
Speaker 11: we played in Saint Louis. So if you just looked
Speaker 11: at stats, you know, numbers, whatever it was, you'd be like,
Speaker 11: oh my gosh, this guy's a shell of it himself
Speaker 11: in New York from what he was in Saint Louis.
Speaker 11: So he's probably not a starter anymore. And I think
Speaker 11: you could say the same thing about Kirk Cousins. With
Speaker 11: this last stretch that he's had there, I'm sure there's
Speaker 11: a lot of people wondering are his best years behind him?
Speaker 11: Can he ever get back to the form that he had,
Speaker 11: you know, prior to this season. So I'm sure you
Speaker 11: know part of that is going through his mind is
Speaker 11: what is the future? Is there a future for me
Speaker 11: as a starter in the National Football League?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But what's that like to play at a peak, peak
Speaker 2: level with the Rams and then you get benched with
Speaker 2: a Giant?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: How does how do you go from that hide that
Speaker 2: low and then go back to that high with Arizona
Speaker 2: and go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 11: The bottom line, Dan is you've got to be realistic
Speaker 11: with your situation and you've got to take ownership of
Speaker 11: the stuff that's yours. And then you also know that
Speaker 11: there's a lot of stuff going on around you that
Speaker 11: isn't always on you, although it looks like it's on you, right.
Speaker 11: I mean, I broke down Kirk's you know, the interceptions
Speaker 11: when he had that four interception game, and there was
Speaker 11: a couple of plays where I felt like his receivers,
Speaker 11: you know, kind of duped him a little bit and
Speaker 11: he ends up throwing an interception. And so to me
Speaker 11: as a quarterback, you've got to go back and look
Speaker 11: at those things and go, you know what, you know
Speaker 11: that wasn't on me, And those kinds of things help
Speaker 11: you to hold your confidence even when the stats may
Speaker 11: not say you're playing really, really good football. You hang
Speaker 11: on to what you know about yourself. You learn from
Speaker 11: those moments like, yeah, that was a dumb decision, what
Speaker 11: you know, what am I thinking in that situation? But
Speaker 11: you don't just like all of us on the outside
Speaker 11: are looking at Kirk Cousins and just going, oh my gosh,
Speaker 11: he's terrible. He can't play anymore. And when you watch
Speaker 11: the film, I don't think that's the case. I don't
Speaker 11: think he was ever comfortable in Atlanta. I don't think
Speaker 11: he's ever been comfortable in this offense. I think there's
Speaker 11: a lot of you know, continuity issues between the guys
Speaker 11: around him and himself, and it's led to a lot
Speaker 11: of this stuff that hasn't played into his strengths. And
Speaker 11: if I'm Kirk Cousins, I'm thinking, Okay, that's not who
Speaker 11: I am.
Speaker 5: This offense didn't fit me. I need to find an offense.
Speaker 11: That fits me because I believe I can still play
Speaker 11: at a high level. And that's how you hold onto
Speaker 11: that confidence even when you're going through moments like this
Speaker 11: or you find yourself being benched.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Kurt Warner, the Hall of Famer. You
Speaker 2: can catch him on NFL Networks Game Day Morning, rich
Speaker 2: Ies in your host on Sunday, and he's calling the
Speaker 2: Cardinals Rams for NFL Network. Now, did they have you
Speaker 2: for this because these are two of your former teams.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I mean, it works out beautifully for a lot of
Speaker 11: different reasons. Because we're gonna be in LA on Sunday morning,
Speaker 11: so we don't have to travel far after the game. Obviously,
Speaker 11: you know, we joke around that it's the Kurt Warner
Speaker 11: Bowl when these two teams play, because they play a
Speaker 11: couple of times a year, and obviously it's a big game.
Speaker 11: You know that NFC West is going to come down
Speaker 11: to the end. So I'm not sure why, but I
Speaker 11: like it. I like all those different factors, and I
Speaker 11: think it's gonna be a really good football game. It's
Speaker 11: going to mean something, so I'm excited about it.
Speaker 2: Would you play met Patrick Mahomes this weekend?
Speaker 11: You know, I am a firm believer that if a
Speaker 11: player is healthy enough to play, then you play them.
Speaker 11: And I understand all the different things. Oh, you know,
Speaker 11: if we can save him for this game, and that's
Speaker 11: just what we do. Dan like if we get injured,
Speaker 11: but it's not so bad that it stops us from playing.
Speaker 11: We want to be out there playing, and that's what
Speaker 11: you do in every other scenario. Right we're trying to
Speaker 11: look at this down the stretch, but in every other
Speaker 11: scenario you do the same thing. If you're in Week
Speaker 11: four and you know your guy tells you, hey, I
Speaker 11: can play, I'm good, I can practice all week and
Speaker 11: I can play, You play that guy, you don't, You know,
Speaker 11: That's just the nature of what this business is all about.
Speaker 11: Is we want our best out there, and our guys
Speaker 11: want to compete every chance they get, and you don't
Speaker 11: hold that competitiveness from them in any situation unless you
Speaker 11: see the guy and you go, Okay, that's not our guy.
Speaker 11: That guy can't protect himself, or that guy can't play
Speaker 11: at the level you know we need him to play.
Speaker 5: Other than that. If he says he can go and
Speaker 5: he's out there practicing, he goes.
Speaker 2: Why did the Steelers have Lamar Jackson's number?
Speaker 5: That's a great question, and I don't really know the
Speaker 5: answer to him. But I think what we all know is.
Speaker 11: That there are certain teams that just get into our
Speaker 11: mind that we would struggle against. When I played it
Speaker 11: was a Tampa bay Bucks defense, is that I just
Speaker 11: knew how.
Speaker 5: Good they were.
Speaker 11: I knew what they were going to do. It wasn't
Speaker 11: a surprise, you know, they didn't fool me. They were
Speaker 11: just really, really good at what they did, and they
Speaker 11: matched up really well against us.
Speaker 5: And that's another thing I don't think.
Speaker 11: We consider enough is matchups and how important matchups are.
Speaker 11: Then in the course of things like we just want
Speaker 11: to look at thee, well, this team's better than that team,
Speaker 11: but matchups become so critical and inside divisions, you know,
Speaker 11: certain teams are built to stop other teams. And I
Speaker 11: just feel like the Steelers have a real good gauge
Speaker 11: on what the Ravens want to do how Lamar Jackson
Speaker 11: plays football because they've played against him and they've watched.
Speaker 5: Him so much, and they just match up very, very well.
Speaker 11: And like I said, you know, as a quarterback, there's
Speaker 11: times you have teams where you're just like, man, I
Speaker 11: just know, I've got to be perfect in this game
Speaker 11: if I'm going to have success, and going out and
Speaker 11: trying to play perfect usually leads in the other direction,
Speaker 11: you know, instead of just going in free and believe
Speaker 11: in ay doesn't matter. You know, we're going to take
Speaker 11: this team. I love the matchup we got and we're
Speaker 11: going to go out and sling it around. You sometimes
Speaker 11: can get a little bit tighter, hesitate a little bit more,
Speaker 11: and against good teams, that's all it takes.
Speaker 2: Explain to me, And you said this before years ago
Speaker 2: to me that you loved when somebody blitched, that somebody
Speaker 2: was open, but you got to take that hit sometimes,
Speaker 2: like you you may like it's the risk and the
Speaker 2: reward with that, but what's that how do you process
Speaker 2: that of that guy's coming And I'm probably gonna get hit,
Speaker 2: but it does open up this route for you know,
Speaker 2: Isaac Bruce.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 11: All I can say Dan is that the hits never
Speaker 11: hurt as much when you complete that. And so you
Speaker 11: know when that's coming and you know there's a guy
Speaker 11: open and you're gonna hit him, and it's going to
Speaker 11: be some kind of play that adrenaline or whatever it is.
Speaker 11: Most of the time you don't even feel the hit,
Speaker 11: like it's just like, ah, I got you, and you're
Speaker 11: thinking of it from that perspective, not oh my gosh,
Speaker 11: this guy is going to hit me. I'm thinking to myself, well,
Speaker 11: I just won. You can come and hit me all
Speaker 11: you want, but I just won because there's an opening
Speaker 11: there and I'm getting into one of these guys that's
Speaker 11: going to make a big play against you. And so
Speaker 11: I just I loved that aspect of things. And you know,
Speaker 11: the other challenge too, Dan, was I'm gonna try to
Speaker 11: get the ball out before you can even hit me.
Speaker 11: Like that was to me one of the fun parts
Speaker 11: of it is how fast can I see it and
Speaker 11: beat you? So you think you're gonna get a free
Speaker 11: hit on me, Dan, and then the ball's out and
Speaker 11: you got to stop, and you're just thinking that was
Speaker 11: awful because you know, you know, these guys are licking
Speaker 11: their chops as soon as they see the tackle, step
Speaker 11: down this defensive end and is coming right at you,
Speaker 11: and then boo, all of a sudden, the ball's out
Speaker 11: and they've got to stop. There is no better feeling
Speaker 11: when I played than that aspect, is that when a
Speaker 11: team thought they had you with the blitz and they
Speaker 11: had an overload and somebody's coming free and you just
Speaker 11: flip the ball out and you get a big play,
Speaker 11: and you just know the frustration that they're feeling.
Speaker 2: These rookie quarterbacks rank the performances so far, not who
Speaker 2: you would take in the future, just what you've seen
Speaker 2: this year from all of these guys who have played.
Speaker 11: Jayden Daniels is number one for me. Been the most
Speaker 11: consistent from day one to now. You know, there's so
Speaker 11: many big plays. I love the way he plays in
Speaker 11: control as boys. I put him at number one. I
Speaker 11: would put both Nicks at number two. You know, not
Speaker 11: as good early, but I think he's played some really,
Speaker 11: really good football. He's been helped by Sean Payton, who
Speaker 11: does a great job of dialing up some easy things
Speaker 11: and giving him some opportunities. But I think he's played really,
Speaker 11: really well and what we saw in college has really
Speaker 11: translated to the NFL. I would go Drake May three,
Speaker 11: and he's probably the biggest surprise for me of all.
Speaker 5: Of these guys. A lot of ups and downs of last.
Speaker 11: Year in college and a lot of footwork stuff, and
Speaker 11: I didn't think he saw it really quickly in college.
Speaker 11: I have been overly impressed since he got in there,
Speaker 11: especially with the situation and they don't have a lot
Speaker 11: of pieces. He's not surrounded by, you know what some
Speaker 11: of these other guys have, and he has seen the
Speaker 11: field extremely well. He's played fast, He's made a lot
Speaker 11: of plays and made them competitive.
Speaker 5: So I would put him at three, and then I
Speaker 5: would put Caleb at four, even.
Speaker 11: Though we've seen glimpses, you know, there's just there's a
Speaker 11: long way to go in terms of speeding up the processing,
Speaker 11: getting the ball out, being more consistent playing the game.
Speaker 11: And so yeah, that's how I would rank him at
Speaker 11: this point.
Speaker 2: Is Caleb the problem or the Bears the problem? If
Speaker 2: you were going to pick one or the other.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: If I was going to pick one or the other.
Speaker 11: I would probably pick the scheme as being the problem
Speaker 11: for the young quarterback that I think Caleb's got some issues.
Speaker 11: He's got to get better at he's got to see
Speaker 11: it and process faster. But then I've talked a lot
Speaker 11: about you know, some of these teams run these pure
Speaker 11: progression type systems, and what that does is it forces
Speaker 11: a quarterback to have to look and read a play
Speaker 11: the exact same way, no matter what the defense is.
Speaker 11: And I think that hurts quarterbacks because just because they're
Speaker 11: looking at a receiver, they don't get to see the
Speaker 11: entirety of the field. And so as he tries to
Speaker 11: work back across some of that stuff, he's completely lost
Speaker 11: to what's going on on the backside because he wasn't
Speaker 11: really worried about it to begin with, Like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 11: not worried about what's going on over there.
Speaker 5: I'm going to read over here first.
Speaker 11: And I just see that hurting him over and over
Speaker 11: and over again. And I believe that can be a
Speaker 11: problem across the league. You know, some teams do it
Speaker 11: better than others, But I believe that scheme has really
Speaker 11: caused Caleb Williams to play slower and play more deliberate.
Speaker 11: Where I think he's been at his best is when
Speaker 11: he's been free and he's looking doesn't have it. He
Speaker 11: reacts and he plays just like he did in college,
Speaker 11: and I think that system has really hindered him from
Speaker 11: doing that. So young quarterback room to grow. But I
Speaker 11: wish they were giving him some different opportunities in terms
Speaker 11: of the scheme that they ran or they run, because
Speaker 11: I think.
Speaker 2: That's hurting my best of the family. Happy holidays and
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us as always.
Speaker 5: You got it. Happy Holidays to you as well.
Speaker 2: It's Kurt Warner.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: Al Michaels was on the call last night with Kirk
Speaker 2: kurb Street Bronco's Chargers Prime Video. How are you feeling?
Speaker 6: I feel great. Kirk just sent me a video. He
Speaker 6: is in South Bend for game day. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 6: doing the Ohio State game. Snowing like crazy.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 6: So I am going surfing today. It's eighty degrees out
Speaker 6: here or will be. He is going snowboarding.
Speaker 2: Do you bet? Do you bet on college games?
Speaker 6: I don't, you know, Dan, I don't bet. People laugh
Speaker 6: because you know I'm the points spread, you know, announcing
Speaker 6: king and have been for years, and I was doing
Speaker 6: it when you aren't supposed to be doing it. But
Speaker 6: I know that the more you know, the less you know.
Speaker 6: And I know a lot about the National Football League,
Speaker 6: probably no more than ninety nine percent of the people.
Speaker 6: But if I had to bet on football, I would
Speaker 6: not be living where I'm living right now. I'd be
Speaker 6: under a freeway overpast. You can't win, you cannot win.
Speaker 6: It's fun, it's fun to play, and I would hope
Speaker 6: that people only play with money that's disposable. But you know,
Speaker 6: you can get into a lot of trouble with it.
Speaker 6: So I know what, I don't know which is the
Speaker 6: most important thing.
Speaker 2: But going into it, you know, like Brent Musburger gave us,
Speaker 2: you are looking live and that was his way of
Speaker 2: saying to gamblers back in the seventies, whether may or
Speaker 2: may not play a role here, but you're trying to
Speaker 2: covert throw it in there where you probably have bosses
Speaker 2: who say or the commissioner who says, hey, don't be
Speaker 2: overt in making this about a point spread.
Speaker 6: Well, they did years ago, but now everybody's in bed
Speaker 6: with DraftKings and Fan Duel and all of the other
Speaker 6: entities at MGM. So I had a lot of fun,
Speaker 6: you know, being the rascal. But and don't forget, I
Speaker 6: did the Super Bowl back in ninety four, San Francisco
Speaker 6: against San Diego was an eighteen point spread, and they
Speaker 6: asked me the one time I bossed Andiswonson at that
Speaker 6: point said, you know, the league is very sensitive to this.
Speaker 6: So I stayed away from it until the end when
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers were leading by twenty three and
Speaker 6: the last play of the game is a Stan Humphrey's
Speaker 6: passion to the end zone, which would have covered. So
Speaker 6: I couldn't hold it back at that particular time. But
Speaker 6: you know, I had a lot of fun. And you know,
Speaker 6: you know, for years I would say, you know, when
Speaker 6: the score was forty one, nothing, I said, it's not
Speaker 6: quite over. So it was, it was, it was. It
Speaker 6: was fun to do it at that point, but now
Speaker 6: it's it's just overt.
Speaker 2: What's it like to talk to Harball, Jim Harball in
Speaker 2: those production meetings?
Speaker 5: Fun?
Speaker 6: Uh, And I've known look, I've known Jim really well
Speaker 6: for thirty years and knew him as a as a
Speaker 6: quarterback of the National Football League. New him who was
Speaker 6: in San Francisco. He's interesting, He's got a good turn
Speaker 6: of phrase. Uh, he's a lot of fun. His brother
Speaker 6: is one of my favorites of all time. John John
Speaker 6: is great in those meetings.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: There are so many coaches who are so good now,
Speaker 6: Uh like Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin is as good as
Speaker 6: anybody I've ever known in all of these years covering
Speaker 6: the NFL, not for thirty nine years. What Mike will
Speaker 6: do is he will answer your questions before you ask
Speaker 6: the question, which is so good you know, he'll get
Speaker 6: out and we'll go, Okay, here's the rundown, and he
Speaker 6: he will go to all the places that you want
Speaker 6: to go without you having to waste time asking him
Speaker 6: of the questions He's from. Sean McVay is phenomenal. Most
Speaker 6: of these guys are are terrific, and Harboy certainly fits
Speaker 6: into that category. Both both Harboys.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: If I said Sean McVay or Mike Tomlin as an analyst.
Speaker 6: Take your pick man, either one they be. Each of
Speaker 6: those guys will be at some point if they want
Speaker 6: to do it tremendous, tremendous because not only are they,
Speaker 6: you know, football savvy obviously, I mean that's that's a given,
Speaker 6: but they know how to put words together. Tomlin, through
Speaker 6: the years, you know, there are no cliches. And I said,
Speaker 6: even last night, at one point, you know, everybody would
Speaker 6: say running back by committee. It became such a banal
Speaker 6: kind of phrase. But Mike, you know, says distribution of labor.
Speaker 6: It's just got a different way of saying things. And
Speaker 6: I always felt that if I had a debate team,
Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin would be my captain.
Speaker 2: Okay, but what advice do you give those who want
Speaker 2: to be an analyst?
Speaker 6: I would say, understand you read the room where you
Speaker 6: don't go too deep into the weeds. Make the complicated
Speaker 6: more simple. You're not doing this game for people who
Speaker 6: know what a three technique tackle is, because one percent
Speaker 6: of the population will understand what that means. Explain what
Speaker 6: that means, but do it coachingly, have a little bit
Speaker 6: of a sense of humor. Don't overtalk. I mean, nobody
Speaker 6: ever got into trouble for shutting up. It's as simple
Speaker 6: as that. It's so that would be my advice I've
Speaker 6: talked to a few people through the years about this,
Speaker 6: but the important thing is just kind of you know,
Speaker 6: don't you know, take your time. The replace is not
Speaker 6: going to go anywhere, So don't jump in, don't you know,
Speaker 6: don't go wall to wall and inject some humor. And
Speaker 6: the guys we're talking about, Tom Lennon mcsay, will east
Speaker 6: be fantastic when they decide to do it.
Speaker 2: He is Al Michael's the Hall of Famer. On the
Speaker 2: call last night with Herbie with the Broncos and the Chargers,
Speaker 2: that was a game that I thought the Chargers would
Speaker 2: normally lose because I thought the Broncos had him, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you have that kick, that
Speaker 2: free kick at the end of the first town. Were
Speaker 2: you up on the rule when it happened.
Speaker 6: It's funny because I had a game with the Cowboys
Speaker 6: a number of years ago, and they have tried that
Speaker 6: through the years a couple of times. In fact, Harbaugh
Speaker 6: tried like a seventy one yarder when he was with
Speaker 6: the forty nine Ers. So I hadn't thought about that
Speaker 6: rule in a long time. But once it happened and
Speaker 6: I saw that everybody was talking to each other on
Speaker 6: the field and the officials were getting together. I said, yeah,
Speaker 6: I remember this now, and then you know it's a
Speaker 6: good thing. Terry McCauley obviously is our guy. I went
Speaker 6: to Terry and then he could explain it. But you
Speaker 6: don't look. It has happened since nineteen seventy six. And
Speaker 6: I don't know if you were watching last night, but
Speaker 6: Dan Fouts actually called our truck and talked to Steve Hurt,
Speaker 6: our information guru, and said, in nineteen seventy six, when
Speaker 6: Ray Wershing made that kick for San Diego, Fous had
Speaker 6: to tell the coach Tommy prothrow that that was the rule.
Speaker 6: And so that's what happened forty eight years ago.
Speaker 2: You have a photographic memory, yes, but it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: When we were at the Olympics and I remember talking
Speaker 2: to you about Baltimore and Pittsburgh in the World Series
Speaker 2: and you were giving me the day and the weather.
Speaker 2: Where does that come from?
Speaker 6: Well, the Baltimore Pittsburgh World Series was nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 6: the weather was The weather was easy to remember because
Speaker 6: Howard Cosell came on the air in I think Game
Speaker 6: three in Pittsburgh when after two games in Baltimore with
Speaker 6: snow flurries, and Howard's opening line was welcome to the
Speaker 6: Winter Olympics. So that was an easy one to remember.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I'm somehow able to in my mind
Speaker 6: kind of go back and put my brain and my
Speaker 6: body in the in a physical presence at that point.
Speaker 6: You know, it's funny like a lot of people, you
Speaker 6: know that at this particular point and in life, where
Speaker 6: I probably have a better memory of stuff that happened
Speaker 6: in the seventies and eighties and nineties than you know
Speaker 6: what I had for breakfast yesterday.
Speaker 4: Weird?
Speaker 2: But are you like Joe Paterno? You know some of
Speaker 2: these coaches that coach until they die, Like do you
Speaker 2: want to broadcast until you die? I mean, not to
Speaker 2: be morbid, but this is what you know. I remember
Speaker 2: this being told to like Belichick is going to coach
Speaker 2: probably till he dies.
Speaker 6: No, that's not important to me. What's important to me
Speaker 6: is enjoying it. I think anybody in any line of
Speaker 6: work who's passed the regular what we considered to be
Speaker 6: a retirement age, I think if you have a passion
Speaker 6: for what you do, keep going. And I do, and
Speaker 6: you know, my health is good enough right now. And
Speaker 6: I really I love what I do. I love it.
Speaker 6: I love going to the games. I love broadcasting the games.
Speaker 6: I worked with some phenomenal people. I can't believe it's
Speaker 6: been three years now on Prime Video, and they put
Speaker 6: together a fantastic group. And I love being with him
Speaker 6: and we have fun, Like we gathered last night after
Speaker 6: the game. You know, it's like nine o'clock, so, you know,
Speaker 6: West Coast game, and we're all together having them, just
Speaker 6: having a blast afterwards. So Dan, as long as I
Speaker 6: have the passion for it, I'll continue. But I'm not
Speaker 6: sitting here going moh, I've got to.
Speaker 4: Do this, so I die.
Speaker 6: I got it's just some kind of a broadcasting record.
Speaker 2: No, not at all, because like Hubie Brown, I mean,
Speaker 2: Hube's in his nineties right, and I think he's just retiring.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, Ulie was a partner of mine. I
Speaker 6: did the NBA for two years. So the first year,
Speaker 6: three oh four season, I did it with Doc Rivers
Speaker 6: and then Doc went back to coaching in Boston and
Speaker 6: I got Uie the next year. He was He was
Speaker 6: a lot of fun, a lot of fun, and God
Speaker 6: blessed that man. I mean, he's just he was a
Speaker 6: wonderful partner and I guess he's going to retire this year,
Speaker 6: but god, I could listen to him forever.
Speaker 2: What's it like calling a game in you know, when
Speaker 2: weather plays such a role that it might impede your
Speaker 2: ability to call a game.
Speaker 6: Well, it's funny because we did. Look, we did Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: Cleveland when it started to snow in the second half,
Speaker 6: so I really can't see what's going on, but we
Speaker 6: can enhance it the television picture. I mean, I've got
Speaker 6: to call the game off the TV picture. He's looking
Speaker 6: at it live. You can't see any of the yard lines,
Speaker 6: but we can superimpose or whatever the phrase would be,
Speaker 6: the yard line. So that's how you call that game.
Speaker 6: But people love that and a snow game. That's one
Speaker 6: of the games, one of the few games that through
Speaker 6: the years. The rating actually I think went a little
Speaker 6: bit up in the second half. He's normally, you know,
Speaker 6: in the East Coast, a lot of people going to
Speaker 6: bed at halftime, it's ten thirty whatever it is going
Speaker 6: to at that particular moment time. But that particular game,
Speaker 6: I think people would tune in and go, Wow, this
Speaker 6: is pretty terrific and they watched all the way through it.
Speaker 6: It's a great game that went all the way.
Speaker 5: To the end.
Speaker 2: Can the NFL give us too much? NFL?
Speaker 6: I would have thought so, but here we go. I
Speaker 6: mean it's you know, I'm not certain that Tuesday morning
Speaker 6: football at three am wouldn't work. I mean, people just
Speaker 6: can't seem to get enough of it. When you look
Speaker 6: at what one hundred shows that are rated by Nielsen
Speaker 6: West year in ninety three or ninety four of the
Speaker 6: National Football League, I don't know what's enough. If you
Speaker 6: go down to the eighty seven of one hundred, maybe
Speaker 6: you know you're slipping a little bit. But Dan, you
Speaker 6: know as well as I do. I mean, Netflix two
Speaker 6: games Christmas Day, there's always a game, it seems a
Speaker 6: game on television, and people they love it. I understand
Speaker 6: it because it is the most dramatic thing on television, unscripted,
Speaker 6: fantastic and the National Football League, you know, is just
Speaker 6: full of drama. You don't know what's going to happen,
Speaker 6: and that's I think why we love it so much.
Speaker 5: We do.
Speaker 6: Now, I don't know. I don't know when you reach
Speaker 6: the breaking point, but you would think by now we've
Speaker 6: gotten there, and we haven't.
Speaker 2: If the NBA reached out, if Commissioner Silver reached out
Speaker 2: and said, Wow, what do you think of our product
Speaker 2: and what would you do moving forward?
Speaker 6: I think he understands what's going on right now. I
Speaker 6: think everybody's talking about you know, it's a three point game,
Speaker 6: a three point shooting game and all that stuff. I
Speaker 6: don't know what the answer is, but every sport has
Speaker 6: this issue too. Baseball has its issues, obviously, the NBA
Speaker 6: has its issues right now. Hockey kind of tweaks things.
Speaker 6: The NFL has been able to tweak a few things.
Speaker 6: I don't have the answer. I mean, that's why, you know,
Speaker 6: Goodell and Silver and Betman and Manfred get the you know,
Speaker 6: the money they get or that's their job. Their job
Speaker 6: is to figure this thing out. But on balance, you know,
Speaker 6: people still love it. So I know the NBA ratings
Speaker 6: have leaked a little bit. I think part of it
Speaker 6: has to has to do probably with the fact that
Speaker 6: you know, maybe they want people want to see more
Speaker 6: basketball the way it was played. I'm not sure they do, though,
Speaker 6: I don't know, Dan, I don't know if they if
Speaker 6: I had the answer of it, let you know, but
Speaker 6: I mean to me, you don't need any tremendous new
Speaker 6: iteration of it or involvement of something. A tweak here
Speaker 6: and there is, but I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 4: What it is.
Speaker 2: Can you see load management coming to the NFL?
Speaker 6: No, because I think, you know, I think I think
Speaker 6: that would be a very bad thing. Guys are hurt it.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, there there are enough injuries. Guys are
Speaker 6: playing through injuries to begin with.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 6: I think, you know, somebody wants to go to a game.
Speaker 6: They want to see the team that they are buying
Speaker 6: tickets to see, and not some sort of you know, uh,
Speaker 6: small small sample, small part of what it is that
Speaker 6: their team is supposed to be providing. I don't see
Speaker 6: it even if you go to a team games. I think, look,
Speaker 6: I think there's load management within the games these days too.
Speaker 6: A coach, you know, if a running back needs to
Speaker 6: have a little bit more time to get fully healed,
Speaker 6: maybe he won't carry twenty times, maybe he will carry
Speaker 6: seven or eight. So there's load management right now, I
Speaker 6: think within the game.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you as always, thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 6: but I forgot the words can telegraphic memory, but I
Speaker 6: forgot the words of all length time?
Speaker 2: Can you sing?
Speaker 6: Can I sing?
Speaker 5: Hell? No?
Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 6: If I say, nice to see my picture up behind
Speaker 6: your right shoulder. There it is. That's that's a movable
Speaker 6: feast up there, isn't it?
Speaker 12: Yes, yes it is. It's enterprise spot now. I love
Speaker 12: it right tomorrow, but I an eagle could be up there,
Speaker 12: you know next week. It's great man, Thank you, al
Speaker 12: that's Albino.
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.