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Speaker 2: ABC News for CAFI about that wild story concerning an

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Speaker 2: off duty pilot who got to sit in the cockpit

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Speaker 2: and apparently he tried to take it down by shutting

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Speaker 2: the engines off while they were cruising altitude. We'll find

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Speaker 2: out more in about fifteen minutes from Alex. Right now,

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Speaker 2: there's going to be supposedly a Malibu City Council meeting

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Speaker 2: tonight and some residents are going to show up demanding action.

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Speaker 2: And that is because last week horrifically, it was about

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Speaker 2: nine o'clock Tuesday night, a speeding car driven by a

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Speaker 2: also hit four women. They were all killed. They were

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Speaker 2: believed to be standing near the cars when they were struck.

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Speaker 2: And this is not the first time there's been deadly

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Speaker 2: crashes on this segment of Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu,

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Speaker 2: and the residents now think that this is the time

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Speaker 2: something desperately needs to be done to slow people down.

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Speaker 2: So let's bring on our guest, Chris Wisner. Chris, how

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Speaker 2: are you welcome to John Kenshaw?

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Speaker 3: All right, nice, thanks for having me. It's Chris Wiser.

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Speaker 1: But all right, Chris Weiser, this has been going on

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Speaker 1: for decades, right, that is a racetrack.

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Speaker 3: Question. I've lived and worked a mile apart of PCH

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Speaker 3: for the last twenty plus years, so I've seen it all.

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Speaker 3: I've almost been hit myself on Thanksgiving Day and the

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Speaker 3: median divider. I've pulled a motorcyclist out from under nath

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Speaker 3: a car. My wife. Just six months ago, while she

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Speaker 3: I've been for it all. And with this tragedy to

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Speaker 3: the four girls, I personally knew I was the former

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Speaker 3: President Chairman of the Malva Pacific House at Shamber of Commerce.

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Speaker 3: They both worked for me there. One was Nieve Rolson,

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Speaker 3: the other was Asha Were and they were both fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Asha Were she was so fantastic that I had to

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Speaker 3: have her at my company. So she came to work

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Speaker 3: can only imagine, it's absolutely heartbreaking. Just six days before

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Speaker 3: much that we said, look, let's reach out to her

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Speaker 3: and she replied right away, was honored to do it,

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Speaker 3: You know, the other two I didn't get to know personally,

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Speaker 3: but I've heard just incredible things and so much I

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Speaker 3: Let me just start with this. I don't think it

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Speaker 3: the word highway means sixty five miles prior plus, and

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Speaker 3: that's the mindset of anyone hearing that word. I think

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Speaker 3: first big change. It's specific. It's PCR Pacific Coast Roadway.

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Speaker 2: What is the speed limit high What is the speed

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Speaker 3: Talking about even it it's going to vary firm, probably

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Speaker 2: That gets to sound like a highway to people when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and people think when they're going for the forty

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Speaker 3: And what's even crazier is I live right on PCH

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Speaker 1: I don't live that far away. My wife is absolutely

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Speaker 1: in the movie he said there have been fifty six

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Speaker 1: one of the fifty six, and Caltrans' standard response is

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Speaker 1: we have to keep the traffic flowing. That's the response

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Speaker 3: Their number one mission is to get as many cars

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Speaker 3: that's backwards. And again, this is not a highway. You know,

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Speaker 3: on a highway, you don't have pedestrians, you don't have

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Speaker 3: If you did, you know what we would say, that's deadly.

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Speaker 3: You don't have that on the four or five, or

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Speaker 3: we have it here. Something's got to change and this

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Speaker 2: You're going to the Malibu City Council meeting tonight to

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Speaker 2: try to demand action. But John mentioned it is what caltrans.

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Speaker 2: It's respond Caltrans for doing something with this road.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, there's no doubt it's Caltrans District seven. They're responsible,

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Speaker 3: and they should have done many things a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, they're a dinosaur that needs to be

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Speaker 2: Well, besides, besides changing it to roadway, what else would

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Speaker 3: I think the speed cameras, if we can get the

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Speaker 3: You know, I barely see tops when all these things

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Speaker 3: very protective. There's just so many things we could do,

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Speaker 3: and then ultimately one big thing, which is all those

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Speaker 1: Well you know what you said just a minute ago.

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Speaker 1: It is such a crazy setup because they have all

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Speaker 1: the the whole geography there is as if it's a

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Speaker 1: local main street. Right, you have endless stores and strip malls,

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Speaker 1: people constant crisscrossing, people biking, just like main street a

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Speaker 2: Right, right, except seventy miles an hour. Except Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's insane. You know, you don't have people do

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Speaker 3: the last part. I was going to say, like one

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Speaker 3: the pun, but look, just simply educate the forty five

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Speaker 3: the dangers of this highway. It's amazing to me how

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Speaker 3: many times I talk to somebody that's never been here

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Speaker 3: it in the median divider. They think that's safe. It's

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Speaker 3: not safe. They think it's okay to just swing their

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Speaker 3: not look for a bicyclist coming down. People aren't educating

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Speaker 3: that case. But even the crosswalks, I know many you know,

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Speaker 3: I've seen horrific accidents where a pedestrian using the crosswalk

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Speaker 2: All right, Chris, we got to go, but I we'd

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Speaker 2: like to stay in touch with you and see what

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Speaker 2: the effect is done. I guess there's gonna be other

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Speaker 3: Oh, I can imagine everyone's gonna be there. There's a

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Speaker 3: petition that came out from Michelle Shane with twenty one

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Speaker 3: refresh it there's one hundred new signatures, and the last

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Speaker 3: refresh was an hour ago. It was about twenty two

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Speaker 3: hundred signatures. It will be like wildfires. So I can

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll give this story as much play as

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Speaker 2: possible to get something done because we understand and especially

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Speaker 2: you were connected to two of the young women killed.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on and report back to.

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Speaker 3: Us now my pleasure. I really hope you can get

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Speaker 3: a positive message out there and create change. So thank

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Speaker 3: you so much. All Right.

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Speaker 2: That's Chris Weisner, founder of a marketing agency called Vivid Candy.

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Speaker 2: He's going to go to the Malibu City Council meeting tonight.

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Speaker 2: They want something to be done about this stretch of

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Speaker 2: Pacific Coast and he doesn't even want it to be

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Speaker 2: called highway anymore. Roadway in Malibu, which has taken so

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Speaker 2: many lives over the years, and most recently the four

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Speaker 2: young women who went to Pepperdine University at sever College.

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Speaker 2: All right, next your chance, it's some money, and then

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about another big story, this one about a

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Speaker 2: pilot who was off duty who got to sit in

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Speaker 2: apparently tried to take that plane out of the sky

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Speaker 2: by shutting off the engines. Really bizarre. Johnny KENKFIAM six

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Speaker 2: All right, one of the big stories today is that

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Speaker 2: apparently an off duty Alaska Airlines pilot tried to shut

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Speaker 1: Hey, the guys, Yeah, this is a totally normal thing

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Speaker 5: He's a handcuffed and he's an half back jump seat.

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Speaker 5: When law enforcements arrived, and right now he's saying.

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Speaker 1: Calm now, this is a pilot who was on his way,

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Speaker 1: The FAA is saying, guys that there is no known

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Speaker 1: looking at mental health. The I'm not right comment. What's

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Speaker 2: You wonder why, if he was going to do this,

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Speaker 2: You said, right, yeah, and we don't know that yet.

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you, you know, if you were trying to

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Speaker 1: So Alaska has dealt with, you know, at least if

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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 1: Around two tomorrow he'll be in court. We should begin

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Speaker 2: Talking. Thank you so much. We'll probably get more reports

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Alex done ABC News for KFI Again. This

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Speaker 2: Alaska Airlines pilot by the name of Joe Emerson, forty

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Speaker 2: as a guest, he tried to take down on Alaska

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Speaker 1: And I'm just looking at a photo of him, Yeah, smiling,

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Speaker 1: And all heptly said was what was that line that Alex,

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Speaker 2: So September thirtieth, twenty twenty three marked the end of

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Speaker 2: the federal fiscal year. We're telling you that because the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration just tallied the worst year in border security history.

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Speaker 2: The final numbers from Department of Homeland Securities fiscal year

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Speaker 2: two point one million illegal immigrants, down slightly from twenty

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Speaker 1: So overall, a record year, a record year, Yes, a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it says here according to the story that let

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Speaker 2: and Border Patrol also seized twenty seven thousand pounds of fentanyl,

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Speaker 1: And we know fentnel's been the hot drug the last

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Speaker 2: So the total is three point two million illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: We're also detained during the fiscal year.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, and I wonder how many how many got

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Speaker 1: thrown when you have millions of people too, three million

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Speaker 1: You know what the way to respond to this is

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Speaker 1: put these people on planes and just simply land them

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Speaker 2: Mean the parachute them. They won't let you land, You can't,

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Speaker 1: Have them escorted by the military and landed and let

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Speaker 2: Let's screw them.

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Speaker 1: These are their people, you know, fleeing their corrupt government

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Speaker 2: Shows you going back to nineteen sixty where the illegal

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Speaker 2: border encounters are by region, and you look at California

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Speaker 2: and sure enough you see the big peak and they

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Speaker 2: were leading the way back in the mid eighties, but

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Speaker 2: it's tailed off. It really tailed off down to twenty

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Speaker 2: ten to twenty fifteen, but it's come back up again

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Speaker 2: the last several years since you know who's been president.

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Speaker 2: Then you look at Arizona where they had a big peak.

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Speaker 2: It looks like did George Bush years nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 2: ninety eight into two thousand tailed off but now has

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Speaker 2: come back up in twenty twenty. This goes to twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty and Texas and New Mexico. Wow, that's the one

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Speaker 2: that is off the charts in more recent years, where

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Speaker 2: it was kind of even throughout the sixties, seventies, eighties

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Speaker 2: and nineties into the o's until we hit twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two, twenty three for Biden, this is

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Speaker 2: where they're going. Texas and New Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Well, Texas is much closer to South America and Venezuela. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's a much shorter trip for these particular types

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Speaker 1: of immigrants. When California was in its heyday of illegal immigration,

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Speaker 1: it was largely Mexican people, and then as the immigration

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Speaker 1: shifted to Central America and then South America, it's it's

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Speaker 1: much closer across the border.

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Speaker 2: The two countries we're talking about that have a lot

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Speaker 2: of migrants that are difficult for us to deport them

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Speaker 2: back are Cuba and Venezuela. As you might have guessed,

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Speaker 2: these are communist countries where deportations are either difficult or

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Speaker 2: nearly impossible, although both recently agreed to start accepting deportees

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Speaker 2: for the first time in years. To be seen, if

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Speaker 2: that's going to have any effect, we should go day

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Speaker 2: and night, twenty four hours. If they're accepting anybody, just

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Speaker 2: flood the zone. Just land twenty planes at once empty

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Speaker 2: amount and then bring in another twenty. You're going to

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Speaker 2: see and yet another chart the spike in Venezuela to

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Speaker 2: Cuba and Nicaragua immigrants in just since twenty twenty. Back

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, it was almost flat, and then suddenly

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Speaker 2: a big spike, you know, a little drop this year,

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Speaker 2: but still be You know what they would love is.

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Speaker 1: Turn Texas into a democratic state. That's the whole idea here.

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Speaker 1: Texas is such a big state now, it's populations increasing,

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Speaker 1: economies exploding. They're building homes and businesses left and right,

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Speaker 1: businesses moving in from all over the country. Same thing

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Speaker 1: with Florida. They want to turn Texas into something else

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Speaker 1: because on the electoral map, it's no good to have

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Speaker 1: Texas be a Republican state with Republican senators a Republican governor.

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Speaker 1: Although California's are there that might help them turn a

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Speaker 1: little more blue. Well that's yeah, that's that that that'll

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Speaker 1: help depend on what guy.

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Speaker 2: Some people think they were Californians that voted for Republicans

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Speaker 2: that are moving now.

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Speaker 1: Oh I think so?

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Speaker 2: I I yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: Well that's why that's why suddenly the Republicans aren't coming

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Speaker 1: in within one hundred miles in any election. Why. That's

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Speaker 1: what's never talked about. They always say, well, it's because

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Speaker 1: the Republicans can't affordia or against abortion or against the

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Speaker 1: legal immigration. No, it's because they moved out. That's why

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Speaker 1: there aren't.

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Speaker 2: Many left Meanwhile, Old Joe, who made that pitch last

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Speaker 2: week for a big money for Ukraine and Israel, is

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Speaker 2: apparently going to sweeten the deal by putting in border

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Speaker 2: security money to try to get maybe some Republican votes

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Speaker 2: for all of this aid package.

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Speaker 1: That they don't need more money for border security. They

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Speaker 1: need to enforce the law. They need new border policy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so does this as a scam? Oh, you bribe the

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Speaker 1: Republicans with border security money so the Republicans can run

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Speaker 1: on that in their districts because the public doesn't know

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Speaker 1: any better. You don't need more money. What you need

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Speaker 1: is change in policy.

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Speaker 2: In fact, as a congressman in Texas who said that

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Speaker 2: Dad Frenshaw, this is a policy issue. The border has

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Speaker 2: never had a money issue. We need to get in

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Speaker 2: the room, go to the White House and sort this out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know that they should hold things up

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Speaker 1: hostage until the policy changes, not just decide to spend

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Speaker 1: more money that doesn't exist.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back John and Ken kf I AM

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Speaker 2: six forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 4: AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: On the radio from one until four after four o'clock,

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Speaker 1: four o'clock John and Kent on demand the podcast All Right.

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Speaker 2: Maria Ramirez, who apparently has worked in the La County

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Speaker 2: DA office for more than thirty years, will join us

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Speaker 2: after three o'clock. She is another of the candidates challenging

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Speaker 2: George Gascon for that job, and she was tops in

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Speaker 2: a poll of potential replacements that we looked at on Friday.

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Speaker 2: So she said, why can't I come? Oh, we said sure,

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk to her right after the news at

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Speaker 2: three o'clock. We'll talk a bit more too, about all

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Speaker 2: these candidates who are challenging George Gascon for that job.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had mentioned during the last segment that

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Speaker 2: we had in a record here of migrants detained, encountered,

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Speaker 2: whatever words you want to use. And the other story

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Speaker 2: that popped up today is that for the first time ever,

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Speaker 2: the leading nation putting migrants out our border is Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: Although these are Venezuelans, some of them do not necessarily

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Speaker 2: come directly from that country. They come from other South

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Speaker 2: American countries. But they thought maybe things will work out

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Speaker 2: better for me in the US. And the reason I

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Speaker 2: mentioned that is there was a story last week that

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Speaker 2: Brazil is offering them jobs to come there. And I'm

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Speaker 2: wondering if Brazil is losing some Venezuelans and they're trying

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Speaker 2: to recruit people in Venezuela to come to Brazil and

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Speaker 2: we'll get you a job. I'm like, well, fine, go there, right.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, well, well yes, if if a country wants

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Speaker 1: immigrants and they're advertising, that's all the more reason we

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: That's the argument we hear is that you need the

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Speaker 2: job base is the population ages and people don't reproduce

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Speaker 2: as much. You don't have as many young people to

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Speaker 2: fill the job. So they often say you got to

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Speaker 2: take but one of the reasons Europe kind of opened

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Speaker 2: its doors there for a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, well that hasn't worked out really well.

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Speaker 1: You know what, you have to have a vetting system,

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Speaker 1: you have to have it be orderly, you have to

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Speaker 1: have people have certain talents and education and skills. Can't

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Speaker 1: just leave the door wide open. It's like, what jobs

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Speaker 1: are you trying to fill here?

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Speaker 2: Now? Speaking of Biden, that Bloomberg did quite a story

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Speaker 2: last week, and this is relevant to California because we

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Speaker 2: believe in alternative energy, right wind and solar are the future. Well,

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden in twenty twenty one laid out of target

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Speaker 2: of deploying thirty gigawatts of offshore wind capacity during the

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Speaker 2: next nine years. I'm not sure he'd be around to

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Speaker 2: see that, But well, two years later, people in the

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Speaker 2: industry are saying that's not gonna happen. There have been

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Speaker 2: huge cost overruns. Inflation is hitting the industry like you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't believe. In June, the forecast was for twenty three

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Speaker 2: point one gigawatts in twenty thirty, but then the industry

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Speaker 2: suffered another blow last week. New York rejected developers please

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Speaker 2: for higher rates. That raises questions about the project. A

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Speaker 2: lot of the people in the wind power industry are

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Speaker 2: saying that it's just an impossible goal.

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Speaker 1: All this is impossible, you know, this is one of

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Speaker 1: many impossible things. I just read a story over the

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Speaker 1: weekend that flat out there's no way to build a

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Speaker 1: char arging stations that would be needed to meet these

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Speaker 1: goals anytime soon. Just impossible. There's no money to do it,

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Speaker 1: there's no drive to do it. There's there's too many obstacles.

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Speaker 1: It's too difficult.

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Speaker 2: I guess the response would be well, we just want

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Speaker 2: to get us on the right track, even if it

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Speaker 2: takes thirty years longer than we thought.

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Speaker 1: Well, the law is that in twenty thirty five in California,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to buy a gas

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Speaker 1: powered car. So if they have aspirational goals, then they

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Speaker 1: need to update the laws that they pass, because the

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Speaker 1: laws are going to be very destructive, and eventually they

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Speaker 1: will they'll put a pause on it, and they'll they'll

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Speaker 1: lengthen it to twenty forty five, and then twenty fifty five,

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Speaker 1: and then maybe never. This is going to be one

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Speaker 1: of those things that probably never happens, at least not

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Speaker 1: in our lifetimes because it's insane and stupid. Another and

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Speaker 1: that's just the charging stations, right, and we know many

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Speaker 1: of those don't even work. There is absolutely no plan

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Speaker 1: to increase the electric grid, a practical plan. Do you

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Speaker 1: know how difficult that is and how cost that is.

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Speaker 2: So listen to this about the winds. This is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Two years ago, companies were making plans and signing power

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Speaker 2: purchase agreements based on a projected cost of seventy seven

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Speaker 2: dollars per megawat hour. Today it is jumped to one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen dollars per megawat hour. So that's why

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Speaker 2: they're saying this is not achievable. The costs are skyrocketing.

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Speaker 2: We can't even keep up, it says here. The White

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Speaker 2: House says, we're using every legally available tool to advance

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Speaker 2: American offshore wind opportunities and achieve the goal by twenty thirty.

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Speaker 2: But you know, we have learned in some other countries,

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Speaker 2: and I think they're in Europe, they've had problems with

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Speaker 2: offshore wind because they don't get the winds they thought

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Speaker 2: they'd get.

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Speaker 1: Everything about this was wildly exaggerated and wildly miscalculated because

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Speaker 1: we have morons running our world. We have morons who

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Speaker 1: jump on silly, stupid trends, who either are bribed by

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Speaker 1: or cave into the emotional pressure from activists and other

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Speaker 1: whack jobs. Have the crazy people running the world, so

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get crazy results. By definition, how could you not?

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Speaker 1: This is not reasoned scientific analysis here. This is hysteria

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Speaker 1: that the world is ending, that we're all overheating, we're

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Speaker 1: all gonna die. It's just hysteria. Now, how many good

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Speaker 1: decisions are you gonna make when you're in a state

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Speaker 1: of hysteria. For those of you who have been in

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Speaker 1: a state of hysteria, do you look back and say, Wow,

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Speaker 1: when I was hysterical, I made so many good decisions

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Speaker 1: in my life. That's impossible, and that's what we have.

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Speaker 1: We have a global hysteria. It's been a contagious hysteria.

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Speaker 2: Well to put it simply, too, when you're using coal

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Speaker 2: or using natural gas to get electricity, well you know

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Speaker 2: where the coal is that the natural gas can be

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Speaker 2: taken from. But when you go to these alternatives, you're

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Speaker 2: relying on the weather. You're relying on wind and the

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Speaker 2: sun to shine, you're lying on solar and that is

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Speaker 2: just not as dependable.

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Speaker 3: Genie.

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Speaker 2: That's a big problem.

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Speaker 1: Because there is no way to know from from month

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Speaker 1: to month how much wind are you going to get?

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Speaker 1: How many You can't know that. It's impossible. We've never

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Speaker 1: known that.

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Speaker 2: No you can walk outside in a given day and

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Speaker 2: it's windy for a week, and then two weeks later

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Speaker 2: there's no wind to be seen for weeks.

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Speaker 1: We do not have the collective intelligence and we may

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Speaker 1: never have it in order to predict long term wind patterns.

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Speaker 1: That's just not possible. So to base a major energy

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Speaker 1: source on wind is insane.

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Speaker 2: And they'll come.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, in the meantime, lots of government

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Speaker 1: money has enriched these wind companies, So there's people making

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Speaker 1: people making fortunes producing wind machinery that's going to be useless.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: When we return, we're going to be talking to a

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Speaker 2: candidate to replace La County District Attorney George Gascon. There's

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Speaker 2: nine of them. This is Maria Ramirez who's not yet

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Speaker 2: been on our show. She has been in the Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles County DA's office for more than thirty years, and

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Speaker 2: interview that they conducted with her at the one of

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Speaker 2: the media outlets was that she doesn't believe in decarceration.

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Speaker 2: That should not be the goal of a DA's office.

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Speaker 2: She'll join us next Johnny KENKFIAM six forty Live everywhere, iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: App and Sandy Wells Live in the KFI twenty four

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