WEBVTT - Six Shocking Stories - Fava Beans and a Nice Chianti

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone walk on The Mother Knows Death. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>started with this week's six shocking stories.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't even want to start off with what

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<v Speaker 2>this one's called because they don't want to give it

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<v Speaker 2>away because it will just ruin the outrageous nature of

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<v Speaker 2>this case. So, this forty eight year old guy was

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<v Speaker 2>riding his motorcycle crashed into a truck. Investigators and the

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<v Speaker 2>driver of the truck found that the accident was odd

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<v Speaker 2>because the guy on the motorcycle clearly had enough opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>to turn away. He hit the truck dead on. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what happened. They're like, he just The truck

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<v Speaker 2>driver just said it came out of nowhere. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>expecting it because of all these other factors. So with this,

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<v Speaker 2>with this info, they decided they need to look further

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<v Speaker 2>into the case and try to decide if it was

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<v Speaker 2>purely an accident or a suicide attempt because it just

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<v Speaker 2>seems so bizarre. So in interviews, they had determined that

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<v Speaker 2>this guy had had body dysmorphia stemming back into his thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>He suffered from what's called small penis syndrome. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to explain what that is because it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sounds fake.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I couldn't even believe this was a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also referred to as penile dysmorphic syndrome or disorder,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a subcategory. I think that now with all

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<v Speaker 1>the plastic surgery and stuff we hear about on the news,

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<v Speaker 1>we hear about body dysmorphic syndrome a lot, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a subcategory of it, where men feel

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<v Speaker 1>like their penis size is too small, even though their

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<v Speaker 1>penis size is completely normal. They just have this distorted

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<v Speaker 1>view of what it really looks like. Yeah, so why,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you're asking, like, why is this relevant?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? So they're trying to figure out what was going

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<v Speaker 2>on in this guy's head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and trying to see because just based on the

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<v Speaker 1>testimony of the truck driver, they're trying to see if

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<v Speaker 1>he was suicidal. So it looked like he was suffering

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<v Speaker 1>from this syndrome. And it became so bad that his

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<v Speaker 1>job as a police officer was affected, and he lost

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<v Speaker 1>his job as a police officer and became estranged from

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<v Speaker 1>his wife and children. So it was that bad, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get to the autopsy. So first I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you, when you guys get a body that

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<v Speaker 1>is clothed, is it part of the external exam to

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<v Speaker 1>take the clothes off or it is like an assistant

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<v Speaker 1>do it and then you guys come in and look

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<v Speaker 1>at the butt.

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<v Speaker 2>How does it work?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So in the hospital, obviously we always get someone that's

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a hospital gown or they're naked in the body bag.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we get them there. But at the medical

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<v Speaker 1>examiner's office, people come in how they're found dead, So

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<v Speaker 1>we would describe exactly what clothes they're wearing, and if

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<v Speaker 1>there was any kind of damage or anything to the clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if somebody gets shot, you would obviously sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>see a gunshot entry or or exit through the clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's important to document all that kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and also just tells you a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 1>condition the person was living in. Like sometimes if a

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<v Speaker 1>person is wearing pants that clearly haven't been washed in weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>that are soaked with urine, they might they might be homeless,

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<v Speaker 1>or they might have some kind of a mental issue

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<v Speaker 1>that would cause them to be living in that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of condition. But yeah, we I mean, at some point

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<v Speaker 1>we have to take off their clothes to do the autopsy.

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<v Speaker 1>So that would be something when when I was interning

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<v Speaker 1>at the Medical Examiner's office, that's something that we actually

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<v Speaker 1>did as students.

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<v Speaker 3>That was our job.

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<v Speaker 1>Or we would help the investigators or the text working

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<v Speaker 1>there do that. And it's it is kind of difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to undress a dead body because they don't cooperate with you,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously in their literal dead weight. So yeah, but we

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<v Speaker 1>would we would take we would describe the clothes and

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<v Speaker 1>then take them off.

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<v Speaker 2>And I assume you can't just well, depending on the

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<v Speaker 2>state of the body, I assume you can't just like

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<v Speaker 2>cut them off. You have to actually try to preserve them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, we will cut them off sometimes, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think. I mean, if your family member died and

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<v Speaker 2>was living in their decomp juice, do you really want

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<v Speaker 2>that shirt back?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I'm not sure. I never even I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened at the Medical Examiner's office because it was

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<v Speaker 1>such a long time ago that I was.

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<v Speaker 3>There what they did with the clothes, But if we

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<v Speaker 3>ever had I'm trying to think.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't. I don't think I've ever had a situation

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<v Speaker 1>in the hospital where a person had personal clothing on,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of a ring or jewelry here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>which we would definitely make sure goes back to the family.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know what they do with the clothes there.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably get rid of them because they're soiled in

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<v Speaker 1>body fluids, like a biohazard bag or something. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So keep what we were talking about earlier in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>with what's going on in his brain. So they we

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<v Speaker 1>start undressing him, I assume, on the table, and when

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<v Speaker 1>it gets to his pants, they take his pants off

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<v Speaker 1>and find the most shocking thing of all in this story.

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<v Speaker 1>So he has this giant fake penis attached to his body.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have to see the picture of it, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what makes it so shocking, because it looks so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks homemade.

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<v Speaker 1>It was huge, it was ten inches long, so and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the it doesn't match his skin color.

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<v Speaker 3>It has this fake pubic.

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<v Speaker 1>Hair kind of hot glued onto it, and the most

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<v Speaker 1>odd part of it is it's attached around his hip

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<v Speaker 1>by a wire that is similar to the thickness of

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<v Speaker 1>like a chain link fence. This it looks horribly uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>to think about wearing something like that around your waist

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<v Speaker 1>and wow, it imagine how shocked they were to find

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<v Speaker 1>that when they undressed his body.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and ultimately, with all the information they had about

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<v Speaker 2>his mental health and everything, they couldn't determine if he

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<v Speaker 2>made suicidal attempts in the past. So I guess this

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<v Speaker 2>got ruled an accident, right, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean he didn't have any I don't know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that if he was suffering from such a mental

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<v Speaker 1>disorder like this and then they found this thing and

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<v Speaker 1>then his family he was estranged from his family, lost

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<v Speaker 1>his job, I would say he was dealing with documented

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<v Speaker 1>mental health issues, but he never really made the claim

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<v Speaker 1>that he had a suicidal ideation. So I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>where the threshold for that is. That that would probably

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<v Speaker 1>be based upon the medical examiner who's signing out the autopsy.

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<v Speaker 1>But this really has nothing to do with his cause

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<v Speaker 1>of death. He had a broken skull and a brain

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<v Speaker 1>bleed from the motorcycle accident, so his cause of death

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<v Speaker 1>was due to that. It's just more talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>manner of death was it was it accidental or was

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<v Speaker 1>it soon?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering if the fake penis like got in his

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<v Speaker 2>way and distracted him and that's why he drove into

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<v Speaker 2>the truck. I'm not sure that the thing is just

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<v Speaker 2>it is outrageously it is outrageously huge. I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>wearing that in your pants. And because it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>a body part on you, it's a foreign object attached

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<v Speaker 2>to your body. How it might I don't know. You're

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<v Speaker 2>just not used to being there, so I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it could have been very distracting.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the autopsy, so this is not a typical

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<v Speaker 1>thing we do at autopsy, they measured his penis and

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<v Speaker 1>it was four inches flaccid, which is completely within the

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<v Speaker 1>normal average of a penis. So it's not like he

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<v Speaker 1>had he really had some freakishly small penis and this

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<v Speaker 1>is why he was he was obsessive about the size

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Being flaccid at four inches is pretty average.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure that that really had to be

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<v Speaker 1>done for this case, Like, it's kind of weird to

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<v Speaker 1>think about measuring someone's penis, but it was done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Well, that one's called dildo on the dead,

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess you could assume why I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to spoil it at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you really need to you really need to

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<v Speaker 1>see the picture. It's it really is shocking, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Our next one's called Bloody Barbie. So a mother was

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<v Speaker 2>in another room while her seven year old twin daughters

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<v Speaker 2>were taking a bath, playing with barbies in the tub.

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<v Speaker 2>Suddenly she heard a scream from one of her daughters,

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<v Speaker 2>so she rushes in the bathroom and finds her daughter

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<v Speaker 2>squatting over a barbie doll and she's bleeding. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>the mom takes her daughter out of the bathtub and

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<v Speaker 2>lays her on the bed and then sees that she's

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<v Speaker 2>bleeding out of her vagina, so they quick she quick

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<v Speaker 2>brings her a child to the urgent care center, which

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<v Speaker 2>then had said, okay, what they were asking the kid like,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened, and she said that she was playing in

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<v Speaker 2>the tub with her sister when she fell and got

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<v Speaker 2>this injury. So at urgent care they decided that this

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<v Speaker 2>should be something handled more by the hospital because she

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<v Speaker 2>had to have an internal exam to see what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on, or a pelvic exam, which is not usual

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<v Speaker 2>to do, especially on a child. So they sent them

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<v Speaker 2>to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting about this case is that it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being it ends up being very innocent. But from

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<v Speaker 1>the perspective of the emergency room physicians, when someone comes

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<v Speaker 1>in with an injury like this, they have to not

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<v Speaker 1>always take the word of the parent, because of course

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<v Speaker 1>people do really horrible things to children, so they need

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<v Speaker 1>to interview the child separately and see if they get

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the same exact story that the mom's giving.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this case, they interviewed this child and asked

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<v Speaker 1>her what happened, and she said that her barbies, we're

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<v Speaker 1>in the bathtub. She and one of them had their

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<v Speaker 1>legs pointing to the sky, and she slipped on another

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<v Speaker 1>one of them and fell and quote, the leg of

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<v Speaker 1>the barbie went inside of her body. So the story

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<v Speaker 1>was exactly what the mom had said. And when they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up doing the pelvic exam, they saw that she

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<v Speaker 1>had a laceration in her vagina, very close to her cervix.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the most one of the most shocking

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<v Speaker 1>parts of this story, or I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily shocking, but it's just kind of a crazy picture

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<v Speaker 1>to see is that. The photo that comes along with

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<v Speaker 1>this story is a bathtub that's got five Barbie dolls

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<v Speaker 1>laying across it. One has their leg up so you

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<v Speaker 1>could see which one caused the injury, and they're covered

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<v Speaker 1>in blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, it's a really disturbing sight to see

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<v Speaker 2>children's toys in blood. This is a complete freak accident.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so bizarre that it happened this way. I always

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<v Speaker 2>think of kids, just like, you know, when the girls

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<v Speaker 2>were like taking baths and stuff, they'd just be like

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<v Speaker 2>crazy in there. I'm like, dude, you're gonna fall.

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<v Speaker 3>Be careful. Oh yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And my kids used to play with the barbies and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a point, remember there was a point that

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<v Speaker 1>there was like ten of them in the bathtub.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>And I let them do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after a couple of days, I was just like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't do this anymore because the fact that they're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there and they're wet and they're drying out.

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<v Speaker 3>Is just not good.

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<v Speaker 1>It could I can't because barbies aren't really meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the bathtub, so water could get into weird places,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's when mold and bacteria and stuff could grow,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't want your girls, especially like sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>a tub full of all of that junk when their

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<v Speaker 1>privates are exposed to that, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I remember you kind of skiv it out.

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<v Speaker 2>You had one of those like you know, bar or

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<v Speaker 2>table tray, whatever it's called, that would go across the bathtub,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just filled with their toys. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it would take longer to clean up afterworth than

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<v Speaker 2>the bath itself. And I don't know, they were just

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<v Speaker 2>always being crazy. Then they throw them on the floor,

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<v Speaker 2>so when you walk in, you're about to slip on

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<v Speaker 2>the toys too, and then they're You're like, cool, They're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna watch me crack my skull open right in front

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually something I was just thinking about that. Remember a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months ago, I was going to get in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathtub, so I have like a I have a

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<v Speaker 1>regular bathtub, Yeah, and I lift my leg over the

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<v Speaker 1>edge to get into the bathtub and I slid, like

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<v Speaker 1>my foot that was in the bathtub slid and did

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<v Speaker 1>like a split, but my other leg was still on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the vat tub and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is this greasy shit all over the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the bathtub. So I get I have a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking like at least six inch in diameter hematoma

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of my thigh now from.

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<v Speaker 3>Banging against the vat tub.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know, like I one hundred percent know what

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<v Speaker 1>child is responsible for this. So I go out of

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<v Speaker 1>the shower and I'm like, I go up to lucea, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you put in a shower? Did you like

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<v Speaker 1>pour a bottle of olive oil on the floor or whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>And She's like, no, it's lotion, Like duh. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why would you bring lotion in the bathtub?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? So so, yeah, that's what happened, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was really hard to get up. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The best is she said she always did it, and

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, you certainly have never done this before.

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<v Speaker 3>No exactly, but I just don't. They always just they're always.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to reinvent the wheel, like soap isn't good enough,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me try to use lotion or whatever, and You're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, dude, so and she was like, oh, what

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<v Speaker 1>did they say now when.

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<v Speaker 3>They make a mistake?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's that. Yeah, Oh my god. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So this next one's called a fava beans and a

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<v Speaker 2>nice kiante. So I don't know if everybody's familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>that pop culture reference, but it's from Silence of the Lambs,

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<v Speaker 2>the scariest movie ever. I mean, even though scary movies

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<v Speaker 2>have come out after that, don't you feel like that

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<v Speaker 2>still holds up as one of the scariest movies. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's scary because it's first it's semi based on

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<v Speaker 2>real events or you know, a combination of different people,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's very it seems like it could be very real,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why it's it's so scary, Yeah, because there

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<v Speaker 2>are people that are that crazy, that do shit to people,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just freaks you out thinking. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's just so well made that even it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of those movies that I've seen a hundred times, but

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<v Speaker 2>every time I still have that like anxiety building up to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this confrontation scene towards the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, the whole thing just gives me

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<v Speaker 2>out so bad. But police got to call that a

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five year old homeless man in Miami was being attacked,

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<v Speaker 2>So it took them eighteen minutes to get to the scene,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you feel it. That's kind of a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I just think I don't know if it took

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen minutes. I know that when they arrived they thought

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<v Speaker 1>that the guy was having what was happening to this

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<v Speaker 1>guy was going on for eighteen minutes, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if he was not. I don't know who called

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<v Speaker 1>nine one one in this situation, so maybe it just

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<v Speaker 1>was that was a delay as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so when they got there, they were surprised that

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<v Speaker 2>this attacker was eating this guy's face. Yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 2>apparently high on a psychoactive substance and he was eating

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<v Speaker 2>his face, literally eating his face covered in blood like

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<v Speaker 2>Hannibal Lecter style. And they were saying that it was

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<v Speaker 2>being done up to eighteen minutes. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if witnesses at the scene solid or whatever happened. Because

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<v Speaker 2>think about this, like the guy's homeless. So you have

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<v Speaker 2>people that are just walking by around and then you

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<v Speaker 2>look across and see someone eating someone's face. It might

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<v Speaker 2>take you a couple minutes to be like, what the

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<v Speaker 2>hell is going on here? Oh my god, this is bad,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I have to call nine on one, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>just you don't see that every day. I'm trying to say,

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<v Speaker 2>I truly cannot imagine witnessing something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we want you guys to share your stories

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<v Speaker 1>with us, because there's somebody that witnesses these things and

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<v Speaker 1>we want it. We just got to go one today actually,

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<v Speaker 1>but just right before we started recording, so we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>that one next week, but we are we really do

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<v Speaker 1>want to know if you guys have ever witnessed anything

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<v Speaker 1>insane like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, as if this guy's face getting eaten off

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<v Speaker 2>is not enough, the cops are having the hardest time

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get the attacker off of him, so they

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<v Speaker 2>had to resort to shooting him. So they shot him twice,

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<v Speaker 2>but unfortunately the victim got shot twice as well. The

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<v Speaker 2>attacker did end up dying, but you know, the other

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<v Speaker 2>guys survive. So he not only has his phase eaten off,

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<v Speaker 2>but he goes blind and he shot twice, all within

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of like a couple of minutes, essentially like

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<v Speaker 2>less than an hour. A sow goes down, so he.

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<v Speaker 1>Gets to the hospital and basically all of his skins

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<v Speaker 1>and soft tissue and muscle are gone from his forehead

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<v Speaker 1>into his nose, his scalp is exposed. It's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so shocking, even to the doctors that are there. His

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<v Speaker 1>what is left of his eyeball. So apparently this, this

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<v Speaker 1>person that attacked him ate one of his eyeballs and

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<v Speaker 1>there was like kind of a piece of it left,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was blind. They were not able to salvage

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<v Speaker 1>his eyeballs, and they were able to stabilize him and

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<v Speaker 1>keep him alive, and they wanted to give him They

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<v Speaker 1>met up with a bunch of surgeons and created a

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<v Speaker 1>team so they were able to reconstruct his face and

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<v Speaker 1>they so they thought maybe we could get on prosthetic

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and a prosthetic nose, and he declined to have

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<v Speaker 1>any more intervention at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>He declined it. But he ended up recovering pretty okay

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<v Speaker 2>within a month of this happening, and he went on

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<v Speaker 2>to live in the facility. He was working with an

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<v Speaker 2>occupational therapist. He learned how to feed himself, get dressed again,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's even playing guitar, which is kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is really cool. I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like such a horrible thing, but maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>almost It gave him kind of a new lease on

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<v Speaker 1>life and he you know, he was able to enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of his life like that, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. I think it's kind of cool. If if

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<v Speaker 1>he was just homeless and stuff, it might have just

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<v Speaker 1>been you know, sometimes people have to have this like

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<v Speaker 1>near death experience to get their stuff together a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, all right. Our next one is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the wildest deer Abbey submissions I've ever seen. So a

0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.000
<v Speaker 2>person wrote into deer abby which is an advice column,

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<v Speaker 2>so you could write in and get advice. So they

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<v Speaker 2>had a pretty complicated predicament. They said they were close

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<v Speaker 2>with their neighbors, and their neighbors had three adult children,

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<v Speaker 2>so the parents wanted to have more of a friendly

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic with the kids, not as harsh parenting. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you and I have a pretty good balance of that,

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<v Speaker 2>where like we're best friends, but at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>you know where to step in and be my parent

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<v Speaker 2>and discipline me over my life. I mean, not that

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<v Speaker 2>you've had to do that much of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the same with your Yeah, well well you're

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<v Speaker 1>you were kind of an easy kid, but I it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same with the kids now. Like I had I

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<v Speaker 1>I try to be friends with them. I want them

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<v Speaker 1>to come to me and like want to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with me and want to be around me. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, like you got to keep them in

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<v Speaker 1>line a little bit, you know. Yeah, so these people

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<v Speaker 1>and still have to keep your kids in line even

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<v Speaker 1>when they're thirty years old. There's no time that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no time to cut that off, you know, because the

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<v Speaker 1>only way you get better in life is if people

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<v Speaker 1>are constantly checking you and putting you in your putting

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<v Speaker 1>you in your place, right cause if you always have

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that's like you're the best, I agree with you,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just gonna suck as a person, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we've been talking about that theme a lot

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<v Speaker 2>over the last couple of weeks, just how we're like

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<v Speaker 2>thankful our husbands, you know, are very much okay with

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<v Speaker 2>telling us when we did something wrong and we suck. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you need that in your life because, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody's you know, just telling you you're the best

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the world, you're just gonna become a monster

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<v Speaker 2>and just not know how to treat anybody, or you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna just be totally negligent like these people. So basically

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<v Speaker 2>one of their kids who was nineteen years old. She

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<v Speaker 2>was having a severe drug and alcohol problem. The parents

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<v Speaker 2>had been called one night because she was at a

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<v Speaker 2>friend's house and she was absolutely melting down having a

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<v Speaker 2>freak out. They had to go pick her up, so

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<v Speaker 2>on the way back, they call this neighbor and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>can you come help us with her? She's freaking out

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<v Speaker 2>so badly. We don't know what to do. So at

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<v Speaker 2>this point they're asking the neighbor for help, so keep

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<v Speaker 2>that in mind as we keep going. So the they

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<v Speaker 2>get back and the daughter keeps throwing a fit. She's

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<v Speaker 2>freaking out so bad, So the neighbor wants to call

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<v Speaker 2>nine one one, and the parents are like, no, We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna tie her down to the furniture and let her

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<v Speaker 2>keep freaking out until she falls asleep and sleeps it off.

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<v Speaker 2>Like is this something you could sleep off?

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<v Speaker 3>People live? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of these stories are just like what is

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<v Speaker 1>happening in the world? This is so insane, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think like, if she said that she was going to

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<v Speaker 1>tie up her daughter to a piece of furniture to

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<v Speaker 1>let her work out whatever episode she was having, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's been done in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Past exactly, because you wouldn't just be so forthcoming with

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<v Speaker 2>that information like it's just a regular occurrence in your household,

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<v Speaker 2>that that's what's happen, that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the kid went and like, I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>left out kind of a part that is even what

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit even more like above weirdness is

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<v Speaker 1>that when this kid was in the got picked up

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<v Speaker 1>from wherever she was, she was freaking out in the

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<v Speaker 1>car so bad that she kicked the window out and

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<v Speaker 1>was peeing in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>She was peeing in the car, and she was saying

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<v Speaker 2>she wanted to die.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I think clearly the neighbor can, being

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<v Speaker 1>an outsider, looks and says, okay, when people people are

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<v Speaker 1>acting like this, it's like a huge cry for help,

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<v Speaker 1>or she's having some kind of psychotic episode, or on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, she just has a mental illness which

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<v Speaker 1>is exacerbated by whatever substance abuse issues she's having. But

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<v Speaker 1>that kid clearly needed to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Some help, right absolutely, So she keeps freaking out so badly,

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<v Speaker 2>so the neighbor is finally like, I'm gonna call nine

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<v Speaker 2>one one because a she's threatened she's threatening her life,

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<v Speaker 2>saying she doesn't want to live anymore, and she just

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<v Speaker 2>nothing could calm her down, which it's not a normal situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So the guy tells the parents he's gonna call nine

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<v Speaker 2>one one, and they flip out, so he does it

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<v Speaker 2>anyway because it's just not de escalating at all. They come,

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<v Speaker 2>she gets fifty one fifty, which puts her in an

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<v Speaker 2>involuntary seventy two hour hold in a psychiatric facility, and

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<v Speaker 2>the parents are now mad at the neighbor.

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<v Speaker 3>That's typical of parents that act that way.

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<v Speaker 1>That that reminds me of the parents that are always like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not my kid, My kid's not the problem, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, it's And that's how when you when

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you see a parent that's like that, their their child

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<v Speaker 1>always ends up growing up to be a complete nightmare

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.680
<v Speaker 1>because of that, you could see it, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, we know a situation right now or why didn't

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<v Speaker 2>that go down? So I don't know like this, So

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<v Speaker 2>the point of this is the person is writing into

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<v Speaker 2>der Abby asking advice on how to handle this, to

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<v Speaker 2>which the writer, I don't is this person's name actually Abby?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>So this I think when it started back because it's

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 1>been around a really long time. I don't think she's

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<v Speaker 1>like the aridge. I'm thinking I think it's like a

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:42.640
<v Speaker 1>team of people. At this point, it's been going on

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>for decades.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But the whole thing is just kind of weird because

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 1>she just writes back and she's just like, yet, no,

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.479
<v Speaker 1>your neighbor sucks, you were right kind of thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's funny that somebody would, even you're

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.439
<v Speaker 1>when you're around craziness, that you even have to question

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that this was that this was wrong of them to

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>not want to send their kid to get help. It's

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>just it's kind of funny that somebody would take their

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 1>time out to like write this letter just and not

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>really know that they were one hundred percent right.

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Imagine if imagine if.

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 1>The neighbor didn't I mean, first of all, like how

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 1>do you even go home and go to bed at

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 1>night after that?

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>But imagine if the neighbor didn't intervene, and the kid

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>went home and either ended up killing herself or ended

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>up getting really hurt because the parents were trying to

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>restrain her and stuff. How would you live with yourself?

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Knowing that you didn't do what your gut feeling told

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:35.879
<v Speaker 1>you that was the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Listen, my advice would be give it six

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 2>months and if they don't sell their house, you got

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.400
<v Speaker 2>to sell your house because you just can't keep living

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 2>next to these people.

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know why you would be friends with

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 3>those people? Like what good? They're mad at you. They

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:50.120
<v Speaker 3>won't talk to you anymore, will you win?

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:50.439
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Right, well, that, but do you want to keep witnessing

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 2>this going down? I mean, clearly this person is in

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:57.880
<v Speaker 2>crisis or they're having a drug issue, so like they

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.640
<v Speaker 2>need help in their parents or just like oh, they'll

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:03.640
<v Speaker 2>figure it out. That people need help sometimes. It's why

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 2>there's a whole television show called Intervention, Like they need

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.679
<v Speaker 2>people to step in and help them. I don't know.

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:12.959
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's sad.

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 1>And one of the you know, the biggest fears as

0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>a parent is when I mean, I have an older

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.640
<v Speaker 1>kid that got out of all that stuff, but it's

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>like you have two little ones, and then when you

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 1>hear stories about this about kids that are teenagers and

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 1>they're on drugs and they're just acting like this, it's

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so scary to think that that happens as a parent.

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>But you also can't be in denial. I mean, that's

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's denial that there's something wrong. You

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>should never have to go pick up a nineteen year

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>old child and feel like you need to tie them

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 1>to furniture to work whatever out temper tantrum they're having out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that is just absolutely ridiculous. I don't blame honestly,

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>if I were the neighbor, I would feel good that

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I could sleep at night knowing I did the right

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 2>thing in that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm if this story is how it all is,

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know what the neighbor had told the cops.

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the cops should have and there should

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>be an investigation on the parents because if they said

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to tie the child down, I mean, she's

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>not a child anymore. She's nineteen years old, right, yeah, so.

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't be child.

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>But but you it's stole people abuse like you need

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>to yeah, you know what I mean. You're not allowed

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to tie down another human, no matter what age they are.

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>So they really should investigate and see, like, what the

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>hell is going on in that household? You know what

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Yeah, and like they shouldn't just like ignore that,

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and like, are the other kids they have okay or

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>is this one just a problem. And I don't know,

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious what the other siblings think about all of this.

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>And it just seems like an incredibly problematic dynamic from

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>parent to child. Could you imagine just I mean, it's

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 1>better that it's not you, I guess, but live in

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 1>next door to someone that's just like living this absolute ceyziness.

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 3>It's just no because all my neighbors are getting dragged

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 3>into that shitjeseus.

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, all my neighbors are old, so nothing really goes

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>down in my neighborhood. But when I lived in South Philly,

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, things like this were going on all the time.

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.479
<v Speaker 2>There is one day I was home and all these

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 2>people tried to break into my next four neighbor's house

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 2>because she called the cops on them for selling drugs.

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 2>It was like crazy, Oh my god, And I'm like,

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I gotta get out of here, dude. Like I love

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 2>watching the drama from Afar, but I don't want to

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>be like smack in the middle of it. Yeah, especially

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 2>when I have to like go to work and there's

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>a confrontation outside. Yeah, no, thank you. Okay. This next

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>one's called Buried Alive. A twenty five year old male

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 2>was digging a ditch that was over sixteen foot deep.

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 2>So when you're digging, you're not really supposed to dig

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 2>deeper than your shoulders because of the obvious frisks if

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 2>it were to cave in. Yeah.

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>So in this case, he was doing some kind of

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>construction stuff and digging a ditch or a trench. But

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>we we heard a story we reported on Mother Nose Death, Yeah,

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 1>about the child and the sand on the beach. Yeah,

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's a similar thing like you just can't.

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 3>You can't.

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>You can bury a hole if you're going to go

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>into it up to your knees and you'll be fine,

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 1>but think about if it's up to your shoulders and

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 1>it compresses your chest, you're not going to even be

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>able to get your arms out and be able to

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>get out of it. So you just have to be

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>really careful if you're ever digging in that kind of situation.

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>But it's funny like Gabe and I will be driving

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>around all the time and you just see people doing

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>construction on houses, especially kind of around. I don't know

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly what they're doing when they're digging around the house,

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>like maybe for some kind of drain or something or

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but He'll always just be like, those

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>people are such idiots. They should not be standing in

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a hole that deep that I only could see their

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>head sticking out of it, you know what I mean.

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>So in this case, when they did the autopsy on

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>this guy, it's such it's such a striking autopsy to

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>see because there's just sand like packed inside the guy's mouth,

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>inside the guy's trachea, inside the guy's esophagus. So his

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>cause of death was caused by asphyxia, which he just

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>had the inability to breathe. But at the same time,

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>this also proves that he was actively trying to breathe

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>while he was stuck under the sand, which is so scary.

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 2>So, like, how if this were going to cave in, Like,

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>do you have any chance of surviving it or does

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>it just happen so quickly that it fills up in

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>your mouth?

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, if you're if you're I mean, you're gonna panic, right,

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>and your heart rate's going to increase and everything like that.

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>And if you're going to try to grasp for air,

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>because that's the problem. It's like twofold. It's number one

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that the weight of the sand is compressing on your chest,

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>so you're having a hard time expanding to breathe anyway,

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and then the sand is filling up inside of your

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>mouth if you don't keep your mouth shut. I mean,

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess if this even happened with that child though,

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I think it happened in front of the parents

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and they just weren't able to get her out in time,

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>just because it goes so fast. I mean, think about

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>how long you could hold your breath when you go

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>underwater or something. It's not very long, yeah.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>And and just that fight or flight response of panicking

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. You what, are you just going to sit

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>there and just try to be calm though, You're going

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>to try to move as much as you can, and

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>like you know, and the movement causes you to need

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to take increased breaths and everything. It's just it's just

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you just have to try to prevent it. Like this

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>is a completely preventable accident. And it's the same exact

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>thing with the digging of the holes in the beach

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that it's just preventable, you know.

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think just with a lot of these cases,

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>everybody just has the mindset of it won't happen to me,

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's just better to be safe, you know.

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Our last one is called teamwork. So a sixty nine

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 2>year old male was found dead in his house, which

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, that's young to be found just did.

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 3>My cut off?

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I guess my cutoff is seventy, So I would say, like, yeah,

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it is, it is young, but seventies, like seventy is

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the age where I feel like you see it more,

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like more people die over

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the age of seventy. That's when that's the more common

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>thing to say under seventy. So it's like sixty nine

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>is kind of like right there at the magic number

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>for me.

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm sure I've said this before, but

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 2>my friend Alicia worked a retirement home when she does

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>speech therapy, So she was working at a retirement home

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>at some point, and every time like, oh, a ninety

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>year old died, She's like, that is so young. You

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>don't you wouldn't imagine how long people live until you

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 2>work in that environment and you're around so many elder people.

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I in my mind, thinking of

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>everything she says, I think sixty nine is pretty young

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 2>to be found.

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is how I look at it. Right, If

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you're sixty nine and you've been living a healthy life,

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>like you have a pretty good wait and you work

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>out once in a while, and you eat well, and

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you take care of yourself, and you don't smoke and

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't drink, sixty nine is young to die. But

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a certain point, and probably it's right around my age,

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.239
<v Speaker 1>like forty forty five, where you start getting old, like

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>your shit starts shutting down. You can't eat the way

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you used to, you can't drink the way you used to,

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you can't not exercise the way you used to, Like,

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you have to start maintaining. And if people don't maintain

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>from the age of forty on, then you're going to

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>see people that are dying at in their sixties and seventies.

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>But and then there's like this other big component component

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>of genetics too, you know what I mean. So it's

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>just like a combination of both. So so many of

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the autopsies that I did, we're in people that were

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>seventy years old, right, But it's always people that had

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>they drank alcohol, or they smoked cigarettes, or they just

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>had they were overweight their whole life or whatever, and

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just kept caught up with them, you know what

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So police search through this guy's house and they

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>realize it's filled with urine feces and there's thirty plus

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 2>cats roaming around the house.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 3>So it was like a hoarded situation.

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>So what did they see it the autopsy were they

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.959
<v Speaker 2>even able to determine how he died? So when they

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 2>did the autopsy, they looked at all of he had

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of wounds. His whole entire neck, his bottom

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 2>of his face was essentially gone. His neck was essentially gone,

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 2>and his chest and abdomen were open and looked like

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>it had wounds around it. But the interesting thing is

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 2>is that the edges of the wounds. Normally, if you

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 2>saw someone that had trauma like that to their body,

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 2>you would think.

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, they were murdered. You see these horrible like open

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 3>gashes on this person's body. How would you do that?

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 3>But the edges of the wounds.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Were very like a yellowish color and they didn't look

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.239
<v Speaker 1>like they were done while the guy was alive and

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>his heart was still beating. It looked like it happened

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<v Speaker 1>after he was dead. So they came to the determination

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<v Speaker 1>that his cats ate him after he died, and which

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<v Speaker 1>happens more often than you would think because guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>like if an animal's left alone in a house, then

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<v Speaker 1>the person, the only person that was living there, is

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<v Speaker 1>not feeding them anymore, then they start to eat you

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<v Speaker 1>because you're a piece of meat at that point, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And they they weren't able to determine how he died

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<v Speaker 1>because almost all of his lungs and heart were missing,

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<v Speaker 1>so they couldn't really say, like what he died from.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is just kind of nuts, like DoD

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<v Speaker 2>dogs do this too? Or is it just mostly seen?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, dogs do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Even did dogs do it worse because they have they're

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, thirty cats is a lot. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting in this case report how they were saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you could see like what happens when a pack of

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<v Speaker 1>like carnivores works together, and it because the guy didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really seem to be dead for a whole long of

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<v Speaker 1>a time. He doesn't really look too decomposed, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just they just ate them, like like you would see

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<v Speaker 1>a lion eating a hyaena or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not how long do you think it took

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<v Speaker 2>them to start eating him, like a couple hours after

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<v Speaker 2>he died, or until he started decomposing. It's hard to say,

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<v Speaker 2>because like if this happened, if I lived at this

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<v Speaker 2>house by myself with my cat, right, my cat has

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<v Speaker 2>she ate this morning? She got a full bowelt of

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<v Speaker 2>food there that will last her a couple of days, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but at some point, I mean she eats every day,

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<v Speaker 2>but she eats lunch and dinner or every single day,

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<v Speaker 2>or breakfast and dinner every day, and on top of

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<v Speaker 2>that has access to a bowl of food every day.

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<v Speaker 2>This situation these cats were living in, I mean, think

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<v Speaker 2>about beating thirty cats. They might have been like very

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<v Speaker 2>hungry before he even died. Thirty cats is just so

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<v Speaker 2>much cat food. I mean, yeah, that's was he adequately

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<v Speaker 2>feeding them? I don't know, so they could have already

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<v Speaker 2>been in this like desperation starvation mode, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what I mean at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, clearly, I feel like you're breaching on

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're running an animal facility or shelter or something

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<v Speaker 2>like something's going on, if you're having thirty animals in

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<v Speaker 2>your house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like try like having five animals plus sives kind

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<v Speaker 3>of It depends.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's a lot, but it I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it just depends on what kind of house you live in,

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<v Speaker 1>like what size, because if you have like a ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand square foot house, having five dogs isn't that big

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<v Speaker 1>of a deal. But when actually, when I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the girls that was in my class, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to a sleepover at her house and she had

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<v Speaker 1>this super tiny, like Cape Cod house. It was similar

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<v Speaker 1>to our first house. It was like that small, and

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<v Speaker 1>she had three Great Danes living in that house. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the size of a fucking horse. Like it was insane,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't I just remember being like what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck like they were they were just in the whole.

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<v Speaker 3>House, like all over the place. It was just the

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<v Speaker 3>most insane thing I ever saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really I don't understand how you would have

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<v Speaker 2>three dogs at large in a house that size.

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<v Speaker 1>I I also I don't know if that's even good

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<v Speaker 1>for them, you know what I mean, Like don't I

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<v Speaker 1>guess if there's a backyard or something, But should they

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<v Speaker 1>really be living in a space like that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>almost I remember the dogs kept like knocking stuff off

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<v Speaker 1>of the counters in the kitchens and stuff because they

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<v Speaker 1>just were like there was nowhere for them to even

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<v Speaker 1>really turn their bodies. It was just it was really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it sucks that, you know, you just

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<v Speaker 2>love them your whole life and then the second you

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<v Speaker 2>die they eat you. So is what it is. Yeah,

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