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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk

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Speaker 1: Hi everyone walk on The Mother Knows Death. Let's get

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Speaker 1: started with this week's six shocking stories.

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Speaker 2: So I don't even want to start off with what

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Speaker 2: this one's called because they don't want to give it

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Speaker 2: away because it will just ruin the outrageous nature of

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Speaker 2: this case. So, this forty eight year old guy was

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Speaker 2: riding his motorcycle crashed into a truck. Investigators and the

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Speaker 2: driver of the truck found that the accident was odd

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Speaker 2: because the guy on the motorcycle clearly had enough opportunities

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Speaker 2: didn't know what happened. They're like, he just The truck

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Speaker 2: driver just said it came out of nowhere. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: expecting it because of all these other factors. So with this,

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Speaker 2: with this info, they decided they need to look further

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Speaker 2: purely an accident or a suicide attempt because it just

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Speaker 2: seems so bizarre. So in interviews, they had determined that

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Speaker 2: this guy had had body dysmorphia stemming back into his thirties.

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Speaker 2: He suffered from what's called small penis syndrome. Do you

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Speaker 2: want to explain what that is because it kind of

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Speaker 2: sounds fake.

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Speaker 3: I know, I couldn't even believe this was a real thing.

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Speaker 1: But it's also referred to as penile dysmorphic syndrome or disorder,

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Speaker 1: and it's a subcategory. I think that now with all

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Speaker 1: the plastic surgery and stuff we hear about on the news,

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Speaker 1: we hear about body dysmorphic syndrome a lot, and this

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Speaker 1: is kind of a subcategory of it, where men feel

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Speaker 1: like their penis size is too small, even though their

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Speaker 1: penis size is completely normal. They just have this distorted

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Speaker 1: view of what it really looks like. Yeah, so why,

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Speaker 1: I guess you're asking, like, why is this relevant?

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Speaker 2: Right? So they're trying to figure out what was going

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Speaker 2: on in this guy's head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and trying to see because just based on the

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Speaker 1: he was suicidal. So it looked like he was suffering

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Speaker 1: from this syndrome. And it became so bad that his

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Speaker 1: job as a police officer was affected, and he lost

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Speaker 1: his job as a police officer and became estranged from

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Speaker 1: his wife and children. So it was that bad, all right,

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Speaker 1: So let's get to the autopsy. So first I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you, when you guys get a body that

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Speaker 1: is clothed, is it part of the external exam to

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Speaker 1: take the clothes off or it is like an assistant

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Speaker 1: do it and then you guys come in and look

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Speaker 2: How does it work?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So in the hospital, obviously we always get someone that's

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Speaker 1: wearing a hospital gown or they're naked in the body bag.

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Speaker 1: That's how we get them there. But at the medical

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Speaker 1: examiner's office, people come in how they're found dead, So

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Speaker 1: we would describe exactly what clothes they're wearing, and if

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Speaker 1: there was any kind of damage or anything to the clothes.

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Speaker 1: You know, if somebody gets shot, you would obviously sometimes

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Speaker 1: see a gunshot entry or or exit through the clothes.

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Speaker 1: So it's important to document all that kind of stuff

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Speaker 1: and also just tells you a little bit about the

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Speaker 1: condition the person was living in. Like sometimes if a

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Speaker 1: person is wearing pants that clearly haven't been washed in weeks,

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Speaker 1: that are soaked with urine, they might they might be homeless,

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Speaker 1: of condition. But yeah, we I mean, at some point

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Speaker 1: So that would be something when when I was interning

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Speaker 1: at the Medical Examiner's office, that's something that we actually

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Speaker 3: That was our job.

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Speaker 1: Or we would help the investigators or the text working

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Speaker 1: there do that. And it's it is kind of difficult

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Speaker 2: And I assume you can't just well, depending on the

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Speaker 2: I don't know, we will cut them off sometimes, I

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Speaker 2: don't think. I mean, if your family member died and

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's I'm not sure. I never even I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: What happened at the Medical Examiner's office because it was

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Speaker 3: There what they did with the clothes, But if we

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Speaker 1: We don't. I don't think I've ever had a situation

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Speaker 1: But I don't know what they do with the clothes there.

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Speaker 1: They probably get rid of them because they're soiled in

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Speaker 1: body fluids, like a biohazard bag or something. All right,

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Speaker 1: So keep what we were talking about earlier in mind,

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Speaker 1: with what's going on in his brain. So they we

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Speaker 1: and find the most shocking thing of all in this story.

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Speaker 1: So he has this giant fake penis attached to his body.

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Speaker 1: And you have to see the picture of it, because

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Speaker 1: that's what makes it so shocking, because it looks so ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: It looks homemade.

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Speaker 1: It was huge, it was ten inches long, so and

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Speaker 1: it's the it doesn't match his skin color.

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Speaker 3: It has this fake pubic.

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Speaker 1: Hair kind of hot glued onto it, and the most

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Speaker 1: odd part of it is it's attached around his hip

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Speaker 1: by a wire that is similar to the thickness of

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Speaker 1: like a chain link fence. This it looks horribly uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: and wow, it imagine how shocked they were to find

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and ultimately, with all the information they had about

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Speaker 2: made suicidal attempts in the past. So I guess this

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Speaker 2: got ruled an accident, right, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean he didn't have any I don't know, because I

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Speaker 1: then his family he was estranged from his family, lost

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Speaker 1: his job, I would say he was dealing with documented

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Speaker 1: where the threshold for that is. That that would probably

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Speaker 1: be based upon the medical examiner who's signing out the autopsy.

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Speaker 1: But this really has nothing to do with his cause

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Speaker 1: of death. He had a broken skull and a brain

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Speaker 1: bleed from the motorcycle accident, so his cause of death

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Speaker 1: was due to that. It's just more talking about the

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Speaker 1: manner of death was it was it accidental or was

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if the fake penis like got in his

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Speaker 2: way and distracted him and that's why he drove into

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Speaker 2: the truck. I'm not sure that the thing is just

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Speaker 2: it is outrageously it is outrageously huge. I can't imagine

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Speaker 2: wearing that in your pants. And because it's not like

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Speaker 2: to your body. How it might I don't know. You're

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Speaker 2: just not used to being there, so I just don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it could have been very distracting.

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Speaker 1: So at the autopsy, so this is not a typical

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Speaker 1: thing we do at autopsy, they measured his penis and

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Speaker 1: it was four inches flaccid, which is completely within the

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Speaker 1: normal average of a penis. So it's not like he

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure that that really had to be

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Speaker 1: done for this case, Like, it's kind of weird to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, that one's called dildo on the dead,

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Speaker 2: So I guess you could assume why I didn't want

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you really need to you really need to

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Speaker 1: see the picture. It's it really is shocking, all right.

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Speaker 2: Our next one's called Bloody Barbie. So a mother was

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Speaker 2: were taking a bath, playing with barbies in the tub.

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Speaker 2: Suddenly she heard a scream from one of her daughters,

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Speaker 2: then had said, okay, what they were asking the kid like,

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Speaker 2: this injury. So at urgent care they decided that this

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Speaker 1: And what's interesting about this case is that it ends

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Speaker 1: up being it ends up being very innocent. But from

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Speaker 1: And in this case, they interviewed this child and asked

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Speaker 1: had a laceration in her vagina, very close to her cervix.

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Speaker 1: So I think the most one of the most shocking

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Speaker 1: necessarily shocking, but it's just kind of a crazy picture

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Speaker 1: to see is that. The photo that comes along with

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Speaker 1: this story is a bathtub that's got five Barbie dolls

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Speaker 1: laying across it. One has their leg up so you

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's a really disturbing sight to see

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Speaker 2: children's toys in blood. This is a complete freak accident.

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Speaker 2: It's so bizarre that it happened this way. I always

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Speaker 2: think of kids, just like, you know, when the girls

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Speaker 2: were like taking baths and stuff, they'd just be like

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Speaker 2: crazy in there. I'm like, dude, you're gonna fall.

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Speaker 3: Be careful. Oh yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: And my kids used to play with the barbies and

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Speaker 1: there was like ten of them in the bathtub.

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Speaker 3: And I let them do it.

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Speaker 1: And then after a couple of days, I was just like, dude,

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Speaker 1: we can't do this anymore because the fact that they're

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Speaker 3: Is just not good.

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Speaker 1: It could I can't because barbies aren't really meant to

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Speaker 1: that kid clearly needed to get.

438
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: Some help, right absolutely, So she keeps freaking out so badly,

439
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: so the neighbor is finally like, I'm gonna call nine

440
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: one one because a she's threatened she's threatening her life,

441
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: saying she doesn't want to live anymore, and she just

442
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: nothing could calm her down, which it's not a normal situation.

443
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 2: So the guy tells the parents he's gonna call nine

444
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: one one, and they flip out, so he does it

445
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: anyway because it's just not de escalating at all. They come,

446
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 2: she gets fifty one fifty, which puts her in an

447
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,239
Speaker 2: involuntary seventy two hour hold in a psychiatric facility, and

448
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: the parents are now mad at the neighbor.

449
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: That's typical of parents that act that way.

450
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: That that reminds me of the parents that are always like,

451
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: it's not my kid, My kid's not the problem, you know,

452
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's And that's how when you when

453
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: you see a parent that's like that, their their child

454
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: always ends up growing up to be a complete nightmare

455
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: because of that, you could see it, you.

456
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: Know, we know a situation right now or why didn't

457
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: that go down? So I don't know like this, So

458
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: the point of this is the person is writing into

459
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 2: der Abby asking advice on how to handle this, to

460
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: which the writer, I don't is this person's name actually Abby?

461
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

462
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: So this I think when it started back because it's

463
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: been around a really long time. I don't think she's

464
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: like the aridge. I'm thinking I think it's like a

465
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: team of people. At this point, it's been going on

466
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: for decades.

467
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

468
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: But the whole thing is just kind of weird because

469
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: she just writes back and she's just like, yet, no,

470
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 1: your neighbor sucks, you were right kind of thing. It's

471
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: it's I think it's funny that somebody would, even you're

472
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: when you're around craziness, that you even have to question

473
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: that this was that this was wrong of them to

474
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: not want to send their kid to get help. It's

475
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: just it's kind of funny that somebody would take their

476
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: time out to like write this letter just and not

477
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: really know that they were one hundred percent right.

478
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 3: Imagine if imagine if.

479
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: The neighbor didn't I mean, first of all, like how

480
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: do you even go home and go to bed at

481
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: night after that?

482
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: Right?

483
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: But imagine if the neighbor didn't intervene, and the kid

484
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: went home and either ended up killing herself or ended

485
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: up getting really hurt because the parents were trying to

486
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: restrain her and stuff. How would you live with yourself?

487
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: Knowing that you didn't do what your gut feeling told

488
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: you that was the right thing to do.

489
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: You know, Listen, my advice would be give it six

490
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: months and if they don't sell their house, you got

491
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: to sell your house because you just can't keep living

492
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: next to these people.

493
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

494
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 3: I don't even know why you would be friends with

495
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: those people? Like what good? They're mad at you. They

496
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 3: won't talk to you anymore, will you win?

497
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: Like?

498
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: Right, well, that, but do you want to keep witnessing

499
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: this going down? I mean, clearly this person is in

500
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 2: crisis or they're having a drug issue, so like they

501
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: need help in their parents or just like oh, they'll

502
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: figure it out. That people need help sometimes. It's why

503
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: there's a whole television show called Intervention, Like they need

504
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 2: people to step in and help them. I don't know.

505
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 3: I mean it's sad.

506
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: And one of the you know, the biggest fears as

507
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: a parent is when I mean, I have an older

508
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: kid that got out of all that stuff, but it's

509
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: like you have two little ones, and then when you

510
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: hear stories about this about kids that are teenagers and

511
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: they're on drugs and they're just acting like this, it's

512
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: it's so scary to think that that happens as a parent.

513
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: But you also can't be in denial. I mean, that's

514
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: what it is. It's denial that there's something wrong. You

515
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: should never have to go pick up a nineteen year

516
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: old child and feel like you need to tie them

517
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: to furniture to work whatever out temper tantrum they're having out.

518
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: You know, that is just absolutely ridiculous. I don't blame honestly,

519
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: if I were the neighbor, I would feel good that

520
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: I could sleep at night knowing I did the right

521
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: thing in that situation.

522
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: I I'm if this story is how it all is,

523
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know what the neighbor had told the cops.

524
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: I feel like the cops should have and there should

525
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: be an investigation on the parents because if they said

526
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: they wanted to tie the child down, I mean, she's

527
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: not a child anymore. She's nineteen years old, right, yeah, so.

528
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: Couldn't be child.

529
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: But but you it's stole people abuse like you need

530
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: to yeah, you know what I mean. You're not allowed

531
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: to tie down another human, no matter what age they are.

532
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: So they really should investigate and see, like, what the

533
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: hell is going on in that household? You know what

534
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Yeah, and like they shouldn't just like ignore that,

535
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: and like, are the other kids they have okay or

536
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: is this one just a problem. And I don't know,

537
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm curious what the other siblings think about all of this.

538
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: And it just seems like an incredibly problematic dynamic from

539
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: parent to child. Could you imagine just I mean, it's

540
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: better that it's not you, I guess, but live in

541
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: next door to someone that's just like living this absolute ceyziness.

542
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 3: It's just no because all my neighbors are getting dragged

543
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: into that shitjeseus.

544
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: Well, all my neighbors are old, so nothing really goes

545
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: down in my neighborhood. But when I lived in South Philly,

546
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: you know, things like this were going on all the time.

547
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 2: There is one day I was home and all these

548
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: people tried to break into my next four neighbor's house

549
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: because she called the cops on them for selling drugs.

550
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: It was like crazy, Oh my god, And I'm like,

551
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: I gotta get out of here, dude. Like I love

552
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: watching the drama from Afar, but I don't want to

553
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: be like smack in the middle of it. Yeah, especially

554
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 2: when I have to like go to work and there's

555
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: a confrontation outside. Yeah, no, thank you. Okay. This next

556
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: one's called Buried Alive. A twenty five year old male

557
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: was digging a ditch that was over sixteen foot deep.

558
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: So when you're digging, you're not really supposed to dig

559
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: deeper than your shoulders because of the obvious frisks if

560
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: it were to cave in. Yeah.

561
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: So in this case, he was doing some kind of

562
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: construction stuff and digging a ditch or a trench. But

563
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: we we heard a story we reported on Mother Nose Death, Yeah,

564
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: about the child and the sand on the beach. Yeah,

565
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: and it's it's a similar thing like you just can't.

566
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: You can't.

567
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: You can bury a hole if you're going to go

568
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: into it up to your knees and you'll be fine,

569
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: but think about if it's up to your shoulders and

570
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: it compresses your chest, you're not going to even be

571
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: able to get your arms out and be able to

572
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: get out of it. So you just have to be

573
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: really careful if you're ever digging in that kind of situation.

574
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: But it's funny like Gabe and I will be driving

575
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: around all the time and you just see people doing

576
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: construction on houses, especially kind of around. I don't know

577
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing when they're digging around the house,

578
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: like maybe for some kind of drain or something or

579
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, but He'll always just be like, those

580
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: people are such idiots. They should not be standing in

581
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: a hole that deep that I only could see their

582
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: head sticking out of it, you know what I mean.

583
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: So in this case, when they did the autopsy on

584
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: this guy, it's such it's such a striking autopsy to

585
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: see because there's just sand like packed inside the guy's mouth,

586
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: inside the guy's trachea, inside the guy's esophagus. So his

587
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: cause of death was caused by asphyxia, which he just

588
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: had the inability to breathe. But at the same time,

589
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: this also proves that he was actively trying to breathe

590
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: while he was stuck under the sand, which is so scary.

591
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: So, like, how if this were going to cave in, Like,

592
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: do you have any chance of surviving it or does

593
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: it just happen so quickly that it fills up in

594
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: your mouth?

595
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: Well, if you're if you're I mean, you're gonna panic, right,

596
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: and your heart rate's going to increase and everything like that.

597
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: And if you're going to try to grasp for air,

598
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: because that's the problem. It's like twofold. It's number one

599
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: that the weight of the sand is compressing on your chest,

600
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: so you're having a hard time expanding to breathe anyway,

601
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: and then the sand is filling up inside of your

602
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: mouth if you don't keep your mouth shut. I mean,

603
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: I guess if this even happened with that child though,

604
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: Like I think it happened in front of the parents

605
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: and they just weren't able to get her out in time,

606
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: just because it goes so fast. I mean, think about

607
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: how long you could hold your breath when you go

608
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: underwater or something. It's not very long, yeah.

609
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: You know.

610
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: And and just that fight or flight response of panicking

611
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: and stuff. You what, are you just going to sit

612
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: there and just try to be calm though, You're going

613
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: to try to move as much as you can, and

614
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: like you know, and the movement causes you to need

615
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: to take increased breaths and everything. It's just it's just

616
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: you just have to try to prevent it. Like this

617
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: is a completely preventable accident. And it's the same exact

618
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: thing with the digging of the holes in the beach

619
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like that it's just preventable, you know.

620
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think just with a lot of these cases,

621
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: everybody just has the mindset of it won't happen to me,

622
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: and it's just better to be safe, you know.

623
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

624
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: Our last one is called teamwork. So a sixty nine

625
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: year old male was found dead in his house, which

626
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: I feel like, that's young to be found just did.

627
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: My cut off?

628
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: I guess my cutoff is seventy, So I would say, like, yeah,

629
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: it is, it is young, but seventies, like seventy is

630
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: the age where I feel like you see it more,

631
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like more people die over

632
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: the age of seventy. That's when that's the more common

633
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: thing to say under seventy. So it's like sixty nine

634
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: is kind of like right there at the magic number

635
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: for me.

636
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sure I've said this before, but

637
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: my friend Alicia worked a retirement home when she does

638
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: speech therapy, So she was working at a retirement home

639
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: at some point, and every time like, oh, a ninety

640
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: year old died, She's like, that is so young. You

641
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: don't you wouldn't imagine how long people live until you

642
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: work in that environment and you're around so many elder people.

643
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I in my mind, thinking of

644
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: everything she says, I think sixty nine is pretty young

645
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: to be found.

646
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Well, this is how I look at it. Right, If

647
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: you're sixty nine and you've been living a healthy life,

648
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: like you have a pretty good wait and you work

649
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: out once in a while, and you eat well, and

650
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: you take care of yourself, and you don't smoke and

651
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: you don't drink, sixty nine is young to die. But

652
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: there's a certain point, and probably it's right around my age,

653
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: like forty forty five, where you start getting old, like

654
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: your shit starts shutting down. You can't eat the way

655
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Speaker 1: you used to, you can't drink the way you used to,

656
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: you can't not exercise the way you used to, Like,

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Speaker 1: you have to start maintaining. And if people don't maintain

658
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Speaker 1: from the age of forty on, then you're going to

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Speaker 1: see people that are dying at in their sixties and seventies.

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Speaker 1: But and then there's like this other big component component

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Speaker 1: of genetics too, you know what I mean. So it's

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Speaker 1: just like a combination of both. So so many of

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Speaker 1: the autopsies that I did, we're in people that were

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Speaker 1: seventy years old, right, But it's always people that had

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Speaker 1: they drank alcohol, or they smoked cigarettes, or they just

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Speaker 1: had they were overweight their whole life or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: it's just kept caught up with them, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So police search through this guy's house and they

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Speaker 2: realize it's filled with urine feces and there's thirty plus

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Speaker 2: cats roaming around the house.

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Speaker 3: So it was like a hoarded situation.

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Speaker 2: So what did they see it the autopsy were they

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Speaker 2: even able to determine how he died? So when they

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Speaker 2: did the autopsy, they looked at all of he had

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Speaker 2: a lot of wounds. His whole entire neck, his bottom

677
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Speaker 2: of his face was essentially gone. His neck was essentially gone,

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Speaker 2: and his chest and abdomen were open and looked like

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Speaker 2: it had wounds around it. But the interesting thing is

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Speaker 2: is that the edges of the wounds. Normally, if you

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Speaker 2: saw someone that had trauma like that to their body,

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Speaker 2: you would think.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they were murdered. You see these horrible like open

684
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: gashes on this person's body. How would you do that?

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Speaker 3: But the edges of the wounds.

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Speaker 1: Were very like a yellowish color and they didn't look

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Speaker 1: like they were done while the guy was alive and

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00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: his heart was still beating. It looked like it happened

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Speaker 1: after he was dead. So they came to the determination

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Speaker 1: that his cats ate him after he died, and which

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Speaker 1: happens more often than you would think because guess what,

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Speaker 1: like if an animal's left alone in a house, then

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Speaker 1: the person, the only person that was living there, is

694
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Speaker 1: not feeding them anymore, then they start to eat you

695
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Speaker 1: because you're a piece of meat at that point, right,

696
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: And they they weren't able to determine how he died

697
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: because almost all of his lungs and heart were missing,

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Speaker 1: so they couldn't really say, like what he died from.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just kind of nuts, like DoD

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Speaker 2: dogs do this too? Or is it just mostly seen?

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Speaker 3: Yes, dogs do it?

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Speaker 1: Even did dogs do it worse because they have they're

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Speaker 1: I mean, thirty cats is a lot. But it was

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Speaker 1: interesting in this case report how they were saying that

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Speaker 1: you could see like what happens when a pack of

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Speaker 1: like carnivores works together, and it because the guy didn't

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Speaker 1: really seem to be dead for a whole long of

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Speaker 1: a time. He doesn't really look too decomposed, and they

709
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Speaker 1: just they just ate them, like like you would see

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Speaker 1: a lion eating a hyaena or something.

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Speaker 2: It is not how long do you think it took

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Speaker 2: them to start eating him, like a couple hours after

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Speaker 2: he died, or until he started decomposing. It's hard to say,

714
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Speaker 2: because like if this happened, if I lived at this

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Speaker 2: house by myself with my cat, right, my cat has

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Speaker 2: she ate this morning? She got a full bowelt of

717
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: food there that will last her a couple of days, right,

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00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: but at some point, I mean she eats every day,

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Speaker 2: but she eats lunch and dinner or every single day,

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Speaker 2: or breakfast and dinner every day, and on top of

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Speaker 2: that has access to a bowl of food every day.

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Speaker 2: This situation these cats were living in, I mean, think

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Speaker 2: about beating thirty cats. They might have been like very

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Speaker 2: hungry before he even died. Thirty cats is just so

725
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: much cat food. I mean, yeah, that's was he adequately

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00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: feeding them? I don't know, so they could have already

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00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: been in this like desperation starvation mode, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean at that point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, clearly, I feel like you're breaching on

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Speaker 2: unless you're running an animal facility or shelter or something

731
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Speaker 2: like something's going on, if you're having thirty animals in

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Speaker 2: your house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like try like having five animals plus sives kind

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Speaker 3: of It depends.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a lot, but it I guess

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Speaker 1: it just depends on what kind of house you live in,

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Speaker 1: like what size, because if you have like a ten

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Speaker 1: thousand square foot house, having five dogs isn't that big

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Speaker 1: of a deal. But when actually, when I was growing up,

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Speaker 1: one of the girls that was in my class, I

741
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Speaker 1: went to a sleepover at her house and she had

742
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Speaker 1: this super tiny, like Cape Cod house. It was similar

743
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Speaker 1: to our first house. It was like that small, and

744
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: she had three Great Danes living in that house. They're

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00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: the size of a fucking horse. Like it was insane,

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Speaker 1: and I can't I just remember being like what the

747
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: fuck like they were they were just in the whole.

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Speaker 3: House, like all over the place. It was just the

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Speaker 3: most insane thing I ever saw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really I don't understand how you would have

751
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: three dogs at large in a house that size.

752
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Speaker 1: I I also I don't know if that's even good

753
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: for them, you know what I mean, Like don't I

754
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: guess if there's a backyard or something, But should they

755
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: really be living in a space like that. It was

756
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: almost I remember the dogs kept like knocking stuff off

757
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: of the counters in the kitchens and stuff because they

758
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: just were like there was nowhere for them to even

759
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: really turn their bodies. It was just it was really weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it sucks that, you know, you just

761
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: love them your whole life and then the second you

762
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 2: die they eat you. So is what it is. Yeah,

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