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Speaker 1: What if I told you there was more to the

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Speaker 1: story behind game changing events. Get ready for my new podcast,

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Speaker 1: That Moment with Damon John will jump into the personal

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Speaker 1: stories of some of the most influential people on the planet,

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Speaker 1: from business mobiles and celebrities to athletes and artists. This

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Speaker 1: man has touched your life and absolutely has helped the

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Speaker 1: entire world be introduced to this thing called hip hop.

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Speaker 1: It's somebody that many people never really heard of if

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Speaker 1: you didn't live in the New York City area's name

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Speaker 1: is VJ. Ralph McDaniels. Video jockey Ralph McDaniels. He created

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Speaker 1: a show called Video Music Box in nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 1: This is after he pitched the idea to YOMTV raps

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Speaker 1: and all this. But he gave people opportunities who weren't

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Speaker 1: the big, big artists and now today they're the jay Z's,

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Speaker 1: the Nass of the world and everybody else. If there

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Speaker 1: is a rapper you know who is who came up

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Speaker 1: from New York or actually around the country. They begged,

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Speaker 2: Them on the air.

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Speaker 1: And whether it was on the air as one of

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Speaker 1: shouting out to Ralph McDaniels, this man is an absolute pioneer.

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Speaker 1: He also discovered these little four guys name the Fubu

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Speaker 1: Guys and put us on the air and said you

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Speaker 1: better watch out for these guys. And after that every

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Speaker 1: single music artist begged to wear our clothes. He has

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand hours of rare music videos and content such

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Speaker 1: this content. He's also either directed or produced four hundred

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Speaker 1: music videos, including Wu Tang's Cream, Nas it Ain't Hard

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Speaker 1: to Tell, Rox Sane Chante's Rox Sana Roxan, and co

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Speaker 1: focused on and they did a documentary on him in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Showtime Network feature documentary called You're Watching

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Speaker 1: Video Music Box, directed by Nas.

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Speaker 2: He is a.

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Speaker 1: Pillar in the community, serves as a mentor to me

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Speaker 1: and so many other people. It's gonna make you the

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Speaker 1: smartest person in the room. After you listen to this

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Speaker 1: interview with VJ. Ralph McDaniels, one of the most important

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Speaker 1: people in hip hop that many people aren't aware of.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna learn a lot, enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Ralph for being here.

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Speaker 1: It is it's always an honor and a pleasure to

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Speaker 1: I've talked about already in the intro and how much

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Speaker 1: I think that or I know that you live influenced

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Speaker 1: the entire globe, but you are you can you can

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Speaker 1: watch that obviously on your Showtime doc that I've already

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Speaker 1: different categories. Again, because I'm just like you are now

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Speaker 3: You're watching video music.

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Speaker 4: So on the TV show over the years, i'd be like,

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I know because it's so stuck in my head.

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Speaker 1: You know, listen everything from when that thing come on,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the you know, take on Me video

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Speaker 2: Stop talking to me like that.

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Speaker 1: Man, I didn't even get to shout it out because

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Speaker 2: So anyway, what was that album? You were the voice

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Speaker 4: Oh no, that wasn't me, Yes, it was it was

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Speaker 3: I did the vio.

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Speaker 4: Seventies soul that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't you. All those years I thought that was you.

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Speaker 3: Maybe back then they thought it was me. They would

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Speaker 1: Who was that seventies soul something like that?

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Speaker 2: Let me hold on you what you were doing vos?

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Speaker 1: Because I was about I thought it was that moment

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Speaker 3: Maybe they were trying to sound like Ralph McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: I tell you, man, I want to leave this in

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Speaker 4: No, I actually I love that commercial. That's the iconic

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Speaker 3: It's probably on you. Well go check it out, Ralph.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if many people do know, but you

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Speaker 1: you got my Coca Cola commercial from nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: Show many people.

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Speaker 1: And you know, don't think about how valuable today. Of

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Speaker 2: When did you realize that hip hop was.

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Speaker 4: So I was I had first started working in television

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Speaker 3: Know, like why it was just amazing show to me.

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Speaker 4: It was Stevie Wonder and all these different jazz musicians

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Speaker 3: And I said, well, I'm not going to ever let

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Speaker 4: So anytime I recorded something, I just took it and

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Speaker 3: And I took care of it.

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Speaker 4: So for forty years, I'm celebrating forty years of music Box.

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Speaker 3: Now that's what we've been doing.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we can go back and have conversations

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Speaker 3: And I have interviews with these guys. It's like real

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Speaker 4: I thought it was important to just document our culture

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Speaker 1: You know, this is a moment where I just got

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Speaker 1: Now I'm not a thing for My wife is a

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Speaker 2: Come home every year.

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Speaker 1: Honey, box like this, Oh man, look at all these

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Speaker 3: No, all right, we've taken care of that.

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Speaker 1: How much do you think in thirty forty years from

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, ever handed out in history. Oh my goodness, well,

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Speaker 4: That's crazy. So I'm I'm amazed. Well, I'm not amazed

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Speaker 4: worry about it. It happened. But I mean, you're an

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Speaker 3: So I'm pretty sure that it exists somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Now you just go, I hope, but I'm depressed right now.

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Speaker 1: But I do want to show people. I want to

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Speaker 1: because yesterday I was at the two and you gotta

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Speaker 1: go there, Ralph, Oh, I got to connect you with

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Speaker 1: You probably know them. We were at the guy who

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Speaker 1: and you probably have things that, oh my.

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Speaker 2: God, they can go off of. But I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why because I was thinking about all the

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Speaker 2: To the to the museum.

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Speaker 1: But your vision is what I'm This is my point.

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Speaker 2: I'm a kid from the hood.

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Speaker 1: I'm on ABC, I'm on to hit show, and my

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned to you aside your public access channel.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's get a space for this.

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Speaker 1: You know men and women who are every day in

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Speaker 2: Right. If I pay cash, that's one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: Now, I happen to know because immediately if I come

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Speaker 1: But instead of getting mad at them because they're working,

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Speaker 2: You see the car I have? Yeah, you see me?

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Speaker 2: Do I look like an athlete?

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Speaker 2: You ever heard me being a rapper?

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Speaker 3: No?

445
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I got here by being a hustle.

446
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: Don't tell a goddamn hustler how to hustle.

447
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: How do you think I got this?

448
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: Call man by boy. I like his style.

449
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: Now we're speaking of everybody's language. Now you're talking.

450
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: You talk for free ringos, ring goos, they pay two hundred.

451
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

452
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 2: You know. On the flip side, I go buy some

453
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: pots and stuff like that, and I don't know what

454
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Speaker 2: it is.

455
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Speaker 1: Women they have this talent because if I go, and

456
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, every man can understand this, I go to

457
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Speaker 1: return a pot or something like that at brand new

458
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: come back.

459
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,239
Speaker 2: Excuse me? I like the return of these pots. Oh well,

460
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: you gotta go on this line, that line, oh that,

461
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: where's your receipt?

462
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: This that that, you know, whatever the case is, and

463
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Speaker 1: for you know what, I go and I leave. My

464
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: wife shows up. Women have this thing they know how

465
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Speaker 1: each other work. Every time you know, women's shop nine

466
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: times every one time a man shop, my wife will

467
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: show what the pot, It'll have spaghetti in it. She'll

468
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: be like that, right, you dropped on the table. Just

469
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: look the person and the other woman goes it's done,

470
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: It's done, returns and everything because they know they meet

471
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Speaker 1: each other here.

472
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: How do we learn.

473
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: From how you you meet people where they're at and

474
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: our every day, our every day navigating the world or

475
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: navigating the community, navigating business because you have found an

476
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Speaker 1: art in doing so.

477
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Speaker 4: At first, I thought you were going to tell me

478
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 4: you had a way of waiting or not waiting onlines.

479
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 4: I was waiting to hear that one because I've been

480
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: in situations, especially in a woman's store, and women will

481
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Speaker 4: give you.

482
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: A hard time as a man. They already ready to

483
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: beat you up in those stores. But that's what I'm saying.

484
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 2: I know they I leave, I don't even go to

485
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Speaker 2: the store.

486
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: My wife.

487
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: You know they they they got that thing. I know,

488
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: you shopping and I'm shop you know like they have

489
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: that thing. And I'm trying to say we all the

490
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: successful people find ways to meet people where there. So

491
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: whether you you found ways to meet music artists where

492
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: they were at brands, where they're at the inner city,

493
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: the community, you work for, the public library, you work

494
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: with politicians. You have found ways to navigate so many

495
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: things that people can learn from. But how And I

496
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: think it's that commonality that you find in two people

497
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: like you know, how, what what advice can you give

498
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: me now to do the same as I continue, because

499
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 1: it's all about learnings to negotiate in certain ways.

500
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for me, I think that I try

501
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 4: to be myself in my younger days. It was a

502
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: whole too much smiling. It hurt my face that I

503
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 4: was smiling at this stage of the game. I'm like,

504
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 4: let me find out what we have in common. And

505
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 4: then you know, like or I know already what we

506
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 4: have in common because I'm you know, if it's a

507
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 4: celebrity and we start talking about that, we're not talking

508
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: about the album, We're not talking about the movie or

509
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 4: whatever it is that they're doing. And so we had

510
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 4: a whole ten minute conversation about something that they really

511
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: wanted to talk about before we even started really talking.

512
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: And then okay, let's talk about you know, the new

513
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: film that you have out and that's and if you

514
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: look at and when I look at some of my

515
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 4: old clips, the people people go like, Ralph, you really

516
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 4: know that person. I'm like, not really, I just meant

517
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 4: to that day, but it seems like aw. And and

518
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 4: you know what, fifty Cents said that to me one day.

519
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 4: The rapper fifty Cent said, you know what, when I'm

520
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 4: on video music box, I can be myself.

521
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not like when I'm doing big network thing.

522
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 4: You know, I'm I automatically my whole persona Ralph changes

523
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 4: when I'm with you.

524
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: So I'm like, well, that's good, so let's talk.

525
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: You know what I think it does it? Ralph?

526
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: I think that, And I'm gonna play in this podcast,

527
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: you know down in here.

528
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: I want to play.

529
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: Our interview when you gave me my biggest shot in life.

530
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: You gave me that moment that would change my life,

531
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to play that.

532
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. You may you make.

533
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: People feel comfortable, and I think you make them feel

534
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: comfortable by let them talk about themselves what's going on

535
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: in life.

536
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: And I think there's a big lesson we can learn

537
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: from it.

538
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: Now, as you just said that, I want to do

539
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: the same thing with you. I very rarely get a

540
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: chance to repay you for all the things you have

541
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: done for me. But I want to do the same

542
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: thing right now, Hey, Rol, I want to hear about

543
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: you know, the new children's book Roscoe Learns about Video

544
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: Music Box. Let me tell me why did you create this,

545
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: what is the book about, and any other thing else

546
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: that we can learn from this book.

547
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Speaker 4: So, you know, I've been working in libraries for the

548
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: last five years in Queen specifically, and going and looking

549
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: at the bookshelves, and you know, you know, you visited

550
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: your friend.

551
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: Of the library. We don't see enough you.

552
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: Know, hip hop stuff that you know, people can relate

553
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: to the kids in the in the in the communities

554
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: that I'm serving. And I was like, you know, we

555
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: need more books, you know, not the same that there

556
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: aren't any they exist. Well, we need and so I said,

557
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: you know, if I do it, it puts a little

558
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: spotlight on it.

559
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: It's Ralph McDaniels.

560
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: For people that know and who are walking me in

561
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: New York, many of them, especially the educators, the principals,

562
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: the teachers, the different folks that work in schools are

563
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: like Ralph McDaniels that got a book out.

564
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: I grew up watching Now McDaniels, so we got that,

565
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Speaker 3: you know.

566
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Speaker 4: Now we got to get the kids, and I wanted

567
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: to create something for the younger kids, and it also

568
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: needed to have I wanted to create a coloring book

569
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: because I like arts and culture. I liked when I

570
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: was a kid, I liked to draw, you know, just

571
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: doing stuff like that kind of gives you a certain feeling,

572
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: you know, like and I think you come from the

573
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: same place you come from designing clothes, you know.

574
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Speaker 3: And that part.

575
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Speaker 4: But I wanted to make sure that we had some

576
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 4: interesting information in there. So there's word puzzles, there's reading

577
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: comprehension questions, there's.

578
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: Some hard stuff. It's hard for me.

579
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, we did that when we were seven

580
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 4: years old.

581
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: But these are things that I think.

582
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: That we need it and just to take it out

583
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: of a digital space for a minute. We'll probably go

584
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 4: into a digital space eventually because that's what we have

585
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: to do. But right now, it's a book, and it's

586
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: a coloring book. I didn't even know this was a thing. Coloring,

587
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: sip and coloring is a thing.

588
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: Right now for adults.

589
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: Sip and paint, sip and coloring books, and I was

590
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: like really. So adults were like, oh, we can get

591
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: it for one of our sip and coloring events. And

592
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, you know, I didn't make

593
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: it for you guys, but that's fine too. So it's

594
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: a great book. I'm super happy about it. Big up

595
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 4: Shaan Donaldson, who's a teacher who wrote the book because

596
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: she knew how to talk to those kids and she helped.

597
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: And I told she didn't know anything about hip hop.

598
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: So I said, John, I'm going to do, you know,

599
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: the the hip hop part. You do the educational part.

600
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: And that's how we came together.

601
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Speaker 1: What is the book and show how old are the

602
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: kids that the main target of Calvash will go out

603
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: of you know, out of the rain.

604
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, seven seven, Yeah, you know there are some younger

605
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: kids that are you know, a little bit quicker, but

606
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: it's we start at seven up to about twelve thirteen,

607
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: but it can go you know, it's it's a history.

608
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: It's history, you know the video music box story. It's

609
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: about this parent who takes their kid back to the hood,

610
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: shows them where he grew up at, takes him. The

611
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: Times Square said, this is where they used to do breakdancing.

612
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 4: At look, breakdancing is an Olympic sport in twenty twenty four,

613
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: which is amazing to me. This is all yeah that

614
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: we grew up watching and you know, and as you

615
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: get you know, responsibility of having a family and kids

616
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: and stuff.

617
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Speaker 3: You want your kids to kind of get a little

618
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 3: bit of what you did, you know, And that's what

619
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Speaker 3: this is about. This book is.

620
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: About and it sounds sounds like my life, taking my

621
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Speaker 1: girls back to where I came up from. And yeah,

622
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: I broke I would break dance in Times Square as well.

623
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know if a lot of people do

624
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: know that some of the top books in the country

625
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: and for the last I think fifteen years have been

626
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: coloring books and for adults as well, because and with

627
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: a fine pencil all the way to the to the crayons.

628
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: Because what it is is a form of meditation, and

629
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: we are now too much in the digital age where

630
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: this is not meditating, right, Because I want people to

631
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: really realize that you zone out and when the hand

632
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: moves with the mind, there's a different form, right of connectivity.

633
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: And then of course you lay out this beauty and

634
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and it is a form of meditation

635
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: and kids learn much quicker.

636
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: And even if you look at the data and the stats,

637
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of you.

638
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: But there's something like out of one hundred people, only

639
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: something like thirty percent.

640
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: Of them.

641
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: Know their goals in life, and one third of them

642
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: write their goals down. And the stats is shown that

643
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: out of the successful people in life, ninety percent of

644
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: those people end up working for the percentage of the

645
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: people that wrote their goals down. So science has proven

646
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Speaker 1: it and I am not qualified to speak about it

647
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: from that level, but you can anybody who's interested to

648
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: research that this is a way that people learn and

649
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: are more productive because when the mind and the hand

650
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: are moving together, there's some level of connectivity. So absolutely

651
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: thank you for that. Now, where can they get the book?

652
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: They can get it online.

653
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: They can get at my my my website, video music

654
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: box dot com, or you can get it at Taska

655
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: Books which is I T A S C A B

656
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: O O K S. You can you can put it

657
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: up on one of your pages and uh, it's it's

658
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: an amazing you know, you said something when you were

659
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: talking and I was like, yo, I think we need

660
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: to do a collaboration of partnership with Crayola or.

661
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: One of those Crayon companies. That's what we need.

662
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well you know, I got no problem making

663
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: that call for you. I want to highlight the book

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Speaker 1: on my social media for sure, you know, while while

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Speaker 1: people are now listening to us, and I know I

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Speaker 1: want to bring into a close because I have I

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Speaker 1: know you, you have a you're you're actually at ABC

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Speaker 1: Studios right now.

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Speaker 3: No, actually, I know, Damon John his picture should be

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Speaker 3: on the wall and.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, you know, you've done so much for us.

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't even I mean, you know, to

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Speaker 1: speak so much about what you've done is very is

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Speaker 1: very challenging. People don't realize that if you really think

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Speaker 1: about most of the visual aspects of hip hop, they

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Speaker 1: you know you you directed videos such as Cream. I mean,

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Speaker 1: my buddy Hype Williams was an intern for you and

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Speaker 1: so many different things. When when you think about the

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Speaker 1: music artists today and anybody who is a creative today,

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Speaker 1: not even a music art just creative today, is there

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Speaker 1: a commonality that you have seen because of whether it

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Speaker 1: is Jay Z fifty cents, Queen Latifa, when you found

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Speaker 1: the little Foobu, guys is there a commonality that you

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Speaker 1: see in creatives?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you were focused, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean when I first met you, you were nervous,

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Speaker 4: but you were what you back to it was your focus,

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Speaker 4: you know, like let me just go with what I

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Speaker 4: know and not try to make something up. You know

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Speaker 4: that you exaggerated a little bit now first interview, but.

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Speaker 3: Not a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, not a lot.

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Speaker 1: I just said, you know, when we're in a couple,

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Speaker 1: we in Paris because my cousin.

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Speaker 2: Pooki lived in Parish, so I mailed him with shirt

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Speaker 2: we was in Paris.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you were focused.

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Speaker 4: And that's the commonality, is that, like you may not

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Speaker 4: know how the whole were at that age, you know,

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Speaker 4: and young people they may not know how the.

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Speaker 3: World works, how corporate work, how corporate talk is and

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Speaker 3: all that.

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Speaker 4: But I know that this is going to work if

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Speaker 4: you guys put me in this position and then I'm

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Speaker 4: going to go to the next thing, and I'm going

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Speaker 4: to go to the next thing and hopefully that'll work

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Speaker 4: as well. And so the same thing that you said,

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Speaker 4: is what Jay said, is what nad said, is what

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Speaker 4: fifty said, is what you know Nicki Minaj said, you

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Speaker 4: know all of these people, you know, all were like,

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Speaker 4: I just need to get to to that block and

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Speaker 4: then I'll be all right.

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Speaker 3: I can I can hold my own with some help,

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Speaker 3: with the little help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you just you just sum in such

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Speaker 1: an eloquent way what entrepreneurship is. Because we grew up

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Speaker 1: in this world. We thought these entrepreneurs are supposed to

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Speaker 1: be more bosses, are supposed to be big people who

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Speaker 1: are not vulnerable. But there really are people who and

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Speaker 1: they walk in the room, they go.

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Speaker 2: I know this. I mean, I know the rest of

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Speaker 2: the world. I know this. How can I be of

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Speaker 2: value to you?

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Speaker 1: Because you already said, man, make them feel comfort, make

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Speaker 1: other people feel comfortable, right about about that? And then

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Speaker 1: if you get me here, work together, or however we

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Speaker 1: do this. All I know is if I like to block,

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Speaker 1: if I concentrate on this, this is gonna work and

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Speaker 1: then hopefully I'll learn more.

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Speaker 2: And that sums up entrepreneurship.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got to help people.

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Speaker 4: Help you, you know, you give them the information and

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Speaker 4: sometimes it's scary, you know, like not everybody is nice.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you can tell some horror stories. Yeah, Nope,

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Speaker 4: everybody's not nice. And you and you might, you know,

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Speaker 4: run into one of those not nice people, but that's okay,

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Speaker 4: you keep on going.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, man, because it was the moment

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Speaker 1: that you were nice to me, and ever since then

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Speaker 1: you've been nice to me and to so many people

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Speaker 1: that that we know as global brands and and and

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Speaker 1: that are changing the world or inspying the world.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the book, man, I look forward to it.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you and doing more with

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Speaker 1: you in the public library.

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Speaker 2: And congratulations on having.

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Speaker 1: This, this catalog of things that everybody from brands to

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Speaker 1: movies to producers to music artists can go and obviously

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Speaker 1: rent or do things with and use and it goes

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Speaker 1: to a foundation and good use.

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Speaker 2: And uh and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we gotta we gotta check out you know,

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Speaker 1: Roscoe learns about Video Music Box and check you out

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Speaker 1: on show time and check you out on Video Music Box.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ralph. I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love what you've done and continue to do for us,

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Speaker 1: And thank you for inspiring us and for all those

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Speaker 1: out there who are the Ralph me Gansboro and we

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Speaker 1: may not know of now, but you're doing God's work.

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Speaker 2: Thank you man, Thank you, bro.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me thanks for the.

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Speaker 2: Team, all right, Pete.

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Speaker 1: That Moment with Damon John is a production of the

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Speaker 1: social media platforms.

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Speaker 2: At the Shark, Damon spelled like Raymond, but what a

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Speaker 2: d