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Speaker 1: It would destroy our standard of living, It would destroy

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Speaker 1: Congressman Chris Stewart, Republican from Utah, member of the House

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Speaker 1: Where's the most interesting place you've been rock climbing? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's obviously Zay National Park in my home district out

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Speaker 1: US China trade policy and twenty chatter. I'm Kevin Cilli.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Seilli, Bloomberg News Chief Washington, correspondent for Bloomberg Television

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Speaker 1: and Bloomberg Radio. Kevin Walling is a democratic strategist, also

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Speaker 1: works at HG Creative, a political consulting firm, and Lawren

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Speaker 1: zelt is a Republican strategist and as the founder of

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Speaker 1: Zeltz Communications. She's also the former deputy communications director for

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Speaker 1: Senator Kelly A. Yacht and the former director of media

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Speaker 1: affairs for the Romney Ryan presidential campaign UH and also

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Speaker 1: has worked at the RNC. Thank you both for joining

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Speaker 1: for the hour. We just heard from Congressman UH Chris Stewart,

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Speaker 1: the Congress into the American people. One one, a little

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Speaker 1: You saw him bringing in suitcases of documents and materials

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Speaker 1: for two years and the fact that now we're finally

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Speaker 1: getting some answers from Mr Cohen and from this administration. keV,

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Speaker 1: you know who disagrees with you? Everybody, White House Press Secretary.

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Speaker 1: Let's roll the tape, let's hear. Here's bring on Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Sarah Sanders had to say earlier today at

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Speaker 1: gonna look for other wise to do that. So that's

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Speaker 1: Sarah Sanders she's saying. I mean, but seriously, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party. There's no fringe involved. It's it's the majority

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Speaker 1: are finally putting in place some accountability on this administration.

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Speaker 1: Every single day we're learning something new, whether it's security

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Speaker 1: background checks, whether it's Mr Cohen's testimony last week, whether

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Speaker 1: it's the breakdown and talks in Hanoi and the the

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Speaker 1: we are finally getting accountability of this administration is not

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Speaker 1: a fringe element. It is what the majority of the

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Speaker 1: to quote my friend, mentor and colleague, Tom Keene, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to rip up the script, Lauren. What is on

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Speaker 1: your radar that we haven't dove it dived, Dovin dived,

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Speaker 1: And his work on vaping too, he was a huge

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Speaker 1: You dump it on a Friday. And Chris Stewart, the congressman,

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