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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, November twenty eight, twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: Season thirteen, episode number eighty three. Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of The Break. I am Derek Eagleton and I'm joined
Speaker 1: by the normal cast. Here. We are talking Cowboys football
Speaker 1: he guys for about an hour, and we are going
Speaker 1: to get into a little deeper talk today about the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. Cowboys face the Redskins Thursday night. It is
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football this week for you guys paying attention
Speaker 1: at home. So we'll talk about both their offense and
Speaker 1: their defense. Dave's gonna give us a scouting report on
Speaker 1: both today. We're gonna go to Amber and Nick and
Speaker 1: they'll tell us what they think is most alarming or
Speaker 1: interesting or just something that they're keeping an eye on
Speaker 1: with regards to those two units. But first we got
Speaker 1: to start by talking a little bit about some injuries,
Speaker 1: some injury updates, and some players that misspractice yesterday and
Speaker 1: what we expect from them. This is like a Friday.
Speaker 1: This is like a Friday for the team. This is
Speaker 1: a Friday for the team. No, yes, yes, this is
Speaker 1: a Friday. It's a Friday for the team. Can't keep it.
Speaker 1: We're coming on a show tomorrow. We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: show tomorrow and then Friday Friday, all of you guys
Speaker 1: are gonna be off. We're gonna send you guys away.
Speaker 1: I won't be no talk for on Friday. Sorry, but
Speaker 1: I'll take that on Thursday. So most gowboys on Friday
Speaker 1: sho game. Well, you can't just do it before the game.
Speaker 1: Why would you tape a show before the game if
Speaker 1: it's gonna run on TV? Say Derek, say what you
Speaker 1: want to say. Say it, Say what you want to say.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say what I want to say. It's
Speaker 1: all right, you know what I want to say. I'll
Speaker 1: be here for What a horrible song is that? There
Speaker 1: is a son mayor say what you need to say.
Speaker 1: It's not a horrible Yes, it is pretty good. Any
Speaker 1: song where you have say the same lyric forty seven
Speaker 1: thousand times in a row. It's catchy, can't What do
Speaker 1: you think? I don't even know the song, so I
Speaker 1: like a simple song every now and then. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do the fans know that we've fallen? I'm going is
Speaker 1: a musician like the previous life, he actually traveled the
Speaker 1: world singing and playing. I feel like at hit Yeah
Speaker 1: top forty right, kit Yeah are a one since day one,
Speaker 1: like the real crazy not crazy, but like the real
Speaker 1: passionate fans who like really keep up with everything they
Speaker 1: know they know. Yeah, I don't think that's a widely
Speaker 1: known thing though. Forever the Sickest Kids. That's the name
Speaker 1: of the band, right, yep, pretty damn good. You're on
Speaker 1: the Warped tour, toured the world, sold out arenas. One day,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have story time with Kent and we're gonna
Speaker 1: have him tell us his craziest story from the road.
Speaker 1: He has to have that after dark. It has to
Speaker 1: be a late night show. Hey, have you not heard
Speaker 1: some of the stories that Nick tells. I think we
Speaker 1: could probably get away with it and Amber's mouth on
Speaker 1: this show. I mean, I think we could probably get
Speaker 1: away with it. True. Yeah, oh cool, So we're off Friday. Okay, cool?
Speaker 1: Moving on, all right, Yeah, it's gonna say Ken, we're
Speaker 1: talking about a guy, you know, in a band, like
Speaker 1: in a world tour. That's probably some good stuff, right,
Speaker 1: depends on your definition of good. This is Kent's nightmare,
Speaker 1: right it is. He's probably sitting over there one one.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to injury talk. Um start first,
Speaker 1: I guess there were four guys from the Cowboys who
Speaker 1: did not practice yesterday, Lele Collins, Justin Durant, Anthony Hitchins,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. Uh tell me about which ones are most
Speaker 1: concerning or which ones you think are just symptomatic of
Speaker 1: just giving a guy a little time off. Well, Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones said this morning on the radio, you know It's
Speaker 1: weekly radio interview, that they hope that they'll have Sean
Speaker 1: Lee back soon, but he doesn't. He doesn't know when
Speaker 1: soon is and hope hopefully it's soon, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: know what that means. So so probably that this week
Speaker 1: come down doesn't sound like a guy who's ready to
Speaker 1: play in forty eight hours. Tell you that, um, so,
Speaker 1: I mean you think about it that it's you think
Speaker 1: of it in terms of games, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: he only missed two games against when he was out
Speaker 1: the first time. You forget there was a bye week
Speaker 1: thrown in there as well, like a full week and
Speaker 1: a weekend off, where so that's an added nine days
Speaker 1: where you're not really in the weekly grind. So this
Speaker 1: will be his third full absence since he injured the
Speaker 1: hamstring in Atlanta. But that's only twelve days. So the
Speaker 1: wonkiness of the schedule right now really kind of messes
Speaker 1: with him. Like if this had happened at a different
Speaker 1: time in the season, I think it would have been
Speaker 1: better for him. But that's neither here nor there, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like he's going to be there Thursday.
Speaker 1: We all know what that tends to mean for the defense.
Speaker 1: I don't have a good read on the Hitchins situation.
Speaker 1: It's growing injury, it's it's well, yeah, it's it's related.
Speaker 1: I mean, he played through it, so there's every possibility
Speaker 1: that he could get himself up for it. I don't
Speaker 1: know the fact that it's not a short week, but
Speaker 1: it's not the long week that you typically get after
Speaker 1: a Thursday game, So I don't know. We'll see what
Speaker 1: he does today, that could be really telling. Durant's a concussion,
Speaker 1: and you know typically with that you're either like good
Speaker 1: to go or you're gonna miss again. Like for instance,
Speaker 1: Zach Martin had the same thing and he was back
Speaker 1: at practice already. Right, it seems like a good bet
Speaker 1: that he'll be available Thursday. But I don't know about
Speaker 1: Duran The interesting with a concussion. It seems like, again,
Speaker 1: none of these things are the same. But it seems
Speaker 1: like when you get to what would be a Friday
Speaker 1: or at least what will be a Thursday, and the
Speaker 1: guy still has not practice with a concussion, that doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like it's a It's great that it seems like
Speaker 1: there's like that's kind of what I meant is not
Speaker 1: good to go, But like you go through the protocol
Speaker 1: and it's like okay, like you're fine, You're you're cognitively
Speaker 1: you're good. It seems like you kind of missed a
Speaker 1: bullet here. And Zach Martin was he was limited, but
Speaker 1: he was out there doing stuff. Yes, because it's either
Speaker 1: all or none. You're not just gonna be right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they I mean, if you're not doing anything two
Speaker 1: days into the practice week, that tells me like, all right,
Speaker 1: calm down. You don't need to be out there doing
Speaker 1: you know, over exerting yourself like that. You need some time.
Speaker 1: But also when you think about what needs to happen
Speaker 1: with the roster and a linebacker, like if you're not
Speaker 1: gonna have Durant, you're not gonna have Sean Lee and
Speaker 1: Hitchens is banged up, you know, what are you? What
Speaker 1: are you doing there? That's a really that's a good point.
Speaker 1: And the fact that they haven't added a linebacker this
Speaker 1: week maybe says that they they hope one of those
Speaker 1: guys can play. Yeah, but I'm still thinking this could
Speaker 1: be the most we've seen from like Justin marsh Lillard
Speaker 1: so far this year. Well, the other thing to consider
Speaker 1: here is you are playing a team that probably and
Speaker 1: we'll get into this when we start talking about the
Speaker 1: way you match up against this team, but this is
Speaker 1: a team that throws the ball a ton, especially now
Speaker 1: that their best running back is gone for the year.
Speaker 1: Ah But is that I mean, is that the case there?
Speaker 1: I don't know, And that's what we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: when we start talking about the Redskins breakdown. But their
Speaker 1: best running back is gone. But now, like I think,
Speaker 1: and it's only one game, but it looks like they
Speaker 1: maybe adapted their style of play to fit what they
Speaker 1: have because I know it a minute. Wait wait wait,
Speaker 1: wait wait, you have an injury, you stick to the plan.
Speaker 1: You don't adapt to another game plan. You don't do
Speaker 1: that because no one does that. Nonsense, Dave Sing, I know, Nick, well,
Speaker 1: listen to you know what the hold on before we
Speaker 1: get right into what the Redskins are doing? Are we
Speaker 1: into that right now? I mean yeah, you just just
Speaker 1: want to send too what happened yesterday when you when
Speaker 1: listen to the coordinators both of them, Scott Scott Nahan
Speaker 1: and Rod Marinelli said the same thing and that you know,
Speaker 1: you do what you do. And I think the quote
Speaker 1: from from Lenahan was, you know, we're the same team
Speaker 1: that we were when we won three games in a
Speaker 1: row of back just a few a month ago, which
Speaker 1: is not true, but he said, you know, you just
Speaker 1: want to do what you do and you just keep
Speaker 1: doing it hard, hard, do it better, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: just keep practicing and all these things. And it's like
Speaker 1: that's to me, that's the problem here, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: You can't just keep doing what you do and say
Speaker 1: we're the same team we were three weeks ago, because
Speaker 1: you're not. Thing is it sounds good and it's certainly
Speaker 1: if you can. Ever, if you can actually get to
Speaker 1: that point, then yeah, now you've hit the holy grail
Speaker 1: of how you handle injuries in the NFL. The problem is,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't make sense when you think about it.
Speaker 1: If you could do, if you could be the same
Speaker 1: team you work when you were on that three game
Speaker 1: win streak, then there's no way to do I let
Speaker 1: me say like this, there's no way to do that
Speaker 1: in today's construct of the NFL, where your depth is
Speaker 1: going to be affected because you can't because of the
Speaker 1: amount of money that's on the cap. You cannot have
Speaker 1: players at every position and have depth at every position
Speaker 1: to be able to absorb all those injuries. Can't. Alabama
Speaker 1: can do that because they just pull up the next
Speaker 1: five star recruit. But in the NFL, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's what I wrote in my column. This isn't just
Speaker 1: like Trent Green going down and Kurt Warner comes in
Speaker 1: and you know, a made for Hollywood slash Canton story.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen like that all the time. It's very
Speaker 1: rare that an injury goes, you know, happens, and then
Speaker 1: guy just comes in and says, Romo, Deck Prescott, that's rare.
Speaker 1: That's really rare, And people don't realize how rare it
Speaker 1: is because of the way they're talking about Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: this year, with the struggles that he's head and I
Speaker 1: thought about that yesterday too, which that kind of tends
Speaker 1: to get glossed over. But this team did, you know,
Speaker 1: adapt really well to a major injury last year in
Speaker 1: the form of Dak Prescott, And I'm sure that must
Speaker 1: weigh heavily in their minds that, hey, this has worked
Speaker 1: before like this. The whole reason people have high expectations
Speaker 1: for us is because we handled this type of adversity
Speaker 1: the right way before. So there's that line of thinking.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I completely agree with it, but like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that line of thinking is there and I
Speaker 1: follow it at least. Although the difference is, if you
Speaker 1: want to go back to last year, they did adapt,
Speaker 1: Like they didn't do the same thing with Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: that they would have done with Tony Romo. But they didn't,
Speaker 1: and so they did have to change things up. They ran,
Speaker 1: they ran some zone reads last year that they were
Speaker 1: not going to run with Tony Romo out there, so
Speaker 1: they did adapt, they did change. Huh Tony Romo is
Speaker 1: a readoption king how right? Yeah, maybe in year three
Speaker 1: of his care But I'm just saying noo. I just
Speaker 1: think they did adapt last year, and and again, I
Speaker 1: just I think some of this as tends to be
Speaker 1: the case in the NFL. I think some of this
Speaker 1: is probably overblown a little bit by us. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the media, because there is kind of this all
Speaker 1: or nothing. They probably did make some changes, they probably
Speaker 1: did adapt some things, But you're right, Nick, just the
Speaker 1: overall mindset of we're just gonna throw the next guy
Speaker 1: in there and we're gonna keep doing what we're doing.
Speaker 1: That just doesn't when you hear it. When you I mean,
Speaker 1: when you're waiting to hear Scott Linehan talk about this
Speaker 1: whole situation, you expect to hear something hopeful and something
Speaker 1: that okay, at least you know they're going the right way,
Speaker 1: and it gives you some hope and some of the
Speaker 1: changes they're doing. But one of the things he did
Speaker 1: say yesterday was kind of like, all right, well, we
Speaker 1: focus on the things we are doing well instead of
Speaker 1: the things that we're doing wrong or bad. It's like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: what are those things that you are doing well? Not many?
Speaker 1: So how can you be folks? You're seeing on that
Speaker 1: on the positive when the negative is overcoming the positive.
Speaker 1: And he said, third down third down conversions is something
Speaker 1: we're doing well. Okay, but the problem is is you're
Speaker 1: not doing anything on first and second down, so everything
Speaker 1: is a third down. I mean like the Chargers didn't
Speaker 1: have many third downs because they just kept moving it
Speaker 1: up and down the field. First down, first down, first down,
Speaker 1: first down. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought that was odd
Speaker 1: too that he said that because you're five and six
Speaker 1: and you've lost three in a row, like there's obviously
Speaker 1: more bad things happening than the good. I don't understand
Speaker 1: that mindset of where we're gonna try to fix. We're
Speaker 1: gonna just just keep doing I mean, what does that mean.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that And I tried to
Speaker 1: articulate that yesterday too, though, is like if you admit it,
Speaker 1: then it's a and then it's like this problem and
Speaker 1: it's a problem. Yeah, and then you know they know
Speaker 1: this stuff, they're not gonna say it to you. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna go make like wholesale chain.
Speaker 1: They're not going to do that. But they're just like
Speaker 1: they're they don't want to put it out there that
Speaker 1: they agree with you about that stuff, because guess what,
Speaker 1: then you got a big headline saying Lenahan Colin. Yeahs.
Speaker 1: At least you want to feel like you're on the
Speaker 1: same page, that everyone is on the same page, although
Speaker 1: you know they know obviously they know everything that's going on.
Speaker 1: But I will obvious say this though, Ambert, like all
Speaker 1: of you guys, all three of you guys, spend time
Speaker 1: in that locker room and you talk to you guys
Speaker 1: off the record. That's where you hear the real right,
Speaker 1: So that's where you get to find out, you know,
Speaker 1: if if they if they don't believe things are going right,
Speaker 1: they're gonna say it, they just won't say it in
Speaker 1: front of the cameras. And so you know, I think
Speaker 1: they I think I agree with Dave. They know, they
Speaker 1: just don't want to put it out there publicly like that.
Speaker 1: But guarantee, in these meetings this week, they're probably talking
Speaker 1: about those things that they don't do so well and
Speaker 1: saying how do we improve this and what do we
Speaker 1: need to do differently? And I mean that's a part
Speaker 1: of being a coach, and that's I mean, we'll see
Speaker 1: what it means for the offense. But like they're they're
Speaker 1: benching dudes and shuffling dudes in the secondary, so like
Speaker 1: they can say all they want about how to stay
Speaker 1: the course, Like that's not true if they're benching people
Speaker 1: and shuffling things. So I think they know and they
Speaker 1: go about it their own way. They don't want to
Speaker 1: admit it publicly or like put that out into the universe.
Speaker 1: So why not make a change it running back? Then?
Speaker 1: Why didn't they do that? I don't know, because they
Speaker 1: probably feel like right now, they don't. They probably feel
Speaker 1: like the running back. They probably feel like the running
Speaker 1: back position is one of the lesser of their concerns
Speaker 1: and may feel like making a change there doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: give you an appreciably better result, you know, Like right now,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Running game is horrible. I think
Speaker 1: the Running Game has been okay. I think the Running
Speaker 1: Game is the only thing that hasn't been horrible. But
Speaker 1: and the difference is this is the irony of the
Speaker 1: whole situation. The running game has to be great in
Speaker 1: order for everything else to work. That's the problem. But
Speaker 1: you don't have another guy to roll in here. That's
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, right, So you're not going to improve that
Speaker 1: to make it great until Zeke comes back. Right now.
Speaker 1: You just have to deal with what you have to
Speaker 1: deal with. So getting an okay running game is what
Speaker 1: you're gonna have. Can you fill in with all those
Speaker 1: other things that you're saying. Zeke's in the running game
Speaker 1: is great, and a great running game makes everything else
Speaker 1: pretty good. But when he's not in, then it's just
Speaker 1: an average running game, and an average running game makes
Speaker 1: everything else bad. Yes, that's why that's it works. I
Speaker 1: was at practice yesterday for what ten minutes and talking
Speaker 1: talking to a guy that I don't really talk to
Speaker 1: a whole lot about stuff going on in the field,
Speaker 1: and he said to me, you know what this team needs.
Speaker 1: This team needs more speed at receiver. And I was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they do, Yeah, you know, it's fill point. I was
Speaker 1: just like yesterday on the radio too. I was driving home.
Speaker 1: I was listening to this showing radio and there were
Speaker 1: a bunch of media types from Dallas that were on
Speaker 1: the air, and they went on for about twenty minutes
Speaker 1: on this team needs some speed receiver. And I was
Speaker 1: just like, Nick is just like sitting there, just like,
Speaker 1: come on, man, come on. I think I've been saying
Speaker 1: that everybody at Alexander, right, yeah, everybody sees it. They
Speaker 1: You guys don't even know who that is. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I remember the name played at Auburn. It was like
Speaker 1: nineteen Get him. He was drafted the same year as
Speaker 1: Emmett m How long he playing the league? Not three years?
Speaker 1: He was? Hey, he was on the reunion they had
Speaker 1: the other day of the nineteen ninety two. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't recognize his face. Yeah, yeah he was. He
Speaker 1: was the little guy out there. Eighty one played for
Speaker 1: three years. Huh. Yeah he wasn't He wasn't that special.
Speaker 1: But I mean he was a speed guy. You know.
Speaker 1: He was a guy drafted in the second round because
Speaker 1: he could run. He was a track guy. That's kind
Speaker 1: of what they need to just need somebody like that.
Speaker 1: But if they don't have that, and they're not gonna
Speaker 1: have it for a while, they need to at least
Speaker 1: use what they have, and I think use the field.
Speaker 1: We said it yesterday spread the field a little bit.
Speaker 1: I will say this, I'm starting to disagree with you
Speaker 1: just a little bit on that. I don't want just
Speaker 1: to speed guy. I actually want them to get a
Speaker 1: fast guy that actually can play receiver, like a oh
Speaker 1: a good fast gut Okay, So yeah, I actually want
Speaker 1: to I want to see him. I want to see them.
Speaker 1: I want to see them go out and get a
Speaker 1: stud wide receiver. That's fine. So you're saying the first round, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: no way, you don't. Not in not in today's NFL.
Speaker 1: I do third round, Jarvis Landry, third round, Juju Smith Schuster,
Speaker 1: your third rounds A Jones like, you don't have to
Speaker 1: go Antonio Brown, fifth or sixth round. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: an anomaly, obviously, it's not. That's an anomaly. That's not
Speaker 1: the best receivers in the game right now. The five
Speaker 1: Julio guys who first round Abe Abe, So he's in
Speaker 1: the Julio first round, Backham first round. Um. I thought
Speaker 1: going into the year of that Mike Evans would be
Speaker 1: in that group, but he the way that inconsistent. It
Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. You don't put keenan Allen in there.
Speaker 1: Third round. Here we go, third round. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just didn't know if you want to do made
Speaker 1: meet my words. Made said that, like before the game,
Speaker 1: you're like, this dude is about to happen the whole
Speaker 1: world day. And I mean he was good. I stand again,
Speaker 1: I stand by what I said, like like he's not
Speaker 1: the worst of the one receiver that they place. He's
Speaker 1: not as good as like Julio Jones. Yes, between those two. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I can't even focus on who they
Speaker 1: who's the best number ones that they've played? But he's
Speaker 1: not who is the best number one they've played. He's
Speaker 1: not in the top like three number ones that they've played.
Speaker 1: Probably if I had to think about it, we don't
Speaker 1: have to go there. Yeah, I have to go back,
Speaker 1: and he made me my words. I'm sorry. I know
Speaker 1: keenan Allen's list. Did he have the best day of
Speaker 1: a wide receiver the Cowboys a face this year? Yes?
Speaker 1: By far? Yeah, Okay, it's Josh Gordon in there. Best
Speaker 1: receivers Josh Gordon. We'll see he might come back and
Speaker 1: have a two hundred yard day. He does that. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you can find a stud receiver in the third round
Speaker 1: that's all I'm trying to say. Okay, go find them.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I'm not I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: just satisfied with saying, go and get a track guy.
Speaker 1: They may have deficiencies out there, go and get me
Speaker 1: a guy that can actually play the position. Because I
Speaker 1: think right now, one of the problems with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: receivers that you hear all the time is they're not
Speaker 1: great route runners. Well, throwing another guy out there in
Speaker 1: the mix is not a great route runner. He's a
Speaker 1: one trick pony that can just run a nine route.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that necessarily helps you in the Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think it all comes down to what happens
Speaker 1: with Dez. I mean, because if you have Dez on
Speaker 1: this team, then you could just need need a speed
Speaker 1: guys going anywhere. Okay, well you just need a speed guy.
Speaker 1: Then you just need a guy that can run, like
Speaker 1: Dave saying third round whatever, But you want that guy
Speaker 1: that can do everything. That's a difference maker, number one
Speaker 1: receiver with speed. Yeah, those guys usually go higher than
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are gonna pick. Yeah, I think I'm
Speaker 1: okay with that. Stefon Diggs and Adam Feeling are both
Speaker 1: late round guys, are they? I don't even know if
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling was drafted, Nah, he wasn't. Diggs was a
Speaker 1: fifth round Heeland is one of those kind of guys
Speaker 1: though that I think that you know, he just kind
Speaker 1: of fits his role really really well. Um. I mean, Diggs,
Speaker 1: what makes him special is you write the speed is
Speaker 1: what makes him special, Like he can get down, feel
Speaker 1: and get open and you just don't have any answer
Speaker 1: for it. But that kind of guy's also going to
Speaker 1: be inconsistent. Some games he's gonna have big players other
Speaker 1: games he's not. So you know that there was a
Speaker 1: speed guy drafted seventh overall, could do everything Pump return
Speaker 1: from the Rams Tavon Austin has not, hasn't done extremely
Speaker 1: and consistent. Yeah, gotta be careful with that. I mean
Speaker 1: there's cases for everything. But I just Cooper Cup third
Speaker 1: round pick is runner. Is he really fast? He's No,
Speaker 1: he's not, but it's a good receiver. Yeah he is.
Speaker 1: I mean he's a great route runner. He's got an
Speaker 1: awesome hands. He's not super fast, but it makes some
Speaker 1: really outstanding catches this year as he's awesome. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Just seemed like a white receiver
Speaker 1: right there. Just good hands, not a super fast, good
Speaker 1: route runner. Yeah, but he makes plays. He does, he
Speaker 1: makes plays. No, that's fine, That's definitely fine, Adam. I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys could use a guy like that. Doesn't matter, yep,
Speaker 1: just somebody that can make plays right now. And you
Speaker 1: know another thing that this team is lacking in. You know,
Speaker 1: Dak said it. I know we talked about this on
Speaker 1: the show, but I mean, just make some plays when
Speaker 1: when the balls in their hands, I mean, break a
Speaker 1: tackle or three every now and again. That's that's one thing.
Speaker 1: And Dak hasn't. I mean, Dez has not done that
Speaker 1: at all this year. You know they get the ball
Speaker 1: to does he hasn't. I bet you the guy that's
Speaker 1: got once in Arizona. It was a great play when
Speaker 1: he I mean he duke Peterson and like which bowled
Speaker 1: his way into the end zone. Feels like it happened
Speaker 1: about five years. Oh yeah, Frederick's touchdown. But that's the
Speaker 1: only one that's really surprising to me is DEAs Like
Speaker 1: those are guys those aren't. They aren't. That's not their game.
Speaker 1: But that is DES's game. That's what's the part that's
Speaker 1: surprising that needs some help. Those those kind of plays
Speaker 1: more as close as Days and Terrence are, or they
Speaker 1: seem to be on and off the field, they're not
Speaker 1: good together. They both need a different type of receiver
Speaker 1: on the other side. In my opinion, they both could be.
Speaker 1: You know, he just doesn't He needs a better number
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Speaker 1: second segment of the show, Live from the SWBC Mortgage studios.
Speaker 1: At the staff talking about Cowboys versus Redskins. Dave, let's
Speaker 1: do a shatter for these guys. All right, we'll take
Speaker 1: it real quick, especially because we've already played these guys,
Speaker 1: but have we? Yeah? I was actually like, back when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were playing really well we really What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is he really played them the same team we're
Speaker 1: about to face it well in so many ways, yes,
Speaker 1: because they're still dealing with all the same stuff they were,
Speaker 1: Like their offensive line is still a nightmare. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you saw the injury report yesterday, right, let
Speaker 1: me pull that. It had a lot of guys on.
Speaker 1: It's got a ton of guys, five linemen, but the
Speaker 1: injury report. Four of them are the starters, I believe,
Speaker 1: and then the backup tackle who's been backing up for Trent.
Speaker 1: Trent Williams is on. He's on the list all season long,
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be dealing with his knee, and he
Speaker 1: did not practice and did not play last week, did
Speaker 1: not play. Ty and Secki's his backup. He played left tackle.
Speaker 1: Brandon Sheriff's probably gonna play, but yeah, he's on the report.
Speaker 1: Chase rul Yer, Rule Yer probably h he's their backup center.
Speaker 1: Spencer longs out, so he's on the injury report as well.
Speaker 1: Morgan Moses has been dealing with an ankle since around
Speaker 1: the time the Cowboys played him. He's probably gonna play,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so your starting line is not in much
Speaker 1: better shape than it was the last time we saw them.
Speaker 1: Um Ari Quanjo is probably the guy that's gonna play
Speaker 1: left guard. They brought him in in the time since
Speaker 1: Tony Bergstrom is the center. If Rulier can't go so like,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're dealing with a lot of issues here.
Speaker 1: But also, like we alluded to, Chris Thompson is now
Speaker 1: on IR after he heard himself in New Orleans and
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. I think we all said
Speaker 1: at last game he was the guy that scared us
Speaker 1: most of that offense he was having I mean, like
Speaker 1: Lance Dunbar but way better. Like remember how Lance Dunbar
Speaker 1: was on pace for like one hundred catches or whatever,
Speaker 1: Like he was having that type of season, but he
Speaker 1: had sustained it for way longer. Um. But so here
Speaker 1: they come out. They remember they drafted some aj p
Speaker 1: Ryan at Ou, who's good running back, solid running back, solid,
Speaker 1: just workman like bulldozer guy, like doesn't really wow you
Speaker 1: with anything that he does, but he's just a solid
Speaker 1: all around guy. He had twenty like Alfred Morris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty four carries for one hundred yards. That I mean
Speaker 1: that hasn't been their style since Rob Kelly got hurt.
Speaker 1: Really and still the answer to a trivia question, no, no,
Speaker 1: because did he break Gordon's record the week after all? Right?
Speaker 1: Then yeah, as far as I know, he still has
Speaker 1: the records rushing yards in a game college football, which
Speaker 1: bums me out because Darius Guys has come really close
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Right, what's the record thirty six?
Speaker 1: Oh never mind, No, Darius Guys never came close to that,
Speaker 1: and like four hundred. I thought the record was like
Speaker 1: three twenty something. That's NFL. I don't know whatever. Darius
Speaker 1: Guys never played the NFL, not yet yet. He's on
Speaker 1: his way. He's coming. Um twenty four carries one hundred yards,
Speaker 1: like just much more straight, straight ahead, just running the ball, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they have, That's what they gotta do.
Speaker 1: Like Rob Kelly's hurt, Thompson's on ir he Ryan's like
Speaker 1: really their only viable running back left now. They gave
Speaker 1: up six sacks in this game to the Giants, like
Speaker 1: their offensive line is and probably will continue to be
Speaker 1: a problem. Jordan Reid was ruled out of last week's game,
Speaker 1: and he is also on the report with a hamstring,
Speaker 1: so Vernon Davis and Niles Paul are probably the guys
Speaker 1: you're looking at. I think that could be huge for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys just in the sense of that's one less
Speaker 1: tight end. I mean, they've done pretty well against Davis
Speaker 1: is not a bad tight hint up, Oh he's not.
Speaker 1: And he's he's having like a career renaissance up there.
Speaker 1: So like he's a guy to watch. But I like
Speaker 1: their odds of dealing with him a lot better if
Speaker 1: they don't also have to deal with Josh Reid or
Speaker 1: Josh Reid Jordan Reid. Josh Reid was an LSU wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Let's say I don't know that Josh with his work.
Speaker 1: Josh Docson, Yes, he's coming on, he's looking. He's looking
Speaker 1: like he's a guy that scares you if he gets
Speaker 1: a going, because he's a guy that can catch balls
Speaker 1: all over the place. He scares me because the cowboy
Speaker 1: secondary hasn't been that great at covering guys in the
Speaker 1: first place. But like he's he's making catches when he's
Speaker 1: well covered, So what can he do if he's not
Speaker 1: well covered? Um, he looks like a first round he
Speaker 1: looks like the first round pick that he was. And
Speaker 1: then if you're looking for like I think, and this
Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprising, but the way that they're replacing Chris Thompson,
Speaker 1: at least through one game, it looks like Jamison Crowder
Speaker 1: does even more of that. He had ten targets, seven receptions,
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty one yards in a touchdown. And
Speaker 1: he's fast, but like he's not the guy that you
Speaker 1: send down the field outside the numbers, like he does
Speaker 1: a lot of his stuff underneath a lot of crossing routes,
Speaker 1: a lot of bubble screens for the most part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and but he did. And when I think about the
Speaker 1: first game of the season, first game they played, when
Speaker 1: it like early in the game where he was streaking
Speaker 1: down the field and that was the first big like
Speaker 1: he did it last year. I want to say, I
Speaker 1: don't mean to say that he can't do it, like
Speaker 1: the stuff that scares me, Like if you remember the
Speaker 1: first game up there, he was the guy who just
Speaker 1: crossed the field from the slot and got just he
Speaker 1: just was behind everybody and was standing there in front
Speaker 1: of the safeties. It was like a forty one yard gain.
Speaker 1: I think he just got lost. And that's you know,
Speaker 1: Brian talks about it all the time, like just lose
Speaker 1: him in the trash, like he'll just cross the whole
Speaker 1: formation and like the guys trailing him get picked off
Speaker 1: by their own guys and all of a sudden nobody's
Speaker 1: covering him. Like, that's what scares me. And if he
Speaker 1: gets that kind of lead, he's fast enough where he'll
Speaker 1: turn it into a score. Yeah, and again samaj p
Speaker 1: Ryan's a good player, but he's not like a dynamic
Speaker 1: running back. He's not a pass catcher. So he did
Speaker 1: have three receptions for thirty yards, but he's not Chris Thompson,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. And I think they probably look
Speaker 1: at Crowder to fill that role or try to fill
Speaker 1: that role of you know, slot stuff, short passes, swing routes,
Speaker 1: wheel routes, crossing routes, all that type of stuff. So
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a lot of the same stuff.
Speaker 1: But the thing that I'm curious about is like I
Speaker 1: would imagine they're going to try to run the ball
Speaker 1: much more smash mouth with this, you know, current group
Speaker 1: of personnel defensively, Uh, well, we got to start with
Speaker 1: the injury report again, Like it's I'm it's unbelievable how
Speaker 1: many things these guys are dealing with. Martrell Spate is
Speaker 1: limited with an ankle. Um Monte Nicholson's starting safety, has
Speaker 1: a concussion and did not participate. Terrell McClean, our old
Speaker 1: friend toe did not participate. Yeah, yeah, that's different. Matt Aonidas,
Speaker 1: who is also he's another defensive Oh wow, that was Shade.
Speaker 1: Where'd you get your degree? That was Shade? Yeah? Right? What?
Speaker 1: Uh he played the first game, didn't he? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that he'd been a He had a pretty healthy season,
Speaker 1: is what I've been getting to. Matt Ionias, who has
Speaker 1: been really good for them on their defensive line, has
Speaker 1: handed ankle injuries. He was not as smooth as you'd
Speaker 1: think you are. I'm just saying I went right past it.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, oh, yeah, he's hurt, Derek, what's
Speaker 1: your problem? No, but like you were no problem, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just asked where you got your degree from? Zach Brown,
Speaker 1: their best line back is limited with shoulder and achilles injuries.
Speaker 1: Now a lot of these guys are limited on Monday,
Speaker 1: which is good signs for their availability, but clearly they're
Speaker 1: not at full strength. Of course, they got the guy
Speaker 1: back from the last game. They do have Josh Norman back,
Speaker 1: thank you. That matters. He will be playing in this game.
Speaker 1: He will be on the left side. Look, he doesn't
Speaker 1: he doesn't travel a lot. He can, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: do it a lot. But I would imagine he'll be
Speaker 1: ondaz a decent amount. Yeah. Um, DJ Sweringer, who like
Speaker 1: I've always been down. I've always thought of him as
Speaker 1: like he's like the guy that's always trying to lower
Speaker 1: the boom, and more often than not he misses. But
Speaker 1: he's got like three picks in the last three weeks
Speaker 1: or something like that. He's so he's playing well. And
Speaker 1: then you have Kerrigan and Preston Smith as your Russians,
Speaker 1: which is especially concerning since now both of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offensive tackles are gimpy right now. So I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: see what that means. But the Cowboys lineup on Sunday
Speaker 1: was Chads Green and Byron Bell, and I don't like
Speaker 1: that one bit. I can't Ryan Kerrigan and Preston that
Speaker 1: guy always plays well. Kerrigan, Yeah, he's a good play
Speaker 1: I mean he does it every week. Like you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I was, I was thinking about this to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense. You know how we saw the Chargers
Speaker 1: do it in the Redskins have done it where you know,
Speaker 1: just guys are just streaking across the field. You know,
Speaker 1: next thing you know, there's is wide open. Dallas never
Speaker 1: seems to do that, and I think it goes back
Speaker 1: once again for the ninety seventh time that when you
Speaker 1: have speed, you have guys that can I mean, you
Speaker 1: have guys that can open up that middle there when
Speaker 1: nobody's going forty yards down the field and not only
Speaker 1: going eighteen nineteen yards, then the middle's never opened, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's there's never this wide open space.
Speaker 1: So that's why I think that this team needs to
Speaker 1: use a little bit more of the field vertically to
Speaker 1: open up those things like that. And you got to
Speaker 1: have a good offensive line that can block long enough
Speaker 1: for that play to develop like that, but you just
Speaker 1: never seeing that they have enough room that way. Somebody's
Speaker 1: got to be taken it deep, right, don't you think
Speaker 1: part of that though? If you gotta have you gotta
Speaker 1: get open. And that seems to be what what I'm
Speaker 1: hearing more often than not as one of the big
Speaker 1: problems is even if you got a guy going deep,
Speaker 1: if he never can shake loosely anyone and if there's
Speaker 1: never a guy that's actually open, it depends if he
Speaker 1: takes the safety with him. That's the key. Does he
Speaker 1: take a safe I'm saying, even if even if he
Speaker 1: takes the safety with him. If you got guys underneath
Speaker 1: it were in man coverage and they can't get open,
Speaker 1: then are you still in the same position. Well, that's
Speaker 1: that's the point. If if say Bryce Butler has got
Speaker 1: to step on his corner and the safety has to
Speaker 1: go back with them. So there's two guys now forty
Speaker 1: yards down the field, and you're blocking pretty well up front,
Speaker 1: and you've got a quarterback that can buy a time.
Speaker 1: I would think any receiver in the NFL could probably
Speaker 1: get open. I mean, can figure out a way to
Speaker 1: find the open man. Anybody can get open if you
Speaker 1: give him six seconds, That's what I'm saying. But they
Speaker 1: don't have that much room because the routes aren't going deep. Whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. What do y'all think about Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: I like him. I think he's a good quarterback. I
Speaker 1: think he is. I think if Washington lets him walk
Speaker 1: out of the door this next offseason without giving him
Speaker 1: a new contract, I think it's a dumb move. I
Speaker 1: think I agree with you like I have. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not the best quarterback in the league, but I
Speaker 1: think he's about as good as you can reasonably expect
Speaker 1: to find again, Like you know, you're you're not just
Speaker 1: gonna find a guy as good as him if you
Speaker 1: let him go. He's good enough. He's good enough that
Speaker 1: if you give him the right parts, you can have
Speaker 1: yourself a team that can compete. And that's the whole
Speaker 1: point of the NFL. You've got to have a quarterback
Speaker 1: that's good enough to give you a chance to compete.
Speaker 1: He's good enough. He's certainly good enough. Sixty six percent
Speaker 1: on the year and three thousand yards already with another
Speaker 1: month to play, nineteen touchdowns, six picks. I think he's
Speaker 1: really good. I mean, yeah, he could use some help,
Speaker 1: and he's good for like a bone headed mistake or
Speaker 1: two now and then, especially like from Traffa do too much,
Speaker 1: Like he's not he's not on the Rodgers level. But
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good quarterback. And it's crazy,
Speaker 1: like a report came out after they beat the Giants
Speaker 1: that the Redskins want to see more and he even said,
Speaker 1: he was like, if you want to, Okay, Like I'd
Speaker 1: like to think I've got a big enough body of
Speaker 1: work that five more games isn't really going to make
Speaker 1: that much of a difference. But Okay, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: because for him, when they don't franchise him this year,
Speaker 1: if they don't offer him the right contract, there will
Speaker 1: be I know, there will be a list of teams
Speaker 1: that will be lining up for his services because they
Speaker 1: will see the fact that he is certainly good enough
Speaker 1: to win in this league. I would hire him as
Speaker 1: if I needed a quarter the quarterback I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of, like where he could go now that San
Speaker 1: Francisco is no longer an option, well that the Denver
Speaker 1: they could be. Just because San Francisco getting Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: doesn't mean is it is this deal up after this
Speaker 1: year next year Jimmy Roppolo, Ya, it's up soon. And
Speaker 1: I you know, like people are like, hey, san Francisco
Speaker 1: could try to trade him to somebody else just because
Speaker 1: they have him now, like whatever. So San Francisco Miami
Speaker 1: denvers an option for Jacksonville. So there's teams out there
Speaker 1: that are looking for quarterbacks that'd be very happy to have.
Speaker 1: I think it would be awesome if he left the division.
Speaker 1: That great for the Cowboy Yeah, absolutely, because then then
Speaker 1: what is Whington hive? Though he's one in five against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and that's I mean, it's not for lack
Speaker 1: of trying, Like we can pull up his stats in
Speaker 1: those games. I mean, he's a good quarterback and I
Speaker 1: would prefer if the Redskins didn't have one. He's a
Speaker 1: good quarterback. But the problem is is that people want
Speaker 1: the elite quarterbacks. You know, when Romo was probably almost
Speaker 1: entire career, he was probably five to ten in the
Speaker 1: opending on what year he was at. Yeah, but always
Speaker 1: like right there. He just never was the elite. And
Speaker 1: there's not thirty two elite quarterbacks, and so Cousins that's
Speaker 1: where Cousins is. And I don't think Cousins is five
Speaker 1: to ten, but I think Cousins is probably ten to fifteen.
Speaker 1: And but that's fine though, I mean there's always there's
Speaker 1: always guys like that. I mean, like it's just kind
Speaker 1: of frustrating for a team because it's like somebody like Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: like he's your guy, you paid him, he's your guy,
Speaker 1: but he's just not that good. Yeah. But I'll say
Speaker 1: this kind of in the same boat. I mean, Stafford's
Speaker 1: really good. It puts up a lot of stats, but
Speaker 1: he's good for a bonehead player, you know, one or
Speaker 1: two a game. But you're describing Romo. That's fine, and
Speaker 1: I think I think that's the point. Though, you're stuck
Speaker 1: with them, That's what I'm saying. You're stuck with them
Speaker 1: because you have to sign him. You're stuck with that
Speaker 1: quarterback for a while. And he's not gonna be Brady
Speaker 1: Rogers or Breeze. But that's the problem. That's the best
Speaker 1: you're going to do. You're not gonna get Brady. If
Speaker 1: you're waiting for Brady Rogers or Breeze to show up
Speaker 1: in your building, then you're probably gonna be waiting for
Speaker 1: very very same thing Romo did. Romo was always good
Speaker 1: enough to get you eight and eight or better. And
Speaker 1: so you're not picking where the Eagles were to get wins.
Speaker 1: You're not able to do that. Son. Then at that
Speaker 1: point you have to surround them with the right talent
Speaker 1: in order to make use their skills. But they can't
Speaker 1: be just it can't be Guessler. To be fair, the
Speaker 1: Eagles picked like fourteenth that year. They did drastic things
Speaker 1: to get up there and get him. But yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but you know what, though, like I think, like like
Speaker 1: Derek said, like that's as good as you can hope
Speaker 1: for at the end of the day. As amazing as
Speaker 1: they are, Rogers and Breeze have won one Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and they did that with the help of, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: those were great supporting casts. He had, like Charles Woodson
Speaker 1: on his defense, and they weren't great, and you know,
Speaker 1: Breeze had the benefit of a defense that forced like
Speaker 1: thirty six takeaways that year. And they've struggled to get
Speaker 1: back there ever since. And and this year is the
Speaker 1: year that they are doing well, but it's their defense
Speaker 1: is back to playing like he was playing that year.
Speaker 1: And the last time they were good before this, their
Speaker 1: defense when they had Rob Ryan, their defense was second
Speaker 1: in the league, magically, and then it fell off a cliff.
Speaker 1: I just I've never really just thought he was that good.
Speaker 1: And I think it goes back to this one game
Speaker 1: that they played. I forgot what year. The Garson went
Speaker 1: nuts on him from you know, and it was the
Speaker 1: end of the game and he was fourth and ten
Speaker 1: and he just, you know, he's getting rushed and this
Speaker 1: is it. It's like, you're down by three, you gotta
Speaker 1: go win the game. He throws it out of bounce
Speaker 1: because you know, he saved the sack it's fourth and ten. Yeah, God,
Speaker 1: boys took over kneeled the ball three times when we
Speaker 1: got out of there. I think that happened sometimes, though,
Speaker 1: when you have a young quarterback, young quarterbacks make young
Speaker 1: quarterback decision. I know, well you say that, but I mean,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect a senior in college to do that. No,
Speaker 1: But I do think though, when you're playing in the
Speaker 1: NFL and you're dealing with the NFL pass rush and
Speaker 1: the speed of the NFL, sometimes you make decisions when
Speaker 1: you're young because you're trying to get You're frantically trying
Speaker 1: to I can see the Redskins frustration of wanting a
Speaker 1: little better than that you're getting just not there is
Speaker 1: what it is. Yet you can do that with a
Speaker 1: small sample size across the board, though, Like I didn't
Speaker 1: even work here at the time. Y'all probably think I did,
Speaker 1: But I watched the season ending lost to the Redskins
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. I watched on TV. I had no
Speaker 1: idea I was ever going to work here, and the
Speaker 1: pick that Romo threw on that wheel route to basically
Speaker 1: in the game, I was just like, yeah, it happens.
Speaker 1: The worst thing I've ever seen in my life, Like
Speaker 1: how that happened? You know, And then you form your
Speaker 1: opinion of a guy based on that one play rather
Speaker 1: than like a decade worth of work. You're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he sucks, I get white out. His fans don't like him. Right.
Speaker 1: Then you get here and you cover him and you
Speaker 1: see him do all I mean twenty fourteen, and you
Speaker 1: see all the plays, not just that one play that
Speaker 1: was on high that was on Sports Center, right, and
Speaker 1: it's and once you get an appreciation for all that
Speaker 1: they do, then it's like you're a much better quarterback
Speaker 1: to people getting you know. And the thing about Romo
Speaker 1: is last year he wasn't really getting that appreciation because
Speaker 1: you know, Dad jumped in and did all these great things,
Speaker 1: and it's like, see, you know, Romo was the problem.
Speaker 1: Now as you see it this year, you're like, I
Speaker 1: mean it's a little bit fifty fifty. I mean the
Speaker 1: things that Dak is doing, Romo couldn't do. He couldn't run,
Speaker 1: you know, he couldn't take some of those hits that
Speaker 1: in the Atlantic game. But I'm writing a column about
Speaker 1: that right now. I can't wait to read it. Kind
Speaker 1: of like the you don't know what you have till
Speaker 1: it's gone slash. Not only that, but like appreciate what
Speaker 1: you have at the same like, I'm terrified that people
Speaker 1: are going to start doing the same thing to Dak
Speaker 1: that they did to Romo and that, like and it's
Speaker 1: a career full of people just bashing you for really,
Speaker 1: like my opinion, know no reason. Learn your lesson from
Speaker 1: the first time. Basically is what I'm trying to say.
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Speaker 1: not the Tennessee j See head coach. I didn't realize
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Speaker 1: planning a coach right now. No, this week not a
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Speaker 1: weird season, guys, It's been a real weird season. Jason
Speaker 1: wappens like that sometimes. Jason Witten was like he looked
Speaker 1: just as surprised as me. He was like, wait what
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Speaker 1: not get a lot of it. Because that story was.
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Speaker 1: about it. I knew about that at eight o'clock yesterday morning.
Speaker 1: I don't think Jason Witten learned about it until like
Speaker 1: one the locker one o'clock in the afterday. Huh huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: wait what but he got to do what? He was
Speaker 1: very careful with his answer, because it's not you know,
Speaker 1: being the head coach of Tennessee right now in two
Speaker 1: seventeen is ridiculous. But down the road or yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean twenty twenty one. Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind,
Speaker 1: he wants to be a coach. Well he said that yesterday. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he said it. Coaching is something he has an interest
Speaker 1: in his future. But like I would have imagine going
Speaker 1: to play a game, I gotta I'm I just got
Speaker 1: done practicing for a game that I'm playing in. Right,
Speaker 1: whatever whatever this next coach that ever that they hire,
Speaker 1: that hopefully they can appease the Tennessee fans. But and
Speaker 1: they can hire a coach, but whoever it is, let's
Speaker 1: say he's the forty or thirty fifth coach ever in
Speaker 1: Tennessee history. This this got'll be thirty six Wow, that's
Speaker 1: what I think. Call your shot. So so Witton's probably
Speaker 1: hoping they get someone, okay, not someone that's gonna be there,
Speaker 1: just somebody that's okay, just win a little bit every
Speaker 1: now and then and just warm the seat for him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, Um, let's go and jump into some questions
Speaker 1: and numbers two on four, eight, seven to twenty one two,
Speaker 1: or you can use some Twitter at Cowboys break. Let's
Speaker 1: start with a question from the phone lines that got
Speaker 1: robed in Vegas. Rob what up? Hey, everybody? Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1: You know we're talking about kick return his last kick
Speaker 1: return on them and I was really fast? Was Randall
Speaker 1: Williams for when paus Hills was here a couple of years,
Speaker 1: you know, to kept trying to get this guy in
Speaker 1: the field, couldn't catch. His claim to fame was running
Speaker 1: back that onside kick against Silly fastest touchdown history of
Speaker 1: the NFL. That's what they say. It is talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, moves. I see they're gonna bench probably Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: The two moves that I would like to be made
Speaker 1: pretty quickly is I think they got to get Byron
Speaker 1: Jones out of safety position and move in the corner
Speaker 1: I don't think he's built the play safety, and his
Speaker 1: tackling style of jumping on your back and hanging on
Speaker 1: until you fold out from the entire just doesn't work
Speaker 1: at a safety. I think he's a better corner. And
Speaker 1: let's get Dez to return punts. It's the best wide
Speaker 1: receiver in football. Antonio Brown can do it. I think
Speaker 1: we could risk Dez doing it, get him into the
Speaker 1: flow of the game. And I think, you know, he's
Speaker 1: an excitable play he could he could jump start this offense.
Speaker 1: And I just think those are two moves they could
Speaker 1: do Thursday and let's see what happens. I mean, we
Speaker 1: got to win five in a row to have a
Speaker 1: chance at the playoffs, so I'd like to see that happen.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks so Cal. You know I've said that
Speaker 1: about Dez and returning punts for a couple of years
Speaker 1: down and I agree that. You know, you see other
Speaker 1: stars do it. Deshan Jackson had had done it for
Speaker 1: many years. Wes Welker did it when they were the starters.
Speaker 1: The only thing right now that I'm not sure it
Speaker 1: would work is because Dez isn't making anyone miss in
Speaker 1: the open field as a receiver, you know, so like now,
Speaker 1: it's a little different when you're playing kick returner because
Speaker 1: you don't have the same type of tacklers and they're
Speaker 1: running full speed and they're not you know, they're a
Speaker 1: little out of control, so you can maybe make some
Speaker 1: plays there. But you know, he hasn't really shown that
Speaker 1: ability of just get the ball in his hands and
Speaker 1: make plays. He hasn't done that this year. But it's
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to give him a chance, and I
Speaker 1: would do it. There are great special teams players in
Speaker 1: the league, but they're not starters for a reason, like
Speaker 1: they're I mean, they're not your front line tacklers. So
Speaker 1: I you know, i'd like to see him. I'd like
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't want it to do it all the time.
Speaker 1: I've always said that, but like, I would give him
Speaker 1: a chance. But but what I would tell him is
Speaker 1: is like, if you're gonna do it, catch it. Go
Speaker 1: up there and catch it, because we're gonna put you
Speaker 1: in there. When they're pinning back at the ten yard line,
Speaker 1: the guy's standing in his end zone, he's gonna punt
Speaker 1: it to the midfield. You better catch it. Because if
Speaker 1: you decide that it's going a little crazy. I'd rather
Speaker 1: just let it bounce it. It goes thirty yards down
Speaker 1: to the twenty and you just killed the field position
Speaker 1: we gave you. That's not good. And Switzer does it
Speaker 1: too sometimes, you know. I mean, I don't care who
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, the best punt returns the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have had have been the slowest guys other than Dion.
Speaker 1: Dion was different. He was just insane. But guys like
Speaker 1: Kelvin Patrick Crayton, they were really good. They weren't very fast,
Speaker 1: they just caught the ball. Swinton was fast. Regie Sinton
Speaker 1: was pretty fast. Yeah, just but got up the field.
Speaker 1: Just go whatever it is, don't worry about it. And
Speaker 1: you know what, you're gonna get hit. It's gonna hurt
Speaker 1: because they're going. So you gotta be a little crazy.
Speaker 1: You gotta be looking really enjoy the that part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whis are crazy and I'd be afraid of that part
Speaker 1: of it. Huh oh sorry. Um. Jason Garrett was asked
Speaker 1: about moving Byron yesterday and he said, no, So, I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe he'd be better at corner. I think Nick's been
Speaker 1: saying that since like week two, really, so maybe he
Speaker 1: would be. But and I'm sad about that because if
Speaker 1: you remember two years ago on this show and Brian
Speaker 1: and I argued about it a lot, I thought he
Speaker 1: was a safety from the start, and he thought he
Speaker 1: was a corner, or at least set it at the time,
Speaker 1: and I saw I thought, you know, he needed to
Speaker 1: be a safety. And but Rob's right, and you know
Speaker 1: on the caller, because he doesn't tackle well enough to
Speaker 1: be a safety. He's got pretty good awareness, he's got
Speaker 1: good range and all that, But then again, is he
Speaker 1: is he that good of a cover guy? I was
Speaker 1: just what you say, like, I don't know that that
Speaker 1: his coverage skills are good enough for him to be
Speaker 1: a corner. So I almost think, you know how you
Speaker 1: hear about tweeters on the defensive front, I almost wonder
Speaker 1: if he's a twitter Like he's an okay cover guy,
Speaker 1: decent tackler, but not great at either one to make
Speaker 1: you say, oh, yeah, that safety for him? It may
Speaker 1: may yeah, that's the deadline to offer him a fifth
Speaker 1: year option? Would you do it? No? No, although, but
Speaker 1: I don't know where I would argue. He's made some
Speaker 1: really fantastic plays in coverage, like throughout his career. I
Speaker 1: don't know that I trust him to do it eighteen
Speaker 1: times a game, like as an outside corner. Really, this
Speaker 1: isn't what you want to hear about your first round pick.
Speaker 1: But like his his best role to this point has
Speaker 1: just been like when he covers the tight end and
Speaker 1: he's like a dime back type of good. He's out
Speaker 1: there in situations where there's extra defensive backs on the field.
Speaker 1: That's That's the other thing to consider here. Most of
Speaker 1: those plays you've probably seen him, he's been covering it
Speaker 1: ends right, if he's a corner and having to cover.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I trust him to make good
Speaker 1: plays and coverage against tight ends and maybe bigger wide receivers,
Speaker 1: but like not not the Julio Joneses of the world,
Speaker 1: at least not from what I've seen. Um yeah, paying
Speaker 1: kind of money for a slot corner, he's basically what
Speaker 1: he has become. You're you got to make a decision
Speaker 1: on his fifth year option in May, and we'll see.
Speaker 1: Now you just don't think it's worth it. I that's
Speaker 1: that's tough. I mean they didn't. They've they've been giving
Speaker 1: these guys their options because they've been good players. I
Speaker 1: mean it's been Zach and Travis and Tying. They did
Speaker 1: not offer Mo his and that was mainly because of
Speaker 1: injuries and got him back on a one year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Byron's been available. You can say that for him, Like
Speaker 1: he's never missed a game? Has he? I don't think so,
Speaker 1: He's never missed again. He even been on the injury
Speaker 1: point like I'm trying. He was earlier this year really
Speaker 1: briefly remember like Thursday practice and yeah, he had a
Speaker 1: little something growing or something. So I mean he's available.
Speaker 1: He's good enough to be out there. He'll he'll make
Speaker 1: a play every now and then. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if that merits a fifth year option, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see. Well, I think all part
Speaker 1: of that also has to be what do you think
Speaker 1: about Xavier Woods? Right? I mean, if you if you
Speaker 1: you're a lot of times what you do is dictated
Speaker 1: about what you have as well. Well. The other I believe,
Speaker 1: and I need to read up because I'm not in
Speaker 1: offseason mode right now, but I'm pretty sure that deadline
Speaker 1: is after the draft, so you could also wait and
Speaker 1: see what you pick up in the draft. Right, So okay,
Speaker 1: and let's take a question from Twitter. Well, we alreadly
Speaker 1: talked about Tony Romo and Dak for a little bit,
Speaker 1: but here's a question. Can you guys compare the growth
Speaker 1: that each of them have had during their second year.
Speaker 1: So if you were to compare Dak right now versus
Speaker 1: Tony Romo's growth in his second year, well, well it's
Speaker 1: tough to do because Romo's second year of playing was
Speaker 1: his fourth year the year. Yeah, so and you know Dak,
Speaker 1: Dak was prepared, you know, his senior year is playing
Speaker 1: again Alabama and LSU in those tough places to play,
Speaker 1: while Romo really didn't have a big crowd until he
Speaker 1: got to the preseason game, you know, And so a
Speaker 1: tough comparison, but we'll try. Um. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think that I think Romo is a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a student of the game, you know, when it
Speaker 1: when it comes to knowing where you know defenses are
Speaker 1: and knowing you know how to how to beat them,
Speaker 1: and so I think that he's got more development that way.
Speaker 1: But I think Dak's got more physical tools to kind
Speaker 1: of just when the lights come on, just kind of
Speaker 1: go make plays. Just kind of doesn't look pretty all
Speaker 1: the time. But you know, and Romo did that as well.
Speaker 1: So I I was we talking about his second year
Speaker 1: as a starter. Yeah, yeah, I mean have to the
Speaker 1: second year as I was. I was a freshman in college,
Speaker 1: and I like, was was Romo like great at moving
Speaker 1: guys and audibling at the line the way? What what
Speaker 1: actually what Romo was great at that early in his
Speaker 1: career was he was great at extending play. That's what
Speaker 1: he was great at. Like he had the ability on
Speaker 1: any given play. The play that always comes back to
Speaker 1: my mind as a game against the Rams, Boss gets
Speaker 1: snapped over his head, he runs back, he grabs it,
Speaker 1: he makes a little move, he gets the defense to
Speaker 1: kind of buy into maybe the fact that he's gonna
Speaker 1: throw it, but he runs it and he picks up
Speaker 1: I think two yards or something like that, right. But
Speaker 1: the fact is it was one of the most remarkable
Speaker 1: players you ever want to see. That sums up what
Speaker 1: he was early in Okay. But but here's the difference
Speaker 1: though that that mentality was I can make this play.
Speaker 1: I am good enough to make this play. And what
Speaker 1: Sometimes he'd get down in the red zone and there
Speaker 1: would be a linebacker here in a safety here, and
Speaker 1: he said, I can make that throw right between you. Didn't.
Speaker 1: It was intercepted, and that in Bill Parcels is now
Speaker 1: yelling at you, and he discriminate throws. And he did
Speaker 1: that even twenty twelve when you weren't even with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys yet. He was just kind of doing like flip
Speaker 1: passes with the season on the line and getting intercepted.
Speaker 1: And Brett far did that his whole career as well.
Speaker 1: One of his last throws ever with the Vikings was
Speaker 1: helped the Saints gets to the super Bowl. So he's
Speaker 1: when it's in you, it's still in you. But Dak
Speaker 1: is better than that. Like Dak has been like taught, trained, brainwashed,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, like, he doesn't really make those that often.
Speaker 1: And so I guess that's the point I was gonna
Speaker 1: make before Dave started talking about that, is I actually
Speaker 1: think that if you want to look at Dak and
Speaker 1: Tony at this at the same stage in their career,
Speaker 1: I actually think that they were very similar from the
Speaker 1: standpoint that they both could make plays by extending by
Speaker 1: extending plays. But I do think from a standpoint of Romo,
Speaker 1: I think he was way more reckless with the ball
Speaker 1: at this stage than Dak is okay, and here Dak
Speaker 1: is like history and mean, it's a bad time to
Speaker 1: talk about it because he's got five turnover the last
Speaker 1: two games, but he's been historically good with the ball
Speaker 1: for such a young player. If Zeke comes back and
Speaker 1: these last two games that he plays and gets somehow
Speaker 1: gets two hundred and thirty yards and gets to a thousand,
Speaker 1: that'll get that'll be the second one thousand yard rusher
Speaker 1: that's played with Dak. And I think Tony has three
Speaker 1: so and all of his career, and Dak would have two.
Speaker 1: That just goes to show that they had different offenses
Speaker 1: around them as well. Julius Jones went for a thousand
Speaker 1: and four yards like his first year, and then not
Speaker 1: until DeMarco, not until DeMarco had a couple And in fact,
Speaker 1: if you really want to say Romo as a full
Speaker 1: time starter, because he wasn't a full time starter, no. Six.
Speaker 1: So if you want to say it's this full time
Speaker 1: starter that he's had two in his career, and Dak
Speaker 1: has a good chance to get too. Obviously would have
Speaker 1: had two. Zequinn and I think that his ability to
Speaker 1: be able to because they really they were I won't
Speaker 1: say they put it all on his back because they
Speaker 1: still with Marian Barber. They were efficient running the ball.
Speaker 1: That was a big part of their offense, and they
Speaker 1: had a good offensive lineback then too. So I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, you could probably make a case that both
Speaker 1: of them, and at this stage of their career, everything
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily heaped on them. They had other parts to
Speaker 1: the team they I think back then they had a
Speaker 1: better defense that Romo was working with then what they
Speaker 1: got right now Dallas probably not as big stretch to
Speaker 1: say hit in Dallas set an NFL record for Pro
Speaker 1: Bowlers and Romo's second season, and that's not always a
Speaker 1: good indicator saying yeah, I got like thirteen of them
Speaker 1: or something. When they have a good season, they get
Speaker 1: guys to the Pro Bowl. You know, it happens like that.
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