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Speaker 2: This this morning combat. Hey take two, huh take two?

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Speaker 2: There he is. You know, it's amazing. We're using the

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Speaker 2: didn't work before, So this is the second attempt at

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Speaker 2: having a show. My name is Luke Thomas. I joined

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Speaker 2: from the capital of the status of Niedos with the

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Speaker 2: King of Tech Difficulties. Boy, it is so nice for

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Speaker 3: That's that's a rich accusation coming from you, sir. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Say it's so nice that everything worked on my end

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Speaker 2: and nothing worked on yours for once. How are you doing? BC?

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Speaker 3: This software took a two? Take two, Luke.

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Speaker 3: All right, it's uh Hey, I'm back, Luke. Let's talk

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Speaker 3: about this load. Did UFC Fight Night Card this Saturday?

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Speaker 3: How about it?

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Speaker 2: Well, let's set the table here very quickly. So we

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Speaker 2: and that didn't work, so we just decided, you know what,

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Speaker 2: and then we're gonna put it on the the interwebs

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Speaker 2: later today, YouTube dot Com, slash Morning Combat. If you're

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Speaker 2: we're talking about. It's this. It's because our our initial

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Speaker 2: the terrible UFC show, we'll talk about the pretty good

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Speaker 2: it was going to be at noon on live. Now

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Speaker 2: it's not going to be live, but the legend Frank

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Speaker 2: just the same thumbs up on YouTube, hit subscribe, all

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Speaker 2: of the all of that jazz. You know what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about? BC? Can you hear me? Could you respond

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Speaker 2: in a way that yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look I'm still here. I'm gonna be here. The whole

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Speaker 3: And we will fancy. So thanks to all the fans

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Did you get some good sleep last night?

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Speaker 2: We see you. Look, I gotta tell you boy. You

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Speaker 2: of us who didn't go on one. You look haggard. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I am haggard. I am haggard.

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Speaker 3: You know it wasn't just six days in Vegas, it

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Speaker 2: you heard me talking about this u UFC card. So

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Speaker 2: But the car just has zero appeal true or false?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. And you get a couple of those

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Speaker 3: There ain't much here at all. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: But I don't think they're doing those bits. They just

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Speaker 2: That's what it feels to me. It feels like an

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Speaker 2: When you take a version of it, not yet see.

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Speaker 3: oversaturation period of this ESPN era with UFC. It's not

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Speaker 3: I saw the meme this morning that showed a live

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Speaker 3: that is just all sort of related right now. UFC

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Speaker 3: right Luke. But in between, they ain't throwing a burger

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Speaker 3: They have expectations to just keep that train moving no

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Speaker 2: Okay. It goes to show you like there's just not

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Speaker 3: It's all happened and at once, Luke, And it's not

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Speaker 2: Part of it to me is that we talked about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear your point. I'm saying this is this

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Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose from a corporate standpoint, they're going

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Speaker 3: Interesting because after the sale July twenty sixteen UFC two hundred,

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Speaker 3: but there was a hangover there, is what I'm saying, Luke, Okay,

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Speaker 3: yes there was, yeah after that.

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Speaker 2: Could be one here we'll see as well. But it

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Speaker 3: You know that's all I care about that, Zuck, You

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Speaker 2: Fuck him all right? From Song You Dong to Ricky Simone,

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Speaker 2: He is currently sitting at twenty five. Wow, he's still

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, And Simone's on a good stretch right now

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Speaker 3: Although let's not forget Luke because I forgot some mode

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Speaker 2: Ever happened he did, it was and it was a

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Speaker 3: Here's my overarching wonder about this fight. We know how

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Speaker 2: See. I don't for Song of Dog at twenty five

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Speaker 2: I think Song of Dong is ranked higher, but let

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Speaker 2: honestly don't judge him too harshly. He's been facing guys

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the questions I have related to that and

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Speaker 3: them a little bit, you know what I mean, and say, well,

431
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:18,360
Speaker 3: what about that?

432
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like he's not quite exactly where

433
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,639
Speaker 2: he needs to be in terms of understanding what works

434
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,120
Speaker 2: for him. You know, clearly he's very strong. Clearly he

435
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,680
Speaker 2: is a dynamic puncher, no doubt about that. Certainly has

436
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 2: good pocket presence, good experience at this point. But in

437
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 2: terms of like building the pieces of like, I don't know,

438
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 2: man like, I just feel like sometimes there's just not

439
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 2: enough situational awareness about what he needs to do to

440
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 2: really navigate a difficult problem. He doesn't have the quite

441
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 2: same adaptability to go to different gears, and to me,

442
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 2: that just means he hasn't quite worked on his game enough,

443
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 2: and so they put him in the UFC way too.

444
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 2: I was like a twenty year old kid or something,

445
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 2: twenty one year old kid, whatever, It was just way

446
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 2: too young, and so he already he had a lot

447
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 2: of promise and still does. I guess my point being is,

448
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 2: did I see enough in the Sandhagen fight that gives

449
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 2: me confidence to believe that with a few more adjustments

450
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 2: that are doable in that time frame that he can

451
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 2: give Simone problems. He's got the punching power. If Simona

452
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 2: is not careful, yes he can get put away. But

453
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 2: if Simona is on his game, Yeah, I don't know

454
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 2: that I've seen enough sure from from Leodong at this

455
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 2: point to really you know, get the vote of confidence.

456
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have the same questions. I think we just

457
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 3: come at it from different starting points in terms of

458
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 3: our you know, understanding about who he really is and

459
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 3: who he might become. But you know, do you think

460
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: he was a victim of an early rush due to

461
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 3: the want for the brand to hit harder in China

462
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 3: and getting Wayley Jong's champion at that point, opening up

463
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 3: a performance institute, all of that.

464
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 2: Also, you know, we kind of forget this a little bit,

465
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 2: but three or four years ago the Bantaway division wasn't

466
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: as good as it is, you know what I mean? Like,

467
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 2: you know, he when did he make his UFC debut?

468
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: He made his UFC debut. Let's see song you don

469
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: who liked twenty five years? I mean he made it

470
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: back in twenty seventeen, so like five years ago, right,

471
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 2: five years ago? To do was twenty you know, you

472
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 2: would have thought, oh, in five years, if the division

473
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: looks like roughly what it looks like now, yeah, he

474
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 2: will be better. But the problem is it got way

475
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 2: way better, very very quickly. And I don't think he's

476
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,479
Speaker 2: been able to keep pace. Not many guys have. I mean,

477
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's an easy thing to do, and

478
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: I show you know, let me back up a step.

479
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: He's ranked number eight, so saying he can't keep pace

480
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 2: actually itself is not fair. He has not been able

481
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: to keep pace with expectations. I think that's pretty fair.

482
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 2: Now those expectations again, Kyler Phillips scary, underrated and song

483
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,959
Speaker 2: you dong excuse me. Cory Sanhigan really really good, no

484
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 2: doubt about it. He's not losing the chumps out here.

485
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 2: But you mentioned the Stamen draw and everything else, like

486
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: I just haven't quite I haven't quite seen the refinement

487
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: that gives me confident. And so he can problem solve

488
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 2: with a very varied skill set that allows him to

489
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: attack very unique situations. And Ricky Simone, you know, he

490
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 2: kind of fits a he kind of fits an old prototype,

491
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 2: but he's more than that now, He's he's got real

492
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: levels of refined skill and that ace in the hole

493
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: with the takedowns and the the gas tank that make

494
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: him he make him a fucking handful, make him.

495
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: And he got better. Shaving his mullet made him better.

496
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 3: Luke the opposite of the Samson.

497
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: Dude, There's never been a UFC champion with a mullet.

498
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: What do you think that means? Bro? What do you

499
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: think that way? That's fair?

500
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: But do you think it's fair that we enter into

501
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: this main event, which again deepest division of the sport.

502
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 3: I love the fight. No one's gonna crap on that

503
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 3: number eight versus number ten, But Nirmaga Metof is number eleven, Luke,

504
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: shouldn't he be ranked higher?

505
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: Yeah? He probably should be. But here's the good news.

506
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: He will be Like I'm not worried about his development,

507
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I'm just watching the clock

508
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 2: on him, waiting for him to get the right fight

509
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: so he can move up the food chain that is

510
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: in That is about as close to an inevitability in

511
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: the bantamweight division as you still sure.

512
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: Those umar might be the best of all the abdullmen

513
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 3: app spin offs, do you still? Yeah?

514
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: I mean I think that there is a good place

515
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 2: to have very high optimism, but dude, you got a

516
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: lot to prove before you can prove you're the very

517
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: best of what abdulmen opp was able to produce. Like

518
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: pump the brakes a little bit on that, you know

519
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like if you want to say, he

520
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: looks like he has what it takes to be a

521
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: UFC champion and potentially for some time. I don't think

522
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 2: that's crazy, But you have to go out there and

523
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: do that, and that's you know, it's a lot of work, man, Like,

524
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 2: anything can go wrong at any.

525
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 3: Point in everything's got to go your way too. You

526
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: gotta be great and things have to go your way.

527
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: It's all got to line up.

528
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: I hear you. I hear you. So all right comin

529
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: event BC. It's not a bad fight. It's just a

530
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 2: fine middleweight fight. Kyobohalio with the aggressive neck tattoos, take

531
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: it on again. I'm gonna try and say it right,

532
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 2: Michael Oleks, I think that's.

533
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: He ha Luke, you know, can we put some respect

534
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: on the punch eating polish who is a fantastic Alpha

535
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: rand impersonator tru or false?

536
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

537
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he is, Luke. I love he's fun

538
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 3: to watch me hall Ola Shk consecutive knockout wins over

539
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: Sam LV and Cody Brunders to snap a losing skid.

540
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: Good start here, but is this feel more like a

541
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 3: potential showcase opportunity to see how good this neck tatted

542
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: Kyo Barijo really is? Luke he wants all the damn

543
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 3: he wants violence at all times. How good is he?

544
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: How good is that man?

545
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: He's very good with positional control, but has shown other

546
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: issues to be quite relevant, Like you don't see him

547
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: strike for very long periods on the feet. He does

548
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: have good takedowns. His ability to find the back is

549
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: absolutely excellent. But then he's got I think four to

550
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: wins in a row, which tells you that, like the

551
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: finishing from there is probably not where it should be.

552
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: So this is a great opportunity for him to Like,

553
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: here's the great part about Kyoebohoalio in this contest. He

554
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: doesn't need to really change anything that he ordinarily does.

555
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: But I think dialing up some of that positional intensity

556
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: to let the room for ground and pound to get

557
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: in there and then ultimately submissions. I do think that

558
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 2: is missing from his previous performances. But given that it's

559
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: kind of like a striker versus grappler matchup again, he

560
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: can go back to that lane and really work on

561
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 2: his game. So it's he could look good here.

562
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: He could you have any thoughts about the ink choices

563
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 3: or no, it's not my favorite?

564
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, not my favorite. You know, you know it's kind

565
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: of funny too. He's got written in English. I wonder

566
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: if so. My brother was telling me something when my

567
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 2: brother moved to London. He said it was like he

568
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: was surprised at how many Ausses lived there. This was

569
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, and he was saying that, like, one

570
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: thing you'll see is a lot of the Australian guys

571
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: have Native American dream catcher tattoos because to them, like

572
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: Native America can look very It's this very distant, exotic thing,

573
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: almost like how Americans get like, you know, like Ninja

574
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: warriors tattooed on them. It's like this exotic, kind of

575
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: faraway thing. Maybe English looks like that to him, I

576
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: don't know, but to me it just looks. Yeah, it's

577
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: not great.

578
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: You would say, like almost ninety percent of people who

579
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: tattoo the Adams Apple and Combat Sports it just looks

580
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: ridiculous or too aggressive. It really leads me to believe

581
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: that Davonte knows what the hell he's doing looke, because

582
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 3: he pulls off all that like extreme tattooing very smoothly.

583
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: I'd have to I'd love to get his thoughts on

584
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 3: ash cheeks tho, because I bet you he's against that.

585
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: I and I like to you, I guarantee you, I

586
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: guarantee you Gervonte is either has done it already or

587
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: is going to guarantee.

588
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: I could already tell you he's.

589
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: He's around too many people who love tattoos for that

590
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: to not be unplayed.

591
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: But loving tattoos on the ash cheek is just it's

592
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: just so bizarre.

593
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: Dude. You have you have a finite amount of real estate.

594
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: If you're driving, you look at your His hands are

595
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: like literally his hands are covered his throat. He has

596
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: it up to his past his jawline. Actually, so, I

597
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: mean he's if everything else is covered, like, what else

598
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: are you gonna do?

599
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 3: Palms?

600
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: You can do your palms. That's that's on.

601
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: Did Austin Vanderford win the next challenge?

602
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: No, I don't love his tattoo on the throat that's

603
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: not for me. Yeah. See, I think I like the

604
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: side of the neck. I think the side of the

605
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: neck is better right in the front. Man, that's a lot,

606
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: you know, Julian ros is on this card. B see

607
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: anyone else in this card do you give a damn about.

608
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: You're talking about Juicy j Yeah. I like that guy too, Luke.

609
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: You know, as I look up and Brian MMA beat

610
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: member is I.

611
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, a friend of MMA journalism, Brian boom

612
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 3: kellerher could use a nice win here against Journey Newsom

613
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: Luke hopefully gets that. But no, you know, normally I

614
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: could pick out something super sloppy from the one, one

615
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: five or or hey, remember that guy fought that guy

616
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: and he did that he's back. We ain't got much

617
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: of that going on here, Luke. This is very reminiscent

618
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: of the extra bootlegs by the Bell the New Cast

619
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: seasons where you still had Screech unfortunately right and Belding's

620
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: there forever. But like, who the fuck are these guys? Luke?

621
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: Right?

622
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, that's what it kind

623
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: of fell like, right.

624
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: Dude, I forgot about that low key change to save

625
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: by the belt. Remember when they went to college and

626
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: they all ended up in the same fucking college.

627
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: That wasn't that bad in hindsight, that season, right, wasn't

628
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: that bad.

629
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't that bad. But I remember thinking, I remember

630
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: watching that at a time where college was like either

631
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: near me or not too far away, and I'm thinking, like, dude,

632
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: the last thing I want to do is go to

633
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: college with these motherfuckers. I'm in high school with the

634
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: last Yeah.

635
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: Isn't that funny how they all ended up back there?

636
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

637
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: That was great.

638
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 4: That that was fantastic.

639
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm going to college to get away from

640
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: you people. That's where I.

641
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: Hey, but Bob Golick underrated in that role too, Luke

642
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: as the uh you know, it's the uh, the dorm guy.

643
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

644
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: Those narks, Luke, you know those they didn't They have

645
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: those at William and Murray Mary they have.

646
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: Those like oh yeah, they call him Ra's like resident

647
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: I forget, I forget the name of the but they

648
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: call him Ra. With her they kind of sit on

649
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: the hall and their hall monitors and they get like.

650
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: You know what, Luke, those people have a horseshoe up

651
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: their ass and speaking of people who have had that

652
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: at one time or been accused of that. We have

653
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: a great guess coming up and not the next Luke.

654
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's bring him now. This gentleman has not

655
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: fought in some time. But of course he's a UFC legend.

656
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: He's a former UFC heavyweight champion, plus a whole lot more.

657
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: He's a living legend.

658
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it joins us from Sin City himself. It's the

659
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: one and only Frank Mere. Hi, Frank, how are you?

660
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 4: Oh? Great? Thanks, I appreciate it.

661
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, good to talk to you, Frank. You are in

662
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: Las Vegas? Correct?

663
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: I was out there actually, Brian, you was just out

664
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: there right. You came off with the fight, yes, sir?

665
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah.

666
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: By the way, did you watch the Gervonte and Ryan

667
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: Garcia fight? If so many thoughts?

668
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually was surprised and so one sided. I

669
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 5: thought that, you know, until the body shot ended. They

670
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 5: just just came out too hard to strong at first

671
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 5: of being too conservative, and then on the other side

672
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 5: of it just kind of opened up and just you know,

673
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 5: I think people do that as with bad game planning,

674
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 5: you know, and it said they overcompensate instead of just

675
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 5: say they're going, hey, man, play shortball. I'm behind, but

676
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 5: let me still just get it on first, let me

677
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 5: get on second. You know, use a baseball analogy for fighting.

678
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: Uh. Sometimes guys seek to behind the fights are not

679
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: doing well, they.

680
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 5: Compensate and that's why I think you're so open for

681
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 5: that body shot.

682
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: Well, listen, we were told that you have an announcement here,

683
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: so let's just give you the floor and you tell

684
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: us what's going on in your life. And then of

685
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: course we're gonna have some questions about it, but by

686
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: all means, please go ahead.

687
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Well, actually, you know, everybody knows that I'm

688
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 5: a big part of the UFL. We were doing some

689
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 5: big things there, you know, making sure fighters have insurance,

690
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 5: a part of the stake in the company, just really

691
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 5: taking care of fighters and just trying to improve the

692
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 5: things that we've we thought that there could be approved

693
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 5: in sports.

694
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: And then you know, my daughter, obviously, my children have

695
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 4: been phoning in my footsteps.

696
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 5: She just wriskling just won a national title for the

697
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 5: you nineteen uh.

698
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: For so now she's going to possibly compete in the Worlds.

699
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 5: But which is caused a bit of scheduling conflict with

700
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 5: us because as of right now, we're fighting together on

701
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: our August card for UFL. We're gonna do a father daughter.

702
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 5: She's in court me while I fight a corner her

703
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 5: while she fights. As of right now, I prefer she

704
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: fought first, but she might be the biggest star, so

705
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: who knows.

706
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: So let's back up a step here. So this is

707
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: gonna be what day May thirteenth?

708
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 5: Or excuse me, this is our next faright coming up

709
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 5: in August twelfth, And make sure I say it correctly. Yeah,

710
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 5: in August twelfth, we're gonna fight in the UFL. It'll

711
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 5: be so far it looks like it'll be in Phoenix.

712
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: Now, you haven't fought in four years? Is this your

713
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: retirement about? How are you positioning this one?

714
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

715
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 5: Basically it's one of those things that I basically have

716
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 5: almost transitioned into full coaching mode.

717
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Now.

718
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny when you're younger fighter, you see

719
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 5: guys you hired, You're like, oh, you know why they lose?

720
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 5: It's like, well, no, it's not even so much as

721
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 5: our physically capable anymore.

722
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: Just get up in the morning, hurts worse and worse.

723
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I think most people that have a nineteen

724
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 5: in their year bracket understand what it feels like to

725
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 5: wake up in the morning, and you add Tom in

726
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 5: the miles and to put on my body.

727
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: So it just makes it difficult, you know, the sacrifice

728
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: to reward.

729
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 5: And so I find it really rewarding right now that

730
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 5: we're coaching other people, to be helping out with my

731
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 5: daughter and my sons, and but you know, my mind

732
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 5: still wants to go out to just do one last

733
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 5: competition for MMA, and so this probably will be the uh,

734
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: you know, last time I'll ever fight as a martial artist,

735
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 5: and you know, I want to finish with an MMA

736
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 5: fight and then fighting the same car with Bella, you know,

737
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 5: having my daughter, and we've even throwing around him. And

738
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 5: this is really just just early talks because my my

739
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 5: seventeen year old's already won state each year now in

740
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 5: high school and he's you know, two ten pounds and

741
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 5: he's you know, trains with me, and he's like, oh,

742
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 5: you know, maybe I can start doing an amateur fight.

743
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, maybe make it a whole night. You know,

744
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: I couldn't son Rogers and be on the car that night.

745
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 4: So making a family affair.

746
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: All right, So again this will be August twelfth, you'll

747
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: be fighting on the same card as your daughter. Now,

748
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: do you have an opponent named yet?

749
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: No, not yet.

750
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 5: A couple of ideas throwing on the board, you know,

751
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 5: as far as what to do obviously, just trying to

752
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 5: get just everything just lined up perfectly, just you know,

753
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 5: and for me being on this side of it, I

754
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: realized it's a little bit more difficult and just showing up,

755
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 5: you know, at the ways and fighting. So we're actually

756
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 5: a progress and it's a work in progress right now,

757
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: looking at different opponents right now of who's you know,

758
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 5: not sign who's capable coming over and you know, and

759
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 5: not gonna be just a one sided fight.

760
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 4: Even though I'm I'll be forty four.

761
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 5: By the time the fight comes on, I'm running to

762
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 5: positions or problems with the commission saying that like, oh,

763
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 5: like what about this guy, like man, your records are

764
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 5: way too there's too much of disparity and experience and

765
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 5: you know, and so it makes it difficult for matching

766
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 5: up as you get older.

767
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: Frank I got to say as well, like and you know,

768
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: I say this with love because we were born in

769
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: the same year. We're both born in nineteen seventy nine.

770
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: Hey you're old, Frank. Yeah, yeah, if you talk about

771
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: getting up and feeling it, buddy, I know, I mean,

772
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly how you feel, but I kind

773
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: of know how you feel in general, though. Can you

774
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: give us a state of your health? You didn't have

775
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: long by the way, of course, folks, you've been watching

776
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: a long time. You had that motorcycle accident back in

777
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: one O four. It's been sometime. You made your MMA

778
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: debut before nine to eleven. I mean, that's how long

779
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: you've been in this one, A long time ago. How

780
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: do you feel these days?

781
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 5: I'm not actually feeling really good now, just because you know,

782
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 5: training for a fight is not a healthy thing, you know.

783
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: You know, you get hurt, you get injured.

784
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: You have timelines and dates you have to stay obligated to,

785
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: and so you push do things and create injuries. And

786
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 5: now that I haven't had to do that for a while,

787
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 5: I've actually have a pretty healthy body. My biggest injury

788
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 5: was actually last one I had probably about a year

789
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 5: and a half ago. I had to have my neck repaired,

790
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: lost the function in my arm for a little bit.

791
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 5: That was bad, and I thought that was in a finishment.

792
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 5: But now I've been back in the gym for the

793
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: last six months, my strength is completely turned in the

794
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 5: arm and now there's no.

795
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 4: Difference, you know. And so that was kind of the

796
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: start of the conversation with six months ago.

797
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 5: I start jumping back in the gym, sparring and rolling

798
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 5: with people on top of coaching, and I was like,

799
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 5: you know, I feel really good. I still have I'm

800
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: sharper than everybody here. I know more than you know.

801
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 4: I understand in the movements and flows and patterns and traps.

802
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 5: But but I didn't think my body would hold up,

803
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 5: and it has now that being said, is they're gonna

804
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 5: hold up to a whole fight camp. I think it

805
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 5: can if I just approached very intelligently, realizing like sparring,

806
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 5: you know, three or four times a week is probably

807
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 5: not going to be useful for me. But at the

808
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: same time, I'm forty four years old. I don't need

809
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 5: the SPA four or five times a week. Say sharp,

810
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 5: I've seen punches. There's go be just different ways for

811
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 5: me to train and approach things. And being in the

812
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 5: weight room for two hours that's not going to be

813
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: beneficial for me, you know, going in there for forty

814
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 5: five minutes of training and then doing a lot of rehab.

815
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 5: I just have to approach my training differently in a

816
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 5: way that realized, Okay, you know I heal slower.

817
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, Frank. Well, the three of us were young, Griffy,

818
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: junior and senior in the same lineup was like the

819
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 3: coolest story we've ever seen. You see Lebron openly saying

820
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: I want to hang around and play in the same lineups?

821
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: Is my on Brownie In a year or two, when

822
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: oft this idea of birth to you know, corner your kids,

823
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: they corner you fight on the same cards, sort of

824
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: have that really cool moment that is, you know, the

825
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 3: real calling card to this event in August.

826
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 4: Well, my kids have always loved the sport of martial arts.

827
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: You know, it's the endeavor's lifestyle.

828
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 5: And I've made all my children train, never with the

829
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 5: expectations to ever be a professional fighter.

830
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: You know.

831
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 5: I think it's like being a musician, you know, I mean,

832
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 5: the love of music is a great thing. But to

833
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: sit there and go, hey, we're gonna go ahead and

834
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 5: put all riggs in this basket that we're gonna plan

835
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 5: on being.

836
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 4: A professional musician and make a living as a rock star.

837
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 5: Even if you've made it as a rock star, you

838
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 5: realize that, you know what injuries happen, you know, you

839
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 5: know all kinds of things that are out of your control.

840
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: So as a parent, I really didn't want this lifestyle

841
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: for my children. And then the more it went along,

842
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 5: especially with Isabella, she was heading face first into it.

843
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 5: You know, she loves violence, she loves aggressiveness. She was

844
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 5: playing football at Gorman. I'm a freshman football team and

845
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: playing and starting at a certain point, I just told her,

846
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, look, you know, biology is go to takeover.

847
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 5: You're a female, you know, and you're not going to

848
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 5: be able to compete with men on this level. And

849
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 5: then wrestling really helped take over for because she considers like, okay, well,

850
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 5: now there's an area that I can go ahead and

851
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 5: compete at and be on the same platform with men,

852
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 5: and it doesn't, you know, it doesn't become an issue.

853
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: So then because of the sport of you know, Ronda

854
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 5: up in the female aspect of our short takeoff, it

855
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 5: became an opportunity. I was like, well, now she could

856
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 5: make a living at this and make a better living

857
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: than I did at the time, you know, because of

858
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 5: what you know, opportunities are now but are granted. And

859
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 5: so I jumped on board. I was like, all right, well,

860
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 5: she's really gonna run face first into this. I could

861
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 5: either be a part of this uh trip and traveling

862
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 5: with her, or I can you know, I sit on

863
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 5: sideline watch. So obviously I wanted to be a part

864
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 5: of it and help the guide her and make sure

865
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 5: that she has made the some mistakes I did. And

866
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 5: then and then as far as that's why I had

867
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 5: her cote on me, at first I was like, you know,

868
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 5: really think you want to do this, Let's walk down

869
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 5: to a cage once, you know, you know, with a

870
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 5: family member, you know, someone you love is about to fight.

871
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 5: You think that sucks, you know, let's let's let's put

872
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 5: you in the pressure. She handled it, and so then

873
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 5: she now her wrestling has taken up at such a

874
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 5: high level of her rested at IOWA being a national champion,

875
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 5: and she's three in o MMA.

876
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: So we got her some fights.

877
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 5: She succeeded and did very well, and so now it's like,

878
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 5: you know, the writing's on the wall. And so then

879
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 5: the conversation was like, you know, wow, you know if

880
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 5: I can just hold on for a little bit and

881
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 5: just have one more fight. What would that be like

882
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 5: to have be able to say that we fought in

883
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 5: the same night, that we were both in the locker

884
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 5: room together, both with her hands wrapped, because so far

885
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 5: we've done that. Now we've both cornered each other, but

886
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 5: each time it's one of us wrapped up or to go.

887
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 5: The other one is just a support role. And here's

888
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: a situation where we'll both be in the back, hands

889
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 5: wrapped up, supporting each other, but at the same time

890
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 5: both be going out to competing.

891
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: And your wife said yes to this, Frank.

892
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, my daughter could be very convincing.

893
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: So hey, I got a question on the on the

894
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: other side of things, which is that you know what

895
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: are Bella's wrestling coaches saying about the m m A participation.

896
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 5: Well, when she first started talking to Iowa about going up,

897
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 5: it was very much made clear that hey, look, this

898
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 5: is part of Bell's life.

899
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 4: Obviously we're going to push you know, wrestling and be

900
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: devoted to it.

901
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 5: But like you know, over the summers, she's still going

902
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 5: to fight, and so fighting once or twice a year

903
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 5: is pretty much been the plan from the get go,

904
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 5: so this is your freshman year and and resting season.

905
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 5: She has her last actually the US Open Senior and

906
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: Nationals is this weekend. She's in town, but she will

907
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 5: be in town tonight to compete this weekend and this

908
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: will actually I think be her last wrestling event, and

909
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 5: then she in school in May, and then you know,

910
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 5: Bella won't take any time off.

911
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 4: She doesn't listen to me, She didn't go and train.

912
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 5: You know, she trains like insanely hard, which scares me

913
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 5: because I see some of the Yeah, I see some

914
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 5: of the writing on the wall where I'm like, look,

915
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 5: you're gonna you gotta slow down a little bit.

916
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: You know, your body, we're still mortal. But you know,

917
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: Bella is so eager and so driven.

918
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 5: She's one of the most I've actually had that conversation

919
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 5: with some of the coaches or you can't test Bella.

920
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 4: If you sit there and go, hey, we're all gonna

921
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: go to.

922
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 5: A song and the last one out wins, I'm like,

923
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 5: she'll die, you'll kill her. I mean, she won't leave

924
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 5: the song, you know what I mean. Like she's just

925
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 5: that mentally driven to prove a point. I don't know

926
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 5: if watching me when she was younger, and then seeing

927
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 5: that like now she wants to pass whatever image she

928
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 5: had to be. I'm like, well, Bella, I mean, you're

929
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 5: just you're already on the trajectory to do so. But uh,

930
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 5: but the mental toughness that my children have is is

931
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 5: on the real to almost too really a detriment and

932
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 5: so uh, you know, timeline when she's come out, you know,

933
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 5: with the rest, and it has been that as long

934
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 5: as we fight over.

935
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: The summer school starts again. This one.

936
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: I wanted to have the fight closer in July, but

937
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 5: just you know, scheduling wise, we just weren't able to

938
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 5: make that work. So we're pushing all the way to August.

939
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 5: She might like, you know, the first week of school

940
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 5: might be a little bit rough for not juggling in

941
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 5: the boats. And then now with the world team that

942
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 5: she just made for wrestling, it's we're just compounding a

943
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: little bit more of a juggling act.

944
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: How far can she go in wrestling? I mean, I

945
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: realize I'm asking, you know, I know you're biased, right obviously,

946
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: because of you know, we all have a daughter. You know,

947
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: she's not wrestling, she's only three, But you know, I

948
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: can understand how you might have a rosy picture of it,

949
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: but it sounds like, as I understand it too, she

950
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: has an nil deal as well through this whole process.

951
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: But how far if she let's say she really wants

952
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: to just focus on wrestling, how far do you think

953
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: she could go?

954
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 4: How think you'd be a living champion?

955
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: Wow?

956
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 4: I mean she's one nationals on the high school level,

957
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 4: she's one now.

958
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 5: National, she's the national champion as a freshman in college?

959
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 2: Would you? Would you? How do you see your role?

960
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: Do you see your role as hey, I'll help you

961
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: go as far as whatever you want, or are you

962
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: trying to steer her one direction or the other?

963
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: I just want her to be happy.

964
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 5: So it's funny we sit in the room and you

965
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 5: say that right, her mother was more or wrestling doesn't

966
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 5: pay any money?

967
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: Why go that direction? We can get still, get hurt.

968
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: Get injured. If you're going to expose your body to

969
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 5: to you know, damage, let's let's you know, let's get

970
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 5: compensated for it.

971
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: Where I just sat there and stass. But what do

972
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 4: you want to do?

973
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: You know?

974
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 5: And that was you know, I want to fight obviously,

975
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 5: I want to be a world champion. You know, and

976
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 5: to pass every record you ever had. She's like, but

977
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 5: I want to go in and look at gold medal.

978
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, I think you don't have to focus

979
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 5: on the wrestling first. A little bit more and we'll

980
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 5: come back and focus on the fighting afterwards.

981
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: We can, you know.

982
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 5: But but it isn't like she's focusing on boxing and

983
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: all of a sudden we have a you know, ten

984
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 5: months out of the year and then we have a

985
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 5: fight in mm A fight That would be a difficult transition.

986
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: The fact that ten months out of the year she's

987
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 5: focused on wrestling and she's in wrestling shape college level

988
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 5: in Iowa, and then I have six eight weeks to

989
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: go and prepare her for an mm A fights makes

990
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 5: it fairly easy in terms.

991
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: Of your career getting back to it. Frank, you know,

992
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: I've been watching it for a long time. Man. I

993
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: remember the redemptive moment against Anthony Hardong. I remember your face.

994
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: I remember you walking up and being like, who am I?

995
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: You know, I'm the man. I remember the whole thing.

996
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: But looking back on it, did you accomplish everything you

997
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: wanted to? You certainly hit some real high water marks.

998
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: I'm curious as to your perspective on now that you

999
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: look back on it, how it all went for you.

1000
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: No.

1001
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 5: Actually, sometimes, and that's actually one of the reasons why

1002
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: I've now really.

1003
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: Stuck myself in a coaching role.

1004
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 5: And there's sometimes, honestly, I do, I get a little

1005
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 5: bit depressed because I say, Hi'm man if I had

1006
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 5: been my own coach, what I know now, Because I mean,

1007
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 5: let's face it, I think until two thousand and eight,

1008
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: you know, or two thousand and five, my head coach

1009
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 5: was a jiu jitsu guy, you know what I mean, Like,

1010
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 5: you know, that's unheard of now in the MMA world,

1011
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 5: you know. I you know, in the two thousands, I

1012
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 5: didn't have anybody that actually fought him a at that time.

1013
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 5: There wasn't enough guys where I wasn't exposed to me

1014
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 5: that were coaching in me. I was having a boxing

1015
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 5: guy that had never done anything in that world, you know,

1016
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 5: helped me with boxing, and a wrestling guy hit me.

1017
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 5: It was the wrestling and it was always kind of

1018
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 5: like up to me to figure out put it together.

1019
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 5: I don't even think I started sparring MMA until two

1020
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 5: thousand and nine or like, actually before that, it was

1021
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 5: kickboxing and then jiu jitsu rounds and then you go fight,

1022
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: and I thought that I was absurd. I'm like, wow,

1023
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 5: I feel like an NFL player that the first time

1024
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 5: I get to play tackle football is on Sunday and

1025
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 5: the rest of the week, you know, we're playing flag

1026
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 5: or we're playing you know, lining drills, but we never

1027
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 5: actually put pads on and hit and do the full

1028
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 5: role until the game. And so obviously now the training

1029
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 5: is such at a high level, and my understanding the

1030
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 5: sport is as much more accomplished than anybody that I

1031
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 5: had worked with, you know, twenty years ago. I always

1032
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 5: say that, man, if I could be my own coach

1033
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 5: twenty years ago, no one could have beat me with

1034
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 5: my athleticism. Nope, I would have been undefeated for many years.

1035
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 4: The resolution I have to that though, is I'm like, oh, well,

1036
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 4: I have three descendants.

1037
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 5: My three children are very much have all my athletic

1038
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 5: ability and more and even much more mental toughness. And

1039
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 5: now I can go ahead and see what I could

1040
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: have done with me as a coach. So I get

1041
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 5: to see, now, oh, okay, what could I have done

1042
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 5: had I had better coaching, you know, better instructions and

1043
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: nothing against Again, if any of my old coaches were watching,

1044
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 5: it's not against him, and just everybody was near the sport.

1045
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: Then it was such a new sport that there wasn't

1046
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: a lot of guys.

1047
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I think the militant team you know that

1048
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 5: had guys that were coaching that were MA guys. You know,

1049
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 5: there was very few at the time. You'd watch guys

1050
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 5: walk I could sit here where you watch fights. Now

1051
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 5: I can watch guys walk up like, Okay, do you

1052
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 5: see this guy's corner. Not one of those cornament has

1053
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: ever fought.

1054
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 4: At MMA fight.

1055
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 5: Then they're cornering and coaching, Like does that make any

1056
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 5: sense to you that you have no understanding? Be Like

1057
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 5: you imagine if I said you had to see this

1058
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 5: football player. Yeah, he came over from rugby instead of

1059
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 5: playing football down in his life, and now it's gonna

1060
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 5: be the head coach.

1061
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: That would be absurd in that sport.

1062
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Frank. I was a Frank Mayer super fan

1063
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: ever since you gave Wes Simms what he what he

1064
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: had coming right there, And uh, you know, I'm a

1065
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 3: sucker for emotional redemptive wins. Luke mentioned the hard onc win.

1066
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: I'll never forget the feeling as a fan when you

1067
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: stopped Big Nog at UFC nine two with punches and

1068
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: it's the first time he'd been stopped, and I know

1069
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: you would go on to submit him, which was you know,

1070
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: just as big, if not bigger in a lot of ways,

1071
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 3: but particularly that two thousand and eight win man, that

1072
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: just seemed like there was a lot coming out of

1073
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: you in that celebration. When you look back on that,

1074
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: what was sort of the mental journey you had going

1075
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 3: through that.

1076
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 5: Well, it's a lot of redemption because I really had

1077
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 5: given up on myself at that point in my life.

1078
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 5: It's still actually emotional to me to think about because

1079
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 5: you know, after I got to the motorcycle accident in

1080
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 5: two thousand and four, I was a heavyweight champ in

1081
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 5: the world. I got my leg broken, and obviously the

1082
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 5: UFC sat around for about a year before they took

1083
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 5: the title away from me, you know, which is probably

1084
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 5: longer than I even deserved with the injuries that I had,

1085
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 5: and then play I was ever going to fight, and

1086
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 5: then when I did come back, they were ugly. You know,

1087
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 5: the fights I won looked like shit lost fights, and

1088
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 5: so pretty much the Anthony Hargun fight was emotional because

1089
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 5: I was I was you know before that fight was

1090
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 5: basically even my walking papers, like, hey, if you don't

1091
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 5: go out there and look like the old winning doesn't

1092
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 5: matter at this point.

1093
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: If you don't look like what you used to look like,

1094
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: you're done.

1095
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 5: And then go back and from that work through Schmidt

1096
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 5: Lesnar and then come back and then fight No.

1097
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: Gareth at the time was considered a much better fighter,

1098
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 4: you know.

1099
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 5: It was, you know, the Pride champion, and people considered

1100
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 5: the number one, number two in the world.

1101
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: You know.

1102
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 5: And so to run through that Gautlet and overcome the

1103
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 5: fears and and just the doubts I had in my

1104
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 5: own mind, you know, I was battling myself that night,

1105
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 5: you know. I mean just I didn't think that, you

1106
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 5: know that, you know, like, you know, coming through on

1107
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 5: the other side of that, like was like, wow, you

1108
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 5: know you can't accomplish these things.

1109
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: Well, you look like Marvin Hagler that night against him.

1110
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean, just just the fact that he'd never been

1111
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: stopped and had almost a zombie like chin, like you

1112
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: gotta be like, oh shit, I'm not just like back.

1113
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: I just tapped Lesnar and knocked out big nog. I mean,

1114
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: that's pretty that that must have been something huge in

1115
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: that moment.

1116
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 4: No, that was a good peak in my life.

1117
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 5: You know, definitely maybe realize that, like, oh, you know,

1118
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 5: with the proper training and everything put together, that I

1119
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 5: can accomplish big things. And and I think also to

1120
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: just the hole that I was in before that really

1121
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 5: digging out of it to reach that tight seat and

1122
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 5: made it more. You know, it's kind of coming out

1123
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 5: of Grand Canyon and then climbing a Mount Everest. You know,

1124
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 5: it's a double accomplishment because of how far back I

1125
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 5: basically started.

1126
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: Frank Joe Silva once had a great quote about you.

1127
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: This was in your prime and he said, Frank, mere

1128
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: is what happens when technique meets horsepower. And we don't

1129
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: see a ton of heavyweights these days who are really

1130
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: submission oriented. So I'm going to give you a challenge here.

1131
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 2: You are allowed to put yourself on the list. Okay,

1132
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: you are allowed to do it. In fact, I think

1133
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: you'd be kind of weird if you didn't. But give

1134
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: me your Mount Rushmore, your top four submission heavyweights, submission

1135
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: oriented heavyweights. Who do you think belongs on that list?

1136
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: Oh? I think no Gerra myself, and then.

1137
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 5: Verdum, you know, and then I would still put Barnett

1138
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 5: on there also, you know, I think Josh also is

1139
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 5: very good in submission.

1140
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 4: This is a heavyweight.

1141
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: Do you feel like it's weird? Heavyweights have kind of

1142
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: changed a little bit. I mean, there are some that

1143
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: are out there doing that kind of thing. But we

1144
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: had a weird era, right, but there was like a

1145
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: bunch of guys competing all at once who could do that.

1146
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: I wonder why we don't see as much of it

1147
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: these days.

1148
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 5: I think the rules too in the sports sometimes there's

1149
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 5: just a few just we don't really favor seeing guys

1150
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 5: roll on the ground, you know. In fact, you know,

1151
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 5: here's an example of bias. If you were to fight me, Luke,

1152
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 5: and you take me down near my guard, and you

1153
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 5: want to stay there and you want to work, and

1154
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 5: I just wrap your arms and I hold I look

1155
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 5: up at the referee. I'm essentially the one stalling. You know,

1156
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 5: you're not able to move.

1157
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 4: I tied you up. I'm not doing a really offensive movement.

1158
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 4: I'm just stalling you.

1159
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 5: I've clenched you up basically like a boxer clinching up

1160
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 5: on in a fight. In a boxing match, I'm very

1161
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 5: obviously the one stalling the action as the bottom guy.

1162
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 4: Because I want to get rewarded.

1163
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 5: And then and sure enough, I'm rewarded instead of being docked,

1164
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 5: you know, points for stalling and being told to open

1165
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 5: up to move. The referee stops to fight or he

1166
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 5: starts the guy at the neutral and gives the guy

1167
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 5: reward for stalling for making the fight, you know. And

1168
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 5: it shows that like all we want you guys to

1169
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 5: stand is why stand there? Why not go give me

1170
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 5: a position, let me pay. If you're going to stall,

1171
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 5: then get to go past your legs, you know what

1172
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 5: I mean. Like that would then increase the action on

1173
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 5: the ground. It's like, all right, we'll watch, let me

1174
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 5: move to half guard, you know what I mean. But

1175
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 5: it shows what the mental bias is that because to

1176
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: understand MMA, you have to know grappling. You have to

1177
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 5: compete at jiu jitsu wrestling and understand what's going on

1178
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 5: in the grappling aspects of our sport.

1179
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: It's not intuitive.

1180
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 5: You can't sit there and go, well, that guy has

1181
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 5: his legs wrapped around here, what's going on? Well, why

1182
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 5: is that guy grabbing that guy's wrist. Boxing is extremely scientific.

1183
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 5: But you can watch a boxing match. You can bring

1184
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 5: a date, you can bring a family member that has

1185
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 5: no idea about angles, about fakes, about traps, nothing, lines

1186
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 5: of attack. They you just watch two guys in their

1187
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 5: minds punch each other in the face, like, oh, that

1188
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 5: was entertaining. You bring people to a grappling match and

1189
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 5: have no idea what they're watching, and it's boring to them.

1190
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 5: Now obviously at some of the commentators, you know, and

1191
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 5: enlightening and trying to educate the audience of what's going on.

1192
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: But I think that as a promoter, I get it.

1193
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 5: It sells more tickets to watch guys knock each other

1194
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 5: out than it does to see guys submit. So I

1195
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 5: think as fighter, we also see that, and so that

1196
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 5: why the trend has gone that direction where there's a

1197
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 5: reward for you know, banging it out and just you know,

1198
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 5: just biting down your mouth. He's throwing punches, and so

1199
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 5: that's why you see such a drift in that direction.

1200
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 5: And learning grappling moves is hard. It takes a lot

1201
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 5: more technique. When I coach people, I haven't as much

1202
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 5: easier time to explain how to throw a jab and

1203
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 5: how to step and step offline. Then I do have

1204
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 5: an explain that to do you know a choke because

1205
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, well you're gonna have to feel the

1206
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 5: adjustment here on the head and arm. Okay, well the

1207
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 5: person moves this way. This guy's head shaped this way,

1208
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 5: this guy's head shaped that way. Because you're connecting two

1209
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 5: bodies together, there's a lot more compensations and adjustices have

1210
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 5: been made. It's much more of a chess match thinking that.

1211
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 4: Sport, and so.

1212
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 5: It's easier if you're a good athlete, you know. Like

1213
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 5: I saw something that someone who sent me a screenshot.

1214
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 5: I think Lewis was making a joke about your jiu jitsu.

1215
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 5: There's a real to stand up. I'm like, well, yeah,

1216
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 5: not everybody can be six four to eighty, you know

1217
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 5: and throw, you know, be gifted. But you know, so

1218
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 5: if you don't have those attributes, how are you gonna

1219
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 5: win will grappling? You know, And if you do have

1220
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 5: those attributes, which he's faced a couple of guys now

1221
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 5: that have taken them down and choked them out, it

1222
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 5: even makes you that much more superior. So I think

1223
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 5: that the reason why we don't see it that much.

1224
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 5: Is again it's it's it's difficult to learn. It's much easier.

1225
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: You know.

1226
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 5: The time frame to be able to just strap up

1227
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 5: and throw punches is much shorter than a guy jumping

1228
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: in and rested and doing grappling.

1229
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: Have you given any thought to your legacy in the sport,

1230
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: what you want it to be, what you believe it

1231
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: to be, what it is?

1232
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: No, not too much. I think uh. I think it

1233
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 4: is the science of martial arts.

1234
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 5: I just like to push, you know, going out there,

1235
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 5: like especially now coaching, I get to explain like, okay, well,

1236
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 5: why do you throw the jab this direction? Why do

1237
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 5: you put your weight here? Why does that set up

1238
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 5: the elbow this direction? Why does that open up the

1239
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 5: hips here? Why does this do this? Why do you

1240
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 5: expose here? So just pushing that part I'm very much

1241
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 5: in love with, so I think sometimes so immersed with

1242
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 5: that that sit back and kind of think of like

1243
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 5: what am I bringing to the world, Like, well, I

1244
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 5: don't know, but I love doing this every day, you know,

1245
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 5: and I get to go and train people and hang

1246
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 5: out and we talk about fighting everyboe sit on the

1247
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 5: ground like, well, hey, did you see the ghost escape.

1248
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, yeah, well hold on.

1249
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 5: You know, if I coached Chris and was one of

1250
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 5: my students, you know, just yesterday's like, oh have you

1251
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 5: seen them?

1252
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 4: Show me his choke is. He loves going on in

1253
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: there and seeing different moves.

1254
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 5: So if you've ever seen this, it's called the buggy

1255
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 5: Choke's now well here, lay down, let me show you.

1256
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 5: Do you ever use it? Like, well, I don't because

1257
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 5: of them in May purposes. This is why, you know,

1258
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 5: I'm like a pure grapping match. Yeah, if that guy

1259
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 5: could pick you up and slam you on the back

1260
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 5: of your head, no, you know, like you know, and

1261
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 5: so uh, I guess maybe my legacy right now, even

1262
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 5: just you know, speaking out loud or hear myself, you know,

1263
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 5: is bringing in a much more complete game of into May,

1264
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 5: where jiu jitsu and boxing and resting all really mold

1265
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 5: to each other. I think too many people have just

1266
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 5: specialized and divided, and even now sometimes in the striking ring,

1267
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 5: you know, like sometimes I watch you in the May flight,

1268
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 5: so it looks like a just looks like bad kickboxing,

1269
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 5: you know, whereas I like the idea of you know,

1270
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 5: the enveloped three see guys, that they're able to kick, punch,

1271
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 5: shoot on each other, take each other now, Demetrius Johnson

1272
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 5: type of fight.

1273
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 3: Frank, you're going to be closing out your great career

1274
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: under the UFL banner, your daughter on the card. But

1275
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: I heard you mentioned some really key points if you

1276
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: follow the MMA headlines these days about fighter treatment and

1277
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: what that promotion can bring. How realistic is all the

1278
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: things that we know this sport needs, all the things

1279
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 3: that Francis and Ghanu mentioned and why he wanted to

1280
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: leave the UFC recently. How realistic across the board in

1281
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 3: the UFL and elsewhere can we see that happen without

1282
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: some type of major work stoff it.

1283
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 4: I think all you do is that to give people

1284
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 4: an alternative.

1285
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 5: If you look at any industry in the world, if

1286
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 5: anybody complains about well, I think that the automobile industry

1287
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 5: is this, or I think that this sector is this.

1288
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 5: The minute you give somebody a better alternative, they can

1289
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 5: go into the rot. That's why you know, obviously monopolies

1290
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 5: are illegal because they realized, well, they.

1291
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: Stunt the growth of a section or a sector of.

1292
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 5: Industry because if you have somebody who just sit there

1293
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 5: and avoid competition, so by going out there and giving

1294
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 5: a legitimate competitive alternative that actually is legitimate, is I think,

1295
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 5: really the step and fixing this. You know, I think

1296
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 5: I've heard people talk about doing unions. I look at

1297
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 5: the practicality of that actually occurring, and I don't see

1298
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 5: it very high. Right now, I see that what Harrison

1299
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 5: Rodgers is doing with the UFL is actually to be

1300
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: very high somebody who's already wealthy, who isn't really trying

1301
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 5: to do this.

1302
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 4: To make a living, you know.

1303
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 5: Basically, you know, Harrison doesn't want to lose what he's do,

1304
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 5: you know, the fortune that he's created.

1305
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 4: But at the same time, sit there and go, Okay,

1306
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 4: I don't need to This isn't for me to get rich.

1307
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 4: This is for me to.

1308
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 5: Give back to the sport that I that I'm also

1309
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 5: a fan of and help and obviously you know, not

1310
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 5: go backwards financially. But then I can open up the

1311
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 5: doors and show that Okay, well, now if you're sharing

1312
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 5: more with the fighters, if you're you know, you know,

1313
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 5: for example, you know already is overheads more just by

1314
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 5: doing the insurance, having all of our fighters ensure the

1315
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 5: minute they come in and fight. And that's because Quinton myself.

1316
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 5: If we sit there and we talked to him, like,

1317
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 5: you know, you know, what are some of the plants

1318
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 5: you have? I'm like, well, here's the something. You know,

1319
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 5: fighters in most of the leagues deal with this all

1320
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 5: the time. You sit there, you go, all that guy

1321
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 5: showed up to the fight, he was injured. Why do

1322
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 5: you do that, Well, because they'll pay for the surgery

1323
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 5: if he makes it to the fight. Wouldn't be nice

1324
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 5: if the guy had insurance leading up to the fight

1325
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 5: the whole time, whether he had to, you know, just

1326
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 5: whatever injury had to even if it was minor, he

1327
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 5: would then go to the doctor, get it checked out

1328
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 5: and maybe it's something that could be addressed with some

1329
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 5: physical therapy, some rest ice to statement and lay off

1330
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 5: of this and it won't be so severe. Instead of

1331
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 5: heighten this and then in the next eight weeks you

1332
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 5: make it so bad that now it.

1333
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 4: Is only way to fix the surgery.

1334
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 5: So that alone just one thing that we tried to

1335
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 5: fix and see that as a problem and have been

1336
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 5: able to do. So it's no longer now just like hey,

1337
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 5: this is what we're going to do. It's actually reality.

1338
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: Frank, if you were King of Mma, for a day,

1339
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: one day, and you can make one change. What would

1340
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: it be? Could be to the industry, could be to

1341
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 2: the rule set anything.

1342
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: Oh well, yeah, there's rule sets i'd like to change.

1343
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 4: I think. I think on the promotion side, i'd make

1344
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 4: it completely.

1345
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 5: Completely apparent, you know, like for example, like you didn't

1346
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 5: have a league goes out there.

1347
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 4: Whatever they make, it has to be shown, you know.

1348
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 5: I like, there is no hiding, there is no there's

1349
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 5: no assumptions of what they give the fighters of what

1350
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 5: they're making. I think clarity would would help out. And

1351
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 5: obviously there's people that don't like that idea because you know,

1352
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 5: it's just like the whole idea that like, you know,

1353
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 5: if I get a phone call, so it says, hey Frank,

1354
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 5: we need you to come out here and do an

1355
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 5: autograph section. Okay, cool, you know, and Quentin or somebody

1356
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 5: I know, Tito, Randy's been there before, Like, hey man.

1357
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 4: What do you make?

1358
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 5: They tell me so that I know, okay, this company

1359
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 5: is about this level this case. I have an ideal. Now,

1360
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 5: in most places, most business owners look down on that,

1361
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 5: which they'll try to.

1362
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 4: Make a scene.

1363
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 5: It's illegal to do so, but don't talk about what

1364
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 5: you make, don't say this, and then fighters don't understand

1365
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 5: what to ask with, like well until they, you know,

1366
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 5: release the show money. But I don't know what backdoor

1367
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 5: money this guy's making because the knowledge you have unless

1368
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 5: you can really make an argument for what you deserve it.

1369
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 5: So I think clarity in the sport will be the

1370
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 5: one thing I bring. So a promotion could have, you know.

1371
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 5: And then that being said, I guess you know, to

1372
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 5: add on to the share of what the fighters make

1373
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 5: compared to what the promotion. I would like to do

1374
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: more like what the NFL does, you know, with a

1375
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 5: certain percentage of what the company, you know, the promotion

1376
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 5: is allowed to take and the rest has to go

1377
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 5: back to the fighters.

1378
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: I think it'd be changed. That is long overdue. Obviously.

1379
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 2: It will be August twelfth. It will be Frank Mehir

1380
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: on the card. We don't know yet the opponent. His

1381
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: daughter Bellamir will be on the card. It'll be cornering

1382
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: each other, they'll be fighting on the same card. It's

1383
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: a hell of a moment in your career, Frank. We

1384
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: are glad we got the opportunity to talk to you

1385
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: about it. Now you've had one unbelievable career. Whether you know,

1386
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: maybe you're satisfied with certain portions of it, but certainly

1387
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: from the spectator side, man, we got a lot and

1388
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: we'll really appreciate of it and can't wait to see

1389
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: what happens on August twelfth.

1390
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, guys, Thanks thanks.

1391
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 2: Frank Mer the legend, the champion, and a whole lot more.

1392
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: Hey, can we get him on the couch one day, Luke.

1393
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 3: I got so many questions about the biggest fights he

1394
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: was in.

1395
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: I mean, the stories I bet he could tell are

1396
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: our epic. I bet you they would be. They would be.

1397
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: They would be quite dramatic. Big thanks to Frank for

1398
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: stopping by and sharing his story.

1399
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 3: Dude, Seriously, that's freaking cool to go out on his

1400
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: terms with his child on the card, Like, damn, man,

1401
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: that's a moment, you.

1402
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: Know, like, yeah, that's pretty cool. I hope he can

1403
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: get a suitable opponent, and I hope, you know, and

1404
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: I say this for his sick He probably will win,

1405
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: but I hope he doesn't get too banged up. He's

1406
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: had a lot of injuries too. I mean that just

1407
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: the uh, just the uh, the motorcycle accident obviously, he

1408
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: was able to come back very successfully from that. But

1409
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: you know, hey, man, we were born in the same year.

1410
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I know I have some idea.

1411
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: Well, you're different, you can do Yeah, you're different levels

1412
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: of athletes. I don't know if you had the horse

1413
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 3: power with the technique. No, no, no, no.

1414
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: I didn't have neither the technique nor the horsepower. We

1415
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: are very different people. But I just mean, hey, dude,

1416
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: forty four years on this planet will age anyone. Let

1417
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: me just be very clear when right BC. With that

1418
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: in mind, let's go to the topic that I know

1419
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: you care most about on this one, BKFC.

1420
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: Forty because you said you said pretty good card. Let's

1421
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 3: be honest, Luke. They don't always get it right. They

1422
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 3: try hard in different ways. But bkfc's on a decent

1423
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: momentum run lately of taking chances. MVP versus Mike Perry

1424
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 3: was a big part of that. Dude, this is not

1425
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 3: a good card. Pretty good card for BKFC terms, Luke,

1426
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: this is musty TV. This is great. Get get fired

1427
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: up for this one. BKFC forty one. Was that Friday

1428
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: or Saturday night?

1429
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: I should probably get Yeah, while you get the night.

1430
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: Let me just ask you about the place that BKFC

1431
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: fills now in MMA, because look at who's on this

1432
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: card right as you mentioned Perry versus Rock holding your

1433
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: main event. You spoke to both, and then we'll have

1434
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: some audio of them in just a second. Eddie Alvarez

1435
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: taking on Chad Mendez, Beck Rawlings taking on Christine uh Farrea.

1436
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: That's I believe both kind of thought significant amounts of

1437
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: yeah of BKFC before Chris Comosi versus Daniel Spawn. I

1438
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: believe both of those are UFC vets. Brandon Gertz, Bellator Vett.

1439
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 2: You go down the list, Ben Rothwells on it, Mark

1440
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: Mike Alvarado's on it. There's just a lot of former

1441
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: MMA fighters on here, especially some with some big names.

1442
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: It seems to me like a lot of these names

1443
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: would have gone some of them did go to one

1444
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: in the case of Diavarez, a lot of them would

1445
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: have ended up in Bellatour, And now it looks to

1446
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: me like Bellatour is looking a little bit more internally

1447
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: to promote some of the younger guys, and these tournaments

1448
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: have been really good for that. Do you agree that

1449
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: they've kind of they've really altered a little bit of

1450
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: the post UFC marketplace for MMA promotions, and they've taken

1451
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: a good chunk of that business.

1452
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely they and they stay consistent during a time when

1453
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: there's big ebbs and flows with the crossover circus bubble

1454
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: of boxing that we're seeing from the Paul Brothers to

1455
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 3: you know, Mike Tyson coming back to like the idea

1456
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: of oh, there's more paychecks available in big events. Well,

1457
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 3: BKFC has stayed right there in that conversation throughout. And two,

1458
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 3: it's weird, Luke. We sometimes look at going from the

1459
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: top of the top of elite pro boxer in the

1460
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 3: UFC or whatever into BKFC as what I used to

1461
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 3: call the last stop in combat sports, right that gnarly

1462
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 3: you know, it's the only rest stop, Luke, in one

1463
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 3: hundred miles in either direction. So you got to deal

1464
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: with the cleanliness in there. Only to the fighters they

1465
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 3: seem to be. They seem to be what's the word

1466
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: I'm looking for, Luke Boyd by this buoyed by this

1467
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 3: boie because they're not afraid of the gnarliness, because they're

1468
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: warriors and true fighters at the end of the day.

1469
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of them. Look at Okay,

1470
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go in there fight somebody who's probably not

1471
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 3: as skilled as I am in general, or fight another former,

1472
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 3: you know, big name, and like in the case of

1473
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 3: these two UFC versus UFC fighter fights, and I'm gonna

1474
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 3: make the best money of my career, because Luke, that's

1475
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: what they're saying across the board, like Mike Perry's talking

1476
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 3: about the idea of like I'm making career best money

1477
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: every time out now, and they're treated with, you know,

1478
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 3: a certain amount of respect that they're looking for. This

1479
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: has become not the only port in the storm, Luke,

1480
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 3: but a desirable one. And you know, like not everything

1481
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 3: BKFC does. I'm like, man, this was the coolest shit,

1482
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 3: but this card on paper Saturday Night, Colorado. I think

1483
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 3: you can get the pay per view on the fight app.

1484
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 3: I kind of have to see it. From Ben Rothwell

1485
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 3: to Mike Alverado, as you mentioned all the way through

1486
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 3: all those names, dude, I kind of have to see this.

1487
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't tell me you don't care about

1488
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 3: Eddie Alvarez versus Chad Mendis in a bare knuckle boxing fight.

1489
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 3: You just can't tell me you don't care about that.

1490
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: No, I definitely not. I would not say I don't

1491
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: care about it. I mean, it's hard to know exactly

1492
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: what it all means right now. Right we don't really

1493
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: know the state of Eddie's career as it currently stands.

1494
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: Long in the tooth, Chad had looked pretty good in

1495
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 2: his previous BKFC outing, So, uh, it's not that I

1496
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: don't Yeah, I mean, they're they're definitely worth seeing. It's

1497
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: just they're just weird, man, They're just weird fighting.

1498
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 3: Well, there's nothing weirder than Mike Perry versus Luke rock

1499
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: Hold in all the right ways, and Luke, would you

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01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 3: agree that something I talked to Mike Perry about when

1501
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: we don't have quotes on this or sound on this

1502
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 3: specific one, but dude, like he's actually kind of becoming

1503
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: the face of BKFC. Like he's more perfect for this

1504
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: in a crossover since than any other boxer or MMA

1505
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 3: transition that we've seen up to this point.

1506
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: He might be. I think if he wins this, he

1507
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: might ascend to that. I don't know if he isn't

1508
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: right at this stage, although he does obviously have that

1509
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: big win that you heard the question. I watched the interview.

1510
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: The question you asked him was right, Like he just

1511
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 2: outdogged MVP. I think this rule set really fits him.

1512
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: Do you go there and you beat a guy who

1513
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 2: fought at two hundred and five pounds, especially if he

1514
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: like stuns him and blows him away, Yeah, he might.

1515
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: He might ascend to that very revered position. So Bacie,

1516
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: let me ask you this question, Mike Perry versus Luke Rockold.

1517
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: What's on the line here? Is it just the face

1518
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 2: of the promotion for Mike?

1519
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: What's really Mike it is? It is that for whatever

1520
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 3: that means, and that probably means, like, like the whole

1521
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 3: idea is like, can Mike be a legitimate star doing

1522
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 3: this where like, you know, I'm sure there's gonna be

1523
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 3: potential phone ringing of you know, you want to box

1524
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 3: on on game Bread's card or Pete's card, you want

1525
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 3: to fight, you know something else on a lower level MMA,

1526
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: but like this is probably where he can make the

1527
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: most money and be carried kind of like a star.

1528
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 3: And Mike Perry's looking at this through the eyes of

1529
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 3: this interesting epiphany. He says he's gone through Luke a

1530
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: couple of fights ago, when he fought on Triller when

1531
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 3: they put mm man boxing together in that triangle ring

1532
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 3: and he boxed somewhat legitimate light heavyweight Michael Seals, who

1533
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 3: had big power, wasn't a great boxer, and he took

1534
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 3: big punishment did Perry, but just brawled through that and won.

1535
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 3: He claims he after that kind of just like killed

1536
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 3: that part of him that was like, man, I should

1537
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 3: be back in the UFC living up to these expectations.

1538
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 3: Once he kind of embraced you know what I do great.

1539
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: I take punches and outwork people and keep coming. Once

1540
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: he became one with the brawler in him, he said

1541
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 3: he's never been happier. He's making more money than ever before,

1542
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 3: and he's more willing to take chances against bigger guys

1543
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 3: like he did against Seals here. And obviously rock Hold

1544
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 3: fits that description because not having to cut weight, he

1545
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 3: comes in really strong, eating steak, happy as can be,

1546
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 3: and he feels at the end of the day that

1547
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: that transition from the other sports to this is not

1548
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 3: going to be easy for everybody. First time that he

1549
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 3: can go in there against somebody like rock Hole getting

1550
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 3: his chest and in this rule set beat them so

1551
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: it's really interesting from that regard. So you say, well,

1552
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 3: what's it for lock Ruckle, Well, it's a big payday,

1553
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: but it's also the potential promise of more for one

1554
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 3: or both of these guys, right, because this could be

1555
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 3: some fun brawl where you want to see them both

1556
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 3: again where there is a decent amount of money to

1557
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 3: be made in this space as a pay per view headliner.

1558
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 3: So there's no title on the line here, but it

1559
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 3: does feel like we're it's a little bit of that

1560
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: like fuck Around All Star Game, MTV Rock and Jock Field,

1561
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 3: but it's also going to be a very real fight

1562
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 3: for very big money compared to what they're used to

1563
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 3: that this might be at the moment the best representation

1564
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: we have of like post UFC career but can still

1565
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: fight and have some fun. And I never thought i'd

1566
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 3: say that with the bare knuckle rules, which obviously can

1567
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 3: give people pause and even me at times, Luke, But

1568
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 3: unless Zoofa comes around and makes a boxing league for

1569
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: retired UFC folks where they're getting paid and treated, well,

1570
01:06:58,400 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: this might be the best thing going at the moment,

1571
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 3: and if you're willing to do it.

1572
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 2: We got a few pieces of audio i'd like to play.

1573
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: We'll start one with the basic one, which is just

1574
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: Perry's thoughts on fighting Luke Rockold and see what you

1575
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 2: have to say.

1576
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 3: If you look at this and say, Okay, maybe he

1577
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 3: is big, but does he have the same dog inside

1578
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 3: him that I have? Because Mike, I watched you beat

1579
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 3: Michael venim Page and you outdogged him.

1580
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 6: You know, I am looking to continue to be myself.

1581
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 6: There was a time when I taught strategies and then

1582
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 6: I tried techniques and I tried, you know, to build

1583
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 6: a game plan. And I don't know if it was

1584
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 6: the Triller fight or just coming into Bare Knuckle. I

1585
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 6: mean I signed with Bare Knuckle and then I had

1586
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 6: the Triller fight. But it was around that time that

1587
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 6: I told myself to give in to who I am

1588
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 6: and what it.

1589
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: Is that I do well.

1590
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 4: And damn it, I'm.

1591
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 6: Really good at taking punk to the face and and

1592
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 6: I try to you know, I'm staying there for it,

1593
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 6: and I'm I'm not you know, when people hit me,

1594
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 6: I'm trying to hit you back. I'm gonna hit you

1595
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 6: back regardless of how you hit me. I'm coming to

1596
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 6: hit you back. And you know I'm gonna try to

1597
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 6: be first and I'm gonna try to be last.

1598
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 3: Look, I didn't expect to get a deep, introspective Perry,

1599
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 3: but he would go on talking about that epiphany to say,

1600
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 3: to kind of share his inner mantras of switching from

1601
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 3: negative based self talk to more positive base of instead

1602
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 3: of don't quit, he's not telling himself go. And he says,

1603
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 3: as long as he can silence and kill that inner

1604
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 3: bitch that comes up inside of him every day, the

1605
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 3: same one he says that's in all of us, that

1606
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 3: you know, forces us to talk our way out of

1607
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 3: working out, and that kind of thing that ever since

1608
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 3: he's done that and with the birth of his children,

1609
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 3: like he's a new man. Look, he kind of feels

1610
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 3: and sounds like a new man. Did you expect to

1611
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 3: get a ted talk out of out of the real

1612
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 3: African Championaire?

1613
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you should

1614
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: have asked him, who's the real African Champion? But uh no,

1615
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: I like Mike, and I gotta tell you, like he

1616
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: looks like he's a changed man and not for the worse,

1617
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: you know, definitely not for the worse, for the better.

1618
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: And I've seen it dude. Sometimes guys get into the

1619
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: fight game they've got a lot of aggression, and they

1620
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: got a lot of issues in their life. And I'm

1621
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: not saying the fight game is the place to work

1622
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: that out, but certain guys can work that out within

1623
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: their time and their careers and they become you know,

1624
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 2: they've just become happier, more normal people. It seems like

1625
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: he's on that journey. Interestingly, though, of course, BC is

1626
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: the dimensions of this fight. Luke Rockell. As we've indicated,

1627
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: Taller Longer, fought at two o five and did not

1628
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: look small at two of five. Perry has brought in

1629
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: some interesting training partners for this one to get ready

1630
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: for it. Here's what he told you what was going

1631
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:43,879
Speaker 2: to be a little bit different.

1632
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 3: This time when this rack Hold fight got announced. This

1633
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 3: is like gas station food, man, I can't avoid it.

1634
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 3: I need this fight in my life. What made you

1635
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 3: sign the dotted line?

1636
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 4: Ah?

1637
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 6: Man? It excited me as well. Facing a former world

1638
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 6: champion up await class. I really get to test my

1639
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 6: skills in boxing and my speed, and you know, and

1640
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 6: it's bare knuckle, like you said, you know, I've been

1641
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 6: I wanted a name. It was like after the MVP fight,

1642
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 6: it was like, what was next?

1643
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 4: You know what?

1644
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 6: What was something that brings me up from here?

1645
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 4: And you know this is it.

1646
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 6: It's a former UFC World champion who's also fought at

1647
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 6: light heavyweight, and I had the perfect training partners for it.

1648
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 4: It all kind of came together.

1649
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 6: I've been working with Leoto Macheetah.

1650
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: Right. We didn't get too much into it from this clip,

1651
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: but Leoto Macheta is a great addition. He says he's

1652
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: been around the gym and he worked with him. Dude,

1653
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, like, we'll do okay bet on Friday.

1654
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 2: I like Perry's chances here, man, I really do. I

1655
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: think this is a bad fight in many ways for

1656
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: Luke rock Hold.

1657
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 3: Could be I mean Mike about that. It seemed like

1658
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 3: there was, you know, Luke's own epiphany that we talked

1659
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 3: about when he when he was in there against Paula Costa, right,

1660
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 3: And Mike didn't look at that as like, oh, yeah,

1661
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: he figured out how to be gnarly. He looked at

1662
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 3: it more like yeah, but it was. It was raw

1663
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 3: and embarrassing and it came in a losing effort. So

1664
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: you know, Mike didn't look at the smearing of blood

1665
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 3: on Paula Coasta by Luke as sort of this awakened

1666
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 3: the beast. He literally thinks this guy's a bitch and

1667
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 3: he's gonna come in there and get in his chest

1668
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 3: to knock him out. And you know what, look he

1669
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 3: might but that that is a tall order body weight

1670
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 3: class wise.

1671
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 2: Yes it is. By the way, you spoke to Luke

1672
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: Rockold about this and like why did he take this fight?

1673
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 2: Which is weird on his end as well.

1674
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 3: This is what he told you when when you get

1675
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 3: a phone call and they're like main event, Mike Perry,

1676
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess attractive financial options. You can't pass this

1677
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 3: up right, you just.

1678
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 2: Can't done deal.

1679
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 4: I liked it. I liked it a lot from the beginning.

1680
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 7: I was talking to everybody and there's interesting offeras everywhere,

1681
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 7: but bare knuckle. I think it's is there something so

1682
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 7: pure about it and it's the you know, it's the

1683
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 7: essence of combat, and it's fucking just it's wild, it's

1684
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 7: fucking on the rise. It's something different, and it's it's

1685
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 7: a challenge and it's and it's Mike fucking Perry, this

1686
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 7: little fucking punk.

1687
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 4: I love him put my hands on it.

1688
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 3: Is there any history? I don't think you two have

1689
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 3: ever crossed paths? What what do we got here?

1690
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 4: No, there's no history, no history. It's just you know,

1691
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 4: Mike Perry is one of those guys that you want

1692
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 4: to punch in the face. I'm sure people feel the

1693
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 4: same about me. Sure he feels the same about me.

1694
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: Luke, we're also one of those guys.

1695
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, in some cases. Yeah, although I'm a lot

1696
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 3: taller than people think I am because I have this

1697
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 3: really fat head apparently in face. Luke, look, you've been

1698
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 3: your dms have been mislabeled before for Luke Rockold's and

1699
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 3: that must have been, you know, a spectacular hour of

1700
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: your life. But he's a very good looking X model.

1701
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 3: Why is he now looking like a homeless drifter?

1702
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's It looks like he's trying to like not

1703
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: be pretty as much as possible.

1704
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 3: And trying to get gnarly and rugged, you know what

1705
01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 3: I mean.

1706
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I put himself in that mind state. But

1707
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: in all seriousness, like if Luke Rockel goes out there

1708
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 2: and then stuns on Mike Perry. Were making this about

1709
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: the Mike Perry Show. But Luke rock Hold could I

1710
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: mean he probably, like let me ask you, you don't

1711
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: have to give your bet away. But like Luke rock

1712
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: Hold should be the favorite.

1713
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 3: Right, I guess he should be Mike. And the theory

1714
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 3: is gonna be this is gonna be the better for

1715
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 3: what this sport is. He's got more experience. It falls

1716
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 3: more into his you know, and you also have to

1717
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 3: factor in like the whole you know, they could break

1718
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 3: their fist, yeah, I mean you could break your fist

1719
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: anytime you throw one in here. I mean there's a

1720
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 3: lot of variables. Cuts can get in the way. It

1721
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 3: might be more of a picklem on paper. Given Mike's

1722
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: history and that he's perfect for this. But do you

1723
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 3: think if I mean, let's say Luke rock Hold goes

1724
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 3: out there and knocks him out, is he like suddenly

1725
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 3: in the uh the Nate Jake Ksi like sweepsteaks too.

1726
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: Oh man, I didn't even think about that.

1727
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got good size for that is what

1728
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm really trying to say.

1729
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: He I don't know how big KSI is. How big

1730
01:13:59,160 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: is KSI?

1731
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 3: I think he's right around the in the one seventies,

1732
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: like like Jake is cutting down to these days, you know.

1733
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it would all have to be at

1734
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: middleweight one eighty five. But the Jake thing could work. Yeah,

1735
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: if he goes up there and puts it on Mike Perry,

1736
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: it's possible. Yeah, you could do it. You could do it. Plus,

1737
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 2: Luke's not that old. He's not like a forty plus fighter.

1738
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't think so, you know you, Oh, it's got

1739
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: a you know, well, Nate's gonna be thirty eight, But

1740
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: that's pretty close to I'm just pointing out, Yes, he

1741
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: could enter those it's an interesting point. Yes, he could

1742
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 2: enter those sweepstakes. But I'll say this much, I think

1743
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 2: this is very winnable in either direction for different reasons. Yeah.

1744
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: But Mike Perry, He's got the most unbelievable dog in

1745
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: this fight. I don't think there's any question about that.

1746
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: Although Luke Rocolds I think got some he's got size,

1747
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 2: he's got reach, he's got experience on Perry in terms

1748
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: of overall combat experience. But Mike Perry, Man, you know,

1749
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 2: Luke Rocold's got I don't think he's got the chin

1750
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: he once relied on. And Mike Perry can fucking thump dude.

1751
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.

1752
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 3: He can thumb what do we think the four of

1753
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 3: these guys are making? Would you guess the four UFC

1754
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 3: names that signed up for this, Eddie Alvaz and Chad

1755
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 3: Mendez included.

1756
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: Hard to say exactly what they're making as headliners. I'm

1757
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: gonna guess that they're probably in the five hundred k

1758
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: or more.

1759
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 3: I mean, Luke Rockold's been in a main event of

1760
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 3: a pay per view title fight. What do you think

1761
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 3: he may but he may have only made three four

1762
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 3: hundred thousand.

1763
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: For that, right, And I bet on the back end,

1764
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: I bet, I bet you know, I've he probably made

1765
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: a million or two in that role. So yeah, around

1766
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 2: two million, I would probably say for something like that.

1767
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 3: Mike Perry ain't making that in the past, So this

1768
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 3: is good for him. That's what I'm happy.

1769
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm happy. That is exactly right. Mike Perry is. Mike

1770
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 2: Perry has found I honestly believe this, especially dude, if

1771
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: he wins on Saturday or whatever the fight is, if

1772
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: he wins it, this is especially true. He has found

1773
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 2: the very best niche for himself, where the style in

1774
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: which he fights translates really well to this particular dimension.

1775
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 2: The bare knuckle dimension where the ring is shorter, you

1776
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: start right on top of each other, you know. I

1777
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: mean there's all kinds of circumstances there where it favors

1778
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: him where uh you know, and he's he's a crazy fighter,

1779
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: and he's got this dynamic attraction. This is about the

1780
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: most perfect spot for him. And he's in his relative youth.

1781
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: He's got miles on him obviously, but he's got relative

1782
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 2: youth on his side too. He didn't start doing this,

1783
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 2: you know at thirty five years of age. Dude, Mike

1784
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: Perry's got something cooking here. If he can get a

1785
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 2: win on Saturday, he really does. Shouts to Mike Perry,

1786
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: I think he's finally figured out. Dude. All I got

1787
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 2: to do is figure out what works for you in

1788
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: your life. It makes you happy. Yeah, and that's only like, yeah,

1789
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: a lot closer. Yeah.

1790
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 3: And and him and I, Luke, you would have to

1791
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 3: say we have made a very redemptive arc cap in

1792
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 3: here in terms of our personal relationships with each other,

1793
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 3: Me and me and the Platinum one.

1794
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: Yes, you have, by the way, just to get the

1795
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 2: age right, Mike, thank Perry thirty one thirty one, So

1796
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: that's great. Luke rock Hold thirty eight and a half,

1797
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 2: so he's almost You know, we talked about being under

1798
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: forty for an opponent for Jake. That might not happen. Here,

1799
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 2: that might not happen.

1800
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is that is interesting. I remember Perry changed

1801
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 3: customs and really was a trendsetter in having coach Littori

1802
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 3: step in to encourage him that time. If he put

1803
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 3: Ocean in the corner this early, would you have issues

1804
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 3: with that?

1805
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems a little bit too much pressure for

1806
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 2: the young' but you know life, frankmir All things in

1807
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: due time, right, All things in due time? All right?

1808
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: We see real quickly this comin event now for folks

1809
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: who don't know the weight, it's a one sixty five

1810
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 2: pound catch. What your main event will be at one

1811
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 2: eighty five five rounds, two minutes each. Eddie Alvarez taking

1812
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: on Chad Mendez. Chad Mendez enters this contest thirty seven

1813
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 2: years of age. He had a bare knuckle fight in

1814
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. In a year ago. I look at

1815
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 2: against Joshua Alvarez. He takes on Eddie Alvarez, who BC Popquaz,

1816
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: how old is Eddie Alvarez?

1817
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say thirty nine, thirty nine.

1818
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: He's thirty nine years of age. He enters this contest

1819
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 2: losing to this dude name ray Yun Oak from one

1820
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: on TNT four. I watched about. It was a bit

1821
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: back and forth. He had his moments and he didn't.

1822
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: Here's the thing for me, he's thirty nine years of age.

1823
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 2: Chad Mendez looks to be a very healthy thirty seven.

1824
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 2: I think we could put it that way. And also,

1825
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: like dude, Eddie Alvarez, slow starter and Chad Mendez big,

1826
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: big puncher, even for featherweight. Remember folks don't remember this.

1827
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 2: Uh he put Alexander Volkanowski on his ass with a

1828
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 2: punch that Vulkanowski had to rally from and he did

1829
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: because he's Volkanovski. But hello, this dude can fucking thumb.

1830
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 2: What are you expecting here?

1831
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's an interesting matchup, not just name

1832
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 3: versus name, but the idea of who's a little bit

1833
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 3: more shop worn, or the idea of a one punch

1834
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 3: could could could end the fight. I think Eddie at

1835
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 3: this point luke, but he is a lot bigger than Chad.

1836
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 3: Chad's got the potential edge and the experience of having

1837
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 3: actually fought in there. And you know, I also have

1838
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 3: an interview with Chad Mendez you could check on YouTube

1839
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 3: dot com slash Morning Combat where he talks specifically about

1840
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 3: how different that fighting cage is or the ring which

1841
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 3: is a circular ring. But Luke, those those corner posts

1842
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 3: come so far in that that's a pretty tight circle

1843
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 3: in the end that you're that you're fighting in and

1844
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 3: there is an adjustment period in there. So you know,

1845
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 3: do you know the odds outright? Because I kind of

1846
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 3: feel like the smaller but maybe fresher Chad Mendez, who's

1847
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 3: got a little bit edge of an experience, does that

1848
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 3: outweigh the size difference? It just might in this one

1849
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 3: because sometimes in this sport, the truth the things you

1850
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: think will happen won't. And and you know, remember when

1851
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 3: Polly boxta Ardam lobob and it was like way more

1852
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 3: competitive than it should have been.

1853
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't find any I cannot find any odds

1854
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: for this contest. I found one for his last contest

1855
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 2: against Joshua Alvarez. He was a minus five hundred favorite,

1856
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 2: But that's not that's not Eddie Alvarez by ea stretch

1857
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 2: of the imagination.

1858
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 3: So what Chad agreed with me in the interview though,

1859
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 3: Luke that if you had to eat horse meat, like

1860
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 3: you know, there's a big industry, a hush hush industry

1861
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 3: in Japan for this right now where ex champion race sources,

1862
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 3: you know, get sold in their old years to be

1863
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 3: slaughtered for very expensive horse meat. That if I'm going

1864
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 3: down that road, Luke, if I'm gonna take that swing,

1865
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 3: I want to eat a champion, you know, I don't

1866
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 3: want some like oh that dirt that was Joe Bob.

1867
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 3: He you know, he never quite made it as you know,

1868
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 3: as a racer and he just ships himself in the

1869
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 3: corner like dude, I want secretariat or his kids. If

1870
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to go there, Well.

1871
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you I try not to eat as

1872
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 2: much animal meat as I once did. I still eat

1873
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: some obviously. Uh. You know when you think about what

1874
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: kind of animals you would and wouldn't eat and for

1875
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 2: what reason. There's actually a famous book on this, like

1876
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: why we why we love dogs eat or eat, eat

1877
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 2: chickens and wear cows or something like that where they

1878
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 2: guess would have get into how people can just sort

1879
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 2: of make up reasons for why they eat sort of

1880
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: animals and don't eat others. But when I was in

1881
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: Spain once, man, I saw them like slaughtering a pig

1882
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: in the window, and the pig was already dead. Hold on,

1883
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 2: it was first of all, it gets worse. It was

1884
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 2: a pig let, It was a baby pig, and then

1885
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: they pulled meat out of its face to eat. This

1886
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: is like that time that let me ask you a question.

1887
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 3: Would you described to be heading? You described to be

1888
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 3: heading over dinner and graphic detail, and we were all

1889
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 3: supposed to be okay with it. Remember that weird night

1890
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 3: in Vegas?

1891
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: Would you would you eat a baby pig's face?

1892
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 3: Especially after I watched it die? Luke, I know how

1893
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 3: I was.

1894
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 2: It was already dead. You didn't watch it slaughter, You

1895
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 2: just watched it, Butcher, you just watched it.

1896
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 3: I know how I was made. Do I want to

1897
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 3: watch it happen? No, Luke?

1898
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 4: No?

1899
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 3: Right? Okay, Like I dude, I can only eat beef

1900
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 3: like once a month because of my liver, Luke. But

1901
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 3: when I do, I'm not thinking about how it got here. Okay,

1902
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 3: this is disgusting, but you would agree with me, right, easygoer.

1903
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 3: Sunday silence, put them between the bread. If we're in Japan, right,

1904
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 3: hy hop Right, let's find out. I mean, they're beautiful animals.

1905
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 3: It must taste great, less filling.

1906
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: I hate sea biscuit by the sea with some biscuits.

1907
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1908
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 3: I score award winning meat. Yes, I'm with you on that.

1909
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oscar award winning meat boy. Somebody clip that out.

1910
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a fun little phrase to circle back to.

1911
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 3: Hey do you do you do you agree with Brendan

1912
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 3: Shab that Ryn Garcia was injured?

1913
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: So didn't you see that video that came out from that,

1914
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 2: Like I think he's like Mongolian or Uzbek, like five

1915
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 2: spots the mole And he was the one who was like,

1916
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 2: yeah I heard him to the body and sporring. What

1917
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: do you make I mean, I guess I don't know. No.

1918
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 3: I mean, first, I think you can either answer this

1919
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 3: question by saying every fighter is injured in some capacity

1920
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 3: heading into a big fight. True. No, I didn't see

1921
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 3: evidence of an injury, Luke. I just think he got

1922
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Speaker 3: handled by a better fighter.

1923
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Speaker 2: Degree I think he I think he just got beat.

1924
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Speaker 2: I think he just got beat.

1925
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Speaker 3: But do you see like there's a lot in boxing.

1926
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Speaker 3: I think Carl Frampton was just on Aerial Show the

1927
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: other day and was like, oh, yeah, Ryan quit. And

1928
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 3: did you see those quotes that are making the rounds

1929
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 3: on Instagram that we're attributed to Julio Sayzar Javas Senior

1930
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 3: that basically say that I never wants Ryan fight again, like,

1931
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 3: you know, as if he violated some sort of like

1932
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 3: deep Mexican man code. That was interesting as well.

1933
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 2: This, well, this is why these guys like do everything

1934
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: they can to avoid the appearance of quitting if they

1935
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: if they you know, if they can help it, because.

1936
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 3: People want to shoot at them and be like, oh you.

1937
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 2: A beachlash, you know. And again it's like, if you

1938
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: think that that means he quits in future fights, I

1939
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: can't say that he won't. You know, I don't know that,

1940
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: but I know this. The fact that he handled that

1941
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 2: loss the way he did does not, in any way

1942
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 2: in my mind, tell me he'll do that again. It

1943
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 2: could very much be a one off that you'll just

1944
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 2: have to you'll have to wait. And he just never

1945
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: faced a puncher like that either, dude, Like, I think

1946
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 2: that was a fucking wake up call in real time

1947
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,879
Speaker 2: anything else from this car besides the main and Comaine

1948
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: and beck Wallin's Christine Farrea, Chris Commos.

1949
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 3: That's a title fight Forrea beat beat Britton Hart Luke

1950
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 3: who I think I've split with Joey Belchi. And there's

1951
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 3: a lot of cummings and goings in relationships, Like didn't

1952
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 3: you want to just get engaged? Or was that an

1953
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: Instagram hoax?

1954
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 2: I our producer said it around. I thought it was

1955
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 2: a hoax.

1956
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 3: Because Arlene Blenco just got engaged to Lucal. You know,

1957
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 3: there's always you hang around. There's always cummings and goings

1958
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 3: in these circles, Okay, or maybe married?

1959
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean either way, I don't really care. BC.

1960
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 2: Brandon Gertz hilariously, hilariously one of these MMA fighters is

1961
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: like one of these like wrestle boxers. I just want

1962
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 2: to point out, like BKFC knows which fighters they want

1963
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 2: and which ones don't. Brandon Gerth is like a great,

1964
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: great call for them. I think that one fits really well.

1965
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: And then of course Ben Roth will take it on

1966
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: Josh Copland. I think Josh Copland, by the way, also

1967
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: a former MMA fighter of memory serves.

1968
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: And did you see the guy we met at Phil

1969
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 3: Derue's Jim Jake Bostwick, who had the head tats that

1970
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 3: do you see? He fought to a draw in the

1971
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 3: last BKFC fight against Isaac Doolittle I think was the

1972
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 3: guy's name.

1973
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 2: Yes, he did, he did, and then what's his face

1974
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: lost to uh Straus? Daniel Strauss lost as well.

1975
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's still main eventing. That's interesting?

1976
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 2: Is this you slowly checking out on the rest of

1977
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 2: this card.

1978
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 3: The BCFC card.

1979
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: No, I'm here all day for it, Luke, I mean

1980
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 2: fighting at two five.

1981
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 3: This, Mike Alvarallo think could be really sad, Luke, or

1982
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 3: it could be interesting. I don't know. I mean, we

1983
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 3: haven't seen pro boxers make a good transition, right, I

1984
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 3: mean Austin Trout is here now, but it's been more

1985
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 3: MMA guys that have figured it out.

1986
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. Well, I just feel like it's a better

1987
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: fit for MMA because you just don't need as much

1988
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 2: technical superiority. You have to go, go go, you can

1989
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: use some dirty boxing tricks, right, I Mean, it's just

1990
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: it's much more MMA in many ways than it is.

1991
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 2: But it's called boxing. It should kind of be called

1992
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: like bare knuckle MMA. Minus takedowns in jiu jitsu because

1993
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: it sort of fits it a little bit more in

1994
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 2: that way.

1995
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 3: Will you subscribe to a morning combat instant reaction after

1996
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 3: this bare knuckle card on Saturday?

1997
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 2: No? No, no, I won't. I won't be doing that.

1998
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 3: What if that's what the people want, Luke? What if

1999
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 3: we can get fifty thousand signatures?

2000
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 2: You get fifty thousand signatures, I'll do it.

2001
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 3: Oh wow? Wow? If I tweet something out and get

2002
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 3: fifty thousand likes, will you?

2003
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: Uh? No?

2004
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 4: Do it?

2005
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 3: No?

2006
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 2: Fifty thousand, Like, even fifty thousand likes, I don't think

2007
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 2: you could get.

2008
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 3: But do you want to put your money where your

2009
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 3: mouth is? Luke? No, No, you want to put your

2010
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 3: moose where your knuckle is, Luke. I mean, what are

2011
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 3: we doing right now?

2012
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't want to. Uh. I don't want to

2013
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 2: tempt fate because I obviously like to have Saturday off

2014
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 2: if I can spend time with my face, even though

2015
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: I just did. But yeah, okay, that's like you.

2016
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 3: Know what I can't wait to do coming off of vacation,

2017
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 3: not work a fight? Yeah that's great.

2018
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it wasn't like I'm not super into

2019
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: BKFC number one and the UFC card is I mean,

2020
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to take out seven hours of my day

2021
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: for that, Like, no, fam, We're not doing that, all right, BC,

2022
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 2: It's time for uh we read our you know, next

2023
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: advertiser Summers around the corner, BC, and uh you know,

2024
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about using something called fit bod to get

2025
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Speaker 2: into shape for the summer months resolutions. You know what

2026
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm doing?

2027
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 3: Shit, Okay, Luke? All right.

2028
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Speaker 2: I love smart technology, how it's replacing old formats, and

2029
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Speaker 2: for good reason. Fit Bod's AI technology fits with the

2030
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2033
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Speaker 3: So well, Luke. I'll say this though, if you're a

2034
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 3: caveman who still works out in his front yard and

2035
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2036
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Speaker 3: why don't you check out the back Yeah, the fitbot app.

2037
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2043
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2049
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Speaker 3: in the game. Look, if we're talking about wash dads

2050
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Speaker 3: right now and you just want to live back your

2051
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Speaker 3: your good years, Okay, it's worth it. Let's do it.

2052
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Speaker 3: But if you're in the game right now and you're not,

2053
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, you're not doing the work

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2055
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Speaker 3: Here it is. Yeah, get on that, Luke. I love sponsorships.

2075
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Speaker 3: I love these people, right you know, right now, Luke,

2076
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 3: I'm on pure adrenaline and turk esterone right now, Okay,

2077
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Speaker 3: I want you.

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Speaker 2: To I am on. I've got the Ghost that don't

2079
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 2: sponsor us, but I've got the Ghost energy drink that

2080
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm drinking. It's got five calories apparently, so all right, well.

2081
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 3: Luke, my chest also, I have ag want here to

2082
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 3: make sure everything goes down all right, All right, there

2083
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 3: we go. Hey, we give you an email address once

2084
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 3: a week morning Coombat at gmail dot com to join

2085
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 3: our weird family. Send in your artwork, show pictures of

2086
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 3: you and your pregnant wife wearing an MK shirt and

2087
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 3: talks about how you conceive that child while we were

2088
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 3: playing in your ear roll. I mean that's a an

2089
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 3: orgy if you ask me where I come from? Right, yeah,

2090
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 3: this one's called fan submission. You've got mail fuures.

2091
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 5: You.

2092
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 3: Hey, let's start out with Saoul. Look the real Sahwol.

2093
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 3: Love that guy, he said. Hey, guys, my parents were

2094
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 3: out of town and my wife and I decided to

2095
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 3: start a new tradition and get day drunk at a

2096
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 3: dog friendly bar for Easter, said bar head.

2097
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Speaker 2: It each either either they don't have kids or what

2098
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 2: are the worst parents in America?

2099
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 3: He said. H The bar had a nisterray hunt. His

2100
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 3: wife found an egg with a beer and a shot.

2101
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 3: The bar also had a shop with local knickknacks. I

2102
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 3: saw it and I had to have it. It's a

2103
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 3: famed framed print of Louisville, Kentucky's most famous and loved son,

2104
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 3: the goat, Muhammad Ali. Very overpriced, but they gave me

2105
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 3: ten percent off for a tab of over twenty five dollars, Luke,

2106
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 3: Saoul and his Oh let's see this, what's going on here?

2107
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 2: Shot with the lemon and then he puts the PBR

2108
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 2: behind it?

2109
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 3: Is that a conda machine next to him? Is that

2110
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 3: a restroom?

2111
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 2: Looke? Wow?

2112
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,759
Speaker 3: That was great? Al right? You know Saoul?

2113
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 2: You know he just peed on himself.

2114
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully in a sink with a bunch of bikers

2115
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 3: while watching. Look, I'll tell you this, though, Saoul has

2116
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 3: been a day one merch guy for us. I think

2117
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 3: he owns everything we've sold. Like, I love that guy,

2118
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 3: you know, keep it.

2119
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:51,679
Speaker 2: I almost had a terrible joke.

2120
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna yeah, yeah, do you think he's the king

2121
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 3: of his castle? Look, he just walks around, just just hogwild.

2122
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 3: Whether there's kids, are in laws, you don't care, right,

2123
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 3: so well, you don't care.

2124
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 2: No, a man who drinks like that walks around, you know,

2125
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 2: with holes in his underwear and his balls hanging out.

2126
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, Hey, let's go over to Noel

2127
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Speaker 3: from Boston. Is that a man or a woman, Luke,

2128
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, but he says, greetings, my fellow wash

2129
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 3: Dad's nothing too creative. Here just a picture of my

2130
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:21,480
Speaker 3: daughter and I flying the MK flag with Dean Thomas

2131
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 3: and Mark Dela grat. I guess Dana White and crew

2132
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 3: were in town to film an episode of Looking for

2133
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 3: a Fight, and Dean decided to drop in on Sidy

2134
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 3: on Tongue, Boston for an MMA seminar. Being firmly entrenched

2135
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,719
Speaker 3: in my forties and an older fan of the sport,

2136
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 3: I was excited for the opportunity to meet him. He

2137
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 3: taught us all some great technique and could not have

2138
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 3: been nicer than my daughter. Love the show. I will

2139
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 3: always be appreciative for all the great content you guys provide. Hey,

2140
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 3: Luke Noel from Boston. Here, Noel, whatever this guy's name is.

2141
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 3: What a wholesome guy brings his daughter to me Dean

2142
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 3: Thomas at the gym that once made Kenny Florian a

2143
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 3: title contender.

2144
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he didn't teach him how to get

2145
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 2: a tan. I can say that with great cond Other

2146
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 2: than that.

2147
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, if that dad wants to get a tattoo

2148
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 3: on his forearm of a picture of his daughter meeting

2149
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 3: Dean Thomas and then you declare, oh, didn't have the

2150
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 3: right technique, it's like, come on, Luke, you know what

2151
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 3: I mean.

2152
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are such a thing as good tattoos and

2153
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: bad tattoos, and the sentimentality around them doesn't make them

2154
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 2: good or bad.

2155
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 3: Let mister Hebas pay tribute to his daughter. And if

2156
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 3: Luca I get that, I get that same tattoo on

2157
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 3: my farm. It's to pay the same tribute. All right,

2158
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 3: there we go, Luke. Let's go over to Andy, he says, Hey,

2159
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 3: Luke in BC. Unfortunately my time wrapping MK in South

2160
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 3: America has come to an end. But here are some

2161
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 3: closing shots. This first one machu peach you in Peru.

2162
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 3: Hell yeah.

2163
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 2: The second one is way up in the elevation.

2164
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 3: Yes, this is the Eduardo Avarroa National Reserve in South Bolivia.

2165
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 3: Look at this.

2166
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 2: We're we're doing skits some bits here with our Spanish pronunciation.

2167
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 2: Is that we're doing?

2168
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 3: I thought I know that that was actually not bidding

2169
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 3: at the moment.

2170
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 2: Which one? Which one?

2171
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 3: Edward though Alvaroa in South Bolivia.

2172
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 2: Luke, Eduardo Alvaroa.

2173
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 3: It's not like I dipped a oreo in like some

2174
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 3: you know, salsa or something. Here, Luke, Hey, let's see

2175
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 3: his third picture mansarate in Bogata. Luke, I think I

2176
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 3: got that.

2177
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been up, I've been to this place. This

2178
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 2: is the, if not the highest point in Bogota, was

2179
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 2: certainly close to it. And you can see the uh,

2180
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 2: you can see the entire well. Bogata itself is at

2181
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 2: eighty three hundred feet something like that. So this is

2182
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: even high. I mean, the elevation is the air is

2183
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 2: thin up there.

2184
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 3: The elevation at four thousand feet in Colorado kicked my

2185
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,440
Speaker 3: ass for a couple of days, but I was acclimated

2186
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 3: enough by the time I got up to like eight

2187
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 3: and ten on the drive through Colorado. But you can

2188
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 3: still feel like your chest tightening and all that. Like,

2189
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 3: what's it like in Bogota that does it? Suckle?

2190
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 2: It's hard to like get a breath and then like

2191
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, if you take a breath at sea level,

2192
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 2: like it has a satiating feel. I remember, like even

2193
01:33:58,439 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 2: when I was there last, I had a headache for

2194
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 2: two days. I like Bogata, but like do the elevation

2195
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 2: is a damn motherfucker up there, man, It's a motherfucker. Uh.

2196
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 3: Andy will close here by saying that being said, I'll

2197
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 3: be in Mexico next month. So if Luke's dad has

2198
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 3: any rental property south of the border, let me know

2199
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 3: and I can check on them for you. Cheers. It's

2200
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 3: Andy Turner. Hey, shut up to this guy, Andy, right.

2201
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 2: That was all. That was a very good thing. I

2202
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 2: accept and appreciate that. L that was good.

2203
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 3: Look, have you been to Machu Pichu?

2204
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 2: No, I've not been to Peru. I've not been to Peru.

2205
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 2: It's a thing that a lot of hipsters like to

2206
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 2: go to. They like to go up there and then

2207
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 2: check it out. I got to tell you, like, I

2208
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 2: want to go see the sites. But you know this

2209
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 2: whole part of my life where you're like you have

2210
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 2: to go camping and shit, and you got to wear

2211
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 2: camping gear to go to places like na oh?

2212
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 3: Is that is it an extreme to get there?

2213
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 2: It's not like super extreme, but it's you know, it's

2214
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 2: uh my understanding is that it's it's a little bit

2215
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 2: of rugged living when you're up that high.

2216
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 3: All right, Well, Luke speaking of potentially being willing to

2217
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 3: consummate their child on MK Live, we got a little

2218
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 3: Anthony submission right here. You know him, right, Luke, He's

2219
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 3: part of the MK family. He says, Hey, it's the

2220
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 3: Chicagoans Anthony and V checking in with a major life update.

2221
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 3: On April fourteenth, three days after my thirty third birthday,

2222
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,759
Speaker 3: we closed on our first single family home.

2223
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 2: Wow.

2224
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 3: As we promised Luke and BC last July and Vegas,

2225
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 3: we brought the MK brand with us. We are so

2226
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 3: excited for this next chapter of our life and grateful

2227
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 3: for all the love that the MK universe continues to

2228
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:43,759
Speaker 3: show us. Next stop, get married and make a baby.

2229
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 3: It's little Anthony, Luke. I couldn't. I was not able

2230
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 3: to purchase my first home until I was thirty nine,

2231
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 3: and it turned out to be one of It was

2232
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 3: like as good a feeling as you would have ever thought.

2233
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 3: You know, it was a moment, right, I mean, I

2234
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 3: made it to some level of what I have expectations

2235
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,680
Speaker 3: I had of myself as a successful adult, despite the

2236
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 3: ups and downs that life throws at you. I made

2237
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 3: it in that moment. Congratulations to these two. And they're like, yo,

2238
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 3: let's have the MK mug with us because we love

2239
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 3: wash dads that much. How do you even respond to that?

2240
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 2: Put the picture back up real quick? Put the picture.

2241
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 2: I mean I realized it's just the picture, but my

2242
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 2: man's got the world's shortest arms in this fucking picture.

2243
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

2244
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 3: Well, they call him little Anthony Luke. But I don't

2245
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 3: think you know, after me serenading him with praise, you

2246
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 3: should come back with a short joke. I mean, I mean,

2247
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 3: what are we doing here?

2248
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: Right?

2249
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 2: Come on, listen, this is what we do, all right?

2250
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:41,719
Speaker 3: Well we met Anthony.

2251
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 2: Congratulations. It's a huge it's a huge deal. And buying

2252
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 2: a house for folks out there have never bought one.

2253
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 2: It's it is. You will say this, right, you see,

2254
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 2: it is like wow, it's a wild moment. But also

2255
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 2: it's a pain in the ass. It's a pain in

2256
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: the ass. It's a joke, it is.

2257
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 3: But I mean, dude, I had to rent for so

2258
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 3: long with kids, and I mean, like, it's worth it.

2259
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 3: It's fricking worth it. I mean, you could get a

2260
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 3: money pit, but it's worth it. I will say. I

2261
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 3: met Anthony and v in Vegas. Look you did too.

2262
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 3: Just great people. Even if I thought he was Saul

2263
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 3: for at least two hours of that.

2264
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 2: Just not gonna win any dunk contests anytimes.

2265
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 3: Okay, wow, all right, big fan of those two. Hey,

2266
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 3: let's go over to CG LUNs. He says, hey, MK,

2267
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 3: as BC knows, Minnesota is fight country. I ran into

2268
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 3: a legend at the LFA event this weekend. I was

2269
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 3: representing MK all day every day, like men do, love

2270
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 3: you guys at CG. Luke he met Matt Snyder or

2271
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 3: not Matt Snyder, shouted, Matt Snider.

2272
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 2: Matt Snyder right there, Matt, the legendary Matt Snyder.

2273
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 3: By the way, Matt Snyder and his a lovely wife

2274
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 3: welcomed in, welcome in the first child. So congratulations, love

2275
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 3: those people, Luke. That's Matt Hughes, who not everybody loves.

2276
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 3: But how about CG rep and MK in.

2277
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 2: Front of them? Right, I say, I have to say,

2278
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 2: and I'm being serious here, put the picture up back

2279
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 2: for just a second. Matt Hughes, even despite the disability

2280
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 2: he has suffered as a result of his accident, still

2281
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 2: looks to be in pretty good shape. Right.

2282
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets after it, dude, He's he's going after it.

2283
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 2: He gets after I remember he was one of the

2284
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 2: first guys I remember like in UFC, like had just

2285
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 2: had like a stupid amazing physique in his prime.

2286
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think he has been villainized in recent

2287
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,759
Speaker 3: years reputation wise for different reasons, right, Like, there's.

2288
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 2: Not his biography, No, I have not, Yeah, you should

2289
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 2: read that. I mean again, the guy suffered a terrible

2290
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 2: accident and I don't wish anything bad upon him, certainly

2291
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 2: only recovery in that sense. But you know, his his

2292
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 2: biography I think gave people some pause about potentially whether

2293
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 2: he was a bully or worse. So there is that

2294
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 2: side of the story as well.

2295
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 3: Let's bring in Mike m a I don't know what

2296
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 3: that means, he says. Hey, BC and LT big finish

2297
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 3: show you two gold plated terms. Recently, you guys mentioned

2298
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 3: that the fan submission portion of the show had started

2299
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 3: to grind to a halt. It is one of my

2300
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 3: favorite segments. So here's my attempt to do something about.

2301
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 3: Look at this guy, Mike, He's like, I don't want

2302
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 3: to I want to be the change that I want.

2303
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,879
Speaker 3: He says. Please see the attached Thanks for all the content.

2304
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:08,719
Speaker 3: Keep the spits, the skits and bits rolling, dude.

2305
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 2: Here's what we need to do. Here's what we need

2306
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,719
Speaker 2: to do. Seriously, we need to start our own crypto

2307
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 2: currency called skits and bits. Oh yeah, get investment from

2308
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 2: our audience and then just scam them and take all

2309
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 2: their fucking money.

2310
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 3: You can only on Reddit. You can only spend them

2311
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 3: on Reddit, right.

2312
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 2: The skits and bits coin, Yes.

2313
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 3: That's the only place. It's the only marketplace.

2314
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 2: It's that and strip clubs. That's it. Those places you

2315
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 2: can spend it.

2316
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 3: That arcades, No, no, not our kids.

2317
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 2: Skits and bits coin, and we'll just defraud the audience.

2318
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 2: It'd be great, that's great.

2319
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 3: I want to be the next Bernie made Off Luke,

2320
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 3: I really, do you know what I mean? Or at

2321
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 3: least uh, at least Lori Locke and you know with

2322
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,639
Speaker 3: the whole college scams still hot though, despite that college

2323
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 3: scam Luke, you know for a mom? Yeah all right,

2324
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:55,839
Speaker 3: hey let's.

2325
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the one who paid for her kid to

2326
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,440
Speaker 2: get in Yeah yeah yeah.

2327
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 3: Did she end up in that full house Luke that

2328
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 3: they call prison or did she get like Mark?

2329
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 2: I think she did, like real bullshit time, but yeah

2330
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 2: did a little bit.

2331
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 3: Let's hear from Todd. He says, I want to share

2332
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 3: a business opportunity with MK right now. You can solidify

2333
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 3: your combat crushes with these beautiful combat locketts. Oh this

2334
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 3: is a good one. Luke, Wow, Campbell's keepers indeed, yep,

2335
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 3: So we.

2336
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 2: Should set this up for people listening online. It's sort

2337
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 2: of like two heart pendants opened up on each side.

2338
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:35,639
Speaker 2: There's a picture. For Brian it's Kelvin Gasolin and brett

2339
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 2: O Komodo, and for me it's Eugene Barman and Izzy

2340
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 2: in one picture, and then Bolkanovski and the other. Quite good,

2341
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 2: Quite good.

2342
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke's loves shout out to combat lockets from Todd.

2343
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 3: Great work right there.

2344
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really good. Yeah.

2345
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 3: Hopefully, Luke Friday, we can talk about Kelvin Gaslom's future.

2346
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be bright. More on that

2347
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 3: to come. All right, let's go over to David A.

2348
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:57,799
Speaker 3: Is that is that happy?

2349
01:40:57,960 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 6: It is?

2350
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 3: Luke. A couple of weeks ago, fan subs got so

2351
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 3: bad that you both started lamenting my disappearance. I only

2352
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 3: stopped fan subs for five weeks for fuck's sake, and

2353
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 3: Alan w kept the hot seat warm admirably well. As

2354
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 3: Mark Twain said before he got canceled, reports of my

2355
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 3: death have been greatly exaggerated. BC asked for appy and

2356
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 3: a redemption story after my alleged London antics see the

2357
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:26,719
Speaker 3: first picture. God, wow, that is that after our UK

2358
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 3: and the MK their live show, and.

2359
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:33,799
Speaker 2: This guy on that night. He looked like every person

2360
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 2: you've ever seen escorted out of a ballpark for yeah whatever.

2361
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 3: He was proper shit faced. Look that was wow, dude,

2362
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 3: he said.

2363
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 2: I'll say this man, the Brits drink, dude. They are drinkers.

2364
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 3: They were like like for some of them too, they

2365
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 3: were like real nice family men. They're like, yeah, you know,

2366
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 3: my buddy and I came, first time we've been out.

2367
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 3: I have young kids. And then they proceed to get

2368
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 3: blackout drunk at eight thirty pm. Luke like, that's just

2369
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 3: what they do.

2370
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,679
Speaker 2: You know, It's crazy how much they I thought Americans

2371
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 2: drink a lot. No, the Bridge drink a.

2372
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 3: Lot, Appy would say. So I thought long and hard

2373
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 3: about how to redeem myself in BC's eyes, and decided

2374
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,799
Speaker 3: to get on the comeback trail. Inspired by BC's twelve

2375
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 3: hour review of the best Rocky films. Watch this space

2376
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 3: in the next few months for news of the Appleton

2377
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 3: Redemption tour. But be careful what you wish for, Luke.

2378
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 3: Somebody got Appy up in the bullpen. What do you

2379
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:31,759
Speaker 3: think about this redemption? Tour he's got planned.

2380
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see what he comes up with. I mean,

2381
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,719
Speaker 2: first things first, don't shit on yourself. That'd be progress.

2382
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 2: And then not defecating in your own dungarees. That's that's

2383
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 2: step one. We'll work on the fighting Apollo Creed a

2384
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 2: little bit later. By the way, I paid for that

2385
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 2: movie to watch it at home. I'm gonna watch it

2386
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 2: at home now, the Creed three to one.

2387
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 3: Oh great, like your uber eats you. You paid for

2388
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 3: this hot fresh thing, and you're like, let me just

2389
01:42:58,200 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 3: let it sit there.

2390
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 2: I saw a few movies over vacation. Ready. I saw

2391
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,480
Speaker 2: and these ones I knew were bad, and I downloaded

2392
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 2: them for the plane, but they were long, so I figured,

2393
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 2: you know, keep me occupied. I saw the New Avatar.

2394
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 2: Holy shit, that movie sucks. Okay, wow, I would watch that.

2395
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 2: Just the worst fucking movie ever made. And then I

2396
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 2: saw the Shazam sequel. Also really fucking.

2397
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 3: You mean sequel to the Shack O'Neil Shazam.

2398
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, who was their stars in it? Uh?

2399
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 3: No?

2400
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 2: No, Like the Shazam was the dude, like the young

2401
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 2: kid who gets hit with the lightning bolt and becomes.

2402
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 3: I watch that bullshit okay, Well, the.

2403
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 2: First Shazam was pretty fun, you know, it was okay.

2404
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 2: This one was like they had nothing to do. I

2405
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 2: mean it was fucking awful. So not not good movies.

2406
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 2: You're thinking of Kazam, I'm thinking of Shazam.

2407
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 3: Oh there's a difference between Kazam and Shazam. I was

2408
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 3: not aware of that. All right, did you happen to

2409
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,879
Speaker 3: catch Debbie? Does Doha heard? Does that bring back bad memories?

2410
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:03,640
Speaker 3: Look of your youth?

2411
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 2: I mean I think you can sort of scratch that

2412
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 2: itch with old me a Khalifa porn that has been circular.

2413
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 3: Okay, wow, hey, I think we got Alan w Hare

2414
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 3: who is on a roll, he says, being a Korean

2415
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 3: film officionado. I imagine my boy Luke Thomas has seen

2416
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Old Boy. Yes on Wow, yeah, look at this. Here's

2417
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 3: the description on his warpath, his righteous indignation over Fighter Pay.

2418
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas is the old donk ps. Check out the

2419
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 3: rest of Chan Wu Park's Vengeance trilogy, Sympathy for Mister

2420
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,759
Speaker 3: Vengeance and Lady Vengeance. And I think you'll like Memories

2421
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 3: of Murder as well, Luke.

2422
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 2: Your thoughts Memories of Murder? I've seen the other ones

2423
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 2: I have not d Korean cinema is are better. Parts

2424
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 2: obviously of it are fucking great. You can get a

2425
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 2: taste of it with a Train to Busan, which is

2426
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 2: the zombie one and uh obviously people assault pair. Did

2427
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 2: you see Parasite? Did you see that movie?

2428
01:44:59,120 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2429
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 3: Oh I saw in the or in the eighth row.

2430
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 3: Was it was? I was a pretty uh dramatic ending.

2431
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:05,719
Speaker 3: Look I didn't see that coming.

2432
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much, all right, Yeah, the ending

2433
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 2: was definitely climactic. But uh yeah, Old Boy is great.

2434
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 2: I think Old Boy I saw it on Netflix. I

2435
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 2: don't know, a couple of years ago, ish. I think

2436
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 2: it's still on there. At least it shouldn't be too

2437
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 2: hard to find. Go check it out. That's a great

2438
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 2: A great fans up.

2439
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 3: I think this is the last couple here from Allen

2440
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 3: w He says, uh, I know BCCs himself as the

2441
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:29,799
Speaker 3: franchise of Morning Combat with Average Joe Art's belt design.

2442
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 3: We got Art up in this place with some good

2443
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 3: old rastling. You can't see me. My time is now.

2444
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,719
Speaker 3: It's the franchise. Boy, I'm shining now. It's b Sina

2445
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 3: with the MK belt.

2446
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the make fans subs great again, hat Jesus, that

2447
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 2: fits you a little too.

2448
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's really really good.

2449
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

2450
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 3: By the way, Luke, I ain't got time for this

2451
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 3: Biden Trump rematch? What are we doing here? I mean,

2452
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 3: can you know what I mean?

2453
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, like thing tells you more about

2454
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,799
Speaker 2: the sad state of American democracy than its two most

2455
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:09,799
Speaker 2: powerful political parties are having yet another gearontocracy fucking battle.

2456
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, if I'm DeSantis and I still have

2457
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 3: a chance, I just come out with like like just

2458
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 3: with like firearms and lit cigarettes. I'm like Ricardo. My

2459
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 3: arg are the rest of the way, basically, you know,

2460
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 3: just do anything to try to get that vote.

2461
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 2: Luke threatened to drink Oscar's wife's breast milk. The whole bit,

2462
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 2: the whole bit.

2463
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, Wow. I think we got a couple more

2464
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 3: from that.

2465
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 2: Did that?

2466
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:32,679
Speaker 4: Oh?

2467
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 3: I know that, Mike. You got anything else from Allen

2468
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 3: w here? Oh yeah, look at this.

2469
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 2: CEO of p Oh god, we're doing skits and oh yeah,

2470
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 2: times and skits and bits. Oh no, you don't. Yeah, the.

2471
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 3: H is pretty impressive at times. Yes, there you go. Well,

2472
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you can talk a big game,

2473
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 3: Allen W You know two Margarita's nearly got us canceled

2474
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 3: that one time?

2475
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 2: All right? So hey, three, it was Boarding Combat presents

2476
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 2: Donks a contentious romance with unadulterated stupidity. That really is

2477
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 2: the very best description of the show.

2478
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's well done by Allen W.

2479
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 2: Wow Wow, really good. Yeah, super MK. But I saw

2480
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 2: I saw this in the movie theater. That took my

2481
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 2: Should I see it? Uh? If you're three, it's great?

2482
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that summed it up, so I'll love

2483
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 3: it apparently, Okay, good, Yeah, I'll probably take my kids.

2484
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 3: They want to see that. Pretty bad, but whatever. Shout

2485
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 3: out to Alan W there, and shout out to everybody

2486
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 3: else who filled up Morningcombat at gmail dot com. We

2487
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 3: challenged you. You either came back big today or you

2488
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 3: were like appy. You tease a future, so we're ready

2489
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 3: for that future. Maybe that nightmare we'll find out. And uh,

2490
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 3: you know, hey, J Piquette, where you at?

2491
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 2: Bro right?

2492
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 3: Hey Luke, did you see I don't know how if J.

2493
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 3: Piquette has access to your like home phone or whatever,

2494
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 3: but him and his wife and Nova Scotia did did

2495
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 3: Colombian Hot Dog Night and they made it up the

2496
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:06,640
Speaker 3: same exact specifications that I ate that time in the

2497
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 3: FTL studio and they loved it.

2498
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty great. I had. I had a perro

2499
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 2: when I was in Cartagena. That was fucking awesome. It

2500
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 2: was really good.

2501
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 3: By the way, they said, dog, oh, jp I always here.

2502
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, video, I didn't mean to skip it. Can

2503
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 3: we play Jpikat's video here Morning Combat at gmail dot com?

2504
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 3: Is the hell?

2505
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 2: Look?

2506
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 3: There are there are some whispers online that the whatever

2507
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 3: we had at some point with the fan subs that

2508
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 3: it's over now.

2509
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want to get to the UFC thing?

2510
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, shortly. But either people are out of ideas, Luke,

2511
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:46,719
Speaker 3: or the people that had good ideas that really loved

2512
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:48,759
Speaker 3: our show no longer love our shows.

2513
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 2: Well Danger Mouse really losing him was as a regular

2514
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 2: contributor to this. It hurt us big.

2515
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 3: Did we ruin all these great people? I mean, one

2516
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 3: day where we find j Piquett living in a van

2517
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 3: down by the river, Luke because of us? Or is

2518
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:07,840
Speaker 3: that inevitable?

2519
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 2: No, because his wife looks like a baller. But but

2520
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 2: he's definitely you know you're gonna see You're gonna see

2521
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 2: him purp walk before too long. I think.

2522
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 3: I'm kind of hoping for an appy redemption story, like

2523
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 3: an ARC, you know, where he just becomes like a

2524
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:30,640
Speaker 3: credit to his society, Like he stops taking from the

2525
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 3: society by what going to jail and he starts giving. Luke, well,

2526
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 3: I'm sure he'd be willing to give to this.

2527
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 2: This dude had. This dude in public had underwear on

2528
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 2: the outside of his pants the first time he met us.

2529
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 2: I mean.

2530
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 3: My sincere apologies to Ja Piquet, who did answer the

2531
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 3: call this week in a big way, Luke. I mean

2532
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 3: seeing Happy's underwear from behind there when he was ship

2533
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 3: faced at our live show. This is the stupidest show ever.

2534
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean, what if we done with our career.

2535
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 2: I mean shit staying so fast, so fast.

2536
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 3: Thank you to all of our dogs for contributing. We

2537
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 3: would not have this great community and win these awards

2538
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 3: without you. Yeah, Luke, I didn't get your response. Do

2539
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 3: we won another freaking award? Do you have any I.

2540
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 2: Couldn't believe it. I could. I keep saying I can't

2541
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 2: believe it, But I'm always like, Okay, this is the

2542
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 2: one we don't win. This is the one we don't win,

2543
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 2: and we just keep sucking winning them. So yeah, man,

2544
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 2: thanks to everyone who voted. Also one more time, sorry

2545
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 2: for all the technical difficulties that Brian experienced. Yeah, and

2546
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 2: we hopefully that won't be the case on Friday. Brian.

2547
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 3: You know it's interesting, Luke. You know I'm four and

2548
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 3: oh against Hawani head to head and what and uh

2549
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:03,600
Speaker 3: you know, Best Show Award vading So you know, r

2550
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 3: I p to a great girl.

2551
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 2: Dad.

2552
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 3: Notwithstanding, Ariel, tell me how my ass tastes?

2553
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 2: How was it working with him out there in Vegas?

2554
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to watch a lot of that.

2555
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 3: We know there was some we had. We had some

2556
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 3: wild moments there, Luke. Okay, you know I miss a

2557
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 3: little little It was you know, it was the aerial show.

2558
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 3: But he brought he brought the energy and uh we

2559
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 3: had it was just the.

2560
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: Two things, right. It was like all you guys did

2561
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 2: because dude boxing has all these extraneous things. They have

2562
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 2: the grand next extremest, but they all do it. They

2563
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:38,639
Speaker 2: have the grand arrival on Tuesdays. Right then they had

2564
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 2: workouts on Wednesdays. Thought I thought Ray Flores did those right,

2565
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken.

2566
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Ray Floor has handled the public workout and

2567
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 3: the grand.

2568
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:49,799
Speaker 2: Arrival was just just presser, just Wigham.

2569
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 3: We did presser with Stephen Jackson on Thursday, we did

2570
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 3: weigh in uh with Kate Abdon Friday, and then and

2571
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:57,440
Speaker 3: then we did the Countdown Show and we did incredible

2572
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 3: numbers and it was a lot of fun. Absolutely, how's

2573
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 3: Kate abdough A pros pro? I mean just smooth as

2574
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 3: like you know, you mentioned it that that soccer so

2575
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 3: obviously she does for CBS Paramount. What is it called,

2576
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 3: Luke officially?

2577
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 2: Uh, I think it's the uh. I think they call

2578
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 2: it the Galazo Show. I'm not sure the actual name

2579
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 2: of it.

2580
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:21,759
Speaker 3: But she you know, from being on like the inside

2581
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 3: the NBA type vibe that they have going on there,

2582
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 3: that she can play with anything. And you know, me

2583
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 3: and Ariel at times were just just rolling the dice

2584
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 3: and having fun and she flipped fit right into that

2585
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 3: m K flow Luke so to speak right that that

2586
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 3: that edgy high energy, perfect perfect and Luke, when I

2587
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 3: spilled countless fluids on myself during the Countdown Show, she

2588
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 3: actually got the tide pen out and was trying to

2589
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 3: h you know, clean me up. So a true teammate

2590
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 3: there and Kate Abdough but uh yeah, shout out to

2591
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 3: Ariel for joining us. Dude, absolutely, man, we uh you

2592
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 3: know he was riding that Ryan Garcia train hard Luke.

2593
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 3: But there was a lot of fun moments there was.

2594
01:52:58,720 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 3: That was a good time.

2595
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 2: He wasn't the only one. By the way, I don't

2596
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 2: know the name of the show. It's on all the time.

2597
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 2: It's her, it's Jamie, it's Michael Richards, it's Thierry Henrie,

2598
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 2: it's Jamie Carragher from Liverpool and they do a bit.

2599
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 2: It's it's basically the equivalent of like Shaq and Kenny

2600
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:18,760
Speaker 2: and everyone else on NBA on T on T It's

2601
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,879
Speaker 2: like the soccer equivalent of that. It's pretty funny.

2602
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 3: I agreed with that statement when I made it thirty seconds. Wow,

2603
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 3: you know that's fine.

2604
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 2: It's fine, right, but you've actually never seen it. You're

2605
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:29,599
Speaker 2: just saying words.

2606
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen I've seen excerpts. Okay. I support

2607
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 3: Kate abdo in her career.

2608
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 2: I think it's I think they do just Champions League

2609
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 2: on CBS. I think it's just Champions League. So anyway,

2610
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 2: that's it for us. Want to remind everyone showtime dot

2611
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 2: Com label that pays. If you want, you can get

2612
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:45,559
Speaker 2: Showtime thirty day free. You can keep it if you

2613
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 2: like it. If not, you can bounce big. Thanks to

2614
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 2: frank Mer. Congratulations to him on a great run. Remember

2615
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 2: he'll be fighting August twelfth with his daughter on a

2616
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 2: fuller soon to be car announced card for UFL And

2617
01:53:58,040 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 2: uh yeah, that's it. I think we're done here BC.

2618
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 3: Any final thoughts, no, none at all, But thank you

2619
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 3: for you know, hanging with me through my uh so,

2620
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 3: I guess I do have some final thoughts. Yeah, Luke,

2621
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 3: thanks for hanging with me through technological hell that I

2622
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 3: went through. You know, was it my fault? Was it

2623
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 3: the equipment's fault? You know who cares?

2624
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 2: Luke?

2625
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 3: The fan suffered at the end of the day, and

2626
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 3: I apologize for that all right.

2627
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,679
Speaker 2: In the end, it was really only one group that took.

2628
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 3: Me well hard, Luke. But in the end, it doesn't

2629
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter, alright. One thing, I don't know why,

2630
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:30,799
Speaker 3: right like that that song kind of it still bangs

2631
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 3: right like that era sucks.

2632
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 2: You know what this is gonna be. It's gonna be blasphemous.

2633
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 2: Never a Lincoln Park guy, never.

2634
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 3: I mean neither of ie above like the couple you know,

2635
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 3: mainstream hits they had. But all right, I thought that

2636
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 3: song still slams, Like if that's coming on the radio,

2637
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 3: if that's on like Lithium or something, I'm turning I serious,

2638
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm turning that ship up, okay, And you're gonna have

2639
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 3: to be okay with that.

2640
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's better than the necessary hours of endless fucking

2641
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 2: sitar jamming that you normally.

2642
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 3: Well I do that too, but you used to support

2643
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 3: that that evan essence jam too, Luke. That one is

2644
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 3: That one is like yo, like I'll put the windows down.

2645
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 2: Story essence, like the lady's voice is really nice. But

2646
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 2: I don't like those songs all that much.

2647
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate that genre, but that song kicks ass.

2648
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 3: You know the song I'm talking.

2649
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 2: Bring Me to Life is yeah, it's good. All right,

2650
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 2: b C. Well, that's it. We've overstayed our welcome and

2651
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 2: then some thanks to Mikey Morms for helping us out

2652
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 2: here as well, getting the all knowing and trying to

2653
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 2: make it work. And thanks to CBS Sports and everybody else.

2654
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 2: So for BC, i'm LT and everyone else in the

2655
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 2: MK crew, thanks for watching We're back on Friday, and

2656
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:36,320
Speaker 2: until then, all of your gains be loyal.