1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. You know, when it comes to repairing cars, 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: just strange things happen in repair shops. The Car Doctor 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: eclipses full moons, high tides, low tides, bed Whether it 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: affects all of us, it affects us, not just in 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: our judgments, in the way we drive. Multi people drive 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: like their notes anyway. Welcome to the radio home of 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Ron and Aian the Car Doctor, since this is where 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six and now he running. Hey, 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: it's time to start your engines. Ron and the Car 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Doctor here at eight five five five six zero nine 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Give us a call and get on. 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Let's talk about your car. Let's solve your problem. Also 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: of this hour of giving away our Wicks Commemorative nineteen 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: thirty nine, Ford Coop die cast car courtesy the folks 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: over at Wicks Filters Um. Not only has Wick's been 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: protecting America's engines for seventy five plus years every once 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: in a while they let us get away one of 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: these great little die cast models. Um no, Tom, I'm 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: taking the car away from you. You're no longer allowed 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: to play with it. You know, you really disappoint me. 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: You told me I could have this thing, I could 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: take it home. I got play with it. You know. 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: The problem is last week we forgot to give it 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: away because you and Tony wouldn't give it up. And 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: your point, well, that's just the whole point. This thing 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: is really neat. It's got an opening hood and trunk. 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: It's got a detailed Ford flathead engine, Whitewall tires. It's 32 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: got a vintage nineteen thirty nine North Carolina license plate 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: with great detail, great detail, custom Wicks branded window box packaging. 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: It's just a really neat piece. And it's a commemorative 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: for the Wicks anniversary. So over giving that away this 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: hour as well. But we are here to take your 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: calls and answer your questions, and I think we should. 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: I've got a great conversation I want to have with 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: everybody today. You know, we always talk about good mechanics 40 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: and why good mechanics are so hard to find. But 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: somewhere in the course of this hour, I want to 42 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: talk about good customers, and I want to talk a 43 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: little bit about a story, a conversation I overheard at 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: the deli the other day, and you know how that's 45 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: a bad customer. And I want to just make everybody 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: think a little bit are you being a good customer? 47 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: And maybe we can increase and improve the flow communication 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: between repair shops and the people that bring their cars in. 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: But right now, let's get over to the phone. Let's 50 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: go over to Z from Houston and they'll talk about 51 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: his ninety four Roadmaster with some questions about what's going on. Zed. 52 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help afternoon? Yes, Uh, 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: I hadn't. I haven't had a problem in my car. 54 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: And it was it was coughing back or stalling or 55 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: back to the body right. So we changed the distributor 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: drawing it so brand new ACDL coin destript drawing it 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: and that didn't and fixed the problems. So they went 58 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: in in they put a E C M on it 59 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: and electronics control module and that fixed the problem. It 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: runs beautiful now, but it needs to be program I 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: understand to that V to that van number of that 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: automobile right right now the problem is that the two 63 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: radiator fans electric fans, they do not run. Will the 64 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: air conditioner run into with this hunter? I don't agree 65 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: with weather down here. We need air conditions, yeah, I 66 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: would think so sure? Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely? Um So how 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: can I help you? What's your question to me? So 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: my problem is do does this new e c M 69 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: need to be recalibrated to my car? It was it 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: a Was it a new e c M right from 71 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: a General Motors dealers? And and I'm kind of confused 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: because if they got an you know, a software the 73 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: e c M that wasn't you know it was brand 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: new from a GM dealer? Was? I guess? I gotta 75 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: start there was a brand new from a GM dealer? 76 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Or was it a used piece? You can't buy it 77 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: as cars too, they have to I had to go 78 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: to put an aftermarket. Okay, So you know they got 79 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: a reman from a local parts house. Probably I'm going 80 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: to guess and say maybe in a one cardone or 81 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: something like that that came programmed already. Yes, Okay, so 82 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen this was a ninety four and ninety four 83 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: the computer was programmed by the if I remember correctly 84 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: the flash from module? Did they transfer over your inside 85 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: your computer? Was something called a prompt or an and 86 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: or a memical. It was two separate memory chips, one 87 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: or two, depending upon the year of the vehicle itself. 88 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: Do you know if they transferred those over? No? I 89 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: do not. Do you still understand if the problem wasn't 90 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: changed out, the car would not start at all? Is 91 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: this correct? Well, that's correct. But if the new computer 92 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: came with a prom and it gave it the basics, 93 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: it would start, but it wouldn't have the correct characteristics 94 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: to match the vehicle. But the bigger question is do 95 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: they still have the old computer or did they send 96 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 1: it back as a core? See that I can see there? Again, 97 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have found that out on Monday, 98 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: But I don't any idea what they did because they 99 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: normally wanted that core right correct, and and if memory 100 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: serves me correct, we're going back twenty something years it was. 101 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't a prom anymore, it was a memical, and 102 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: the memical the memory calibration stick built into the PCM 103 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: was it's the last four digits that determine the application 104 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: per vehicle, all right, So you know if it depends 105 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: on where the computer came from. If the computer came 106 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: with a memical, then they probably sent yours back complete. 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: But if that's the case, all is not lost because 108 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: there are some aftermarket companies out there that you can 109 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: give them the then let them go back. They will 110 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: look up how that software we're supposed to be flashed 111 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: originally from GM. You might have some downtime with the 112 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: vehicle where you have to send that mem coal chip 113 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: back to them. They will flash it and then send 114 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: it back to you. All right. To my knowledge, I 115 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: don't believe a Tech one, which is what it would 116 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 1: have been in ninety four, a Tech one scan tool 117 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: would work in this application. I don't believe we were 118 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: flash capable. Uh back then, I don't think it applied. 119 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but it was. It was very 120 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: late in the game for O B D one And 121 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: in all likelihood, this is going to require a memical 122 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: to update the PCM. That's where all the you know, 123 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: software updates were, and um, you know that's that's basically 124 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: how it worked. So but try that. If that doesn't work, 125 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: give us a call back back and I'll probably tell you. 126 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: At that point, send me the vent of the vehicle. 127 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: We can have this conversation next week or the week after. 128 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: Send me the send me the vent of the vehicle, 129 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: and I'll do a little more research on my side 130 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: and see what else I can find out for you. 131 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: How you guys holding up down there in Houston. You're 132 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: getting by all right? Yes? Getting flooded. Yeah, I can imagine, 133 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: I can imagine. Um, well, i'll tell you what's that. 134 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: We we appreciate the fact you're calling us and you know, 135 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: taking the time. We know you've got a lot going on, 136 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: and um, we hope we were able to distract you 137 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: a little bit from the from the storm you're feeling. 138 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna be sending out the Weeks thirty nine four 139 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: die cast to you. I'd like you to ask you 140 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: to stay on the phone. Uh, Tom Ray Jr. Or 141 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Tom Ray the fourth. We'll pick up the phone. I'll 142 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: get your mailing address. It's courtesy the folks over at 143 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: Wicks Filters. It's the special seventy fifth Weeks Anniversary thirty 144 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: nine Ford coupe with some really neat detailing and um, 145 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, options and just just a neat die cast 146 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: car to put on the studio You're very welcome, sir. 147 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: We hope that, uh we hope thoughts of it until 148 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: you get it will help you pass the time of 149 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: day until you guys get safe and secure and help 150 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: draw you out and help you put up with all 151 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: this aggravation you're dealing with with your car. So it 152 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: was a pleasure to meet you today. Zed stay on 153 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: the phone and Tom Ray the fourth will take you 154 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: up on this and get your information for you. Take 155 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: good care. Um, yeah, that's you know, wow, look at 156 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: the technology. See and this is this is what I've 157 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: been saying for a while now in that what will 158 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: happen to the older car and the technology? How will 159 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: we flash that? How will we keep up with that? 160 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I started the last hour show talking about 161 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: I'm amazed that the parts you can get. And I 162 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: still think this car is reparable. I still think by 163 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: hook or by crook, there's a way to flash this 164 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: or update this, or change the memicale or solve this form. 165 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: But it's the steps you have to take. And it 166 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: makes you wonder how many people would take the steps 167 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: or how many people would just you know, give up 168 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: on it and and and and go buy a new car. 169 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: So but in any event, Zed, we appreciate you taking 170 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: the time to give us a call, as we pointed out, 171 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: and good luck to you and or stay stay well, 172 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: stay safe down there. 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Speaking of going on, 182 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: let's go over to Steve in Maine with some problems 183 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: two thousand seven Prius and I'll see what's going on 184 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: here with an A B S light coming on Steve. 185 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Yeah? 186 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: The A B S light comes on at exactly six 187 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: and uh and then it go it goes off once 188 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: you slow down that if you come back up again, 189 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: it comes on. But I've no have a scene. A 190 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: lightness check engine light that goes off and comes back 191 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: convites well, there's something. There's something going on here speed 192 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: sensitive as anybody scanner for fall coach. Let me catch 193 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: up to a little more here. I had a front wheel, 194 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: a front right wheel bearing and an axle uh an 195 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: axle ring replaced along with the the A BS sensor 196 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: and when I got it back, the UM the A 197 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: B the A B AB s light was never on 198 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: before that, but that came on and the other problem 199 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: was fixed to the wheel bearing thing. But they I 200 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: had it rescanned by a Toyota dealer and they said 201 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: they found C twelve thirty six on the right hand 202 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: speed sensor and they they thought there was a foreign 203 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: object attached on it. UM. And what I did was 204 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: go back to the people that had put it on 205 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: for me originally and get them to replace it with 206 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: a new one, and they did and it didn't do anything. 207 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: It's still the same, so it couldn't have been a 208 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: tip damage that they're talking about. Okay, So where does 209 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: it stand now? Has anybody taking diagnosis further or they're 210 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: just waiting for you to tell you? I don't I 211 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: don't know which way to go with it. Okay, Well 212 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: let's let's let's back up and look at this logically. 213 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: All right, by the way, is your radio on, Steve, No, Uh, well, 214 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: my wife's listening to a to it on the other 215 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: on a tablet. All right, so maybe she can move 216 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: a little away because I can actually hear it. It's you. 217 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: You're confusing. I can ever turn it off? Yeah, maybe 218 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: if we could do that. It's it's like I can 219 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: I can hear myself, so I can tell something's up. 220 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: A little bit of live radio here, folks, is what happens? 221 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: You want me to tell her? She'll hear me, So 222 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: we could do it that way. There we go. That works, 223 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Um so, And if she wants 224 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: to hear this segment, she can go to car Doctor 225 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: Show dot com and take the podcast second hour. It 226 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: will be up in a couple of hours after today show. 227 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: Um it'll be there. It'll be here for you. But 228 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: in any event, um, let's look at this. Logically, this 229 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: problem didn't happen until after you had the bearing repaired, right, 230 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: So let's assume, which is a dangerous word, that it's 231 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: related to what they did. We we've we've now got 232 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: a twelve thirty six, which is a problem with a 233 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: problem with an input signal or some kind of a 234 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: signal out of the left front speed center. Agreed. Okay, 235 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: we need to find somebody that understands what a scope is. 236 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: And before we start taking anything else apart and run 237 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: the risk of hurting anything, we need to scope the 238 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: signal out of the left front, right front and the 239 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: two rear speed sensors. If we of the well, let's 240 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: le's it's it's not a bad place to start. Did 241 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: they touch the right side, yeah? Right? Did they? Did 242 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: they touch the right side, Steve, No, they just worked 243 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: on the left front, correct, The right side is the 244 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: one they did. Oh, the right side is the one 245 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: they did. But it's coming up with a left fault code. Yeah, 246 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: maybe they mixed it was. I've got the invoice in 247 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: front of me. Well, uh, speed sensor right hand. Oh yeah, 248 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: but twelve thirty six is a left front fall oh, 249 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, to my knowledge, that's interesting. I wonder 250 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: if they if they put it right front, well, they 251 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: put a left front on the right. It shouldn't matter. 252 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: But obviously, you know, obviously there's a couple of things 253 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: we want to do here. We want to go back 254 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: and verify part numbers. Do we have correct parts and 255 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: part numbers where they're supposed to be, and then verify 256 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: that twelve thirty six memory serves me right, twelve thirty 257 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: six is a left front is an issue with left 258 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: front speed sensor? Not right? Okay, okay, I kind of 259 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: thought that myself. All right. Now that being said, the 260 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: be all and end all is I will get out 261 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: of lab scope and either I'll use a two channel, 262 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: four channel, I don't care how I do it, don't 263 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: do it, and wave all four sensors. They got to 264 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: look the same. It's that simple wave. You know, we're gonna, 265 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna do what you do for a living, Steve, 266 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: what do you do for a living? Hi, I'm retired 267 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: and I do some volunteer driving for attal um. Okay, 268 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: how did you make how did you make your living? 269 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: Where you were? Anything mechanical? Electrical? Okay, So yeah, listen, 270 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: I can, I mean, I can relate to that. That's 271 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, So you guys used a calculator. Calculator gave 272 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: you the numbers and a digital readout. Correct. Correct, So 273 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: so the calculator was your voltmeter. It displayed things digitally digitally, 274 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: all right? Every once in a while, you had to 275 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: go to a client and you had to use Excel 276 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: to show them things in a graph, how it would 277 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: wave up and down, how their finances would go up 278 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: and down. Right, same thing. So it's a scope is 279 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: like an Excel spreadsheet. Instead of showing you the numbers 280 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: on a calculator in digital format, it's it's showing them 281 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: to you in a wave. It's showing them as a graph. 282 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: It's showing it as it goes up and as it 283 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: goes down, it goes down. So the graph, you know, 284 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: when we scope something. The nice part is a scope 285 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: is faster than a digital voultometers. It's you know, think 286 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: about how much information you could get to a client 287 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: by showing them numbers on a calculator versus how much 288 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: more information you could get to them showing them on 289 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: a scope on a graph. Right the graph, they could 290 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: see the rise of the fall, they could see things 291 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: in more detail, same idea. That's what a scope does, 292 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: all right. So best known good if the repair shop 293 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: says that we have to know what known good is 294 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: best known good is the other three centers on the car. 295 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: That's what it's supposed to look like. Uh, you know, 296 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: and that's that's better than any spec Yeah, that's better 297 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: than any spect that anybody could write down or or 298 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: deal with. So you know, I would scope the sensors, 299 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: see what they look like. Whichever one is the problem, 300 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: taking apart something's wrong, that's simple, right, Um, So the 301 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: um could be any of the four. No, to my knowledge, 302 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: SAT twelve thirty six is a foreign object on the 303 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: tip of the left front speed sensor. It's it's it's 304 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: telling us that it sees a problem with the left 305 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: front and maybe and maybe this has nothing to do 306 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: with any of the work they did. Could be a complete, 307 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: complete coincidence, absolutely possible, Right, So I could have that, Yeah, 308 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: I could have left the left front. Uh. Checked. I 309 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: guess that's what I should start with. Me. What did 310 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: the Toyota dealer want to do? What? What did they 311 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: They said there was a foreign had object attached on 312 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: the tip of front seat speed sensor right hand sensor, 313 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: so for a slight damage to tip of plastic around sensor. 314 00:17:54,440 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: But I think the other that was before they replaced 315 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: it for me, So they replaced it and there was 316 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: no change. Correct. Give me a favorite, double double check 317 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: double check the twelve thirty six I remember twelve thirty six. 318 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: Is the left front sensor right or wrong? Regardless if 319 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't work scoping. All four of these are scoping 320 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: at least two of these to compare. We'll give us 321 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: a baseline to work from and then call me back 322 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: next week. Give me some more information. I'm morningating the 323 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. I'm coming back right after this list. What 324 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: this car is automatic, it's systematic, it's hard, dramatic. What's 325 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: breeze lightning? Hey, welcome back the Car Doctor. Five zero 326 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero Car Doctor show dot Com. By 327 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: the way, this segment of the Car Doctor is to 328 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: you buy motocraft. You know, we use motocraft parts in 329 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: the shop. We think you should too. If you've got 330 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: afford a Lincoln or Mercury product, you know, remember motocraft parts. 331 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: You're there for all your repair and maintenance needs. Keep 332 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: in mind that the name motocraft is stood for durability 333 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: and quality for nearly five decades. It works for us, 334 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: it'll work for you. Motorcraft right, part priced right. Something's 335 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: rowing my glasses today. I can't seem to read that well. 336 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm missing things so unfortunately I can still see 337 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: Thompson I'm gonna point to Tom and say, didn't you 338 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: have a birthday last week? You have something to do 339 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: with that? You know, I'm getting old, Tom. I can't 340 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: I can't remember anything. I can't remember, I can't see. 341 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm falling upost. I think I did. Yeah, I 342 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: think I just remember your days coming there, Judas. So 343 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: you just wait, um, turn on the phones. Let's go. 344 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: Let me go talk to Tom in Wisconsin. Tom, hurry up, 345 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: get me while I'm still here. So how canna help you? Sir? 346 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: First of all, I love your program around but here 347 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: is what I'd like to say. I have a new 348 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: for with the twin turbols on it to to two 349 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: point six Eco Boast, and I've heard a few concerns 350 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: in the past with that design about having trouble keeping 351 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: the veloves clean. And so my question for you is 352 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: should I consider buying a factory extended warranty. I'm not 353 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: actually gonna put a lot of miles on this truck, 354 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna keep it for many years, So you 355 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: have an opinion on whether or not I should spend 356 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: some money. Not to mention that this truck has so 357 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: many gadgets on it, round. I if I have to 358 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: fix those and can't do it myself, I'm gonna be 359 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: in trouble. So just curious with your opinion. Is a 360 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: factory extended warranty at all reasonable? How much is it? Tom? Well? Um, 361 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: from what they're telling me, a couple of thousand dollars, 362 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: which is I think discounted off the original price that 363 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: they offered me. So to grand, let's let's let's let's 364 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: keep the number. Let's keep it simple. So let's say 365 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: it's two grand for a extended warranty to how many 366 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: miles hundred thousand, seventy hundreds and a total of eight years, 367 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: eight years. So for two grand eight years, you know, yeah, 368 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: I think it's probably worth it. Now here's where here's 369 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: where it doesn't pay off. All right, Uh, you know 370 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: how many miles do you think you're gonna put on it? Well, 371 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna get that many miles because 372 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: it's a full sash truck and I just don't need that, 373 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: so I use another vehicle to get around most of 374 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: the time. Right, you know, here's here's the problem. All right. 375 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: I put an extended I put an extent. I had 376 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: my daughter put an extended warranty on her little escape. 377 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: She's about seven eight hours from home now, and part 378 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: of the reason was that as she broke down on 379 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: the road traveling back and forth, I wanted to know 380 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: that at least I could get it into a four 381 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: dealer and maybe have somebody's attention. They seem to want 382 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: to fix warranty extended warranty vehicles faster than non extended 383 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: warranty vehicles. That's just my sense. Maybe they maybe they 384 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: see free money there. I'm not exactly sure what it is, 385 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: but just one way of thinking, it gives me, as 386 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: a father, a sense of of of security. Maybe I'm wrong, 387 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's false hope, but one of the things it 388 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: does do is it takes that thirty thou dollar escape 389 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: and gives me a little bit of security in the 390 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: sense that if it needed a three thousand dollar repair, 391 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: not so much that it's just covered, but I've got 392 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: everybody's attention because it is under warranty. If that makes sense, 393 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Uh you know, um, you know the 394 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: other side of it is, at that three thousand dollar repair, 395 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: if it needed a turbo when something else, um, you know, 396 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: that's that's two thirds of the price. You know, your 397 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: your your warranty is too grand. That's two thirds of 398 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: the price of that repair. So let's flash forward to 399 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: you two turbos under the hood. You know, I gotta 400 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: tell you a good lord. I just recently changed the 401 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: oil on Rachel's escape yesterday. As a matter of fact, 402 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: I went into the shop on my day off on 403 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: vacation to change the oil and service it. And that 404 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: oil came out beat up in black as always, and 405 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: um it just the turbo cars just seemed to do that. 406 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: They just beat the heck out oil. And you know 407 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: that's why I'm glad there's extended warranty on it. Uh. 408 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: My my concern is, you know how many times above 409 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: and beyond a repair, what I have the stomach to 410 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: keep going? And and let me explain that we as 411 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: human beings, there's there's a side of us. I think 412 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: that if something has open heart surgery, oh that's no good. 413 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: Let me get another one. Um so what what was 414 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: all right? I mean, that's just human nature, because human 415 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: nature got you know, human nature just plays a huge 416 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: part in how we perceive and what we do with 417 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: our cars. And you know that really affects us. I think. 418 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: The way I would look at this is I don't 419 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: think you're going to have engine failure. I would think 420 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: if anything, it's turbo or electronic and the components around it. 421 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: I would go down and talk to the dealer and say, hey, 422 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, what do you seeing fail? Um? What are 423 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: the price of those components? And you know, maybe it's 424 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: not so bad. Two grand for eight years. If we 425 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: broke that down into a per year cost, it's peanuts. Well, 426 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: actually it's it's only five years because the first three 427 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: years is covered. Okay, okay, Well I'm with you completely. 428 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: I've been I have never purchased one of these, and 429 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: I've never thought I would. And I'm pretty handy guys, 430 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: so I can fix most things. But this guy is 431 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: so this truck is so full of gadgets. And that's 432 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: that's now. I'll tell you this. You look at those 433 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: twin turbos and the amount of heat that they generate, 434 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: and we talk about oil getting beat up and the 435 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: way that works. This is why you've got to use 436 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: a good oil. This is why you've got to use 437 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: a good filter. Um. You know, here's where here's where 438 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Penn's oil comes involved with their synthetics. And here's where 439 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: Wicks comes in with their filters. And you know this 440 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: this is just part and parcel to to go hand 441 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: in hand here. And you know you've got to use 442 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: the good stuff so you don't have to use that warranty. 443 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure you are. But I'm just 444 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, bringing it up as a matter or a fact, 445 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: um that I've already because of your suggestion, I've already 446 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: got the pennzroil Fold synthetic and uh so I and 447 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Uh And I appreciate your program. And 448 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're altered. And I'm glad there's people like 449 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: you out there. Right I'll tell you what, Tom, It's um. 450 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's very humbling to do this. I have. 451 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: I have no idea how I got to this point. Um. 452 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: I I throw it up to the big guy upstairs. 453 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: I think you just wanted me on radio to talk 454 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: to people about their cars and their problems. And here 455 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: I am twenty six seven years later. It's um, it's 456 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of a need. Yes, sir, thank you very much. 457 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: You have one question about keeping valves clean before I 458 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: let you go. UM, what was it. Oh, well, you 459 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: have talked a little bit in the past about a product, 460 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: maybe a fuel additive that might help keep uh, the 461 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: fuel clean, which might help the problem that there's a 462 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: slight potential uh with the valves in this engine because 463 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: of the direct injection. Uh. Some people say that there's 464 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of a build up, a carbon build 465 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: up on the on the valves, and so you have 466 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: talked to the past about a some kind of fuel 467 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: additive that might help that. You know, fuel additive and 468 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: carbon cleaning is is a moving target. You know, if 469 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: if if some things in order repair, doing break repair, 470 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: doing injine repairs is a bull's eye. It's always there. 471 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: It's a fixed point. Fuel system cleaning is a moving target. Man, 472 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: it's always changing. And because of that, I'm always watching 473 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: to see who's got the best and who's keeping up 474 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: in the engineering. And for a while now the folks 475 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: over at Berriman Berriman Products dot com. You know, their 476 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: their Berryman fuel system additive with their high energy solving 477 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: technology hest UM really is the good stuff. It's it 478 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: really works, and using it on a g d I 479 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: engine has become essential now because we want to try 480 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: and get some of that into the system, and because 481 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: of the way g d I sprays directly into the cylinder, 482 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: we missed the valves. And it's it's just important because 483 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: it helps prevent carbon formation and helps break it down. 484 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: It's a great double edged sword. Um. From what I 485 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: read and from the experiences I've had, and I've had 486 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: customers have report back as far as what they're seeing 487 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: and experiencing. UM, you know. So yeah, if if this 488 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: were mine, UM, I'll put it to you this way. 489 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: The littlest Nanians car got service yesterday. It was in 490 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: for its oil change. I got a bottle of Berryman 491 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: and I tend to do that at every oil change 492 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: with her. And she got sixty five miles on it 493 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: and still going strong. And I wouldn't expect it not to. 494 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: But you know, knock wood, like I said, nervous father, 495 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: six seven hours on the road. You want to make 496 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: sure it's gonna get there, So I try to give 497 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: her every advantage I can. UM, Berryman's the way to go. 498 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: I'll you're very welcome, Tom. You have a good rest 499 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: of the day. Five five six zero nine zero zero 500 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: running any of the car doctor coming back right after this. 501 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back, weren't name of the car doctor. Let's go 502 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: over to Kelly and Springfield, Illinois. Accord and some problems 503 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: with starting at Kelly. Welcome to the car doctor. How 504 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: can I help? I hope you can. I appreciate your 505 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: show very much. You bet you? Um listen, I got 506 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: acord and the other day, Uh, the wife had some 507 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: kind of problem with the morning she shut it down, 508 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: so she got out and it beat at her like 509 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: it's not supposed to do. And Uh, anyway, she had 510 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: to jump it up at the end of the day, 511 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: got at home and uh, the the push ignition white 512 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: was flashing that the screen would not go off, and 513 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: anybody could start my car. You could go in there 514 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: without a without a fob and start my car. So 515 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: what I did was I disconnected the battery, of course, 516 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: and uh a couple of times the screen asked me. 517 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: It said, uh, depress the the radio audio button for 518 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: two seconds and see if that clears everything up. And 519 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: another time the screen asked me for my security code. 520 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't get my security code from the dealer. And 521 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, after about six disconnects and reconnects, 522 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: the thing started working correctly. But I live in fear 523 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: of it happening again. What can you tell me what 524 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: the trouble is. Yeah, now, let me ask you this. 525 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: When it didn't start for she had the car jump started. Yes, okay. 526 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: So you look at it as a simple button, right, 527 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: that little button on the dash, It's just it's like 528 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: a doorbell, right. I mean, that's that's what you're thinking. 529 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure the truth that the truth can't be any 530 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: further than that. It's there's so much going on when 531 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: you walk up to a smart car, because that's what 532 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: that is. When you walk up to a smart car 533 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: with that key in your pocket, there's an antenna that's 534 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: tracking where you are and whether or not it's really you, 535 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: and whether it's the right key, and as the security 536 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: encryption correct and should it allow about seven different things 537 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: to happen when you aid, reach out, touch the door, 538 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: open it, b sit down in it, and see push 539 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: the start button. There's a lot of things going on. 540 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of signals to I think the average 541 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: start button vehicle incorporates anywhere from four to nine different 542 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: modules just to get the car to start. Yeah, and 543 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: and you know part part of this becomes I would 544 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: tell you it would be worth the price of a 545 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: computer scan to see what fault codes are in the 546 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: system to determine and and maybe you can't at this 547 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: point because you disconnected the battery and erased memory. All right, 548 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: and I understand why you did it. It's just you know, 549 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: that's a there's no other way to say it, Kelly, 550 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: it's it's an old school thought process, and you gotta 551 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: get out of that, alright, brother, It's it's it's got 552 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: to be. It's got to go somewhere. It's got to 553 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: get scan, not not O B D two, but the 554 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: entire vehicle, looking at all the modules and and seeing 555 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 1: what codes are there. At least then you know, it's 556 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: sort of like a stick out your tongue and say, ah, 557 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? You've got a cold. They're gonna 558 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: look at you from top to bottom. Same thing with 559 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: the car. My guess is that you are probably going 560 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: to find out that this is either a module that's 561 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: a problem or most likely a software update I have 562 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: I have read recently where some hondas are having this 563 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: as an issue. There is to my knowledge, one, if 564 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: not two different software flashes they're working on to correct it. 565 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: Um there's a there. It's it's a it's a software issue. 566 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: It's no different then you know that desktop computer yours 567 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: in a Windows update. So I would say it's worth 568 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: the money to go to the dealer, get a flat, 569 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: get a get a scan done, explain the problem, let 570 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: them put it on file, and if it does reoccur, 571 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: it's got to go back right away without this connecting 572 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: the battery to see where the fault occurred and for 573 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: what reason. The reason, the reason anybody could start it 574 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: was there is a safety built in that. You know, 575 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: their their goal is to get you home thinking there's 576 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: a problem with the anti theft system. Their goal is 577 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: to get you home in some way, shape or form 578 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: and not leave you disabled on the side of the road. Um, 579 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not meant to be there on a 580 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: consistent basis that you continue to drive the car, that 581 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: anybody should be able to start it if you follow 582 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, I think your problem exists. It 583 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: may not be rearing its head at this point, but 584 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of lurking in the background, in the depths 585 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: of the software, and I think it's got to be 586 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: looked at at the very least you gotta go to 587 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: the dealer and get you know, stick out your tongue 588 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: and say, let them look at it, put it on file. 589 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: There may be nothing they can do now other than yes, 590 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: we've updated your car to the most current software level, 591 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: or it already is. Or they may say, hey, here's 592 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: a common failure. Let's fix this us and start the 593 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: ball from there. One one or the other's got to happen. 594 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: But you know, then at least you'd sleep at night 595 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: and say I did everything I could possibly do. Yeah, 596 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: of course, of course, So it's always worth it to 597 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: go and have the conversation though, to be a favre Kelly, 598 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of an interesting scenario. Call me back and 599 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: let me know what the end result is. I'm sure 600 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: I would, and I'm sure the other listeners would like 601 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: to hear it as well. Let's see how good a 602 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: job Honda does making a customer happy. So good luck 603 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: to you, sir, Keep me posted and you know where 604 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: to find me. Eight five five zero nine zero zero. 605 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: The car doctors coming back right after this day, Welcome back. 606 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: Why don't they need of the car doctor eight five 607 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero The car doctor seven number I 608 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: wanted to do this at the beginning of the hour, 609 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: ran out of time. Too many calls, well, not too 610 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: many calls, just a lot of calls. You can never 611 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: have too many calls, because that's what we're here for. 612 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: I want to just put this bug in your head 613 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: I always talk about and I will close today with 614 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: good mechanics aren't expensive. Their price is, but customers are 615 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: are are worth their weight in salt, and you've got 616 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: to be a good customer. Overheard a conversation the other 617 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: day and it was basically, my Honda didn't start, and 618 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: then it did. And I don't understand why. She said 619 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: she was talking to a friend at the coffee shop, 620 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: because it was just in at the dealer last month 621 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: and they changed the oil and told me that the 622 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: car was in good shape, and now they want ninety 623 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: dollars to diagnose the problem. I'm not gonna take it 624 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: back until the car stops running. I'll just wait till 625 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: it breaks. There's so much wrong with that statement that 626 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's good that I've only got a 627 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: minute and a half before we end, because there's just 628 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: there's just a lot to talk about. You know what, 629 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: an oil change, it just tells you status at that moment. 630 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: It's no different than going to the doctor sticking out 631 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: your tongue say ah, and God forbid you walk out 632 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: and have a heart attack on the steps. It just 633 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: it can happen if maintenance puts the odds in your favor. 634 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't give you a guarantee. It's like life, all right. 635 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: You get hit. You can get hit across in the 636 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: street by a bus when everybody tells you, hey, everything 637 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: is fine and wonderful. So that being said, give your 638 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: mechanic the best advantage you can. Go in there, let 639 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: them look at things, let them do the maintenance, talk 640 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: to them, get some reports, and work from there. Don't 641 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: be stingy in your information. I'm modinating the car doctor, 642 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive. They are priceless. See it,