WEBVTT - "I'M IN LOVE WITH 200FT MEN"

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hey, is this ivy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing? Ivy?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, is this wile?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>It is? Oh that's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good man? How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. I've got COVID, so this is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>cheering me up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to hear that. How is your COVID experience

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<v Speaker 1>going are you? Is it a mild thing or is

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<v Speaker 1>it a a serious.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty serious. I have a high viral load and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just not been a fun experience for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So, well, what else is going on with you? Ivy?

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<v Speaker 1>It says here, Well, I why don't you tell me?

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<v Speaker 1>I Sometimes I get sick of doing that. It says

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<v Speaker 1>here a thing, and I just want to hear it

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<v Speaker 1>from the person.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. So I thought this would be kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>slighthearted and fun to talk about because I can laugh

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<v Speaker 2>at it. I have a like a fantasy of like

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<v Speaker 2>attraction to giant men and the question like I've told

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<v Speaker 2>a few people about that that are really close to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're always like, oh, so like seven foot and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about like two hundred feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, So like like an actual like giant like Jack

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<v Speaker 1>and the Beanstalk, type character Godzilla vibes. So tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>would it be so like being the Damsel from King Kong?

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<v Speaker 1>Would be like your absolute dream?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. So what I'm curious with this What is the

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<v Speaker 1>closest you can get to that? Is it like just

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<v Speaker 1>a seven foot tall guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so my boyfriend. So I'm five foot three and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm only like one, and my boyfriend is six foot

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<v Speaker 2>three and he's two forty. They're two fifty. So with

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<v Speaker 2>our relationship, you already kind of have like a significant

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<v Speaker 2>high difference. And it's weird because I'm not like I

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<v Speaker 2>see like really tall guys and they're usually really skinny,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not attracted to that. So it's like you're

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<v Speaker 2>either like because I like, I like big guys, like

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<v Speaker 2>not just like gigantic, but like also like kind of bigger, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, like like like heavier, you know, guys who like

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<v Speaker 1>are a little overweight.

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<v Speaker 2>Not overweight. I really like the strong dad bods.

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<v Speaker 1>M yeah, Like it's so, what is attractive? What is

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<v Speaker 1>attractive to you about a two hundred foot tall man?

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<v Speaker 2>Just I guess it's just like the extreme power imbalance

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<v Speaker 2>that exists between the like myself and the giant Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, I don't know, it's it's it's very hot

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<v Speaker 2>that like it's for some reason, there's something about me

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<v Speaker 2>that's valuable to this like godly person, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, interesting, Like like, so the idea that this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is two hundred foot tall, he's a giant, he

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<v Speaker 1>is like you know, to to you to him, you're

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<v Speaker 1>basically like the size of an ant. And yet yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he still cherishes you as if you were his.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. So it's it's it's not just the it's not

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<v Speaker 1>so this is not just like the physical thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also the the implications around it. The godlike stature of

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<v Speaker 1>this two hundred foot tall guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is also it's also definitely like the physical stuff like

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<v Speaker 2>just being like very like helpless and small, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, So can I can I ask? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to get into this territory unless if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to. But how would one even like how

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<v Speaker 1>would a normal sized human even have like a sexual

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with the two hundred foot tall guy? How did

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<v Speaker 1>they even work?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, like sex is out of the question, like normal

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<v Speaker 2>penetrative sex, but like how explicit can I get how E.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposed to do you want me to as explicit as

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<v Speaker 1>he wants?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So a lot of the because there's a few

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<v Speaker 2>like forums that I'm a part of, because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>small community of people that are into you know, giant

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<v Speaker 2>men and tiny women. But a lot of the tropes

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<v Speaker 2>I see are like a dude using the chick as

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<v Speaker 2>like a masturbation aid, like putting her up against his

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<v Speaker 2>dick and like.

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<v Speaker 1>Rubbing one out, you know, like wait, so so so

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<v Speaker 1>when you say, like all right, so, like he has

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<v Speaker 1>you in the palm of his hand and then he

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<v Speaker 1>starts like jacking off. Wouldn't that kill you?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably?

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, so I guess because it's the fantasy, you

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<v Speaker 2>can like you know, shift it whatever you want. And

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time in the scenario is the tiny

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<v Speaker 2>women are kind of like very indestructible, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>they can take a lot because I'm not into like

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<v Speaker 2>the hard stuff where like the woman like gets eaten

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<v Speaker 2>or like dies horribly, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmm hmm h What do you like? Like I

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<v Speaker 1>would think like like the guy would like lay down,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to find you have to find like a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking football field or something where the guy could like

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<v Speaker 1>lay down and you could kind of climb his dick

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<v Speaker 1>like it was like a mountain, like using the veins

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<v Speaker 1>as like grip points and shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, alternatively, there's like the much more feasible option, if

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<v Speaker 2>you could call it that, where the woman is just

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<v Speaker 2>tiny and the man is like regular sized.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so okay, so you right, Okay, So that's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting idea. How would you feel like your boyfriend, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you feel if you got shrunk down to

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny size so to you, he is a giant guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it not? This is that essentially the same thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love it, like as long as I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if I'm like two inches tall and he's

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<v Speaker 2>just normal sized, that'd be amazing. Or alternatively, I'm normal

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<v Speaker 2>sized and he's gigantic.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me more about these forms. What's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>these forms?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's it's really small, like most of the community,

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<v Speaker 2>so the fetish is called macrophilia. Most of the community

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<v Speaker 2>is into like giant tesses and that's just not like

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<v Speaker 2>like large men and small females are so underrepresented. But

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<v Speaker 2>the forums are just like stories like smart and that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So is it frustrating? To you that you have this

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy that is physically impossible to play out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well there so obviously like you can't really play it

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<v Speaker 2>out that much. But there are things like my boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and I that because my boyfriend knows about it and

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<v Speaker 2>he I wouldn't say that he's like super into it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he he definitely like tries it out for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So like one thing is, uh, a few months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>we went to the Red Fair and I found these

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<v Speaker 2>like fairy ears, and so I put them on and

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<v Speaker 2>he thought it was like really hot that I looked

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<v Speaker 2>like like a fairy, and so he like we like

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<v Speaker 2>did like role play kind of to where like I

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<v Speaker 2>was a fairy and he like captured me or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you find Shrek attractive?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, because when I'm imagine I'm imagining, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about this like giant guy, I'm imagining like

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<v Speaker 1>a really tall Shrek.

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<v Speaker 2>No, just like no monsters or anything, just like a

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<v Speaker 2>normal like guy, but he's just like ginormous.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you made friends on these forums?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What what do you talk about with the other people

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<v Speaker 1>on these forms who are into giant people?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really talk to them because I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get too involved with them. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of like a like a stalker on there,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just read the stuff and I don't interact.

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<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned your boyfriend and that he knows about it.

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<v Speaker 1>How does he feel about this whole thing? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you being five to three and him

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<v Speaker 1>being six ' three. That's like the that's pretty that's

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<v Speaker 1>the closest you can kind of get to what you're

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<v Speaker 1>going for in reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We have like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Dominant submissive dynamic, and so to us it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a natural progression to go from, which might sound

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<v Speaker 2>like a like a crazy to a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>but to me and him, it's kind of like just

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<v Speaker 2>an exaggeration of that power. He doesn't like seek it

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<v Speaker 2>on his own, but occasionally he'll be like, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>put on the fairy ears and oh my god, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's so ridiculous to actually like talk about this with somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was so that was gonna be. My next

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<v Speaker 1>question is you know, you've kind of been very like

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<v Speaker 1>bashful about all this throughout the call. Is this something

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<v Speaker 1>that you are like embarrassed about or ashamed of or

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know, talk to a lot of people about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I'm I'm a little bit so because of

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<v Speaker 2>like this barrier of anonymity, I feel like a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more comfortable talking about it. It's a lot harder

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<v Speaker 2>to get it out of me, like in person. And

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it doesn't help because the first person I

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<v Speaker 2>ever told, uh, told about it was my first boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and he was very like emotionally abusive, and he would

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<v Speaker 2>use it against me and call me like a fucking like.

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<v Speaker 3>Freaking weirdo and nobody would love me, you know, shit

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, so I I am a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>hesitant to bring it up, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well listen, I'm I'm happy for you that you

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<v Speaker 1>found a new person who seems like they're they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>more willing to lean into it with you and not

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<v Speaker 1>use it against you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I really appreciated that about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Ivy, Is there anything else about this whole thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you want to share now that you

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<v Speaker 1>are in a place where you're comfortable getting it off

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<v Speaker 1>your chest.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hope that you know people, because it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that I've repressed for so long and I'm just now

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<v Speaker 2>coming to accept it as part of me. So if

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<v Speaker 2>there's like other people that kind of have those feelings

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<v Speaker 2>and just like feel embarrassed or I guess any kink

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<v Speaker 2>for that matter, as long as it's not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>harmful to anyone. She I mean sorry, people should just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, embrace it and kind of explore, because I

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I do when I was kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>on this journey of discovering why I'm into it, I

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<v Speaker 2>would just like kind of think about why am I

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<v Speaker 2>into this and will it affect me long term? So

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what I'm just trying to say is embraced

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<v Speaker 2>like who you are, and there are communities out there

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<v Speaker 2>for everything. Just be safe with those.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for calling. I appreciate it. Yeah, have a

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<v Speaker 1>good night, you too, O. Man, Ivy really looked out

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<v Speaker 1>with the six to three boyfriend in that scenario. I

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<v Speaker 1>do wonder what it is like to have a deep

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<v Speaker 1>sexual fantasy for something that is not compatible with reality,

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<v Speaker 1>such as a two hundred foot person. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean listen, one of these days, you know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to you know, Ivy's gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>hop on VR with some kind of like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and have some kind of virtual experience where she can

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<v Speaker 1>have sex with a two hundred foot guy. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what would be tragic is if that happened and

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<v Speaker 1>then she was like, oh, this actually isn't as great

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<v Speaker 1>as I thought it would be. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing with a lot of fantasies, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>to spit on here. But but is the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>it's just out of reach? Is that what keeps it compelling?

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<v Speaker 1>Almost such that if if there did exist two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>foot men and she did finally have an experience with them,

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<v Speaker 1>it would almost ruin the fantasy that it becomes reality. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks you, thank you, thank you Ivy for sharing. Glad

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<v Speaker 1>that we could create a form where people are down

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about having sex with two hundred foot giants. Hello, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>is this Devon?

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<v Speaker 2>It is?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on with you? Devon?

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<v Speaker 5>Not much, just showing at home right now drinking?

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<v Speaker 1>How many drinks, Steve?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we.

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<v Speaker 5>Three mixers and three beers?

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<v Speaker 1>Three mixed drinks and three beers. Okay, so you're you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably pretty drunk right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Eh, got a nice little bu's going.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we can work with you, We can work with

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<v Speaker 1>a buzz, Devin, it says you're that you've been having

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<v Speaker 1>crazy dreams that are predicting the future.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I'm just gonna I'm gonna say, like the ones

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<v Speaker 5>that I remember the most, there was one where it

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<v Speaker 5>was like gym time, and I had a dream, like

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<v Speaker 5>probably like three months before the event happened, that this

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<v Speaker 5>kid threw a basketball at my nuts and I was

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<v Speaker 5>in the same like everything was in the same scenario

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<v Speaker 5>as my dream, and I told myself, I'm like, oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta prepare myself. This guy's gonna throw the ball

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<v Speaker 5>at my nuts. So I like covered my crotch and

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<v Speaker 5>he fucking threw the ball right at my crotch, and

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<v Speaker 5>I because my dream, it saved my nuts that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, that's one.

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<v Speaker 5>That's one dream that's pretty crazy, and then there's another.

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<v Speaker 5>This one was crazy because it was actually with someone.

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<v Speaker 5>I was with my friend. We're up north duck hunting

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<v Speaker 5>and we drove past this gas station. I had it

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<v Speaker 5>in a dream that there was this blue pick or

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<v Speaker 5>a green pickup truck that crashed into the gas station.

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<v Speaker 5>And I told my buddy that I'm like, dude, I

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<v Speaker 5>had a dream.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never been there before. I'm like, I had a

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<v Speaker 5>dream a green pickup truck crashing this gas station. He's like,

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<v Speaker 5>he's like, yeah, that's kind of weird. And uh So, anyways,

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<v Speaker 5>we get done duck hunting and his mom I'm called,

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<v Speaker 5>called his phone and she's like, are you guys okay

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<v Speaker 5>or like yeah, we're just driving back and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a huge accident at the gas station. A truck

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<v Speaker 5>ran into it, and we drove past. There's a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of ambulances and shit, and there's a green pickup and

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<v Speaker 5>my buddy just looked at me and he's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 5>that's fucking freaky. And I'm like, yeah, I don't I

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<v Speaker 5>don't even know what to say about it. Just I've

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<v Speaker 5>had I've had a multiple dreams like that, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>just it's kind of freaky.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Are those are those the two the

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<v Speaker 1>two scenarios in which it's come true? Or has this

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<v Speaker 1>happened to you many times? Many times?

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<v Speaker 5>There's another one where I was taking tests and I

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<v Speaker 5>wrote some answers on my hand, which you know you

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<v Speaker 5>probably shouldn't do, but I didn't study, so I was

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<v Speaker 5>being lazy, and I wrote my answers on my hand,

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<v Speaker 5>and in the dream I got caught because the teacher left,

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<v Speaker 5>but then he said he had to go talk to someone.

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<v Speaker 5>And but in my dream he came back for some

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<v Speaker 5>reason and he caught me like looking at my hand.

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<v Speaker 5>So then it was the same like scene that was

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<v Speaker 5>in my dream, and I was like, oh fuck, I

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<v Speaker 5>shouldn't look at my hand, but I didn't look at

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<v Speaker 5>my hand. And then also he walked back in just

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<v Speaker 5>as I put my hand away, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a bunch of stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really weird.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I also have a lot of fucked up

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<v Speaker 5>dreams too.

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<v Speaker 1>Do the fucked up dreams ever come true? Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>Gladly No, They're they're full of very gore and brutal stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I guess it's very good that they're not

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<v Speaker 1>coming true. So since these two of them's so, since

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<v Speaker 1>these these events have been happening where you've been dreaming

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<v Speaker 1>things and they've been coming true, has has this put

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<v Speaker 1>you on edge at all? Because I mean, look, you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying you're having these gory dreams about fucked up shit happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever have a dream of something fucked up happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh shit, well, these other two dreams

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<v Speaker 1>came true, is there a chance that this one might

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<v Speaker 1>come true?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Bless you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I have I get pretty bad anxiety because like

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes they don't always come true, and I'll be like

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<v Speaker 5>I'll get the deja voo and then I'll just be

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<v Speaker 5>like super on edge, like because some of them will

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<v Speaker 5>be like the kind of gory stuff or like the

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<v Speaker 5>brutal stuff where like someone gets murdered, and then I'll

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<v Speaker 5>just be like freaking the fuck. Oh, I'll be like

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<v Speaker 5>is this gonna actually happen? And then luckily it doesn't,

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<v Speaker 5>and yeah, it's just crazy, but yeah. And then I

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<v Speaker 5>looked it up because like the glory dreams, like because

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<v Speaker 5>I talked to a couple of my friends and they're like,

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<v Speaker 5>they're like, yeah, that's kind of fucked up, because like

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<v Speaker 5>apparently none of my other friends have like super gory

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<v Speaker 5>and like detailed dreams that they remember. And I looked

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<v Speaker 5>it up and it was like supposedly like nightmare syndrome

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<v Speaker 5>and what it said it is like it comes from trauma,

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<v Speaker 5>but I've never really had any trauma, so I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know where that comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you looked up dreams that predict real life events?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not. I probably should do that because it's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of them. No, probably, I don't know. There's there's

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<v Speaker 5>a good amount that have come true where it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of it ful weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these are definitely you know, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because these are definitely freaky scenarios.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the kids, the truck one really was over

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<v Speaker 5>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the truck one was crazy. The I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>football thing also pretty crazy. It's interesting because I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm skeptical, right, I'm not a you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a spirit guy. I'm not everything happens for a reason. Guy. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not really like deterministic in my thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>about things happening in the universe. But you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>what you tell me is true, then I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it is just a couple of very freaky coincidences.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do you think. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>you are genuinely predicting the future here or these coincidences?

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<v Speaker 5>I think a little bit. Maybe it's I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if like our minds can like because like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>this is just from like Facebook and shit, but like

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<v Speaker 5>our our brain only works like thirty percent or ten

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<v Speaker 5>percent of what it actually does and like limitally it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe it's just like every so and so it just

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<v Speaker 5>like can predict the future or like foreshadow because like

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<v Speaker 5>biologically our bodies are designed to like survive. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just crazy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks for sharing all this. Man, does this ever

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<v Speaker 1>like give you We kind of touched on this a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but I mean, day to day, does it

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<v Speaker 1>give you anxiety to think that you might have a

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<v Speaker 1>dream that might come true of some fucking weird thing.

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<v Speaker 5>A little bit like and then like some of the

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<v Speaker 5>some of the dreams I have, like I'll be awake

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<v Speaker 5>and I'll like it's weird because like I go on

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<v Speaker 5>like third person and like this is gonna sound really

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<v Speaker 5>fucked up. But like I was shopping with my older

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<v Speaker 5>brother and then all of a sudden, like I just

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<v Speaker 5>like I saw like someone just like walk up to

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<v Speaker 5>him and start stabbing him, and I just like and

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<v Speaker 5>then all of a sudden, like I came to and

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<v Speaker 5>then like noise came back, and then I was just

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<v Speaker 5>like that didn't happen. It was just like some like

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<v Speaker 5>there's a couple of times where it's happened when I'm awake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, m hm, So this thing of of of you

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<v Speaker 1>in third person watching you or watching you watch your

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<v Speaker 1>brother get stabbed. This happened while you were awake.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we're shopping somewhere that this was a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>And like I think it was with a pencil too,

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<v Speaker 5>just like some random person was just starting like stabbing

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<v Speaker 5>him and I'm just like and I couldn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just like frozen, and I was like watching

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<v Speaker 5>It is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like now we're in the territory where both

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<v Speaker 1>of us are trying to be science y in ways

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<v Speaker 1>that we have no business being. But do you have

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<v Speaker 1>like a narcolepsy or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, I'm not sure that'd be crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be crazy. Go to a guy, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know whatever. Go to a party, go to

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, go to someone who does sleep stuff, see

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. I think it'd be worth it if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you're passing out in the middle of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking about your brother getting stead Sorry, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you said?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I talked to one of my friends and she

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<v Speaker 5>she uh, suggested that.

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<v Speaker 4>I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's a good idea therapist or something,

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I just might do that. Devin, is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything else you want to say to the people of

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<v Speaker 1>the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to say, if you have someone that

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<v Speaker 5>you love, if it's something they want to do, whether

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<v Speaker 5>it's like something silly, just like and you don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to do it, just kind of do it to like

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<v Speaker 5>because they want to do it, you know. And then

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<v Speaker 5>just like, even if it's something like stupid like go

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<v Speaker 5>dancing in the rain or go get ice creaming you

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to, just do it, just kind of be

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<v Speaker 5>there for them, you know, because you never know what

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<v Speaker 5>someone's going through.

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<v Speaker 2>And then.

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<v Speaker 5>If I could just give a shout out to my

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 5>buddy I and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Loves your.

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<v Speaker 5>Podcast too, and he's a big fan. We've been following

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<v Speaker 5>you since he started this so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you man, Thank you to Ian. Those are nice words.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, go with the flow, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like it, because you care about the person

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<v Speaker 1>wanting ice cream. It's nice. Oh yeah, yeah, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for calling Devon.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I hope you have a great rest of

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<v Speaker 5>your night, Bud.

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<v Speaker 1>You too.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>That was interesting from devon these dreams. Like I said, I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we get spiritually this is I wouldn't put

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<v Speaker 1>this into the spiritual category, but it's definitely freaky and crap.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that?

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<v Speaker 1>What was his name?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>I fuck? I don't know names of people, but whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And the caller, he definitely did. He wasn't leaning into

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<v Speaker 1>the idea. That's what I thought it was interesting about

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<v Speaker 1>this call is this caller was not leaning into the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that he has some kind of psychic He is

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<v Speaker 1>not convinced of his own abilities. He's in the midst

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<v Speaker 1>of wrestling with them, which I find very fascinating. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that he does go to a sleep person

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<v Speaker 1>thing and figure out what's going on, because it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like there's something going on and I would be curious

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<v Speaker 1>to know what that is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yellow.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, is this Tray?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Tray?

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<v Speaker 4>So basically, man, I'm going to go from like a

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<v Speaker 4>ten thousand people school to a three hundred people school,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I got kicked out. I made some

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<v Speaker 4>bad decisions and basically this has been one of the

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<v Speaker 4>most roughest years of my life because I'm losing credits

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm going from a big campus to a small

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<v Speaker 4>campus and they don't have as many classes, as many electives,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and my parents are really they're really mad

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<v Speaker 4>at me. You know, they weren't. They weren't mad at

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<v Speaker 4>me at the start. You know, they told me everyone

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<v Speaker 4>makes mistakes. But now I'm losing like a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>things that I had going for me, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just just kind of I don't know. I live

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 4>in a I live in a really unpopulated place in Georgia,

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 4>and my parents, you know, I'm a very smart kid,

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 4>and this is going to be my senior year, so

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So you're eighteen years old, a senior in

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>high school.

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<v Speaker 4>And you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're kicked out of where you were going in place

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<v Speaker 1>to a smaller class. How recently were you kicked out?

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<v Speaker 4>I was kicked out. Let me think it had to

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<v Speaker 4>be April April because it was my birthday, So April.

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 4>It was two weeks before my birthday, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said that a lot of the things you

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<v Speaker 1>had going for you have been ruined by this. What

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>were some of those things? Okay?

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 4>So I'm actually very good encoding. I want to pursue

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 4>cyber technology, making scripts and writing code, and I have.

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 4>I was on the way to get at least like

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 4>five credits into different technology classes. And the school I'm

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 4>going to doesn't have any electives at all, so I

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 4>can't continue that unless I do I go to another

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 4>school and there's not one near me.

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 5>So well literally move.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that so let's get into that. Really really

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>is that? Is that the main one or are there others?

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to things that you had going for you?

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>That's the main one, is the coding thing. Okay, So

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>what is it that you wanted to do with coding exactly?

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>You said you wanted to go into you know, iation technology.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry if if you could repeat that.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually enjoy I actually enjoy writing games. That was

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 4>one of the things I like doing. I know that's

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 4>kind of like cliche, but it actually is fun to

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 4>make video games, like hand old video games. I enjoy

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 4>that a lot.

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, Trey, you know, uh, here's some great news for you, man,

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>is that you know, there are there are a few

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>careers out there that really require you to go to school.

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>And luckily you can learn how to code on fucking

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>YouTube and you don't need to be in any sort

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of formal school to know how to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just get. I just get. So the whole reason

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just calling you, I just I've made my parents

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 4>so disappointed in me and the surrounding family, and I'm

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of just at the point where, you know, if

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't figure out something to show on paper to them,

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 4>that they're not going to be proud of me at all.

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 4>I wake up every day and see failure, you know

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. It's just they they don't even look

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 4>at me the same. And I know that's kind of

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 4>that sounds like bad painting, but it kind of is

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 4>because they don't. They don't show the same kind of

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 4>hierarchy to me as they did before. And it's just

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 4>like what did they get? You know what I mean?

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I have a couple of things that I'm feeling,

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>is well, Okay, when we first started this, you said

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>to me, you said to me, you said, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>smart guy. So clearly you have, you know, outside of

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>what your parents think of you at this very moment,

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you have and maybe it fluctuates day to day, but

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>it's there, this rock of self esteem and rock of

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>knowledge that you are a capable human being, or else

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have said that little thing that you know

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that you're smart. Yeah, so that's there.

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<v Speaker 4>I it's just you know, every year at the awards ceremonies,

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.720
<v Speaker 4>I've taken them things. I've always been a straight a student.

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 4>And I don't want to tell. I don't want to

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 4>say what I got kicked off for. What was pretty bad,

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 4>but I made a dumb decision. I shouldn't have done

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 4>what I did. And they they were cool with it

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 4>for about I'd say two weeks. They were cool with

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 4>me getting kicked out, and then it came to what

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 4>school are you gonna do to? What are you going

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 4>to do with your life? Are you? Are you serious

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 4>right now? You get yourself kicked out? Are you kidding me?

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 4>It's just the things like that, Like my dad he was,

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 4>he was so chill with me when they when they

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 4>were in the meeting room with our headmaster or whatever,

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 4>and he just, you know, he was like, we're going

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 4>to get through this, We're gonna we're gonna be better.

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 4>And then after that it just went out the roof,

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. I'm sorry to get kind

0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 4>of emotionally because like I'm.

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, no yeah, sorry, that big deal. No no, no no,

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>uh makes you happy to talk to you about this stuff.

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 1>So your mom and your dad, uh, do they both

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>have similar feelings? Uh?

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Towards that situation.

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<v Speaker 4>My mom was more comforting in the beginning, and then

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 4>you know she because I'm I. I've always been her babe,

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, her little everything. And then all of a sudden,

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 4>my dad he wants to come in, and I feel

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 4>like maybe it is leaning more towards my dad because

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 4>he's always thought high way of me and he's always

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 4>been proud of me, and then all of a sudden he.

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:49.879
<v Speaker 5>Just takes it away.

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>M hm hm.

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<v Speaker 4>These uh. I do you think my mom is I

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.399
<v Speaker 4>think she's of leading on the side of I think

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 4>my mom is kind of leading on the side of

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 4>she's she's got like she believes in me still, but

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 4>I don't think my dad really does. And I think

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 4>my dad really thinks I'm a failure and everything. I

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 4>don't know, what do you.

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Tell me this? So try tell me this that your

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:32.320
<v Speaker 1>parents proudness in you, what do you believe it is

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 1>based on?

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<v Speaker 4>I'd have to say with my mom, she's just proud

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 4>of me in general, of me doing you know, anything, anything,

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 4>And my dad, I think it would have to be

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 4>a materialistic value. You know, he's only proud of me

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 4>when I do something that is beneficial to my life

0:36:56.760 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 4>or beneficial to him as a person that may him

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 4>look good. I don't think it was ever necessarily him

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:08.399
<v Speaker 4>being proud of something that made me benefit. I think

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 4>he's selfish. That's that's basically the root of it. I

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 4>think my dad's selfish. He's a he's like a bread winner.

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 4>And I just I I've thought about dropping out because

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 4>I know that there is careers like that. But at

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 4>the same time, I know it's just going to make

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 4>it ten times worse for me because he's just going

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 4>to think ten times more that I'm a failure. But

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 4>at the same time, I just want to shove it

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 4>in his face that I've graduated and I've done what

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 4>I knew I could because I am smart, I make

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 4>good grades. I just made a dumb decision. And my

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 4>dumb decision had nothing to do with academics, you know,

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 4>it was just a dumb It was just a dumb thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, I don't care what I did. I smoked weed

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 4>in the bathroom and they saw.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Really that's it. You smoked weight in the bathroom. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>tray tray tray tray, tray tray tray.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, let me tell you something. Okay, you you have

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>as I said before, you have uh and you know this,

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 1>your confidence in yourself, it's there. I'm sure fluctuates. I'm

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>sure that there are still external factors that influence it.

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>That would be better if it didn't influence it. All

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you should do is water that internal confidence.

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>You're lucky that it's that it's there, and now all

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you have to do is is water it. Your father

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>only seeing only having pride in you based on materialistic

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>things is very much his problem. And you're not going

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to arrive at this overnight. You're extremely young. But eventually,

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>over time, as you do your thing and pursue what

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>is important to you, as you know that you will,

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I think you will develop a calmness when you think

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of your relationship with your father, if that makes sense,

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>like like you'll come to peace with this whole thing

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 1>of like my dad only sees value in me from

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>material objects and like you know, God bless him that

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>has no effect on me and my life and my confidence,

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:02.760
<v Speaker 1>because my confidence, my life, my self esteem, my pride

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>in myself comes from things that I know and I

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>believe to be true. Comes from things that are important

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>to me. You know, I don't know what is important

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to you. In fact, let's get into that real quick.

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>What is it that makes you proud of yourself?

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 4>You know, when I accomplish something that like I've been

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 4>wanting to do, like when I get learned a new skill,

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 4>or when i'm when I finally you know, figure something out.

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, the biggest I think the biggest accomplishment of

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 4>my life was you know, becoming good as something. You know,

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 4>just in general, I like to like to just be

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 4>good at things, you know, Like I don't ever want

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 4>to just look at myself and say I can't do it.

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 4>I want to try and do it. I don't know,

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 4>I just feel like I feel like this was like

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 4>a big just like a bump in the road for

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 4>me because I've always had the mentality of if you

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 4>want it, go get it, And now I can't.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Why why can't you? What do you mean you can't?

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 4>I just there's just so much holding me back. I've

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 4>literally I if I moved out, you know, I'm gonna

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 4>get harassed by my dad and he's just gonna he's

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 4>just gonna just just disown me. If if I tried

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 4>and to not pass school, you know, he's just gonna

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 4>be in my ear about it. I just, I just

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 4>I just want to do my best while I can.

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:44.879
<v Speaker 4>And if my best is not good enough for him'm

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 4>actually you know, he can screw it now that I

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 4>think about it, because I've done I've done it, I've

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 4>done the most I can do. I'm generally like the

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 4>perfect son to him. He has leave the bathroom because

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 4>I was trying to get high. Get high, bro. It

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 4>felt good, it did, it felt good. I hate a blinker.

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 4>And the only reason they found out is because I

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 4>still I fill out in the middle class.

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Tray please, tray, tray, if if please, let if if no,

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>if nobody in your life or who you've been talking

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to in the past few weeks has has told you

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>this yet I am honored to to hope, hopefully not

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>be the first. But I am honored to tell you

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that although you smoked weed in a bathroom, there is

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 1>remains many, many, many, many many opportunities UH for for

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:46.919
<v Speaker 1>you to be successful in life, that that uh does

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 1>absolutely nothing to define you in any way at all.

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.919
<v Speaker 1>I think it's horrible that you feel as though it does,

0:42:55.320 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's such a nothing thing. I smoke weed in

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>bathrooms all the time every day, and things are going

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty decent. Dude. Please don't, please, please please don't let

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>this be dude, Please, please don't let this change your

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>perspective of yourself and and and your opportunities in life.

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Please don't. I know that because you're like I remember

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>being in high fucking high school and everything was like

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>life and death and shit. But please, I'm telling you

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 1>it's not. Please don't feel this way. Even if your

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>dad is trying to get you to feel this way,

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:41.839
<v Speaker 1>or your mom or whatever guidance counselor person is trying

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to get you to feel this way. The world does

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>not work like that. Even though you have people around

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 1>you convincing you it does, it really doesn't. And you're

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>not some fucking guy who you know. We can all

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>tell that you have the desire to do shit and

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 1>that's all that you need. Man. You have that you

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>have the Internet at your disposal. You have all the

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 1>infinite resources you could possibly need to learn these skills

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that you want to learn, and dude, fucking go for it. Please,

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>please don't let the fact that you got suspended when

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you were eighteen for smoking weed in the bathroom have

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 1>any effect on your belief as to what you can

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.919
<v Speaker 1>do with your life moving forward. I mean, that's crazy. Man.

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>You're going to look back on this when you're twenty

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.760
<v Speaker 1>four and you're gonna be like that was funny.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to know something else is really fucked up

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 4>about this situation.

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Sure, my girlfriend of.

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 4>Six months that I was dating, we met in middle

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 4>school and we've been like best friends only lest you

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 4>definitely popped through the question, you know, do you do

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 4>you think you want to be more than friends? The

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 4>day that I got kicked out of school, I was

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 4>blocked on everything. Her mother called me, told me to

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:10.479
<v Speaker 4>come and get some of my things from our house

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 4>and that she didn't want to be involved with her

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 4>daughter anymore at all. And I have And that was

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 4>that was That was.

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Trey, Man, you're cutting out a little bit. But are

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you saying that she dumped you because you got caught

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 1>smoking weed in the bathroom?

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Yes, exactly exactly, And I think it was.

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Tray, listen, I know that, try, I know that you

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 1>know you're you're in high school and this ship all

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>feels very very real right now. But dude, yes, dude,

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, dude, you know you know it's funny. Man,

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>it's fun talking to you because I I remember, like,

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>because I did shit like that, you know, fucking taking

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 1>weed edibles and going to class and shit. And it's

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 1>just like you at this period in your life, you're

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>living in such a like defined so like everything in

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>high school, like there's this rule book and if it's

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>against the rules, it's bad, and if it isn't, it's

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting grades is good and smoking weed is bad.

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 1>And in the real world there's no fucking binaries of

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 1>rules of things like this. I'm fucking kind of rambling here,

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>but dude, if anything, bottom line, Tray, can I tell

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you this bottom line? Focus on what you want.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>You seem like you want to pursue skills, seem like

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you want to learn it, seems like you want to

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>pursue coding, you want to make games, you want to

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:53.879
<v Speaker 1>do things like that. Dude, Just do that. Don't get

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>all in your head. Don't let your dad get in

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>your head. Don't let this girl get in your head.

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't let the school thing get in your head, don't

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>your mom get in your head. Just really focus on

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 1>going on YouTube, going on Reddit, whatever it is, where

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you can learn how to do the things that you

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>want to do. And when you get out into the

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:17.960
<v Speaker 1>real world, you'll learn that. You know, as long as

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:21.240
<v Speaker 1>you have this skill that you can use to provide

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>value to other people, nobody's gonna give up. Fuck if

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you smoked weed in the bathroom, and I'm sure eventually

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you will find a nice girl to hang out and

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:35.919
<v Speaker 1>smoke weed in bathrooms with. So please, man, I'm really

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>telling you, please, don't let your dad or your mom

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 1>or anything. I'm saying it again because I really believe it.

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Don't let any these people get into your head. Man,

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Just don't. All right, please take it from me. Man,

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Like you seem like this, learning these skills is important

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>to you. Just hunker down and do that. Don't let

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 1>anyone else get into your head, and you're gonna find

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 1>yourself in a much much mony. It's gonna take time,

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna find yourself in a much better position

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>a few years from now, where you'll be able to

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.720
<v Speaker 1>look back on this and it'll be funny. And also,

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, at this age, when you're reliant on your

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:17.880
<v Speaker 1>parents for things, your relationship with them is so much different.

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>And I promise you, when you eventually do get to

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the point, as I know you will, because you are

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a smart guy, and you are you know, inclined towards

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:33.280
<v Speaker 1>making something of yourself and learning skills to provide value,

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you will eventually make enough money to live on your own,

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 1>to eat food on your own, to pay for your

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:42.360
<v Speaker 1>own fucking phone bill, and you won't need your parents financially.

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 1>And when that happens, your relationship with them is gonna

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:49.800
<v Speaker 1>be so much better because it'll all be elective. You

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>won't need anything from them, and it'll be so much better.

0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if any of the things I'm saying

0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to you are fascinating, but.

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Let me just tell you one thing. It was like

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 4>it was a good process for me that I got

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 4>to do this because I just I really like, I

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 4>really like bonding with people, you know, because they make

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:18.440
<v Speaker 4>me feel a lot better, a lot better about myself,

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 4>and the chat like really boosting my ego a little bit.

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I sound a lot happier now. I

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 4>just I just like this made my day sometimes better,

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 4>my weak even maybe even my mud because I haven't

0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 4>really been talking to anybody. I've been really secluded. I've

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 4>just been kind of doing my own thing, and I

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 4>feel like I need to get out and try to

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 4>make something better of myself because I actually was being

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:47.320
<v Speaker 4>that failure that he told me I was, So you

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.320
<v Speaker 4>know what, I just thank you, thank you.

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm happy that this happened.

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Good man, thank you for talking to me about that.

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually, yeah, if I.

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 4>Want to smoke fat ass dad pen after this, I

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:05.879
<v Speaker 4>will because I'm about to get high at fuck, That's

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 4>what I'm gonna do. And fuck if he walks in

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 4>my room, I'm a laugh at e. I'm a laugh atty.

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm gonna do.

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Trey, listen, man, you know, I'm glad I got to

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:17.760
<v Speaker 1>talk to you too, because I just did. I remember

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>fucking being in high school and everyone had their sort

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>of idea of what success was and whatnot, and I

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 1>felt really constrained by it. And I don't know, I

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>hope that you, you know, find it in yourself to

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.239
<v Speaker 1>define what success is for yourself and pursue it and

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>not let anyone else get in your head about it.

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 4>And I won't. I won't. I'm gonna do better than

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 4>this day.

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 4>Fuck what other people say.

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm loosted up, bro, I'm.

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Bost up, Trey, Is there anything else you want to

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>say to the people of the computer before we go?

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 4>Fuck bitches, get money.

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for calling, Trey. You're welcome, Love you, love all Youah,

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Try try There's one important thing I forgot to tell you.

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:13.799
<v Speaker 2>Try.

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:15.360
<v Speaker 1>There's one important thing I forgot to tell you. And

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and I and I sort of there's one important thing

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I forgot to tell you, and I I I this

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>is important. Try so listen to this cause I didn't

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you this because I was hearing I was hearing

0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:38.439
<v Speaker 1>this in your voice a little bit. Don't go into

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the whole. At the very end, you were all like, well,

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>fuck my dad and fuck my mom and fuck them

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and fuck this and fuck you and fuck these people

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and funck all this. Don't don't. I understand the inclination

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to have that. I understand the inclination to have that

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 1>be a guiding force for you, because you know it

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 1>riles you up and gets you motivated. But it's not

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 1>a sustainable form of energy, and it only will reinforce

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:18.520
<v Speaker 1>their role as puppet masters in your life. So if

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you're listening, don't you know, don't go and make a

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 1>bunch of successful video games or apps, or get a

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:31.160
<v Speaker 1>job you really wanted or anything like that in the

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 1>name of proving your parents wrong. That's not a good

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:41.240
<v Speaker 1>reason to do things, and it still holds you captive

0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>to their grasp. Do it because you want to do it,

0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Do it because you believe in yourself. Don't do it

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 1>for them. Treat your parents with nothing but love and appreciation.

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 1>And part of that love and appreciation is disagreeing with

0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>them their ideas of what success and failure is. But

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>don't let yourself, you know, don't let your train run

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:11.320
<v Speaker 1>on the energy of you know, fuck them and I

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 1>want to prove them wrong because it's not going to

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 1>work out for you doing that. That was all I

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 1>had left to say. What is going on with you, Molina?

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm just hanging out, you know, just as usual.

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm about to maybe go in the pool with my

0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 3>nieces and my sister, and the only person here who

0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 3>knows who you are is my brother.

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:38.479
<v Speaker 1>That's totally fine. Uh well, Melina, is there a reason

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>why you called in today, anything in particular you wanted

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to talk about. Yeah?

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I just recently started becoming a stripper.

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 3>I live in San Diego, so I strip in San Diego.

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:53.839
<v Speaker 3>So I figured there was probably a lot of things

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 3>we could talk about with me being a baby stripper.

0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, tell me those things. What, uh well, what inspired

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>you to start to start stripping?

0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 5>Well?

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 3>What inspired me? Well, I mean, I don't know if

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 3>this is going to sound just like totally awful, but

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.440
<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of people listening will probably relate.

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 3>I've kind of like always wanted to be a stripper.

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:19.920
<v Speaker 3>So I was probably in like third grade when I'm

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:22.400
<v Speaker 3>in Love with a Stripper came out. And you know,

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 3>I grew up with five older sisters. As you can

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:29.399
<v Speaker 3>hear in the background, I have a gigantic family. And yeah,

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:31.719
<v Speaker 3>and on that note, my aunt also used to be

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:34.720
<v Speaker 3>a stripper when I was in high school. She actually

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 3>used to dance at the same club that I dance

0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:40.440
<v Speaker 3>at now. So I mean, there's just a lot of reasons.

0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 3>My mom used to be a dance instructor before I

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:46.840
<v Speaker 3>was born, and like my first concert was like eminem

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:49.760
<v Speaker 3>and Little John east Side Boys. When I was nine,

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 3>my mom took me, So yeah, I mean it's kind

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:55.439
<v Speaker 3>of like why not. But I also had some things

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:57.960
<v Speaker 3>happen in life where like I had to come up

0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:00.720
<v Speaker 3>with a lot of money really quickly, and I couldn't

0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 3>work like normal business hours because I come from like

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:05.759
<v Speaker 3>the corporate world, and I also used to manage like

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:09.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot of different things. So it's not like, you know,

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I needed to be a stripper, but I did for

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.160
<v Speaker 3>the money and I did for the hours, and it

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:16.360
<v Speaker 3>just was something I always wanted to do. And the

0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:18.359
<v Speaker 3>bad thing that happened in my life kind of led

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:21.360
<v Speaker 3>me to like this one good thing in my eyes,

0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:23.440
<v Speaker 3>which is a silver lining that I get to do

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:24.600
<v Speaker 3>something I've always wanted to do.

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 1>So you said that you've always wanted to do this.

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 1>It says you're twenty seven years old. Why did you

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 1>wait until you know, so late to pursue this, Well,

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty.

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Six, almost twenty seven. But because I was always in

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 3>like relationships and like long term ones. You know, I

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:50.320
<v Speaker 3>was in one for a really long time when I

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:52.920
<v Speaker 3>was in high school. So for about eight years, my

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 3>high school sweetheart and I were together until I was

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:58.799
<v Speaker 3>about twenty three, and then you know, like a few

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 3>things in between, you know, us breaking up, there a

0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:04.280
<v Speaker 3>few different like relationships, but then another long term relationship

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 3>which ends up being the father of my child. So

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:09.800
<v Speaker 3>I also have a ten month old son, So it's like,

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:13.320
<v Speaker 3>that's actually what happened. Where now I need to you know,

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 3>come up with money really quickly. Is I'm I'm in

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:18.719
<v Speaker 3>a custody battle for my son right now, and I

0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:20.799
<v Speaker 3>can't pay the lawyer's fees and I can't pay all

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff. So I was like, hey, I

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 3>mean it's legal, it's a license, Like I talked to

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 3>my lawyer about it, So it just kind of seemed

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.319
<v Speaker 3>like the right thing to do. Like it was also

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 3>not gonna lie like a pain point for my for

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 3>the father and my child. For my baby daddy. He

0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 3>was always like, oh, like, you cannot do that. Even

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.320
<v Speaker 3>though I'd ask him. He wouldn't let me have only fans,

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, he wouldn't let me dance. So now it's like,

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:46.320
<v Speaker 3>not only do I get to do that because like

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:50.680
<v Speaker 3>we're apart, but now like I need to because.

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:53.719
<v Speaker 2>He's taking me through this nasty custody battle, so you.

0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Know it kind of so.

0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Wh how long have you been in this custom city

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>battle for?

0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Since my baby was six months old? So five months now, okay?

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 1>And you are not on good terms with the father?

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:15.879
<v Speaker 3>No, we're not on good terms with each other.

0:57:16.640 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see his parents because the father is a

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 3>lot younger than me.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, do you see yourself being able to eventually

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 1>work this out and get it to a less stressful place?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely. I mean I feel like it's actually leveling

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:39.880
<v Speaker 3>out right now, Like I have my next court dates

0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 3>coming up. It's leveling out right now. I see my

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:45.320
<v Speaker 3>son a lot, and so that's good.

0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:46.200
<v Speaker 4>And the time that I.

0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:49.000
<v Speaker 3>See my son's only going to increase, So like that

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:51.760
<v Speaker 3>part of the situation is really bad. But like I said,

0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:53.800
<v Speaker 3>just trying to like look at the silver lining, which

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 3>is like, this is something I've always wanted to do

0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:58.240
<v Speaker 3>and now I get to do it, and it's also

0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 3>helping me get through my situation. So I feel like

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:02.640
<v Speaker 3>it's almost leveling out right now.

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>And and the the relationship with the father of the child,

0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, is it is it sort of catastrophic to

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 1>a point where you know, you don't think it will

0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:18.480
<v Speaker 1>settle down and you guys will be able to co

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:21.000
<v Speaker 1>parent together, because it's I feel like that's got to

0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>be difficult if you're not in a situation where you

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 1>know you're not even on speaking terms with the father

0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of your child, because you guys have so many things

0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:32.240
<v Speaker 1>that you know you have to work out between each other,

0:58:35.480 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 1>right right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that eventually it will because and that's getting

0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:42.320
<v Speaker 3>into something like a lot like different and deeper, which

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:44.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, hey, we can get into it, but we

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:46.440
<v Speaker 3>me and him, like we have a lot of the

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:48.960
<v Speaker 3>same beliefs, Like I like to say even now, like

0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:50.720
<v Speaker 3>there's a reason I chose him to be the father

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 3>of my child, Like I do have like faith and

0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 3>trust in him, and like we do have a lot

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 3>of the same beliefs and everything, and he and I

0:58:57.280 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 3>truly believe that, like we're soalmates. And you know, like

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 3>if we don't find each other again in this dimension

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 3>in that love sense, like we will find it again

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 3>in another one. And we're definitely always both going to

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 3>be the parents to this child, and we love him

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.720
<v Speaker 3>more than anything on this earth, Like me and the

0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 3>father both love the child more than anything on the planet.

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:20.800
<v Speaker 3>So I think that we will always be able to

0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:24.160
<v Speaker 3>come back to a point where we can reconcile the differences,

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:26.520
<v Speaker 3>at least a co parent. But I would go beyond

0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:28.439
<v Speaker 3>that to say that we might get to the point

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.400
<v Speaker 3>where we could be back together and as long as

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 3>it's a few years down the line and we both

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<v Speaker 3>get like the help that we need.

0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's good to hear that you have some optimism

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:41.760
<v Speaker 1>for the future of that relationship. I'm hoping that the

0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:46.160
<v Speaker 1>optimism for the future that relationship is you know, it

0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 1>comes from a grounded place where you can still operate

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and do your stuff without I guess holding out for

0:59:54.360 --> 1:00:00.800
<v Speaker 1>this guy. So has your family It sounds you're very

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<v Speaker 1>very much a family oriented person. Yes, yes, And has

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<v Speaker 1>your family been supportive of your decision to go and stripping?

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<v Speaker 3>Oddly enough, my dad has been the most supportive, like

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<v Speaker 3>my actual father and yeah, but other than that, my

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<v Speaker 3>whole family knows, which I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Found is not super common.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when I'm talking to other dancers, like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the dancers' families don't even know. So I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like the fact that like my family knows, and like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm able to be open with them about it is

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<v Speaker 3>them being supportive enough, you know, like they're not always

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<v Speaker 3>gonna like everything that I do. But my dad is

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<v Speaker 3>super supportive, and yeah, actually just gave me a big

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<v Speaker 3>chunk of money to upgrade my license so I can

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<v Speaker 3>dance at different clubs, which means more money. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like my family's been super super supportive. And

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like right now I'm standing in my brother's

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<v Speaker 3>room talking about this in front of him when he's eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, they're as supportive as they can be.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you always had a really good relationship with your dad?

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<v Speaker 3>With my dad, now it's been actually like a really

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<v Speaker 3>bad relationship. It was not until all of this happened

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<v Speaker 3>with my son that my relationship kind of with my

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<v Speaker 3>dad kind of got back together.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, how do you feel like the lowest point in

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<v Speaker 1>my life, how do you feel like your son sort

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<v Speaker 1>of changed the dynamic between you and your dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I was at the lowest point of my life

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<v Speaker 3>and even at the end of my pregnancy there I

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<v Speaker 3>was getting sick often, so like you know, throwing up

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<v Speaker 3>for like sixteen hours at a time and needing to

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<v Speaker 3>be carried down the stairs into like the emergency room

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<v Speaker 3>type thing, and there was a couple of times that

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<v Speaker 3>we had no choice but to call my dad to

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<v Speaker 3>come help like carry me, and so that was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of like broke the eyes. But then

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<v Speaker 3>after I had my son, like this is my first child,

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<v Speaker 3>and my dad doesn't have a good relationship with my

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<v Speaker 3>sister and her kids. So I feel like he was

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<v Speaker 3>like excited, kind of like a clean slate and wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to like you know, move past everything for that reason.

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<v Speaker 3>But when everything happened with my son, like when I

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<v Speaker 3>actually like you know, broke up with my baby daddy

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<v Speaker 3>and you know.

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<v Speaker 2>We went through this custody battle we started it.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad was one of the only people that was

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<v Speaker 3>like there for me, you know what I mean. Like

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<v Speaker 3>it was actually like a super bad situation where I

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<v Speaker 3>needed to be like taken out of another state and

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<v Speaker 3>brought back home, and my dad like ends up paying

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<v Speaker 3>like a four hundred dollars like cab fee to get

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<v Speaker 3>me down, you know, to the airport and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like make sure I got on the flight and everything

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<v Speaker 3>like that. So I feel like he kind of used

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<v Speaker 3>that catastrophe in my life to like show that he

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<v Speaker 3>can be there for me now. Even though he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, So so he he kind of wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>stepping up to the plate for you while you were

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, and he saw this as an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>show that he's changed and that he wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>an active part of your life and help you out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, especially because it is about my son, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's like the biggest part of my life. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I was made to be a mom,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like this's totally destroyed my life when it's happened.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, like him stepping in and saying, like,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll do what we have to do to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that we maintain your son's presence in your life. But

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<v Speaker 3>like it was like the most impactful.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing he could have done.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's awesome. It sounds like you're surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>by good people that and also it kind of sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it took you a while for everyone to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get on this solid footing that everyone's on.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, definitely, what would.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, I mean, before we go, and I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you sharing all this stuff with us, What would you

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<v Speaker 1>say or like, you know, at this very moment because

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you went through a lot of conflict

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<v Speaker 1>and the conflict is kind of settling and resolving. What

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<v Speaker 1>would you say are the biggest pain points in your

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<v Speaker 1>life right now that you that you hope to resolve.

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<v Speaker 3>That I don't have a fifty percent custody of my child,

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<v Speaker 3>like I want, you know, to raise him equally with

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<v Speaker 3>his father. That drives like every thought and everything in

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<v Speaker 3>my brain, you know. So that's why I was like

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<v Speaker 3>when I tried, when I thought about calling in, it's

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<v Speaker 3>funny because I tried not to talk about this, but

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<v Speaker 3>here we are talking about it anyway, not because I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to, but because you know, like you don't

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<v Speaker 3>always do like these serious discussions and everything. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like my son is like the forefront of every thought

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<v Speaker 3>in my brain. So that really still is a pain

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<v Speaker 3>point for me, is that, you know, I'm missing his infancy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to see him because I see him four

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<v Speaker 3>times a week and so that's a lot. But every

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<v Speaker 3>time I see him, it's something new, like he'll have

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<v Speaker 3>like a new tooth, or like now he can stand,

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<v Speaker 3>or he can clap, or he can say mama, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like I miss all of that up until

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<v Speaker 3>that point. Yeah, and so it's like the borderline of

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<v Speaker 3>being grateful that I still get to see it, but

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<v Speaker 3>also like the pain of knowing that I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>him all of the time and I don't get to

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<v Speaker 3>put him to bed at night and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It also does hurt that, you know, everything with the

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<v Speaker 3>father of my child, Like, of course, I wish it

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't happened that way, and like I wish that we

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<v Speaker 3>would have worked out. So that's still a paid point.

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<v Speaker 3>But obviously I do go to a real therapist, like

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<v Speaker 3>obviously multiple times a week. So yeah, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 3>those are the two things that really stick with me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I try to focus on the happy parts and

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<v Speaker 3>like do what I can, because you know, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>go back and change anything, but you can only go forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Melina, thank you for sharing all that stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember when at the beginning of this,

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<v Speaker 1>when I asked you how the custody battle is seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's resolving that you said that it is hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>going in a good direction for you, or you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to see your son at least fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I hope that works out for you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad to hear that, you know, I mean, this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound like it's the first time in your life where

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<v Speaker 1>you've experienced something tumultuous that then ended up you know,

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<v Speaker 1>working out for you. Glad to hear that you have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good people around you and that things

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<v Speaker 1>are settling in a good way. Sounds like you very

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<v Speaker 1>much enjoy the stripping. I feel like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>called in mainly to talk about that, but I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we got into sort of the this overall portrait

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<v Speaker 1>of your life right right, And yeah, good luck to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everyone's everyone's kind of trying to like attain

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<v Speaker 1>this harmony of every you know, their personal life and

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<v Speaker 1>their you know, what they're doing for money, and how

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<v Speaker 1>things are going with their family and their friends, and

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<v Speaker 1>you you you sound like you're getting there, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>good luck to you in the future. And is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything else you want to say to the people a

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<v Speaker 1>computer before you go?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just if there's anything that you want to do,

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<v Speaker 3>just go for it. Because when I first went into

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<v Speaker 3>audition for the Strip Club, I had never stepped from

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<v Speaker 3>in the strip club, and you know, it was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most nerve wracking things that I've ever done.

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<v Speaker 3>But that goes for anything, you know, like follow your

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<v Speaker 3>heart and definitely like listen to your gut feeling, but

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<v Speaker 3>don't be afraid to take that jump because sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 3>like the best thing that could have ever happened for you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not as scary as it seems.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for calling, Melina.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, have a good day. I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything goes on the line, making your phone calls every night.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything goes to teaching your cloud in the of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Body's not ready. An expert