1 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Welcome into a Thursday at very busy Thursday here at 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: the Browns training complex in Barria, Ohio. I'm Jason Gibbs, 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: He's Nick Shook, He's Andrew Gribble. We are getting you 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: ready for Browns and Jets. This is the best podcast available. 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Game preview Episode three of the season took the figure. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Episode one is a preview, Episode two was a recap, 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: and now we're back to the preview yet again. We 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: get ready for Monday night football, the Browns looking for 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: their first win of the season. Uh. It's been a week, guys, 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: and technically it's the Wednesday workout according to Freddie So. Uh, 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: we're all discombobulated and we're working our way through it. 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: But a lot of guys talking in the locker room today, Uh, 13 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: making some headlines, changing narratives. That's That's how I'll describe it. Yeah, 14 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: fair enough. Uh, and it was it was interesting. Uh. 15 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: There was a little something missing today obviously. Uh, and 16 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: we'll get to that here as we get a little 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: bit further into the podcast. Christian Kirksey sits down with 18 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Gribble and we'll give you our keys to the 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: game on Monday Night. But uh, Baker at the podium today. Oh, 20 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: deal at the podium. Uh. This is a group of 21 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: guys that know that they've got a lot of things 22 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: to clean up after Sunday's uh, Sunday's tough loss. Yeah, 23 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's the it's the best time possible to 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: have an extra practice. I mean they got a full 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: extra practice in this week on Tuesday. Uh, went into 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: the off day thinking about that, and then come back 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: today for really, what is your most intensive practice of 28 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: the week. And I think that this team needs all 29 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: the work you can get after a performance like they 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: had in the season opener. You lose by thirty in 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: the way you did in a really sloppy game that 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: you really can't really point too much that you did 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: great in that game. UH need all the work you 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: can get, especially going into an environment like this one 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: on Monday, where it's again it's not you're not gonna 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: be gearing yourself up thinking about how great this opponent 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: is in the New York Jets. But that just puts 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: more pressure and more focus on what you have to 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: do well. And that's going to test kind of the 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: where this team is at mentally. Yeah. I think the 41 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: only way that you can ensure success or as close 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: to a chance of success as you would like on 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: that stage, is just through preparation, and luckily you get 44 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: that extra day and hopefully that you know they're maximizing 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: that it seems as though they are. And uh, and 46 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: we'll be able to use that to clean up some 47 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: of the issues and mistakes that they made, you know, 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: in week one, and hope that it doesn't happen again. 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: You know, you're not gonna win football games committing eighteen penalties. 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm ready and I'm sure they're very ready 51 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: or already past it to get past saying the number 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: eighteen in regards to penalties. Hopefully it doesn't happen again. Well, 53 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: and I would think, you know, there are going to 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: be penalties that are committed, whether it's penalties we actually 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: commit or ones that the referees think we committed that 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: we really didn't commit. It's gonna happen one way or 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: the other. Uh. You know, probably probably between five and ten. 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: And you want to be a lot closer to five 59 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: than you do. Yeah, I mean, you don't want to 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: be near and double digits. And the the amount of 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: the Browns had in the first half on Sunday was 62 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: a bad game, and then the second half happened. I mean, yeah, 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the issue. I mean, you had 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: enough penalties in the first half to say we had 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: a sloppy game, and you need to be around two 66 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: or three per half and hopefully avoiding and you'll take 67 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: the holds, the off sides, the the you know, the 68 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: neutral zone and fractions things like that. It's the fifteen 69 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: yard ors, the unsportsmanlikes that are completely in your control, uh, 70 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: and getting avoiding those those are the ones. You just 71 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: take out those from Sunday's game and it's a pretty 72 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: sloppy game, but it's not a historically sloppy game. Yeah, 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: going back and watching that game, I thought a lot 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: of those fifteen yards as in sportsmanlikes, were the product 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: of guys probably just getting caught too much in the 76 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: emotion and in the moment of the game. And you know, 77 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: for a much anticipated season and being at home and 78 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: the energy that was in that building that day, that's understandable. 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: But that can't happen again because this is going to 80 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: be just as an energetic statement on the difference will 81 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: be they won't have the home crowd support behind them. 82 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: They'll be the enemy walking into enemy turf and trying 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: to come out with a victory. So maybe they'll use 84 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: that to their advantage. But really they got to keep 85 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 1: a levelhead and not get caught up in the moment, 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: and there will be opportunities. As one Greg Williams will 87 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: be welcoming them in. Yes, not with open arms, Let's 88 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: just put it that way. Uh, if anything specific that 89 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: you took away from this week's availability so far, is 90 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: there anything that stood out to you? Anything in the 91 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: locker room vibe wise? I mean, all things considered, they 92 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: were pretty upbeat after today's practice. I think that there's 93 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: a general sentiment that they are very sick of talking 94 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: about last week's game. You hear that from Freddy as well. 95 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: Uh today, Like when he gets any questions at reference 96 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: last week's game, he brings up the fact he really 97 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about this game anymore. They've they've 98 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: kind of adopted that they watched that theme when they've 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: flushed it, and they've they've kind of embraced that mentality, 100 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: and I think that it was interesting today. It's unavoidable 101 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: for this team to not know that Sam Donald isn't 102 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: playing in this game on on on Monday, and they 103 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: found out that news just like we all did right 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: before their practice today, so they know that going in. 105 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I almost think it's better that you get it out 106 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: of the way earlier in the week because if it 107 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: happened later, then you all, maybe some of these younger 108 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: guys get that false boost of confidence from that. You've 109 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: got a few days now to flush out that mentality, 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: being like, you know, this guy could still Trevor, assuming 111 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: it's still beat you like, So I think it's good 112 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: to get that that out of the way, get the 113 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: the initial reaction that all the fans have that are like, 114 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: oh wow, this is a game the Brown should definitely win. 115 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: So I think it's good to get out of the way. 116 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: And I think that they know already that it's been 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: drilled into their heads for the last few hours from 118 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: coaching and everything that the injury to Donald doesn't matter 119 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: at all. You know, I might be in the minority 120 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: on this, but I don't have as high of an 121 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: opinion of Sam Donald as I think the average person does. Um. 122 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: I think he's got the potential to be a very 123 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: good quarterback, but I don't think he's there yet. And 124 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the drop off from Sam Donald to 125 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon is as substantial as one might make it 126 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: out to be, especially if you're talking to people who 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: in the New York media, because you know, you get 128 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: that kind of push where they want that guy to 129 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: be the next guy. I don't really know if he's 130 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: that guy yet, So I think that it's an it's 131 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: an advantage that this is coming out today because they 132 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: get another couple of days to prepare to play against 133 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: the guy like Trevor Simeon. I'm not saying he's better, 134 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 1: but I just don't think the gap between the two 135 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: is as substantial as people are making out to be. 136 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: And and I think you can avoid, um, maybe coasting 137 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: or some pitfalls, or or going into the game and going, oh, well, 138 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: we have to play his backup. There are only thirty 139 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: two starters and there are thirty two backups that those 140 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: are the sixty four best quarterbacks on the planet right now. 141 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: They're still really good. Is the injury worth noting? Is 142 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: the c. J. Mosley injury more important maybe than the 143 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Sam Donald injury? I think I think it is by far, 144 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: because you look at what happened last week with the 145 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: Bills in the Jets game. They were shutting them out 146 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: and the defense at one point at all their points 147 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: with a touchdown and a safety. C J. Mosley is 148 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: a really good player, as Baker Mayfield learned at the 149 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: end of last year's season finale, UH perennial Pro bowler 150 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: that the Ravens probably would have loved to kept, but 151 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: they couldn't afford. The Jets paid him a ton of money, 152 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: and Greg Williams likes having we We saw how much 153 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: he loved Joe Schobert. He loves having a guy in 154 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: the middle of his defense that can do a lot 155 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: of different things. And c J. Mosley is really good 156 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: at covering and and really good in coverage, so uh 157 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: he is. Uh. It completely changed the game when he 158 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: came out. Buffalo all of a sudden turned into a 159 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: team that could score uh and they and they won 160 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: the game because of it. So I think that while 161 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: losing the quarterback is such a huge loss for a team, 162 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: Adam Gaze has won a lot of games with some 163 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: bad quarterbacks, so I I don't I think he can 164 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: get Simeon prepared for this game. But I don't know 165 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: if there is a way to replace Siddy Mosley in 166 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: the defense, especially they've lost Avery Williamson for the season, 167 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: They've had a number of other different injuries they could 168 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: be without Quinn and Williams. They uh, they've got a 169 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: lot of guys banged up. And we saw we saw 170 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: this team last year those games that Joe Schobert was out, 171 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: there was a big difference on that defense. And I 172 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: think that Mosley is a really good player. Yeah, linebacker 173 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: dependent scheme that uh, you know, with if Mosley were 174 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: to be out there also without Avery Williamson, who was 175 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: a key player in their defense last year, and so 176 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: they're they're thin at the position. If if Mosley is out, 177 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: and I think, like Grivelson, it's it's a it's a 178 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: massively different defense that you're looking at them because their 179 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: defensive front, you know, three down linemen and a linebacker. 180 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: Um and if you're already thin a linebacker, you know 181 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: what you got up front. But if QUINNI Williams has 182 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: also hurt your thinner there, really the strength of the 183 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: defense then exists at the safety position. So that's the 184 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: last line of defense they gonna have to bring him up. 185 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: It could create opportunities for big plays. It could also 186 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: open up things underneath because those players just starting at 187 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: the same level. So there is some potential for the 188 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Browns to really get this offense going, which they couldn't 189 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: do in Week one. Regardless of whether Mosley is playing 190 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: or not. I do not think this defense as a 191 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: whole is as good as Tennessee's defense was last year. 192 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee had three very good, range, athletic linebackers who made things, 193 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: who made, you know, created headaches for Baker Mayfield last week, 194 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: and I don't think that New York has that same personnel, 195 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: and especially does not if Mosley can't play on the 196 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: Brown side of things. How concerning is it that right 197 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: now we know of two healthy tackles on the roster 198 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: and Lamb didn't practice. It doesn't sound promising. We don't 199 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: have anything official, but right now you've got two tackles 200 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: on your roster, and after what happened last week on 201 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: the offensive line, you may be a little surprised that 202 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: we haven't gone out and made a move for a tackle. 203 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm surprised, but it might also be a reflection on 204 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: the tackle market there. There's just aren't these guys just 205 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: don't exist and be unemployed. At this time of year, 206 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: it's tough. It's really hard to even find a premiere 207 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: or near premier tackle in the NFL right now, let 208 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: alone somebody that you think you could just sign and 209 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: PLoP in there in case of emergency. I mean, that's 210 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: why you spend the money to go get a backup guy, 211 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: like a kinda lamb. It's unfortunately, it's hurt. I also 212 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: think that Justin mccraig could be called into duty in 213 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: case of emergency. Did it last week, and maybe we'll 214 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: see a different activated group of offensive linemen this week 215 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: than we did last all right, So to follow up 216 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: playing for camping in the past, it has to be 217 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: a big help for him if he's going to make 218 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: that transition attack. That had to be a major factor 219 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: in why he was activated for Week one as opposed 220 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: to some of the other players. I mean he was. 221 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: He was active over Austin Corbett, and I believe why 222 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: whyatt tell her as well? So that tells you everything 223 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: you need to know right there. He's more familiar with 224 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: the system, he can step in and do it quicker, 225 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: and probably there's an element of trust there that Hey, 226 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: I know what this guy can do. When they ended 227 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: up shifting him over to the right tackle, he wasn't great, 228 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: but he did have a couple of nice blocks that 229 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: set up some things. Obviously, the Browns offense shot themselves 230 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: in the foot so much with penalties that it really 231 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: didn't matter or shine through, but there were moments there 232 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: where he showed he could be capable, um, you know, 233 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: replacement level or you know, enough to plug the hole 234 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: for now, and right now, as it stands, we don't 235 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: even have to talk about that, So I don't think 236 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: it's as big of a concern. It can become one, 237 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: But like Gribble said, I think it's more indicative of 238 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: the tackle market in the lack of available options, and 239 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: you have some guys out there that know the system 240 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: that you're clearly not interested in. Brad Seaton's on the 241 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay UH practice squad, UH, finny A Ganafo and 242 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: uh and Born Call are nowhere right now. They're not 243 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: on a rosters right now. Yeah, So I mean those 244 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: are those are guys that are available but clearly not 245 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: interested at the moment to fill the spots. So I 246 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: guess you just roll with McRae and hope for no 247 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: injuries or rejections. All right, hopefully no rejections, no kicking anybody. 248 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: I think Greg Robinson has learned his lesson. I don't 249 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: think there'll be any more of that. Are there any 250 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: other injuries right now on this team that concern you. 251 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't know about concern but I think it's clear 252 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: that the Darius Taylor is gonna miss some time. But 253 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: that I was asked last I was asking my mailbag 254 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: yesterday about why Gerard Avery was inactive for this game, 255 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: and you look at the snaps the way they were distributed. 256 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: There just wasn't a place for him. And I think 257 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: that you played Kirks and Schobert every snap. You played 258 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: at Darius Taylor three snaps and that was it for 259 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: the linebackers. No other linebackers saw the field on defense, 260 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: and your backup pass rushers Chris Smith and Chad Thomas 261 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: had less than ten snaps apiece. So this is a 262 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: defense that's gonna go with its elite guys and if 263 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: you're not able to help out on a variety of 264 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: special teams, which Avery has in the past. But I 265 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: think they found a guy in Leek Jefferson that can 266 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: fill those roles at a pretty high level. Uh, that's 267 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: what it's gonna make you inactive. Now, would Jernard Avery 268 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: be in active this week, I'd be very surprised because 269 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: you've got some injured guys, So I think that you're 270 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: gonna have a Avery available for you. It's just a 271 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: matter of how you use them. But Taylor is the 272 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: one guy that's hurt that I imagine won't be available 273 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: don Chell Hilliard. It makes you wonder if you're gonna 274 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: have to bring up a running back by by game 275 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: time on Monday. Elijah McGuire, former Jet, he's on the 276 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: practice squad, could be an option. Uh. And then the 277 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: one that I'll keep an eye on is Chard Higgins 278 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: just because I think they missed him in the second 279 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: half of of of Sunday's game. I think that he's 280 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: a really good player. Ratley is fine, he missed a 281 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: lot of the preseason. Like there's the chemistry is just 282 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: not as on that level. Richards Higgins is a really 283 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: good receive her because he has had he does. He's 284 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: not gifted with the set same set of skills that 285 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: Jervis Lanard Nodell have, but he has gotten uh better 286 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: because of his chemistry, Baker and I think that he 287 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: was definitely missed. He was a key presence on that 288 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: opening drive. So if you can have him back, that 289 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: will be huge for the offense. Yeah. I agree with 290 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: all these points, I mean top to bottom. Uh, the 291 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: one guy that you know, unfortunately we're not sure we'll 292 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: be there or not. And clearly as has had a 293 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: pretty devastating week, it would be Chris Smith and the 294 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: loss of his girlfriend after a after a vehicle wreck 295 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: late night Tuesday night into Wednesday morning. Uh, they have 296 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: a newborn, she's just a few weeks old. And uh, 297 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: just it was a horrible day in this building yesterday 298 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: there and there's no other way really to put it. 299 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: You just felt sick to your stomach all day. Um, 300 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: the team has really rallied, and Freddie has talked about that. 301 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: A lot of the guys in the locker room had 302 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: something to say about that. And that's what I meant 303 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: when we started the podcast there there was a little 304 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: something missing in the locker room today. Guys have turned 305 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: the page to New York. But and you know, there's 306 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: some laughing and there's some joking around, but there was 307 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: something missing today and I think a lot of it 308 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: has to do with Chris Smith and the personality and 309 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: what he brings to this football team. And you know, 310 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: our thoughts and prayers are with him, and you know, 311 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: god speed in terms of being able to get back. 312 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: But he's got to come back when he's ready to 313 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: come back. And there's a lot of other things that 314 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: are way more important than football right now that are 315 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: going on in his world. Yeah, Freddie said it best 316 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: that you know, we're all here to uh we cover football. 317 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: You know, they play football, they coach football. That's the 318 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: main part of their lives. But football is not number one. 319 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: You know, life hits you sometimes. He gives you some 320 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: perspective and makes me realize that football is not they 321 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: and all be all and moments like this will make 322 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: you realize that. Yeah, and I got into it with 323 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: Kirky a little bit. But I mean, we fans all 324 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: know who Chris Smith does. I think by this point 325 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: the I heard especially he's a he's been a key 326 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: part of this defense last two years. But you know, 327 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: we all see it. We travel with the team, we 328 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: see him in the locker room every day. Like this 329 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: is the definition of the most infectious personality in this 330 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: entire locker room. I mean, I've always lobbied that he 331 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: would maybe be a dark horse candidate for a captain 332 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: on this team because he's so vocal. He's just like 333 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: kind of always has the pulse the locker room, friends 334 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: with everyone. Uh, and clearly you hear from Baker. I 335 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: think Baker knows Chris really well. And he's on defense 336 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: and the defensive line is really tight. I think he's 337 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: really close to Devil or Lawrence, Larry Ogan, Joe by 338 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk's. I mean, this guy, since he's arrived here 339 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: last year, has really just made his presence felt a 340 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: guy that truly loves being around this team and loves 341 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: playing the game. And I can't wait to see him 342 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: back in here when he's when he's ready to go. 343 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: But certainly no rush. I mean, this is a serious 344 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: thing to get to. Our thoughts are with his girlfriend's 345 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: family and him his family of course as well, and 346 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, we just wish the best for him and 347 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: take take what you need time wise to get back 348 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: on the field. You talked about it with Christian Kirksey 349 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: and the game coming up on Sunday, a number of 350 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: other things, Uh, Your big takeaway from talking to Kirk 351 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: go he seems locked in. I think that they he's 352 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: been Kirk has been around for a lot of bad bosses, 353 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: but he hasn't been around on a team that he 354 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: I think believes though, that this this team is capable 355 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: of being so much better than that. I think that's 356 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: what made for some of these guys that have been 357 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: around a while and think that's what made this loss 358 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: hurt a little bit more, is that they've played better 359 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: games with way less talent. So I think they know 360 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: the talents there. It's just a matter of actually showing 361 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: up this time. All right. With that, have a listen 362 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Gribble with Christian Kirksey. All Right, Christian, obviously you 363 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: guys had some some tough news over the last twenty 364 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: four hours. I know you're you're pretty close with Chris Smith. 365 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: How is the team coping with us and and helping 366 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: Chris through this really tough time right now? You know, 367 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: just being there as much as we can be in 368 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: supportive of them, Um, you know, acting if you need 369 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: anything him or family, Uh, you know his family first, 370 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, uh with a football team, but you know, 371 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: real life happens outside of football. So you gotta make 372 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: sure you're there for your brothers, all your teammates and um, 373 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: you know, just be with him in his time and 374 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: need when it's hard. Uh you know with just football alone, 375 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: but you know, just family issues, that's that's always tough. 376 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: So you gotta ut, I stick with him and be 377 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: alongside with him. A lot of Bronze fans, no Chris Smith, 378 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: they don't get to see what he's like in the 379 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: locker room here, and we see him all the time. 380 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: He's like the happiest guy on on earth. I mean, 381 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: what is he What does he meant to this group 382 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: since he came to this team? Forget, he's just you know, 383 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: keep everything boundless man. Uh, no matter how hard the 384 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: situation is with him, you know he's always having a 385 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: smile on his face and you know, always keeping guys 386 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: energized and you know, just being a man a guy 387 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: as you can look too. So you know, make everything 388 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: feel that ease right here. Uh. You know, he has 389 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: a great energy and people are to be around at 390 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: How do you think the team has come back to 391 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: practice today and and just getting getting ready for another 392 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: big game here? I think we respind it well, Um, 393 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, when we know our brothers going through something, 394 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, we rumb up the intensity, planning for up 395 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: the bigger than us. Uh. You know we we were 396 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: playing for him, playing for you know, his situation, planning 397 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: for his family, and you know, just to add a 398 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: piece of motivation, uh for us. So I thought we 399 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: re find it well that came out in the field 400 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: and did we have to do? How much does an 401 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: extra practice in a week like this matter for you guys? 402 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: You know with the preparation, you know, anytime you can 403 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: get another jump, another read on an opponent, he helps. 404 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: You know, you want to take uh advantage of the 405 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: time an opportunity in um, get as much studying in 406 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: as you can. Did it help get the kind of 407 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: the sour case from last week out in a hurry? 408 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: Maybe more because you guys start your preparations a little earlier. 409 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: I think you know, once we ended that game, you 410 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: know watch film, um the last games out of our 411 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: heads and we were moving forward to to the Jets, 412 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: and uh we did that in the fast manner for 413 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: the defense though, was it was it a solid effort 414 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: for through those first three quarters for you guys doing 415 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: what you guys wanted to do in that game. You 416 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: know we had we had a couple of miss miss 417 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: uh plays. Um. You know they had you know, big 418 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: players on us that you know as a determined the 419 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: factor of the game. So, um, you know we didn't 420 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: we didn't meet our goals that we wanted and U 421 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: therefore we didn't get to win. Is there a confidence 422 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: going in that? No, And you guys aren't gonna go 423 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: out there and commit eight team penalties again and you 424 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: were still in a game like that. We're confident. We're 425 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: confident with everything that we do. Um, when you play aggressive, 426 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: things happen and you just gotta move forward. How do 427 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: you like this match up with the Jets? This is 428 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: the team you guys are familiar with last year. A 429 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: lot of the similar pieces out there. What what what? 430 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: What do you see in that matchup? It's gonna be 431 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good game. But I think the 432 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: most physical uh sound uh intelligence saying wins. Freddie always 433 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: harps that they always say, you know, you can't just 434 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: go out there and just you know, you do whatever 435 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: you want to do. You gotta do you know, your 436 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: job on the defense or offense and special team and 437 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, do it to the best ability and be 438 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: smart out there, and we will take care of thing. 439 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: This needs to be tooking. Curl you guys that will 440 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: go up and talk to to Greg before the game 441 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: and kind of just see how he's doing before I 442 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: kind of match up like this. I mean for me, 443 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, I've been in my own zone before the game. Uh. Actually, 444 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: you know, do my my my daily routine that I 445 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: go through to get prepared. Uh so I won't see 446 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: grig or two after the game. Um, that's that's pretty 447 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: much how you know, I go about my my preparation. 448 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: I know you were you were hurt last year during 449 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: the second half season, But what was it like just 450 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: to view what what his impact was as a coach 451 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: on this team and that innerm role and kind of 452 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: how that sends the momentum going into this season. I mean, 453 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, it was really just a matter of you know, 454 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: guys making up in their mind. You know it's time 455 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: to you know, get things going. Uh. He he would 456 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: even say that, you know, it was just an attitude 457 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: by the team. Um. I don't think it was no 458 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: special formula or you know, no special prep talking anything 459 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: like that. I think it was just you know, the organism, sation, 460 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: the players and coaches in in one just you know, 461 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: turning the round in their mind. And uh, you know 462 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: Greg is a good coach, um, you know, and I 463 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: aspect him to coach their defense well and um, you know, 464 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: getting ready for for for Monday and then we'll be 465 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: ready for Monday as well. What was the reaction we 466 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: guys heard about Sam Donald and I know Freddie talked 467 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: about how that doesn't change your preparation. Did you not 468 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: the same change in preparation to that? And it didn't 469 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: change our preparation? Um? You know, uh when we first 470 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: heard about it, you know, whatever health issue he's he's 471 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: going through. Um, obviously, you know, prayers to him, but 472 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: we gotta you know, play the next man up for us. 473 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: You know, they're just they're just you know Jersey numbers, um, 474 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, whoever's playing quarterback, whoever playing you know, tackle, regardless. 475 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: You know, we had the same preparation throughout the week. Um, 476 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: and you know, prepared like it was the number one starter. 477 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: What do you do, as I know you've been the 478 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: league for a while with these primetime games, how do 479 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: you kill that time before a game? It seems like 480 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: a long wait that morning up and everything like that, 481 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: you know, emotions flaring, you know, uh, anxiety. Uh, you know, 482 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: you gotta find a happy place. Man. You gotta find 483 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: somewhere that you're gonna be saying that. Find somewhere you're 484 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: gonna you know, have a balance. And for me, you know, 485 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: I listened to a lot of music man. Uh you 486 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: know it just cons my soul, cons my spirit. Um. 487 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: And then when it's time to you know, get you 488 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: know amped up. You know I'll be there. Do you 489 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: like these prime time games? You got you guys got 490 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: three out of the next four. Yeah, yeah, you gotta 491 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: you gotta love them. Man, prime time you're on the 492 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: game playing Monday night. Uh, you know it's gonna be 493 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good time. And for for for us, 494 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, big time players and a big time players 495 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: and a big time game. So you live for moments 496 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: like that. Um. But you prepare for it, you know, 497 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: the same way you'll do any other game. Um, you know, 498 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: and you know, just be ready for it. Batonio mentioned 499 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: how it's a unique spot because like this is the 500 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: one game that NFL players get to watch. I mean, 501 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: is that something you. You always make a point to Yeah. 502 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, you you're on the game plan. 503 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: You know, National televised. You know everybody is it knows 504 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: about Monday Night football. You grow up, you know, watching 505 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: Monday Night since she was a kid man come home 506 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: from school, Uh, knowing that football was playing on the Monday. Uh, 507 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: you know everybody's tuned in, and um, you know it's 508 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna be in New York, you know, a big city. 509 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good environment. Um, and you know, 510 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be you know, a game where 511 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, emotions is flaring and you just gotta embrace 512 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: it and uh enjoy the moment. Is that something though, 513 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: with the whole composure aspect, that that's something that has 514 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: to be focused on after last week, Um, whether it's 515 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: Monday night, Sunday night, Thursday night. You know, penalties is unacceptable. 516 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: So you always gotta keep composure to do everything. And um, 517 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: I think that you know, we learned from it and 518 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: we just gotta move forward. I appreciate Kirkkoh's time as 519 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: we get ready for game day, Monday night, Monday Night 520 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: football Browns and Jets. Going back, we played the Ravens 521 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: on Monday Night. Let's not talk about that game speaking 522 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: of bad game. That was a game. That was a 523 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: game we've played on Monday Night in a couple of 524 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: preseason games. But this one a little out of emphasis, 525 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, Sheldon richardson coming back to New York. I know, no, 526 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: it was a giant, but coming back to New York, 527 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: same stadium, same stadium, a lot of storylines, and you 528 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: hate to throw out the whole must win, but let's 529 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: be honest. This team needs a win, and they need 530 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: one quickly, and it's it's a pretty good opportunity on 531 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: paper right now to go get this one on Monday Night. Yeah, 532 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: and you know it is. And and with some of 533 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: the news that we've gotten, it sure seems like maybe 534 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: this one's you know, set up to go the Browns way. 535 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: But at the same time, we can't catch ourselves thinking 536 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: that it's gonna be easy. You know, any given Sunday 537 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: and all that jazz. We all know how that goes. 538 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: But it does seem like, you know, with some of 539 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: the potential players who may be out because leab On Bell, 540 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, also had an m r I and his 541 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: shoulder and and we haven't even gotten to that, yeah, exactly, 542 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: And and so he missed this the practice today, which 543 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: might be more of a rest and heal than anything, 544 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: but still something the monitor obviously seeing Donald's out, So CJ. 545 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: Mosley is questionable at this point. We don't know what 546 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: his stats is gonna be for the game. Um, it 547 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: just seems like, man, these are the breaks you need. 548 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: But then again, this team shouldn't need these breaks. That's 549 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: I think that's the point I should stress here is 550 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: that this team should not need these breaks and need 551 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: these favors or whatever you might wanna call to go 552 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: their way to be able to win a game, because 553 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: there's enough talent on this team. I mean, there's That 554 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: was one of the most frustrating things about Week one 555 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: was you know that there's enough talent on this team 556 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: to get things going, and then they really didn't for 557 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: the majority of the game. Again, you hope that they 558 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: learned from it and they clean it up and that 559 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: they utilize that talent on their team to come out 560 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: and get a fast start and maybe force an early 561 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: turnovers to take the crowd out of it a little bit. 562 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: That's usually the formula for any road game. Uh, play 563 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more conservatively, I think, and play within 564 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: your means and hopefully come away with a win. You know, 565 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to thus fifteen Monday Night because 566 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: there's some parallels to that game. You brought in a 567 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: bad ball more Ravens team came into the game three 568 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: and seven. Granted you were two and eight. So this 569 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: was ESPNS marketing ability for that game had it was 570 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: really testing Ruden in that booth next door to us 571 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: and him coming in going what are we doing here? 572 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean you look at you look at the box 573 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: score and it's literally a who's who of who's that? 574 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: I mean, there there's names on here that I've not 575 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: heard for years. They've not done much. But to draw 576 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: a parallel, you brought in a quarterback in Matt Shob, 577 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: Matt Chob, who's at Trevor Simeons status at this time, 578 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: and he beat you. Granted he didn't do that great. 579 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: He had a couple interceptions, going a pick six, Carlos 580 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: Dansby were turning that for a touchdown. But the Ravens 581 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: had two special teams touchdowns in that game, including the 582 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: final one and a and a couple of field goals 583 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: and that's all they need to beat you. So in 584 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: some you have to take. You can't just say they 585 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: have the worst quarterback, We're going to beat them. Because 586 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: weird stuff can happen in these games. Yeah, I mean weird, 587 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: weird stuff can happen. And all of a sudden, you 588 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: look down and a guy named Camary Agin's catching a 589 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: touchdown passing. I mean, so, I mean, like this is 590 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: Kalen clay Is returning a punt for a touchdown, taking 591 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: you You there may be some guys in this game 592 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: who are never relevant again, but they can beat you 593 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: on this night. So you just there's I understand that 594 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: the gamblers have loaded up on the Browns now the 595 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: line is gone much higher. But this is this is 596 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: all about the Browns, not beating the Browns. You just 597 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: have to be You have to be better, be the 598 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: better team, and don't let any of this nonsense make 599 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: you think that you can just go in there and 600 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: get a victory. The Browns will win Monday night if 601 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: they do blank I mean play to their potential. That's 602 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, because they didn't last week. You just have 603 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: to be what we think you're what you're supposed to be. 604 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: With this amount of out uh. And a team that 605 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: plays with a normal amount of penalties and a normal 606 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: and only a normal amount of mistakes in a game 607 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: that should be good enough to win this game. You're 608 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: You're the significantly more talented team, and you should be 609 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: jazzed up to go play. I'm in a night football 610 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: in the stadium that I think a lot of people 611 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: will be excited to play. I don't think that we've 612 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: been to MetLife before. Not the biggest home field advantage, Uh, 613 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: it's just you. You should be able to go in there. 614 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: The atmosphere shouldn't be bothering you, and you should go 615 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: get a win. I thought I thought this team played 616 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: some of its best games on the road last year. 617 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: Maybe this is a road roster that likes play on 618 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: the road. So just play up to your potential. You 619 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: win the game. I think that they'll benefit from being 620 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: the enemy, I really do. But I think the Browns 621 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: will win if they rush for over a hundred and 622 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: twenty five yards and do it in twenty carries or so, 623 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: because that was one thing they just didn't do enough 624 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: of in Week one was established a run. The penalties 625 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: didn't help with that because it put them behind the 626 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: stacks and forced them to throw. But you need to 627 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: run the ball more than they do. You need to 628 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: balance your offense a little bit more and stop taking 629 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: so many shots down field. And I think they'll do 630 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: that this week. I think that starts with handing the 631 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: ball to Nick Chop So, especially again if C. J. 632 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: Mosley is out, that really improves your chances of ripping 633 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: up some big games up the middle. Alright, guys, final 634 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: thoughts here, uh thoughts on the kicking game. We have 635 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: a rookie kicker and we have a rookie punter. Didn't 636 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: make a lot of news last week because of the 637 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: fact that we got beat as badly as we did, 638 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: but we did miss an extra point. Well, that being said, 639 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: our rookie punter, Jamie Gillen, had himself a pretty good day, 640 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: had had a good day. But if we want to 641 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: bring any heat on any kickers, the Jets are also 642 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: trying out a different kicker this week, number four on 643 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: the season. So it kicking pressure is abound everywhere. I 644 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's on Austin Cybert who did bounce 645 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: back and made a second p t, and and it's 646 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: on everybody else involved. But it's not just on Austin, 647 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: which is good. But yeah, Jamie had a great game. 648 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: I think he's good. First punt was not his best, 649 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: but he got very very fortunate role in that one. 650 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: But he made it so they didn't return a single 651 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: one of his punts. And if you do that, you've 652 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: had a good day. I mean, that's the you don't 653 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: even need your coverage units to go to work. And 654 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: I think he did a very good job. And I 655 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: don't think that the atmosphere is gonna get to him 656 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: on this night, No, not at all. All Right, that's 657 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: gonna wrap things up. We will talk to you on 658 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: Tuesday after a long flight home and a long day 659 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: coming on Tuesday, hopefully celebrating the Brown's first win of 660 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: the season. Make sure that you subscribe to this podcast, 661 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 1: the best podcast available. Give us a nice rating if 662 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: you like. If you don't like us, still give us 663 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: a rating. Whatever you took the time, we'll appreciate it. 664 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: For Andrew Gribble, for Nick Shook, I'm Jason Gibbs. This 665 00:30:45,120 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: has been the best podcast available. The p