1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: I have to have got a speeding bullet, more powerful 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna locomotive. Heyboll pave tall buildings at a single bound 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: the sky. It's a bird, ron Andanian. So they found 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: the salvage yard called what it is a junkyard engine. 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: They put a junk yard engine in it, and that 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: got rid of the catalytic converter code problem. That got 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: rid of the overheat issue. The car Doctor, they just 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: dropped it off on rich front more and said it's 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: over thirty days. It's now your car. It's your problem, 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: which you know, I understand where this business has. It 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: has the issues that it has. Welcome to the radio 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor, since this 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five five six, and 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: now he is running. Hey, it's time to start your 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: engines and uh, let's get going here run and eating 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: the car Doctor at five zero nine nine zero zero, 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: Here to take your calls, ready and well rested after 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: my sort of week off ster of to grace us 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: with your president. Well, you know, Tom, some of us 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: just more popular than others. Um and I listen, I 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: couldn't say no. When the els showed up, I just uh, 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: I just I just had to do my thing and 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: keep going. It was just, uh, you know, Tony, and 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: I noticed, you know, I mean, at least this time 29 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: you left us something we could do well. And and 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: then do you know about the phone calls we got 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: about the tie up on the uh uh the Northern 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: Lights Parkway, Well that was that was partly me and yeah, 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: we know it was you and the derailing of the 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: Polar Express when you uncloaked right in front of the 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: train and he didn't know what to do. Well because 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: we were coming you know, we were coming down. We 37 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: were and it was and we we were doing better 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: than mock eight. And you know, I said, Santa, oh, 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: look there's a it looks like there was an Orilly 40 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: oort of parts just down the Lois and they had 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 1: a clean mechanics restroom area there, and I said, Santa, 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's a little cold up. And boy, I'll 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: tell you what that thing really stops on a dime. 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: It's amazing how well Santa slay The breaks and that 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: thing are just like pal speaking of u uh you 46 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: know disappearing acts. Yes, where's Tony? Well, you see, Tony 47 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: called me this morning and to tell me about the 48 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: great place he has for the ball drop in Times Square. 49 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: Are we supposed to go meet him? Well, no, it's 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. It's not tonight. He made a mistake. So 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: so Tony's stuck in Times Square. He's standing there. He 52 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: decided to, you know, he was gonna get he was 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: gonna get dressed up. So he's, you know, dressed up 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: in a diaper, standing in the middle of Times Square 55 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: in this cold thinking it's tonight. What is he gonna 56 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna be the first baby time like he wants 57 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: to be, and he's right there in front of the billy. 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, dude, you got your days wrong. A 59 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: six ft two baby time. I don't know if that's 60 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: something I want to say. Diaper is something. I don't 61 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: want to see that in a diaper either. But you know, listen, 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna be standing in diapers. 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: On a serious note, I can't understand going to Times Square. 64 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: I just I don't get I know the amount of people, 65 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: and what do you do they Unless you have friends 66 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 1: and stuff with you, you you can't hold your place in line. 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: Right the ball comes down and you go, okay, let's 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: go home. I don't know if you're not a popsicle lord. 69 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: I thank everybody for going to Times Square. God bless them. 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: They give us something to watch on New Year's Eve. 71 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: So it's uh they make they make it entertaining. Um 72 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: A lot to talk about this week, A lot going on. 73 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: We got a lot of catching up. I see the 74 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: phones already lit up. We already got the backup real quick. 75 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: I want to do Welcome though w B A. E. 76 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Portland's mainly are now part of the car doctor family. 77 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Welcome guys, and and we have a second affiliate. Where 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: are they? Yes, they're there? Where? Where? Yes? Where? That's 79 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: the station? W A are you where? If you tell 80 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: me we're going to get a station, who, then we're 81 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: gonna have a whole in Iowa. We already have stations 82 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: in Iowa. Do we have a station in Iowa? Yes? Where? No, 83 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: that's in Massachusetts. That's our new affiliate. If we get 84 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: a station ever, mind because this could this could really 85 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: go on. I knew, I knew we should have bought 86 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: you a map for Christmas. Where it's just west of 87 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Springfield and just east of Wooster. It's about midway between 88 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: the where that's right? W A R A. Yes. Can 89 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: I go to the phones now just like you? Yeah, 90 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: well that's right. I am a real oldie. By the way, 91 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: you get everything you wanted for Christmas? Yes, I didn't 92 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: have to see you last week. Well, thank you and 93 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: thank you, and you know what, and I was very 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: nice to you. I gave you everything you wanted for Christmas, 95 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: and I gave you a good general manager for the Giants. 96 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: And it should be a good season next year. I hope, 97 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: you hope it'll be much worse than this year. It's 98 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: always got to be a step up. So have we 99 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: talked about everything and anything not carve related? Now? Can 100 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: we move on to what people tune into this radio 101 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: show for. It's for cars. I thought I thought it 102 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: was for our humor. Nuts, got listen. Somebody wants told 103 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: me a long time ago, never stray from your pure intent, 104 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: and I try to do that every week. Um So, 105 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: without any further ado, let's kick the garage doors open 106 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: and go talk to Troy and Maine Dodge Ram Troy, 107 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: thanks for lotting, thanks for putting up with the drivel 108 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: and Uh, here at your service or Ron Needing the 109 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: car doctor. How can I help Troy Troy randomly shutting off. 110 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: It seems like after warm up in cold temperatures today 111 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: like fifteen degrees are less. It's Uh, had been running 112 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: a P zero three served two code. Uh second still 113 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: in the misfire and put that that issue has been 114 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: straightened out. And this thought that the shutdown issue was 115 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: shut was figured out. Uh, but it's back to the 116 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: deal and now for the third time in the last 117 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: couple of weeks trying to figure it out. When so 118 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: it had a misfire issue, and the misfire issue was repaired, 119 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: and then this problem came about right when they fixed 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: the misfire issue and had a couple of the problems 121 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: water punk going bad, a couple of broken manifold bolts 122 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: that they fixed, and uh they sent me the truck back. Um. 123 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: I finally got a cold morning, I went to go 124 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: to work. It went through like a warm up mode 125 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: and then shut down at the first stop. Signing came 126 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: to okay, but but, but the shutdown didn't occur until 127 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: the misfire problem was resolved, right, which happened about a 128 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: year ago. I've been running the truck almost a year 129 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: with that misfire issue, and it did shut down on 130 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: me a couple of times last winter, and then after 131 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: the cold went away and stopped doing it. Okay, there 132 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: is a known and the reason I'm I'm just I 133 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: just want to get this one out of the way. 134 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: There's a known issue with and it sounds crazy, but 135 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's true to the wall. Uh you know, 136 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: incorrect spark plugs in that vehicle alright, have a resistance 137 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: issue and they will cause the A s D the 138 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: automatic shutdown relay to be engaged and turned the truck 139 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: off just when it first out of half. But I 140 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: had the factory spark plugs in it and then and 141 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: then I did take it to a couple of my 142 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: local mechanics before going to the dealer to try to 143 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: figure out the misfire, and the first mechanics put new 144 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: spark plugs in it, which didn't fix the misfire. So 145 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if those are the correct spark plugs 146 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: that are in it now because since been to the dealer, also, 147 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: excessively gapped plugs will do the same thing, so it 148 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: incorrect gap plugs. Anything that changes the way that those 149 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: plugs operate. There seems to be a lot of potential 150 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: problems that they've got to be and if if memory 151 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: serves me correct, the correct plug should be a champion 152 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: and and you know, correctly gapped, just to eliminate it 153 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: off the table. All right, right, okay, right, because I've 154 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 1: actually uh we went up to him the second time 155 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: and then they thought it was the electronic key module, 156 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, because it actually doesn't take a key to start. 157 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: It starts off the key fob, and and they replaced 158 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: that because I had to buy two new keys. It 159 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: was kind of a pricey fix, which didn't fix the problem. 160 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: And now it's back up there. I've been up there 161 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: promised the week. I haven't heard from yet, but I 162 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: don't know have they been able to duplicate it. They 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: had duplicated the problem. And actually when they had the truck, 164 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: when they when they were starting the truck, they had 165 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: no uh, no electronics, but the engine would start. No 166 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: no light, no radio, no heater. But that's never happened 167 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: to me. So they actually have to do a different 168 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: problem than I can get it to do. Ask them 169 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: to consider this. And I hate to be the you know, 170 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: I hate it when I'm trying to fix a car 171 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: and somebody sticks their bazoo in my business. But you know, 172 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm looking for some insight, another opinion, to 173 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: make sure they're not trying to lead me down in 174 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: the wrong road. Right, Yeah, no, I get it, And 175 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm and I'm just trying to help everybody fix cars. 176 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to upset anybody's apple cart. Um you know, 177 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: ask them to consider doing um an a t M test, 178 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: all right, and an automatic and automatic test of the 179 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: actuator that if they go in with a scan tool 180 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: and you you actually cycle the automatic shutdown relay and 181 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: you know it will actually cycle it on off, on off, 182 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: on on a on a specific rhythmic count. And I've 183 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: had it on Chrysler products where you'll do this test 184 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: and every once in a while it stutters, it just 185 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: misses a step, and you know it's a it's a 186 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: bad shutdown relay. Okay, that's the good that's that's the 187 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: good news. That test is pretty easy to do. The 188 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: bad news is the a s D the automatic shutdown 189 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: relay is part of the tip OFM or the totally 190 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: integrated power module. Right. They actually mentioned that as it 191 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: might be a problem that might be when they get 192 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: the key. They said that that module might be bad 193 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: as well, and talk to me to doing the key things. So, 194 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,239 Speaker 1: but but that will that will help test that component 195 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: al right now, this only seems to happen when it 196 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: stiff doing the a lot of electronics. You know. Listen, 197 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Tom was up Tom, Tom, my engineer, was up in Watertown, 198 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: New York this week. He was working on a radio 199 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: station up there with a transmitter um at thirty two below. Tom, 200 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: tell the story real quick. You want here what happens 201 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: to electronic below big broadcast transmitters? Uh, in an unheated 202 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: building you don't like to work anymore, and it caused 203 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: the radio transmitter to shut off. So called on electronics 204 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: don't get along at what level? It depends on a 205 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: lot of factors and how the you know, logic and 206 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: the resistance value of that board is put together in 207 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: a sense, uh, you know, I mean, if we want 208 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: to take it outside the realm of you know, looking 209 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: for the hardcore problem. I still remember in my earliest days, 210 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: one of the simplest problems I found for a Stolling 211 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: vehicle called just like you're describing to me, was nothing 212 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: more than a loose connection at the negative battery cable. 213 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: It just it was a side terminal GM product on 214 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: a suburban and ninety suburban as a matter of fact, 215 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: I remember way back when, and it just had the 216 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: least little bit of you know, get to the post 217 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: and tightened it right up, and problem went away. It 218 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: was gone, so and and and that's not the same 219 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: in your case. I wouldn't also be considering main engine grounds, 220 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: you know, main computer grounds. I would be looking after 221 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: it stalls when it restarts when And that's a good 222 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: question I should really ask you, Troy, when it when 223 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: it restarts, How quick does it restart? Is it? Sometimes 224 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: usually when the first time it happens, Sometimes it starts 225 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: right back up and only runs for a few seconds 226 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: and then shuts back down right then. If I go 227 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: to try to restart it, it uh, it tries to, 228 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: It turns over, but it's not. It's acting like it's 229 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: not getting me the spark or fuel like that. Shut down. 230 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: The fact those lights are on it when it's when 231 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to start it. Oh my gosh, I'd be 232 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: curious if if when it goes into that no start, 233 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: if if we could just real quick, you know, um, 234 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: listen to an injector, put annoid light on an injector, 235 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, pull a spark plug wire and just for 236 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: spark what are we missing? Real quick, you know, just 237 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: ten of fifteen minutes and more. It usually starts back up, 238 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: and then sometimes it seems like sometimes it'll run. You know, 239 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: like the good news is I think you have a 240 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: diagnosable problem. I just don't know how they're diagnosing it. Yeah, 241 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, you say, a t M test and a 242 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: t M A t M test and actuator test of 243 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: the A S D relay which should be located in 244 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: the tip them totally integrated power module on that vehicle, 245 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: A t M T and S S D M. He said, Well, 246 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,359 Speaker 1: an A t M test of the A S D relay. Okay, okay, 247 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: all right, actual actuator test mode and an actuator test 248 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: of the A S D relay. Yeah, auto repairs all 249 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: about you know, abbreviations and uh shortcuts. We were collivating 250 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: a specific term. So do that, ask them to check 251 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: that this week, call me back next week, let me 252 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: know what happens. All right, thanks all, very welcome sir. 253 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: Happy new year, Ronading the Car Doctor. Right five five 254 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: zero zero, We're back right after this R eight five 255 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: five five zero nine nine zero zero gets you on 256 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: the road to get in your car fixed with Ronny 257 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. Now back to ron Hey, welcome back. 258 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to Arnold Benville Benville? Is 259 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: that Benviller Denville, New Jersey. Are welcome to the Car Doctor. Sir. Hi, 260 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: how are you good, sir? What's going on? Well? Uh, 261 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: I've been listening to you for a while and I 262 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: really appreciate everything. Well, you're helped. But there's a question 263 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: that's been bothering me and my friends for a while 264 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: about the quest of labor rate between different car makes 265 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: from the dealers. I understand the quest of parts varies 266 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: from you know, Audie too, Sue Guru two Chevy, but 267 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: h and even the time to do certain jobs. And 268 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't bother me the quest of parts in the time. 269 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: But as far as i'm you know, I might be wrong, 270 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: but labor is labor you know, whether you know my 271 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: son's Subaru, the labor rate at the dealers like a 272 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: D ten an hour, and my auties a hundred and 273 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: fifty dollars an hour, whether it's A four or you know, 274 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: in R eight. So I don't understand where they come 275 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: up with this high end labor rates. You know, labor's 276 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: labor um. You ever put a roof on your house? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 277 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: what kind of roof do you have? Uh? The single roof? Yeah, 278 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: this is the regular asphalt shingle roof, right, you know, 279 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: I've got an asshult single roof on my house. It was, 280 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years back. We put a 281 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: roof on it, whatever it was. And you know, I 282 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: always think about that whenever I start talking about labor rates, 283 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: because the cost to put the roof on that asphalt 284 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: shingle house is eight thousand dollars. The cost to put 285 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: a copper roof on that same house is double that. 286 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: And that's probably the comparison or the best comparison are 287 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: gonna give you betwixt between the technology difference between the 288 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: Subaru and the Audi is really the difference between the 289 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: asphalt roof and the copper roof. It really has to 290 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: do with, you know, the technology involved, and the skill 291 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: set and the and and the the the the training 292 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: and the amount of you know, equipment required to service 293 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: each individual vehicle. Listen it, I get it. Breaks look 294 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: like breaks. You know, the brakes on the super or 295 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: the same as the brakes on the Auti to a 296 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: certain degree, they are all right. But you know, since 297 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: you said brakes, well we'll talk about breaks on on 298 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: the majority of autias today, the rear brake calipers are electronic, 299 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: meaning that there's no parking break. Do you have Do 300 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: you have electric parking break in your audi Arnold? Yeah, 301 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: So the rear caliper on that is, is an electric 302 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: actuator that requires a scan tool to you know, we 303 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: retract the piston, change the pad, expand the piston and 304 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: do a reset. Now Subaru started doing that the last 305 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: couple of years, but not at the same level as 306 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: out and you know, they sort of play catchup and 307 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: they go back and forth. You know, car manufacturers look 308 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: at your costs to run the shop, the skill set involved, 309 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: the the level of technician necessary, just like that roofing company, alright, 310 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: the the guy that puts the copper roof on the house, 311 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: or the or the the tinplate roof or the the 312 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: stucco tile roof is a whole lot different technician than 313 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: the guy that does, you know, the asphalt shingles. I'm 314 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: not saying anybody smarter or worse or you know, better 315 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: than the other, but it's a different skill set, uh, 316 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: you know. And that's that's really what it what it's about. 317 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: It's the cost of labor. I have a friend that 318 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: actually works at at a local outie dealer, and Michael 319 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: send me pictures of of some of these outis when 320 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: they come apart. It's staggering. I'm amazed that they can 321 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: actually get the cars back together and and and not 322 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: have problems. And you know, right, and it's you know, yeah, 323 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: you know, I understand that. But like let's say an 324 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: oil change. Oil change you know at this super dealer 325 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: is like fifty bucks and they charge two hundred dollars 326 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: for an oil change. Now I understand, you know, that's 327 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: a flat fee because you have to take off the 328 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: body path, the float, the panels underneath the car, and 329 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: I've done it myself. You need two different, three different 330 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: types of tools to remove it. And the panels. But 331 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: in general, you know, to do a simple job. It's 332 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: still as the time. I understand the training. But the 333 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: SUPERU guys have to be trained, and the AUDI guys 334 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: have to have to be trained. But the AUDI guys 335 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: are working on a copper tin roof. Where's the Where's 336 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: the SUPERU guys are really more asphalt angle. It's it's 337 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: more common. I'll tell you what, Arnold, Don't run away. 338 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to continue this conversation. Let me pull over 339 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: and take this pause. We'll pick it up right here. 340 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: We'll be left off. I'm running Any in the car 341 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: occer eight five five five zero nine zero zero. We're 342 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: coming back right for this. Don't go away eight fi 343 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine zero zero. Get you in 344 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: touch with Ron and Any in the car. Doctor here, 345 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: Roy Arnold, are you still there, sir, Yes, I am so. 346 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: You know. I was thinking about it, and I think 347 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: some of it comes down to the tin roof and 348 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: the asphalt roof concept, and a lot of it has 349 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: to do with the technology. I'll lot of it has 350 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: to do with maybe some of the repair procedures, you know. 351 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: But I also think, I guess I have to also 352 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: admit that some of it probably has to do with marketing. 353 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: Uh you know, do you go to the movies? Oh yeah, 354 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: do use fan Dango? Uh No, I don't. I go 355 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: online and buy subtracted from the movie theater. Okay, So 356 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: you know some people will do fan dango, some people 357 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: will buy directly online. Some people will just you know, 358 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: get in line at the theater and you know, hope 359 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: they get the seats. It's a lifestyle, right, and that's 360 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: what cars are today too. You know, why did you 361 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: buy an Outy and not something else? Why because I 362 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: enjoy the Uh well, I enjoyed the technology and how 363 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: it drives. Right. Did you did you look at anything else? 364 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: Did you go drive a Ford for example? Uh no, 365 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: this is this is my fourth Outy. So yeah, and 366 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: you know your that's your lifestyle and nothing wrong with Ford. 367 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: I think Ford makes a great car. I've got a 368 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: lot of family members and Fords. You know me personally, 369 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't buy or drive an OUTI because I think 370 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: it's an expensive car to maintain. Hence question, right, Um, 371 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: you know it's it's just not my lifestyle. And that's okay. 372 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: I think what you've got to consider, all right, is 373 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: you have you. You're you're you're you're living a premium lifestyle. 374 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: And that's great. You know what Ziga Zune got blessed Arnold. 375 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're enjoying it. You know, life's too short, 376 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: right brother, Um, it's it's it's you know, it's yeah, 377 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, is it worth? I'll tell you what. I'm 378 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: gonna have to try and get some permission from my 379 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: friend Mike. He sent me some pictures. He's got one 380 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: of an OUTI a two year old out either repairing 381 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: the wiring harness on. They've got the engine and the 382 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: trans out of the car. They've got the front fenders 383 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: off the car. They're there. I'm like, how can this be? 384 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: And he said, wrong, we get into such problems. The 385 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: technology is just so deeply embedded that it's it's and 386 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: and you know, and and that's an issue. Um. Ever, 387 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: look at and consider why some independent repair shops, what 388 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: their labor rates are, and why are they different amongst themselves. 389 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Next thing, I was gonna say, I have old Porsche 390 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: that I go to an independent shop, but he also 391 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: fixes new Porsches and he has to spend twenty dollars 392 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: for the porch computer. Yeah, and all the software updates. 393 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: But his laborer, I mean porch labor, it's a hundred 394 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: seventy at the dealer and he charges and you know 395 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the overhead right well, and that's and 396 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: that's the other side of this, that's the overhead. You know. 397 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: I get a little nervous when I'll go out and 398 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: I'll pick up parts and then I get it some 399 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: people again, We're back to that lifestyle experience, right. There's 400 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: a there's a couple of Toyota dealers local to us 401 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: that you know, I'll go in for parts once in 402 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: a while. I can't get it from my other guy, 403 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: and I've got to run up the road. And I 404 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: mean it's a mausoleum. It's marble floors, it's it's white tile, 405 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's chandelier ceilings. And I'm going 406 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm in a parts department or I'm in the Waldorf 407 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: Where where the heck am I? You know, who's paying 408 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: for this? Who's paying for the thirty eight chocolate chip 409 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: cookies that are kept warm? You know? And in the 410 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: cust service, somebody's got to pay for that. You know, 411 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: We're back to it's a lifestyle thing, all right, And 412 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: and you know, the biggest problem and I probably won't 413 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: see it in my lifetime, my career, but I think 414 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: the biggest problem that's really facing the transportation sector is, 415 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: you know, who's going to fix the cars twenty years 416 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: from now, because when the independents are pushed out by 417 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: technology that I think to a degree will happen at 418 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: a higher level than it is now as we watch 419 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: them full you know, the dealer, now we'll have that 420 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: ability to go is a hundred and fifty enough, you 421 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: know what, maybe it's two hundred, maybe it's two fifty 422 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: and um. You know, it's also regional too, because I 423 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: have friends and other states and the same you know, 424 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: now he there is like labor and I can answer 425 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: that question cost of living, right, Yeah, you're you know, 426 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: welcome to New Jersey, the highest property tax state and 427 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: one of the highest property tax states in in in 428 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: the in the country. Of course, we'll see with the 429 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: we'll see what the Republican tax bill does is and 430 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: maybe people in trying will wake up and say, hey, 431 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: we've got a lower property taxes. People are screaming, um, 432 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: but I can't talk about that. That makes it a 433 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: political show. And you know in almost to the great 434 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: Bob Grant, I don't want to go there. Um you 435 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: come up. It's basically lifestyle and technology. That's level of technology, 436 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: that's the cars. I think it's lifestyle. I think it's technology, 437 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: and I think it's overhead. I think those are the 438 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: I think those are the three factors that are that 439 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: are you know, so you know, listen, you can be 440 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: proud right you're you're driving a copper tin roof car. 441 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: You know it's you know, it's you can when you 442 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: drive down the street, you'll you know, the chrome will 443 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: will will shine a little bit more of the paint. 444 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: We'll have a little bit more luster to it. Ar Old, 445 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: you're living the good life. You didn't know it. Thanks 446 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: for reminding me of that, all right. And every time 447 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: you're getting that out here, you'll always you'll always think 448 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: of that, brother, You'll always say, hey, I've got the 449 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: good life here. It's you know, it's it's it is 450 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: what it is. And I'll tell you this, and I 451 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: say this in all sincerity, that out he that out 452 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: he needs to be fixed at the deal or you 453 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: need to find somebody blonde here, blue eyes. It speaks 454 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: German that can you know, as an independent that's that 455 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: is a very specific automobile. And they're getting they're getting 456 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: more and more back to the dealer because of that 457 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: technology that's in there. Two thousand dollar front break job 458 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: just for the front breaks. Yeah, it's how's that lifestyle 459 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: thing going for you? You know, you know, I'll tell you. 460 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you a real quick story when when when 461 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: I first started dating my wife, my late father in 462 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: law had a Maserati maraq. Alright, this is this is 463 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: this is the mid seventies, right, so so you know 464 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: when I was that, I was that jerky teenage kid 465 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: in the black letter jacket and the Frank Zappa boots 466 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: and you know, just just learning how to fix cars. 467 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: This is forty years ago, for crying out loud. And 468 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: I showed up for our Saturday night date, you know, 469 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: and he's in the garage and he's trying to start 470 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: it and it doesn't start, and there's it's a beautiful 471 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: it's a yellow Maserati it is you know, it looks 472 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: like it's doing Twitter miles an hour in the in 473 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: the driveway. It's one of those deals, right, and it 474 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: just won't run and he had just had its service. 475 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget this. This was nineteen seventy nine, 476 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: eight nineteen seventy nine or so, and he had just 477 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: had its service, spent close to eight hundred dollars you know, 478 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: the traditional tune up, and had it washed all right 479 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine. That was a lot of money. 480 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: Eight hundred bucks, okay um, And and it wouldn't start, so, 481 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, again back to basics. I listened to it 482 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: and I said, gee, it sounds like it's not getting 483 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: spark and he said, well, they washed it and a 484 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: Maserati mirack. The engines in the back of the distributor 485 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: caps exposed, and I said, let's take the distributor cap off. Um. 486 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: This is around the moment my wife came out and 487 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: she said, I'm ready to go, and he said, get 488 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: back in the house. We're fixing the Maserati. So I 489 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, and I had, oh boy, this I better 490 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: be right because he was a big guy who was 491 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: six ft two to twenty he was, you know. So 492 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: we um took the distributor cap off. It was soaked 493 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: in water, wiped out the cap, put it back together, 494 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: started the car of the room I want to go 495 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: for a ride. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go. Right. We 496 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: get in the car. We go up through two Away 497 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: and this was forty years ago, and he's gone so 498 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: we can't get arrested. We're doing a hundred and five 499 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: going up Route two Await north through North Jersey. Third 500 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: year and he looks over it me and he goes, 501 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: what do you think, Go go, go go. You know 502 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 1: it's it was a lifestyle thing, all right. And I 503 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: never forgot the exhilaration of that ride. But I remember 504 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: asking him. I said, what are you gonna do if 505 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: you get pulled over? He says, I'm gonna pay the 506 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: ticket because that's what I signed up for, Arnold. That's 507 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: what you signed up for. You you're driving an out 508 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: all right. Well, thank you very much. You're very welcome, sir. 509 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: You have a happy new year, and thanks for being 510 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: part of the car Doctor family. You're very welcome. Height 511 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine zero zero. The Car 512 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: Doctor is coming back right after this. That's right. If 513 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: you call and we're not live, you can leave a 514 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: message and we'll call you back to get you on 515 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: the air with Ron eight five five zero nine nine 516 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: zero zero. Speaking of Ron here he is. You know, Tom, 517 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: It's it's funny. That last caller really joggled my memory. 518 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. I know, we were talking during the break. 519 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: Funny story. I mean, we were doing a hundred and 520 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: five in the fog because it was just and it 521 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: wasn't a to the ground fog, but it was just 522 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: like about three ft off the ground. The fog is 523 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: rolling off the front of that windshield. I'm I'm visiting 524 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 1: that in my mind now like it was yesterday, and 525 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: that thing was just idling at a hundred five miles 526 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: an hour, third gear, and he said, I got three 527 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: more to go or two more to go? What do you? 528 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god? Yeah go. We got up to nobody's listening, right. 529 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: We had it up to about a dwight and I said, okay, 530 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: you know it's and then we kind of backed it 531 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: off because we're starting to running the traffic. But that thing, 532 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: just that was a two h a mile an hour. 533 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: That was probably the the first time I was ever 534 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: in a two hundred mile an hour plus a car. 535 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: Um And you know the nice thing was you said 536 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: it was a yellow car, which is good in the fog. 537 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: At least you'd see something coming back. I mean it 538 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: was a blur. I remember we we you know, we 539 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: were talking about the features and again it's it trickled 540 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: some memories in me. Um. You know Maserati Miraka seventy 541 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: four Maserati Mirak had two horns in it. Yeah, it 542 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: had a It had a low pitch and then it 543 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: had a And I asked him why, Well, he said, 544 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: because when you when you're in traffic and somebody cuts 545 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: you off and you want to get them out of 546 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: the way, you do that beep. But when you go 547 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: pick up your buddy to go fishing on Sunday morning 548 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: and you don't want to wake up the family, and 549 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: you know, he hears the reboop and he knows to 550 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: come out. I mean, you know, yeah, it was that's cool. 551 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: It was a goofy thing. But that just stuck with 552 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: me forty five years later, Um, you know, or however 553 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: long it's been. I just like wob but that was yeah, 554 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: he was you know, that was that was quite the car. 555 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: But I never forgot that. He goes, you're living a lifestyle, 556 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: and that's that's where it comes from. And that's and 557 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: that's what cars are. Cars are a lifestyle. And we 558 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: don't realize that. You know. One of the things I 559 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: could have talked to Arnold about is and something to 560 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: bring up. You know, go get a key affixed. Why 561 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 1: is it so cheap to get a key affixed? It's 562 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: a cheap car, all right, Or it's a cheaper car. 563 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: It's a less expensive car, not a worst car. It's 564 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: a cheaper car. There's less technology in it. Eddie going 565 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: to squid as Capital, wrote an email. And I have 566 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: to warn everybody Eddie's a little biased. He's a customer 567 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: of the shop and he listens to the show every week. 568 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: And I love Eddie to death, but he's right. I 569 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: think he's right here. You can just take out the 570 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: part about Oreota, motive and slash and just a good 571 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: independent mechanic, Eddie writes. He says, ask him if you 572 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: need a hard procedure done. Role surgeons the same as 573 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: a rookie surgeon out of med school, the same as 574 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: a surgeon with twenty years experience and a very low 575 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: death complication rate, same as a mechanic and older, more 576 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: experienced competent one is worth more than a rookie one 577 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: who has less cars. Coming back after a job is 578 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: done the first time driving that three thousand pound weapon 579 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: down the road, and attention to detail at Oreota, thanks 580 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: Eddie versus a lub and Greece place that Ariota mechanic 581 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: is worth multiple multiples per hour more for the same 582 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: exact job. And then he goes on the point out 583 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: that's why I have twenty five cars in my park 584 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: a lot waiting to get in, which I but you know, 585 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: Eddie going to quote his capital and he's and he's right. 586 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: I never thought of it like that. It's it's it's 587 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: life style, it's value of the technician, it's it's and 588 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: and I've got to tell you all right, um, you 589 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: know it's it's getting harder for the dealers to find 590 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: technicians because the technology they're out there on the curve. 591 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I mean the same thing with me. 592 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: When you know people I'll show up at a radio 593 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: station and they'll sit there and go wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 594 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna charge how much? It's like, well, first of all, 595 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: understand I'm from the New York area. Second of all, 596 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: understand I spent twenty years in the New York New 597 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: York City radio station, number one market in the country, 598 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: you're young, you're getting what you pay for it, and 599 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: then they're done that that experience level, UM, and that 600 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: experience level has to count for something. UM. One of 601 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 1: the things I always say about dealer text and they 602 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: have it a lot tougher than everybody realizes and gives 603 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: them credit for, is because they're out there on the 604 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: cutting edge of technology. By the time it trickles down 605 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: to people, you know, at the independent shop level, it's 606 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: been filtered a couple of times, it's been corrected, we've 607 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: seen the problem. The problem is repeated itself. It's got 608 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: some veracity, it's got some you know, it's it's in 609 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: the pattern failure database, so to um, you know, and 610 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: it's just it's just that, gosh, aren't important. Let me 611 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause and then we'll jump 612 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: and we'll grab this call um afterwards. That makes sense Toime. 613 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: Good deal. I'm running anating of the car doctor. Will 614 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Welcome back. Weren't any of 615 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: the car doctorate by five zero zero seven card doctor 616 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: phone number. Let's get over and talk to Bill and Harrisonburg, Virginia. Bill, 617 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: thanks for waiting. We appreciate your patients. Sir, how can 618 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: I help Bill? Did Bill fall asleep? I think we've 619 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: had we kept Bill there too long. Bill rats, Bill's gone. 620 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: Let me do this email over trying to find Bill. 621 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: Ron is Gary and was hard for it. I've got 622 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: a two thousand eight accurate and the battery goes dead, 623 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: or the battery was going dead, and I'm not quite 624 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: sure how to fix it. I had it taken to 625 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: I had it. I had it taken to my local garage, 626 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: and they replaced the battery. Here's the interesting part, because 627 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: it's not just a dead battery story. The interesting part 628 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 1: is that the battery that was put in the car 629 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: was a triple a battery that was just two years old. 630 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: When I started looking around and talking about it to 631 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: my friends, several of them commented that they've had similar situations. 632 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts, Gary West, Hartford, Connecticut. You know, Gary, 633 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: it's it's a funny story, but well, it's not funny 634 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: in that sense. It's not funny like yellow Maserati moraq 635 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: on a hundred and five, but it's it's it's funny 636 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: in the sense that and again, you know, it's things 637 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: I hear behind the scenes, you know, off the cuff, that. Yeah, 638 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: I I hear things that Triple A is buying. They're 639 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: using fresh batteries, but they're older. There may be batteries 640 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: because batteries are rotated out of stock of repair shops 641 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 1: and the batteries are, um, you know, maybe it's it's 642 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: got to be rotated every three to four months, and 643 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: maybe Triple A is buying that four month old battery 644 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: instead of that one month old battery. And it seems 645 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: like Triple A battery he's of late from what I'm reading, 646 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: or failing at a slightly higher rate than others. And 647 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: I believe it has something to do with age. So 648 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not so thrilled. And somebody says, hey, 649 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: a Triple A battery installed, because my first question is, yeah, 650 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: check the date code? How old is that battery? Really? 651 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: So this may not be such an unheard of experience, 652 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: but I'm glad the vehicle is fixed. And thanks for 653 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: being to remember the car doctor family, I understand we 654 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: found Bill. Bill is there? Bill? Are you there? There? 655 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: You go? Sir? See what technology is? We? Um? We 656 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: we got to talking so much, we put you to sleep. 657 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: We're sorry, Um, how can I help you today? I 658 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes here. Okay, I got a 659 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: question about having a vehicle alignment done. Okay, should you 660 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: get a two wheel alignman? Are you front end alignment 661 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: or four wheel? For years, I've done four wheel alignment. 662 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: But I got in the discussion of my daughter recently 663 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: and she said, oh, she's got some friends that grew 664 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: up around cars, and they said, no, you only need 665 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: to have the two wheels or the drive wheels of 666 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: the car aligned. The other two you don't matter. I 667 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 1: don't think that's correct. I don't think that's correct either. 668 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: So ask ask your daughter to ask your friends. Um, 669 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: not so much the drive wheels, but let's say the 670 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: front wheels are perfectly in line, but one of the 671 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: rear wheels is towed in. Ask them what's that going 672 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: to do to the alignment and the tire wear and 673 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: the handling characteristic of the vehicle. All right, well, I agree, 674 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: and that's what I've always thought. And also, does it 675 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: make a difference between say, of pickup truck or an 676 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: suv or a rock or sedan, Well, all the same classifications. 677 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: So to speaking to me, to me, you're gonna do 678 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: a four wheel alignment, You're gonna put the heads on 679 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: all four wheels anyway, because a lot of the machines 680 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: need all four heads there anyhow. All right, it's it's 681 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: just part of the process today, you know, it's not 682 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: it's not night where we can do two wheel alignments. 683 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 1: I think two wheel alignments for people that are living 684 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: in the past and are not aware of the technology. 685 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: There's that word again, of what the cars are today. 686 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: Four wheel alignments are necessary evil, especially going forward on 687 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: newer cars with steering angle sensors and all the technology 688 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: that's built into them. But go back to your daughter's friends, 689 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: ask them that question, call me back, let me know 690 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: what their responses are. Haven't called me because I'm rotting 691 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, 692 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: they're priceless, see it.