Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janne Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hey guys, what's up. Welcome to Wine Down. Um. So
Speaker 1: I am in Connecticut right now filming a movie, and UM,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of stuff has recently hit the press,
Speaker 1: and I honestly, I just want to have a fun
Speaker 1: show today and not talk about that. Um probably when
Speaker 1: I get back or um, yeah, I mean definitely I
Speaker 1: want to process that. But I'm I'm still kind of
Speaker 1: I'm still processing it all, and right now I'm excited
Speaker 1: to just have a nice little distraction and be here.
Speaker 1: I'm I've got gg with me today. Hello, and oh
Speaker 1: look who just walked in extra caffee. That voice is,
Speaker 1: of course, um, Ryan McPartland. So I am super excited
Speaker 1: to have them on the show. And we're also going
Speaker 1: to have Maria um zoom in with us. But it's
Speaker 1: been really fun because I have I have gotten so
Speaker 1: many messages about the both of you, So I'm like
Speaker 1: super excited to just like I'm super excited to just like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, we're gonna address and I have some
Speaker 1: people to, um, you know, ask you guys some questions
Speaker 1: because so many people are very intrigued by both of you,
Speaker 1: and I think the first one is for gig because
Speaker 1: people are like, is she or nanny? Is she your sister?
Speaker 1: Is she? Like? Who is she? What are you? Who
Speaker 1: are you? And what are you? You know, honestly, it
Speaker 1: depends on who you ask. If you ask Joanna, I
Speaker 1: don't know. We're just I know it's kind of mysterious too,
Speaker 1: but um, I don't really consider it nanny. I kind
Speaker 1: of just hang out with the kids while Janna is
Speaker 1: a way, but then we literally go and meet up
Speaker 1: with Joanna. Yeah, so we hang out. And I will
Speaker 1: say this, like, I of all the movie sets that
Speaker 1: I've done and had the kids on, this has been
Speaker 1: the best experience because you're just like, I mean, you
Speaker 1: hang out with me all day on set, and then
Speaker 1: you know, you're so good with the kids, and it's
Speaker 1: so it's just I see them more than I've ever
Speaker 1: seen that I'm on a movie set. Because if you
Speaker 1: actually enjoy coming to set, I think, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: It's really fun. It's interesting because I've never even what's
Speaker 1: something that like you realize like, oh wow, this is
Speaker 1: how it works. Something that hasn't haven't hasn't seen a
Speaker 1: movie set before. Um, I didn't realize how many people
Speaker 1: were behind the camera and how many cameras there are.
Speaker 1: I know that sounds like so basic and simple, but
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of moving parts. I still haven't
Speaker 1: figured it out. I mean, like, and then like, why
Speaker 1: are they here? Were filming that one scene and we
Speaker 1: had fake snow and whatever, and so I'm sure y'all
Speaker 1: saw it on Joanna's Instagram story. They had tacked me
Speaker 1: with fake snowballs, and Jason decided that he was going
Speaker 1: to throw a snowball on what he's he's a script supervisor.
Speaker 1: He's a script supervisor, and he's you know, really it's Darren.
Speaker 1: It's a very important job, it is. And he was
Speaker 1: like really focused and concentrated and whatever. So basically what
Speaker 1: he does is he makes sure that Ryan is saying
Speaker 1: the right line. It's a very hard job. He's not
Speaker 1: always on top of it, but he's like super focused,
Speaker 1: super concentrated. And Jay swarms up and throws a snowball
Speaker 1: on his laptop, and this man death stares me and
Speaker 1: it's like he's just in shock, and I'm in shock too,
Speaker 1: and I start laughing and dying laughing, and I just
Speaker 1: couldn't control it, and then he's like mad that I'm laughing,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm so sorry, and and just so
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of people are asking too
Speaker 1: in the comments, like how you meet g actually met her?
Speaker 1: She was care dot com. Oh they're not. She my
Speaker 1: friend Pamela, who you guys have heard on the podcast before.
Speaker 1: She um, she found gig And then I was like,
Speaker 1: can I please take Gigi with me to film this
Speaker 1: movie because I didn't know how long. Honestly, I was
Speaker 1: going to have the kids up here. But it's just
Speaker 1: going so well that Yeah, at first we were like,
Speaker 1: we're not sure how long the Kauds they're gonna last,
Speaker 1: but now they're they don't want to go. Um, Ryan,
Speaker 1: So a lot of people are saying, um, is Ryan
Speaker 1: your co star? Obviously, yes, Terro my co star. Is
Speaker 1: he's single? Because well then they go on to say
Speaker 1: this a few certain things, um, but a lot of
Speaker 1: them said like they're just so happy that, like you know,
Speaker 1: like you guys are so fun together and you laugh
Speaker 1: and you have a good time. So let's just address
Speaker 1: that you are very happily married. Go for it, married
Speaker 1: going on nineteen years. I want to say, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're she is not my daughter, so uh yeah,
Speaker 1: and no, I'm very glad that I could be here
Speaker 1: during this time and you could have this experience, this
Speaker 1: fun experience because we're laughing so much that, um, I
Speaker 1: feel like there are no mistakes, right, So it's really
Speaker 1: great that man, how how many months ago did we
Speaker 1: start this process of putting it together? And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I mean, Ryan, Um, he's how long have
Speaker 1: you had this idea for this movie? It's a couple
Speaker 1: of years now. Jessica adding a writer, Jessica Cusaddding. She
Speaker 1: and I just sat down in the room and said, hey,
Speaker 1: we want to do get her writing a Christmas movie
Speaker 1: because she's such a great writer. And um, we just
Speaker 1: talked about the rom coms, the romances that we both
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a sucker for her chick flicks, I've
Speaker 1: gotta be honest. So we started talking about the Notebooks.
Speaker 1: We don't know Alabama, I've read all of his books.
Speaker 1: Nicholas Sparks. Yeah, did you feel like you're on the
Speaker 1: Notebook set a little bit down by the lighthouse and
Speaker 1: just gotten in a rowboat? It was crazy? Um, And
Speaker 1: then so yeah, we started talking about those and then
Speaker 1: what was the other one that I don't want to
Speaker 1: give a story point away, so I'm not going to
Speaker 1: mention this other movie. But there was a lot of
Speaker 1: the a lot of things that we were talking about. Um,
Speaker 1: we just started going what do we like about that?
Speaker 1: We started pulling different um things and going, now, how
Speaker 1: do we fit that into a Christmas movie? And then
Speaker 1: it kind of organically took shape a treatment we pitched it,
Speaker 1: and then um, when that treatment got into Jana's hands,
Speaker 1: that's when the magic began. No, no, no, no, but no.
Speaker 1: I mean I remember zooming with you know you and
Speaker 1: Jess and the producers, and it's just and at the
Speaker 1: time I was married, and um, we just you know,
Speaker 1: we we started like this really awesome friendship and working friendship,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it felt like we knew each other for
Speaker 1: a long time. Just over our first zoom. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like an instant like kinship. Is that the Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like just instant like you know, um friendship. And
Speaker 1: it's just been so crazy because you've you've been on that.
Speaker 1: There's so much that has happened since we started. And
Speaker 1: that was like what six months ago, Yeah, probably less
Speaker 1: than that because it was. It's been a journey, man,
Speaker 1: It's been a real journey. Because I remember getting that
Speaker 1: text from you saying that you were you're out of
Speaker 1: commission for a little while for the notes calls and
Speaker 1: stuff like that that we're talking about and why, and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, you know, I just didn't even
Speaker 1: know if this would go forward. I didn't know if
Speaker 1: you'd have that the the bandwidth and being the headspace
Speaker 1: to move forward with something, you know, a romance, a
Speaker 1: Christmas romance with some comedic elements, and I thank god
Speaker 1: you did because I feel like, you know, during this
Speaker 1: time when everything came together, Um, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit I would like to call myself a blessing.
Speaker 1: I mean like you you you, like you, M G
Speaker 1: G both have been such a blessing on this too,
Speaker 1: because again, like you've been like there through all of it,
Speaker 1: and like I remember calling you and just like bawling,
Speaker 1: and you were just like like you were so you
Speaker 1: sent me you know, podcast listen to and you just
Speaker 1: became like such a good friend. And I just to
Speaker 1: be here and then feel supported and like you're always
Speaker 1: trying to make me laugh. I mean it's just and
Speaker 1: then G two, you're not trying to you naturally You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm naturally funny. No, I'm not. I'm just talked too much.
Speaker 1: You'll find some laughter in there somewhere. But it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's been really nice and I just I love um.
Speaker 1: But Janna, it's also really impressive that you're doing this
Speaker 1: movie and you've I mean, you're so strong, it's very
Speaker 1: it is amazing. Like I woke up today after we're
Speaker 1: working until five am, and I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: you know, I've got maybe two things on my plate today.
Speaker 1: Maybe one of them was trying to get a workout,
Speaker 1: and that was getting to Starbucks and that was it.
Speaker 1: So one check one and you're like, I've already been
Speaker 1: up with kids. It's have you ready from my podcast?
Speaker 1: You know, you just sign your papers the other day
Speaker 1: to like, you know, seal the deal in your divorce.
Speaker 1: I mean, all of this stuff that you deal with
Speaker 1: is amazing and are very graceful. Yeah, that's what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I had a little cry fast on set,
Speaker 1: but you know, you guys were there to you have
Speaker 1: to feel the feelings otherwise it just feels like a
Speaker 1: normal day. That's true, but you have to go through
Speaker 1: to be stronger on the other side, Could I just say,
Speaker 1: though the podcast, Jamma is much nicer to me. What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? People are gonna think I'm no
Speaker 1: like you said on My Stories yesterday. There's a there's
Speaker 1: a before Midnight Jannat and there's an after Midnightianna. And
Speaker 1: they're two very different people, very different, but they're very
Speaker 1: different because I've seen after Midnigiana like nooning. It's okay,
Speaker 1: it's just hanger. There's a angry gry. But I will
Speaker 1: say this, but I will say this that all you
Speaker 1: of to to do to accomplish what you accomplished in
Speaker 1: a day, you know, at some point you got to
Speaker 1: crack the whip a little bit. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where, yeah, because there's so
Speaker 1: much like I am, like trying to do so many
Speaker 1: different things, and yeah, when I don't have food in
Speaker 1: my system, you might get a little That's okay, you
Speaker 1: know what, I get the same one here to hand
Speaker 1: me a banana. Um, but let's take a break and
Speaker 1: then let's get Marian. Hey Maria, Hi, Hi honey, So
Speaker 1: we missed you last night on the on the on
Speaker 1: the night from my back. Okay, so let's just talk
Speaker 1: about how you got on this film, because Ryan had
Speaker 1: a really big part in. Um in basically begging you
Speaker 1: to be a part of this, for it for well,
Speaker 1: no for me. Maria and I have known each other
Speaker 1: for a long time and we just keep pumping into
Speaker 1: each other at events and parties and and um, I
Speaker 1: just love seeing her. I threw a touchdown pass. I
Speaker 1: want to say, you might have thrown me a two
Speaker 1: point conversion or the other way around at a at
Speaker 1: a football event. And um, we bumped into each other
Speaker 1: at a Christmas party two years ago and we just
Speaker 1: started talking about her and Kevin's love for Christmas movies
Speaker 1: and I said, you'd be perfect in one. I like,
Speaker 1: why are you not starring in a Christmas movie? And
Speaker 1: She's like, well, I just again another overachiever. Maria always
Speaker 1: has so much on her plate. She's like, I haven't
Speaker 1: really gotten into that yet. And I always kept on
Speaker 1: in the back of my head. And then, um, after
Speaker 1: Maria's mom passed and I actually had some time to, um,
Speaker 1: sit down and write an email to her and just
Speaker 1: share with her my my sympathies. Um, she just said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know now that things are slowing down a little bit,
Speaker 1: I might be interested in Reva sitting that conversation and
Speaker 1: let me know if you and Jenna have any roles available.
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I know you're not going to
Speaker 1: take this role because you know, I thought that in
Speaker 1: my mind Maria was going to be the star of
Speaker 1: one of these movies out of the Gates. And she said,
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to do one of the you know,
Speaker 1: play your sister. And it is a it's a really
Speaker 1: great role, it's big. But we just didn't, you know, know,
Speaker 1: if you'd want to play my sister. And she said yes,
Speaker 1: and then we're off and running. And do I miss anything? Really?
Speaker 1: I'm sure I missed a ton of little important beat
Speaker 1: your better storyteller than I am. No, you got it.
Speaker 1: I mean it was funny because things, you know, always
Speaker 1: line up for a reason, I think, And so um
Speaker 1: when Ryan sent me this beautiful letter, I made a
Speaker 1: little documentary about my parents journey through COVID. Both of
Speaker 1: them got COVID at Thanksgiving time and both were in
Speaker 1: separate hospitals. It was a brutal experience. I documented the
Speaker 1: whole process and then I realized I have all this
Speaker 1: footage because I talked, meant everything, Um, let me put
Speaker 1: it together. So I put it together. It's called Mom Dad,
Speaker 1: COVID and me. It's on YouTube right now. And Ryan
Speaker 1: had seen it and send of this beautiful letter, very thoughtful,
Speaker 1: long letter about his feelings about it, and I said, wow.
Speaker 1: I actually had to read it a couple of times
Speaker 1: before I could respond because it was so kind and
Speaker 1: so thoughtful. Um. And we're going back and forth East time.
Speaker 1: He's doing this Christmas movie and boom, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I am now your best friend. Janna and Ryan's sister,
Speaker 1: and were grateful because I have wanted to get into
Speaker 1: this space. I love Christmas. We watch these movies Kevin
Speaker 1: and I every year. We have so much fun. You know,
Speaker 1: regardless of whatever is going on around us, we still
Speaker 1: try to capture that spirit and these movies really help
Speaker 1: with that. So we had been talking about this for
Speaker 1: years to you know, get together and I don't know,
Speaker 1: write something or do something. And um, it's getting very
Speaker 1: hot by the way, bring just your bathing suits, um.
Speaker 1: And and so yeah, it was just like a perfect opportunity.
Speaker 1: And what was great was I needed to be back
Speaker 1: here with my dad. My mom just passed a little
Speaker 1: over two months ago now, and it was a great
Speaker 1: way to be back here with him, getting to stay
Speaker 1: here while I'm working with you guys. And I don't
Speaker 1: even think it's work. It's literally just fun. I show
Speaker 1: up for a few hours and play with you guys,
Speaker 1: and and uh and that's that. So thank you guys
Speaker 1: for having me, because um, it was it was all
Speaker 1: meant to be. Well, Maria. I mean, you have like
Speaker 1: your energy and you're just like overall just like when
Speaker 1: you walk into a room, like you just you light
Speaker 1: up and you're just and you know, you just said
Speaker 1: that your mom. You know, we obviously know the story,
Speaker 1: but she just passed and you still walk with such
Speaker 1: like I'm just curious, like how how do you still
Speaker 1: bring that infectious energy and that happiness and like how
Speaker 1: you got there? Because it it's beautiful to see, but
Speaker 1: it's like, man, it's like I don't I I just um,
Speaker 1: I really look up to a lot of how you
Speaker 1: carry yourself. Thank you, well, now you've got me crying.
Speaker 1: Um My mom was always like that. My mom smiled
Speaker 1: through getting diagnosed, my mom smiled through surgery, my mom
Speaker 1: smiled through everything. So I feel like in this journey,
Speaker 1: watching all the different stages of life with her, I
Speaker 1: realized how so much about myself through her. And towards
Speaker 1: the end, I was like she told me, she like,
Speaker 1: if something happens to me, I want you to always
Speaker 1: keep smiling. And so I just try. It's it's natural.
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm trying. But you know, I just
Speaker 1: know we have to put one ft in front of
Speaker 1: the other and you just got to keep on going
Speaker 1: and you have to trust that everything is happening or
Speaker 1: owned you for your highest good, And this movie was
Speaker 1: from my highest good. I got to be with great
Speaker 1: people at a really difficult time, and you guys help
Speaker 1: because you guys have great spirit and great energy. You're
Speaker 1: going through so much and you're making me so impressed
Speaker 1: with how you're handling it with kids and everything, and
Speaker 1: so we all just do our best. Um. But you
Speaker 1: know you can't wallow in it. You know, that's the thing,
Speaker 1: is like life is going to happen to all of us,
Speaker 1: so you always have to keep it in perspective. There
Speaker 1: are so many people who have it worse. Um, And
Speaker 1: without negating your own feelings, because that's a problem that
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us, you know, a trap
Speaker 1: we can all fall into as well, someone else has
Speaker 1: it worse. So I don't deserve my feelings. No, we
Speaker 1: deserve our feelings. Um, But it helps to have a
Speaker 1: little perspective. Like I had my mom for sixty she
Speaker 1: was sixty six, Yes she was young, but I had
Speaker 1: her for forty three years. Some kids don't have their
Speaker 1: mom passed, you know, a young age. So we just
Speaker 1: do what we gotta do. But thank you, that's very kind.
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna say that, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't fully appreciate doing these movies until you hear
Speaker 1: stories about Um. You know, people put them on at
Speaker 1: Christmas time because Christmas can be a really Holidays can
Speaker 1: be very hard for people, and they want to turn
Speaker 1: to something with hope and you know, a little bit
Speaker 1: of laughter and lightness. And the more we do them,
Speaker 1: the more, you know, I appreciate it. But then to
Speaker 1: actually film one with both of you when you've just
Speaker 1: been through your own life challenges and are still going
Speaker 1: through them, I feel like it's even hits home more
Speaker 1: than ever about how important you know this type of experiences. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I know this Christmas we have something to
Speaker 1: look forward to, and I definitely have thought about it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh gosh, this, Chris. This might be tough
Speaker 1: because it'll be our first without her, But we have
Speaker 1: this and this will be fun and we'll laugh and
Speaker 1: we'll have a screening party and I'll make cupcakes and
Speaker 1: cocktails and make it a whole thing. So yeah, entertainment
Speaker 1: is what makes the world go around. And I remember
Speaker 1: when my mom was having surgery, brain surgery. I remember
Speaker 1: how much we needed uplifting content at that time and
Speaker 1: how much we relied on it in the hospital. And
Speaker 1: you know all the work I've done at the children's
Speaker 1: hospitals and the termin awards, you know that their life
Speaker 1: is in that room, and they're lucky if they have
Speaker 1: a view of a window to see the outside world.
Speaker 1: That is their world is just how do we survive today?
Speaker 1: And the way they survived today is by watching something
Speaker 1: like this that's gonna make them smile and forget what's
Speaker 1: going on just for that two hour period. Its beautiful. Man.
Speaker 1: It's like we're all just we all have our you know,
Speaker 1: we're all broken, we all have our struggles, we all
Speaker 1: have our are things that were you know, working on
Speaker 1: and I just I love how Maria, especially in this season,
Speaker 1: that we're both in that we're able to you know,
Speaker 1: have something like this to uplift us and to be
Speaker 1: like wow, like you know this is this is good,
Speaker 1: you know, like there's there's goodness in in some of
Speaker 1: the broken, you know, and we got to lift each other.
Speaker 1: And can I just go back real quick too that
Speaker 1: I just love that Kevin watches your husband Kevin because
Speaker 1: he's such a guy's guy. You know, he's such a dude,
Speaker 1: and I love that he's into it and I love
Speaker 1: his part. I'm not going to spoil it here, but
Speaker 1: I love his part so much in this movie and
Speaker 1: how it's evolved to what it is. Oh yeah, he's
Speaker 1: so funny. Everyone has that to look forward when like, yeah,
Speaker 1: roll Kevin's in the car, You're like, no, no, just
Speaker 1: just the one line. I'm already having a heart attack.
Speaker 1: The one line. It's like, I'm not like you. I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's this is all just a
Speaker 1: to full and it's like again kind of to the
Speaker 1: point where I was saying, it's like, you know, when
Speaker 1: you walk into your room, you were just so happy,
Speaker 1: and it's it's like everything that you've been through and
Speaker 1: you know currently what I'm dealing with. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: like you make me want to be like happier and
Speaker 1: and to just be like okay, like it's all going
Speaker 1: to be okay. And it's like and you look at
Speaker 1: and you don't know what people's inner struggles are. It's
Speaker 1: like and I don't you know, I just asked if
Speaker 1: it was okay for me to bring this up. But
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, Gigi is so funny on stories
Speaker 1: and she's hilarious, and it's like no one would know that,
Speaker 1: Like her inner story is like her dad has Alzheimer's Alzheimer's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's actually frontal temporal dementia, but Alzheimer's is like the
Speaker 1: umbrella term. So it's like, you know she's dealing with that.
Speaker 1: It's like you just never know like what people are,
Speaker 1: like are you dealing with? So it's always just like
Speaker 1: lead with love, lead with kindness, and and all it
Speaker 1: is our hard Last year was the first Christmas without
Speaker 1: dad home and being in the nursing home. We had
Speaker 1: to move them into assisted living unfortunately, but actually fortunately
Speaker 1: that we got to do that before COVID because taking
Speaker 1: care of your parents at nineteen years old, and my
Speaker 1: younger sister's um who are eighteen and fifteen, that that
Speaker 1: really really changes your perspective on a lot of things.
Speaker 1: And I actually to add some humor, unfortunately into this,
Speaker 1: I broke into the nursing home last Christmas. So so
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, Um, I have to
Speaker 1: see my dad. It's Christmas and we had been at home,
Speaker 1: and you know, my mom, bless our heart, was trying
Speaker 1: to make it like a good Christmas for all of
Speaker 1: us whatever. But also, assisted living is really really expensive,
Speaker 1: so our financial situation was not It just wasn't good.
Speaker 1: But it was a great Christmas because of how happy
Speaker 1: my mom was trying to make it and seeing her
Speaker 1: hold herself together so well and just be just embodied
Speaker 1: something so strong and beautiful was really inspiring. Um, inspiring
Speaker 1: enough to go break into my dad's nursing So I um,
Speaker 1: it was like nice, Donna, Donna, that's all. I mean.
Speaker 1: He's broken into this place a few times because we
Speaker 1: keep forgetting our key. It's so funny. I crawled around
Speaker 1: the back patio and hop the fence and then we
Speaker 1: don't tell other people whatever, So I, um, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: at the front door, and um, it's locked and it's
Speaker 1: a sliding door, so um. I tried calling them and
Speaker 1: no one answered, and then I was banging on the
Speaker 1: door and still no one came. So I just and
Speaker 1: then I saw someone sitting at the front desk and
Speaker 1: I looked at them and I was like, did you
Speaker 1: not hear me knocking? And they were like, you're not
Speaker 1: allowed in here? And I was like I don't care
Speaker 1: and they were like okay, And I was like, um,
Speaker 1: can I see my dad? And they're like no. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, can you bring him down here?
Speaker 1: And they're like no. And I was like, bring my
Speaker 1: father down here right now. And I brought him some
Speaker 1: gifts and whatever because my sisters couldn't go. They were
Speaker 1: just like whatever, you know, way too overwhelmed for the
Speaker 1: first Christmas. And you know, I gave him p JS
Speaker 1: and a bottle of wine and Dad tried to drink
Speaker 1: the entire bottle right there. It was so sweet. It
Speaker 1: was really funny. But it's just, you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of memories like that that. Yeah, it's a sad situation,
Speaker 1: but you know what, it has brought me to a
Speaker 1: place today where I'm stronger and more confident in myself
Speaker 1: than I ever have been in my life. And watching
Speaker 1: you and you Maria, um like you were wearing those
Speaker 1: cute jeans and that white crop top and you walked
Speaker 1: in and you were like, where I'm here, and like
Speaker 1: that is so inspired because you know, I didn't know
Speaker 1: your story. You didn't know mine, Janet. I think you
Speaker 1: just not totally just found out, but you know, and
Speaker 1: everyone has their own broken pieces, and you could be
Speaker 1: going through the hardest thing in your life and I
Speaker 1: could be going through the hardest thing in my life,
Speaker 1: and they're just so incomparable, you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: you're connected sale through like you know they might be
Speaker 1: they might be different, but the same, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we all come out stronger, more beautiful, and
Speaker 1: more united in the end. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: really builds great friendships between all ages. It does and
Speaker 1: g g it gives you such it's so crazy, but
Speaker 1: it gives you such a crazy advantage at such a
Speaker 1: young age to have an empathy level that you will
Speaker 1: now carry into your future with everyone around you, because
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard with you know, social media. Now
Speaker 1: everyone's just like like like like like like there's such
Speaker 1: a disconnection with feeling I think out there and I
Speaker 1: think that you know, you're going to carry yourself so
Speaker 1: much differently than maybe some of your friends, and you'll
Speaker 1: be able to keep them during this whole experience. Um.
Speaker 1: I deleted Snapchat because thinking about the time, not that
Speaker 1: I could have spent with my dad, but the time
Speaker 1: I did spend with my dad, I just wish that
Speaker 1: we didn't even have phones because I wanted to live
Speaker 1: in that moment and I could live in that one
Speaker 1: moment forever. Um. I deleted Snapchat about six months ago,
Speaker 1: and it was the best thing I ever did for myself, because, hey,
Speaker 1: you're not constantly looking into a mirror, fixing your hair,
Speaker 1: looking at your eye grows, You're like everything and putting
Speaker 1: on makeup just to snapchat someone. It's ridiculous. And now
Speaker 1: that I don't have it, when I look in the mirror,
Speaker 1: I'm like, girl, get her own podcast. I know, I
Speaker 1: love it over sure for her for her generation. Absolutely, Maria,
Speaker 1: You're you're really close with with Tony because Ryan Tony
Speaker 1: Robbins and you know, what's what's one thing that like
Speaker 1: he's really um helped you with or has inspired you
Speaker 1: or like something that you take from his from his
Speaker 1: words and his whole message. Well, I will say that
Speaker 1: when you said season earlier, it's funny, like Kevin and
Speaker 1: I kind of will crack a joke here there. We're like, whoa,
Speaker 1: We're in a real rainy season. There's like spots of
Speaker 1: sun here and there, and we are very grateful for
Speaker 1: those moments. But if I hadn't done the work with
Speaker 1: Tony before winter kind of hit in my life, I
Speaker 1: would not have been able to handle it the way
Speaker 1: I did. And so going to those seminars, reading his books,
Speaker 1: not only did I prepare myself financially with his financial books, um,
Speaker 1: but I prepared myself, you know, emotionally and mentally with
Speaker 1: tools that didn't exist before. And so you know, your
Speaker 1: thrust into kind of this world and you grab whatever
Speaker 1: you can tool wise. But you know, there's so many
Speaker 1: that we're missing from my kid that I acquired there.
Speaker 1: And the biggest one that I talked about on my
Speaker 1: show and across the board is life is happening for you,
Speaker 1: not to you, And if you can use that tool. Now,
Speaker 1: there have been moments when I hear someone's story and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't think I can figure this
Speaker 1: one out. I don't know how I apply this tool here.
Speaker 1: It it's definitely a tool. But I always say, if
Speaker 1: I could figure out how to make two brain tumors
Speaker 1: before us, not to us, then it's pretty applicable for
Speaker 1: the most part. Um. I know there are a lot
Speaker 1: of variables, but UM, that has helped me through every
Speaker 1: single moment. So I'm like, how something will hit? How
Speaker 1: is this happening for us not to us? Um? And
Speaker 1: you know, even the saddest stuff, UM, I just you know,
Speaker 1: I use that tool. And there's so many more like
Speaker 1: motion equals emotion, right, so if I'm sad, I go
Speaker 1: out and move. Um. And if UM, you know there
Speaker 1: are there are different things like that. Motion equals emotion
Speaker 1: and focus equals feeling is another really good one. So
Speaker 1: where we're focusing is what we're going to feel. So
Speaker 1: if you know that focus on something good, on something positive. Right, Again,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean denying what's going on. It means you're
Speaker 1: shifting because you're choosing. You have a choice on how
Speaker 1: you want to live. You know, it's a crazy life
Speaker 1: that we have, and I think that we have a
Speaker 1: lot more choices than we um then we remember sometimes
Speaker 1: and so you know, for me, I love learning and
Speaker 1: I love growing and that's just my my greatest quest
Speaker 1: I think in this world is to keep on learning
Speaker 1: and keep growing. And that's why I turned my podcast
Speaker 1: into a daily experience where I'm bringing in the best
Speaker 1: of the best healers and experts and gurus to help
Speaker 1: me learn more. I'm like, Okay, I want to learn
Speaker 1: as much as I humanly can. I want to apply
Speaker 1: as much of this and build these new muscles so
Speaker 1: that when life hits, I can handle it. And so far,
Speaker 1: life's hit a few times pretty hard, and I'm able
Speaker 1: to get back up. And you know, whether it's Tony's
Speaker 1: teachings or even like a movie like Rocky Rocky Balboa,
Speaker 1: it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how
Speaker 1: hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how
Speaker 1: much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how
Speaker 1: winning is done. Maria, I have an important question for you.
Speaker 1: Have you ever considered being a therapist podcast? Which is uh,
Speaker 1: if you guys listening her podcast, listen, make sure you
Speaker 1: listen to Better Together because it's a it's an incredible
Speaker 1: podcast as well, I want to say something. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of better togethers now since I started, So
Speaker 1: it's better together with Miriam and you knows I'm on
Speaker 1: Apple podcasts and YouTube and Spotify. But g G, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you something really funny. I just kind of realized
Speaker 1: that I could be one recently because my best friend
Speaker 1: who's just a couple of years behind me in this business.
Speaker 1: I will give him advice and then you know, he'll
Speaker 1: catch up to it and he'll apply it. But he
Speaker 1: has a therapist and he started to realize everything I say,
Speaker 1: the therapist says, and I go, well, I'm keeper And
Speaker 1: I was like, I actually took out of such a
Speaker 1: good complim because I was like, WHOA, all right, that
Speaker 1: means I'm leading my friend in the right ways and
Speaker 1: I'm really grateful for that. But that's because every single
Speaker 1: day on my show, you guys, I legit have the
Speaker 1: best experts in the world, and that's just becoming like
Speaker 1: through the process of osmosis. It's just in me now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, osmosis. I go back to to what G
Speaker 1: said earlier. One of the things I took away from
Speaker 1: Tony's seminar, which it's very resilient to go to and
Speaker 1: I'm glad I did. It was life changing. But it
Speaker 1: was making a list of your values in your life,
Speaker 1: like what you value and what and you just have
Speaker 1: to do it as fast as you possibly can. Who
Speaker 1: you know, who that is, what that is, And then
Speaker 1: you make a separate list. And then he stops you
Speaker 1: and makes you do a separate list of how you
Speaker 1: spend your time every day, like each day and where
Speaker 1: you put that time. And then I'll think about that
Speaker 1: all the time, and I goes back to your snapchat conversation.
Speaker 1: I got rid of like the paper because it was
Speaker 1: given me anxiety all the bad news every day. I
Speaker 1: stopped watching news period. Like I'll pick up articles and
Speaker 1: I know what's going on in the world, but I
Speaker 1: will not spend time in in. Social media can be
Speaker 1: a very difficult thing. It could be used in the
Speaker 1: way you wanted to be used, and if you're not
Speaker 1: using it in a positive way, I'll catch myself and
Speaker 1: I'll be like, why am I spending my time this
Speaker 1: way right now? Instead of you know, bettering myself, We're
Speaker 1: spending my you know, time with people I love or
Speaker 1: care about, are checking in with them and seeing, you know,
Speaker 1: and where you get something from it, you know, something
Speaker 1: where you put your energy at it and it comes back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or even Tony. The other thing Tony toattus, which is
Speaker 1: really cool for you guys too is And this one
Speaker 1: I loved is write a list of everything that gives
Speaker 1: you joy that you can access happiness at any moment
Speaker 1: for free. So a lot of us think about like, oh,
Speaker 1: if I go on this expensive vacation, I'm gonna feel happy.
Speaker 1: If I go to Disney World, I'm gonna be happy. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not always successible, and life hits like all day long,
Speaker 1: all week long, all year long. You can't be at
Speaker 1: Disney every day. So I made this list of what
Speaker 1: made me happy that was easily accessible, and I kept
Speaker 1: it on my fridge for a really long time, and
Speaker 1: it helped me so that every time I knew I
Speaker 1: was sad, I knew I could move. Movement gave me like,
Speaker 1: you know, indoor fens and stuff. I love roses, So
Speaker 1: I go walk through the neighborhood where all the old
Speaker 1: homes that of old rose bushes that still smell because
Speaker 1: new roses don't smell anymore. And then I go on
Speaker 1: the sniffing tour and I'm like the psycho in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood sniffing all my neighbor roses. Guys, she's just breaking
Speaker 1: into the nursing comes and you're breaking into the um.
Speaker 1: You know. Playing with my dogs gives me such joy
Speaker 1: watching a sunset, so I was like, okay, here are
Speaker 1: the things. And again you start to build that muscle.
Speaker 1: So when you know you're sad, you can either wallow
Speaker 1: in it. And sometimes there are certain times where I
Speaker 1: think wallowed for a little bit because you need to
Speaker 1: let it out. And then there are the times where
Speaker 1: are like, Okay, what's gonna give me joy right now? Oh,
Speaker 1: I can go do this very quickly and shift my energy.
Speaker 1: Shifting is such an important tool to be able to
Speaker 1: keep moving forward in life and keeping this sure. Well. Maria,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on, and just thank
Speaker 1: you for you know, bringing so much joy and happiness
Speaker 1: and your spirit to set because it would would not
Speaker 1: be the same without you. Um. And we'll see you
Speaker 1: in about an hour to go jump in that pool.
Speaker 1: I love you, guys. Yes, the cool of weights. I'm
Speaker 1: barbecuing burgers. We have a fresh salade from the garden
Speaker 1: way over there. Uh goodness, and so yeah, I await
Speaker 1: you all. Okay, well, we can't wait to see you.
Speaker 1: And Maria just thank you again for just um just
Speaker 1: being you and bringing your light and sharing that with
Speaker 1: all of us. Thank you for it. Free therapy and
Speaker 1: any time. Okay, bye girl. By guys, how are you doing? Hillary?
Speaker 1: I have not talked to you in a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm doing really well. How are you doing. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm on I'm on set with UH with
Speaker 1: my sister, my co star UM, and you know, we
Speaker 1: we started talking about UM just kind of like stress
Speaker 1: and UM. It's interesting because I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of people are stressing out right now about the new
Speaker 1: variant and I gotta tell you, it's been. It's been.
Speaker 1: I think I'm scared about the kids. I got an
Speaker 1: I got an email from you know it was you
Speaker 1: really starting kindergarten this year, and they were saying, like
Speaker 1: mass have to come back, and I'm just like, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I just felt this immediate like just wait.
Speaker 1: I was like no, like what, like is this is
Speaker 1: this really happening again? And like I know people are
Speaker 1: still wearing masks in some places, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: just the like Okay, I've got vaccinated. Are you vaccinated? Vaccinated? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it's like but then you know, um, I've had
Speaker 1: a friend who has been vaccinated and she got COVID
Speaker 1: and she was still really sick. So I'm like, is
Speaker 1: this just like the flu? And we should be you know,
Speaker 1: obviously maybe hopefully will be okay, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just like stressed that, like, are we gonna get
Speaker 1: locked down again? Is it going to be? You know,
Speaker 1: what's help help us? It's so hard, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's sort of just triggers this whole anxiety. So I goal,
Speaker 1: it's almost like post traumatic stress. Right. We just went
Speaker 1: through this whole thing, and then the possibility of having
Speaker 1: to do it again, it's almost impossible not to feel
Speaker 1: that way. I mean, I don't know the answer. Given
Speaker 1: that I'm not a medical doctor, it seems possible that
Speaker 1: we might have a light version of lockdown and restriction,
Speaker 1: but from a mental health standpoint, and I was thinking
Speaker 1: about having this conversation with you, and I was thinking
Speaker 1: about how I'm sure some of the edicts that you've
Speaker 1: adopted over the last months are that you sort of
Speaker 1: have to go through the tricky feelings you know, to
Speaker 1: get to the other side, and that if you try
Speaker 1: to like avoid it or minimize it or suppressed it,
Speaker 1: you get in trouble, you get like other symptoms. So
Speaker 1: I think this is another one of those things that
Speaker 1: it's okay to feel stressed about it, it's okay to
Speaker 1: feel anxious about it, and even some brief about it.
Speaker 1: That the thought that there's gonna be any limitations, especially
Speaker 1: with our kids. And I know that's not like the
Speaker 1: most fun message, but I think it's the one based
Speaker 1: in the greatest reality, Like this is this is hard. Uh.
Speaker 1: A league's friends, family members of ours are getting sick
Speaker 1: even vaccinated, And I too, I have little kids, to
Speaker 1: have a three and a six year old, and the
Speaker 1: idea of them being back in an environment where there's
Speaker 1: restrictions makes me hurt. Hurt, yeah, because like I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want that for you know, for for her.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to like, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like wear a mask. So I was just like,
Speaker 1: that's not like and I don't want them to block them,
Speaker 1: Like is that going to cause issues for her to feel?
Speaker 1: I mean, I see the issues that it's caused my son,
Speaker 1: like when he was in you know, lockdown the last year.
Speaker 1: It's like, now he's so anxious every time we leave home.
Speaker 1: So he's always at home, home, home and likes my
Speaker 1: heart because I'm like, that has to be from like,
Speaker 1: because he just felt so secure at home and now
Speaker 1: you know, we're doing things and it's like he has
Speaker 1: anxiety about it. I've been hearing this so often from
Speaker 1: families about kids feeling anxiety around social situations, leaving the home,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of interacting with other people. So normal
Speaker 1: given what we've been through, And I've been talking a
Speaker 1: lot about what to do in the phase of that,
Speaker 1: and I think it's so critical to sort of embrace
Speaker 1: our kids feelings in those moments. Of course, they're super
Speaker 1: triggering for us. We don't want our kids to feel
Speaker 1: that way. We want our kids to feel like easy
Speaker 1: and chill and resilient and like flexible, and when we
Speaker 1: see that they're not, it's super triggering for us, or like,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with them? What's wrong with me? What's going
Speaker 1: to happen? What does this mean long term? What are
Speaker 1: they going to look like in five years, ten years,
Speaker 1: twenty years, And looks like we start catastrophizing. But my
Speaker 1: big thing is to like lean into the feeling and
Speaker 1: in that kind of situation, like with Jay's, to like
Speaker 1: help him learn how to wait for like his ready feeling.
Speaker 1: And I know there's some logistics that you can't get around,
Speaker 1: like if you have to get to set, you have
Speaker 1: to get set right, you got to leave the house right.
Speaker 1: But if there's some circumstances in which there's some flexibility
Speaker 1: sort of really leaning in and being like, oh, buddy,
Speaker 1: I hear you. You're not feeling ready to leave the house.
Speaker 1: I get it. It's been so comfy, cozy being at
Speaker 1: home and it's tricky to leave the house now. Makes
Speaker 1: so much sense that you feel that way, And if
Speaker 1: you do have flexibility to sort of be like you'll
Speaker 1: you'll know when your body is ready. Why don't we
Speaker 1: wait for your ready feeling? You let me know sort
Speaker 1: of thing. The more we lean in, the more they
Speaker 1: can clean out. When we try to like talk them
Speaker 1: out o their feelings or resist resist it, um, they
Speaker 1: feel alone and scared and sort of isolated with the feeling,
Speaker 1: like why can't I just push it away? What is
Speaker 1: the big deal? We're just going to the grocery store right,
Speaker 1: and so really leaning in makes such a big difference
Speaker 1: of our kids, and I would argue shortens the like
Speaker 1: intensity and duration of the anxious state. I have a question, um,
Speaker 1: you know the way the algorithms work now when you
Speaker 1: search anything up, like you know how how effective the
Speaker 1: vaccine is or if the vaccine can hurt you or
Speaker 1: your children, it feels like every site will feed you
Speaker 1: more of those articles that may not be you know,
Speaker 1: the overall. It may be a very small statistic, but
Speaker 1: you're gonna see it all the time in your face.
Speaker 1: You know, the every article that you know somebody who
Speaker 1: got the vaccine and now you know has some sort
Speaker 1: of complication will be popping up in your feed. My
Speaker 1: question is do you give advice on how to manage that?
Speaker 1: I mean not technically speaking but on the internet side,
Speaker 1: but but how to like opt out of that and
Speaker 1: to find real information or something that can soothe your
Speaker 1: anxiety as an overall or a place to go to
Speaker 1: calm yourself. That's what makes everything feel so suffocating. It's
Speaker 1: like everywhere you go, that's the topic. That's what's posted everywhere.
Speaker 1: And I think it's good to talk about it and
Speaker 1: you know, weed out what to do and what not
Speaker 1: to do. And I think it's probably a lot of
Speaker 1: the misinformation is also probably why people aren't getting the vaccine,
Speaker 1: and this is becoming such a much bigger problem. So
Speaker 1: so I guess like, yeah, what's the to feel? Um?
Speaker 1: To feel not? So? How when you're looking at something?
Speaker 1: How do you not feel immediate anxiety just wave over you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I started to answers to that. I think like
Speaker 1: the more practical response to that is to step out
Speaker 1: of the social media context exclusively and to find more
Speaker 1: objective sources of data, like the economists or the Washington Post. Right.
Speaker 1: We really have to do that quite deliberately, you know
Speaker 1: that we're not just listening like seeing that, we're not
Speaker 1: just listening to Fox and tend to be you know,
Speaker 1: biased on one side, but really actively seeking out information
Speaker 1: like empirical studies that are out there and objective data points.
Speaker 1: It's critical and so hard to do to kind of
Speaker 1: pull ourselves from the um cycle of like Instagram, Facebook
Speaker 1: news that feels really um compelling and hard to step
Speaker 1: out of. Right, there's like a way in which it's
Speaker 1: just addictive and it's fear and consumption like they want you.
Speaker 1: The more afraid you are, the more you're gonna look,
Speaker 1: and they'll feed you as much as possible, and it
Speaker 1: increases anxiety, and it's a cycle. Like you said, that's right,
Speaker 1: So you really have to actively adopt a sense of
Speaker 1: agency that you're going to take this on yourself, which
Speaker 1: is really hard to do when you're talking about something
Speaker 1: that so such an addictive cycle. But if people are
Speaker 1: listening and thinking about it, to really like literally step
Speaker 1: away physically and make it a point, make it a
Speaker 1: mission that that like, this is my narrative, this is
Speaker 1: my journey, is my set of decisions, and like where
Speaker 1: can I seek arguably more objective data points to arm
Speaker 1: myself with information and make decisions? And how would be
Speaker 1: really deliberate about that social media piece. So there's like
Speaker 1: a way in which it feels like it's like, um,
Speaker 1: like your your favorite worst feeling, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you like digest It's like it's like it's like terrible
Speaker 1: pla ben a you can't step away kind of thing,
Speaker 1: but really forcing yourself to step away from that cycle
Speaker 1: and um, both you got that information I was talking about,
Speaker 1: but take like a respite from some from being in
Speaker 1: that environment which feels so heightened and feels so like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, there's sort of a claustrophobic field away. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's true. Um, I have so many other questions, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm ready to get on that side
Speaker 1: of it yet. Um So can I have you back
Speaker 1: on in like a few weeks? Yes, of course? Okay, perfect? Um,
Speaker 1: I thank you for for coming on and just um
Speaker 1: uh answering a few of those and um, what what's
Speaker 1: the best thing just to kind of leave people with
Speaker 1: when they're starting to feel uneasy in anything that they're
Speaker 1: dealing with, whether divorced or you know, perfect, ye, you're like.
Speaker 1: The message is always around the notion that suppression leads
Speaker 1: to pain, and so if we suppressed, ignor just miss
Speaker 1: avoid our feelings, it always sends up showing up as
Speaker 1: symptoms irritability, you know, difficult sleeping, anxiety, depression, etcetera. It
Speaker 1: will come up some other ways. So whether we're getting
Speaker 1: messages from other people to like you got this doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt you, will make you stronger, or like, you know,
Speaker 1: the idea that like you should be over you should
Speaker 1: be moving on from ourselves that like I shouldn't feel
Speaker 1: this way. It is so critical to like carve out
Speaker 1: space to allow those feelings to come up and out
Speaker 1: in a safe environment, and that might include you know,
Speaker 1: our friends or family members or professional resources like myself
Speaker 1: for sure. Well, thank you so much. I appreciate you,
Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you a weeks. Thank you all right,
Speaker 1: thank you love well, guys, I appreciate you coming on
Speaker 1: the show. Do you guys have fun? You like to
Speaker 1: tell stories? Ryan? You know so quiet? I was during this.
Speaker 1: It was actually like, you know how you like me
Speaker 1: as this version? I like you as this I was like,
Speaker 1: whatever you do? You're on with all these very strong women.
Speaker 1: Don't trying man? Explain anything? Don't trying man? Why is
Speaker 1: it a thing? Well, it's just guys like to give
Speaker 1: their opinion about everything and you But here's here's my
Speaker 1: question to that though. I just like, real quick now,
Speaker 1: I'm like, now that we're there, okay, you want to
Speaker 1: give your opinion. But also why do why do men
Speaker 1: think that we just always want to be right? Because
Speaker 1: I've gotten into a few things where women you did
Speaker 1: your right? Yeah, well we usually are right. It's right.
Speaker 1: It's ob girl, you know, are you telling me that
Speaker 1: you think that I've heard before. It's like, do you
Speaker 1: just want me to agree with you that someone says
Speaker 1: it to me? And I'm like no, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like, this is just my point of view,
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to I'm really trying not to
Speaker 1: push it on you. But this is just like I'm right, Well,
Speaker 1: we're in this whole you know, Um, we're very much
Speaker 1: more woke than we've ever been woke. Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: you know, as far as you know, the shift from
Speaker 1: the man I see, I'm not going to try and
Speaker 1: many because I don't man playing away why men, Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's just always been a thing where guys
Speaker 1: will just share their opinion and just assume they're right,
Speaker 1: because that's how it was for so many years in
Speaker 1: the history of time. You know dramatic. No, I did not.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that they would go from there, man,
Speaker 1: there books about this. Men are from Mars, women are
Speaker 1: from Venus. Like you guys are too young for that,
Speaker 1: remember that. But I remember that whole thing of like
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how men communicate differently than women.
Speaker 1: And I think it comes down to that of like
Speaker 1: you know, we're hunters are we were hunters and women
Speaker 1: were gatherers in a way, and there's probably some sort
Speaker 1: of testosterone filled I want to say what this is
Speaker 1: and move on to the next thing, and you know,
Speaker 1: I would feel like women would want to explore more
Speaker 1: of what does that mean and where we I like
Speaker 1: to understand it. That's why it's like I was talking
Speaker 1: to some I was like, help me understand that, because
Speaker 1: I just like, because it helps, and that's like my
Speaker 1: favorite is but like, you know, because I want to
Speaker 1: understand it, you know what I mean. And I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm really truly not trying to be right. I just
Speaker 1: would like to understand also your point of view. It's
Speaker 1: also like not trying to be sassy. It's just like, what, like,
Speaker 1: help me understand you. You know. It's funny because I
Speaker 1: studied communications in college and really I feel like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: of courses I took was family communication, which also applies
Speaker 1: to this. And the best listeners the only thing they
Speaker 1: do is repeat back to you what you say. So
Speaker 1: if you were to say something to me and I
Speaker 1: just repeat it back to you, then you go yeah,
Speaker 1: and you explain it more, and then you walk away going. Man,
Speaker 1: Ryan's a really good conversationalist. You know, I love talking
Speaker 1: to him. When all I did was just like, keep
Speaker 1: you talking that, Well, men don't usually do that. Men
Speaker 1: don't usually listen like that. Oh my gosh, you just
Speaker 1: admitted that men don't listen like that. You know, like
Speaker 1: that is that is something that like men usually just
Speaker 1: go Okay, I'm going to say, what's happening. Women are
Speaker 1: genuinely generally better? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely sure, just because there's yea,
Speaker 1: because there's you guys, hear layers and then just hear
Speaker 1: what's being set onions. All right, we're going to dissect
Speaker 1: this onion another day. Um. I love you guys, Thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on. Thank you for being just really a
Speaker 1: blessing in my life. I love you, And thanks for
Speaker 1: well yeah, thanks for letting me into your life and
Speaker 1: mentoring me. And I've always wanted an older sister, so
Speaker 1: that one. Thanks for choosing our project. Of course I was.
Speaker 1: I was safer to work with you and oh my god,
Speaker 1: we'd even talk about Chuck. But you're going to come
Speaker 1: back on after we do. Can I come back? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Of course? I mean this is the thing now we're
Speaker 1: taking on the road. Started tour alright, guys, um chat
Speaker 1: next week. Bye b