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Speaker 1: Welcome to week seven, in to a new edition of

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns, presented about your southern California Toyota dealers.

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Speaker 1: I'm JB along with Stu Jackson, senior writer and my

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Speaker 1: friend and Super Bowl champion DeMarco far Gentlemen, how are we?

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Speaker 2: Murray? You're looking good man? What's up?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 2: Wow? You're looking swelt.

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Speaker 1: You know, if the Rams need a ten day contract

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Speaker 1: from a running back off the street, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: that Stu doesn't have a better chance than MJD does

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Speaker 1: coming off his vacation in London.

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Speaker 2: All toss plays, all toss plays, run the pylon.

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Speaker 3: Come on, we'll see downhill outside zone p Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, decoy. All right, so let's get to the news

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Speaker 1: of the week, which unfortunately is not that great for

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Speaker 1: the Rams in terms of their competitive chances that running

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Speaker 1: back and corner. I know there's still a lot to

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Speaker 1: solve four here, Stu, but take us through it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So starting off with the running back position obviously

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Speaker 3: never good for any offense to be down their top two,

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Speaker 3: but that's what the Rams are facing right now. With

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Speaker 3: Kyron Williams, who McVeigh said it's safe to say that

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Speaker 3: he'll be out after suffering an ankle injury against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Then Ronnie Rivers who was placed on IR because the

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Speaker 3: knee injury he suffered against the Cardinals. So now that

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Speaker 3: leaves you with Zach Evans, Royce Freeman, and recently signed

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Speaker 3: Miles Gaskin on the active roster and of course someone

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Speaker 3: that Rams fans are very familiar with, and Darryl Henderson

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Speaker 3: Junior on the practice squad, and so still figuring out

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Speaker 3: exactly what that rotation and what that picture looks like

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Speaker 3: at that position. But it's definitely something that's adding a

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Speaker 3: new wrinkle, maybe an unexpected wrinkle for this week's game

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Speaker 3: plan against the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to be clearly by committee, correct,

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Speaker 2: So it doesn't really matter who starts the football game.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's no streak there, But whoever starts, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. You're going to see kerries to the next

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a shame coming off that second

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Speaker 1: especially against a Pittsburgh defense that loves to pin their

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Speaker 1: ears back and get after the passer. And so my

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Speaker 1: inclination is I'm not worried about handoff distribution. With apologies

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Speaker 1: to fantasy football players. Whoever is going to pass protect

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Speaker 1: from Matthew Stafford to me, is the one who's gonna

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Speaker 1: get the lion's share. Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: No doubt. Job number one on this football team and

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Speaker 2: on this offense is what protect Matthew Stafford. He is

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Speaker 2: your number one asset, So absolutely that is paramount. But

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Speaker 2: at some point you're gonna have to be a professional

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Speaker 2: running back and pick up some tough yards. So Royce

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Speaker 2: Freeman is a guy I like. He's the biggest back

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Speaker 2: I think the Rams have, I mean, big strong guy.

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Speaker 2: Zach Evans is a guy. We love his style. So

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Speaker 2: we all know, Daryl, at some point, some of these

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Speaker 2: that third and inches, fourth and inches, to stay in

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Speaker 2: the football game or to salt it a way. So

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Speaker 2: at some point you're gonna have to rise up and

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Speaker 1: And then meanwhile at cornerback. Some legal trouble for DERRIONN. Kendrick,

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Speaker 1: one of the Rams starting corners we have seen in

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Speaker 1: recent weeks, a couple of other reserve options get time,

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Speaker 1: including Duke Shelley, including the rooky Tray Tomlinson. So at

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Speaker 3: To Yeah, absolutely. I mean you look at especially you know,

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Speaker 3: the process of gathering information and so ultimately, you know, well,

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Speaker 3: we'll see what that looks like, probably closer to the

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Speaker 2: I have a question. When you lose a corner, I

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Speaker 2: thought the first corner would be Trey Tomlinson. Why am

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Speaker 2: but I thought that Trey Tomlinson was the guy that

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm just saying there

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Kudo's Royhie Morris, Aubrey Pleasant. They have overachieved.

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Speaker 2: Why are we shocked with RB Pleasant beck At not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, saying that relative to outside expectations, you'd be hard

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Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt. I'll say it. I say it to

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Speaker 2: a strange way of getting better when Aubrey Pleasant is around.

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Speaker 2: He is a no nonsense guy. Have you seen him

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Speaker 2: turn up in practice? It's not pretty. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: look whoever steps in there, Uh, the standard is here.

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Speaker 2: The way you play and the way you fight is here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So we're looking for clarity at a couple

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Speaker 1: Week seven against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and we'll dive into

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Speaker 1: that matchup shortly. But gentlemen, I think we have an

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Speaker 1: that is the state of the NSC playoff picture, of

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Speaker 1: which the Rams are securely a part. It's an opportunity

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Speaker 1: the Rams have earned through six and the chances they

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Speaker 1: have upcoming head to head to me are really impressive.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I mean. I think the Rams are one

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Speaker 1: it certainly has implications, But starting next week against Dallas,

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Speaker 1: we're going to find out fast where the Rams figure

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Speaker 2: You know, look, I think the Rams are starting to

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Speaker 2: peak at the right time. If I dare say peak,

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Speaker 2: I think they know who they are and what they are.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair? I think you know what sort of

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Speaker 2: and guys on defense are starting to come around Byron

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Speaker 3: The second half schedule, I'll tell you what is shaping

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Speaker 1: It helps to be coming off a week where the

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Speaker 1: and where the last two undefeated in the National Football

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Speaker 1: the Rams go to Dallas next. The Saints are on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: We'll see if the Broncos have anything left, but that

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Speaker 3: And they're also coming off of their bye week this

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Speaker 3: week by week was last week, I should clarify that.

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Speaker 3: But chance for them to self scout, and you know,

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Speaker 3: that was something that Packers head coach Matt Lafleurd talked

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Speaker 2: Like the self scout, we suck there on.

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Speaker 1: The Rams have four opponents this season coming off of

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Speaker 2: Wow, always rough man. I mean this week, I don't

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Speaker 2: think it matters. Pittsburgh coming off of bye, okay, so

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Speaker 2: matters at all. I'd rather be the team that's a

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Speaker 2: haven't had full contact. The Rams have. So I'd give

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Speaker 2: the advantage to this football team versus the one coming

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Speaker 3: Week, DeMarco, Is that something you noticed as a player

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Speaker 3: even now as far as like just the difference in

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Speaker 3: that different about their performances?

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Speaker 2: Look, it's either going to go one or two ways.

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Speaker 2: Either the team coming off the Bible will jump on

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Speaker 2: you early because they're fresh, or they can outlast you

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to show up at some point,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think it matters this week versus Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's been one of the best, though, at utilizing

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Speaker 1: that bye week. He's won six in a row with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers coming off the open weekend. Before we get

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Speaker 1: to the steel curtain there, let's go three up, three down.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are three and three. There are three of us.

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Speaker 1: What if we each pick one thing that we really

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Speaker 1: like about where the Rams are at this stage of

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Speaker 1: the season, and one thing that we think there's still

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Speaker 1: room for growth. Who wants to lead off that is

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Speaker 1: that the DeMarco boom. You're in the box?

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Speaker 2: Am I in the box?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll take the pitch. I guess I'll start

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Speaker 3: or one one thing that I like. You know, obviously,

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Speaker 2: Agreed which ball, which club do you think he throws

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Speaker 2: That's what it looked like versus Arizona. If you continue

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Speaker 1: Perfect week to be highlighting Kevin Dotson. What a move

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Speaker 2: I get better.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, all I got to say is with

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Speaker 2: The guy really shows up when he has the benefit

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Speaker 1: I'll wear them the game day. If you'll wear them.

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Speaker 1: Huge, especially against this opponent. The Pittsburgh Steelers are coming

437
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Speaker 1: off there by at three and two after five games played.

438
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Speaker 1: I'm going to propose that this is the worst offensive

439
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Speaker 1: team the Rams have played so far statistically, but that

440
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Speaker 1: this is a defense that keeps company with San Francisco

441
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Speaker 1: and Philadelphia, two of the best defensive teams the Rams

442
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Speaker 1: have played so far, especially because of their pass rush.

443
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Speaker 2: TJ. Watt is a problem. He is so sneaky, so crafty,

444
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 2: so technically sound coming off the edge eight sacks. He's great.

445
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 2: Doesn't win as much as you'd think for a guy

446
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 2: with eight sacks, but he knows when to hit it,

447
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,159
Speaker 2: he knows when to exploit. That could be him or

448
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Speaker 2: the Mike Tomlin effect. When you were talking about young

449
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 2: backs and pass protection and you're facing Pittsburgh, all that

450
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 2: is scary because he is great at crossing you up

451
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Speaker 2: and making you miss and making you make a mistake

452
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Speaker 2: in pass protection. So and the guy that's going to

453
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Speaker 2: benefit from that is probably going to be TJ. Watt.

454
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Speaker 2: So whoever is in a running back and tight end,

455
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Speaker 2: because they all factor in too stopping these edge guys

456
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Speaker 2: from getting to Matthew Stafford. You're all going to have

457
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Speaker 2: to be on your game, and last week I thought

458
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Speaker 2: they were, so let's I hope it carries over to

459
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Speaker 2: this week.

460
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Speaker 3: And let's not forget about Minka Fitzpatrick on the back

461
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Speaker 3: end for the Steelers secondary either. I mean somebody who's

462
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Speaker 3: obviously played at an All Pro and Pro Bowl level

463
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Speaker 3: in his career and will definitely be a difference maker,

464
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Speaker 3: someone who you know is usually adept at getting turnovers.

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Speaker 1: Question for you two to ponder while I send it

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Speaker 1: to Sean McVay. How many points do you think the

467
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Speaker 1: Rams will need to win in Week seven? Okay, So

468
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Speaker 1: think about that one while we get Sean mcvay's profile

469
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Speaker 1: of this Pittsburgh defense.

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Speaker 4: And they've always been such a high level operation with

471
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Speaker 4: coach tomlins leadership, you know, and it always starts up front,

472
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Speaker 4: you know, And you look at Watt and high Smith

473
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Speaker 4: off the edges. They've got excellent depth behind them. They

474
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Speaker 4: can push the pocket interior wise, and they do a

475
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Speaker 4: great job of playing hard on all three levels, and

476
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Speaker 4: they can do it in a variety of ways, and

477
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Speaker 4: a lot of times when they're creating that pressure, it's

478
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Speaker 4: just coming off of a four man rush.

479
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Speaker 2: So we've got our work cutout for us.

480
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Speaker 4: But I think it's going to be incredibly important, like

481
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Speaker 4: any week, but especially against an outfit like this, to

482
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Speaker 4: be efficient on those early downs and not get into

483
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Speaker 4: some of those situations where they can really pay their

484
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Speaker 4: years back and dictate the terms. That makes it really

485
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Speaker 4: difficult against excellent players, great schemes, and it'd be good.

486
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Speaker 2: That's what you love.

487
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Speaker 4: Our work is certainly cut out for us.

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Speaker 1: You know, DeMarco and I were talking this morning about

489
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Speaker 1: how this game is very reminiscent of another one. The

490
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Speaker 1: Rams have already played the far take it away and

491
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Speaker 1: tell us why.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm thinking how many possessions per game? Do

493
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Speaker 2: you think if it's even then there's no takeaways? Eight

494
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Speaker 2: to ten possessions per in a game. In a game, yeah,

495
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Speaker 2: if you're holding the football. So look, I think if

496
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Speaker 2: you score one touchdown per quarter, twenty eight points, I

497
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Speaker 2: think that should be more than enough to beat Pittsburgh.

498
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Speaker 2: What are they scoring a game Pittsburgh.

499
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Speaker 1: If you subtract out the non offensive it's less than

500
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Speaker 1: thirteen per games. Yeah, just their offensive production.

501
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Speaker 2: And that they're getting healthy. They're getting some guys back,

502
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: so that's going to improve, and Picket's getting better. So

503
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Speaker 2: I think if you get into the mid twenties, upper twenties,

504
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Speaker 2: you've got a great chance to beat Pittsburgh.

505
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Speaker 1: Which is similar sentiment to what to when we were

506
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Speaker 1: in since.

507
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati, same bill three.

508
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Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's different because Pickett just hasn't proven that

509
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Speaker 1: he's capable of orchestrating this offense. Everyone in Pittsburgh wants

510
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: to fire their offensive coordinator. We don't need to get

511
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Speaker 1: into that, but Burrow on one leg was kind of

512
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 1: a similar feel, where it's like, all right, the Rams

513
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Speaker 1: don't beat themselves here today. If they don't give this

514
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: Cincinnati pass rush too many opportunities to tee off and

515
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Speaker 1: to create game changing plays, you can get out of

516
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Speaker 1: here with a nineteen twenty twenty one to twenty four

517
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Speaker 1: point victory. Not saying that's the margin of victory, but

518
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Speaker 1: that's that might be all you need to win this.

519
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Speaker 3: Game, especially if the defense can play at times the

520
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Speaker 3: way we've seen it play to its potential. I think

521
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Speaker 3: twenty eight points to de Marco's point should be more

522
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Speaker 3: than enough.

523
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Speaker 2: Now, Jay Harris, I have to say that I don't

524
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Speaker 2: want to disrespect the guy. No, and we're talking about

525
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: the Steelers without mentioning yes, come out by.

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pittsburgh put together it's best game of the season.

527
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: I have a great offensive date, so if I for sure,

528
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Speaker 1: but their profile is such that that's not how they win.

529
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Speaker 1: They win by getting you out in the deep waters,

530
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Speaker 1: tempting you to drop back to seven and pass, and

531
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Speaker 1: then absolutely hoping that they can drown you before that,

532
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Speaker 1: before you drown them. You look at their wins, three

533
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: wins by a total of sixteen points. They've had three

534
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Speaker 1: or more takeaways in each of those wins. They've had

535
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Speaker 1: four or more sacks in each of those wins, two

536
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Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns, and a block punt for a safety.

537
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Speaker 2: That's Steeler Bowl. That is Steeler football in a nutshell

538
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: right there. I mean, going back to the seventies. That

539
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 2: is Steeler football. Feels like a lot of the games

540
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: I've watched, And so.

541
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Speaker 1: When I look at their defensive profile, they've had a

542
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: lot of trouble with some opposing receivers that've been leaky

543
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: against the run. You know they're missing Cam Hayward, their

544
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: best interior run stuffer. But this feels like a trap.

545
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: In fact, I told DeMarco because he's a Star Wars guy,

546
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: this feels like an Admiral Acbar game. Right It's a track.

547
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: Because you're down your top two running backs. You see

548
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: some vulnerabilities there. You feel like you really put it

549
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: together in your pass protection. The Rams had a great

550
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: game in pass protection against the Cardinals. But these are

551
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: not the Cardinals, Hi Smith and Watt. They are not

552
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, with all due respect. So it's going

553
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: to be fascinating in me see how the Rams manage

554
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Speaker 1: this in terms of their game.

555
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Speaker 2: I'm with you, and I just like the fact that

556
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: the Rams book ends when you've got Jackson playing the

557
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: way he's playing and his confidence is really really high

558
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: and through the roof. And Rob Havenstein, who was a

559
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: runaway beer truck last week. Wasn't that fun watching him

560
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: leading the offense down the field king people.

561
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Speaker 1: Over this given this, Yeah, it's the Andrew.

562
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: Run the balls and run the balls. I like seeing that.

563
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: So I mean, look, I think they're playing their best

564
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: ball and I think they are ready. They are as

565
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: ready as they're ever going to be to face a

566
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 2: challenge like this. But you've got to be consistent in

567
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 2: the run game to keep those guys off balance. If

568
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: they tee off on you, you've got issues.

569
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Speaker 1: How about the former Steelers in this game, We've already

570
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: touched on dots and having a great year at Kella.

571
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Speaker 1: Witherspoon also where would the Rams be Probably not at

572
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Speaker 1: three and three without his efforts.

573
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

574
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, He's been such a calm and stabilizing presence in

575
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Speaker 3: the secondary. Something I wrote about last week and again

576
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Speaker 3: for something that maybe a move externally that maybe went

577
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Speaker 3: under the radar, perhaps because of the timing it was

578
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: late June when Akello signed with the Rams. It turned

579
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Speaker 3: into like as maybe even greater return on their investment

580
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: than the Rams maybe originally thought they were getting with him,

581
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Speaker 3: just with his leadership, The way he's been able to

582
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: calm a very young and energetic secondary at times when

583
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: they've gotten too high, or even bring them back up

584
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Speaker 3: if they've gotten too low. You know, there have been

585
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: ways in both tangible and intangible. I feel like where

586
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: he's made it a measurable impact on this group.

587
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Speaker 2: Does he remind you of Marcus Peters in some ways

588
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: where he kind of gets lost on the field and

589
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he crosses right in front and

590
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: picks one off or almost picks one.

591
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Speaker 1: Off, lost or baiting the quarterback and has on his

592
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Speaker 1: arm to go get something.

593
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Speaker 2: It's insane.

594
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: Out of pick six last week, you think.

595
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 2: He's not there and then all of a sudden he's

596
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: in position to make a big play. So yeah, tremendous

597
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: pick up. And I'm glad you said calm because I

598
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: can't hear the guy. I don't think i've ever heard

599
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: him speak. Really, I've heard the other guy a lot.

600
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Speaker 2: I haven't heard this guy at all.

601
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we had we had him miked up for

602
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Speaker 3: the last game, and at first I wasn't sure if

603
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Speaker 3: I should, you know, politely protest that decision to not

604
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I realize how little this guy talks

605
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 3: on the field except when he needs to, right, But

606
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: I think it's still turned out great.

607
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Speaker 1: But he's gonna have some big matchups this week too.

608
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Speaker 1: Because here's another way where Pittsburgh reminds me of Cincinnati.

609
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: It's not just because of from the same division, but

610
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Speaker 1: they got some duwes on the outside, especially if their

611
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: pro bowler Johnson comes back off of injured reserve. Like

612
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Speaker 1: you pointed out, all right, should we get to a

613
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Speaker 1: key to victory or to take your pick, who wants

614
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Speaker 1: to lead.

615
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: Off, I'll go for it. Take advantage of the Steelers

616
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Speaker 3: run defense. You mentioned the absence of Cam Hayward. He's

617
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: been on an ir because of groin surgery. The Steelers

618
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: run defense has really missed his presence upfront. I think

619
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Speaker 3: they enter Week seven allowing the fourth most rushing yards

620
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Speaker 3: per game. Again, not necessarily reflective of the entirety of

621
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Speaker 3: the talent that is on that unit, but it's something

622
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Speaker 3: they have had difficulty with so far this season. And

623
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Speaker 3: so no matter what that rotation looks like, or that

624
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Speaker 3: that collection of running backs, whoever you have out there,

625
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: they better be efficient with their carries because otherwise it

626
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Speaker 3: could be a long day, especially when you're trying to

627
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 3: up against high Smith and Watt on the edges there.

628
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Speaker 2: What if Zach Evans goes for one fifty. I mean,

629
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, are you leaning into the rocket? I'm

630
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: just saying what happens? I mean, look you seeing the

631
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 2: way this kid runs. We're a big fan of his style.

632
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: If he glances off a few one on one tackles

633
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: and he's off to the races, he gets those knees up,

634
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: you got issues.

635
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Speaker 1: And we're not trying to devalue the running back position

636
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: anymore than the sport already has. But this could be

637
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: the quintessential case of it's about the guys in front.

638
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: The five plus Higbee the receivers inserting in the running game. Yeah,

639
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: as opposed to who's actually taking the handoff? Am I wrong?

640
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: Oh?

641
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: No doubt? What was that show? Two and a half men?

642
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: It's not the actor, it's the show. Yeah, it's the

643
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: reason we love the show, not just you.

644
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: So you're just saying it's going to take two and

645
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: a half men to around the foot?

646
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Speaker 2: Oh? No, five? Got my committee missed the dunk. I

647
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: like it. I hope we don't have the same one.

648
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: My mine is basically simple. You outlined it. Pittsburgh and

649
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: that defense. They're tremendous at getting after the quarterback, but

650
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: they are living off takeaways. So protect the football, don't

651
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: turn it over like you said. Did you say it

652
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Speaker 2: on this show or the other one? If you end

653
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Speaker 2: every drive and a kick, that's great. Yeah? Did I

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Speaker 2: steal yours? Did I still? Okay? Go ahead? Go ahead?

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Speaker 2: My bad. No, I didn't mean to steal it.

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Speaker 1: You're doing great wars. I'll just pay off the sponsor

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Speaker 1: at the end.

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Speaker 2: No, go ahead, But it's the same thing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: just be smart with the ball. And Matthew Stafford included. Look,

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Speaker 2: I love the way he plays and I love a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's super aggressive. But if it's not there, if they've

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Speaker 2: got you dead to rights, take the sack, throw it

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Speaker 2: to the sidelines, live to fight another day. The last

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Speaker 2: thing you want to do is feed them with takeaways

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Speaker 2: because that will fuel everything that Mike Tomlin says, and

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Speaker 2: they'll start to believe they can beat you.

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Speaker 1: I'll pivot to how about tamping down explosives, Like I

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Speaker 1: think if this is a game where Piket has to

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Speaker 1: string together eight, ten, twelve play drives, the Steelers have

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Speaker 1: yet to rush for a touchdown this season. They're the

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Speaker 1: worst red zone offense in the National Football League. So

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for another key to this one, it's

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Speaker 1: how do you finish drives? Right? I want to say

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Speaker 1: finish every drive with a kick, Yeah, a field goal,

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Speaker 1: and I stole that for but I'll say finish drives

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Speaker 1: with seven not three. Love it because if the Rams

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Speaker 1: are getting seven, I don't think Pickett and this offense

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Speaker 1: has demonstrated the ability yet to keep up all right,

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Speaker 1: anything else before we go.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad this game is here and not Pittsburgh because

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Speaker 2: coming off of bye, then that thing I think it

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Speaker 2: will matter more. They got to come across the country.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit different, but like you said, this

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Speaker 2: is your house. So I love the terrible towel, but

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Speaker 2: I love to see it stop spinning slowly and in

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Speaker 2: the pocket and then left on the chair after they

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Speaker 2: lose or.

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Speaker 1: It fits in your carry on luggage.

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Speaker 2: Perfect. Let's do that, all right.

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Speaker 1: For DeMarco far and Stud Jackson, I'm JB. Long Week

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Speaker 1: seven at SOFI Stadium coming your way. Hope you can

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Speaker 1: join us in person. The Pittsburgh Steelers and the three

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Speaker 1: and three Los Angeles Rams. As always, Between the Horns

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Speaker 1: is presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers. Thanks