Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Beccat Tilly and Tanya red An iHeartRadio Podcast. Hello,
Speaker 1: we are scrubbing in Becca, We are sons beccat Tilly.
Speaker 1: Today she is out on vacation enjoying her girlfriend's birthday.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Hailey, Kiyoko. But we have a special treat
Speaker 1: for you today because one of my very best friends
Speaker 1: is co hosting today. Please welcome Paully that Chart. Hi,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. So if you don't know Paulina,
Speaker 1: she is one of my best friends. And she's also
Speaker 1: the product developer at Tower twenty eight, which mark is
Speaker 1: a makeup brand. Thank you very much. Yes, in case
Speaker 1: you didn't know, it's a very huge, wildly popular makeup job.
Speaker 1: Yet well, there's a lot of fans in the room.
Speaker 1: Easton's wife, Alison's obsessed with Jia, Hannah's obsessed with so Ospray,
Speaker 1: so fun fans in the room. And I do want
Speaker 1: to get into that because a lot of people really
Speaker 1: want to know about working with Tarra twenty eight because
Speaker 1: you were with them from the beginning and now it's
Speaker 1: such like a massive makeup brand, so they want to
Speaker 1: really hear, Like the the nitty story story but I
Speaker 1: feel like we should start with getting to know you first. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Where can we start? I mean, we
Speaker 1: can go all the way back. What we should start.
Speaker 1: How we met, how we met, Let's do that. Let's
Speaker 1: do that. We met what eight years ago? No, I
Speaker 1: think more at this morning. Yeah, at least eight. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We were at my sister and i's first ever radio
Speaker 1: Disney Music Awards. Yes, and we are sorry. Her sister
Speaker 1: is Sophia Carson, so you probably see the three of
Speaker 1: us together. That's her sister. Yes, and people always ask
Speaker 1: me she is my blood sister. We just have different
Speaker 1: last names because she has a stage name, but we
Speaker 1: are blood sisters. Yeah. We were at our first awards show,
Speaker 1: Disney Music Awards. Yes, and we had a mutual friend Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was like, you're seeing rad She is great.
Speaker 1: You're gonna love her. Become friends. Yeah, And we just
Speaker 1: spent the entire show together dancing and shamming out, dancing
Speaker 1: to every single song. We had the greatest time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the rest is kind of history. You and
Speaker 1: I started boxing together, yeah, because we realized we kind
Speaker 1: of lived on like the same side of side of town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the west side of the West Side. Uh, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: we started boxing class, like we would start working out together,
Speaker 1: and then we would like work out and like have
Speaker 1: dinner together and like all that kind of stuff, and
Speaker 1: then it just, yeah, the rest is history. We became family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we literally became like family was clo oh oh. It's
Speaker 1: a different relationship, different relationship. It is a very different
Speaker 1: relationship because Paulina and I are very similar. Like Paulina
Speaker 1: understands me, and it's a kind of same with Becca too, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Becca doesn't get me the way Paulina gets me because
Speaker 1: we're both cancers, so we have like the same type
Speaker 1: of emotional response to thing. And Sophia is is doesn't
Speaker 1: get us in that way. She We're just very different.
Speaker 1: And I think T and I are very similar in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Like you just they were both cancer,
Speaker 1: were both sensitive, and we just always understood each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And but Sophia and T are just just as close.
Speaker 1: It's just a different, yeah, different relationship. But I did
Speaker 1: want to ask you about because I ask people for other,
Speaker 1: you know, questions that they wanted and they want to
Speaker 1: know how you and Sophia because you guys are so
Speaker 1: close and I think a lot of people were like,
Speaker 1: how do you maintain such a close relationship, you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny and I Sophia and I weren't always close,
Speaker 1: which I think shocks a lot of people. I am
Speaker 1: the baby of the family and I'm her younger sister,
Speaker 1: and I always found her very annoying. I did. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, she's my annoying older sister.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, because she's also like
Speaker 1: and she's like, she's like, yeah, we're very different. Um.
Speaker 1: And but we always we were. We always got along,
Speaker 1: but we weren't close. And you're kind of like the rebel.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more, you know more I should
Speaker 1: the beat of my own drum. Yeah. Um. And essentially,
Speaker 1: she was going to college and I was like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, she's leaving. And I had this like moment
Speaker 1: of like, no, you can't go anywhere, and it just
Speaker 1: like clicked. And then she left her college and I
Speaker 1: came to LA to visit her and never left. Never.
Speaker 1: I never left. Literally, I finished high school and I
Speaker 1: came to LA and we are attached at the hip,
Speaker 1: literally attached to that. And I mean, to be fair,
Speaker 1: like we're like every other sister. We get into arguments.
Speaker 1: You know, we're not perfect and what you see on
Speaker 1: Instagram is a total highlight reel. But we really are
Speaker 1: that close. You know, we are that close. We are
Speaker 1: best friends. We love and adore each other, and we
Speaker 1: are just each other's biggest supporters. And I think we
Speaker 1: stay close. I think because we both have our own things,
Speaker 1: Like we both have our own things in life. We're
Speaker 1: both on our own path, we have our separate careers,
Speaker 1: and we just support each other through everything, and we
Speaker 1: probably it's true, Like it's really cute, like obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: when Sophia has her red carpets or you know, anything
Speaker 1: anything like a music video or album come out, you know,
Speaker 1: like Paulina is organizing the party, the first one there,
Speaker 1: and vice versa, if anything happens, if she has like
Speaker 1: a Tower twenty eight event, and they have like a
Speaker 1: new product launch, like Sophia is the first one there
Speaker 1: wearing the merge, like they're both always as are you,
Speaker 1: by the way, thank you? Like she is one of
Speaker 1: the most supportive friends, more people in my life apart
Speaker 1: from my sister and my family. It's tea sounds like
Speaker 1: she's part of the family. She totally is. I mean,
Speaker 1: she looks more like my mother than my sister and
Speaker 1: I do. There's just sure their mom is like blonde
Speaker 1: hair like I have. My Mom's saying face I she'll
Speaker 1: love that I said that, but you like esthetically, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like my mom. What's the age difference with
Speaker 1: you and your sister? Two years and four months? Okay,
Speaker 1: so I say my daughters are in a similar place.
Speaker 1: They're three years, but it's a similar situation. One's leaving
Speaker 1: for college in about a year and so the other
Speaker 1: one's having a hard time with that, and it'd be
Speaker 1: scary and all that stuff. It's so crazy how it happened.
Speaker 1: Was your thing growing up? I assume hers was singing
Speaker 1: and dancing? What was yours? Sports? Sports and products, makeup products,
Speaker 1: skincare totally, and I do think that considering her career.
Speaker 1: I love that I have such a separate career to hers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's like the comparison is a lot less because
Speaker 1: of that. Um, I was in volleyball and gymnastics competitively
Speaker 1: glowing up. I loved it, and the gymnastics it is brutal. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got to the point where I was like, either
Speaker 1: I go for it or I have to stop doing it.
Speaker 1: And I didn't see myself doing it the rest of
Speaker 1: my life, so I stopped. But I was always that
Speaker 1: little girl in my mom's bathroom putting on all her
Speaker 1: makeup and all her skincare. I just honestly didn't know
Speaker 1: that my career now was a career. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: just when you think of makeup, you think of makeup artist,
Speaker 1: when you think of the brand, but not the people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but not like the people behind it. But then, how
Speaker 1: do you do that? Because my young it's also very
Speaker 1: into makeup. How does a person who loves makeup, who's
Speaker 1: growing up in their teens or twenties right now, how
Speaker 1: do they turn it into a career. Well, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you my story is how my kind of journey happened.
Speaker 1: I got my bachelors at Lamu Alayla Marie Amount here
Speaker 1: in La and then I went to Fidham, which is
Speaker 1: in downtown. I got like a Master of Specialization program
Speaker 1: specifically in product development and marketing in the beauty industry,
Speaker 1: and it was an intensive program. One year. I loved
Speaker 1: every minute of it. And Amy Amy Leu, the founder
Speaker 1: of Tower twenty eight just so happened to be a
Speaker 1: guest speaker in one of my classes, and this is
Speaker 1: pre Tower twenty eight and I met her in class
Speaker 1: and she presented the brand to the class and it
Speaker 1: wasn't even called Tower twenty eight. Was called Tribe like
Speaker 1: a Tribe of Women because her goal was to create
Speaker 1: a tribe of women behind this brand. And I instantly
Speaker 1: knew I had to work for her. I was like,
Speaker 1: I we are so aligned in what we believe in
Speaker 1: this brand. I just knew it could be something really special.
Speaker 1: I walked out of class. I called my mom and
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I just met my future boss.
Speaker 1: Like I want to work for this woman. I will
Speaker 1: do anything. I will get her coffee and I DM
Speaker 1: tr on Instagram. She never saw it because Tower twenty
Speaker 1: eight wasn't really a thing. The day I met her,
Speaker 1: she had just finished raising money for the brand, so
Speaker 1: it was like very very very earn in stages. I
Speaker 1: ended up finding her email from someone else. I got
Speaker 1: her email. We met up and I was her first
Speaker 1: intern and I ended that session with her with a
Speaker 1: bag of products and she was like, take it home,
Speaker 1: get back to me, and I was like, okay. I
Speaker 1: was like twenty one years old, very green, still in
Speaker 1: college technically, and then a few months later I was
Speaker 1: her first full time employee and I've been here ever since.
Speaker 1: Now how many employees does twenty eight? You know? I
Speaker 1: think we're still really small. We have, but it's not two. No, no, no.
Speaker 1: So it was me Amy and my coworker Jess, who
Speaker 1: you've met Jess. I love her. She has a special
Speaker 1: place in my heart. Um, it was a three of
Speaker 1: us for the first three years doing it all. We
Speaker 1: were many different hats and right actually a new girl
Speaker 1: just started this morning. I just we just introduced with
Speaker 1: the team. Um, we're ten, we're still but I mean
Speaker 1: for where we are, we're still really small. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. It's crazy to you know, create something
Speaker 1: from the ground up and what an education. But every
Speaker 1: part of the business, yeah, every single part of it.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm honestly so grateful for it because it's been
Speaker 1: the biggest like it's been the biggest honor of my life,
Speaker 1: honestly to be a part of this and just see
Speaker 1: it from the ground up. And you know, you took
Speaker 1: a chance. I took a chance on Amy, I took
Speaker 1: a chance on this startup that we were creating, and
Speaker 1: to see what it is now, it's such a pinch
Speaker 1: meet moment. Yeah, it's like in every like celebrity artist kit,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's everywhere. It's there's billboards everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so it's so crazy, honestly to see something huge
Speaker 1: display at Sephora. Yeah, we just launched our own gondolas
Speaker 1: at Sephora, which is a really huge deal. Um, it's
Speaker 1: crazy and just to see even when I walked in,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's like, oh, I love the product. Like
Speaker 1: it's so surreal that people relate to it so much
Speaker 1: and they genuinely love the products we do. Thank you,
Speaker 1: And will you have your own line one day? Will I? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's always been my end goal, but I
Speaker 1: don't know anymore. I'm figuring it out. I would love to.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have my own brand, whether
Speaker 1: that's makeup or something else. But I have loved every
Speaker 1: single moment of Town or twenty eight. It's been. I'm
Speaker 1: coming up on five years, and I wouldn't change the thing.
Speaker 1: Like when she says she had her hand and everything
Speaker 1: like this girl, I honestly like she and I joke
Speaker 1: because like we literally the two of us out of
Speaker 1: all of our friends, I feel like are always just
Speaker 1: at work always. It's not a nine to five, it's
Speaker 1: a twenty four to seven. Yeah. But you like you
Speaker 1: did everything, like you did the social media, your brand development,
Speaker 1: you were I don't even know that. Yeah. So the
Speaker 1: first the first few years, it was Amy, Jess and I.
Speaker 1: So we you know, three people creating an entire brand,
Speaker 1: you do it all. My main things were always products,
Speaker 1: So I developed all the products, social media, influence and
Speaker 1: events and photoshoots. And then you know, as we got bigger,
Speaker 1: you hire more people and you let things go. But
Speaker 1: my two biggest things were always the products. I mean
Speaker 1: I developed all the products. Obviously, you know, we've had
Speaker 1: a few consultants and people on the team. It's obviously
Speaker 1: not just me. It's a team effort um and social
Speaker 1: media I've your recently let go of so now I'm
Speaker 1: like just purely focused on developing all the products, which
Speaker 1: is hard. Though it's hard to let go oh it's yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I Mean one of the biggest things I've had to
Speaker 1: learn is like embracing change. I you know, don't like change. No,
Speaker 1: we do not like change chancers like their routine act.
Speaker 1: I can't hate it, and I've just kind of I
Speaker 1: had to. I mean, it's in a startup, you have
Speaker 1: to pivot every single day, and I've just learned to
Speaker 1: embrace the changes. But I it's been so fun. It's
Speaker 1: been really crazy watching you go through the whole thing,
Speaker 1: because yeah, it was like she started out with there's
Speaker 1: three of them doing all. It's just so wild and
Speaker 1: to see like what it's grown into and you've just
Speaker 1: been so passionate about it every step of the way.
Speaker 1: So I'm very proud of you, and you've been the
Speaker 1: biggest supporters. Like I'd say we're ninety percent of My
Speaker 1: face is Tower twenty eight. That's I mean same because
Speaker 1: I like that they're clean, you know, like that's doesn't
Speaker 1: know it's a clean, non toxic beauty brand. And the
Speaker 1: founder Amy just her story really quickly. She's had exit
Speaker 1: in her whole life and she wanted to create a
Speaker 1: brand that was safer sensitive skin, but that was still cool, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't crazy expensive. Yeah, So we're really affordable,
Speaker 1: we're extremely clean, We abide by the National exem Association,
Speaker 1: and we're the only brand that does that, so we're
Speaker 1: a non list of ingredients we can't use to create products.
Speaker 1: Is probably the biggest and most brands because we just
Speaker 1: breaks just very clean. We're very careful, such a clean
Speaker 1: girl las days. So just right up right up my alley. Um,
Speaker 1: I do want to also get into other things. I
Speaker 1: feel like we should take a quick break and come back.
Speaker 1: Look at you, thank you so much. You know what,
Speaker 1: Becca gone. I feel like I really have to like
Speaker 1: pull it together, so we'll be right back. Okay. So
Speaker 1: I facetimed Paulina yesterday because just spoiler alert, my weekend
Speaker 1: was spent bleeding. I was on my period all weekend
Speaker 1: and I was eating a lot of red meat and
Speaker 1: just so bloated and uncomfortable. So I didn't really didn't
Speaker 1: do it ton um this weekend. But I facetimed her
Speaker 1: yesterday to go over something about the podcast, and I
Speaker 1: could hear in the background that she was listening to
Speaker 1: the last episode of Scrubbing In to like Prepare, which
Speaker 1: I thought was really cute. To be clear, I am
Speaker 1: a huge fan of scrubbing scrubbing in yes, I mean
Speaker 1: of you, but of scrubbing in yeah, yeah, And I listened,
Speaker 1: but I was like, so much pressure, I gotta listen
Speaker 1: to all the episodes, and I was listening to the
Speaker 1: hay Babe of Hailey taking that go to church. What
Speaker 1: I thought was so special. Yeah, ye, a very emotional. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we forgot me. I know, we don't tend to get
Speaker 1: a super emotional on this podcast. We like to keep
Speaker 1: it fun and lighthearted. Yeah, totally. That one really threw
Speaker 1: us all. I'm sure. So before you came in today,
Speaker 1: Mark asked me a question. I said, You're gonna ask
Speaker 1: Pauline of this. I'm always fascinated by the dating lives
Speaker 1: of young singles, and so what is your current status?
Speaker 1: My current I'm single. By the way, you have a
Speaker 1: great voice. I just want you really do great radio voice. Rasp.
Speaker 1: I've never I've never been told that. Thank you. It's good.
Speaker 1: It really works, it does anyway, thank you. Um. So
Speaker 1: you're dating, you're single? I am single? You are dating.
Speaker 1: I'm not. No, yeah, trying to pretend like you're dating.
Speaker 1: I have not you on any apps. No. Wow, I
Speaker 1: don't believe in them. Okay, sorry, that's a that's a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't not believe in them. I just don't think
Speaker 1: that it's for me obviously works. It obviously works, but
Speaker 1: I don't think it's for me. Have you done them
Speaker 1: before and had a bad experiencer? Uh huh, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: one guy. Okay, sounds like it's a bad guy. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it was a horrible year ago. You gotta weed through it.
Speaker 1: The numbers games. It seems like that's built into the
Speaker 1: app experience I did. I did the Rya Raya whatever
Speaker 1: it's called. Years ago. It's like six years ago, pre
Speaker 1: my past relationship. And I went on one date and
Speaker 1: this guy we had mutual friends, so it felt safe
Speaker 1: to me. What a disaster of a date. I left
Speaker 1: and I was like, never again. What was so wrong?
Speaker 1: He as a person? He you know, he the first
Speaker 1: of all was kind of catfish to be first, kind
Speaker 1: of catfish, but that's okay. And then his photos nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing like polar. I was very confused. It took me
Speaker 1: a second to find him because I was like, that's
Speaker 1: not that much um. Dinner was actually going really well,
Speaker 1: and then he had like one drink and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden he was just talking so much crap about
Speaker 1: his mom and then went into like women belong in
Speaker 1: the kitchen and like saying this like verbatim, and I
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way people like you still exist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he just went on and we got into a
Speaker 1: full on fight because it's you know me, I'm like
Speaker 1: the opposite of that, and Raya for professionals too, like
Speaker 1: the aren't people aren't women? Yeah, and apparently the men
Speaker 1: on there are supposed to also be that. And it
Speaker 1: just didn't. It just clearly did not work out. I
Speaker 1: didn't have a great I didn't have a great experience
Speaker 1: with Raya either. I honestly I haven't given them. Did
Speaker 1: you find celebrities? I did? Oh, I don't want to out.
Speaker 1: You didn't go out with him? No, I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just swiped. I saw a lot of athletes on there. No,
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of like you saw Matthew Perry.
Speaker 1: She saw Josh Groban and athletes and athletes. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: a lot of soccer players from across the pond. Who
Speaker 1: was like Tyler Posey Oh yeah yeah yeah, actually like matched.
Speaker 1: I mean nothing, I never spoke, right, um, I reefly
Speaker 1: remember Joe Jonas being on it that jack pot, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. It could have been a fake account, but
Speaker 1: I remember this real account. Obviously before it'd been like
Speaker 1: very pre Sophie, many many years, many many, many many years.
Speaker 1: Did you swipe right on Joe Jonas? I didn't really, No,
Speaker 1: why not? It seems like everyone that would be an automatic,
Speaker 1: right girl? I don't. I don't. I you know, I
Speaker 1: would rather not dat a celebrity. It's fair, is that?
Speaker 1: Because you've seen celebrity up close? And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I also think that that life is a very um
Speaker 1: particular kind of lifestyle. Yeah, And I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's for me. I'm not opposed to it. If it happened,
Speaker 1: it happens, but I would that's interesting rather a lawyer,
Speaker 1: a doctor, you know, because we see it up close
Speaker 1: with Seacrest too, and Seacrest is kind of at an
Speaker 1: extreme level of fat and that I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: Obviously there are many advantages to that, but there's some
Speaker 1: pretty big disadvantages. Yeah. And I'm not saying that every
Speaker 1: celebrity is bad. I mean no, but you don't even
Speaker 1: say there. It's just like it's just not for me.
Speaker 1: And yeah, again, if it happens, great, well, because you're right,
Speaker 1: you be on the cover of every Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: crash gossip site, and I live tinos a really private life.
Speaker 1: I know. It's so crazy when I posted that she
Speaker 1: was going to co host, like, I'm like, she's one
Speaker 1: of my best friends, so I don't, you know, think anything,
Speaker 1: and all these questions are like so basic, like I
Speaker 1: know anything about you, and I like, wow, I forget
Speaker 1: how private you are, Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I know people think that because I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: my sister's that's my sister is my sister, and I'm
Speaker 1: friends with you, and you know, I'm like in that world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but me, Pauline, I'm not in that world dude, what
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like in it, like yeah, it's the
Speaker 1: best way to be totally. I love mine. Because I
Speaker 1: didn't want a job. I didn't want to talk about
Speaker 1: the Oscars. Oh so fun, that's a big one, I know,
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about how it was watching
Speaker 1: your sister like on the I mean, honesty, it was
Speaker 1: one of the more surreal moments, at least in her career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's done, as you know, a lot of incredible life
Speaker 1: changing things. But that day in particular, my grandmother and
Speaker 1: my whole family flew in from Columbia and I was
Speaker 1: sitting in the audience next to my grandmother watching my
Speaker 1: sister on the Oscar stage, and it was just so
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of her. I'm proud of her every day,
Speaker 1: but that moment in particular was very very very very special,
Speaker 1: and just to live it with my grandmother next to me,
Speaker 1: and she walked the carpet with my sister, and so
Speaker 1: the whole day was like out of a movie. Honestly.
Speaker 1: It was so cool. And she, you know, Sophie has
Speaker 1: worked really hard to get to where she is and yeah,
Speaker 1: that girl works hard, Yeah, day in and day out.
Speaker 1: And she's always been that way. She's been working towards
Speaker 1: this her whole life. So if anyone deserves it, it's her.
Speaker 1: And to see her on that stage at the Oscars
Speaker 1: is like incredible. Yeah. We went out to dinner to
Speaker 1: celebrate after and not after the Oscars, like I think
Speaker 1: we got after her. And I was asking her because
Speaker 1: to me, the Vanity Fair after party is just like
Speaker 1: it's such a such a thing name yeah, and so
Speaker 1: I want you to like share, just like what was
Speaker 1: in there? What the line of the biggest thing? And
Speaker 1: I told you at dinner I it is a most
Speaker 1: humbling experience for any celebrity. And I don't say it's
Speaker 1: been a bad way. I just thought it was so
Speaker 1: funny because they don't allow and please don't quote me
Speaker 1: on this, but for my understanding, they don't allow agents
Speaker 1: or pr to go with ye that's known. So so
Speaker 1: you know celebrities, they just get dropped off and you
Speaker 1: have your ticket and your name in your hand, and
Speaker 1: you make an hour long line for a picture. And
Speaker 1: we're in line and there's Austin Butler in front of us,
Speaker 1: Billie Eilish, the entire White Lotus cast behind us, and
Speaker 1: they're all just making this line. It's so wild, you know,
Speaker 1: like at home' that's so crazy. I loved John and
Speaker 1: I was like, what are we doing here? Like this
Speaker 1: was so wild, and the party's beautiful, like and everyone
Speaker 1: was so happy to be there and it's such a
Speaker 1: cool night. But I just found it so funny because
Speaker 1: you at home. You see the pictures, Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: see the line out the door. You're kind of in
Speaker 1: some in some of the photos when they're like in
Speaker 1: that that very first spot. Yeah, I see, but it's
Speaker 1: like that line out the door. Wow. Yeah, it's so funny.
Speaker 1: And I'm so jealous that you saw Joe Jonas and Sophie.
Speaker 1: I know, it was so good to see those. Those
Speaker 1: are peeps. I know they're so sweet. We always have
Speaker 1: so much fun with them, much fun with them. Aren't
Speaker 1: seen Sophie Turner in I think since pre prod I
Speaker 1: know we were talking like she has two kids now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, Sophie, Yeah, last time I just saw
Speaker 1: you were like newly married and they have two beautiful girls.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? So crazy? Time just flies, lilies flies,
Speaker 1: so crazy. But it was such a fun night and
Speaker 1: they had in and out just on trees. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: so good. Sounds so good right now, you know that
Speaker 1: time of the mouth. In case you haven't heard, we
Speaker 1: have no idea, no, but you have been listening to
Speaker 1: the podcast and you are aware of the Maid of
Speaker 1: Honor to Bacle. Oh I sure am. Yeah. I've had
Speaker 1: a discussion with that guy about it too. I told Becca,
Speaker 1: I go, it's kind of offensive that you don't want
Speaker 1: it so badly, do you know what I mean? Like Becca,
Speaker 1: like Pauline has a better fit. Bye. To be clear,
Speaker 1: I will fight for it and Becca everyway jingle. Van.
Speaker 1: I was like, um, I heard the little competition going
Speaker 1: on it. She was like, if you want it, you
Speaker 1: can have it. I was just like, no, I want
Speaker 1: to fight for it. I don't want to fight for it,
Speaker 1: but I am willing to go for it. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll find out in time, we will move Well, do
Speaker 1: you want to make a pitch for why you'd be
Speaker 1: the best maid of honor right now? Sure? I think
Speaker 1: first things first, I understand you better than anyone that's
Speaker 1: and you just said more than Becca. That's it's a
Speaker 1: different level. It's a different level. It's a different understanding.
Speaker 1: Very organized, that's true, very on top of it. Point
Speaker 1: for Paulina, I will make sure you have the greatest
Speaker 1: Bachelor I party. You know. It's very funny though you
Speaker 1: and Ecca, like Becca gets things done, but she's so stressy,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's such in a disorganized way, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like she'll get it done and
Speaker 1: it'll be awesome, but she'll save it to the last minute,
Speaker 1: and like it's very stressy energy, and you're more like
Speaker 1: I'll get it all done beforehand and I'll have like
Speaker 1: an itinerary. Yeah I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, like less
Speaker 1: stressy energy, you know, but like both equally amazing. Oh totally.
Speaker 1: I have no doubt she'll be great, But I think
Speaker 1: I would just be a little better. You know what,
Speaker 1: We'll just do it together. Oh yeah, yeah, cod cod
Speaker 1: co Yeah yeah. Just don't put me in a matching
Speaker 1: dress with anyone. No, I think I'd already decided that
Speaker 1: I'm not doing matching dresses. I'm gonna pick a color
Speaker 1: and just let everybody go around. Thing great. It's like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like none of those dresses a look good on the
Speaker 1: never flattering. They're never flattering. No one dress looks good
Speaker 1: on every everyone. And it's like, I'm past that phase
Speaker 1: of my life where I need every photo to look
Speaker 1: the same, you know what I mean. I don't need
Speaker 1: my bridesmaid. I can, you know, embrace your differences. Have
Speaker 1: one strap, have a tube toop or do your thing
Speaker 1: be totally covered. We're a spaghetti strap. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want, Yeah, whatever you want, whatever you feel
Speaker 1: best in, got it. Switching gears from my wedding not
Speaker 1: even it's not even switching gears. Um. I did want
Speaker 1: to just touch on this before we move on to
Speaker 1: our hot topics, because I got a lot of questions
Speaker 1: from people who are not necessarily in the makeup industry,
Speaker 1: but they're like wanting to start their own business, you know,
Speaker 1: and are inspired by what you do with Tower twenty eight.
Speaker 1: So if you could give them any words of a
Speaker 1: wisdom or advice, what would you share? I think my
Speaker 1: advice and I have a few different things, um and
Speaker 1: I think this goes for anyone. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: just in the beauty industry. I think the first thing
Speaker 1: is work really hard, like, don't you know, work for
Speaker 1: the job you want, not though when you have kind
Speaker 1: of a thing like really give whatever phase or in
Speaker 1: your career, give it everything you have. Just go for
Speaker 1: it with passion and intention and heart. You'll get there.
Speaker 1: Be nice. I think every industry feels really big. They're
Speaker 1: really small, ye, both the entertainment industry, the beauty industry,
Speaker 1: any industry, they're really small. Just be nice to everyone.
Speaker 1: You never know if you're going to run into this
Speaker 1: person ten years down the line. Embrace change. I know
Speaker 1: that's hard one for us, but you need to learn
Speaker 1: how to embrace everything because you especially in a startup
Speaker 1: in any company. Things change daily all the time, and
Speaker 1: you need to just learn to embrace it. And in
Speaker 1: my experience that I've obviously had to in the hard
Speaker 1: way and it's been like a lesson for me. But
Speaker 1: through some of the bigger changes in my career have
Speaker 1: come the greatest moments. So I just learned to embrace
Speaker 1: that and pivot when needed, and honestly have fun, have
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I think there's work, will always
Speaker 1: be work, but you can always find the fun and
Speaker 1: the good and the stress and the good and the
Speaker 1: bad day, and just work really hard and get your
Speaker 1: foot in the door anyway you can, and just work
Speaker 1: your way up and be really really grateful. Yeah, I think,
Speaker 1: just be grateful for wherever you are in your career,
Speaker 1: whether you're an intern or you got the promotion, or
Speaker 1: you're just at any point, just be grateful for where
Speaker 1: you are and where that will take you. Good, good, Paulina,
Speaker 1: thank you. We're gonna get into some hot topics. Mark
Speaker 1: had a really good transition, so I want to let
Speaker 1: him thank you very much. She really transition the segue
Speaker 1: that I was working so hard on. I noticed that Amy,
Speaker 1: the founder of Tower twenty eight, was featured recently at
Speaker 1: goop dot com speaking of Coop Gwyneth Paltrow. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: thank you're the guy. Thank you very much, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. She was of course found, uh Gwynescent. She's Gwennescent.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I were you watching this case? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I could not stop watching it on TikTok, adding it
Speaker 1: was addicting. And so, in case you don't know much
Speaker 1: about it, Gwyneth Paltrow was being sued by this man
Speaker 1: named Terry Sanderson. He said that Gwyneth skied into him,
Speaker 1: and she's saying that he skied into her. So it's
Speaker 1: like kind of a he said, she said, but she
Speaker 1: so he sued her for what was it? Marko was
Speaker 1: like three million, three million. They knocked it down to
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand. But he's saying his life was forever changed.
Speaker 1: She skied into him, and now we can't think straight.
Speaker 1: Three hundred thousand to Gwyneth Paltrow is like three dollars
Speaker 1: to us. And so the fact that she didn't just
Speaker 1: settle this case and spent so much money, I'm sure
Speaker 1: on like legal fees, I knew she must have been
Speaker 1: telling the truth. She wanted to make a point. So
Speaker 1: it was very entertaining to watch this all go down.
Speaker 1: But she didn't win the case, so she won a
Speaker 1: dollar and her pride a dollar. A dollar. I mean,
Speaker 1: that whole thing was just when she left, after she
Speaker 1: once she whispered in his ear, she said, I wish
Speaker 1: you well, classy, good classy. So that was an end
Speaker 1: to something that I was really interested in. And then also,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, but Kelsey Ballerini
Speaker 1: and Chase Stokes made their red carpet debut at the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three CMT Awards. I'm so invested in this, Okay,
Speaker 1: but did were you reading the comments? Because a lot
Speaker 1: of people are like, it's too soon, they shouldn't be
Speaker 1: doing a red carpet together, it's too fresh. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's a thing to each their own. I'm down for it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I was dating this hottie, I would
Speaker 1: take him to any time. Honestly, I was never like
Speaker 1: the biggest Kelsey Ballerini fan, but not not a fan
Speaker 1: just like right, you didn't really know much about I
Speaker 1: didn't know too much about her. I am a huge fan.
Speaker 1: I know, so invested. I saw the whole interview with
Speaker 1: Alex Cooper. I'm in it, yeah, and I'm happy for her.
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think she was like, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm so happy she too. I'm so happy she's doing
Speaker 1: I'm dating this little hottie from they seem happy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And even if they're happy for a minute, who greats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she seemed to be really unhappy for a long time.
Speaker 1: So I'm happy for her. I know me too. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm very much into this, like Kelsey Ballerini era, that's happening,
Speaker 1: the same her whole EP album. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was. Sorry, epp. Oh my god, really good on repeat?
Speaker 1: Pet House Oh yeah, so good, She's so good, so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really living for her a moment right now, you too.
Speaker 1: Mark's like, who's going okay, okay, fine? Fair Oh. I
Speaker 1: did also want to update the scrubbers. I have some
Speaker 1: bad news. Is there a sound effect for that works?
Speaker 1: That works? Yeah? You already know it though. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: Camilla Oh Luddington was supposed to join us this week
Speaker 1: in the o R and we will be songs Camilla
Speaker 1: this week, but she is going to reschedule, so it's
Speaker 1: not she's not not coming in she's just rescheduling. We're
Speaker 1: sure she's going to reschedule because yes, and I made
Speaker 1: a point to ask. She did cancel all the press
Speaker 1: that she had surrounding this as well, so it was
Speaker 1: like an actual legit reason, not just like I don't
Speaker 1: want to see this girl again. But I was listening
Speaker 1: back to the episode and it was so crazy because
Speaker 1: it was from April of twenty nineteen, and I'm the
Speaker 1: first thing we opened the mice and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: met my future husband today. I'm like, who who are
Speaker 1: they talking about? And it was Zachary Levi. I can't Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that phase. I remember that phase very well.
Speaker 1: But I was like excited to get to fill her
Speaker 1: in on your current where we're at. Yeah, because all
Speaker 1: of her friends, she had friends that listen to the
Speaker 1: podcast and they were saying that they like to listen
Speaker 1: because beck and I are so bad at dating and
Speaker 1: like the stories are really funny, and so I was
Speaker 1: excited to tell her that, like we're in committed relationships now, yeah,
Speaker 1: both of you. I know, serious ones, serious ones. So
Speaker 1: but I just want to because I did like put
Speaker 1: in the Facebook group and stuff, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: let everybody know that she was going to reschedule. Um,
Speaker 1: so hopefully she we'll get her soon. We don't know when.
Speaker 1: That very comfortable, the indefinite reschedule. Yeah, me too, But
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you just got to embrace change, the change,
Speaker 1: guys thing. Something better will come from it, Something better
Speaker 1: will come from it. Yeah, yes, correct, Because Becca is
Speaker 1: not here today, so maybe Becca will be back and
Speaker 1: she can actually meet Camilla. Actually, yeah, so maybe it
Speaker 1: was all meant to be like that. Yeah, Um, okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come back.
Speaker 1: Do you want to do you have some advice to give? Sure?
Speaker 1: All right, well we have some emails. Oh let's do
Speaker 1: it with some questions. So we'll do that one. Get
Speaker 1: back and we're back with emails. Casey says. My mother
Speaker 1: in law loves her grand baby, maybe too much. My
Speaker 1: husband and I live far away from both of our families.
Speaker 1: We both work, we have friends. We really enjoyed a
Speaker 1: spending time with a little family when we come home.
Speaker 1: Not to mention, we're pretty busy raising our small human.
Speaker 1: Our hospitality was after the first few months of our
Speaker 1: baby's life, and my husband and I asked our families
Speaker 1: to limit their visits to quarterly and we try to
Speaker 1: only face time a couple of times a week. Both
Speaker 1: sets of grandparents get plenty of photos of our adorable child,
Speaker 1: but with every bit of content or call, there are
Speaker 1: comments about missing her so much, your actual tears, that
Speaker 1: my baby is growing up and I'm not there. Before this,
Speaker 1: my mother in law and I had a great relationship,
Speaker 1: but now I feel like she's acting like a parent
Speaker 1: who's being deprived of custody. Give it to me straight.
Speaker 1: Are these boundaries that we have set unreasonable? Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: do you have take? I mean, I think I don't
Speaker 1: have kids, so it's hard for me to comment on
Speaker 1: this one. But I don't think boundaries should be respected. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if that's what you feel like you have to
Speaker 1: do for your family, then I think it should be respected.
Speaker 1: But I think that the grandparents want to seem like it.
Speaker 1: I think it's okay. Yeah, I mean, nobody hears the thing.
Speaker 1: Nobody's in the wrong. There's no right or wrong when
Speaker 1: it comes this kind of stuff, because obviously it comes
Speaker 1: from a place of love. Everybody just like loves your
Speaker 1: kid and wants to see your kid. Um, But I
Speaker 1: do think boundaries are so super super important, and I
Speaker 1: think you can only give so much and if it
Speaker 1: was draining you, then you have to set those boundaries.
Speaker 1: And I think to like, you know, with the little
Speaker 1: guilt trips, I think that that just like happens with
Speaker 1: totally parents, Like everybody deals with it with their parents
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, And I think it's
Speaker 1: just like a generational thing. So I wouldn't really like, um,
Speaker 1: get bogged down by the many little guilt trips that
Speaker 1: she says, like it's okay, she's gonna say it. Just
Speaker 1: let it kind of like fly off your back, um.
Speaker 1: And to your point, it's off out of the place
Speaker 1: of adoring your child. Yeah, So you know, yeah, change
Speaker 1: your change your perspective a little bit on it, maybe
Speaker 1: up them, maybe up the photos a little bit, fatime
Speaker 1: the facetimes. Um. But I think you gotta do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do to be the best parenting. I agree.
Speaker 1: I don't at this at all. I have kids and
Speaker 1: we live far away from the grandparents. There is no
Speaker 1: unreasonable here. It's you and your kids. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you decided to cut them off completely, I'm sure
Speaker 1: there'd be a reason to do that you wouldn't just
Speaker 1: do it, you know, haphazardly. I think you're fine here.
Speaker 1: I think you've done absolutely the right thing. You've got
Speaker 1: us at boundaries are they're they're all the time, and
Speaker 1: you're hosting all the time, and you can't be hosting
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, because oh I'm no trouble. No,
Speaker 1: please stop it. I'm nothing. No, no one's nothing that's
Speaker 1: staying in your home. They have to be attended to.
Speaker 1: So I think you're fine. Quarterly is generous as far
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. It's four times a year. That's it.
Speaker 1: Way more than my parents came and saw our kids.
Speaker 1: It's fine. They're lucky to have quarterly facetimes. You're good. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't let her get to here. Don't let her get
Speaker 1: to you. You heard Mark Casey Anonymous. Those are years
Speaker 1: that juicy. I like this guy a lot. I've known
Speaker 1: him about seven years. We were co workers, and then
Speaker 1: I got another job, but we kept in touch his friends,
Speaker 1: and then in twenty two, which would be last year,
Speaker 1: he reached out and we reconnected. We went to the
Speaker 1: movies with his god daughter, and then again with that
Speaker 1: goddaughter's mom, that who was his best friend. Okay, so
Speaker 1: he's best friends with a woman and they went out
Speaker 1: with the goddaughter. The mom and I hit it off
Speaker 1: right away. Now, the three of us were in a
Speaker 1: group chat. We message every day. We're on our thirties,
Speaker 1: she's marriage, she has four kids. We all go to
Speaker 1: the movies and hang out quite often. For like five
Speaker 1: months now, he and I still have our private chat
Speaker 1: and we message every night from nine pm until four am.
Speaker 1: We even knew Amazon Prime movie watch parties at night together.
Speaker 1: But when he suggests doing something or I suggest a
Speaker 1: movie or dinner, he always wants to include the other
Speaker 1: best friend. Am I only the best friend? Now? Too?
Speaker 1: Do I not have a chance to be his girlfriend?
Speaker 1: I thought, because he was messaging me for so many
Speaker 1: hours every day, that he had feelings for me. I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, I'm baffled by this one. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I haven't I needed more context? Like have they held hands?
Speaker 1: Held hand? Physical? Yeah? I mean I think in general
Speaker 1: there are no guy girl friendships. Don't know if I
Speaker 1: believe that one, but I don't. But I do think
Speaker 1: that if you've been talking for this long every single day,
Speaker 1: he might just not be that into you. In that way. Oh,
Speaker 1: I have a theory. No, she's married, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: The other is she not happy? That's my theory is
Speaker 1: that these two one excuses to hang out together. The
Speaker 1: godmother is telling her husband, Oh, it's fine because Anonymous
Speaker 1: is going to be there. I agree, right, Meg, She's
Speaker 1: th wheel. Anonymous is the third wheel, so that those
Speaker 1: two to hang out, they just hang out. It's weird
Speaker 1: to the other husband, Yeah, like why is she always
Speaker 1: included in the three of them? But having said that,
Speaker 1: why are they texting dming whatever? From watching seven hours
Speaker 1: every night? No guy's doing that without feelings. I'm so no, agreed,
Speaker 1: But he won't message her during the day apparently, but
Speaker 1: then also want to take her out by himself, by herself.
Speaker 1: If you're texting someone at two in the morning every night,
Speaker 1: you liked them, and isn't it going to get sexual
Speaker 1: at some point? Right? I'm trying to think if I
Speaker 1: ever had this with somebody in the answer is no,
Speaker 1: because you're in bed. I didn't either. You're in your
Speaker 1: own separate beds, but you're texting each other. It seems
Speaker 1: to me like it's going to get sexual at some point.
Speaker 1: And if it hasn't, maybe that's a sign. But if
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know any guy who's texting with a
Speaker 1: girl for seven hours a night that doesn't have feelings
Speaker 1: for her, well, yeah, I just I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I just feel like he must not be like her enough,
Speaker 1: or he might not be into women. Oh oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, yeah that's that's actually that's valid, thank you.
Speaker 1: I think the issue here is him out yeah, what
Speaker 1: he wants. And by the way, why can't you say
Speaker 1: to him, is there any chance we can go see
Speaker 1: a movie just the two of us about so I
Speaker 1: am tina have this direct? Why not just be direct?
Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am um. You can always
Speaker 1: agree on this. I like the guy to come forward,
Speaker 1: and I think it should be more of the guy
Speaker 1: than the girl the beginning especially, But at this point,
Speaker 1: just ask him. Yeah, there's no The worst that could
Speaker 1: happen is he says no, I asked out many men
Speaker 1: in my day. You sure did. Sure, I was witnessed
Speaker 1: to a few of them. This isn't even a tough one.
Speaker 1: They're already making plans to do something. So if he says, hey,
Speaker 1: I'll talk to so and so, just say, you know
Speaker 1: what you know what. Let's Yeah, I don't, it's too top.
Speaker 1: That'll impress him to what's a two top like table
Speaker 1: for two? Oh? Oh, got it, got it? Got it?
Speaker 1: Got him on the same side. Yeah, on the same side.
Speaker 1: So that's our advice. He's gay, or he has feelings
Speaker 1: for the other one man, or or he's just not
Speaker 1: that into her unfortunately, So why not just say something
Speaker 1: to him and then you'll have your just stop wasting
Speaker 1: your time. Yeah, move on and find someone else to
Speaker 1: give this much a t. If she needs the closure,
Speaker 1: just ask him. Yeah, he'll he'll tell you. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: have to accept the closure that you don't receive. But no,
Speaker 1: but I know what you're saying. Anything like that, and
Speaker 1: it's really good. I know the exact quote you're saying.
Speaker 1: It's not that one. But accept the apology that you
Speaker 1: don't receive it. No, no, no, yes, it's something like
Speaker 1: that combining too, I think. But I get it's like
Speaker 1: if even if you don't get the closure you need, No,
Speaker 1: sometimes closure is accepting the apology you didn't get. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, there we go, that's what I
Speaker 1: got there, I got there. Just took a minute. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes the disrespect is all the closure you need. Oh exactly.
Speaker 1: You know what. That's a great one. It's a good one.
Speaker 1: Write that down. Yeah, because if you don't have respect,
Speaker 1: you got anything, You got nothing. No, no, move on,
Speaker 1: move on on, boye bye. Before we say bye bye
Speaker 1: to you, I'm so sad and I wanted to end.
Speaker 1: I know. It's fun, right, so fun, so fun, go
Speaker 1: on vacation more often. I do think she has a couple. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, guys, I'm available. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of I'll make the time. But before you go,
Speaker 1: I wanted to hit just a couple of the questions
Speaker 1: that we did get a lot to it. It was
Speaker 1: what's your hardest part about your job, the best part
Speaker 1: about your job, and your favorite product. Hardest part about
Speaker 1: my job, I would say, is which is equally the
Speaker 1: most exciting for me, is the amount of pressure I feel.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure in developing products for Tower
Speaker 1: twenty eight, for a company that is now knock on
Speaker 1: Wood very successful. There's a lot of pressure comes with that,
Speaker 1: with creating something that the vast majority of people will like.
Speaker 1: But it's also very exciting. I love of that part
Speaker 1: of my job of a launch day and seeing people
Speaker 1: are seeing in their reviews and the press, and it's
Speaker 1: my favorite and also the hardest part is that pressure. Um.
Speaker 1: The best part I think is my team. The team
Speaker 1: at Tower twenty eight shot him out. Alex Live, Jess, Rosalie, Aaron, Danny, Amy,
Speaker 1: of course, the founder, Victor and Alicia and oh my god,
Speaker 1: I hope I don't forget anyone. I think that's everyone, okay,
Speaker 1: and your favorite product, my favorite product. I think it's
Speaker 1: not out yet. Oh what a team. It comes out
Speaker 1: this fall and it is. I have it on right now.
Speaker 1: I've been It's incredible. It has been my dream to
Speaker 1: create a leather jacket. Um no, it's every day I
Speaker 1: wear my Sunny Days Foundation and my Tower twenty eight mascara.
Speaker 1: I usually use the brands, you know, as eyeshadow. I
Speaker 1: did not today. Um, and then I always have a
Speaker 1: lip jelly on. I love you. Those are like my staples.
Speaker 1: A question, what is tower? What is the significance of
Speaker 1: the name Tower twenty eight. It is an actual lifeguard
Speaker 1: tower in Santa Monica. Oh and it is where Amy,
Speaker 1: the founder and her friends. I would say meet me
Speaker 1: at Tower twenty eight and they would meet up there
Speaker 1: and it's you know, Santa Monica is on a beach.
Speaker 1: Everyone's included, you see, diversity. So that was the reason
Speaker 1: behind the name. I spent a lot of time at
Speaker 1: Sephora in front of the lake, you know thing at
Speaker 1: the end of the aisle, staring at it. My wife
Speaker 1: picks it out, the font, the colors. If I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm at the beach, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: Something like branding. The branding is so good. Yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you guys. Um My wife's a big fan. She to
Speaker 1: send her product. Yeah, she wants me to ask. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no preservatives in them, is the very natural thing.
Speaker 1: There are preservatives, but not the toxic preservatives. Okay, so
Speaker 1: there is we have in all of our products. We
Speaker 1: have a preservative system that is all clean. How long
Speaker 1: but it works? How long did they last on it?
Speaker 1: Every product is very different, okay, So there is a
Speaker 1: PAO on every product. It's period after opening and some
Speaker 1: of it is six months, some of it is twelve months,
Speaker 1: some of it is eighteen months. It just depends on
Speaker 1: the product, all right. And creams will always last less
Speaker 1: than like a powder for example. That's good enough. Thank you.
Speaker 1: That was the question she wanted me to ask. Of course,
Speaker 1: great question. Thank you, Alison, Yeah, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time to be here.
Speaker 1: Busy girly so I love this. I love you more
Speaker 1: and we'll talk soon. I'll be back. If anybody wants
Speaker 1: to follow you, where can they follow you? Um Instagram, Instagram,
Speaker 1: at Bow the Chat p A U D A C
Speaker 1: h A R or at Tower twenty a beauty I'm
Speaker 1: there as well. There you go. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you. Bye.