WEBVTT - Sayonara, Raya with Paulina Char 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:09.640 Scrubbing In with Beccat Tilly and Tanya red An iHeartRadio Podcast. Hello, 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:14.240 we are scrubbing in Becca, We are sons beccat Tilly. 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:18.280 Today she is out on vacation enjoying her girlfriend's birthday. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:22.800 Happy birthday, Hailey, Kiyoko. But we have a special treat 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.360 for you today because one of my very best friends 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:31.400 is co hosting today. Please welcome Paully that Chart. Hi, 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.320 thank you for having me. So if you don't know Paulina, 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.600 she is one of my best friends. And she's also 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.080 the product developer at Tower twenty eight, which mark is 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.800 a makeup brand. Thank you very much. Yes, in case 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:51.480 you didn't know, it's a very huge, wildly popular makeup job. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.760 Yet well, there's a lot of fans in the room. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:58.960 Easton's wife, Alison's obsessed with Jia, Hannah's obsessed with so Ospray, 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:04.040 so fun fans in the room. And I do want 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.919 to get into that because a lot of people really 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.920 want to know about working with Tarra twenty eight because 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.600 you were with them from the beginning and now it's 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.280 such like a massive makeup brand, so they want to 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:19.080 really hear, Like the the nitty story story but I 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:24.000 feel like we should start with getting to know you first. Okay, 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.880 let's do it. Where can we start? I mean, we 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.720 can go all the way back. What we should start. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.640 How we met, how we met, Let's do that. Let's 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.319 do that. We met what eight years ago? No, I 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:39.080 think more at this morning. Yeah, at least eight. Yeah. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.240 We were at my sister and i's first ever radio 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.160 Disney Music Awards. Yes, and we are sorry. Her sister 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.720 is Sophia Carson, so you probably see the three of 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.680 us together. That's her sister. Yes, and people always ask 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.400 me she is my blood sister. We just have different 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.200 last names because she has a stage name, but we 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.200 are blood sisters. Yeah. We were at our first awards show, 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:06.720 Disney Music Awards. Yes, and we had a mutual friend Yeah, 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.280 and he was like, you're seeing rad She is great. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.920 You're gonna love her. Become friends. Yeah, And we just 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:17.160 spent the entire show together dancing and shamming out, dancing 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.680 to every single song. We had the greatest time. Yeah, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.080 and then the rest is kind of history. You and 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.840 I started boxing together, yeah, because we realized we kind 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.359 of lived on like the same side of side of town. Yeah, 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.960 the west side of the West Side. Uh, and so yeah, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.560 we started boxing class, like we would start working out together, 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.840 and then we would like work out and like have 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.080 dinner together and like all that kind of stuff, and 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:44.280 then it just, yeah, the rest is history. We became family. Yeah, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:53.519 we literally became like family was clo oh oh. It's 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.120 a different relationship, different relationship. It is a very different 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:03.280 relationship because Paulina and I are very similar. Like Paulina 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.320 understands me, and it's a kind of same with Becca too, Like, yeah, 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.720 Becca doesn't get me the way Paulina gets me because 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.200 we're both cancers, so we have like the same type 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:17.520 of emotional response to thing. And Sophia is is doesn't 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.520 get us in that way. She We're just very different. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.840 And I think T and I are very similar in 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.600 a lot of ways. Like you just they were both cancer, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.639 were both sensitive, and we just always understood each other. Yeah, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.320 And but Sophia and T are just just as close. 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:37.200 It's just a different, yeah, different relationship. But I did 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.000 want to ask you about because I ask people for other, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.120 you know, questions that they wanted and they want to 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.120 know how you and Sophia because you guys are so 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:45.640 close and I think a lot of people were like, 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.760 how do you maintain such a close relationship, you know, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.800 it's funny and I Sophia and I weren't always close, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.560 which I think shocks a lot of people. I am 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.200 the baby of the family and I'm her younger sister, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.680 and I always found her very annoying. I did. I 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.240 was like, I was like, she's my annoying older sister. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.200 And then all of a sudden, because she's also like 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:11.200 and she's like, she's like, yeah, we're very different. Um. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.520 And but we always we were. We always got along, 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.880 but we weren't close. And you're kind of like the rebel. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.920 I'm a little bit more, you know more I should 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.760 the beat of my own drum. Yeah. Um. And essentially, 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.120 she was going to college and I was like, wait 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.400 a minute, she's leaving. And I had this like moment 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.600 of like, no, you can't go anywhere, and it just 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.400 like clicked. And then she left her college and I 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.520 came to LA to visit her and never left. Never. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.080 I never left. Literally, I finished high school and I 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.240 came to LA and we are attached at the hip, 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.599 literally attached to that. And I mean, to be fair, 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.839 like we're like every other sister. We get into arguments. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.599 You know, we're not perfect and what you see on 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.279 Instagram is a total highlight reel. But we really are 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.640 that close. You know, we are that close. We are 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.320 best friends. We love and adore each other, and we 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.680 are just each other's biggest supporters. And I think we 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.200 stay close. I think because we both have our own things, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:12.599 Like we both have our own things in life. We're 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.520 both on our own path, we have our separate careers, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.360 and we just support each other through everything, and we 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.240 probably it's true, Like it's really cute, like obviously, you know, 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:26.720 when Sophia has her red carpets or you know, anything 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:30.039 anything like a music video or album come out, you know, 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.680 like Paulina is organizing the party, the first one there, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:35.960 and vice versa, if anything happens, if she has like 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.599 a Tower twenty eight event, and they have like a 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.240 new product launch, like Sophia is the first one there 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.360 wearing the merge, like they're both always as are you, 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.120 by the way, thank you? Like she is one of 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.599 the most supportive friends, more people in my life apart 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.800 from my sister and my family. It's tea sounds like 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.000 she's part of the family. She totally is. I mean, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.039 she looks more like my mother than my sister and 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:01.919 I do. There's just sure their mom is like blonde 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:05.960 hair like I have. My Mom's saying face I she'll 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:10.640 love that I said that, but you like esthetically, Yeah, 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.200 it's just like my mom. What's the age difference with 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.600 you and your sister? Two years and four months? Okay, 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.400 so I say my daughters are in a similar place. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.479 They're three years, but it's a similar situation. One's leaving 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.280 for college in about a year and so the other 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.120 one's having a hard time with that, and it'd be 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.599 scary and all that stuff. It's so crazy how it happened. 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.200 Was your thing growing up? I assume hers was singing 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:34.680 and dancing? What was yours? Sports? Sports and products, makeup products, 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:40.360 skincare totally, and I do think that considering her career. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.880 I love that I have such a separate career to hers. Yeah, 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.960 and there's like the comparison is a lot less because 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:52.159 of that. Um, I was in volleyball and gymnastics competitively 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:57.479 glowing up. I loved it, and the gymnastics it is brutal. Yeah. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.000 I got to the point where I was like, either 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.720 I go for it or I have to stop doing it. 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.719 And I didn't see myself doing it the rest of 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.600 my life, so I stopped. But I was always that 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.600 little girl in my mom's bathroom putting on all her 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.160 makeup and all her skincare. I just honestly didn't know 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:18.400 that my career now was a career. I didn't. I 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.840 just when you think of makeup, you think of makeup artist, 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.720 when you think of the brand, but not the people. Yeah, 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.040 but not like the people behind it. But then, how 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.840 do you do that? Because my young it's also very 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.160 into makeup. How does a person who loves makeup, who's 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:32.880 growing up in their teens or twenties right now, how 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.800 do they turn it into a career. Well, I'll tell 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.560 you my story is how my kind of journey happened. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.640 I got my bachelors at Lamu Alayla Marie Amount here 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.680 in La and then I went to Fidham, which is 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.560 in downtown. I got like a Master of Specialization program 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:51.360 specifically in product development and marketing in the beauty industry, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.440 and it was an intensive program. One year. I loved 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.680 every minute of it. And Amy Amy Leu, the founder 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.400 of Tower twenty eight just so happened to be a 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.720 guest speaker in one of my classes, and this is 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:09.360 pre Tower twenty eight and I met her in class 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.960 and she presented the brand to the class and it 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.560 wasn't even called Tower twenty eight. Was called Tribe like 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.760 a Tribe of Women because her goal was to create 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:22.360 a tribe of women behind this brand. And I instantly 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.760 knew I had to work for her. I was like, 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.520 I we are so aligned in what we believe in 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.240 this brand. I just knew it could be something really special. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:33.920 I walked out of class. I called my mom and 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.600 I was like, I think I just met my future boss. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.920 Like I want to work for this woman. I will 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:43.000 do anything. I will get her coffee and I DM 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.280 tr on Instagram. She never saw it because Tower twenty 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.800 eight wasn't really a thing. The day I met her, 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.000 she had just finished raising money for the brand, so 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.840 it was like very very very earn in stages. I 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.120 ended up finding her email from someone else. I got 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.720 her email. We met up and I was her first 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:05.560 intern and I ended that session with her with a 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.560 bag of products and she was like, take it home, 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.679 get back to me, and I was like, okay. I 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.600 was like twenty one years old, very green, still in 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.120 college technically, and then a few months later I was 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.800 her first full time employee and I've been here ever since. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.680 Now how many employees does twenty eight? You know? I 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:28.280 think we're still really small. We have, but it's not two. No, no, no. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.080 So it was me Amy and my coworker Jess, who 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.760 you've met Jess. I love her. She has a special 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.040 place in my heart. Um, it was a three of 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:40.640 us for the first three years doing it all. We 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.680 were many different hats and right actually a new girl 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.079 just started this morning. I just we just introduced with 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:52.000 the team. Um, we're ten, we're still but I mean 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.880 for where we are, we're still really small. Yeah, and 0:09:55.920 --> 0:10:00.240 it's it's crazy. It's crazy to you know, create something 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.840 from the ground up and what an education. But every 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.840 part of the business, yeah, every single part of it. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:12.120 I'm I'm honestly so grateful for it because it's been 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.560 the biggest like it's been the biggest honor of my life, 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.400 honestly to be a part of this and just see 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.760 it from the ground up. And you know, you took 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.240 a chance. I took a chance on Amy, I took 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.320 a chance on this startup that we were creating, and 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.680 to see what it is now, it's such a pinch 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:34.440 meet moment. Yeah, it's like in every like celebrity artist kit, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.040 you know, so it's everywhere. It's there's billboards everywhere. Yeah, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.960 it's so it's so crazy, honestly to see something huge 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:46.480 display at Sephora. Yeah, we just launched our own gondolas 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.880 at Sephora, which is a really huge deal. Um, it's 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.600 crazy and just to see even when I walked in, 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.200 you know, everyone's like, oh, I love the product. Like 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:57.240 it's so surreal that people relate to it so much 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.440 and they genuinely love the products we do. Thank you, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.560 And will you have your own line one day? Will I? Yeah, 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.880 you know, it's always been my end goal, but I 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.680 don't know anymore. I'm figuring it out. I would love to. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.720 I would have loved to have my own brand, whether 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:18.960 that's makeup or something else. But I have loved every 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.719 single moment of Town or twenty eight. It's been. I'm 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.040 coming up on five years, and I wouldn't change the thing. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.800 Like when she says she had her hand and everything 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.120 like this girl, I honestly like she and I joke 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.719 because like we literally the two of us out of 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.400 all of our friends, I feel like are always just 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.920 at work always. It's not a nine to five, it's 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.600 a twenty four to seven. Yeah. But you like you 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.000 did everything, like you did the social media, your brand development, 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:46.880 you were I don't even know that. Yeah. So the 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.880 first the first few years, it was Amy, Jess and I. 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.360 So we you know, three people creating an entire brand, 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.760 you do it all. My main things were always products, 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:01.040 So I developed all the products, social media, influence and 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.959 events and photoshoots. And then you know, as we got bigger, 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.080 you hire more people and you let things go. But 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.240 my two biggest things were always the products. I mean 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.680 I developed all the products. Obviously, you know, we've had 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.360 a few consultants and people on the team. It's obviously 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.120 not just me. It's a team effort um and social 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.719 media I've your recently let go of so now I'm 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.080 like just purely focused on developing all the products, which 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:31.360 is hard. Though it's hard to let go oh it's yeah, okay. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.199 I Mean one of the biggest things I've had to 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:38.560 learn is like embracing change. I you know, don't like change. No, 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:43.520 we do not like change chancers like their routine act. 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.480 I can't hate it, and I've just kind of I 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.480 had to. I mean, it's in a startup, you have 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.720 to pivot every single day, and I've just learned to 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:58.040 embrace the changes. But I it's been so fun. It's 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:02.880 been really crazy watching you go through the whole thing, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.920 because yeah, it was like she started out with there's 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:07.840 three of them doing all. It's just so wild and 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.120 to see like what it's grown into and you've just 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.200 been so passionate about it every step of the way. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.600 So I'm very proud of you, and you've been the 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:20.080 biggest supporters. Like I'd say we're ninety percent of My 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:25.600 face is Tower twenty eight. That's I mean same because 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.640 I like that they're clean, you know, like that's doesn't 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.000 know it's a clean, non toxic beauty brand. And the 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.920 founder Amy just her story really quickly. She's had exit 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.480 in her whole life and she wanted to create a 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:42.080 brand that was safer sensitive skin, but that was still cool, yeah, 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:46.359 and it wasn't crazy expensive. Yeah, So we're really affordable, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:50.839 we're extremely clean, We abide by the National exem Association, 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.360 and we're the only brand that does that, so we're 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:57.199 a non list of ingredients we can't use to create products. 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:03.160 Is probably the biggest and most brands because we just 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.439 breaks just very clean. We're very careful, such a clean 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:12.360 girl las days. So just right up right up my alley. Um, 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.480 I do want to also get into other things. I 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.120 feel like we should take a quick break and come back. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.400 Look at you, thank you so much. You know what, 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.400 Becca gone. I feel like I really have to like 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:42.440 pull it together, so we'll be right back. Okay. So 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:47.880 I facetimed Paulina yesterday because just spoiler alert, my weekend 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:52.880 was spent bleeding. I was on my period all weekend 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.080 and I was eating a lot of red meat and 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.760 just so bloated and uncomfortable. So I didn't really didn't 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.200 do it ton um this weekend. But I facetimed her 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.960 yesterday to go over something about the podcast, and I 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.840 could hear in the background that she was listening to 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.480 the last episode of Scrubbing In to like Prepare, which 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.480 I thought was really cute. To be clear, I am 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.600 a huge fan of scrubbing scrubbing in yes, I mean 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.040 of you, but of scrubbing in yeah, yeah, And I listened, 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.760 but I was like, so much pressure, I gotta listen 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.040 to all the episodes, and I was listening to the 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.640 hay Babe of Hailey taking that go to church. What 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.640 I thought was so special. Yeah, ye, a very emotional. Yeah, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.520 we forgot me. I know, we don't tend to get 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.880 a super emotional on this podcast. We like to keep 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:44.440 it fun and lighthearted. Yeah, totally. That one really threw 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.640 us all. I'm sure. So before you came in today, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.960 Mark asked me a question. I said, You're gonna ask 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:55.160 Pauline of this. I'm always fascinated by the dating lives 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.600 of young singles, and so what is your current status? 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.440 My current I'm single. By the way, you have a 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:05.760 great voice. I just want you really do great radio voice. Rasp. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.600 I've never I've never been told that. Thank you. It's good. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.920 It really works, it does anyway, thank you. Um. So 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.920 you're dating, you're single? I am single? You are dating. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.280 I'm not. No, yeah, trying to pretend like you're dating. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.320 I have not you on any apps. No. Wow, I 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:31.120 don't believe in them. Okay, sorry, that's a that's a lot. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.360 I don't not believe in them. I just don't think 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:40.720 that it's for me obviously works. It obviously works, but 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.360 I don't think it's for me. Have you done them 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.920 before and had a bad experiencer? Uh huh, Okay, that's 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:52.400 one guy. Okay, sounds like it's a bad guy. Honestly, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.320 it was a horrible year ago. You gotta weed through it. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.640 The numbers games. It seems like that's built into the 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:04.399 app experience I did. I did the Rya Raya whatever 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.959 it's called. Years ago. It's like six years ago, pre 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.040 my past relationship. And I went on one date and 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.760 this guy we had mutual friends, so it felt safe 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.800 to me. What a disaster of a date. I left 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.120 and I was like, never again. What was so wrong? 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.080 He as a person? He you know, he the first 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:32.160 of all was kind of catfish to be first, kind 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:36.960 of catfish, but that's okay. And then his photos nothing, 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.720 nothing like polar. I was very confused. It took me 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.320 a second to find him because I was like, that's 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:47.080 not that much um. Dinner was actually going really well, 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.440 and then he had like one drink and all of 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:54.000 a sudden he was just talking so much crap about 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:58.119 his mom and then went into like women belong in 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.919 the kitchen and like saying this like verbatim, and I 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.760 was like, there's no way people like you still exist. Yeah, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.960 and he just went on and we got into a 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.119 full on fight because it's you know me, I'm like 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:15.520 the opposite of that, and Raya for professionals too, like 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:20.000 the aren't people aren't women? Yeah, and apparently the men 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.840 on there are supposed to also be that. And it 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.879 just didn't. It just clearly did not work out. I 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.639 didn't have a great I didn't have a great experience 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.760 with Raya either. I honestly I haven't given them. Did 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.960 you find celebrities? I did? Oh, I don't want to out. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.760 You didn't go out with him? No, I didn't. I didn't. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:44.080 I just swiped. I saw a lot of athletes on there. No, 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:48.280 I saw a lot of like you saw Matthew Perry. 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:52.480 She saw Josh Groban and athletes and athletes. Yeah, like 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.000 a lot of soccer players from across the pond. Who 0:18:56.119 --> 0:19:03.240 was like Tyler Posey Oh yeah yeah yeah, actually like matched. 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:07.640 I mean nothing, I never spoke, right, um, I reefly 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:13.280 remember Joe Jonas being on it that jack pot, So yeah, 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.280 I don't. It could have been a fake account, but 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:20.719 I remember this real account. Obviously before it'd been like 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.600 very pre Sophie, many many years, many many, many many years. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.960 Did you swipe right on Joe Jonas? I didn't really, No, 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.879 why not? It seems like everyone that would be an automatic, 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:38.600 right girl? I don't. I don't. I you know, I 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:42.040 would rather not dat a celebrity. It's fair, is that? 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.960 Because you've seen celebrity up close? And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.320 I also think that that life is a very um 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.560 particular kind of lifestyle. Yeah, And I don't know if 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.560 it's for me. I'm not opposed to it. If it happened, 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:00.600 it happens, but I would that's interesting rather a lawyer, 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.120 a doctor, you know, because we see it up close 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.280 with Seacrest too, and Seacrest is kind of at an 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.720 extreme level of fat and that I don't. I don't. 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.480 Obviously there are many advantages to that, but there's some 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.480 pretty big disadvantages. Yeah. And I'm not saying that every 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.200 celebrity is bad. I mean no, but you don't even 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.399 say there. It's just like it's just not for me. 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.679 And yeah, again, if it happens, great, well, because you're right, 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:24.480 you be on the cover of every Yeah, and I 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:29.720 crash gossip site, and I live tinos a really private life. 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:31.800 I know. It's so crazy when I posted that she 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:33.560 was going to co host, like, I'm like, she's one 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.119 of my best friends, so I don't, you know, think anything, 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.560 and all these questions are like so basic, like I 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.680 know anything about you, and I like, wow, I forget 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.800 how private you are, Like you know what I mean. 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.040 I know people think that because I'm like, you know, 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:52.760 my sister's that's my sister is my sister, and I'm 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:56.240 friends with you, and you know, I'm like in that world. Yeah, 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:59.000 but me, Pauline, I'm not in that world dude, what 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.080 I mean, I'm like in it, like yeah, it's the 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.919 best way to be totally. I love mine. Because I 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.320 didn't want a job. I didn't want to talk about 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:15.760 the Oscars. Oh so fun, that's a big one, I know, 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.720 So I want to talk about how it was watching 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:23.000 your sister like on the I mean, honesty, it was 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:28.080 one of the more surreal moments, at least in her career. Yeah, 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.480 she's done, as you know, a lot of incredible life 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:35.600 changing things. But that day in particular, my grandmother and 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.280 my whole family flew in from Columbia and I was 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.439 sitting in the audience next to my grandmother watching my 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.000 sister on the Oscar stage, and it was just so 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.560 I'm so proud of her. I'm proud of her every day, 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.920 but that moment in particular was very very very very special, 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.680 and just to live it with my grandmother next to me, 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.679 and she walked the carpet with my sister, and so 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:01.720 the whole day was like out of a movie. Honestly. 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:05.040 It was so cool. And she, you know, Sophie has 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.680 worked really hard to get to where she is and yeah, 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.840 that girl works hard, Yeah, day in and day out. 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.359 And she's always been that way. She's been working towards 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.400 this her whole life. So if anyone deserves it, it's her. 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:20.560 And to see her on that stage at the Oscars 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:25.280 is like incredible. Yeah. We went out to dinner to 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:29.000 celebrate after and not after the Oscars, like I think 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.760 we got after her. And I was asking her because 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:34.879 to me, the Vanity Fair after party is just like 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:38.760 it's such a such a thing name yeah, and so 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:40.800 I want you to like share, just like what was 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:43.600 in there? What the line of the biggest thing? And 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:46.000 I told you at dinner I it is a most 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:50.120 humbling experience for any celebrity. And I don't say it's 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:51.879 been a bad way. I just thought it was so 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.080 funny because they don't allow and please don't quote me 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.480 on this, but for my understanding, they don't allow agents 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.640 or pr to go with ye that's known. So so 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:03.600 you know celebrities, they just get dropped off and you 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.200 have your ticket and your name in your hand, and 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.320 you make an hour long line for a picture. And 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.280