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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Beccat Tilly and Tanya red An iHeartRadio Podcast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: we are scrubbing in Becca, We are sons beccat Tilly.

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Speaker 1: Today she is out on vacation enjoying her girlfriend's birthday.

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Hailey, Kiyoko. But we have a special treat

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Speaker 1: for you today because one of my very best friends

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Speaker 1: is co hosting today. Please welcome Paully that Chart. Hi,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. So if you don't know Paulina,

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Speaker 1: she is one of my best friends. And she's also

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Speaker 1: the product developer at Tower twenty eight, which mark is

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Speaker 1: a makeup brand. Thank you very much. Yes, in case

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Speaker 1: you didn't know, it's a very huge, wildly popular makeup job.

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Speaker 1: Yet well, there's a lot of fans in the room.

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Speaker 1: Easton's wife, Alison's obsessed with Jia, Hannah's obsessed with so Ospray,

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Speaker 1: so fun fans in the room. And I do want

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Speaker 1: to get into that because a lot of people really

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Speaker 1: want to know about working with Tarra twenty eight because

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Speaker 1: you were with them from the beginning and now it's

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Speaker 1: such like a massive makeup brand, so they want to

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Speaker 1: really hear, Like the the nitty story story but I

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Speaker 1: feel like we should start with getting to know you first. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's do it. Where can we start? I mean, we

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Speaker 1: can go all the way back. What we should start.

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Speaker 1: How we met, how we met, Let's do that. Let's

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Speaker 1: do that. We met what eight years ago? No, I

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Speaker 1: think more at this morning. Yeah, at least eight. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We were at my sister and i's first ever radio

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Speaker 1: Disney Music Awards. Yes, and we are sorry. Her sister

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Speaker 1: is Sophia Carson, so you probably see the three of

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Speaker 1: us together. That's her sister. Yes, and people always ask

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Speaker 1: me she is my blood sister. We just have different

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Speaker 1: last names because she has a stage name, but we

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Speaker 1: are blood sisters. Yeah. We were at our first awards show,

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Speaker 1: Disney Music Awards. Yes, and we had a mutual friend Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he was like, you're seeing rad She is great.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna love her. Become friends. Yeah, And we just

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Speaker 1: spent the entire show together dancing and shamming out, dancing

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Speaker 1: to every single song. We had the greatest time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then the rest is kind of history. You and

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Speaker 1: I started boxing together, yeah, because we realized we kind

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Speaker 1: of lived on like the same side of side of town. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the west side of the West Side. Uh, and so yeah,

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Speaker 1: we started boxing class, like we would start working out together,

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Speaker 1: and then we would like work out and like have

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Speaker 1: then it just, yeah, the rest is history. We became family. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we literally became like family was clo oh oh. It's

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Speaker 1: a different relationship, different relationship. It is a very different

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Speaker 1: relationship because Paulina and I are very similar. Like Paulina

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Speaker 1: understands me, and it's a kind of same with Becca too, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Becca doesn't get me the way Paulina gets me because

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Speaker 1: we're both cancers, so we have like the same type

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Speaker 1: of emotional response to thing. And Sophia is is doesn't

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Speaker 1: get us in that way. She We're just very different.

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Speaker 1: And I think T and I are very similar in

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Speaker 1: were both sensitive, and we just always understood each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And but Sophia and T are just just as close.

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Speaker 1: It's just a different, yeah, different relationship. But I did

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Speaker 1: want to ask you about because I ask people for other,

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Speaker 1: you know, questions that they wanted and they want to

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Speaker 1: know how you and Sophia because you guys are so

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Speaker 1: close and I think a lot of people were like,

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Speaker 1: how do you maintain such a close relationship, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny and I Sophia and I weren't always close,

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Speaker 1: which I think shocks a lot of people. I am

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Speaker 1: and I always found her very annoying. I did. I

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Speaker 1: And but we always we were. We always got along,

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Speaker 1: but we weren't close. And you're kind of like the rebel.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're not perfect and what you see on

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Speaker 1: and vice versa, if anything happens, if she has like

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Speaker 1: wearing the merge, like they're both always as are you,

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Speaker 1: the most supportive friends, more people in my life apart

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Speaker 1: from my sister and my family. It's tea sounds like

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Speaker 1: she's part of the family. She totally is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she looks more like my mother than my sister and

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Speaker 1: love that I said that, but you like esthetically, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I say my daughters are in a similar place.

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Speaker 1: Was your thing growing up? I assume hers was singing

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Speaker 1: I love that I have such a separate career to hers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just when you think of makeup, you think of makeup artist,

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Speaker 1: when you think of the brand, but not the people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but not like the people behind it. But then, how

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Speaker 1: do you do that? Because my young it's also very

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Speaker 1: into makeup. How does a person who loves makeup, who's

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Speaker 1: you my story is how my kind of journey happened.

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Speaker 1: I got my bachelors at Lamu Alayla Marie Amount here

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Speaker 1: and it was an intensive program. One year. I loved

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Speaker 1: every minute of it. And Amy Amy Leu, the founder

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Speaker 1: I was like, I think I just met my future boss.

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Speaker 1: I would have loved to have my own brand, whether

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Speaker 1: you were like newly married and they have two beautiful girls.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? So crazy? Time just flies, lilies flies,

423
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: so crazy. But it was such a fun night and

424
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Speaker 1: they had in and out just on trees. Yeah, oh

425
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: so good. Sounds so good right now, you know that

426
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: time of the mouth. In case you haven't heard, we

427
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Speaker 1: have no idea, no, but you have been listening to

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Speaker 1: the podcast and you are aware of the Maid of

429
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: Honor to Bacle. Oh I sure am. Yeah. I've had

430
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: a discussion with that guy about it too. I told Becca,

431
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: I go, it's kind of offensive that you don't want

432
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: it so badly, do you know what I mean? Like Becca,

433
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: like Pauline has a better fit. Bye. To be clear,

434
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: I will fight for it and Becca everyway jingle. Van.

435
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: I was like, um, I heard the little competition going

436
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: on it. She was like, if you want it, you

437
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: can have it. I was just like, no, I want

438
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: to fight for it. I don't want to fight for it,

439
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: but I am willing to go for it. Right, Well,

440
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: we'll find out in time, we will move Well, do

441
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Speaker 1: you want to make a pitch for why you'd be

442
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: the best maid of honor right now? Sure? I think

443
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: first things first, I understand you better than anyone that's

444
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: and you just said more than Becca. That's it's a

445
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: different level. It's a different level. It's a different understanding.

446
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: Very organized, that's true, very on top of it. Point

447
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: for Paulina, I will make sure you have the greatest

448
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Speaker 1: Bachelor I party. You know. It's very funny though you

449
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: and Ecca, like Becca gets things done, but she's so stressy,

450
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: Like it's it's such in a disorganized way, do you

451
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like she'll get it done and

452
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: it'll be awesome, but she'll save it to the last minute,

453
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: and like it's very stressy energy, and you're more like

454
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: I'll get it all done beforehand and I'll have like

455
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: an itinerary. Yeah I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, like less

456
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: stressy energy, you know, but like both equally amazing. Oh totally.

457
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: I have no doubt she'll be great, But I think

458
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: I would just be a little better. You know what,

459
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: We'll just do it together. Oh yeah, yeah, cod cod

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00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: co Yeah yeah. Just don't put me in a matching

461
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Speaker 1: dress with anyone. No, I think I'd already decided that

462
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm not doing matching dresses. I'm gonna pick a color

463
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: and just let everybody go around. Thing great. It's like

464
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that, you know what I mean?

465
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: Like none of those dresses a look good on the

466
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: never flattering. They're never flattering. No one dress looks good

467
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: on every everyone. And it's like, I'm past that phase

468
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: of my life where I need every photo to look

469
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: the same, you know what I mean. I don't need

470
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: my bridesmaid. I can, you know, embrace your differences. Have

471
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: one strap, have a tube toop or do your thing

472
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: be totally covered. We're a spaghetti strap. I don't care.

473
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: Whatever you want, Yeah, whatever you want, whatever you feel

474
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: best in, got it. Switching gears from my wedding not

475
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: even it's not even switching gears. Um. I did want

476
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: to just touch on this before we move on to

477
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: our hot topics, because I got a lot of questions

478
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: from people who are not necessarily in the makeup industry,

479
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: but they're like wanting to start their own business, you know,

480
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: and are inspired by what you do with Tower twenty eight.

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00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: So if you could give them any words of a

482
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: wisdom or advice, what would you share? I think my

483
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: advice and I have a few different things, um and

484
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: I think this goes for anyone. I don't think it's

485
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: just in the beauty industry. I think the first thing

486
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: is work really hard, like, don't you know, work for

487
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: the job you want, not though when you have kind

488
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: of a thing like really give whatever phase or in

489
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: your career, give it everything you have. Just go for

490
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: it with passion and intention and heart. You'll get there.

491
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: Be nice. I think every industry feels really big. They're

492
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Speaker 1: really small, ye, both the entertainment industry, the beauty industry,

493
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: any industry, they're really small. Just be nice to everyone.

494
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: You never know if you're going to run into this

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Speaker 1: person ten years down the line. Embrace change. I know

496
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Speaker 1: that's hard one for us, but you need to learn

497
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Speaker 1: how to embrace everything because you especially in a startup

498
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: in any company. Things change daily all the time, and

499
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: you need to just learn to embrace it. And in

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Speaker 1: my experience that I've obviously had to in the hard

501
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: way and it's been like a lesson for me. But

502
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: through some of the bigger changes in my career have

503
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: come the greatest moments. So I just learned to embrace

504
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: that and pivot when needed, and honestly have fun, have

505
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I think there's work, will always

506
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: be work, but you can always find the fun and

507
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: the good and the stress and the good and the

508
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: bad day, and just work really hard and get your

509
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: foot in the door anyway you can, and just work

510
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: your way up and be really really grateful. Yeah, I think,

511
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Speaker 1: just be grateful for wherever you are in your career,

512
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: whether you're an intern or you got the promotion, or

513
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: you're just at any point, just be grateful for where

514
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Speaker 1: you are and where that will take you. Good, good, Paulina,

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00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: thank you. We're gonna get into some hot topics. Mark

516
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: had a really good transition, so I want to let

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Speaker 1: him thank you very much. She really transition the segue

518
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Speaker 1: that I was working so hard on. I noticed that Amy,

519
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: the founder of Tower twenty eight, was featured recently at

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Speaker 1: goop dot com speaking of Coop Gwyneth Paltrow. Oh wow,

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00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: thank you're the guy. Thank you very much, thank you,

522
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: thank you. She was of course found, uh Gwynescent. She's Gwennescent.

523
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I were you watching this case? Yeah?

524
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: I could not stop watching it on TikTok, adding it

525
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: was addicting. And so, in case you don't know much

526
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: about it, Gwyneth Paltrow was being sued by this man

527
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: named Terry Sanderson. He said that Gwyneth skied into him,

528
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: and she's saying that he skied into her. So it's

529
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: like kind of a he said, she said, but she

530
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: so he sued her for what was it? Marko was

531
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: like three million, three million. They knocked it down to

532
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand. But he's saying his life was forever changed.

533
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: She skied into him, and now we can't think straight.

534
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: Three hundred thousand to Gwyneth Paltrow is like three dollars

535
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: to us. And so the fact that she didn't just

536
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: settle this case and spent so much money, I'm sure

537
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: on like legal fees, I knew she must have been

538
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: telling the truth. She wanted to make a point. So

539
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: it was very entertaining to watch this all go down.

540
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: But she didn't win the case, so she won a

541
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Speaker 1: dollar and her pride a dollar. A dollar. I mean,

542
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: that whole thing was just when she left, after she

543
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: once she whispered in his ear, she said, I wish

544
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: you well, classy, good classy. So that was an end

545
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: to something that I was really interested in. And then also,

546
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, but Kelsey Ballerini

547
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: and Chase Stokes made their red carpet debut at the

548
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three CMT Awards. I'm so invested in this, Okay,

549
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: but did were you reading the comments? Because a lot

550
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: of people are like, it's too soon, they shouldn't be

551
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: doing a red carpet together, it's too fresh. I mean,

552
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: here's a thing to each their own. I'm down for it.

553
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I was dating this hottie, I would

554
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: take him to any time. Honestly, I was never like

555
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: the biggest Kelsey Ballerini fan, but not not a fan

556
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: just like right, you didn't really know much about I

557
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: didn't know too much about her. I am a huge fan.

558
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: I know, so invested. I saw the whole interview with

559
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: Alex Cooper. I'm in it, yeah, and I'm happy for her.

560
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think she was like, I'm

561
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm so happy she too. I'm so happy she's doing

562
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm dating this little hottie from they seem happy. Yeah.

563
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: And even if they're happy for a minute, who greats. Yeah,

564
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: she seemed to be really unhappy for a long time.

565
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: So I'm happy for her. I know me too. I'm

566
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm very much into this, like Kelsey Ballerini era, that's happening,

567
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: the same her whole EP album. I don't know what

568
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: it was. Sorry, epp. Oh my god, really good on repeat?

569
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: Pet House Oh yeah, so good, She's so good, so good. Yeah,

570
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm really living for her a moment right now, you too.

571
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: Mark's like, who's going okay, okay, fine? Fair Oh. I

572
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: did also want to update the scrubbers. I have some

573
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: bad news. Is there a sound effect for that works?

574
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: That works? Yeah? You already know it though. Yeah. So

575
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Speaker 1: Camilla Oh Luddington was supposed to join us this week

576
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: in the o R and we will be songs Camilla

577
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: this week, but she is going to reschedule, so it's

578
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: not she's not not coming in she's just rescheduling. We're

579
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: sure she's going to reschedule because yes, and I made

580
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: a point to ask. She did cancel all the press

581
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: that she had surrounding this as well, so it was

582
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: like an actual legit reason, not just like I don't

583
00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: want to see this girl again. But I was listening

584
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: back to the episode and it was so crazy because

585
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: it was from April of twenty nineteen, and I'm the

586
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: first thing we opened the mice and I'm like, I

587
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: met my future husband today. I'm like, who who are

588
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: they talking about? And it was Zachary Levi. I can't Yeah,

589
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: I remember that phase. I remember that phase very well.

590
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: But I was like excited to get to fill her

591
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: in on your current where we're at. Yeah, because all

592
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: of her friends, she had friends that listen to the

593
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: podcast and they were saying that they like to listen

594
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: because beck and I are so bad at dating and

595
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: like the stories are really funny, and so I was

596
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: excited to tell her that, like we're in committed relationships now, yeah,

597
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: both of you. I know, serious ones, serious ones. So

598
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: but I just want to because I did like put

599
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: in the Facebook group and stuff, so I wanted to

600
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: let everybody know that she was going to reschedule. Um,

601
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: so hopefully she we'll get her soon. We don't know when.

602
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: That very comfortable, the indefinite reschedule. Yeah, me too, But

603
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you just got to embrace change, the change,

604
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: guys thing. Something better will come from it, Something better

605
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: will come from it. Yeah, yes, correct, Because Becca is

606
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: not here today, so maybe Becca will be back and

607
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: she can actually meet Camilla. Actually, yeah, so maybe it

608
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: was all meant to be like that. Yeah, Um, okay,

609
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come back.

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00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: Do you want to do you have some advice to give? Sure?

611
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: All right, well we have some emails. Oh let's do

612
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: it with some questions. So we'll do that one. Get

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00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: back and we're back with emails. Casey says. My mother

614
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: in law loves her grand baby, maybe too much. My

615
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: husband and I live far away from both of our families.

616
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: We both work, we have friends. We really enjoyed a

617
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: spending time with a little family when we come home.

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00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: Not to mention, we're pretty busy raising our small human.

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Speaker 1: Our hospitality was after the first few months of our

620
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: baby's life, and my husband and I asked our families

621
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: to limit their visits to quarterly and we try to

622
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: only face time a couple of times a week. Both

623
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: sets of grandparents get plenty of photos of our adorable child,

624
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: but with every bit of content or call, there are

625
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: comments about missing her so much, your actual tears, that

626
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: my baby is growing up and I'm not there. Before this,

627
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: my mother in law and I had a great relationship,

628
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: but now I feel like she's acting like a parent

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Speaker 1: who's being deprived of custody. Give it to me straight.

630
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Speaker 1: Are these boundaries that we have set unreasonable? Oh gosh,

631
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: do you have take? I mean, I think I don't

632
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: have kids, so it's hard for me to comment on

633
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: this one. But I don't think boundaries should be respected. Yeah,

634
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: and if that's what you feel like you have to

635
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: do for your family, then I think it should be respected.

636
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: But I think that the grandparents want to seem like it.

637
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: I think it's okay. Yeah, I mean, nobody hears the thing.

638
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Nobody's in the wrong. There's no right or wrong when

639
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: it comes this kind of stuff, because obviously it comes

640
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: from a place of love. Everybody just like loves your

641
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: kid and wants to see your kid. Um, But I

642
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: do think boundaries are so super super important, and I

643
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: think you can only give so much and if it

644
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: was draining you, then you have to set those boundaries.

645
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: And I think to like, you know, with the little

646
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: guilt trips, I think that that just like happens with

647
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: totally parents, Like everybody deals with it with their parents

648
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, And I think it's

649
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: just like a generational thing. So I wouldn't really like, um,

650
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: get bogged down by the many little guilt trips that

651
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: she says, like it's okay, she's gonna say it. Just

652
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: let it kind of like fly off your back, um.

653
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: And to your point, it's off out of the place

654
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: of adoring your child. Yeah, So you know, yeah, change

655
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: your change your perspective a little bit on it, maybe

656
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: up them, maybe up the photos a little bit, fatime

657
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: the facetimes. Um. But I think you gotta do what

658
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,479
Speaker 1: you gotta do to be the best parenting. I agree.

659
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't at this at all. I have kids and

660
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: we live far away from the grandparents. There is no

661
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: unreasonable here. It's you and your kids. Yeah, I mean,

662
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: if you decided to cut them off completely, I'm sure

663
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: there'd be a reason to do that you wouldn't just

664
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: do it, you know, haphazardly. I think you're fine here.

665
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: I think you've done absolutely the right thing. You've got

666
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: us at boundaries are they're they're all the time, and

667
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: you're hosting all the time, and you can't be hosting

668
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, because oh I'm no trouble. No,

669
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: please stop it. I'm nothing. No, no one's nothing that's

670
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: staying in your home. They have to be attended to.

671
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: So I think you're fine. Quarterly is generous as far

672
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. It's four times a year. That's it.

673
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: Way more than my parents came and saw our kids.

674
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: It's fine. They're lucky to have quarterly facetimes. You're good. Okay,

675
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: don't let her get to here. Don't let her get

676
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: to you. You heard Mark Casey Anonymous. Those are years

677
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: that juicy. I like this guy a lot. I've known

678
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: him about seven years. We were co workers, and then

679
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: I got another job, but we kept in touch his friends,

680
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: and then in twenty two, which would be last year,

681
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: he reached out and we reconnected. We went to the

682
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: movies with his god daughter, and then again with that

683
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: goddaughter's mom, that who was his best friend. Okay, so

684
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: he's best friends with a woman and they went out

685
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: with the goddaughter. The mom and I hit it off

686
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: right away. Now, the three of us were in a

687
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: group chat. We message every day. We're on our thirties,

688
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: she's marriage, she has four kids. We all go to

689
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the movies and hang out quite often. For like five

690
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: months now, he and I still have our private chat

691
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: and we message every night from nine pm until four am.

692
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: We even knew Amazon Prime movie watch parties at night together.

693
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: But when he suggests doing something or I suggest a

694
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: movie or dinner, he always wants to include the other

695
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: best friend. Am I only the best friend? Now? Too?

696
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: Do I not have a chance to be his girlfriend?

697
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: I thought, because he was messaging me for so many

698
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: hours every day, that he had feelings for me. I'll

699
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: be honest, I'm baffled by this one. Oh my god.

700
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: I haven't I needed more context? Like have they held hands?

701
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: Held hand? Physical? Yeah? I mean I think in general

702
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: there are no guy girl friendships. Don't know if I

703
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: believe that one, but I don't. But I do think

704
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: that if you've been talking for this long every single day,

705
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: he might just not be that into you. In that way. Oh,

706
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: I have a theory. No, she's married, which is interesting.

707
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: The other is she not happy? That's my theory is

708
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: that these two one excuses to hang out together. The

709
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: godmother is telling her husband, Oh, it's fine because Anonymous

710
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: is going to be there. I agree, right, Meg, She's

711
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: th wheel. Anonymous is the third wheel, so that those

712
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: two to hang out, they just hang out. It's weird

713
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: to the other husband, Yeah, like why is she always

714
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: included in the three of them? But having said that,

715
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: why are they texting dming whatever? From watching seven hours

716
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: every night? No guy's doing that without feelings. I'm so no, agreed,

717
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: But he won't message her during the day apparently, but

718
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: then also want to take her out by himself, by herself.

719
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: If you're texting someone at two in the morning every night,

720
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: you liked them, and isn't it going to get sexual

721
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: at some point? Right? I'm trying to think if I

722
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: ever had this with somebody in the answer is no,

723
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: because you're in bed. I didn't either. You're in your

724
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: own separate beds, but you're texting each other. It seems

725
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: to me like it's going to get sexual at some point.

726
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: And if it hasn't, maybe that's a sign. But if

727
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know any guy who's texting with a

728
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: girl for seven hours a night that doesn't have feelings

729
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: for her, well, yeah, I just I agree with you.

730
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: I just feel like he must not be like her enough,

731
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: or he might not be into women. Oh oh, I

732
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, yeah that's that's actually that's valid, thank you.

733
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: I think the issue here is him out yeah, what

734
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: he wants. And by the way, why can't you say

735
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: to him, is there any chance we can go see

736
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: a movie just the two of us about so I

737
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: am tina have this direct? Why not just be direct?

738
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am um. You can always

739
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: agree on this. I like the guy to come forward,

740
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: and I think it should be more of the guy

741
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: than the girl the beginning especially, But at this point,

742
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: just ask him. Yeah, there's no The worst that could

743
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: happen is he says no, I asked out many men

744
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: in my day. You sure did. Sure, I was witnessed

745
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: to a few of them. This isn't even a tough one.

746
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: They're already making plans to do something. So if he says, hey,

747
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: I'll talk to so and so, just say, you know

748
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: what you know what. Let's Yeah, I don't, it's too top.

749
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: That'll impress him to what's a two top like table

750
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: for two? Oh? Oh, got it, got it? Got it?

751
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: Got him on the same side. Yeah, on the same side.

752
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: So that's our advice. He's gay, or he has feelings

753
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: for the other one man, or or he's just not

754
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: that into her unfortunately, So why not just say something

755
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: to him and then you'll have your just stop wasting

756
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: your time. Yeah, move on and find someone else to

757
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: give this much a t. If she needs the closure,

758
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: just ask him. Yeah, he'll he'll tell you. Sometimes you

759
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: have to accept the closure that you don't receive. But no,

760
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: but I know what you're saying. Anything like that, and

761
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: it's really good. I know the exact quote you're saying.

762
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: It's not that one. But accept the apology that you

763
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: don't receive it. No, no, no, yes, it's something like

764
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: that combining too, I think. But I get it's like

765
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: if even if you don't get the closure you need, No,

766
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: sometimes closure is accepting the apology you didn't get. That's

767
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, there we go, that's what I

768
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: got there, I got there. Just took a minute. You know,

769
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: sometimes the disrespect is all the closure you need. Oh exactly.

770
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: You know what. That's a great one. It's a good one.

771
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: Write that down. Yeah, because if you don't have respect,

772
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: you got anything, You got nothing. No, no, move on,

773
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: move on on, boye bye. Before we say bye bye

774
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: to you, I'm so sad and I wanted to end.

775
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: I know. It's fun, right, so fun, so fun, go

776
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: on vacation more often. I do think she has a couple. Well,

777
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, guys, I'm available. I mean, I'm

778
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: kind of I'll make the time. But before you go,

779
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to hit just a couple of the questions

780
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: that we did get a lot to it. It was

781
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: what's your hardest part about your job, the best part

782
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: about your job, and your favorite product. Hardest part about

783
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: my job, I would say, is which is equally the

784
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: most exciting for me, is the amount of pressure I feel.

785
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure in developing products for Tower

786
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: twenty eight, for a company that is now knock on

787
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: Wood very successful. There's a lot of pressure comes with that,

788
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: with creating something that the vast majority of people will like.

789
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: But it's also very exciting. I love of that part

790
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 1: of my job of a launch day and seeing people

791
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: are seeing in their reviews and the press, and it's

792
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: my favorite and also the hardest part is that pressure. Um.

793
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: The best part I think is my team. The team

794
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: at Tower twenty eight shot him out. Alex Live, Jess, Rosalie, Aaron, Danny, Amy,

795
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: of course, the founder, Victor and Alicia and oh my god,

796
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: I hope I don't forget anyone. I think that's everyone, okay,

797
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: and your favorite product, my favorite product. I think it's

798
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: not out yet. Oh what a team. It comes out

799
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: this fall and it is. I have it on right now.

800
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: I've been It's incredible. It has been my dream to

801
00:45:50,719 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: create a leather jacket. Um no, it's every day I

802
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: wear my Sunny Days Foundation and my Tower twenty eight mascara.

803
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: I usually use the brands, you know, as eyeshadow. I

804
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: did not today. Um, and then I always have a

805
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: lip jelly on. I love you. Those are like my staples.

806
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: A question, what is tower? What is the significance of

807
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: the name Tower twenty eight. It is an actual lifeguard

808
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: tower in Santa Monica. Oh and it is where Amy,

809
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: the founder and her friends. I would say meet me

810
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: at Tower twenty eight and they would meet up there

811
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: and it's you know, Santa Monica is on a beach.

812
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: Everyone's included, you see, diversity. So that was the reason

813
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: behind the name. I spent a lot of time at

814
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: Sephora in front of the lake, you know thing at

815
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: the end of the aisle, staring at it. My wife

816
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: picks it out, the font, the colors. If I feel

817
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: like I'm at the beach, I love it. I love it.

818
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: Something like branding. The branding is so good. Yeah, thank

819
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: you guys. Um My wife's a big fan. She to

820
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: send her product. Yeah, she wants me to ask. You know,

821
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: there's no preservatives in them, is the very natural thing.

822
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: There are preservatives, but not the toxic preservatives. Okay, so

823
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: there is we have in all of our products. We

824
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: have a preservative system that is all clean. How long

825
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: but it works? How long did they last on it?

826
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: Every product is very different, okay, So there is a

827
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: PAO on every product. It's period after opening and some

828
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: of it is six months, some of it is twelve months,

829
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: some of it is eighteen months. It just depends on

830
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: the product, all right. And creams will always last less

831
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: than like a powder for example. That's good enough. Thank you.

832
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: That was the question she wanted me to ask. Of course,

833
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: great question. Thank you, Alison, Yeah, thank you, thank you,

834
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time to be here.

835
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: Busy girly so I love this. I love you more

836
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: and we'll talk soon. I'll be back. If anybody wants

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