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Speaker 4: This is The Route Tree, broadcasting live on Dallascowboys dot

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Speaker 5: Now your host, Drew Pearson.

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Speaker 6: All right, welcome back to the rout Tree. We've got

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Speaker 6: a special guest. You know, the rout Tree has really

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Speaker 6: been doing well with the guests we've had. You know,

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Speaker 6: We've had Edison Walls, Charles Haley. But today it's really

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Speaker 6: special because you got one of my special teammates with me,

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Speaker 6: one of the guys that motivated me to want to

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Speaker 6: be one of the best to play. He was already

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Speaker 6: in the league when I got there, but he got

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Speaker 6: there just like me as an undrafted free agent. My goodness,

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Speaker 6: ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the rout Tree none other

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Speaker 6: than Hall of Famer Ring of Honor Cliff Harris Cliff.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Drew.

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Speaker 7: I'm really looking forward to it. I can't wait for

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Speaker 7: the questions you're going to have for me, and and

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Speaker 7: if they I'm going to pretend like if they're something

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Speaker 7: I don't want to answer, I'm going to pretend like.

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Speaker 3: I'm on, you're on a six route across the middle.

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Speaker 1: It must be a Thursday to survive. So that's played

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Speaker 1: a game on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 6: But some of the hardest things we're getting past you

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Speaker 6: in practice. But anyway, Cliff a free agent, one of

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Speaker 6: twenty two free agents in the Hall of Fame. You know,

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Speaker 6: there's fourteen number one overall draft picks in the Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame, but only twenty two free agents, and you're

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Speaker 6: one of them. I'm one of them. But uh, you

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Speaker 6: know the way you came through Arkansas, all right, that's

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Speaker 6: where you're from. Is it Arkadelphia? Arkadelphia? Arkadelphia, Arkansas, Arkadelicia, Arkansas?

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Speaker 6: And you're a hero up there.

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Speaker 1: We all know that. Okay.

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Speaker 7: Well, I was born in Fayettebull Okay, I was in

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Speaker 7: school there and uh working on his masters in agriculture

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Speaker 7: actually and nice.

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Speaker 3: But I was born in Fayetteville.

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Speaker 7: And then we moved to Panama for a few years,

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Speaker 7: and then uh, I moved back to Arkansas, and then

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Speaker 7: I uh went to Washtag and then to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: It's Panama, Panama, Texas.

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Speaker 7: Panama, Panama, south of Central America. My dad was we

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Speaker 7: were down there for a couple of years. My dad

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Speaker 7: was an agriculturist and uh he was down there teaching

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Speaker 7: the Panamanians new and agriculture techniques and all about agriculture.

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Speaker 7: And I lived down there. In all my there were

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Speaker 7: I learned Spanish and her I still I've bles Spaniel.

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Speaker 1: How old were you?

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Speaker 7: I was five to seven, you know, wow, and so

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Speaker 7: and we lived in a little town called Di Visa

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Speaker 3: So that's interesting.

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Speaker 7: So we were we were you know, there were there

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Speaker 7: we had to be careful where we swam and uh.

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Speaker 1: But school systems and all that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, school systems and well there was you know, this

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Speaker 7: was a trying to teach the Panamanians modern agricultural techniques.

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Speaker 7: My dad and the University of Arkansas had a program

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Speaker 7: that they gave equipment and everything to the Panamanians and

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Speaker 7: then and then my dad taught them how to how

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Speaker 1: You speak it pretty good? Now, did it did it

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Speaker 7: Well, it held on for a long time here. I

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Speaker 1: But that's that's interesting.

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Speaker 6: Man, you spend that kind of time, Did it make.

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Speaker 1: It tougher or something?

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Speaker 6: Because you had to go through it that way, you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, you know my dad, I think I think

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Speaker 7: And they tested him and found out that he had diabetes,

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Speaker 7: And you know, my dad, his dream was to you know,

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Speaker 7: And so I think that we took that opportunity was

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Speaker 3: I just my my thoughts.

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Speaker 6: But well, since you mentioned that with diabetes, that's what

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Speaker 6: you want of the cause that you support and you've

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Speaker 6: been doing it for years now with your foundation.

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Speaker 1: Let's get that in while we can.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's uh that we're really I've really been a

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Speaker 3: Breakthrough type one diabetes. Uh.

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Speaker 7: And and I've been doing that for many years and

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Speaker 7: had a great golf tournament that you come to and

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Speaker 7: you've tried to play in it a few times.

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Speaker 6: But I'm that guy that rides around the golf court

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Speaker 7: That's right, that's well, that's what that's what I do

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Speaker 7: and it's great. They've made a lot of progress over

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Speaker 1: We made some tremendous progress.

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Speaker 7: Right, there's major, major progress in these last few years.

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Speaker 7: It's a breakthrough Type one d is the name of

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Speaker 1: So that's uh, it's not a hereditary thing, is yes,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my actually my my one of my cousins died

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Speaker 7: from diabetes, and uh so it's something that's thankfully so

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Speaker 7: it's something that you need to be aware of and people,

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Speaker 7: you know, when you have a physical be tested for it.

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Speaker 7: And but it is controllable now more than than ever.

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Speaker 7: And they've the insulin and the all the and the

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Speaker 7: the chance of blindness today has been managed quite a bit.

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Speaker 7: So I'm really happy with with the progress that we've made.

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Speaker 7: And thankfully all you guys would come out to my

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Speaker 6: Well when you speak, we don't say no because you

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Speaker 6: it's just such a worthwhile cause. And then message you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, to get checked right, definitely.

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Speaker 7: You know, it is something that if you catch you know,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, my dad passed with lung cancer,

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Speaker 6: and I'm going to support that. But sometimes it's that

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Speaker 6: but it leads us in that direction. And then we're

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Speaker 6: all about trying to help somebody. Yeah, the next person

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Speaker 7: And you know, we have that opportunity, and that's the

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Speaker 7: something like that. We've been given a gift, you and

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Speaker 7: I were. The gift is a free agent and make

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Speaker 7: a great team and a great and play the Super Bowls.

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Speaker 3: And so there is some we we.

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Speaker 7: Pay back, Yes, we do. You know was that des

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Speaker 1: Thats Ark?

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Speaker 6: That's your high school in Arkansas? Well, it's that's you

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Speaker 6: at quarterback for a minute. Yeah, I read well, I

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Speaker 6: now I know why.

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Speaker 7: Well, No, I grew up in Hot Springs, Arkansas. My

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Speaker 7: dad was transferred to another job my senior year. I

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Speaker 7: and but I went to move to Desark. It's a

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Speaker 6: You know, yeah, the same thing with me or the receiver.

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Speaker 6: When I moved from quarterback to receiver. Right now, it

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Speaker 6: you know. Yeah, so you're a quarterback, that's amazing. The

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Speaker 7: I never wrote. I thought I had I had my load.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, you were likely recruited coming out of high school.

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Speaker 1: Well maybe only was coming out of high school. It

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Speaker 7: Like, well, you know, my mother went to Henderson State

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Speaker 7: and they're in the same town. Arkadelphia, Arkansas, and they

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Speaker 7: stopped that. They'd play each other at the end of

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Speaker 7: I thought of that because of that, and so now

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Speaker 7: But you know, it was the Methodist against the Baptists.

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Speaker 6: So it was a big deal between mom and dad

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Speaker 6: when you picked Washington.

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Speaker 3: No, not really, my dad was. My dad was.

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Speaker 7: My mom was okay, you know with it, because she

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Speaker 1: So they recruited you as of what dB or soll.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they recruited me is they didn't know where they

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Speaker 7: and I tried it at quarterback. We had a senior

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Speaker 3: With defensive back. And it's worked out, okay for me?

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Speaker 1: Right on it certainly, it certainly has.

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Speaker 3: That's what Landry's rules were. But you didn't give up

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to say. But anyway, you got into the

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Speaker 6: lineup as a rookie. Yeah, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 7: The I started as a rookie and was having a

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Speaker 7: good year and play. That's when fran Tarkington was was

449
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Speaker 7: quarterbacking the Giants instead of Minnesota and uh threw me

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Speaker 7: a couple of interceptions and changed the course of my career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, but before we get into h your cowboy career,

453
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Speaker 6: we got to talk a little still about Washita because

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Speaker 6: they don't name the stadium after you.

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Speaker 1: Cliff Paris Stadium.

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Speaker 6: You got the Cliff Paris Award to the top the

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Speaker 6: top DF.

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Speaker 1: It'sive back and what D two D.

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Speaker 7: Two D three and n ai a small college defensive

460
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Speaker 7: player of the Year in small college and we give

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Speaker 7: a big trophy. The trophy is a five thousand dollars

462
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Speaker 7: trophy or three thousand dollars trophy that we give out

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Speaker 7: to the best player in each one of those small

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Speaker 7: college divisions. And they now we give them out at

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Speaker 7: that Star. We used to do it in Little Rock,

466
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Speaker 7: but it's a because there's no not enough recognition that

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Speaker 7: goes to the small colleges in the United States.

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Speaker 3: They need to be recognized more.

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Speaker 6: And so your name on and we'll bring that recognition

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Speaker 6: well to it, you know, to get eyes to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and give him a great big trophy. That's a

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Speaker 3: great deal.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: David Basil created this concept and he's a sportscaster in

475
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Speaker 7: Little Rock, a radio guy and really a great guy.

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Speaker 7: And we have had it for jeez, maybe fifteen years.

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Speaker 6: So that's pretty cool. But anyway, I'm looking at the

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Speaker 6: selection committee here.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you're on it, okay.

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Speaker 6: Roger Staubach Leroy Jordan Woard, Garrison, Jean Stallings, Jackie Smith, Rayfield, right,

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Speaker 6: God rest his soul, Everson Wallace, Charlie Wardens, Bill Bates, gil.

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Speaker 1: Brent mel Renfrow.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you finally put somebody else in there from another team,

484
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Speaker 6: Jim Hart the quarterback. You probably picked them off a

485
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Speaker 6: few times. Let me felt sorry for you let him in.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, it was all the selection committee. And I

487
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Speaker 6: remember I went up there for one luncheon and then

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Speaker 6: presented the ward on.

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Speaker 1: Your behalf up there. But that's got to be pretty

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Speaker 1: cool to have an award and then the.

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Speaker 6: Stadium named after you every time you go there, Bam,

492
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Speaker 6: Cliff Harris Stadium.

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Speaker 7: Well, Kelsey Warren should it should be my good friend

494
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Speaker 7: Kelsey l a lot of money to that transfer guy.

495
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Speaker 7: He should be Kelsey Wore or should be Kelsey Warrem Stadium,

496
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Speaker 7: Cliff Harris.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, but anyway, that's pretty cool. You mentioned Kelsey.

498
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Speaker 6: That's what you did in your life after football. But

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Speaker 6: before we get into that, all right, we're going to

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Speaker 6: take a break in a minute. But when I was

501
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Speaker 6: studying for you, preparing for you, I never knew this

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Speaker 6: a math and physics major.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in college, Yeah, math and physics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well yes there's a double major. Uh well physic

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Speaker 3: with physics.

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Speaker 1: Well you know, no, wonder you way to pick up

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Speaker 1: the flex defense.

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Speaker 3: Well I understood.

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Speaker 7: You know it's a simple, simple formula equals m A.

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Speaker 3: All the guys that know.

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Speaker 7: Physics understand that mask forces mass times acceleration.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you use that when you're knocking people out.

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Speaker 3: I like to keep it simple.

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Speaker 6: All right, welcome back to the Route Tree of my

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Speaker 6: Special Death. Cliff Harris and free agent buddy from the

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Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys and a member of the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame the class of twenty twenty. And he's a

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Speaker 6: Hall of Famer now, but came into the NFL as

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Speaker 6: an undrafted free agent and one of the top picks

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Speaker 6: overall for the Cowboys as a free agent back in

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Speaker 6: the day, Cliff playing for Tom Landry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, What was that experience like for you?

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Speaker 6: Because I experienced him on the offensive side and I

573
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Speaker 6: thought he was an offensive genius from that point of view.

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Speaker 6: You experienced him from the defensive side. What are your

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Speaker 6: thoughts about coach Landry.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think he was a genius too. And thank

577
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Speaker 7: goodness that I had his system, his defense for me

578
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Speaker 7: to play because I fit that perfectly. Gave me the

579
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Speaker 7: opportunity to not play back deep like a Paul Krauss

580
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Speaker 7: or something. It gave me an opportunity because the structure

581
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Speaker 7: of the defense allowed me to attack the run at

582
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Speaker 7: times in certain defenses.

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Speaker 3: So it allowed me and.

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Speaker 7: It allowed me to knock the heck out of receivers

585
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Speaker 7: at times as well. But we had, but Drew, we

586
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Speaker 7: had such a great system we had when you had

587
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Speaker 7: studied the games an upcoming opponent, we would have six

588
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Speaker 7: of their games broken down in our computerized print out,

589
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Speaker 7: six of their games broken down to first and ten, second, six,

590
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Speaker 7: six and six plus third and five to fifteen, and

591
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Speaker 7: all the routes broken down, all the formations broken down,

592
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Speaker 7: and I'd draw them up.

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Speaker 3: And I wish I had one of my books I

594
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Speaker 3: could show you this thing.

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Speaker 7: But it gave you an advantage because Coach Landry always

596
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Speaker 7: was anticipation beats reaction. So the anticipation comes from studying

597
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Speaker 7: and preparing, and so you can anticipate and have that

598
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Speaker 7: little fraction of a second more that you do than

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Speaker 7: just reacting to it. And so anticipation is something I

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Speaker 7: live with in my life. So it's something that you

601
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 7: can live your whole life in in anticipating life and

602
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Speaker 7: what people are going to do and everything else.

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Speaker 6: So if you can have if you anticipate and be

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Speaker 6: prepared through the anticipation, you can deal with the reaction.

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Speaker 7: Yes, quicker, quicker quicker, because you're going to have it

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Speaker 7: already in your head that you anticipate that they're going

607
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Speaker 7: to do an en route like you used to do it,

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Speaker 7: like an en route or a post or something, and

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Speaker 7: you know, oh, this is a red formation.

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Speaker 3: They're putting the guy in motion.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, So they've run this seventeen times in three

612
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Speaker 7: fourteen of the those times they rant it with a

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Speaker 7: white guy.

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Speaker 3: Coming into the inside.

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Speaker 7: And I blew it in red shark, and I would

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Speaker 7: put the colors blue or red and put all different

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Speaker 7: colors on there to show what they were, the main

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Speaker 7: route runner and the secondary route runner, and you'd see

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Speaker 7: the whole pattern, but you'd see the main one, and

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Speaker 7: you know from a red formation on second and six

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Speaker 7: second and.

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Speaker 1: Six yards seven yard, you know what they un.

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Speaker 3: You're going to run that. They run that over and

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Speaker 3: over and over.

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Speaker 7: They rented against Buffalo, they ranted against Chicago, they ran

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Speaker 7: it against this one. So you know they're going to

627
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Speaker 7: run against you, and they run it against the last

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Speaker 7: time they played you.

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Speaker 1: So it's see something like that is so.

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Speaker 6: Misunderstood or underrated or under the importance of that and

631
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Speaker 6: being successful, you know, on defense and having that kind

632
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Speaker 6: of anticipation and.

633
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Speaker 7: You know, to have all your guys having that too.

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Speaker 7: And Charlie Waters was such a great guy, and because

635
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Speaker 7: he was the strong safety from me and he and

636
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Speaker 7: I knew how to work that system and knew that

637
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Speaker 7: we knew what was going to happen, and so we

638
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 7: anticipated and so we reacted faster. And he was a

639
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 7: great safety partner with me and helped me, I mean,

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Speaker 7: become the player that I was.

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Speaker 3: I really did.

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Speaker 6: And you know what you were. You were Captain Crash. Yeah,

643
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 6: you were Captain Crash. You were named that by your

644
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 6: teammates for his punishing hits, reckless pursuit of the ball

645
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Speaker 6: carrier and also described as our rolling ball of butcher

646
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Speaker 6: knives by Hall of Fame head coach George Allen and

647
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 6: then Hall of Famer Larry Wilson said of you, I

648
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 6: feel Harris is the finest free safety in the business today.

649
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 6: He changed the way the position is being played. You

650
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Speaker 6: see other teams modeling their free safeties around the way

651
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 6: Harris plays the pass and striking fear in everyone on

652
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Speaker 6: the field because he hits so hard. That's from Larry Wilson.

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Speaker 6: You know who that is now with the Hall of

654
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Speaker 6: Famer himself. No, that's respect.

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Speaker 7: No, But you know what with the plays that I mean,

656
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Speaker 7: the games that we got in Arkansas when I was

657
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 7: growing up, we got the Saint Louis Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Larry Wilson was my hero.

659
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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 7: And for him to say something like that when I

661
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 7: went up there and we played Saint Louis, and I

662
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Speaker 7: have to tell you the short quick story. I went

663
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Speaker 7: over to see Larry Wilson before and you were in

664
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Speaker 7: the Hall, No before when we were on the field

665
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Speaker 7: and we were on the field and I was and

666
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Speaker 7: I went up to him, I said, you know, in

667
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Speaker 7: pre game, and he was like, And so I go

668
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Speaker 7: up to him and I said, hey, mister Wilson, Cliff Harris.

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you, you know, you were my hero

670
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: growing up. And he just looked at me, went.

671
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Speaker 6: Right, Well, he respected you, you saying you were like

672
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 6: of a Phil Harris is the finest receives.

673
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: He was a great free safety.

674
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah but he was.

675
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 6: I played against him, you know, I got something against him.

676
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 6: But uh, anyway, that's that's pretty cool. But you know

677
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 6: your career with the Cowboys, you played in uh, let's

678
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 6: say Super Bowl ten and thirteen. One of a few

679
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 6: players to play in all five Dallas Super Bowl appearances

680
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: in the nineteen seventies. Yeah, wow, I was played ten years.

681
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 6: You played in five super.

682
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: Bowl Yeah, you were on the roll a good average.

683
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 6: Right, right, but to get there you had to play

684
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 6: in championship games and.

685
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: Old like that.

686
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 7: Goodness, I know we should have we should have been playing,

687
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 7: uh in more.

688
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: More, we should have more.

689
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 7: I mean the I look back and I've I've got this,

690
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 7: I've got I've got super Bowl thirteen. I've got I've

691
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 7: got one picture, one picture action shot that I that's

692
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 7: a great shot.

693
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 3: It's me safety blitzing and get me fire.

694
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 7: I'm safety blitzing and and Bradshaw is back passing, and

695
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 7: I'm leaping over Rocker Rocky Blier and the next and

696
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 7: it's a great picture and I'm just about to get

697
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 7: over him, but the next frame he hit my foot.

698
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 3: I'm TUMBLEDO. Wow.

699
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 7: I never got to a shaw, but they caught the

700
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 7: right caught. So the past I've told a secret, so.

701
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: We always knew what the rest of the story was, teammates.

702
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 6: But now you ain't built to the whole world right

703
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 6: here on the Cowboy Network.

704
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: So don't tell anybody.

705
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 6: Yeah anyway, one of thirteen players in NFL history to

706
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 6: play in five Super Bowls. Yeah, wow, that's that's pretty

707
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 6: pretty special. And I played in seven NFC championship games

708
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 6: and ended up playing in three Super Bowls.

709
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: But think about that.

710
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 6: When you're playing those championship games and you get to

711
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 6: the super Bowl, you want to win because you don't

712
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 6: know if you're going to You think about everything you

713
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 6: overcome the there gosh, oh guy, you know one hundred

714
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 6: and forty one games?

715
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Man?

716
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 3: Yeah?

717
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: How many games you miss?

718
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 4: Uh?

719
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: Well, I missed a few.

720
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 7: My I had a I was gosh, you know, it

721
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 7: tells you something about what you should do because I

722
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 7: went full speed all the time. But I one time

723
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 7: we were playing Oakland in preseason and I went up

724
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 7: and somebody ed Jones had or somebody had the running back,

725
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 7: and I was going to go up and smack him

726
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 7: down and knock him down, but he already had him.

727
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 7: And I said, now, I'm not going to do that.

728
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 7: And we played in Oakland. You know that grass is

729
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 7: real thick up there.

730
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I stopped up.

731
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 7: There and the guy lunged forward and tweaked my knee

732
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 7: and I had a stretched ligament, and so I had

733
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 7: to lay out for the rest of preseason.

734
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: But I came back with a wobbly knee and started

735
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: playing again.

736
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 7: But it told me the rest of my life, and

737
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 7: it tells everybody it should that, hey, man, don't.

738
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: Ever let up.

739
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 7: Don't ever let up, no matter if it's preseason or

740
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 7: what it is going and bring it every time because

741
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 7: that's the way you stay healthy and the way you

742
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 7: prepare yourself.

743
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: So you had that, but no surgeries throughout your career.

744
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 6: No.

745
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: I had then. So I had medial cartilage.

746
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 7: My my my and my knee. My freshman year, I

747
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 7: was I was a in spring practice, a fifth year senior.

748
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 7: You know, I was holding a dummy and he hit

749
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 7: my knee and so I it tore my knee.

750
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: Cartilage. Money not in the game, no practice and I

751
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: let up.

752
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

753
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 6: Not, you didn't do that very often. One hundred and

754
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 6: forty one games, ten season, twenty nine. I in t's

755
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 6: But here's the thing that sticks out for me. Sixteen

756
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 6: fumble recoveries.

757
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah done.

758
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you were around the football. Yeah,

759
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: sixteen fumble recoveries.

760
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: Well, I hope I caused him.

761
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: That fell on them.

762
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: Huh.

763
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. That's for ninety one yards. Yeah, that's amazing.

764
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 6: If you turned four hundred and eighteen punts, oh yeah wow.

765
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 6: But one hundred and sixteen one thousand, six hundred and

766
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 6: twenty two yards return on.

767
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: Kickoffs yeah wow. Well so you did that as a rookie.

768
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you were continuing to do that, yeah, after

769
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 6: you made a team.

770
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

771
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 7: After I made the team, I was running back kickoffs

772
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 7: and I had some record on the kickoffs returns.

773
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: I don't remember what that was.

774
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 7: But Jerry Tubbs, are our defensive linebacker coach, came to

775
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 7: me one time and said, Cliff, you know you need

776
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 7: to if you want to keep playing, you need to

777
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 7: get off the you know, kickoff team and the kickoff

778
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 7: returning team.

779
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 3: And I took his word for it. And said, look, Coke,

780
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to coach.

781
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 7: I don't want to run the kickoffs back anymore. But

782
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 7: it was probably real good advice. But uh, I loved.

783
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 7: I used to love. I used to love running the

784
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 7: kickoffs back. I got one story that on a kickoff.

785
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: So I was running kickoff back.

786
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 7: We were playing New Orleans and you know the kicker

787
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 7: had I had.

788
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: A problem, had a foot.

789
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: That was abnormal, Tom Dempsey.

790
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 7: And and so I was breaking up the middle and uh,

791
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 7: and I'd gotten through everybody and the only guy I

792
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 7: left was Tom Dempsey and he had a club foot.

793
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 7: They got a shape and everything out of shape and everything.

794
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 7: And then I was gonna just juke him a little bit,

795
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 7: not hard, because I figured i'd.

796
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: Get right and he stuck me right now, picked me

797
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: up and threw me down. I said, Oh, that tells

798
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: you never let up. I should tell you never let up.

799
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 6: Film stream around that Monday on that one, you were

800
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 6: like slapping down your seat.

801
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: You know you're hiding on that one. Don't call you out.

802
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: How did he do he tackle you?

803
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

804
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tom Demse he's going to have that record for

805
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 6: the field goal because of that club foot. That club

806
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 6: fit had the half of foot right in any metal

807
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 6: plate that you could what a really mobile. But he

808
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 6: kicked the football and uh but boy he stuck me

809
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 6: right in the chest.

810
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: So was that your last kick kickoff return?

811
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 6: No?

812
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: I was still I still did more. I liked it.

813
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: I like running. Yeah.

814
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 6: Well, we got to talk a little bit about your

815
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 6: life after football, because you've been pretty successful in your

816
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 6: life after football. Yeah, but before we get in that,

817
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 6: you know, we want to get into that because you

818
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 6: used your degree, you know, and your abilities and math

819
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 6: and physics and turn that into what you're doing now

820
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 6: in oil, energy and business. So we'll get into that

821
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 6: with Cliff Harris, and we'll do that right after this

822
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 6: right here on the out three forty three eighty eight

823
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 6: Free Agency Show.

824
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: Hood Eh, there you go, all right.

825
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: Every day begins with a promise, a promise to work

826
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 2: hard and to build a future. That's why we're here

827
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: providing the tools, expertise and John Deere equipment you have

828
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: relied on for generations to help you get the job

829
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: done right.

830
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: We're with you.

831
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: That's our promise to you because no matter the project

832
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: or the challenge you're facing, where with you?

833
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: Where are united?

834
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 5: Cowboys vans.

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Speaker 1: How's it going? You see that Cowboys game?

846
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: Oh? I watched.

847
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 8: I've been seeing some good things totally. They have some talent,

848
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 8: you up, some great talent.

849
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: And they got some fight hoping this is the year

850
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Speaker 1: me too. Oh I'm Cody. By the way, I'm Travis.

851
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. Travis. Go Cowboys Go.

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Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I can't believiate the whole thing of chicken.

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Speaker 5: To the route tree.

869
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Route three.

870
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Speaker 6: I'm here with my special guest, my fellow Hall of Famer,

871
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 6: fellow free agent. It's one of the Dallas Cowboys, number

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00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 6: forty three, White forty three.

873
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: Well that's the story behind that too. And uh so

874
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: I went to the.

875
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 7: Our equipment manager in the very beginning, and what was

876
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 7: his name?

877
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: I cantu no.

878
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 7: And it was before Buck, before Buck Buchanan. So I

879
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 7: go up to my rookie year and they were just

880
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 7: giving out jerseys and and they gave me a forty

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00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 7: three and he gave me forty three and I said,

882
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 7: forty three. Well, you know that's Don Perkins number, they said,

883
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 7: And they said, uh, that's Don Perkins number. And I said,

884
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 7: I don't think I want forty three. And he said,

885
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 7: don't worry, rookie, you're not going to make the team.

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00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: I said, oh, okay, number was safe to save anyone blood.

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00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god. That's how it was back then.

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00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: They let you know exactly what the deal was.

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00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 7: Rest of the rook Oh wow, I can't remember what

890
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 7: his name was, but boy, I was like, well, okay,

891
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 7: so then you had to wear it.

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00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, something that you said. You said, I'm gonna do

893
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: something in this.

894
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do I'm gonna make it happen like

895
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: this forty three happen again.

896
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: So you're not the original forty three with the Cowboys.

897
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: No, that's interesting, that's interesting.

898
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 6: We need to start a legacy with forty three. We

899
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 6: got eighty eight there you go. How about twenty two's

900
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 6: Bob and It.

901
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: You know, let's start some legacy.

902
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: Let's get some things gone.

903
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the leg way they treat eighty eight

904
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: with the.

905
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: Legacy, you know, no kidding.

906
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 6: And we could do other numbers that way, but interesting,

907
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 6: but I thought it was an ugly number, being forty three.

908
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 6: That is what it is, you know, a number of

909
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 6: my first preseason game down in the coliseum and get

910
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 6: to my locker and then the jersey was number thirteen.

911
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: Thirteen.

912
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: I went to Harvey. I said, I'm cut. I'm cut, Harvey.

913
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 6: They gave you number thirteen, man, So you had to

914
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 6: do something in it, man, But that's.

915
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: The way it was.

916
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: It was the same.

917
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 6: Yeah. So you had a nice career ten years in

918
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 6: the big man. You know, you played in five Super Bowls,

919
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 6: experienced everything life after football came. It came suddenly for you.

920
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 6: You walked away from the game.

921
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. I Coach Landry.

922
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 7: I went to Coach Landry's house and said I wanted

923
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 7: to talk to him, and he took me downstairs and

924
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 7: to his study and uh and we were talking and

925
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 7: uh and I trying to remember the whole story, but

926
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 7: he said, uh, Coach Landry, I said, Coach, I thought

927
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 7: about it. I'm going to retire. And he said, well,

928
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 7: we didn't plan on that, but will you will you

929
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 7: do this for me? We didn't plan for you to

930
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 7: retire this year? Will you do this for me, and

931
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 7: I said, and I said, well, yeah. What he said, Well,

932
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 7: Charlie Waters just hurt his knee that year and had

933
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 7: a surgery on it at the end of the year.

934
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 3: And he said, if.

935
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 7: Charlie can't come back, will you come out of retirement

936
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 7: and will you come back? And I said, yes, sir,

937
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 7: I will. He trusted me. I said yeah. And so

938
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 7: I was really pulling for Charlie.

939
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: So Charlie heard not to come back to not get hurt.

940
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: I wanted to. I wanted to stay out. I was in.

941
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 7: I was doing well in the energy business, and that

942
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 7: was doing me, doing well for me, and it's.

943
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: Not as brutal, and I knew that.

944
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 7: And I'm so thankful that I didn't go back that

945
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 7: last year because I'm healthier than.

946
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: A lot of guys and it's a blessing.

947
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 7: But I'm I'm thankful for the guys that Max Williams,

948
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 7: that that was a part of the in Kelsey Warren,

949
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 7: two guys that I really a lot to in my

950
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 7: business business life.

951
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 6: So what's the name of that company, Energy Transferred Party

952
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 6: Transfer Park.

953
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: That's for where I am today.

954
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 7: I've retired from it, but I'm still I still attend

955
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 7: the meetings and meetings and.

956
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: Did that for over twenty years, didn't you know.

957
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 3: Oh, I've done it for a long time.

958
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 6: Did you use your degree with math and physics help

959
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 6: in that?

960
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 7: Naturally, math and physics helped you know. There are still

961
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 7: geology and business and economics that go along with that,

962
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 7: and that we've got a great team that you know,

963
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 7: they're pros at all those other components that make up

964
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 7: the energy transfer of partners.

965
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: We're the largest, I.

966
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 7: Mean, by far, the largest pipeline company in the United States.

967
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: Maybe in the world.

968
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 7: I mean, so we're a big We're a big, giant

969
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 7: company and people should invest in it.

970
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: It's a great stable company.

971
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: Right on.

972
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 6: You make more money playing football or energy and gas.

973
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 3: I probably make more in a month than I'm.

974
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: Where is your rookie salary coming in?

975
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you.

976
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 6: Mine was fourteen to five. Oh, I'm proud of that. Well,

977
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 6: I didn't hold out for fifteen grant. Okay, Well, my

978
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 6: signing but was one hundred and fifty dollars, So I

979
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 6: know you topped that.

980
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 7: Okay, No, I didn't know, So mine was my my

981
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 7: I signed a three year contract. All the guys at

982
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 7: the training camp or when I went to training camp.

983
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 7: They all were laughing at me. Oh, you got a

984
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 7: three year contract, right.

985
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 3: So mine was white.

986
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: You said it's for log right.

987
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 7: I was thirteen to five, but I had a five

988
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 7: hundred dollars bonus, okay, and then thirteen five, fifteen and seventeen.

989
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 7: But they were because I made the starting lineup. They

990
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 7: renegotiated my contract and I got twenty, twenty two and

991
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 7: twenty six.

992
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 6: I renegotiated basically about the first five years in the league,

993
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 6: just to catch up. Yeah, coming in as an undrafted

994
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 6: free agent, you know.

995
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 7: But thanks than for business outside and Energy Transfer Partners

996
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 7: has been very good to So.

997
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 6: It's been a good life after football, good life after Yeah,

998
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 6: I was with Paris. You've got a beautiful wife, Karen,

999
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 6: beautiful family, you all that. I know you guys take

1000
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 6: advance vacations up in Arkansas and all that kind of stuff.

1001
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 6: That's pretty cool, huh. And your name one of your son, Drew,

1002
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 6: Is that correct?

1003
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: Yes, Andrew. Andrew had to him Drew. He's kind of

1004
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: he's kind of weird. I'm just kidding. I'm getting and

1005
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: the dudest one in the family. The smartest one too. Yeah, right,

1006
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: he talks a lot.

1007
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, beautiful family. So you're blessed, man.

1008
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 7: I am a blessed guy, thank goodness, you know, blessed

1009
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 7: to play for Tom Landry. You know what a different

1010
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 7: kind of coach he was, to have Gene Stallings and uh,

1011
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 7: in my life is just it was just a real blessing.

1012
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 7: And to have somebody that's a coach, that's a man

1013
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 7: of faith that really because we had you know, we'd

1014
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 7: have devotionals before the.

1015
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 6: Games every you know, and not praying to win and

1016
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 6: not just playing, to be thankful where we are, you

1017
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 6: bet you.

1018
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 7: I mean it's it's a gift and we need to

1019
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 7: be appreciative of it. And you know it's that's a

1020
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 7: I mean, it's a blessing to be you know. I

1021
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 7: mean where we are today. I mean, Drew, you're we

1022
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 7: both were into the Pro Football Hall of Fame now

1023
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 7: and you rightfully so. And we know that there are

1024
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 7: several of our buddies that we really we were talking

1025
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 7: about that earlier.

1026
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 3: It's really interesting the.

1027
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 7: Number of guys that should be in there. I'm pushing

1028
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 7: for some of them, so uh and uh, you.

1029
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: Know, and I know you are too.

1030
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, coach Landrews that type of coach

1031
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 6: that you really understood or respected him after you got

1032
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 6: away from him. Yeah, you know, and you realize what

1033
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 6: he was trying to do not make you just a

1034
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 6: good football player, but make you a professional, you know,

1035
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 6: how to maybe suiting ties to the games, carrying broadcases,

1036
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 6: that computer print out, that big old blue computer print

1037
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 6: out and stuff like that, carrying a playbook, you know,

1038
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 6: making us do the little things, paying attention to detail

1039
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. Yeah, I know, those are the

1040
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 6: things that he was preparing us for. To you was

1041
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 6: in our life after football exactly? Well, I mean you

1042
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 6: think about the other teams at that time, they would

1043
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 6: have three differences, cover one, cover two, and cover three.

1044
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 6: We had fifty or sixty different defenses, you know, and

1045
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 6: we had so much and it you know, and the

1046
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 6: thing that I teap but and then the part of faith.

1047
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 7: He was a real Christian, a strong Christian. And we'd

1048
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 7: have our devotionals as you remember, on Sundays before the games,

1049
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 7: you know, and weren't many teams that did something like that.

1050
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 7: And but to think that the most important thing that

1051
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 7: came out of it's something I really emphasized with my

1052
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 7: kids and my family is you know that you need

1053
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 7: to prepare. Anticipation beats reaction every time.

1054
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 3: And you know that's a whole lot.

1055
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 7: You know that about about preparation means preparation and everything

1056
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 7: in your life, everything that you do, you need to

1057
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 7: think about it ahead of time and then prepare for

1058
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 7: it and then you'll be successful.

1059
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

1060
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: And that's the way.

1061
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,479
Speaker 7: That's the way I've kind of lived my life, and

1062
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 7: I try to bring that to my family and.

1063
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: Others that will will listen. Well, the great year.

1064
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 7: You've been a great friend and you're such a you know, Drew,

1065
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 7: I talk about you're the performance that you've had over

1066
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 7: the years and how special it wasn't the difference you

1067
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 7: made and the courage that you had. I mean, there

1068
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 7: was that and those passes you caught across the middle.

1069
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 3: I don't know how that because you dodged it could

1070
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 3: dodge those dodge those safeties and made.

1071
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 7: Those big plays that made were so critical for us

1072
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 7: up there and right at the right time. I mean

1073
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 7: that Hail Mary was was the.

1074
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Years ago clip fifty years believe that.

1075
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 3: Man, I just can't.

1076
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 6: Coming back against a Minnesota team like we did man

1077
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 6: tarking out there?

1078
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: You know John Gillim, member.

1079
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 7: Him, John Gillim, Oh gosh, yes, I'm forty. And that

1080
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 7: that frozen field and the frozen in the.

1081
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 6: Weird Stadium, both teams on the same sideline.

1082
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: The same sidelines, weird.

1083
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 6: You're the whole atmosphere darkening, overcast.

1084
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 3: It really was just gloomy.

1085
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't no wonder it led to a hell Mary

1086
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: that day.

1087
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 6: It was a strange kind of day, it was, yeah,

1088
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 6: but anyway, you know, you got just being motivated to play,

1089
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 6: and you know we all did our part, yeah, to

1090
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 6: be successful out there.

1091
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: When we were all professional about what we did. Well,

1092
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: that's the best thing of you bet.

1093
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 3: And that's what I knew.

1094
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 6: I could count on you that you're going to be

1095
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 6: ready to play this day. You knew you can count

1096
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 6: on me, you bet.

1097
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 7: You bet you You know, every one of us knew that,

1098
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 7: and I think that they and we.

1099
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: Pushed the other guys to meet that standard. You know.

1100
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we'd get the young.

1101
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 7: Guys and they would they would pay attention and it

1102
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 7: was a serious. It wasn't There wasn't any you know,

1103
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 7: joking around, and we'd go to the Pro Bowl and

1104
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 7: uh they say, okay, we're going to go up there

1105
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 7: and play man to man and uh am zone.

1106
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: I said, well, wait a minute, hold on, I need more.

1107
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 3: I need something more than that.

1108
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 6: In the Pro Bowl, hey, let me let me tell

1109
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 6: you about the hardest hit I've had, all right, one

1110
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 6: of the hardest that you know, you mentioned I go

1111
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 6: in the middle and get hit. You know, I got

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Speaker 6: knocked out Kenny Houston, knocked around.

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Speaker 3: On Kenny Houston.

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Speaker 6: That fore Army used to have Thanksgiving Day, but one

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Speaker 6: of the harder. We getting ready to play the Redskins.

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Speaker 6: All right, it's a Thursday practice. I'm giving y'all a picture.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna talk.

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00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: And I run it in route and I.

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Speaker 6: Get smacked by Cliff Harris and I'm laying on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Okay, just before.

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Speaker 6: The game, you know, big gay, I'm laying on the ground,

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Speaker 6: hurt and everything. You know what, Coach Lankerson, move.

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Speaker 1: The drill up. We're we're on the clock. We're on

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Speaker 1: the clock. Moved the drill up.

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to get ready.

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Speaker 6: Many you got my attention. That's but that's how we practiced, right.

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Speaker 6: We had to give each other a picture and Wednesday

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Speaker 6: Thursday Friday, full pads right, so that we could pop

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00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 6: each other. We weren't catching people. And now we get that

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Speaker 6: timing down to run plays in a game.

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Speaker 3: That was probably on a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It was a Thursday.

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00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, defense, that's why you should have been looking.

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00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 6: At That's a long practice too that day. You know,

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Speaker 6: remember Thursday, that was new House. He used to have

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Speaker 6: run him off the practice field after we run our

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00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 6: sprints and all that. Never showered, change out of his

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00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 6: clothes and say, House, you nasty?

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Speaker 1: Where you going?

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Speaker 6: He had to go to University of Dallas. He's taking

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Speaker 6: a class working on his master's.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's the.

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Speaker 6: Way we did back we did we had to prepare

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00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 6: for life after football like that. When you're talking about

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00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 6: coach Lamb, you look. Chuck Halley had the uniform business,

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00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 6: Lee Roy had the lumber company, Roger real estate, you

1148
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 6: with energy and gas. You know, eventually I end up

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00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 6: selling headware hats. All the business acumen I learned was

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Speaker 6: being in those meetings, being around the cowboys, you know,

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Speaker 6: and you know.

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Speaker 3: What we'd do. We'd go across the street to Kroger

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Speaker 3: to get our lunch. Right, That's where we were.

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00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 6: Going one time sent Vernew remember Vernell over there to

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00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 6: get the lunch, so would be there during the break,

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00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 6: take a little bite and going to break and then after,

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00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 6: you know, finish it all. So during he goes over

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00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 6: there and I take a break, you know, from the meeting,

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00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 6: Like I'm going to the restroom and go want to

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00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 6: take a bite of my sandwich. And I go in

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00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 6: there and open it up. I could see it's been open.

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00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 6: Then I say, there's a bite taken out of it.

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00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 6: Then I look down the road there and there's Robert

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00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 6: Newhouse looking at me. I know what he said. I

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00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 6: guess you don't want it now, So I gave him

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00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 6: my sandwich. But that's what that's how we did. Now

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00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 6: that got a big caffriteria and everything, but we set

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00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 6: the foundation and we're out of that because we come

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00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 6: to this facility here and I see myself, I see

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00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 6: Cliff House, I see all our guys as part of

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00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 6: the bricks that lead this kind of foundation.

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00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: And we kept a good reputation for our for the team.

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00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 7: You know, we we we lived the good lives and

1174
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 7: tried to do the best we could, and you know

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00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 7: it was reflected down through coach Landry.

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Speaker 1: That was he was our leadership.

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Speaker 7: Leadership and you know all the other coaches that we had,

1178
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 7: like Stallings was a great coach.

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00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had a great staff. My receiver because it

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00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 6: Mike Dicker. He's a Hall of Famer himself. Yeah with

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Speaker 6: coach man, wrap it up right here, leave with the

1182
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Speaker 6: This is the three things, faith, family, and football.

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Speaker 1: Yes exact, That's how we lived our lives.

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00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: And that's the order.

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: That's the order. Right, that's all.

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00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 6: Right, You know that this is the order, man, Cliff Harris,

1187
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 6: Drew Pears. We can go on and on with this

1188
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 6: man because we are free agents and we're Hall of famers.

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Speaker 1: Show that ring clip.

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Speaker 6: All right, that's another episode of the Route Tree right

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Speaker 6: here at the Star Cowboys Headquarters. Special gift, Cliff Harris,

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01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 6: thank you taking it.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back again with another edition of the Route Tree.

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