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Speaker 1: You may know our guest today as the iconic voice

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Speaker 1: of Aladdin or as the one true love of DJ

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Speaker 1: Tanner Steve Hale. We know him as the smartest man

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Speaker 1: in the room who reads novels in French for fun.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to the pod, actor, writer, producer, teenage heart

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Speaker 1: throb and our dear friend Scott Wenger.

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Speaker 2: Yay, Hi Scotty, Hello, Geo.

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Speaker 3: Hi really far away, you guys look much closer to

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Speaker 3: the screen.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, I thought it was just so that we

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Speaker 4: could intentionally see all of the books behind you, because

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Speaker 4: you are such a smart man that you needed to

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Speaker 4: make sure and.

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Speaker 2: Show off all of your book which.

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Speaker 3: Are probably these books twice right, and none.

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Speaker 2: Of them are in English. So yes, it.

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Speaker 3: Does look like a Kubrick shot behind us. I did

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Speaker 3: Bob's podcast and it's like same. I look like like

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Speaker 3: a thousand yards away from the computer.

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Speaker 5: It's really weird.

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Speaker 4: It's like a big well, you do have a very

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Speaker 4: tiny head, which people aren't aware of.

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Speaker 5: People people don't know. It's like it's so small.

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Speaker 6: It's like a special talent you should put on your resume.

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Speaker 5: Tiny head.

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Speaker 6: It's a shrunken head.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we are, we're doing this entire episode as if

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Speaker 4: you're a hobbit, So it's actually all force perspective.

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Speaker 2: So all right, it works out.

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Speaker 3: Famous movie stars have big heads, like most celebrities like

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Speaker 3: big are famous for having big heads. So if you

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Speaker 3: have a small head, that's like a huge disadvantage I feel.

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Speaker 4: And by big heads, we don't just mean egotistical, we

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Speaker 4: do mean actual physically large heads.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't have that. You know I'm humble.

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Speaker 6: You are very humble. You really are one of the

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Speaker 6: most time.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the great things about me. It's one

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Speaker 3: of the top ten best qualities that I have.

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Speaker 4: One of your top ten favorite things about you is

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Speaker 4: how humble you are?

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Speaker 5: Is my humility.

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Speaker 6: You're channeling Bob right about.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the last time I did one of

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Speaker 3: these was probably with Bob in this room, and and

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Speaker 3: he was He made the comments about how the office

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Speaker 3: and I was very sheepish about it because this used

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Speaker 3: to be a lawyer's office. We bought the house from

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Speaker 3: a lawyer, and I.

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Speaker 2: All write a very lawyer, and you bought all the

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Speaker 2: books with you.

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Speaker 4: So in your spare time, you've become an expert in

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Speaker 4: what real estate law constitutions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you guys needed any advice.

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Speaker 6: By charge, we'll put you on retainer.

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Speaker 3: That's perfect. How are you guys? We haven't done this

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Speaker 3: in a long time, just like hung out.

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Speaker 1: No, no, we had well, the last time we saw

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Speaker 1: you was in Tampa right at nineties con.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, John's birthday party. It was that or was

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Speaker 3: it it.

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Speaker 2: Was it was in September? Was before that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was fun. Those things are those the

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Speaker 3: super fun. They're exhausted, like I'm I'm sick.

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Speaker 5: It's a great week for sure.

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Speaker 4: Well it's I mean it's fun like going and meeting

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Speaker 4: all the fans.

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Speaker 2: I mean they get so we've been talking about on

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Speaker 4: You know, with all of our interviews and John and

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Speaker 4: Dave and stuff, talking about like just how our fans

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Speaker 4: are so dedicated to the show and know everything about

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Speaker 4: the show, Like they things that that Andrey and I

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Speaker 4: we're rewatching the show. I'm like, wow, they correct things

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Speaker 3: I feel very sheepish because sometimes they'll know so much

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Speaker 3: more than I ever knew about the show, you know,

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Speaker 3: and they remember every episode and then every once in

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Speaker 3: a while, someone will say something that I'm like.

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Speaker 5: I'm quite sure you're right about that, but let's just

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Speaker 2: I don't like to sure, right, but.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, people, it's really cool. I always appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I'm never like annoyed. I'm never like when people are like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, Steve, I never like, I'm always very

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Speaker 4: But that's just your wife saying that, right, like, so

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Speaker 4: it makes it like it's yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean, in fact, that's how I married her. She

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Speaker 3: won me in a contest.

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Speaker 5: Wow, it was a celebrity bachelor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was a fantastic.

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Speaker 1: How does nineties con compare to all the Disney conventions

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Speaker 1: that you do as the voice of Aladdin.

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Speaker 3: I don't go to any like Disney specific like conventions.

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Speaker 3: Nineties con is a very specific thing. But the funny

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Speaker 3: so there's usually like it all comes to.

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Speaker 2: Get so it kind of counts for both.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so, like I've been to I guess two

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Speaker 4: Well sometimes they have like the voices from some of

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Speaker 3: Right just went to It was like that. It was like,

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Speaker 3: it was really funny because I was wondering. I got

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Speaker 3: like anxious before it. I was like, are they gonna

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Speaker 5: And I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: And then they were so clever because I was the bridge,

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Speaker 5: That was nice.

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Speaker 6: That was planning.

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Speaker 5: It was better. It was yeah, it was good. It

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Speaker 3: Because the only other nineties con I went to was

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Speaker 5: I didn't make it, that's right.

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Speaker 2: We did Hartford too, and that was the first.

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Speaker 3: One, which was like crazy. There were so many people.

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Speaker 2: At home and right, it was just good to be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but none of my Aladdin people were at that one.

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Speaker 3: That was just us us full house guys.

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Speaker 4: Just us is so speaking of I mean, we're going

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting season five. You started in season five if

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Speaker 1: I record, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there was one. I did one episode as Steve Peters.

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Speaker 2: And I really I don't remember this.

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Speaker 3: Well you got you were so little, But do you

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Speaker 3: remember the episode where DJ's going out on a date

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Speaker 3: with Steve Peters from school, and but she's supposed to

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Speaker 3: babysit for Michelle and Stephanie. So she Michelle and Stephanie

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Speaker 3: to the movie theater on the date, right right, and

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Speaker 3: Kimmy works at the movie theater right right.

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Speaker 4: And which sneaks us in or something because it's like

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Speaker 2: Right, it's a movie, right right right, and.

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Speaker 3: Peters just as doing the whole yawning arms around, you know,

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Speaker 3: like trying, yeah, J. And but the weird thing is

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Speaker 3: I never Then the next year they said, would you

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Speaker 3: mind coming back? Would you be interested in coming back

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Speaker 3: and being like a regular on the show and being

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Speaker 3: DJ's boyfriend Steve, and I was like, of course, And

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Speaker 3: it never even occurred to me that then I came

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Speaker 5: It was a whole different Steve.

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Speaker 3: But I think in the writer's minds, I was a

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Speaker 3: totally different guy. Like the guy that she went on

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Speaker 2: I don't know. We do it.

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Speaker 4: We changed names on this show, like the mannequin's change outfits.

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Speaker 2: You know it'sis name.

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Speaker 6: Cochrane went to Calis. Yeah, common changed, We changed.

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Speaker 4: Names, switch out actors that play characters and grandparents. It's

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Speaker 4: I think you're probably the same Steve. And they were like,

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Speaker 4: just make it Hale a.

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Speaker 5: Writer on the show, Boyd Hale. And so that's why. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I think they were like.

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Speaker 2: You're named after Boyd. I think, oh little baby Boyd.

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Speaker 1: So BOYD say, hey, I've been here five seasons. I

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Speaker 1: deserve to get my name one of.

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Speaker 5: The character named after me. Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so I did one of Steve Peters and

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Speaker 4: What was it like auditioning for the show. Do you

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Speaker 3: It was one of those it's funny like to say it,

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Speaker 5: I didn't audition for it. I was working.

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Speaker 3: I was already part of like the Miller Boyett sort

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Speaker 3: before I came on, I did that one episode of

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Speaker 3: Steve Peters. I was on this series for them called

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Speaker 3: The Family Man that was like supposed to be like

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Speaker 3: And we did twenty two episodes of it, and it

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Speaker 5: It was like a very weird story.

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Speaker 3: And then they asked me to come on and do

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Speaker 3: like I never auditioned for it, which is always wow,

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Speaker 3: that's the story of my life. I mean, not just

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Speaker 3: but also but when I when there's a the stakes

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Speaker 1: I'm really same same, you really hate them.

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Speaker 3: I can't picture you. I just imagine you being graded

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Speaker 3: auditions both.

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Speaker 2: No, you're both CROs Jody's like.

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Speaker 4: I actually I miss auditions though, like going into a

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Speaker 4: room because I do miss.

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Speaker 2: Really to like talk. Yeah, yeah, that was the.

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Speaker 4: Most fun part of the interview, was like going in

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Speaker 4: and actually talking to people and meeting people because yeah,

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Speaker 4: and then you then it just makes it that much

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Speaker 4: more comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Self tapes are awful.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, yeah, well that you know. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been like a professional, I mean, except for

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Speaker 3: coming back to do Fuller House, I haven't been an

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Speaker 3: any auditions, right, And it's true, like the last time

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Speaker 3: I went for an audition.

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Speaker 5: You would get a call from your agent.

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Speaker 3: They'd say, oh, you're going in for a thing, and

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Speaker 3: then get have to drive to the agency and pick

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Speaker 3: up the pick.

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Speaker 3: It's really I'm sure you guys hear that ten times.

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Speaker 1: More than I. Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's comfort food for people, familiar faces

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so weird how it's still so relevant today,

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Speaker 5: Did I see kids now? Like you said? And Doc

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Speaker 5: That's funny.

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Speaker 4: It's just such a lovely human and fit right in

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Speaker 4: Our moms would go to dinner and then come and

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Speaker 2: Well, you know my mom, I remember your I remember

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Speaker 2: Out with your Lauren, your sister got there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they're all by the way, they all

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Speaker 5: Doing great everywhere.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really nice.

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Speaker 2: So wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget that you weren't in the early seasons

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Speaker 4: You and Laurie just both feel like it's been there

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Speaker 5: Lauri did come me, lur came on pretty early.

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Speaker 4: We just we just watched her first episode season two,

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Speaker 2: But you have always also.

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Speaker 3: I've worked on a lot of shows, like as an

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Speaker 2: And Rob was the glue.

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Speaker 2: But I remember I remember when you this was probably

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Speaker 4: This was around the end because I my mom was

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Speaker 2: We'd go to Jerry's or we'd go so.

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Speaker 2: Now? Could you imagine?

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Speaker 5: I know that's great.

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Speaker 4: Would never get us questions they would have They wouldn't Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Beck, Yeah I was. I was sixteen years old. I

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Speaker 2: You were a kid. Bob was an idiot, but he was.

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Speaker 5: It's like going, I.

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Speaker 5: One hundred percent. He was definitely a big musical influence

450
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 5: for sure.

451
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 4: So but what I hear you saying is that we're

452
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 4: your favorite cast, that you've worked on a lot of

453
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 4: other shows, that you've done other things, but nothing.

454
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 5: Nothing compares nothing.

455
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,120
Speaker 2: I don't even like it, nothing compares to you us.

456
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 3: Now It's well, I mean, you guys are more than

457
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 3: a cast. I mean, like we were a family for real,

458
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I know it sounds like, I mean,

459
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 3: the show's been off the year long enough that like,

460
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 3: we don't have any incentive to not tell the truth about.

461
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 2: This, right, Yeah, exactly. If we really hated each other,

462
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 2: we would have done it by now.

463
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

464
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,479
Speaker 3: And when we do, when we hang out together and public,

465
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,640
Speaker 3: people can see right away that it's a very close

466
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 3: knit bunch, you know that, like we're you know, and

467
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,919
Speaker 3: then and then even when we go a long time

468
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 3: without seeing each other, it's immediately we fall.

469
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 5: Back into that.

470
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

471
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 5: Although I feel like you guys see each.

472
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 3: Other all that you're doing this podcast and you're together

473
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 3: all the time. Everybody is everybody hanging out without me?

474
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 3: Is that what's going on?

475
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,439
Speaker 2: That's what's happening, Scott.

476
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 4: And I'm so glad we brought you on this public

477
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 4: forum to let you know that we've all been hanging

478
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 4: out without you because we just want.

479
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 2: To make you feel bad because you feel bad.

480
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 6: I feel bad.

481
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 5: I feel bad.

482
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 6: Wait where did that come from?

483
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 2: Where did I feel bad come from? It was you?

484
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 3: And well you know why, because I always felt bad,

485
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 3: Like I thought, like.

486
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: Is it does?

487
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 3: It?

488
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 2: Is your thing?

489
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 3: I was like obsessed with not wanting to hurt anybody's

490
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 3: feelings ever or saying anything that might offend anything.

491
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,239
Speaker 4: That's why you and Bob would all write. You and

492
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,479
Speaker 4: Bob got along really well because he also was like that.

493
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 4: And then he would eventually take something too far and

494
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 4: then wind up texting you about it later.

495
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 5: It's true. Yeah, that's true.

496
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: And and Bob you'd be like, I'm sorry, I feel bad.

497
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 2: I feel bad, and.

498
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 3: He would give me a hard time over qualities that

499
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 3: he himself that he was afraid he had, you know, like,

500
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 3: so he would always say.

501
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 5: Stop feeling bad all the time. You're always feeling bad.

502
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 5: Just live your life. Stop feeling I'm like a kettle.

503
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: You know, right exactly.

504
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's true.

505
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bob would, Yeah, one of us would always like

506
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 3: we'd hang out and then I'd be like, at three

507
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: in the morning, I'm really sorry about that thing.

508
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 5: I said. I hope he's like, you're an idiot, and

509
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 5: then he would do it.

510
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

511
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, we had a very funny relationship because he

512
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,239
Speaker 3: was twenty years older than me, but we were like,

513
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 3: I guess, like brothers, you know, like.

514
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: He was Yeah, So do you feel bad about leaving

515
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 1: full House in season eight to go.

516
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 6: To Harvard, Which I don't know why I feel so

517
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 6: bad about it?

518
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 4: What was I thinking, he feels so bad, Yeah, getting

519
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 4: an education.

520
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,239
Speaker 5: It was.

521
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: It was funny because I remember, you know, when I

522
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: came on to the show for that first season as

523
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 3: a series regular, I was still in high school.

524
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 5: I was a senior in high school, and.

525
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: Then I got into college and then you know, in

526
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 3: those days, you would just mail them back a postcards

527
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 3: saying yes, I'm coming, but next year. And so I

528
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 3: sent them on the postcards. So I deferred a year.

529
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: If you skip it, if I think, then you would

530
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: have to reapply, which I was.

531
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can differ a year on an exception or

532
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 4: on being accepted. You can then say I'll come next year.

533
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 4: But more than that, then you have to go through the.

534
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wasn't prepared to do that. I was

535
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 3: stressful enough, and I felt like I won the lottery

536
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: and got into the school. I'm not going to try it,

537
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: you know, take a chance, right and so, and you know,

538
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 3: and also I didn't want to be like, way older

539
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 3: than my classmates and stuff, you know, young. You know,

540
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 3: when I got there a year late, I was like

541
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: one of the I was. I was one of the

542
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 3: youngest kids in my class anyway, So it felt like

543
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: I was totally but you know, and but I remember

544
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,479
Speaker 3: having to take a meeting with everybody and explain that,

545
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 3: you know, as much as I loved the show and

546
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 3: was so happy I wanted to leave for college, and.

547
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 5: They were cool, you know.

548
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like they were not like great,

549
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 3: get out of here, you know, but I feel like

550
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 3: it was a good opportunity for them to have DJ

551
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 3: date other people and stories.

552
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 4: And stuff, right, And they were also like our producers

553
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 4: were also always so supportive of education, of making sure

554
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 4: that like our school life really was a priority and

555
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 4: came first. So like, I'm sure that that was also

556
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 4: part of it too, And yeah, did you were going

557
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: to Harvard? Like it's not like you were like, hey,

558
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to you know, yeah, exactly.

559
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 3: Well, you know, they were so gracious about that big

560
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: you know. The funny thing is some people were like.

561
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 5: What are you thinking?

562
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: Like you have this, like you won the lottery, You're

563
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 3: like an actor on a hit show. Why on God's

564
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: Earth would you walk away from that?

565
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

566
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: And then other people said the exact opposite, like you're

567
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 3: doing the right thing.

568
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 5: You know.

569
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 3: You don't want to be one of those Hollywood kids

570
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: or whatever, And there were.

571
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 5: Times and I don't regret it at all.

572
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it was an amazing experience and I would

573
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 3: do it again a hundred times, you know, like exactly

574
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: the way I did it. But like, there were definitely

575
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: times where when I was in college and I felt

576
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: like the show was still going on and I missed

577
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 3: you guys, and I missed my liked about in la.

578
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: You know, there were definitely times where I was like,

579
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: what was I thinking? But in the aggregate, I was

580
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 3: glad I made the decision.

581
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: Did you feel like a normal college student or did

582
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: you feel like a famous person at Harvard? Like how

583
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: did the other students respond to you when you little

584
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: bit of boat?

585
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 3: You know, like I tried to just sort of you know,

586
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 3: it was pre social media and pre you know, not

587
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: pre true that.

588
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,719
Speaker 5: Old, but it was like but it was definitely pre

589
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 5: all close.

590
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: But I don't know, Internet made a weird noise when

591
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: you started it and you had to make sure nobody

592
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 4: else was on the phone in your house when it

593
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 4: was not like it is today.

594
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, you didn't have to dial in.

595
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: But like when I was a freshman in college, they

596
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: had wired all the buildings for ethernet, like for.

597
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: Right right you could plug it in, but it.

598
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: Wasn't in the walls like they had all these It

599
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: looked like when you look at like pictures of like

600
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: the nineteenth century, like telegraph wires and stuff, there were just.

601
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: Right, right right everywhere.

602
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the.

603
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: Beginning, but I definitely felt like I don't know, like

604
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: I tried really hard to be I remember they wanted

605
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: entertainment tonight. I think wanted me to carry my agent

606
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 3: or somebody called it, and said they want to know

607
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: if you would take a video camera just sort of

608
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 3: videotape your life. They could do segments on what's it

609
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 3: like to be a kid actor going off to college?

610
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's literally the opposite of what

611
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: I you know what I mean that right, nothing could

612
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: draw more attention and.

613
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 5: Intros.

614
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 4: I mean, now it would be it would be like

615
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 4: totally be fine because everyone walks around with a video

616
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 4: camera filming themselves and talking about what they're doing. Yeah,

617
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 4: but yeah, I shouldn't have been or you could have

618
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 4: been the original influencer, Scott.

619
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 3: You could have could have been, you know, I was

620
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 3: still part of like I still had like hollywoodish kind

621
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: of jobs, like, but I was doing that. I was

622
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: like a correspondent for Good Morning America at the time,

623
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: Like I was their youth correspondent, so like cool, I

624
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: would go.

625
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 5: Off and do stories.

626
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: I would like leave for a couple of days and

627
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: go do a story and then go to New York.

628
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 5: And like present, that's cool. That was very cool.

629
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: So that I mean, I definitely was still had a

630
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: foot in like show business a little bit, but I

631
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: was very conscious about I don't know, it's sort of

632
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: backfired anyway, Like I don't know why I tried so

633
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: hard to be like normal. I was very like obsessed

634
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 3: with my privacy, you know what I mean.

635
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 4: And I think that kind of comes at that age though.

636
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 4: It's like because I think we all kind of went

637
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: through that. We were like, oh my god, and it's

638
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 4: you know, it's the teenager like you just I just

639
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: want to be like everybody else. I just don't want

640
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 4: to stand out and just want to be like normal

641
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: until everyone realizes that none of us are, and you know,

642
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 4: that doesn't happen.

643
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 3: I think I would with being normal and private that

644
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: I was like normal and too private, and I sort

645
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 3: of like screwed myself out of a little bit of

646
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: the experience of like college a little bit, you know

647
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: what I mean.

648
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 5: But it was great.

649
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: It was I mean, you know, I definitely there's certain

650
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: things I would do differently, but for the most part,

651
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: it nailed it.

652
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: For the most part. Awesome.

653
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: Were you still doing Aladdin? Were you recording a Laddin voices?

654
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: It was so funny because it was like a process

655
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: because you know, like you know what we're talking about.

656
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: It's like pre nowadays you could record it from your

657
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: you know, you could go in the bathroom and put

658
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 3: up something, right. But uh, at first they would fly

659
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: me to La sometimes to do recording sessions, and then

660
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: they would fly me to They were like, this is

661
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: too much traveling for you. And then we found a

662
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: studio in New York where I would just go to

663
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: where the New York actors would go, which was fun.

664
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: I would like take the Delta shuttle. That was such

665
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: an easy flight and in those days, the security so

666
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: like I could get.

667
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: In a cab right, you just pop on.

668
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: It was literally like if it was the Delta shuttle

669
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 3: was like every hour or every half hour whatever. I

670
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: could get there at like seven fifteen to catch a

671
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: seven thirty shuttle to New York and it was crazy.

672
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 3: But then eventually they found a studio in New York

673
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: in Boston and I would just go, you know, take

674
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: the subway into Copley Square and just do you know,

675
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: do it there. So they were very cool about trying

676
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 3: to make But wherever I go in the world, they

677
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: would find me to do a session. You know, like

678
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 3: even when I did a semester abroad in Paris, they

679
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: found me. My agent left me a message at home.

680
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: They found you.

681
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 5: They found me, and then a.

682
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: Car came and picked me up and took me to

683
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 3: a recording studio like somewhere in on the outside of Paris,

684
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: and I recorded there.

685
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 5: You know, it was very cool.

686
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 6: Wow.

687
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't get away from them, Yeah.

688
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 4: Right, I mean they had your permission before the car

689
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 4: pulled up, and it was to a studio to record

690
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 4: a lad under duress and.

691
00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: Then come back.

692
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 4: Okay, got yeah, making it clear. I was just walking

693
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: down the street in pars and this car pulled up.

694
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 4: We'll be inside, told me to be Aladdin.

695
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: What was your audition like for Aladdin? Like was it cutthroat?

696
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: Were you up against a lot of others?

697
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I was very lucky.

698
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: Like I said, I suck at auditions because I get

699
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: so nervous, you know, I get so in my own head.

700
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: And I was I started auditioning for Aladdin when I

701
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 3: was doing that show before Full House, the Family Man,

702
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: and my mom because I was still a kid when

703
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: I was fifteen or fourteen, my mom said, you have

704
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: an audition after work today, and I was like, what's

705
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: the force.

706
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 5: She said, it's like some cartoon. It's like a cartoon.

707
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: Audition, which I had never gone in an audition for

708
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: a cartoon, and so I remember we went and there

709
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: was like a music stand with the dial, you know,

710
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: and they showed me pictures. They were like, he looks

711
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: like this, and he basically just looked like a kid

712
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: my age. Basically I was like, okay, I think I

713
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: could do that.

714
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: And that was it. I mean, I just you know,

715
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 5: the only interesting thing.

716
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: About that about that audition process was the singing part,

717
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: you know, because people, well some people know, some people

718
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: don't know, and I don't bother. I don't know why

719
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: I'm bringing it up, but I'm not the singing voice.

720
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 5: Of a Laddin.

721
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 6: I didn't know that I had learned.

722
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: I was smart enough to know because I started auditioning

723
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: for things when I was like eights or whatever, and

724
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: I knew if you if they ask you if you

725
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: can do a thing, if you have a certain skill,

726
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 3: then yeah, yeah, I could totally juggle totally.

727
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

728
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: I've been doing it since I was a child.

729
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 5: Really, if they like you enough, they'll they'll get you

730
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: a fire.

731
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: Juggling, right, but they'll figure it out.

732
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: Right.

733
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 5: So they were like, that was a great audition. Can

734
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 5: you sing?

735
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, of course I

736
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: could sing, and they were and they gave me cheap

737
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: music and a tape and everything, and I tried.

738
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: I you know, I thought, I thought they gave you

739
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: sheet music and like an accompanist, and we're like, okay,

740
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: you ready.

741
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 5: They gave me time.

742
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: I had time to prepare, like I worked with a

743
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: coach and like crack, I tried so hard but I

744
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: had no training. But you know, I just I tanked

745
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: it really badly. And but it was one of those

746
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: things where I felt like it was a triumph in

747
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: the sense that I like put my like I just

748
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: sucked it up and I did a thing that I

749
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: knew I couldn't do, and I just went for it yea,

750
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: and I just assumed it was over. But then a

751
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: few months later they called me again and they wanted

752
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: you know, I think they at that point they were like,

753
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: this is our guy, so we have to figure this out,

754
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: like we have to end. And they found a guy

755
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: named Brad Kine who was also a kid actor, who

756
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: was had a stunning voice and sort of say it

757
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: made it sound like mine, you know, in terms of like,

758
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: you know, like I could go from speaking to him

759
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: singing and people couldn't really tell.

760
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: That, right right, You guys have the same sort of

761
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: tonal quality.

762
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so to this day when people say, oh

763
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: my god, you have such a beautiful voice, and I

764
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: just say, oh.

765
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 5: I don't know. It takes too much energy to be

766
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 5: like well.

767
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: Actually well actually yeah, right right right, You're like just

768
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: take the compliment, take the wind, take it, write it down,

769
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: email it to Brad.

770
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: Let him know, you know, like, hey, somebody said thank

771
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 4: you today.

772
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: Are very talented guy, and he's this very successful television

773
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: writer and producer. Like we did the same profession as

774
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: adults too.

775
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: I was gonna see. Yeah, you guys both wound up

776
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: being writers.

777
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: Our paths crossed from time to time, you know, and

778
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: professionally and stuff. But and then I see him at

779
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: all this Aladdin stuff, you know, D twenty three kind

780
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: of thing.

781
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, he's a great guy.

782
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: I have yet to go to a D twenty three,

783
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: and I really want to go because I grew up

784
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 4: at Disneyland. I love Disneyland. I love I mean, I'm

785
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: not you know, John level, but I'm a big I'm

786
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: a big.

787
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.

788
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 3: I mean he, I mean he and his wife they

789
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: let go and put on costume, but they're crazy.

790
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they go cosplay.

791
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: It's the whole, the whole thing. What a Disney bounding,

792
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: That's what it is, where you put up that's so Yeah,

793
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 4: there's a whole where you you dress inspired by but

794
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: not in costume as so like if you it's like

795
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 4: inspired by Bell and maybe it's like a little like

796
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: similar colors and style something like that.

797
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: But anyway, I think Disney is a really good and

798
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: healthy thing to be obsessed with. Like I think, you know,

799
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: like people come up to me all the time and

800
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: they'll be like covered in Disney tattoos and things like that.

801
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: You know, they'll have an Aladdin or a Princess Jasmine

802
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: on their arm or like a bunch of characters. And

803
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: I think it's in terms of like obsessions, it seemed

804
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: it's healthy. I mean, I'm sure, like anything else, you

805
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: can cross the line with it.

806
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you know, to each their own.

807
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's people out there that have our

808
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 4: signature's tattooed on them, which is actually kind.

809
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 5: Of that's true.

810
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

811
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: I remembering at nineties Con I signed that I signed

812
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 4: how Rude, and someone got it.

813
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: I remember a girl came to our taping and I

814
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: signed her leg and then she came back and it

815
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: was there.

816
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was permanent.

817
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you.

818
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 5: Know, I appreciate it.

819
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 3: I think that people, you know, with full House and Disney,

820
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: it's kind of the same thing, and that people grew

821
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: up with it and people feel like it's a.

822
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: Closes tap into that nostalgia.

823
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it brings them back to their childhood and everything.

824
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 5: It's really sweet.

825
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 4: No, you did bring up that you went into writing

826
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: as an adult. What how how did that transition happen

827
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 4: for you? Was that something that happened while you were

828
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 4: at Harvard? Was it something that.

829
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: Happened like late after that or what? Like what made

830
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: you decide to go.

831
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: No, I mean, other than the fact that you hate auditioning,

832
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: what made you decide to go?

833
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it is funny, Like it's such because

834
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: being a TV writer such like a precarious like it's

835
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: like it's pretty much up there with trying to be

836
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: an actor in.

837
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: Terms of like jobs, right, right, it's right, do you

838
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 4: have a job, You don't have a job.

839
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: You have a great job.

840
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but it is an amazing job.

841
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: Like it's sort of like acting where the heart of

842
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: the sucky part of it is trying to get the job,

843
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: and then when you have it, it's pretty much always great,

844
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: you know, even even if they're you know, like there's

845
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: you know sometimes like there's like not perfect scenarios where

846
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: maybe the hours are really bad, or there's somebody in

847
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: the room is really mean or whatever, or you're constantly

848
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: getting terrible notes and having to rewrite the thing a

849
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: million times, and but generally speaking, it's a really fun job.

850
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: It's a great job. And I didn't appreciate it. Like

851
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: when we were kids and the writers would show up

852
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: for run throughs and table reads and they're like they

853
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: looked like such schlubs, and they would laugh way too

854
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: hard at all jokes.

855
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: And I could because they're delirious for eighteen hours.

856
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 5: I'm part of their their you know group. Now. Yeah,

857
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 5: like they just looked really tired.

858
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 4: And exhausted and over it and yeah, they were laughing

859
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: because they were just punchy and yeah.

860
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: And they were cool. I liked talking to them like

861
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: they I liked their vibe, like I liked hanging Yeah.

862
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: But I was never like so what. I never was

863
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: like curious about the profession, really like about it. Didn't

864
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: occur to me that I would ever try to pursue that.

865
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: And by the way, it's a big bummer because Harvard

866
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: is like a feeder for TV writers, you know, for

867
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to be a comedy writer,

868
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: the smartest thing you can do is go to Harvard

869
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: and join the Harvard Lampoon, which.

870
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: Sort of right, I was gonna say.

871
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I had never even occurred to me

872
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: to try, Like I just was not you know, I

873
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: don't know what I thought, but I just.

874
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: Didn't just wasn't in your It wasn't in your It.

875
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 5: Wasn't until the thing.

876
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 3: You know, The funny thing is it was really like

877
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: I had been out of college, maybe for a couple

878
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: full of years already before I decided like, maybe that

879
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: would be a fun thing. Like I think I had

880
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: become friendly with some TV writers and I'd heard more

881
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: about the job and the sort of lifestyle of it,

882
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: and so I started writing specs, which is what in

883
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: those days, what you would have to do. So like

884
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: I wrote an episode of Scrubs, I wrote an episode

885
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: of the King of Queens, you know, like I went.

886
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: In those days, what you had to do is I

887
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: would go to the library at the Museum of Television

888
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: and Radio, which I don't think it's there anymore. But

889
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: and also the writers, I.

890
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: Think, I think there it's not at that location anymore.

891
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, maybe it's somewhere else.

892
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

893
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you could go and you could check out

894
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 3: scripts and you can watch all the episode.

895
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 5: You know, it was pre Netflix or whatever.

896
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: You well, now it's all online.

897
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, act Now you could just sit there in your

898
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 3: pajamas and do it. You know, life is so much easier.

899
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: People don't know how I mean. But there was something

900
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: nice about it too, having a like put on book

901
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: and go somewhere. But so I would watch all the

902
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: King of Queen's episodes and try to like learn the

903
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: show and learn you know, it was really about match

904
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: yeah voices. You know, they wanted to see even if

905
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: you weren't up for a job on that show, they

906
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 3: just wanted to see that you can write somebody else's voice,

907
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 3: you know, somebody else's show. And nowadays it's not really

908
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: done like that. I don't think aspiring television writers write

909
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: specs of existing shows. Now. You want to like write

910
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: an original pilot that makes a splash and gets a

911
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: lot of attention and all that, right, which probably isn't as.

912
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: Good, which is impossible to sell because you've never done anything,

913
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 4: so nobody pays.

914
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 5: Well, no, there is.

915
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: You know a lot of times, you know, something will

916
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: break through and then they'll hire somebody. You know, they'll

917
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: they'll pick up a somebody's never worked in television before,

918
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: and then that's its own kind of disaster.

919
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 5: But you know, but then they'll usually hire.

920
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: Like an experienced showrunner to help SUPERVI co run it

921
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 3: with them or whatever.

922
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: But you worked on the Muppets, though, and I need

923
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: to know everything about it. I am probably as big

924
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: of a Muppet fan as I am of a Disney fan.

925
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 5: Oh, Wow, I didn't know that.

926
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love them up.

927
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 5: That was amazing.

928
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: That was like, that was such a fun job, you know.

929
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: I did that around the time we were starting on

930
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: Fuller House.

931
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: When Fuller House, I remember that, like, how did you?

932
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: I mean, did you write a a what did you?

933
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 3: You know? They had hired a woman named Kristin Newman

934
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: to come on and run that show, and I with

935
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: her on a couple of shows already. We had worked

936
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: together on the show The Neighbors for ABC, and we

937
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: had worked on this show Gallivant, which was a really

938
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: wonderful it was a musical for ABC, and and she

939
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: reached out and asked if I would be interested in

940
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: coming on and working with her on that and and so,

941
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: and it was amazing. It was one of those lucky

942
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: gigs that just sort of fell out of the sky.

943
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: And it was amazing because the writing process was very

944
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: much just like writing a regular show, you know it

945
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: was it was sort of like that show. It was

946
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: like a workplace comedy about muppet right right. You didn't

947
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: really appreciate how crazy it was until you went to

948
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: the set and the whole set is six feet off.

949
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 2: The ground's right.

950
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: I've watched all the like documentaries about the Muppet It's

951
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: in Sesame Street and Jim Henson and stuff.

952
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: You know, like I had known that you had this obsession,

953
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 3: I would have invited you to come down and visit

954
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: the set and everything.

955
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 5: It was.

956
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: Really I would have died.

957
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I Like I remember being a kid and like

958
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: watching Jim Henson's funeral and Big Bird Woman sobbing, Like

959
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: I love Dark Crystal Labyrinth all like I'm a big

960
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: Henson Muppets fan and the Muppet Christmas Carol is the

961
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 4: best Christmas Carol of all time. I will fight someone

962
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: about I love.

963
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: You know, I was always a huge fan of the

964
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: Muppets and like that was it was a really that

965
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: was an amazing job that you know, just like being

966
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: on the set with those and those the pup there,

967
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: you know the voice actors and they're you know, they're.

968
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 5: Not just so talented their puppeteers.

969
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: They like it's a skill set that I don't know

970
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: where they got it. I guess they learned it from

971
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: doing it or something, but it's amazing. Yeah, and everybody

972
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: loves the Muppets. So like if we ever wanted a

973
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 3: big guest star, like we did an episode with them.

974
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 5: Jack White came out like we always.

975
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: Just like never, I know, because the muppets are there,

976
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 4: you can't get anybody.

977
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: You can get any anybody.

978
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 4: Will be like yes for Kermit, I do anything.

979
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly know, exactly right, you know.

980
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: And I remember Jack White from you know, from the

981
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: White Stripes, you know, this episode and then at the

982
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: end he sort of gave the speech like to the

983
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: crew of the you know, and meant to him to

984
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: do this episode, you know, like and like how he

985
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: respected everybody so much as artists and it was really cool.

986
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they're amazing.

987
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean, what they can do is really that was

988
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: so fun. I wish, you know, I ended up writing

989
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: the season finale co writing the season finale of that

990
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: show was but unfortunately it turned out to be the

991
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: series finale.

992
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: I was going to say it was yeah, and I

993
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: was like, there wasn't I killed.

994
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: The show basically, no, But I don't know, you know,

995
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: it was real. It was a very like tough needle

996
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: to thread that show because they wanted it to be

997
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: kind of a dry work, like like the Office kind

998
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: of Rumpets, and I just I just think that like

999
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: maybe with a little more time. I mean I thought

1000
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: that it really found its groove by the end. It

1001
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: was really christ an amazing job running that show, and

1002
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: she really like figured out.

1003
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 5: I mean, it was just wonderful. But you know, it

1004
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 5: just wasn't meant to be.

1005
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I remember the watching the Muppets as a kid,

1006
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 4: and the Muppet even the original Muppet Show was sort

1007
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: of dry humored and kind, you know, if you watch

1008
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: it like it was definitely not kids entertainment necessarily.

1009
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 5: It's true.

1010
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 4: Well, fan of Rito's, we had so much fun speaking

1011
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: with Scott, so we're going to finish up with him

1012
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: in part two of his interviews, So make sure and

1013
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 4: check that out. And if you want to follow us

1014
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Speaker 4: on Instagram, make sure and follow at how Rude Podcast.

1015
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,360
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1016
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 4: you want to hear about what you're loving about the show.

1017
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,880
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1018
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,400
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1019
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1020
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Speaker 4: new episodes right when they drop.

1021
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Speaker 2: And in the meantime, thank you so much.

1022
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: For joining us on another fabulous episode of How can

1023
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: I say, I can say that we did a fabulous episode.

1024
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Speaker 2: That's of course, okay, we did. We did do a fabulous.

1025
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Speaker 4: Episode, and we will see you next week. And remember

1026
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 4: the world is small, but the house is full.

1027
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: It only took you a season and a few episodes

1028
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: to get that right.

1029
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: Don't worry, there's still a couple more to do today.

1030
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: There's the chances are I'll screw it up something