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Speaker 2: George said, who's a better driver? Men or women? Who's

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Speaker 2: the better drive? Old joke?

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Speaker 5: Uh me?

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Speaker 6: And then there are some women that that can drive.

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Speaker 6: But the majority of men are good. The majority of

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Speaker 6: women are bad. They can't even.

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Speaker 2: Pair their part.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, they ast the Austin powers clip.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah that's the.

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Speaker 1: Whoa she gave the wheel. Oh the wheels came up,

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Speaker 1: didn't it. Oh she crashed into the little ball. Lord,

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Speaker 1: have mercy.

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Speaker 2: She never and she take off running. Hey call the cops,

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Speaker 2: leaving the seat and with an accident, failing to render aid.

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Speaker 6: He must have been in toxic kid.

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Speaker 4: Lord HALBERTA, how you drive right into the wall and.

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Speaker 6: You got to you got to learn how to whip.

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Speaker 6: You gotta know how to whip that thing.

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Speaker 2: Lord have boom.

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Speaker 6: Got to bring that thing, bring it, bring it, bring

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Speaker 6: it in and come.

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Speaker 2: On, Lord, have mercy. I mean she she stepped on

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Speaker 2: the gas too too hard. Yeah, she dropped. She dropped. Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I don't know who she worked for,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know if she's gonna be employed tomorrow. Nah.

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Speaker 6: And it's on camera too. She done wrote the people and.

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Speaker 2: She take off Ruddy that's what got ol Joe, she

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Speaker 2: tell you ruddy fail run there.

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Speaker 4: Like what time he's chippering?

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Speaker 2: Oh your wife? Did she took off?

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Speaker 6: Shut your run in?

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Speaker 2: She out of there? Oh Joe?

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Speaker 4: What if she don't? What does she don't work there?

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Speaker 4: What is she don snuff bass security?

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Speaker 6: And to be where she is, they gotta be somebody.

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Speaker 6: Because coach Ryan Day had just walked by too. He

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Speaker 6: was in the car at the front seat. He was yes, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Lord, they got to do somebody in poiser. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: I don't know you're gonna be gainful employed tomorrow. That's

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Speaker 2: just me. So Matthew Stafford's gonna have options. See, that's

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Speaker 2: the thing that you're The more options that you have

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Speaker 2: is to oh Joe. It's just like a relationship. The

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Speaker 2: more options a woman have, the heart of the guy

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Speaker 2: gotta come to impressor if you ain't got no options.

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Speaker 4: The guy.

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Speaker 2: If you got options, you making ten mill you're fifteen million,

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Speaker 2: thirty million a year. You got options. The dude that

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Speaker 2: ain't got no options, Bro, you gotta take whatever whatever?

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Speaker 2: Like you? You got to like her. You don't you

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Speaker 2: get my age? You know you you got a few options.

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Speaker 2: They ain't like they used to be. You don't they

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Speaker 2: don't joke, they ain't the options I used to have

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Speaker 2: without thirty five or whatever. Thirty se you know what

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Speaker 2: you boy about to be pick yourself so you don't everyone, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know you are. You aren't gotta get a straggling necessary,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. On joke, I get gonna

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Speaker 2: keep on one file with y'all. Y'all fellas, Hey, I

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Speaker 2: would be I'm gonna be honest with y'all.

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Speaker 4: Chat.

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Speaker 7: Hey, I ain't got it like that, So you gotta

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Speaker 7: be honest. Oh shae head options. You know all the

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Speaker 7: little dieseled up saying.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? On Joe, make you good?

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Speaker 4: Said my tweety I was my buddies. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: No, you know what I'm saying. Hey, hey, oh Joe,

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Speaker 2: sometimes you know what you like? The boy? I got

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Speaker 2: the body you know on the shelves. It's hand up there.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know, nice tight?

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, I be on Instagram. I see them one

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Speaker 2: like that to come up by a small player, I

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Speaker 2: just go ahead and scroll on up. I know y'all

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Speaker 2: ain't even looking at them. Feature see old solicit. Let

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Speaker 2: me go look at a watch, Let me look, let

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Speaker 2: me look at a car. Something right that I gotta

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Speaker 2: at least I got huh cleans want to say it back,

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Speaker 2: don't Joe, unless man got limitations.

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Speaker 6: It's one thing about knowing limitations, but also understanding that

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Speaker 6: they don't know no better. They don't know no better. Okay,

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Speaker 6: you have to understand those that they're going to give

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Speaker 6: an opportunity to. They're competing with everybody else at a

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Speaker 6: chance to be the main and most of the time,

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Speaker 6: you never would be the main because the guy you're chasing,

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Speaker 6: a guy that have a roster and a hair and wopmen.

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Speaker 2: And they got choices. You know, they call me the

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Speaker 2: poor huse. Look back at the day. I ain't got

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Speaker 2: no answers like that, Yes, sir, you know what I'm saying. Oh,

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Speaker 2: mold cards, you roll down the window. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. You know, I ain't got all them surround

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Speaker 2: signed bulls are hardened, calming, you know, fourteen speakers in

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Speaker 2: the car and all that stuff. I ain't got no defosster. See,

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Speaker 2: I ain't got no thing to burn, you know, large

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Speaker 2: my back, but I ain't. I ain't got all them borrow.

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Speaker 6: Listen he ah ah plays a factor now, I don't

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Speaker 6: think you're gonna stand boy, listen, especially for when they

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Speaker 6: come to women too, and and fellas.

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Speaker 4: If you're gonna get it and get it done, you

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Speaker 4: gotta get it done early.

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Speaker 6: Well, you start hearing your thirties hit thirty five and

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Speaker 6: you hit forty and thinking you still got the oxygen

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Speaker 6: you have when you were younger.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, honey, no wait, boy, listen, you don't.

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Speaker 2: You ain't no sensim like I hate drug. I don't

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Speaker 2: care how fine it is.

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Speaker 4: I don't care how bogy think you look?

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Speaker 2: You still got the box when you're doing twenty What

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Speaker 2: you think? Andy? Oh, Joe, I've been in my thirties. Hey,

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Speaker 2: guess what by fixing I got.

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Speaker 4: Horn man? Yeah, I forgot.

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Speaker 2: I thought I would be a little bit even more

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Speaker 2: attractive what I got on being what I got been.

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Speaker 2: Thomas Jefferson looking on is here, don't even look a

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Speaker 2: little better right now? No, he's still old. Yeah, so.

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Speaker 6: That's why that's why I'm said hung hung the jersey

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Speaker 6: up in the rafters, man, I'm not hung.

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Speaker 2: The jersey up in the rafter. A study by Oxford

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Speaker 2: University researchers found that women typically have five close friends,

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Speaker 2: but lose two of them when entering a new relationship

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Speaker 2: due to reduced time or shifting priorities. However, those losses

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Speaker 2: are often balanced by gaining a new friend, usually through

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Speaker 2: their partner. Professor Robin Dunbar trivits the t the trend

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Speaker 2: to the focused attention on a romantic relationship demands, leading

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Speaker 2: to natural fading of some friendships.

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Speaker 6: I mean, listen, I'm thinking. I can only speak from experience.

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Speaker 6: I can only speak from experience. For me is regards

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Speaker 6: to any relationships I've gotten in throughout the years. My

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Speaker 6: my friend's circle has always been the same. It's always

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Speaker 6: remained the same.

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Speaker 2: Get the same women. Oh okay, I.

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Speaker 4: Should, I should?

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Speaker 2: You're going?

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Speaker 6: I see if you're going with this.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's why they be hating that would

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Speaker 2: be talking about out here. Ain't nothing on you. He

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Speaker 2: keep the feet, y'all tried because y'all be wanting y'all

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Speaker 2: be trying to keep up, keep a clothes.

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Speaker 4: Let us spend time with me, let us be time

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Speaker 4: without yoke.

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Speaker 2: And most of the time.

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Speaker 6: You know what for friend girls, they be single, they

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Speaker 6: be single, and I you know, and man, case you

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Speaker 6: won't go to the club with no more with y'all, right,

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Speaker 6: your single friends will keep those that have boyfriends or

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Speaker 6: They want you miserable with them. They do they get

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Speaker 6: His vice so he could be miserable with them.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I can see that, old Joe. I do, because

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Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, you know they used

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Speaker 2: She want to be booed up with me. You ain't

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Speaker 2: got no time, so oh you too good to hag out? Yep,

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Speaker 2: because I'm in a serious relationship. I'm trying to settle down.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get married, maybe have a kid. A

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Speaker 2: ain't no kid going, ain't no kids jumping off? Maybe

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Speaker 2: when I might can squeeze out one. I don't know

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Oh joke, for get that. You

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Speaker 2: know I might can squeeze out one. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 6: You know you gotta think, especially depending on who you

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Speaker 6: dating after a while. If you're dating after a while,

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Speaker 6: you know, guys will allow that. Women to friend girls

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Speaker 6: go on girl trips. You know, friend girls be going dinner,

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Speaker 6: to go to Allen. You know, I think that healthy

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Speaker 6: for relationships when women can stop. Oh yeah, I ain't

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Speaker 6: got no wrong when that no, you go a hein't

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Speaker 6: want your girl, you don't do your thing? Hey, but

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Speaker 6: just no, they don't mean no good I ain't lied

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Speaker 6: to day. Hey they happened.

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Speaker 2: Now you got a you got a dice line, you

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Speaker 2: got gen wagon, you got this, got this big old house.

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Speaker 5: Go.

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Speaker 2: You ain't got to work. You got somebody clean the

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Speaker 2: house three times a week. You got somebody preparing the meals. Hey,

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Speaker 2: your family taking care of blah blah blah, A.

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Speaker 4: Don't mess that up. Don't mess that up now.

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Speaker 6: Well for you to be out there like them texting

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Speaker 6: three different people to make ends meet. All right, she

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Speaker 6: get the purses, another one, get the shoes.

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Speaker 2: Another one. Yeah, you get flowers once a week. You

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Speaker 6: Matter of fact, I done brought your guard, So you

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Speaker 6: go pick your own flowers.

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Speaker 4: You know, Bay, I got them knee high boots right now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they see some nice winner's cold.

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Speaker 6: Listen, God knew what he was doing when he made

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Speaker 2: Ever. Ain't nothing like of old Joe, a woman that

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Speaker 2: YEA Lord, forgive me for my ways. Tough Mike if

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can remember. It wasn't too long ago. I

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Speaker 8: I was in my office working and I'm confused. I'm

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Speaker 5: There's a white woman running through him for help, screaming

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, So let me ask you a question. Now,

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Speaker 4: What made you guys finally decide to release it?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 5: I actually released the video in our community Facebook group.

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Speaker 5: Of course, there's a lot of trust. Of course, it

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of way, it's a lot of pain

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Speaker 2: I still hear it in your voice.

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Speaker 4: Oh of course.

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Speaker 8: But not once that we got uh.

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Speaker 5: I thought the next day, maybe there will be a

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Speaker 4: I've been in the neighborhood for three years. I built

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Speaker 4: Developers in the neighborhood. I lived in the front of

438
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 4: the neighborhood while I built the house. I walked to

439
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 4: the job site every day. So have I seen her

440
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 4: eye for eye? No, I've walked by her house and

441
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 4: seen them on the front port, so she's.

442
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 8: See when they came, I didn't repugnize.

443
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: Go ahead, ma'am, go ahead, I.

444
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 8: Didn't recognize them.

445
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 5: But but I was gonna say, it's a ninety or

446
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 5: more of the neighborhood is predominantly Caucasian, So where one

447
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 5: of one black family from the neighborhood, and our.

448
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 4: House sits all the way in the back of the neighborhood,

449
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 4: and that people ride by and take pictures every day,

450
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of publicity with our house. So's

451
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 4: it really was. It was shocking. But they stay to

452
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Speaker 4: theyself in the neighborhood.

453
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Will you walk up and

454
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: you ask what can I help you with? And she says,

455
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: is this your house? And you say yeah, and she says,

456
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: I don't believe you when some no one tells you

457
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: they're standing on your porch and they tell that's not

458
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 2: their property, and they tell you that this is not

459
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: your property. What what went through your mind when someone

460
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: is standing on your porch and they say, well, you

461
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: don't live here.

462
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: Well, that's when I was a battle test here as

463
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: a black head, as a man at the presence. That's

464
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: you know, I had to transition and learn how to

465
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 4: put pride and ego to the side and control your emotion. Okay,

466
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 4: that's when I kicked in. That was a that was

467
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: the ultimate battle test because in my mind, I said,

468
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: the audacity, the audacity of her, that was in my mind,

469
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 4: but I couldn't. I had to control my emotions in

470
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 4: the moment because I knew where it could have escalated at.

471
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, well, what if she what if she had

472
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 4: a gun? Would she had been running? Or what I

473
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: have been running?

474
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: Is this a situation? Because now she said, well you

475
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: have to see it from my point of view. No,

476
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't need to see anything from your point of

477
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: view when you standing on your you know what, on

478
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: my porch.

479
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: But for her to say, well, you just say, well

480
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 4: I really live here.

481
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: I live here.

482
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: I don't have to identify myself. This is mine. Why

483
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: do I have to tell you who I am when

484
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: you standing.

485
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: On my property?

486
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: It's I mean, it's it's it's it took everything out

487
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: of you, you know, not to get out of character,

488
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 4: and especially when they came back. You know, she brought

489
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 4: her husband back. He was real stand offen I was.

490
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: I was scared to go outside, but I said on it.

491
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 4: I was listening. I said, I can't let my wife

492
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 4: sit out here with these people. What at the police

493
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 4: pull up? So you know, I went outside and I

494
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 4: just had to make my face numb, and I had

495
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 4: to let them know I do live here, A black

496
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: man does live here. I did build this house from

497
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 4: the ground up. I did design this house. I had

498
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 4: to show my face and so I came outside. You

499
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: can tell they switched it all the way up. Let's

500
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 4: get out of here, let's go. Uh they switched it

501
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 4: all the way up.

502
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: When the police arrived. What did the police say? Okay?

503
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: What what?

504
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: What was the side of the story that they told

505
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: the police? And then what did the police? What was

506
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: the interaction once the authorities arrived.

507
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: I need it in the house. I didn't talk to

508
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 4: the police. I'm not out there with them. Those police

509
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 4: might drum me that.

510
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 9: So you let your wife, So you let your wife.

511
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 9: I'll let her handle that, Okay, what I made. I mean,

512
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 9: I made a report. I made a police report.

513
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 5: It was emotional to make a police report because we

514
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 5: all know what happened, and you call the police. So

515
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 5: I had to think to myself, do I go outside

516
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 5: and start, Do I let them come inside?

517
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: Do I sit up?

518
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 8: Do I stand down? Do I let my son?

519
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: Do I let my son be?

520
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 8: He stand here?

521
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 5: How do iplain this to him? And even blaming and

522
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 5: sharing that this lady rashly profiled as she ran from

523
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 5: her house, braming there's no telling what people conveint. My

524
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 5: son came home from work, who's seventeen, and said, Mom,

525
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 5: what if I was taking out the trash? What if

526
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 5: she had a gun? Like, what's the whole out of

527
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 5: the police here?

528
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: That's crazy?

529
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 8: Hey, but I knew I haven't mad it report.

530
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: Hey.

531
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 6: Despite the difficulties of the situation you've been through, have you,

532
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 6: guys or are you guys moving forward with reclaiming your

533
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 6: sense of safety being that it is home and in

534
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 6: any way despite them not you know, giving sincere apologies

535
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 6: or letting you know that we welcome you here in

536
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 6: our home, especially Hia and the neighbor it selves. Do

537
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 6: you still have hope and motivation to keep sharing your

538
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 6: story from this point on for others that might encounter

539
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 6: these situations and ways they can prevent things from happening

540
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 6: and being able to de escalate those situations.

541
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

542
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: I have nothing against their family, but I grew up

543
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 4: dealing with this all the time. So we still have

544
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: to live here. They live two streets over. We have

545
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 4: to ride by each other's house. I'm okay with being

546
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 4: cordial with riding by each other's out Uh, have no

547
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: issue with them. The issue is getting a word out

548
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: here and letting my situation and what I've been through

549
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: and what I overcome be inspiring to people in the world,

550
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 4: people that look like me. So I'm that's the space

551
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm in, and I'm thankful for God because I didn't

552
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: ask for her to show up on my porch. This

553
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: is God's movement here. This is God telling me that

554
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: people need to hear your stories. You need to inspire,

555
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 4: you need to tell people what's going on and use

556
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: this so that hopefully this won't happen to the next

557
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: person or the next person that comes across the caring situation.

558
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: They won't know how to control their emotion because us

559
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: as black man, especially young black men. We struggle with that,

560
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 4: We struggle with that impulse, with that that acting we have.

561
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: We we we think irrationally, and we never think rationally.

562
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: So I'm here to inspire people. I'm a real estate developer.

563
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: I build houses from the ground up, single family houses.

564
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: But I thought that moving into the most wealthiest neighborhood

565
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: in Ohio, that this was the right thing to do.

566
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: But maybe my focus needs to be building communities that's

567
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: for us, and buy us so that we can inspire

568
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: people that look like us. We can we can build

569
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: a community that for us.

570
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Can ask you a question. You said something very interesting.

571
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: You said, she lives two streets up from you, So

572
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: you mean to tell me she went two streets.

573
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 10: Out of her way to try to find out who

574
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 10: lived in this home. Not on your streets, not not

575
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 10: on your street, not on your block, not next to you.

576
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 10: Two streets.

577
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 4: It's too streets up. But it's she's all the way north,

578
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: we're all the way down. It's more time, million dollar

579
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: house back here. The lights are big, so it's two streets,

580
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: but it's still we could go thirty days, sixteen ninety

581
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: days without seeing each other.

582
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: So she went out of her way. Let me ask

583
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: you this. He issued an apology. She also said that

584
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: she reached out to you and tried to apologize multiple times,

585
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: but she hasn't had a response from you. Has she

586
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: tried to Did she apolog try to apologize to you

587
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: in person or was it through this video that you

588
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: guys have seen.

589
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 8: He has not tried to apologize as a person, be

590
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 8: a phone, via the knock at the door, via a

591
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 8: phone call, be an email. Note only the live videos.

592
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: Now, apparently, if we were to believe what the report says,

593
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: that this woman has a history going back as far

594
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: as twenty eighteen of creating these situations and then making

595
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: herself out to be a victim, have you guys seen that?

596
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: Have y'all seen any of those reports that that's being circulated.

597
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 8: I'm not doing that.

598
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 4: I have not seen Going to ask you this, I

599
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: want to ask you this.

600
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: Have you thought about since your privacy, your security, have

601
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: you thought about potentially even leaving that neighborhood and going elsewhere?

602
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: Or you said, now, y'all not going to run us

603
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: up out of our home.

604
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: I've been in Ohio my whole life, and I faced

605
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: racial discrimination at its highest peak I'm a stereotype person, tattooed, dreadlocks,

606
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: a man that's in the professional world, in the real

607
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: estate development world. That you don't see too many minorities

608
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: building multi million dollar homes. It doesn't happen here. So

609
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: we one hundred percent have thought about moving to another state,

610
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: taking my talents elsewhere, building a community to go on

611
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: places where we could be surrounded by more people that

612
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: look like us.

613
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: Man, So let me ask you a question. What was

614
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: your relationship with the neighborhood? Did you have any interaction

615
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: with your neighbors, Like to the left of you, in

616
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: the front of you, to the back of you, what's

617
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: the neighborhood? Like, I know it's you mentioned, it's a

618
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: very affluent neighborhood. There's a lot of there are wealthy

619
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: people that live there. You mentioned million dollar homes. What's

620
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: the relationship with you in the community other than what

621
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: this said individual.

622
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: So it's the wealthiest neighborhood. And they got it saying

623
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: that once you reach a certain tax bracket, race doesn't matter.

624
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: That's a lie, a lie, but people say that.

625
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: People say that.

626
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: So everybody out here, most majority people out here, they

627
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: walk every day, they take pictures of her house.

628
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: They say hi.

629
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: You can ask people in the neighborhood. Those people are

630
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: not friendly. They don't say hi, they don't take too

631
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: many walks, they don't walk their dog. They stay in

632
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 4: their house. They are staying. Oh, so the neighborhood is friendly,

633
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: but I don't know about them.

634
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: She says something. Ye goyeat, ma'am.

635
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: I was just want to say to participate in community events,

636
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 5: and you know, for the most part, the neighborhood is friendly.

637
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 8: She posted video.

638
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 5: After this happened, and the neighbors brought it to us

639
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 5: because they picked two and two together. So that's how

640
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 5: we even found out that they.

641
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 2: Knew about it. She mentioned to you as you was

642
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: walking up. You have to see her point of view.

643
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: She's walking her kids, is late at night. If you're afraid,

644
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: why are you out at night walking your kids? If

645
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: you afraid as you say you are, did you like

646
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: did that cross your mind? Like, well, if you say

647
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: you're afraid, why you out here the dark by yourself.

648
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: You're married, your husband's not with you, and you got

649
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: a small child. So it can't be that dangerous. You

650
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: can't be that fearful of your life. If you choose

651
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: at night to walk a child.

652
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 4: It's six o'clock in am, it gets dark early. But yeah,

653
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: we thought about that would be worse.

654
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be outside right walk in with no no, no,

655
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 5: not at all, especially if you you know, have been

656
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 5: through things or whatever.

657
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 8: Like I'm not walking that night period.

658
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

659
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 8: This simple was that and it still. If someone tell

660
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 8: me that's their house, all best are off. Okay, let

661
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 8: you know. I'll be scared and you walk walk home.

662
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: That's it.

663
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I just look at things differently.

664
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: I've really never walked by somebody's house, Oh you live here?

665
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: Or I'm not standing on somebody's ports and asking this

666
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: is this their home? If they drive up, I'm in

667
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: the neighborhood, I see somebody in their driveway or somebody

668
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: on the porch, I throw my hand up, I keep

669
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: it moving. I'm not going to stand on someone's ports

670
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: and ask them if they live here.

671
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 4: That's none of my concerned, not just me. Maybe maybe

672
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 4: maybe I'm maybe I don't think I'm unique in that.

673
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: Guys, Oh, we.

674
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 6: Ain't know, pray, we ain't nosy like that, though we know,

675
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 6: we ain't knows he like that man. We see somebody

676
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 6: maybe chunk up the deuce, we say hello and we

677
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 6: keep it moving. The first thing we say we see

678
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 6: a night house boy, that thing that night, saying it right,

679
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 6: and we keep it moving.

680
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: It at it ain't our business.

681
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: You mentioned that you have a seventeen year old son,

682
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: and as black, we have to have that conversation with

683
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: our black young men. Is that we always it's always

684
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: yes sir, No sir, it's yes, ma'am, no, ma'am. When

685
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: you pull get pulled over, look hey, just be as

686
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: polite as you possibly can, because your job is to

687
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: get that man of that woman to your car, back

688
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: to their car and on their way as quick as

689
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: you possibly can. It's not about you know all this

690
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: and all that. We'll fight it in court. Whatever it

691
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: is that they said I was speeding, if I was

692
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: improper lane change, I don't have a tail light, or

693
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: what ready driving. Let's go to court. We can argue

694
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: it in front of a judge in front of twelve people.

695
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: I can't argue. I got to have you make it home.

696
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: Have you had to have that talk with him? Have

697
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: you had it already or did you have to have

698
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: that talk with him immediately after this incident.

699
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, and it was it was emotional, and you know,

700
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 5: it was multiple talk. It was multiple talks, and even

701
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 5: with days where it's like, you know what, I don't

702
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 5: know if you shoot off, fight, unlock our dogs, let

703
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 5: me see make sure you will before it gets start.

704
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 5: It's a lot of weight. It's a lot of weight.

705
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: You've received a lot of overwhelming support from social media though,

706
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's been on your side of social media

707
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: has come to your defense and like the way the

708
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: way you handle it, and you mentioned your situation having

709
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: made some decisions in your previous when you were younger

710
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: and you learned, and you said, look, I gotta channel this.

711
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not gonna give them the ability that

712
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: says I'm angry and I have every right to be

713
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: angry because I'm in dead. I'm in the right here.

714
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: But nobody cares about that because all they're going to

715
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: look as you as a black man, look at your

716
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: history and bring that into the equation when it had

717
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: nothing to do with this woman standing on your porch.

718
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: If you could people, people gonna watch this, this is

719
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: gonna get picked up. If you could say, if what

720
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: would you want people to know about you, your family,

721
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: and how you handle this situation.

722
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 4: I'm a black man in America that's overcame every obstacle

723
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 4: that could be thrown at you, growing up, making bad decisions,

724
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: being around the wrong people, and being given a second

725
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 4: chance to transition, raising a family, being married. My seventeen

726
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 4: year old, I've been there since he was six months.

727
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 4: This is this is this is my It's my son,

728
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: but he's not my biological I've raised him as he's

729
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: my son. I have an eight year old as well.

730
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 4: I'm here to inspire people, to show people that control

731
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 4: your emotion, control your emotions, as that's that's one of

732
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 4: the most powerful things that a man can do, because

733
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: a dangerous man is a man that can't control his emotion.

734
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: So a situation like this that's broadcasting across the world,

735
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 4: you could see that I was given every single reason

736
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 4: to act, and I still control my emotion. So I

737
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 4: want to use this moment, this, these platforms to inspire people,

738
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: lead people, and to show them what a real man

739
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: is and what a real man is supposed to do.

740
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: You take care of your family, protect your family, control

741
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: your emotions, and that's what we're here to do and

742
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 4: also build communities. I want to build houses from the

743
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 4: ground up. I want to build communities. I want to

744
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 4: design high end luxury home These are things that I

745
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: want to do that I got a passion for that

746
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: It's in my bloodline custom custom home builds. My grandpa

747
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: was a custom home designer and builder. These are things

748
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: that I want to take to the next level and

749
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: be known for and show people that in the real

750
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: estate industry that we can strive, we can survived, and

751
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: we can do what they do and even better. So

752
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: that's what I'm here for.

753
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 2: Do you have a sense on when or if you'll

754
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: ever get your normalcy back? Because your life has been interrupted.

755
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: You didn't ask for this, But as you mentioned before,

756
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: God don't put on any more of us from what

757
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: we can handle. He chose you, He chose you for

758
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 2: a reason, and the way you handled yourself in that situation,

759
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure a lot of us because she

760
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: went out of her way. She had no business on

761
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: your porch to begin with you. If she didn't think

762
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 2: you lived there, she could ask that question from the street.

763
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: You don't bring your tail on someone that's front porch

764
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: and then ask me that's not your place. I can

765
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 2: see if you were at her house and you asking

766
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: for a direction and you're like, are you lost? You

767
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: need help? She's in your she's on your property. Did

768
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: you think about pressing charges for trespassing?

769
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: We did, and they they threw it under the rug.

770
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 4: They fired a police that was nothing, and that we

771
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: told them. We asked for the police report. They never

772
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 4: gave it to us. We had to track them down

773
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 4: to get the police report and looked at it.

774
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 2: It was vague.

775
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: We thought about pressing charges.

776
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: We did all that.

777
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: I thought she gave me every right. She's on my

778
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 4: profence direct that's self defense. I could have gotten them down,

779
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: but I had to hold my composed you as a

780
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 4: man for my family, because even though it was self defense,

781
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 4: it could have been self defense, not for a black man,

782
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: not for us.

783
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: Wow, the Michael, thank you for sharing your store with us.

784
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: We really appreciate it. You handled that thing very well.

785
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: To your wife, what's your name, ma'am, Brittany, You and

786
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: the Michael handled it very very well. I'm not so

787
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: sure very many people would have handled it with the

788
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: class and with the poise that you did. You did

789
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: everything right and even though you did everything right, it

790
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: seems like everything is gone wrong. She was wrong for

791
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: coming on to your property. The authorities seem to be

792
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: wrong for how they've handled this situation. Hopefully you get

793
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: the clarity, you get the judgment, the respect that you

794
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: deserve in this situation because you did everything right and seemingly,

795
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: as of right now, things have gone wrong. Hopefully, the

796
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: Nightcap family, everybody that's in this chat, we're praying for

797
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 2: you that you get your sense of peace, you get

798
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: your sense of normalcy, and you get everything that you

799
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: deserve back tenfold because just talking to you, you're a

800
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: good man, writteny, you're a good woman, y'all, a great family, yes,

801
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: and you're doing the right thing. So I tip my

802
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: hat to you for the way you handle this situation

803
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: and continue to be blessed. God's gonna continue to bless

804
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: you because you're a good man and you do great

805
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: things for the community. And I want to thank you,

806
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: Oh Cho and I Nightcap family want to thank you

807
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: for sharing your story with us. Were greatly greatly appreciated.

808
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: This is gonna go out and you're gonna get an

809
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: outpouring of of support. Yes, and it still wouldn't be

810
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: enough for what you guys went through. But I thank

811
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: you for sharing your story here with us on Nightcap.

812
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: Continue to be blessed, continue success, and we'll talk to

813
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: you soon down the road. Andrew Warren said, best friends

814
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: tell you what you need to hear, not what you want.

815
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: Not what you want to hear, they do. I've been

816
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: very fortunate to have those kind of people in my life.

817
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 2: O yoe. Like I said, I got my two best friends,

818
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: Bucket and Burns all a bucket quick to say, oh well,

819
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: I love you, but you wrong in this situation.

820
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's the problem in today's era too. You

821
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 6: got to think about it. Whoever is the golden goose,

822
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 6: most of the time, the people around them are yes,

823
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 6: ment are people that don't have the best interest at herd.

824
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 6: Look at some of the incidents that have happened in

825
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 6: the NFL in the off season.

826
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, all season for a lot a lot of people.

827
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 6: This year, they're gonna be people that get in trouble

828
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 6: on they're gonna peop. They're gonna be people that get

829
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 6: in trouble that have entourages around them that won't tell them.

830
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 6: You know what you're getting ready to do. But it

831
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 6: ain't a good idea. You know what, you've been drinking.

832
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 6: You don't need to drive. You know what, I'm gonna

833
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 6: drive your home. Matter of fact, we're gonna leave a

834
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 6: car here, give me your key, we're gonna take a uber.

835
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll see.

836
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 6: People that don't have their best interest because you know,

837
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 6: you know, if you if you challenge the person who

838
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 6: making the money, that meaning he might cut your water off. Yeah,

839
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 6: so everything is a yes, yes, not telling them what

840
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 6: to do and what's in their best interest. Yeah, bro,

841
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 6: I don't really think you should do that by you know,

842
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 6: I love you, but this ain't it.

843
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

844
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: It's different.

845
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: It is different now.

846
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: And that's the thing on Joe, you're right, you're right.

847
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: I just for me. It's just, uh, I need to

848
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: know that's your job. Your job sometime is to protect

849
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: me from me. Mm hmm.

850
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: Oh that's a hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

851
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 6: That's a good one.

852
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 5: Now.

853
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 6: I got to use that. I got to use that.

854
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: In my next argument. I can use that. But that's

855
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: why it happened. But that's why, oh Joe, that's why

856
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: you have like in certain situations, my partner's supposed to

857
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: protect me. Even if I want to, even if I

858
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: want to waller, She's like, hey, yeah, boy, you ain't

859
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: gonna mess up this money.

860
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 6: Man, that's a good lad I could use like I

861
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna deliver it too.

862
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 2: Yes, she's like, you're not gonna. But I was having

863
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: an argument. She's like, share, let that go right for

864
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: what you willing to risk all that over something?

865
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 4: Petty? Whoa, that's what I.

866
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 6: Have brought you in my life, you know, hoping at

867
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 6: some point with what I envisioned have to explaining my

868
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 6: learned term goals to you, I would miseralize you as

869
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 6: an asset to me.

870
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: Yes, and I can here to be able to protect

871
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: me from myself.

872
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: But this is what you want to do.

873
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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't hegg it off right right there, right there,

874
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: on that spot right there.

875
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Speaker 6: When I give that delivery, I'm gonna let a tear

876
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 6: drop out the right eye, because if the tear drops

877
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 6: out the right eye, that let him know you serious.

878
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey boy, I'm ready.

879
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 6: I got I got that centup.

880
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 4: I got it right here in my notes.

881
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: He had to drop the two point conversion, so he's

882
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: gonna be But I look, they said that when I

883
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 2: used to kill Tony Romo. I didn't like right quarterbacks.

884
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: I kill Aaron Rodgers. I out like quarterback, I kill Baker.

885
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: I didn't like black white quarterback. If I say something

886
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: about it, oh, I don't like black I hate my

887
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: own people. So I can think I'm doing something right

888
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: because y'all say I don't really like anybody. When Mahomes

889
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: doesn't play well, I point that out. Have I not

890
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: pointed out that Mahomes didn't play well? Of course, turnovers

891
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: help you lose a ball game. My point was people like, boy,

892
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: you didn't like Joe Burrow. It ain't got nothing to

893
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: do with like I'm saying, his turnovers is costing his team.

894
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how well you play the volume