1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink, joined 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: by Garrett Downing and Cliff Brown, and we are recording 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: in an emotional time here for the Ravens after the 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: passing of Jacoby Jones, and we just wanted to take 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: some time to remember the life of Jacoby as the 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: three of us all covered him and talk about some 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: of his good times here with the Ravens. And you know, 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: I think we're all stunned, obviously to hear the news 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: of his passing at forty years old. We just saw 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: the guy, you know, a couple of weeks ago out 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: here at Ravens Mini Camp with other Ravens legends, and 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: certainly a stunning and tragic turn of events. 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jacoby is somebody who if you're a 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: Ravens fan, you're a fan of Jacoby Jones like he 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: has been. He is somebody who from the time that 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: he arrived here in twenty twelve, really endeared himself to 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: this fan base, to this city, to this organization. And 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: I think that he just like he was a fan 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: favorite almost instantaneously. I think part of it was performance, 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: of course, he had so many big plays in that 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: Super Bowl run, but personality, like he was a fun 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: person that he was easy to cheer for, and like 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: he became an instant fan favorite, and honestly that extended 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: throughout his entire life. Like Jacoby was a consistent presence 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: here in Baltimore long after his playing days were over, 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: but he felt the love from the city and from 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: the fan base. And I just think that he was 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: He was somebody who so many people have like kind 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: of personal stories and anecdotes and experiences. 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: With all positive like all positive. 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Everybody's got a fun story about Jacobe Jones and the 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: impact that he left on him or her, And I 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: think that that is like what when I heard the news, 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: It was obviously tragic, but I just thought about all 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: of the like all of the people who have great 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: things and experiences and memories of Jacoby. 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jacoby was a people person. I mean he loved people. 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: People loved him. I can't imagine a situation where you know, 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: you see him in the building, you see him in 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: the locker room, and you walk past him and he 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: doesn't say hello. Yeah sometimes yeah, he would be the 42 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: person initiating a conversation, not you. And when he went 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: out in public. It was the same way you know 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: you mentioned like Ravens, fans felt they knew him well, 45 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: A lot of them did, because when you saw him 46 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: out somewhere, he would talk to you. He was one 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: of those guys who was unapproachable. I think people felt 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: like they could approach him because he was such an 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: outgoing guy. So yeah, I mean he was so full 50 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: of life. To think about him, you know, passing away 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: at forty, it is stunning. As Ryan mentioned, we just 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: saw him recently. He was a guy that every day 53 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: I think he brought a smile to someone's face. And 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 3: he's going to be missed because people felt that connection 55 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: to him. No matter how well you knew him. He 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: was a guy that once you met him, he left 57 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: an impression on you. 58 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: I think the way I sum it up is that 59 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: Jacoby is a guy who always captured the moment right 60 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: like off the field and on the field. Off the field, 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean just whenever the spotlight was on Jacoby, I mean, 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: he performed right. He was a character. That's just who 63 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: he was, right like when he was doing an interview, 64 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: when he was just talking to you one on one, 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: like he was in the moment and living it with 66 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: joy and fun, and like, I think that's an awesome 67 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: way to live your life. And then on the field, 68 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: same thing. I mean, when the stakes were highest, you know, right, 69 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: you're a kick returner, you're a punt returner, that ball's 70 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: coming down, everybody's runn at you. Like he captured the moment. 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: Some of the biggest moments in Raven's history were because 72 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: of Jacoby Jones. Yeah, and like, I just love the 73 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: way that he lived his life in that way of 74 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: spreading joy, living life with joy, and he just welcomed 75 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: everybody into that, right, And I mean even this recent 76 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: time that we just saw him a few weeks ago, 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was like a magnet to all 78 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: the other former Ravens legends. Like, I mean, everybody was 79 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: kind of hanging around with Jacobe and yucking it up 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: and laughing, and he was just the life of the party, 81 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, the party of life. Like he was the 82 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: life of that party, you know. And so yeah, it's 83 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: it's it's tough to see somebody like that, you know, 84 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: it ends so soon, obviously, And so I think. 85 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: The other thing I would say too, And when Cliff 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: talked about how everyone kind of felt like you knew him. Yeah, 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: I think that like in an era where it's like 88 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: professional athletes are like less accessible because it's just harder, 89 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: you know, in the sense of. 90 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: Like physically accessible. 91 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: They're accessible on social media and stuff, but I think 92 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: that like it's just harder to interact with professional athletes 93 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: because the stakes are so high and it's such a 94 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: big business and all that stuff. Like Jacoby was incredibly 95 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: accessible and even just like I felt like after the 96 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: news like broke, I saw so many photos of fans 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: and even Raven's employees who all had pictures with Jacoby 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: from over the years, and it was like everybody felt 99 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: like they knew him, Like he felt like he was 100 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: a member of the family. And that's not you know, 101 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: that's not the case for every player, current or former. 102 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: And like his his ability to be accessible in an 103 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: era where that's really challenging, he was comfortable with that. 104 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: He embraced it. He made everybody feel welcome. Like just 105 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: we're talking about when we saw him few weeks ago 106 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: at Mini camp, Like he comes back and it's DAPs 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: and hugs and stories and Cliff and I you and 108 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: I talked to him for a while about you know, 109 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: he had he'd recently been hired as a head coach 110 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: and offensive coordinator for you know, an indoor football league, 111 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: and he was talking about that challenge and experience there, 112 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: and you know it's it's obviously so sad, but I 113 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: think that like it it felt like when you see 114 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: like your your friends from high school who you haven't 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: seen in a long time, Like whenever you saw Jacoby 116 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: and like you see your old buddies, and it was 117 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: like hugs, and like how you been. That's catch up, 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: and you kind of right back to where it's always been. 119 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: That's with like every Ravens, everybody, every Ravens employee, everyone's 120 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: got his corporate sales, marketing, community relations, public relations. I 121 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: mean like every department. Jacoby had friends throughout this entire 122 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: organization and throughout this whole city. Like I think it 123 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: was a special relationship. Also because Jacoby's time in Houston 124 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: didn't really go all that well, right, and like there 125 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: were some some gaffs and and and then he comes 126 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: to Baltimore and was kind of a little bit raw, 127 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: a little bit like hurt as a player, his confidence 128 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: and whatnot. And then he came to Baltimore and he 129 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: was making plays and and the personality then was able 130 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: to shine through because he was having success on the 131 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: field and it just all worked right, and like the 132 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: city loved him, He loved the city. It was just 133 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: this beautiful blossoming of a relationship to that point. 134 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: I actually the last interview that I did with him 135 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: was during the Ravens playoff game against Houston this year. 136 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: He was being honored at that game, and before the game, 137 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: we did an interview on Ravens Walk And typically these interviews, 138 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's you're playing to the crowd, you know, 139 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: how excited are you to be back? 140 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: Let's go. 141 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: We're excited the best fans of the world. 142 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: You know. 143 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: Like that's kind of the vibe of the interview, and 144 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: when I was talking with Jacoby, and there was elements 145 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: of that, but he went into just how much and 146 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: the Ravens were playing Houston in that game, so he 147 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: went into how much coming to Baltimore meant to him 148 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: and how much the fan base and the organization, and 149 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: he teared up. He got emotional during this interview, and 150 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: I was like, wow, Like I didn't expect that. I 151 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: didn't realize that we were going to go kind of 152 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: go there but that to me like just shared insight 153 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: into like how much he really loved playing for this 154 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: team and playing in the city, especially coming from where 155 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: he was. He said at that time, like, I was 156 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: at a low point in my career coming from Houston, 157 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: and this city picked me up and it built me 158 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: back up, and it made me the man that I am. 159 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: Today and I was changing. 160 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: Wow, like this is and and I thought, I immediately 161 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: thought about that conversation because you know, this was this 162 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: was somebody who like he meant a lot to this team, 163 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: and this team and the city and these fans meant 164 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: a lot to him. And it was just this like 165 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: this this mutually beneficial relationship and partnership, and it was 166 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: something that he carried with him and it meant a 167 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: lot to him even long after his his career was over. 168 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So we wanted to take some time 169 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: and talk about some of the highlights of Jacoby's time 170 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: here with the Ravens, and I think, right, you have 171 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: to start start with the mile High Miracle, right and 172 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, that's that's one of those moments 173 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: that is just forever ingrain in my head. I mean, 174 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: if there's one moment anybody asked me, oh man, what's 175 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: been the best part of your fifteen years of the Ravens. 176 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: It was that moment, right, I mean, in the Denver 177 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: press box. I just still remember, like I had this 178 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: story written that the Ravens lost this epic shootout with 179 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: the Broncos and just like, oh my god, what a 180 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: heartbreaking loss, but like you took solace in the fact 181 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: that they went toe to toe with Peyton Manning and 182 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: the best team in the league, you know, seemingly at 183 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: that time, and it was I had it, I had 184 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: it ready to send, and it was just down on 185 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: the dumpson and then that play happened, and it was 186 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: just like I still remember my boss Michelle Andres behind me, 187 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: just like going back and forth, pacing saying what just happened, 188 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: What just happened? What just happened, And it was just like, 189 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, like Jacoby and Joe just saved the year, 190 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, and it was just an increase. I mean, 191 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: I can just still see that play in my mind's eye. 192 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: It was like a punt. I think that that's how 193 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: he was able to make the play and the Broncos 194 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: safety wasn't was because like he was a returner, right, 195 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: and Joe through that thing a mile high and then 196 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: he just came under it like he was fielding a punt. Yeah, 197 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: and uh just I mean incredible goosebumps still to this day. Yeah. 198 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: I mean I wasn't even working for the Ravens then, 199 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: I was working for Sporting News, but I was at 200 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 3: that game and I remember how darn cold it was 201 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: and thinking, well, this is like you said, this is 202 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: going to be it. You know, the Ravens gonna lose. 203 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: Manning's moving on. And then I remember the silence of 204 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: the stadium except for the you know, the Ravens always 205 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: traveled well, so he heard a few Ravens fans, but 206 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: for the most part, the stadium was in stun silence. 207 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: And Jacoby, h I mean want a play. That's what 208 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: the play you could watch over and over, like how 209 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: did he do that? How did Jill make that throw? 210 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 3: You talked about the adjustment with Jacoby, and yeah, we'll 211 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: talk about more moments with Jacoby. But Jacoby's one of 212 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: those guys who he had game speed. I call it that. 213 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: It seemed like he ran his fastest, was at his 214 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: best in games, and there was a guy there was 215 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: a guy I grew up with who ran track. He 216 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 3: was fast, but there were other guys faster than him, 217 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: but in games, nobody caught him. And I was like, 218 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: why why is that? He's like, well, I can only 219 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: run that fast if somebody's chasing me. That's how Jacoby 220 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: was when he got behind a defense. He wasn't getting caught. 221 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: He was so slippery. Yes, we even contron that long 222 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: body of his right right. 223 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: But if he doesn't make that play, obviously the Ravens 224 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 3: don't win that game, don't win that super Bowl. I mean, 225 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: not only was it an incredible play, the magnitude of 226 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: it in hindsight. I mean, the Ravens had had other 227 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: close defeats in the playoffs. That would have been another 228 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: one for that era of team. And because of that play, 229 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: all those guys, you know, guys like Ed Reid and 230 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: Terrell Suggs and Joe who had been denied a Super 231 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: Bowl championship had it not been for that play by 232 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: Jacobe Jones, who knows, you know, they. 233 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Don't go on. 234 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: I know. 235 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: You wouldn't have gotten their rings. 236 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, and I think that's obviously with Ravens fans 237 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: and teammates. That's another reason why he's so beloved because 238 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: in that moment that they had to have a play, 239 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: he made it. 240 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's probably the most famous iconic play 241 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: in Raymonds history. You know that that's the play for 242 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: you to think about it like that's the play. And 243 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: when you think about that whole run to the super Bowl, 244 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: the whole team of destiny, like a lot of you 245 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: think about ray Lewis's last ride, and that of course 246 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: was like the headliner. But like the plays in the 247 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: moments that Ja Kobe made in that run to that 248 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: Lombardi Trophy were all iconic, and like he is, he 249 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: is a huge reason that they're evens have a second 250 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: Lebardi Trophy in the lobby, like a huge reason. And 251 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: it's like, I mean, we can continue conversation into that 252 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: super Bowl. Like the super Bowl with him was so 253 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: significant on multiple fronts. The first is that like it 254 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: was back in New Orleans and he was his home. 255 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: It was his hometown, he was from New Orleans and 256 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: like it felt it felt like homecoming. I didn't even 257 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: I don't even remember this clip, but I saw it yesterday. 258 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: It was a clip of him before he was on 259 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: the Ravens two years before he was on the Ravens 260 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: doing an interview with news outlet in New Orleans. It 261 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: was him and Mark Ingram was two years before he 262 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: was a raven and he said, the Super Bowls in 263 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: New Orleans and twenty twelve and I'm going to go 264 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: there and I'm going to win the Super Bowl lare 265 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: And he wasn't even on the Ravens yet. 266 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: It was crazy. 267 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: But like that whole week it felt like his homecoming. 268 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: He had the whole team like over to his house 269 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: and his mom. Remember at he his mom like cooked 270 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: from the team. It felt like almost like a high 271 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: school like it felt like That's kind of how it 272 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: felt like that dinner before the game. Seriously, how I 273 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: felt and like his mom like he embraced that. He 274 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: felt like the team has come into my hometown and 275 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 2: I want to show everybody New Orleans like him and 276 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: Edie were both from New Orleans. Both really embraced that. 277 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: But Jacoby and his mom being there at the center 278 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: of all of it, like that was that was part 279 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: of the the experience of the week in New Orleans. 280 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And then of course I mean 281 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: the game two touchdowns in the game, and one is 282 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: receiving and the kickoff return to start the second half, 283 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: which you miss because you were getting nachos. I got hit. 284 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: I believe that I wasn't there, but I believe. 285 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: That, you know. I mean, there were a lot of 286 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: people saying at the time and after that he should 287 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: have been and easily could have been the Super Bowl MVP, 288 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, I mean Joe obviously the epic run, you know, 289 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: and and to Jacoby's credit, like as modest as he was, 290 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: he never you know, made that a thing at all. 291 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: He was like my guy, Joe. You know, he deserved it, 292 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, but he certainly could have won it. I mean, gosh, 293 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: setting the tone just to start the second half, you're 294 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: just like we're we're still rolling, let's go right, And 295 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: and that receiving touchdown was just popping back up to 296 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: his feet and scampering in there. That's only Jacoby, could, 297 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, I mean just I mean, that game for 298 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: him was epic, and and the fact that it was 299 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: in his hometown just added to it. And the touchdown 300 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: dances too. He did his tax to chop a city chop. 301 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: He also broke out the Ray Lewis he had had 302 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: second one plan for that game, which was Ray Lewis's 303 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: dance after the kickoff return. 304 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I can still picture the dance, the kind 305 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: of the deal in the car. It was the deal 306 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: in the cards and the jackknife me with the end. 307 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: He tried to teach me that in in the locker room, 308 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: like I think several times, and you know I would 309 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: do my best. But Ray's dance was a lot easier 310 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: to do than Jacoby's chop a city. Yeah, but yeah, 311 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean that that super Bowl again, if he doesn't 312 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: make those plays, you know, they don't get that lead 313 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: and the Ravens probably don't win, right. 314 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: I mean, Jacoby, we talked about, you know, how it 315 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: comes to the moment as entertainer. When you talked about 316 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: the dance, I'm thinking about the whole dancing with the 317 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: stars thing. I mean, he you know, he's not like 318 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: the marquee player, like a quarterback or you know, one 319 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: of the very best players in the NFL. But that 320 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: side of being an entertainer, I think they obviously picked 321 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: up on that to invite him to do something like that, and. 322 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: He's that's the type of guy. 323 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: It seems like things like that happened to guys like Jacoby, 324 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: Like they show up places you know, they you see 325 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: them places where you don't expect. Everyone wants to be 326 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: around them. You know, if I was trying to get 327 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: in a place I didn't belong, I would take Jacoby 328 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: with me. He could talk his way into this Hollywood premiere, 329 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: into this club. If I bring to Kobe, I got 330 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: a good shah, yeah, I'm put Jacoby. Oh yeah, come 331 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: on man. Yeah, he was that type of guy. So yeah, 332 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: I mean it's something that you know, a guy who 333 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: never was a thousand yard receiver but made so many 334 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: big plays. You know, wasn't like the top end of 335 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: face of the NFL, but he's on Dancing with the Stars. 336 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: People just loved being around Jacoby, whether it was like 337 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 3: you know, a fan walking down the street, celebrities you 338 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: know who, didn't matter who it was. When he walked 339 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: in a room, people gravitated to him. It's just something 340 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: that you can't teach. Some people have it, some people don't, 341 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 3: and he had it. And you know, again at age forty, 342 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: it's really you know, to me, it's so sad he 343 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: didn't get to live longer, but he did get a 344 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: lot of life in his life. I mean he packed 345 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: a lot of things into those forty years, that's for sure. 346 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: Didn't you go out and see him? 347 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I went out to La with Dancing 348 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: and the Stars with him, and again, I mean he 349 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: was in rehearsals, you know, and like he and Karna 350 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: smeared Off was his part dance partner, and I mean 351 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: they just hit it off immediately, right, and she just 352 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: loved him. I mean everybody, everybody, and you know Jacoby 353 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: could always deliver that line too. That was also what 354 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: made him great for TV. Right, And they went to 355 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: Jacoby with the camera, like he delivered a line that 356 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: made you laugh. You could just always count on it. 357 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, they're like, put the camera on Jacoby, He'll 358 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: give us something good, right, And like, I mean the 359 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: line that I always remember was a polar bear? Does 360 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: a polar bear poo on ice? Was like the classic, 361 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: the classic Jacoby. Right, if you ask him any question 362 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: and there's an the obvious answer was yes, he would respond, 363 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: does a poll poo on ice? Like that was just 364 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: Jacoby was just a goof right, And like, yeah, Dancing 365 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: with the Stars, like he had a blast out there, 366 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: and like he was again so accessible. That's one of 367 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: the off the field, away from the locker room memories 368 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: that I have with him, was like we were just 369 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: chatting it up and he was so happy to have 370 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: like his family out there, his mom out there and 371 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: be able to show her La and have a good 372 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: time and like, yeah, he was just having a ball 373 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: with it and he made it pretty far. I can't 374 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: remember how far it was. Yeah, he did really well 375 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: for being a guy that like, you know, he could 376 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: do the chop of city. He wasn't used to the waltz, right, 377 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: that was not his dancing background, but he did great. 378 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did, and it was fun like that whole 379 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: he I think it goes back to the point you 380 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: made about like him embracing the moment like on and off. 381 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: The field, like after that Super Bowl he was you know, 382 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: he was. He was that was that was a celebrity time. 383 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: That was his Simon. 384 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: Spotler, and he maximized it and then he just seemed 385 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: to enjoy it and and it was it was just 386 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: fun as for I think for Ravens fans to watch him. 387 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean on the field, the Snow game, I 388 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: mean the Snow the return against the Vikings in the 389 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: Snow that it wasn't the game winner, but that one 390 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: forced overtime I think it was that. I mean that 391 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: that that game was insane. And John Harball, that's like 392 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: one of John Harball's favorite stories is talking about the 393 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: return in that game because Jacoby was in the back 394 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: of the end zone, like talking to his mom back 395 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: in the episode and they're like, Jacoby, the play, remember 396 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: the play? Yeah, come up, come up and he's like, 397 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and you're like and so that's how he 398 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: got a running started it because it was all the 399 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: way back in the back and he caught it on 400 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: the run and then just took it up the sideline 401 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: for the touchdown. And uh yeah, that's Jacoby in a 402 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: nutshell right there. He's too busy talking to his mom 403 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: having fun in the back. 404 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: That was a full Jacoby. 405 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: That really was. 406 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that it is crazy as we're talking about this, 407 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: like when you think of like just big Ravens moments 408 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: like in history and games and moments that you remember, 409 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: like he was at the center of so many of them. 410 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: The Super Bowl, the Mile High Miracle, the Snow Game, the. 411 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: Snow Game, which was our fans voted as the greatest 412 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: home game in Empty Bank Stadium history. 413 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: Even in that Super Bowl run, that game against Dallas. 414 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: You know, he had the kickoff return of that game, 415 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: which they probably don't win that without that kickoff return. Ye. 416 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: And then the other one was the play along the 417 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: sidelines the Mike Tollin. 418 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Like Tomin that's right, jumping in front of him like 419 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: and and that prevented a touchdown. 420 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: But that was again when you're thinking about, like what 421 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: are plays you remember about the Ravens, like we where 422 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: were you were you at this game? Like that type 423 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: of stuff, Like he was at the center of so 424 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: many of these plays. 425 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: And he had another He had a punt return for 426 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: a touchdown against the Steelers. 427 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: In Pittsburgh in on the in the Super Bowl season 428 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. Yeah, and they don't win that game. That 429 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: was the only touchdown they had that game, I believe, I. 430 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: Don't remember exactly, but another epic play. I mean, he 431 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: made some plays against the Steelers too. You want to 432 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: enjoy yourself to Ravens fans make big plays against the Steelers. Yeah, 433 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: it's another good way. Yeah. Yeah, I mean he just 434 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: wrote he always rose to the moment, it felt like 435 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: and and and that was really the thing that he 436 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: didn't do in Houston, right, is he didn't rise to 437 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: the to the occasion, and he did it here and 438 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: that just got it unlocked in Jacoby Jones that we 439 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: all got to see the true beauty of Jacoby. 440 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, thinking about Pittsburgh, I used to love Jacoby always 441 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: called Mike Tomlin Mike Tomlinson. 442 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: That was like. 443 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: You just add on extra syllable for whatever reason, that 444 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: Jacoby style. 445 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: And also, yeah, Jacoby Lane College. 446 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: I'm reading reading all this Kobe stuff now, I had 447 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 3: to look up where Lane College is. Okay, number one 448 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: and Jackson, Tennessee, which I thought maybe was in New 449 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: Orleans or something. But yeah, he was not you know 450 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: at that point in his life. You know, as a 451 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: nineteen twenty year old kid, he was not expected to be, 452 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: you know, an NFL wide receiver making all these plays 453 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: in playoff games and Super Bowls. So I think that's 454 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: another reason Gary we're talking about, you know, when he 455 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: got emotional with your last interview with him, because he 456 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: never took it for granted. I don't think he was 457 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: a fun loving guy, but I don't think he took 458 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: the thing that happened to him. The good things that 459 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: happened to him is NFL career for granted, because he 460 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: wasn't this stud who everyone was saying, you know from 461 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: fifteen years old, oh yeah, you got a chance to 462 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 3: make an NFL. 463 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: He was not. 464 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: So when he got here, you know, after the experience 465 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: in Houston, I'm sure he wasn't sure. 466 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: Who could have. 467 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 3: Envisioned when he first got here that all these things 468 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 3: would happen to Kobe Jones. He didn't, So when he 469 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: was experiencing them, he enjoyed them in the moment, you know, 470 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: because he knew that this didn't happen to happen for me. 471 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: And yeah, I came to Baltimore, perfect, perfect situation. He 472 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: took full advantage of it. And yeah, he just loved 473 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 3: he loved doing it, I think as much as we 474 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 3: loved watching it. 475 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that play the Steelers Mike Tomlin play, that one 476 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: is just a really funny one. Of course, the Ravens 477 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: won that game, so it's like a player you could 478 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: laugh about how they know won that game, but a 479 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 2: bit a different feeling about that play. But that one 480 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: just cracks me up because you know, I remember as 481 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: it was unfolding Kobe gets tackled, which like you never 482 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: saw him get caught, right, He's gone as soon as 483 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: he saw daylight, he was gone. And then he's like 484 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: pointing back at Tomlin and you're like what, and then 485 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: you realize, you realize what happened, And like I just thought, like, 486 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: of course, of course that play happens to Jacoby because 487 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: it's just like it's like part of it is like 488 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: him and his fun loving nature and like the comedy 489 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: of it all. But then there's also like the big 490 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: play aspect of it, and like the big moment aspect 491 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: of it. I just think it's funny that that play 492 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 2: happened to him, And well. 493 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin obviously respected Jacoby Jones. He was a Steeler 494 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: at the very end of his career, and you know, 495 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: I'll just never forget like being in the stadium for 496 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: that moment and our our team up in the booth 497 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: like replaying it like slow mo obviously because it was 498 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: like a long break. I don't know if it was 499 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: a commercial break, yeah, but there was a long break 500 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: right after that happened, and they're just like replaying it. 501 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: So it's plain as day what happened on the field. 502 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: Everybody saw what happened in Jacoby's like like on the 503 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: side and Tomlin's like laughing, and the whole like he's 504 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: just snickering Tomlin on the sideline, the whole stadium's like 505 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: just losing its mind, I mean, booing, chanting, and like 506 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: Jacoby's credit, like he also like there was never any 507 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: like I just don't feel like there was a mean 508 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: bone in Jacoby's body, right, Like there was never like, oh, 509 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: Toma would a cheater whatever, Like he like was in 510 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: on the fun and the joke and like there just 511 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: wasn't like there never felt like there was a negative 512 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: bone in his body, which in today's day and age 513 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: is so rare. Also you talk about the accessibility, but 514 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: like just like the ability to like he never said 515 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: a bad word about anybody, it felt like, you know, 516 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: and to like just have fun with everything that was 517 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: uniquely Jacoby. 518 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that uh, that's funny. Like I'm thinking about that 519 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: game too. That was a night game. I can't remember. 520 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 3: It was Thursday night, Monday night, Sunday. 521 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: Night, primetime. 522 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 3: It was a prime time. I'm like, man if if 523 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: Jacoby had played nothing but night games and playoff games, 524 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: see like whatever, it was. 525 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: A big stage. Yeah, yep, he was there. It kind 526 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: of just fits his whole thing. That's that's Jacoby yep. 527 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I agree. I just think that he 528 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: is when the moment was the biggest. As we said, 529 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: he rose to the ocasion. 530 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Very cool. So uh fun to look back on 531 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: Jacoby's life. Obviously tragic time here for the Ravens organization 532 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: as we all more in the loss of Jacoby thoughts 533 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: and prayers, certainly thinking of everybody in his family and 534 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: his wide wide circle that he built over his life. 535 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: If you have any memories of Jacoby that you'd like 536 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: to share with us, please do email us at the 537 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot. We'd love to hear 538 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: from you as we all kind of process the death 539 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: of Jacoby Jones. Thanks for listening. We'll be back with 540 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: you later this week.