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Speaker 1: a day I have never seen. There's no other way
Speaker 1: to put it. CEOs come and go. When everybody wants
Speaker 1: to say to me, when did you lose money? This
Speaker 1: is not funny. There was a CEO of a company
Speaker 1: I owned who had a significant coronary event at a
Speaker 1: small airport in Chicago, and to be honest, I sort
Speaker 1: of sold every share the day of that tragedy at
Speaker 1: O'Hare because six months later the company was in massive
Speaker 1: disarray and I'm not going to mince words. I lost
Speaker 1: some money, to say the least. There are times where
Speaker 1: you see a shock of a CEO impact, and so
Speaker 1: the Chipotle CEO down fourteen percent, goes over to Starbucks
Speaker 1: up fourteen percent. Whatever the number is, up twenty percent.
Speaker 1: Let's use the word number twenty So you have a
Speaker 1: thirty four percent swing in stock performance off a CEO.
Speaker 1: Jody Lurie of Bloomberg Intelligence is expert on this, and
Speaker 1: she knows when there's activist shareholders involved debt beware.
Speaker 2: We are still sort of trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2: But usually when there's activists investor involved, you don't really
Speaker 2: think that's a good thing for bondholders. The company worked
Speaker 2: really hard to get leveraged down to three times and
Speaker 2: actually below three times, but now the expectations are that
Speaker 2: leverage is going to hit at three point four to
Speaker 2: three point five times by the end of their fiscal year,
Speaker 2: which in September, and that's partially because of margins. But
Speaker 2: I think we do have that sense that that twenty
Speaker 2: billion dollars that they plan to give back to shareholders
Speaker 2: over the next few years, it might it might get
Speaker 2: ratcheted up, or they might get more aggressive in other ways,
Speaker 2: or they might look to spin offs. I mean, who
Speaker 2: knows what's on the table. All we know is that
Speaker 2: there might be a potential additional board member from Elliott Management.
Speaker 2: There might be all sorts of changes that changes from
Speaker 2: that stable sort of cash generating Starbucks that we know.
Speaker 1: Jody Leuri, Bloomberg Intelligence, and Starbucks' story clearly to unfold
Speaker 1: in the coming days. On the way that the average
Speaker 1: cost the Capitol screen, the WACC screen in the Bloomberg
Speaker 1: twenty two percent debt, don't hold into that, but I
Speaker 1: think that's what the statistic is. Twenty two percent. One
Speaker 1: of the great joys of our wonderful studios with their glasses.
Speaker 1: People wander by and I'll usually try to beg them
Speaker 1: to come in, and many people say no, they don't
Speaker 1: want to talk to me. We are honored today that
Speaker 1: Rubinstein would stop by for a few precious moments. Of course,
Speaker 1: with the Carlisle Group his ownership of the Baltimore Orioles
Speaker 1: here first. David Rubinstein on the travails of private equity.
Speaker 3: Private equity has been around for a while. It's taken
Speaker 3: longer to sell assets than it normally does. But as
Speaker 3: interest rates come down, almost certainly they'll come down in September.
Speaker 3: I think it'll make it easier because the gap between
Speaker 3: buyers and sellers will, I think, be reduced, and buyers
Speaker 3: can afford to buy things more readily than they could
Speaker 3: when higher interest rates were part of the situation. So
Speaker 3: I think private equity is okay. I wouldn't cry for
Speaker 3: private equity. I think that private credit has also grown
Speaker 3: very large and become a very important part of the
Speaker 3: private investment world. But private equity is still a very
Speaker 3: important part of the global investment scene, and I don't
Speaker 3: think it's going to change very much.
Speaker 1: David Rubinstein and private equity and to see the Vicks
Speaker 1: folks just to review this under twenty today to a
Speaker 1: nineteen level as we tape here at roughly ten am
Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning. But the ride of the last number
Speaker 1: of weeks, the resiliency of this market is both David
Speaker 1: Rubinstein and Barry Rudtholtz talked about, is just shocking to
Speaker 1: see us go from a Lehman thirty angst or the
Speaker 1: panic of last Monday, that Paul Sweeney report of a
Speaker 1: fifty something meter VIX and we're now down under twenty
Speaker 1: with a nineteen print in the vicinity of up one
Speaker 1: percent for the NASDAK even one and a half percent
Speaker 1: for the Nasdaq. Of course, with David Rubinstein here, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry. The Chicago White Sox absolutely crushed
Speaker 1: the dreaded Yankees. David Rubinstein and the dreaded Yankees of
Speaker 1: the Bronx in the Jewel of Camden Yards.
Speaker 3: Well, the Oriols and the Yankees have been chocking for
Speaker 3: first place in America in the East for most of
Speaker 3: the season. They both have excellent teams. We'll just have
Speaker 3: to see who does well in September and the remainder of
Speaker 3: August but I think both of those teams are likely
Speaker 3: to be in the playoffs. In my view, Yankees have
Speaker 3: some extraordinary players in the Yanks, and they also have
Speaker 3: some extraordinary players.
Speaker 1: Their ability to lose to the Chicago White Sox. I
Speaker 1: don't know if your team is briefed you, but the
Speaker 1: White Sox snuck by the Yankees last night. That would
Speaker 1: never happen to the Baltimore Orioles.
Speaker 3: Well, we've lost some games, and I didn't think we
Speaker 3: would lose. But on the whole, oh, I would say
Speaker 3: the Orioles and the Yankees are really in good shape
Speaker 3: for the playoffs. And I don't know who's gonna win,
Speaker 3: but I hope the Oriols do.
Speaker 1: Of course, he's been doing this for a cup of coffee,
Speaker 1: a cup of Senka, or a cup of Starbucks for
Speaker 1: that matter. David Rubinstein, grizzled, owner of the Baltimore Orioles.
Speaker 1: He's got the thing. He's got it down cold. It's
Speaker 1: like he's out there, you know, outside the dugout with
Speaker 1: a mic and his mouth saying, you know, well, we
Speaker 1: saw the ball. I could see the ball big today.
Speaker 1: It was great, you know, David Rubins, I thank you
Speaker 1: so much. For time. Today they're in private equity in
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Orioles. John Ferrell emailed me to these says,
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