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Speaker 3: by Nick Eatman from Dallascowboys dot Com. As always, we've

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Speaker 3: got the three time Super Bowl champion, six time Pro

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Speaker 3: bowler Nate Newton, Yeah yeah, and our special guest tonight

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Speaker 3: won state titles in basketball and football. He walked on

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Speaker 3: at Boise State and became one of the greatest players

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Speaker 3: in school history, earning Mountain West Defensive Player of the

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Speaker 3: Year in twenty seventeen and become the first round.

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Speaker 4: Pick of the Dallas Cowboys at twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: He spent six seasons with the Cowboys, where he was

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Speaker 3: named a Pro Bowler and second team All Pro during

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Speaker 3: his time. Please welcome Leighton VANDERSH.

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Speaker 4: Laton. Thanks for joining us. Man.

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Speaker 5: You just do that right?

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Speaker 4: What was I missing one of them? I covered it?

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Speaker 4: You covered your job.

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Speaker 5: I thought.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was really good.

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Speaker 6: Awesome.

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Speaker 7: Is that the how they used at the stadium with you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think so pretty similar. What's up, man, No, it's good.

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Speaker 6: I'm appreciative that you guys are having me on here.

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Speaker 6: So I was looking forward to it all week.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's we were mentioned in the the fact that you

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Speaker 3: won state titles basketball football, right.

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Speaker 4: There in the intro.

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Speaker 3: I read a note and I got to make sure

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Speaker 3: it's it's true, because I didn't read it totally sourced.

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Speaker 3: Did you graduate your high school in a class of

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Speaker 3: eleven people?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Eleven people, yep, And eight man football, right.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, were you top ten in the class thousand valedictorians?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have been top ten for sure. Yeah

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Speaker 3: Now that's such a I imagine that's got to be

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Speaker 3: a bit of a culture shock, right, Like you you

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Speaker 3: go from eleven person graduating class eight man football walking

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Speaker 3: on at Boise State to the Dallas Cowboys, which are

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Speaker 3: the show in professional sports in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 3: Talk about I guess just that that trajectory of your

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, really I didn't have any d one offers

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Speaker 6: like every kid's dream, every boys dream in Idaho when

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Speaker 6: it just made the story that much better. And honestly,

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Speaker 5: In just fine, Wow, big were you?

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Speaker 6: I went in When I got in at Boise my

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Speaker 6: I was a basketball player like I was. I was

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Speaker 3: Not just a basketball player, you were also starting quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: He push. Yeah, no, no, not to push. This was

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Speaker 4: all just this was all just that, this was Vick stuff.

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Speaker 6: I still wish to this day that Boise would have

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Speaker 6: let me at least try quarterback. Try, Like they were

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Speaker 6: they were like, no, you're gonna be a linebacker. And

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Speaker 6: I was like better at quarterback. No, they were like,

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Speaker 4: But how different was the game?

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Speaker 3: I guess studying the game or understanding the game going

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Speaker 3: eleven eleven, Like, how much of a transition is that

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Speaker 6: Huge transition, because I mean in eight man I was

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Speaker 6: So like that was all so much for me right

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Speaker 7: Well, I have a Boise question, but it may not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so is it really a myth? Or is this really?

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Speaker 7: Did birds like fly into the field blue field?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry I have to ask.

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Speaker 6: No, they we had geese on our field a lot.

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Speaker 6: But I don't, you know, maybe it's happened before.

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Speaker 7: But I think you did tell me though that about

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if they have to pay for it,

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Speaker 3: It about Boise that I mean, obviously it was a

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's the culture at Boise. It's it's what

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Speaker 4: How different was you talked about?

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Speaker 3: It's a culture shot going from eight man up to

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Speaker 3: had Yeap, Was it a similar shot going from all right,

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Speaker 3: we go eight man football one year, starting to Boise.

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Speaker 3: Now we're in the NFL and that and now it's

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Speaker 3: going to But you had a very impressive rookie year

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people are like, it looks like

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Speaker 3: a six year veteran out here. Was that an easier

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Speaker 6: Was yeah, really, yep, absolutely, I'll say that with full confidence.

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Speaker 6: Like I remember coming in here, I knew, like with

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Speaker 3: Pro Layton vander esh so uh Laighton. We were getting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, we know the Cowboys have had

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Speaker 6: Okay, so well, me, as a rookie, I didn't realize

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Speaker 8: The thing that is you when you as a coach,

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Speaker 8: four games, you're gonna start seeing the standard.

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Speaker 3: I remember it was you guys lost that game to Tennessee,

442
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 3: the first one that the mark was back. It was

443
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 3: the fallowing week. You were on the road in Philly.

444
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: Uh and it was a it was late as twenty

445
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 3: seven to twenty game. There was this big third and

446
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: two and there was a it was like a flare

447
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 3: to Corey Clement, there was a freak flare screen and

448
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: it was I think it was I think it was

449
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 3: Brandon Brooks was the playside garden. He's trying to get

450
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: into a spot and you see it and just like

451
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 3: I could see kind of peek back at Kelsey and

452
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 3: Broke and.

453
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: You just charged front the box. Yeah.

454
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 6: I was like I was the block.

455
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 3: And they gave a massive play. And that's that's the

456
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: thing that it feels like this team. And that was

457
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 3: a huge moment when that when you guys won that

458
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 3: game in Philly, it felt like, Okay.

459
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're good.

460
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

461
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: The tackles did you get?

462
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 7: Like was that about when I think that was thirteen?

463
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: Was it thirteen? I was thirteen? And an intercept was

464
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 4: thirteen interception?

465
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

466
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 4: Thirteen interception was like first you.

467
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Speaker 7: Got one in Atlanta, like the next game next week too,

468
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 7: which I still don't know how you caught that ball,

469
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 7: Like I almost.

470
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 6: Dropped it almost remember my pinkies.

471
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 7: I was like, wait, what happened? And you're running with

472
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 7: the football? You know when you boise it's funny. It's

473
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 7: like we were like trying to find photos. Oh, we

474
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 7: just drafted him. We got to find all these photos.

475
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 7: I found six photos of you with the football and

476
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 7: I'm like, wait, did he play running back? No, just linebacker.

477
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 7: But you hit the ball a lot, so I was like,

478
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 7: you know that's the guy I want.

479
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: Well, and that was the It felt like there were

480
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: a couple of different New Orleans was a big game

481
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: for you guys that year. There was the the other

482
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: Philly game where Dak and a Mauri were just on

483
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: fire with each other in the fourth quarter and overtime.

484
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: That was such a big game.

485
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 3: But it felt like that moment in that game that

486
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: Corey clevit stop felt like, Okay, this is this is

487
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: a this is a team that might be able to

488
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 3: do something you can get to stop.

489
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 4: You guys end up putting that game. When you talk.

490
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: About guys seeing things the right way, getting guys lined

491
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 3: up and things like that. Like that felt like an

492
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: example of you see it, you react you How valuable

493
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: is that now to have a guy like Logan Wilson,

494
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: who you know plays at a high IQ level and

495
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 3: can see some of those things, and maybe even if

496
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: athleticism slipped a little bit for him in the last

497
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: couple of years, the advantage of seeing some thing quickly

498
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 3: enough can kind of curb some of that, you know, losing.

499
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: A absolutely I mean prepared.

500
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Speaker 6: I mean it's your instincts got to take over at

501
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 6: a certain point too, because you can't play robotic as

502
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 6: a as a football player. You absolutely cannot do that.

503
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 6: And that's the worst thing I see with these young

504
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 6: guys that come in from college. Sorry, I might get

505
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 6: off a topic for just a second. Please please go

506
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 6: these guys that come in from college there. This is

507
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 6: something I've thought about so much over the last six months.

508
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 6: Is because I watched the young linebackers play all the time.

509
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 6: And we've been young at linebacker for quite a while,

510
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 6: but even when I was there. But when these guys

511
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 6: are coming out of college, they're playing at the top

512
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 6: of the game. They're the dudes of their team and

513
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 6: everything they're playing like full of juice everything, like they're

514
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 6: playing good football, and then you bring them here or

515
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 6: you put them in the NFL, and then sometimes I

516
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 6: don't know if it's if it's a culture shock or

517
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 6: some sort of coaching or what it is, but a

518
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 6: lot of these young guys they get like they start

519
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 6: playing robotic And that was my biggest pet peeve, and

520
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 6: it was like, dude, you got to let these guys

521
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 6: be who they are. I mean, you got to let

522
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 6: these guys play to their style and what they were

523
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 6: coming out of college for and translating into it now.

524
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 6: I know, I know it's I know it's a lot

525
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 6: of big responsibility to play to come in the NFL

526
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 6: and play linebacker, but I'm telling you, these guys are

527
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 6: going to play better if you let him play the

528
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 6: way they played in college. Like they're going to play faster,

529
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 6: they're gonna play, they're going to cruise. And so if

530
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 6: you can have a guy on defense linebacker specifically, or

531
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Speaker 6: even a safety that can communicate the plays and let

532
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 6: these young guys go ball and fly that you're good.

533
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 6: That was like my that was my favorite thing about

534
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 6: my last year playing here before I got hurt was dude,

535
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 6: I had to tell everybody. I was like, dude, just

536
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 6: let the guys go play. If I had to tell

537
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 6: them what to do in the middle of the play,

538
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 6: it's gonna make me play better too, because I know

539
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 6: exactly what he's doing. I know what he should be seeing,

540
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 6: and I'm seeing it as well. Like it made me

541
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 6: play faster telling him exactly what he had to do. Yeah,

542
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 6: you might not have You shouldn't have to do that

543
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 6: in every situation, but there's certain situations where it makes

544
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 6: you hone in on your senses even more. When you're like, dude,

545
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 6: like line up here, do this, do that, like you're

546
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 6: freaking dolls. Everybody's down exactly.

547
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: And add on to that, you know the formations. Ken

548
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 5: Norton was that guy for us. Man, he studied. He

549
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 5: he never stopped talking. You never stopped no, brother, let

550
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 5: me say something, Wilson. How long has he been in

551
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 5: the league?

552
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: Logan Wilson's about five years now.

553
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Speaker 8: His skill set is still premium. His skills set is premium.

554
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 8: This kid got caught up in a political thing over there.

555
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 5: This kid can play. This kid can play.

556
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 8: Let's let's give him three or four weeks Let's watch

557
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 8: him play before we make before we say what, No,

558
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 8: let's watch him play, babe.

559
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 5: Because I'm to tell you something.

560
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Speaker 8: When you get a when you get a mic linebacker

561
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Speaker 8: or any linebacker that knows what to do.

562
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Speaker 5: He started hollering out to them formations.

563
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Speaker 8: He go to lining up his will, he go to

564
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 8: line up his say no, no, he goes snapping that

565
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 8: tackle on that real rup. Move over, boy, let's go.

566
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 8: He just get everybody real bro. It makes you go

567
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 8: to work.

568
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Speaker 3: That's There was a time or one of the most

569
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 3: common stats we'd hear. I'm sure Nick remembers it. It

570
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 3: was something along the lines of when Shawn Lee's missing

571
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: from the lineup, the Cowboys are one in twelve or

572
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 3: something like that. I mean, it was just a night

573
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: and day difference.

574
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 5: Uh.

575
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: And that was largely I think before you got here

576
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: and that Jalen started playing. But when Shawn Lee was

577
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 3: out of the lineup from like twenty four twenty fourteen

578
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: to twenty seventeen, there would be issues there. Is that

579
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: why you think a lot of those issues probably existed

580
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: because Sean was good at communicating, telling them like, is

581
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: that the value of what one guy who sees the.

582
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: Game really well can do?

583
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 6: You're the quarterback of the defense, like you're lining everybody up.

584
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 6: You should be telling guys what to do as a linebacker.

585
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: Is that one of the things that you know, we

586
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: talked about Overshown coming back off the knee, and like,

587
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: well there may be some rust there, adding Logan Wilson,

588
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: if you've had a guy like de Marvin Overshown two

589
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: back to this even while he's knocking off that Russ, potentially,

590
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: is that gonna be a big value you think of

591
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: just well, overshow's gonna be able to get guys into

592
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: play with.

593
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 6: Those two guys? They're good and Overshow Demo? This is

594
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 6: this be Demo's defense. This is going to be Demo's defense.

595
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 6: I don't care about his freaking injuries or whatever. Obviously

596
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 6: he's got to come back and prove that he's still

597
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 6: got it and everything. But I have complete and total

598
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 6: faith that he's still that guy.

599
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: That's why you have Wilson.

600
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 6: Yep. So Demo can run, but Demo demanding.

601
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 4: Demo.

602
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 6: Demo is demanding, and he's confident in his calls and

603
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 6: everything too. Yes, I love the kid to death. And

604
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 6: so having those two guys like that's like having a

605
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 6: one to two punch like that at linebacker with the

606
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 6: rawness that Demo still has. Dude, the sky's the limit

607
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 6: for him.

608
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 8: He's the first linebacker a guy that I know that

609
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 8: never he never like he had an injury. Yep, they

610
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 8: had to hold him back. Even last year when he

611
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 8: they had to hold him back in Prance. I'm like,

612
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 8: and I want to more day, ask how you feel like, man,

613
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 8: coach need to let me get on this field.

614
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, this dude just had a major.

615
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: I remember I had asked somebody last year who had

616
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: stood out out during the off season and one of

617
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: the coaches said it's Demo And I was like, even

618
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: ahith the rehab's They're like, he got into this.

619
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: And most guys who.

620
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: Get an injury like that will mope or they'll get

621
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: down and just that they feel bad about themselves, which

622
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: is natural. They get isolated from the team. He goes uh.

623
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: David Durden and John Stevens were rehaving knee injuries at

624
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: the same time, and Demo was on top of them like,

625
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: we're not gonna pout. This is this is our position group,

626
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: this is our work group. Here, we're gonna work like

627
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: they work, and and really took charge and got close

628
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: with those guys, And that definitely feels like a leadership

629
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: style and a communication style like you talked about that

630
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: they've probably really missed so far early.

631
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: In this season.

632
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And then you pair that with his energy and

633
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 6: his explosivenesss like, that's dude, I wish all the time

634
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 6: that I got the chance to play a full season

635
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 6: with Demo.

636
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 5: Wow.

637
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 6: Every time I watched that kid play football, I'm like,

638
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 6: and I tell my wife even like, even even when

639
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 6: so my last year when I have I got hurt

640
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 6: Game five when Demo was a rookie that year and

641
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 6: he tours a cl in the first preseason game in Seattle,

642
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 6: Like I was heartbroken because I didn't get I wasn't

643
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 6: gonna get the chance to play with this kid, and

644
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 6: I don't know, I didn't know how long my career

645
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 6: was gonna last. Like I'm freaking any game could be

646
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 6: my last game and it was, and so like that

647
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 6: was that was the thing about it. But I think

648
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 6: about all the time, I'm like, dude, I wish I

649
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 6: could have freaking played a full season with you or

650
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 6: even a few games, just to like get the feel

651
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 6: of playing next to somebody like that again, because I

652
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 6: hadn't had that in a while.

653
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 4: That is, you thought about coaching.

654
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 7: Sorry, no, go ahead, I mean yeah, because you can

655
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 7: just you can kind of. I mean, I know, you know,

656
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 7: especially a smart football player is to be one that

657
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 7: could coach. I think Sean Lee could could be if

658
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 7: he wanted to. It's a lot of commitment, a lot

659
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 7: of hours. I get all that too, but I feel

660
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 7: like you have that passion of the game and you

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Speaker 7: kind of know. I didn't know if that's something you've

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Speaker 7: ever thought about.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I always yeah all the time. And like with

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Speaker 6: the young guys there, like I still have a relationship

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Speaker 6: with a lot of them because in my my age

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Speaker 6: of my career, like I was still fairly young, but

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Speaker 6: I was the oldest guy in our room by a lot,

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Speaker 6: like being year six and seven. It was like, these

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Speaker 6: guys are all I'm playing with first second year guys,

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Speaker 6: and so getting to see them come in, I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 6: you're good. I got you. You line up and play

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Speaker 6: football the way you know how to play football. You

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Speaker 6: could tell from my last year and a half there

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Speaker 6: when I was playing next to a younger guy after

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Speaker 6: I had stated that, and I had great communication with DQ,

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Speaker 6: great communication with our linebacker coach Scotti. Like those young

677
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 6: guys freaking played better, like they were playing like it

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Speaker 6: was an uphill trend. And so we just have to

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Speaker 6: have a culture like that. You got to have a

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Speaker 6: young guy. You gotta have somebody in the linebacker room,

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Speaker 6: especially being the quarterback of the defense, that can make

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Speaker 6: people feel comfortable and confident in you that you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm like, he's gonna get everybody lined up and we're good.

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Speaker 4: That is the voice of Layton Vader.

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Speaker 3: Let's take our second break here on the SLBC Cowboys

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Speaker 3: cross sog. When we come back, a lot of talk

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Speaker 3: about communication right there. Let's talk about good communication, how

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Speaker 3: to improve some of that and and how the new

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Speaker 3: linebackers and Williams may be able to help the.

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Speaker 3: and six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton is here as always,

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Speaker 3: All Pro Layton, Vander esh Layton. Appreciate you for joining

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Speaker 3: us here. It's been a good conversation so far. You've

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Speaker 3: talked about a couple of different things that I'm curious

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Speaker 3: how you see it a flying to today. So let's

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Speaker 3: start with the communication aspect of it. Yep, that has

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Speaker 3: been the biggest part that we've heard. Shoddy continue to

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Speaker 3: hammer home of communication.

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Speaker 4: Communication.

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Speaker 3: If that's right, the defense would be in a lot

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Speaker 3: better position. I remember we asked him on the fan

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Speaker 3: when he came on, said explain what that means for.

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Speaker 4: Fans who don't understand what communication means.

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Speaker 3: If he said okay, because it's not like you're breaking

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Speaker 3: the huddle and you're going, all right, guys, cover three

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Speaker 3: and you step out there and somebody goes, oh, I

721
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: thought we were in cover two. He said, no, it's

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Speaker 3: when we get out there went from breaking the huddle

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Speaker 3: to the snap of the ball. The shifts that the

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Speaker 3: offense makes or does that changes your responsibility, and not

725
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Speaker 3: everybody gets on board. Talk about how different a play

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Speaker 3: call can be, and how different everybody's responsibilities can be

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Speaker 3: with just a simple shift or emotion or something else,

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Speaker 3: and how do you clean up some of that communication

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Speaker 3: so everybody's on the same page.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, I don't know exactly what the playbook is now,

731
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Speaker 6: but depending on a certain shift, they can change the

732
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Speaker 6: complete and total play call, like you can have a

733
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Speaker 6: dual play like you can. If they come out in this,

734
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 6: it's covered two. If they come out and this is

735
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 6: cover three. If it changes here, it changes. So I

736
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Speaker 6: don't know exactly what they're doing. I don't know exactly

737
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Speaker 6: what the play book is in certain situations, but I

738
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Speaker 6: know that there's certain adjustments that the offense does that

739
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 6: they're trying to get you in because they see stuff

740
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Speaker 6: on film and if the defense isn't lined up right

741
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 6: or if they don't make the right adjustment to it,

742
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Speaker 6: half the defense could be playing something and half the

743
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 6: defense could be playing something else. And so if you

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Speaker 6: don't have, if you don't have the guys that can

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Speaker 6: communicate that confidently, whether they're prepared or not, yeah, you're

746
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Speaker 6: hung out to drive.

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Speaker 4: We see it a lot.

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Speaker 7: You know, obviously they lose a game on Sunday, or

749
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 7: they lose it on Monday night. But does it feel

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Speaker 7: like sometimes the teams can can really lose a game

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Speaker 7: on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday by not preparing that way.

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Speaker 6: But Yep, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not.

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Speaker 7: Putting pinpoint in this team, but it just seems like

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Speaker 7: from the preparation standpoint that that's where they're lacking.

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Speaker 6: Dude. And absolutely, you're one hundred percent right. And because

757
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 6: the reason I'm saying this is because when I was

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00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 6: playing and when DQ was our even with Marinelli and DQ,

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Speaker 6: I was at a different stage in my career. When

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Speaker 6: I was with another Marinelli, I was the first three

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Speaker 6: years of my career, but with DQ, it was like

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Speaker 6: I had a gap in there with with Nolan and

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Speaker 6: then I had three with DQ and so when I

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Speaker 6: would come into the facility early in the early in

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Speaker 6: the week, like I was almost taking it upon myself.

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Speaker 6: Like the way I looked at it was, I'm going

767
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Speaker 6: to prepare and look at these plays and come in

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Speaker 6: here and get all these plays written down and do

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Speaker 6: all this for the for the game plan for the

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Speaker 6: first day ahead or first two days ahead of practice,

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Speaker 6: so that when we come out here, like I can

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Speaker 6: talk to the guys on defense and get them lined up,

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Speaker 6: talk to the safeties, and even if it's the first

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00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 6: time they've heard it, I can tell them exactly what

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Speaker 6: it is. So it gives us a jump. And as

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Speaker 6: a linebacker and as the quarterback, you should be doing that,

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Speaker 6: is what I'm do. You fault what I'm saying, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: so you gain. So you gain there, You gain there

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Speaker 6: because you will not have as many mistakes in practice

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00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 6: that you have to go correct. If you have a

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Speaker 6: guy that comes in and does that.

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Speaker 4: Did Sean do that?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely? I learned it from him. I learned how to

784
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 6: prepare the right way from Sean, And so that carried

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Speaker 6: all right, dude, because what.

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Speaker 5: He's saying, the bottom line is this right here.

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Speaker 8: It ain't a lot of the times it's not your

788
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 8: physical skills set. Coaches fear the blown play because it

789
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 8: turns into fifteen to twenty yards our touch.

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Speaker 5: Noow and continue to speak, young man. I'm loving it. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And so in the middle of practice, yeah, we

792
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Speaker 6: might if I didn't do that, I feel like, or

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Speaker 6: if certain guys didn't do that, Sean, I'm not just

794
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Speaker 6: I'm not just tooting my own horn. I'm just I'm

795
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Speaker 6: just speaking at how I saw and how my experience

796
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Speaker 6: was in my career. Because I knew the weeks where

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Speaker 6: we had freaking terrible weeks of practice and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: I didn't prepared is good that week. I would just

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Speaker 6: take it upon myself and I'd be like, I blame

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Speaker 6: myself more than I would blame anybody else, because I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 6: in a certain play, specifically in practice, I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 6: if I could have just communicated better, even if they

803
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 6: didn't know what was coming, at least we're lining up

804
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 6: on the same page. I can give them a heads up, like, Yo,

805
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Speaker 6: this is coming, or this is what the play call

806
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 6: adjustment is going to be. If there's two, three, four

807
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Speaker 6: adjustments in a play with the front with the coverage

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Speaker 6: behind me. Just having the communication with the coaches prior

809
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Speaker 6: to practice a day ahead is going to get everybody

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Speaker 6: else lined up that much faster, that much better in

811
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Speaker 6: practice the next day, and so not having as many

812
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Speaker 6: mistakes in practice that week because the guys have prepared

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Speaker 6: is going to lead into the game.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about this a little bit over the last

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks, but you know, they're when a play

816
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Speaker 3: is busted or when you see just a completely blown

817
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Speaker 3: coverage it looks like and somebody scorestep, which happened a

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Speaker 3: few times to the Cowboys this year. In your experience

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Speaker 3: of a football field happened on defenses that you were on.

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Speaker 3: How frequently was that just a mental labs. How frequent

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Speaker 3: was that poor communication? And then how frequently was it

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Speaker 3: something Nate you and I were talking about recently that

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Speaker 3: Richard Sherman had said that sometimes offensive coordinators are so

824
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: good or they knew your tendency so much, they can

825
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: literally break your rules and everybody can do their job,

826
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: but they know how to break your rules and find

827
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Speaker 3: an open spot for what looks like a bus. How

828
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Speaker 3: often in your experience did you see busted plays came

829
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Speaker 3: down to communication versus some of those other things.

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Speaker 6: Uh, just communication, get everybody line up, because we rarely

831
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 6: had a wide open receiver run for you, like when

832
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Speaker 6: I was on defense, Like I I can't think specific

833
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 6: time in my career and even go back even when

834
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Speaker 6: Sean when when Seawan was here, like we didn't have

835
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Speaker 6: a lot of freaking just busted coverages. We didn't maybe

836
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 6: my third year, we might have had a couple a

837
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 6: couple actual routes that were being schemed again us that

838
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 6: we actually had to change our rules for because everybody

839
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 6: had learned our system and how we were covering it

840
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 6: and Cover three and so team so offenses were like

841
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 6: trying to they were trying to fudge things to make

842
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 6: us actually prepare for them. So yeah, we had to

843
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 6: change a couple of our specific rules within our plays

844
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Speaker 6: to do that. But other than that, dude, it's communication, Nate.

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Speaker 8: You go ahead, Nate. This is what bothers me is.

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Speaker 8: And I'm gonna ask this question. Did y'all ever play

847
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 8: Cover two? Did y'all ever play Cover three?

848
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Speaker 5: Y'all? Which just was man?

849
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Speaker 6: We played No, we played we played all. We played man,

850
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 6: We played cover two, Cover three. We made our cover

851
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 6: threes look like Cover two. We made our cover twos

852
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 6: look like Cover three. We played quarters a lot. We

853
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 6: could make every single one of those plays. We can

854
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 6: make take man out of it, man's man whatever. Yeah,

855
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 6: but we can make freaking cover two look like man.

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Speaker 4: So this season we could do.

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Speaker 7: This season's got frustrating for you to watch. I mean,

858
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 7: like you, I heard you say we gow was your

859
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 7: team always watching the games? Yep, this season for you

860
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 7: all the stuff you're saying, because it's frustrating to kind

861
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 7: of hear what it was. And I bet you this

862
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 7: has been a tough season just for you to go.

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Speaker 4: You can see this.

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Speaker 6: Stuff for sure. And I'm saying it's starts with the linebackers.

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Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say, yeah. And so if if those

866
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Speaker 6: guys aren't communicating and those guys can't get out there

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Speaker 6: and get everybody lined up, like I know, there might

868
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Speaker 6: be some situations where you're not in the best position,

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Speaker 6: it might not be the best play call. But you

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Speaker 6: know what gets over that everybody's on the same page.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you you know when we talk about Quentinn

872
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Speaker 3: Williams coming in here and Logan Wilson come in here,

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Speaker 3: both guys who were captains at their previous teams. Kenny

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Speaker 3: Clark coming in here as a previous captain late in

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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 4: Is there do you think there would be any hesitancy?

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Speaker 3: Obviously you're never in this position, but you may have

878
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: seen it with acquisitions like Michael Bennett or some other

879
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: guys during your career. Is there any sort of hesitancy

880
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: of like, well, let me build up or you know,

881
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: some rapport here before I start really trying to to

882
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: take accountability. Or would you say no, Logan Wilson, You've

883
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: been brought in here to do a job, take command

884
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: and and be that guy.

885
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Speaker 6: I would say, where the position of the defense is?

886
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 6: This is this is the deal to the freaking blank slate.

887
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 6: At this point, it is a complete blank slate.

888
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: Thank you, you're preaching and they sold us.

889
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 8: This is what I can tell everybody is when I

890
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 8: looked at ESPN dot com, they.

891
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 5: Had Quinny William and Wilson starting.

892
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 8: We got a whole week for this kid to absorb

893
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 8: his playbook.

894
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: He has to make the bigger job. Wilson has the

895
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 5: bigger job.

896
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 8: We can just hey, Quinny, line up at the three

897
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 8: technique rush the passer, say maintain a gap, but this

898
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 8: guy gonna line everybody up. That was Ken Norton for us,

899
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 8: and then the secondary that was Darren Wilson.

900
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: Darren Wilson. When you have two guys.

901
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Speaker 8: Out there just hollering and making the adjustments and tell

902
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 8: and freeing up, like you say, freeing up guys to

903
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 8: be able to play once you get into your position.

904
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Speaker 8: You know, you know your responsibilities, but it's getting in

905
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Speaker 8: your position and I'm excited.

906
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Speaker 5: Give them through four weeks. Yeah, it made that look

907
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 5: good at first. We give them through four weeks.

908
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 6: And with these two Russian cover, Russian cover have to

909
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 6: work together, they have to complement each other. Yes, like

910
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 6: there is covered sacks, there is a there is a

911
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 6: way that the secondary can cover so good that it

912
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 6: gives the second or the front time to get there

913
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 6: and get the sack right. And then there's also times

914
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 6: where the front saves the coverage because they get their

915
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 6: self ass So like we don't have that right now.

916
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Speaker 4: Did you? Did you like the Mica trade?

917
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Speaker 7: I mean we haven't really talked about that, but but

918
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 7: I mean, and that was here here he is this

919
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 7: dynamic player and they made the trade.

920
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 4: Did you what was your initial thought on.

921
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 6: That I'm still digesting it to be honest with you,

922
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Speaker 6: and we'll see in the next couple of weeks.

923
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Speaker 3: Let's take our final break and when we come back,

924
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: we'll talk a little bit more with Leyton vander USh

925
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 3: about how the Cowboys can progress moving forward and uh,

926
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Speaker 3: if the moves mader enough to make this team a contender,

927
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Speaker 3: that's when we come back here next on the SLGBC

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys Club at the Star and Frisco for the

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Speaker 3: s WBC Cowboys Crosstalk. We're coming to you live on

939
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Speaker 3: other associated social media platforms every Wednesday throughout the NFL season.

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Speaker 3: I'm Bobby Belt from One through the Fan. We've got

942
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Speaker 3: Nick I am I am Dave. We've got Nick Heatman

943
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: from Dallas Cowboys dot com. We've got the three time

944
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl champs, six time Pro Bowler and former Florida

945
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Speaker 3: A and M kicker. Yeah, he was a kicker. We we

946
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Speaker 3: covered that a couple weeks ago. He had to kick

947
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Speaker 3: for his school.

948
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Speaker 4: A little bit.

949
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Speaker 5: All right, good good?

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Speaker 4: He played garden.

951
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Speaker 3: They and our guests and our Cowboy's alumni is Leighton

952
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 3: vander ash So you know, I want to turn this

953
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: over really quickly to to Nate Newton. Nate, you seem

954
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 3: to be loving so much of what Layton's saying tonight.

955
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Speaker 3: Is there anything you'd like to get Layton's perspective on

956
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 3: for the second half of the season coming out?

957
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 5: Yes? How do you break a young horse?

958
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

959
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 5: There's a young stalling that's strong.

960
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: An analogy for football.

961
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Speaker 7: You're really asking this, right, Yeah?

962
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 6: How do I you have football?

963
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: No?

964
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 4: No, you're not asking that right.

965
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 8: You're you have you ever raised a colt from a

966
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 8: you know, a foll of colt unto and broke a

967
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 8: young stallion to ride?

968
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Speaker 6: You should ask my wife that, all right?

969
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 5: Now?

970
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: The football version.

971
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Speaker 8: The question I really have, man, is It's been a

972
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 8: pleasure talking to you, and and and I'm always going

973
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 8: at Bobby about players and their responsibilities.

974
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Speaker 5: And I'm I'm quite sure we understand.

975
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Speaker 8: You took a lot on your shoulders, as Sean Lee did,

976
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 8: as Ken Norman did, as as Darren Woolson did.

977
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Speaker 5: And I'm hoping that the.

978
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Speaker 8: Guy Wilson you take a lot of these shoulders and

979
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 8: help these young guys.

980
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 6: Man, I think that's his I think that's his lifeline

981
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 6: right now to make an instant impact. It might be

982
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 6: it might be hard to do it right out the gates, obviously,

983
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 6: because you're getting traded in the middle season. I can't

984
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 6: imagine me he traded the middle season, have to going

985
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 6: and learn a whole new system. But Fluis needs to

986
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 6: take this opportunity to make things simple for him, for

987
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 6: both for Quinn and Logan. But you got a guy

988
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Speaker 6: like Logan, like give him what's he give him what

989
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 6: he needs, and then you're gonna know like, Okay, he's

990
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 6: good to go, like he's he's ready for it all.

991
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Speaker 7: Now, how do you make it simple for a coach

992
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 7: to make it simple for a player to figure it out,

993
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 7: to understand the scheme, but not simple for the offensive

994
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 7: coordinator says, I know exactly what they're doing. Is is

995
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 7: that kind of the tough balance for Coch.

996
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 6: Well, you got to know, yes for sure, but you

997
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 6: also got to know what you're good at, Like you

998
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 6: really got to know what you're good at. You have

999
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 6: to have an identity and so that's another just another

1000
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Speaker 6: topic we talked about, is our identity on defense. Yeah,

1001
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 6: it's like, dude, so you got to have something that

1002
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 6: you can you got to have a corner you can

1003
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Speaker 6: always go to on defense that you're like, Okay, I'm

1004
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 6: completely comfortable and I'm completely confident here. You got to

1005
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 6: give that to these guys first and let them see

1006
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 6: how they handle it. I mean, you got to give them.

1007
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 6: You got to give them your your bread butter.

1008
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Speaker 3: I remember that. I remember twenty twenty one. You guys were.

1009
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: You guys were twelve and five that season. But I

1010
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 3: remember all the games that you guys lost about like

1011
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 3: Kansas City Raiders, a couple of those different games that year.

1012
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 3: I remember it was usually you and Zach Martin after

1013
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: the game, both would you have the same common criticism

1014
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 3: of why you guys have lost the game?

1015
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Speaker 4: You were?

1016
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 3: You guys were talking about physicality. Somebody came in here

1017
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: and they punched us in the mouth.

1018
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: Yea, they hit it.

1019
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: They played two physical We just didn't match physicality. And

1020
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: you know, how do you think these acquisitions may help?

1021
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: Because that's something Shot they talked about in recent weeks.

1022
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: He doesn't feel like they've played physical enough. How do

1023
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 3: you think this helps physicality? And how much can you

1024
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: coach up physicality or get physicality out of somebody versus

1025
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: it just being innate in them and having to acquire

1026
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 3: players who have it.

1027
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 6: I mean, at this level, you got it or you

1028
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 6: don't got it. You ain't gonna teach a grown man

1029
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 6: to all of a sudden be physical like you either

1030
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 6: draft them because they have it in them and it

1031
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 6: was born in them as a football player, or they

1032
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 6: don't got it.

1033
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 3: It's physicality more than just hitting the weight room and

1034
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 3: being willing to hit, Like what all goes into that percent?

1035
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

1036
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 6: Absolutely, But there was also I mean I'm not gonna

1037
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Speaker 6: lie like, there was weeks where I watched myself up film.

1038
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 6: I'm like, dude, what was I doing? Like throw my

1039
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 6: freaking hands on this guy? And then in practice I

1040
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 6: took that one thing I take one or two things

1041
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 6: out of every game where I was like embarrassed in myself,

1042
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 6: but no matter how good I played, and I was like, Okay,

1043
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 6: put this in my notes. This is what I'm going

1044
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 6: to focus on every single rep in practice, an individual,

1045
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 6: in team drills, no matter what, even in special teams

1046
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 6: when we didn't play special teams, when we did the

1047
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 6: drills and stuff in it. And so there were certain

1048
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 6: weeks where I'm like, dude, I played so soft this week.

1049
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 6: The next week, you know what, I did the hardest

1050
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 6: I did possible in practice the whole next week, even

1051
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 6: in no pads and shells and in jerseys, and guys

1052
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 6: would get mad at me for it. If I didn't

1053
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 6: throw my hands hard enough, I'm doing it, you know,

1054
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 6: just to get it ingrained in my mind.

1055
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Speaker 7: Again, I'm kind of careful to speak for the entire

1056
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 7: Cowboys nation here, but I will and this one. Yeah,

1057
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 7: you've been missed big time, big time, and this team,

1058
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 7: this organization, that mentality, because I think one out of

1059
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 7: ten your love for football is like a fourteen or fifteen.

1060
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Speaker 7: And I don't think there's people on this team that

1061
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 7: I don't think that's even cool. I think their love

1062
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 7: for football. They like to they like what football gives them.

1063
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 7: They don't necessarily love what to be a great football player.

1064
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 7: And I think you and that mentality is what has

1065
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 7: definitely been lacking for this thing.

1066
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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I appreciate it very much.

1067
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 4: I know you can't say that.

1068
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 5: But second of all, with you, I'm excited about you.

1069
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 5: Been excited, bro, I'm.

1070
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 4: Just saying everything you're saying.

1071
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Speaker 7: You know, I've been on the team charters when you

1072
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 7: have to and you you know, yeah, And it's like

1073
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 7: you hear in the background all to carry on and

1074
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 7: you're like, wait, did they win?

1075
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 4: Like, no, they did not win.

1076
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Speaker 7: And I bet you there's there's always a handful of

1077
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 7: people that are probably just like god, what are we doing?

1078
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 7: And I'm I'm pretty sure you were. You were one

1079
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 7: of those because Sean was that way. You guys are

1080
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 7: pretty much clones to me.

1081
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 5: Yep.

1082
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Speaker 6: And even like I said, you're that way, but you're

1083
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 6: that way with yourself too, Like first and foremost as

1084
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 6: a linebacker, like, dude, I'm harder. I was harder on

1085
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 6: myself than anybody else was ever. Like yeah, you read

1086
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 6: comments on freaking social media or whatever, like oh, this

1087
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 6: guy sucks or he's freaking washed, or he's so soft whatever,

1088
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 6: like yeah, whatever, like you you see that. I don't care,

1089
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 6: but I will tell you I'm harder on myself than

1090
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 6: that comment and that guy. So it's just that's what

1091
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 6: you're gonna get out of. Get out of the guys

1092
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 6: like Sean, guys that I play. Can we just dominate?

1093
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 6: Can we throw our hands?

1094
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 4: I'd love to you.

1095
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: I mean we are we are bound by the clock,

1096
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: I believe, but like we need to talk to Allison.

1097
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: Get Allison, so you get us a second hour.

1098
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 4: Here soo man, brother, we're here in the last thirty

1099
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: seconds late. Thank you so much for the treat.

1100
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people really enjoyed this

1101
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: and they can't wait to see you get into coaching

1102
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 3: hopefully because I think I think that's what they look

1103
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: I know, Nate, I can't wait to be Howling againside

1104
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: for Leighton vander Esh, Nate Newton.

1105
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 4: Nikki and I'm bother.

1106
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: We will talk to you guys again next week on

1107
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 3: the s WBC Cowboys Cross Talks